The first launch of the Brahmos rocket created by the Russian-Indian company will take place in 2015

Winged test launch aviation Bramos rocket, created at the Russian-Indian enterprise, will be produced in early 2015 from the standard carrier of the Su-30MKI fighter. About it RIA News said the director of the company "Bramos Aerospace" Sudhir Mishra.

The rocket itself is already ready for use, but the work on fine-tuning the fighter under it has not yet been completed.

“This year we are completing assembly work on the Su-30MKI, and at the beginning of 2015, the whole complex will be ready for launch of the rocket”- said Mishra.

He noted that "the adoption of the Su-30MKI complex plus the Brahmos missile into service with the Indian Air Force will take place in the 2016 year according to the contract."

In addition, the joint venture began to develop another cruise missile "Bramos mini". Its first launch is scheduled for 2017.

NPO "Mashinostroenie" and the Research Center of the Ministry of Defense of India DRDA began work, and during the 3 years the tests will begin with the first launch of this rocket "Said Misra.

Bramos Aerospace products are presented at the Oboronespo-2014 exhibition, currently taking place in Zhukovsky. Russian Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin, who visited the company's stand, said that Bramos was “a vivid example of fruitful Russian-Indian cooperation.” He also said that “Russia is proud that it has partners who possess high-precision shock weapons».

The joint company Brahmos Aerospace was established in 1998. The Russian side, represented by the NPO Mashinostroeniya, owns 49,5% of the company's shares, the remaining 50,5% is owned by the Indian DRDO Research Center.

Comments

[FREGATENKAPITAN]

Something I didn’t understand .... it actually already is in service in India .... we have the medium prepared ..... if that’s what you mean, the author with the headlines should be careful! ... Well, the good news !

[bmv04636]

Worth sea-based and land-based. And this is an air-based missile.

[Lord of the Sith]

Ground based yes there is.

[bmv04636]

India on Wednesday successfully tested the BrahMos cruise missile, which was first launched from the Russian-built frigate Tarkash, a source in the Indian Defense Ministry told RIA Novosti.
"The missile made a maneuver along a predetermined trajectory and successfully hit the target," the source said.
According to him, all three frigates built in Russia under the 2006 contract - Tarkash, Teg and Trikand - will be equipped with BraMos systems. The first two ships have already entered the Indian Navy, the arrival of Trikand from Kaliningrad is expected soon, the source said.

[VAF]

Quote: Sith Lord

Ground based yes there is.

Air (aviation version) based the same .. there is practically!

[Nayhas]

Quote: vaf

Air (aviation version) based the same .. there is practically!

Good afternoon / evening Sergey. Oh, something for a long time they mumble him, and is an air-based option necessary? 2,5 tons is not a joke, how to sit with such a bandura? Well, the Su-30MKI’s ability to detect surface targets at 300 km is doubtful ...

[opus]

Quote: vaf

the same .. almost there!

practically ...
This is Models for testing the aircraft version of the BrahMos rocket
HAL so far only engaged in the modernization of two fighters Su-30MKI from the Indian Air Force

You know the difference between m / s layout and air-based anti-ship missiles ...

while "practically" there is only:

And then ... not very much
Starts from 3-4 surface carriers (if not forgotten), the rest = polygon

[tlauicol]

Since 2002 they promise. The news has already become annual good news. And again they carry it over - how can Indians not hang themselves from such cooperation? And they feel sorry for the time, and invested money, and feel sorry for quitting.
Vikramaditya was also promised to be handed over in 2008, and then the promises became annual. And no one is punished. And this is the country's defense capability!

[Hey]

According to the agreement for the joint development and production of the Brahmos missiles, we must acquire some of them. Based on this, such messages will often slip through, so that there is nothing to be surprised at.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: MUD

According to the agreement for the joint development and production of Brahmos missiles

The thing is different.
India has adopted the BrahMos missile, and we haven’t. We are armed with a more advanced Onyx missile, which was the basis for the export BrahMos. That is, we consider weapons produced jointly with other countries as an export option, but due to joint developments, scientific, technical and military-scientific ties are formed, which is extremely important.
Air launched missiles are ready for testing. Hindus (DRDO and Air Force committees) are forbidden to make any modifications with the Su-30MKI fighter, therefore on January 10 of the 2009 of the year, the 2 of the aircraft was sent to Russia to conduct a suspension training program and launch systems. In May 2010, the 40 fighter modernization program was approved.
The Su-30MKI, in addition to adapting the BrahMos anti-ship missiles, will receive a new on-board computer, radars and electronic combat systems. A pair of Indian aircraft will be modernized in Russia, and starting from 2015, HAL will be engaged in this work under license.
Currently, work is underway to adapt the RCC. It was possible to get a lightweight version of the rocket with a length of 8,3 meters, a diameter of 0,67 meters and a mass of 2550 kg.

[Giant thought]

The cooperation of Russia with India in the production of Bramos rockets sets up positive emotions, because the day is coming when we will all see the practical use of the results of this collaboration.

[armageddon]

The news is certainly kind ... I think something better has been developed for its Air Force !!!

[zennon]

Quote: Armagedon

The news is certainly kind ... I think something better has been developed for its Air Force !!!

P-800 "Onyx":

Take a look here:
http://army.lv/ru/p-800/3065/764

[Basarev]

Gentlemen, I am aware that they are going to make me feel bad, but I’ll still say: are we really taking Indian missiles into service? After all, our X-90 is no worse!

[VAF]

Quote: FREGATENKAPITAN

.. we have a carrier prepared ..

The media is prepared with them!

[vlad-ns]

But in the battle near the town of Debaltseve, DPR, fighters of the Donbass People’s Militia liquidated a war criminal — the commander of the 11th battalion of territorial defense of the Kiev region of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine “Kievan Rus”, Lt. Col. Alexander Gumenyuk and three other punishers. About ten members of the gang are injured.

Information on the liquidation of the leader of the punitive formation by telephone was reported by the battalion officer Valery Shishkin.

"Gumenyuk was the creator of the" Kievan Rus "battalion, the main achievement of which was the shelling of Sloviansk and Kramatorsk from artillery positions on Mount Karachun and the killing of civilians. The punishers, together with their Bandera battalion commander, repeatedly posed against the background of guns and mortars and filmed their attacks on the city of Donbass ".

[igor1981]

As I understand it, this is a joint project. If it is beneficial to both countries, so why not cooperate, especially India is our strategic partner.

[Evilcat]

I think not quite so. Most likely the development is Russian, and the payment is Indian. If I’m not mistaken, this is the brainchild of the NGO Mechanical Engineering of the 80s. It was then called Onyx and declared universal: it was supposed to be placed on submarines, surface ships and boats, aircraft and coastal launchers. I suspect that even then the Americans were in shock. And now, at least indirectly, they have a chance to evaluate it in their own skin.

[Lopatov]

They traditionally have strong programmers. So it is not a fact that only money is from India.

[fox21h]

Quote: Spade

They have traditionally strong programmers ...

Hmm, I would be so categorical, yet we are the strongest and I don’t think that we will trust anyone to do software, especially military.

[Kasym]

Brahmos is the export version of Onyx - Yakhont. Only a range of 300-500 km (the second, probably airborne). The aiming head, in my opinion, is from the Kh-555.
Of interest is Bramos-2 - it seems to be hypersonic. And here it will not do without the Russian Federation.

[APASUS]

Quote: Kasym

Brahmos is the export version of Onyx - Yakhont. Only a range of 300-500 km (the second, probably airborne). The aiming head, in my opinion, is from the Kh-555.
Of interest is Bramos-2 - it seems to be hypersonic. And here it will not do without the Russian Federation.

I would very much like to read the performance characteristics of "Bramos" and compare them with the so-called "mother Onyx" - "Yakhont". As far as I understand, the Indians simply brought to completion the project in which launches from the plane, from the ground and from under the water were provided. Our version is only ground-based.
And of course TTX “Bramos mini”, how mini is it and what is the maxi effect of this?

[Proud.]

Quote: APASUS

I would very much like to read the performance characteristics of "Brahmos" and compare them with the so-called "mother Onyx" - "Yakhont".

There was an article on the site http://topwar.ru/5350-pkr-bramos.html

TTX “BraMos” are generally similar to “Onyx” / “Yakhont”, usually only the following differences appear in the sources:
Maximum speed at an altitude of 14,000 m - 2.5-2.8 M;
The maximum range on the variable profile is 290 km;
The minimum range is 25 km;
Warhead - 200 kg on the land and sea versions, 300 kg on the aviation version; some sources talk about the possibility of using different warheads (except for penetrating - high-explosive fragmentation, cluster, nuclear);
The weight of the aviation version is 2,500 kg; in the future it is planned to reduce it to 2,000 kg.
Well, here's the performance characteristics of "Onyx":
Performance characteristics, firing range, km:
- along a combined path
- low altitude trajectory
300
120
Flight altitude, m:
- on the marching section of the trajectory
- on a low altitude trajectory
- at the target
14000-15000
10-15
5-15
Airspeed:
- at an altitude of 15km
- on a low altitude trajectory
750m / s (2.6M)
2.0M
Rocket length, mm (ship version) 8000
Rocket length, mm (aviation version) 6100
TPK length, mm (aviation version) 8900
Wingspan, mm 1700
Starting weight, kg
- aviation version 2500
- ship version 3000
Weight in TPK, kg 3900
Warhead
Penetrating type
Weight, kg 200-250
Homing head
range of action, km
- target capture angle, hail
-time, min
weight kg
to 80
+/- 45
2
89
Combat readiness of the complex for launching from a cold state of the carrier equipment, min 4
Time of interregional inspections, year 3
Warranty period, year 7
The performance characteristics of "Brahmos-mini" are still unknown.

[voliador]

TPK length, mm (aviation version) 8900

And what TPK can the aviation version have? Moreover, the rocket itself is almost 3 meters longer!

[Proud.]

Quote: voliador

And what TPK can the aviation version have? Moreover, the rocket itself is almost 3 meters longer!

Kasym answered below. Either work is still underway, or created, but only "for SEBE", and the infa is closed. And with the Indians they will sculpt "BraMoS-M (mini)". I quote: "... On the Su-30MKI fighter in the future three such missiles can be installed at once ... The BrahMos missile is very good, but because of its large size, we can put it in few places. For example, the Su-30MKI is the only aircraft on which we could install it, and then, only in a single copy. And "BraMos-M" we can install on the Su-30MKI in the amount of three. On the plane of the fifth generation, we can supply two ... the "BrahMos" missile does not fit into the torpedo tube of a submarine. "BraMos-M "510 centimeters in diameter fits freely into a torpedo tube. It can be installed without any major changes on the boat. Within two to three years, the missile will be ready for adoption. The range is the same, the speed is increased to Mach 3,5, the warhead is this same ", - said the representative of BrahMos Aerospace ...".

[Kasym]

APASUS, good day! Yes, everything is in open sources. The main difference is that warheads in owls. 300kg version instead of 200kg in Yakhont, and the range, if on a ground target can be increased. Onyx was considered as UNIVERSAL (anti-ship and work on land. Targets; and any carrier-submarine, ship (up to boats), aircraft and from the launching ground platform) ROCKET. I just don’t know if they brought to the end what they wanted (avia. Option).
ONYX-A with the X-61 rocket, all that wore the letter X was for 7 seals. So only a limited number of people know the exact data. Yakhont goes abroad.

[mig31]

Here is an example of mutually beneficial military cooperation with our friends Indians, I hope not the last development ...

[MSA]

We strengthen strategic partnership.

[Roman 1977]

I read today on the BMPD with reference to ITAR-TASS that India plans to purchase three A-50 airborne surveillance and detection aircraft in Russia.

http://itar-tass.com/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1381670

So much for the air control over the ocean, which was updated after the commissioning of the Vikramaditya, nee Admiral Gorshkov (air group 14-16 MiG-29K aircraft, 2 MiG-29KUB, up to 10 Ka-28, Ka-31 helicopters, HAL Dhruv) and the Indian-made Vikrant aircraft carrier is on its way.

India is consistently creating an ocean fleet system that aims to dominate the Indian Ocean from Hormuz to Sunda Straits.
Here are the elements of this system: multipurpose aircraft carrier groups with new destroyers and BrahMos, long-range naval aviation (R-8 Poseidon - Tu 142 - Il 38) and Su-30MKI with the same BrahMos, AWACS aircraft, powerful coastal missile forces and submarine forces (where there are problems so far).

In about five to seven years, they will catch up on the boats, frigates and destroyers will be mastered in the series, they will start BrahMos, they will work out the interaction, communication and reconnaissance, and, I tell you, India will be the master in the Indian Ocean. Even in the Quiet will look to visit the Chinese.

[Magic archer]

To create a system similar to the American SOSUS using Indian means. At present, it would be much more efficient in finding NATO submarines. If such a program were put to use, then the Chinese would not be left out.

[FREGATENKAPITAN]

Back in the 60s, my father (now deceased) participated in setting up special buoys under the ice of the Arctic ...... The cruiser "Murmansk", now sitting on the stones of Norway, was the base of the group, so to speak ..... dropped our specialists on ice floes .. ... so that the system has existed for a long time!

[avt]

Quote: Novel 1977

I read today on the BMPD with reference to ITAR-TASS that India plans to purchase three A-50 airborne surveillance and detection aircraft in Russia.

Oh how! It seems they themselves with a mustache and some kind of assembly with the Jews, even in the metal did!? Not a ride? Have you decided to order viman in Russia? By the way, I went here to a European censor. Still not letting go from read. There Porosenko announced that the armored column of the Russian Armed Forces that had entered the territory of Ukraine, well, the very one that the Angels saw in the Guardian newspaper, was defeated by the gallant Japanese artillerymen! And jerked me over there and read more comments ETOGES crazy house!

[St Petrov]

every time I censor on the censor first. then sad. then I don’t understand. in the end I'm upset.

[Roman 1977]

Quote: avt

Oh how! It seems they themselves with a mustache and some kind of assembly with the Jews, even in the metal did!? Not a ride? Have you decided to order viman in Russia? By the way, I went here to a European censor. Still not letting go of what he read. There Porosenko announced that the armored column of the Russian Armed Forces, which had entered the territory of Ukraine, well, the very one that the Angels saw in the Guardian newspaper, was defeated by the valiant Japanese artillerymen! And jerked me over there and more comments to read Etozh crazy house!

Buddy avt, found what to read. It looks like all of Ukraine, with the exception of Donbass and Lugansk, is a crazy house. Censor.net is not like Soviet newspapers in the words of Professor Preobrazhensky. I look at the Censor from that point of view only to find out if something has changed in the heads of dill, well, at least under the influence of losses and military defeats. Absolutely nothing. Standard dialogue on Censor.net.

As for the Indians, it seems that from us there will only be a plane that will be taken from the presence or from the Air Force warehouses, and all the filling will be Israeli "Israel Aerospace Industries", as for the first three which the Indians ordered in 2003, and the contract was completed in 2010.
This is the Falcon system: The EL / M-2075 multifunctional pulse-Doppler radar of the Israeli company Elta has a circular viewing area and is designed to detect and track air and surface targets at a distance of up to 450 km. It operates in the 1-280 MHz range at one of 1 frequencies. Each AFAR (sector of view in azimuth 400 degrees) consists of 22 active APMs, which electronically scan the beam pattern in two planes. The antenna arrays are 120 m long and 864 m high. The modules are made on solid-state elements. The beam scanning pattern is carried out: in elevation - 8,87 degrees, in azimuth - 1,73 degrees.

http://www.airwar.ru/enc/spy/a50ei.html

[zennon]

Quote: avt

There Porosenko announced that the armored column of the Russian Armed Forces, which had entered the territory of Ukraine, well, the very one that the Angles saw in the Guardian newspaper was defeated by the valiant Japanese artillerymen!

Yes, he’s still inserting himself. It seems that Cameron also did not taste weak ears! The circus left, and the clowns remained:

Poroshenko and Cameron have coordinated actions to respond to information on the entry into the territory of Ukraine from Russia of military equipment
President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko announces the destruction of a significant part of military equipment that entered the territory of Ukraine from Russia.
According to the presidential press service, Poroshenko said this in a telephone conversation with British Prime Minister David Cameron.
“The interlocutors coordinated actions to respond to information about military equipment entering the territory of Ukraine from Russia, which was clearly recorded by international journalists, in particular, the Guardian newspaper. The President said that this information is reliable and confirmed, since a significant part of this equipment was destroyed at night Ukrainian artillery, "the message says.

[other]

They have already purchased three aircraft! Two years ago! already in the country! already fly!

[Nayhas]

Quote: Novel 1977

I read today on the BMPD with reference to ITAR-TASS that India plans to purchase three A-50 airborne surveillance and detection aircraft in Russia.

Stupidity is a frank fake. In Russia, the A-50 is no longer produced, a very long time. Equipment installed on the A-50 is outdated in the last century. Now we are only upgrading the A-50 to A-50U, but the pace is so slow that we cannot provide ourselves with updated machines. It is also not realistic to build new ones on the basis of the IL-476 in the A-100 configuration, the production pace of the IL-476 is low, there are few resources to support its own air forces, and the A-100 has not yet been worked out and has not been adopted for service.
And the most important thing. What is in service with the Indian Air Force for the A-50 has a very distant relationship because the equipment is installed Israeli ... the products of the Vega concern are not of interest to the Indians ...

[Sobol]

And what are the differences from Our Yakhont in terms of performance characteristics, interesting? Can knowledgeable people enlighten? And then I'm land.

[Tambov Wolf]

Guys, for fun, an article by Dugin. Http://newsland.com/news/detail/id/1416313/

[raketnik]

not much off topic, but very curious and revealing ---- During one of the visits to negotiations with the White House Secretary of State John Kerry in Moscow, there was an embarrassment.
Which caused a clear indignation from the American official on his return to Washington. The topic of negotiations during this visit was the situation around Syria, and in particular the White House initiative to organize a special conference on Syria in Geneva. Having flown by the special board of the US State Department to Moscow, John Kerry was forced to wait for three hours for an audience with Vladimir Putin in the president’s reception. Such deviations in time when organizing official meetings contradict all diplomatic rules and protocols. But in fact, such a curiosity occurred with John Kerry. What Vladimir Putin was doing all this time is not known. Whether any of the ministers were with him at that time or the Russian president was talking with someone on the phone.

But it is safe to say that Putin probably knew who he was sitting in the waiting room. Most likely, this behavior of the Russian president was caused by the understanding that the policy of the American administration in the Middle East is far from what was declared during such negotiations. And the next initiative to organize a conference on Syria is nothing more than another attempt, either to drag out or create the appearance of diplomatic activity aimed at a peaceful resolution of the Syrian conflict.
----- and who will now say that we are a regional power ????

[orenbas]

Brahmos missiles are assembled at the Strela Production Association in Orenburg. I talked 2 years ago with one retired friend. He worked after retirement in the workshop where these brahmos are collected. So he worked there for a little over a year. His words: "they are going to __beat. The customer arrives, his saunas, etc. a half-drunk representative signs the act of readiness. And then they come to the plant about marriage." He looked at this madhouse and left.

[FREGATENKAPITAN]

What a proud friend you are! I took it and quit in protest! But I already wrote somehow that I was dealing with Indians. Yes. and it was possible to go to the bathhouse with vodka only when it came to equipment acceptance ...... very responsible comrades dug up to each valve ....... This is someone you probably mixed up with 199 * year. ..then the African-Arabs could slip rotten BMPs or planes, and even then they gave it for half a penny ............. Now this is simply impossible ........

[GCD]

The way it is!

[Gray 43]

Disgusting execution can kill any brilliant idea, I hope the joint product will be protected from this

[sergeybulkin]

I wonder what they have been developing there for so many years? If you just copied "yahont" (onyx)! Urrya we invented the bicycle !!! How many billions were thrown into the wind (sent to offshore companies) in this sharashka?

[padded jacket]

About the rocket:
Brahmos

his ancestor Yakhont

[el.krokodil]

Quote: raketnik

not much off topic, but very curious and revealing ---- During one of the visits to negotiations with the White House Secretary of State John Kerry in Moscow, there was an embarrassment.
Which caused a clear indignation from the American official on his return to Washington. The topic of negotiations during this visit was the situation around Syria, and in particular the White House initiative to organize a special conference on Syria in Geneva. Having flown by the special board of the US State Department to Moscow, John Kerry was forced to wait for three hours for an audience with Vladimir Putin in the president’s reception. Such deviations in time when organizing official meetings contradict all diplomatic rules and protocols. But in fact, such a curiosity occurred with John Kerry. What Vladimir Putin was doing all this time is not known. Whether any of the ministers were with him at that time or the Russian president was talking with someone on the phone.

But it is safe to say that Putin probably knew who he was sitting in the waiting room. Most likely, this behavior of the Russian president was caused by the understanding that the policy of the American administration in the Middle East is far from what was declared during such negotiations. And the next initiative to organize a conference on Syria is nothing more than another attempt, either to drag out or create the appearance of diplomatic activity aimed at a peaceful resolution of the Syrian conflict.
----- and who will now say that we are a regional power ????

and Obama 40 minutes at some summit was waiting for UNCLE VOVA, and UNCLE VOVA did not apologize and Obama was terribly offended they talked about it in the news

[VICTOR-61]

We’re looking forward to more brahmos missiles for our army, all the more so.

[Drunya]

not in the subject
Speech by Zakharchenko at the DPR session 15.08.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX

[Apollo]

Quote: Dryuya

not in the subject

That's exactly what is not in the topic.
Could embed a video in the topic about Ukraine, the blessing so much more than enough.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

It's okay ... Russia -India, we are friends quietly))) (we exchange technologies) .. In India, IT-schnicks are not bad .. The exchange is in progress! As here the article was .. "We (India), Russia (USSR), you should have raised our country technically and most importantly in educational terms (actually free of charge) .. Now it is difficult for you as it was before, we are obliged to help you" Russia is not against only so that everything is garlic! (deceive you will regret ..)

[gozmosZh]

Quote: avt

... or they are really so buggy on the censor!

[LCA]

Therefore, so that everything does not end in disaster, military confrontation, painful phenomena in the development of the armed forces should be treated without hysteria - especially since all military problems can be resolved only after uniting the peoples of at least the main states and their blocs into an openly anti-crowd “Elitist” conceptual level with global responsibility of all.

Military confrontation, like all other PROCESSES in nature and society, is due to the objective development of the processes that are encompassing and invested in relation to it. It can be sustainable - and it will be peace; it can lose stability - and it will be a war. “If you want peace, get ready for war!” - This is known to all from childhood, and most think that this is the first principle of peaceful coexistence.

But he is only the THIRD (in order of importance) principle of peacekeeping in opposition to the CROWD - “ELITE” SOCIAL SYSTEM. He was known to the Romans. But Rome itself was a crowd - “elitist”, and for this reason in it this principle was not even the second, but the first. And while he is the first in the vector of the goals of managing society in the global historical process, the arms race will continue; there will be a statistical predetermination of the loss of stability of the process of military confrontation; someone will seek to violate this stability artificially, as Zionism has done for centuries.

The second principle is: “If you want peace, write the enemy in the concept of your development. Lead aggression through cultural cooperation. ” This has been the case for centuries with the Nadiude predictor and Freemasonry. He is known to the initiates in their secrets, but for the crowd "does not exist."

But the FIRST principle is: “If you want peace, erode the crowd-elitist social organization in yourself and your current potential adversary; Engage in PREVIOUS inscription. ”

These three principles form a mutually integrated process; the third is embedded in the second; and together they are nested in the first.

But the third principle - "if you want peace - prepare for war" - still plays a role.

Therefore, it is necessary to maintain two genealogical branches of weapons, developing with a 50% shift of the modernization reserve relative to each other so as to always be at a sufficient QUALITY scientific and technical level, and the potential aggressor would not have confidence in the possibility of a victorious blitzkrieg.

The qualitative characteristics of combat use and the manufacturability of their production excel over other characteristics of weapons. The creation of any equipment, including military, is also a complete management function, at the beginning of which lies the CONCEPTUAL ACTIVITY with all the consequences arising from this statement, including the tandem principle.

The industry must be ready for a massive increase in the production of new samples, so that the potential aggressor was confident in the protracted nature of the war planned by him. The range of weapons should not be narrower than that of potential opponents.

The structure of the armed forces and the organization of combat duty should demonstrate to a potential adversary his inability to defend himself from a retaliatory strike with acceptable damage if he inflicts the first massive strike.

[Arh]

I would like Russia to establish military - technical cooperation not only with India but also with Mongolia !!!

[tehnoluks]

In addition, the joint venture has begun the development of yet another Bramos mini cruise missile.

The main thing is not to start doing "Brahmos-nano"while Chubais is there at the helm. And then again he will lock everything up, and the loot will lead offshore.

[Dagger583]

Today went to the exhibition Oboronexpo-2014
if I can write a report
30 minutes stuck on the stand at Bramos - watched video test videos
impressed

[Roman 11]

I apologize, not in the subject, I found such a picture on the latest news of democracy in the states. The person on the left looks like or ....... Somehow March in Simferopol recalled.

[Iskander Khan]

Cool. Photoshop steers. Only Uncle Vova and Ramzanchik would have looked pretty.

[Roman 11]

Quote: Iskander Khan

Uncle Vova and Ramzanchik would have looked pretty.

Uncle Vova and Ramzanchik on the wrong scale, they are more like a playboy aunt on media ....... And Uncle Igor is much more modest, but uncovered an army of dill about half, and all sorts of tambourines from Africa, the Baltic states, Poland, Canada , usa. Moreover, in the T-shirts they are clearly not deletants, but probably sniffed the gunpowder of Iraq, Afghanistan and other hot places. And the army of dill in Europe will yield only to the 3rd, 4th countries ....... all the more so to mobilization.

[tolmachiev51]

All upgrades, improvements are the way to nowhere !!! It is necessary to be new, non-standard, that is, to go one step ahead of the "planet of the whole".