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"New Russia will stand even in the current circumstances"

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"New Russia will stand even in the current circumstances"But Kiev may switch to Transnistria and unleash a war there

Anatoly Wasserman in an exclusive interview with KM.RU analyzes the latest events related to the crisis in Ukraine.

Once again, the same trick will be done as in 2008.

- As far as I can judge, the situation in Ukraine is now on the verge of a very big change. First, a frank fight began between the main accomplices of the coup in Kiev: Kolomoisky and Poroshenko.

Secondly, Poroshenko, apparently, received the task to destroy Novorossia no later than Independence Day of the former Ukraine (August 24). And if he fails to do so, then organize, jointly with Romania (using Moldova as cannon fodder), an attack on Transnistria.

The second front will be able to divert people from the first front for some time. In the Pridnestrovskaia Moldavskaia Respublika under the agreement between it and Moldova there are Russian peacekeepers. Attacking them should have the same effect as the attack on Russian peacekeepers in South Ossetia on August 8 of 2008.

On the one hand, it absolutely obliges the Russian Federation to apply appropriate coercive measures to criminals who openly attack Russian citizens. On the other hand, it serves as a remarkable formal pretext for the West to declare the Russian Federation an absolute aggressor.

Once again, the same trick will be done as in 2008, when they showed footage of the Georgian Gradov who were shooting at villages around Tskhinval, but declared it to be the shelling of the Georgian city of Gori by Russian fighters.

Americans don't care what kind of clashes will happen in the Old World

This time the same thing will be done, and if the Russian Federation organizes a live webcast from the location of the Russian peacekeepers, which is easy to do, then in this case it will be stated that "this is filmed on Mosfilm." And can the corresponding web servers simply be disabled at the right time, which is also easy. Let me remind you that the expression “filmed on Mosfilm” is a meme, very popular in relation to documentary filming of the crimes of Ukraine in Novorossia.

Ukraine’s chances of conquering Novorossia for the time remaining until August 24 are negligible. Based on this, I can suspect that they will somehow arrange an attack on Transnistria. The main organizers of all these crimes (the United States of America) do not care what clashes will occur in the Old World and who will suffer more from these clashes. For the New World, the main thing is to create an environment in the Old World so that all capable resources run from there to the New World. For this, in fact, everything is done.

It is very similar to the fact that Novorossia will stand, even in the present circumstances. The setting is very similar to the phrase: “The great Pierre won many victories, but in stories left alone - Pyrrhic victory. "

Ukrainian punishers are still moving forward, but this is happening so slowly and with such heavy losses that they seem to simply end even before they manage to cause New Russia unacceptable losses. Therefore, I hope that with a little bit competent actions of the Novorossiysk militia themselves, they will ultimately benefit.
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  1. master 84
    master 84 15 August 2014 14: 06
    +24
    Even how to stand. Yes, and step on the tail of a reptile ukrovskaya
    1. ddmm09
      ddmm09 15 August 2014 14: 10
      +13
      They should not surrender Russians in Ukraine! Just do not have to!
      1. DVxa
        DVxa 15 August 2014 14: 20
        +32
        Judging by the latest events, 2 conclusions suggest itself.
        1) Nobody was going to hand over and is not going to.
        2) New Russia is gaining strengths and can itself compete on an equal footing.
        1. nils
          nils 15 August 2014 19: 03
          +10
          A lesson in history: One hundred years ago, Serbian King Alexander I turned to the Sovereign of the Russian Empire Nicholas II at the hour of mortal danger looming over Serbia as the only possibility of deliverance, and despite the fact that Russia was not ready for the war and did not want it, received The answer is positive and prompt.
          And, as the article correctly says, in the end we won.

          Now there is a new war, where since the 1991 of the year Russia has been losing on almost all fronts. Drawing an analogy of the 1914 of the year with the provision of assistance to New Russia, Russia is also not ready for military operations and does not want them, but is there a mistake in refusing effective assistance to her blood brothers (Slavs) and according to the Orthodox Faith. Even if they themselves can do something.
          God does not scold.
          1. Aljavad
            Aljavad 16 August 2014 00: 45
            +1
            in the end we won.

            It is when? In 1945? So this is another war with SAVSE from another country. And the country that gave the answer "positive and quick" did not leave the First World War. She rested in Bose. In particular, because she got involved in the war, being not ready for it. The Serbian kingdom dreamed of a "Great Serbia". And Tsar Nicholas worked off French loans.
            DO NOT STEP ON THE RAKE!
            And if you enter the war - then independently choose a favorable moment for this.
            HISTORY TEACHES THIS.
          2. the same cat
            the same cat 18 August 2014 12: 38
            -1
            My whole soul and heart ached for my Novorossiya. But. Reading articles on different sites. Soul is peddling. Neither the capricious nor the all-prophetic sentiments are acceptable to me. I would like to find in this stream of all sorts of wild forecasts, if not intelligible words about actions, then at least minimally truthful hints. Unfortunately. the impression is depressing - there is a dirty, cynical, ruthless, shameless political game and bargaining. The lives of peoples play no role here, not to mention individual personal tragedies. I do not know how to make links, whoever wants to read it, on the site ru-an.info Having scrolled through the news feed on August 17, the article "Critical Days Are Coming in Novorossiya". I admit that this is another journalistic forecast, but why did she whip me like that? All this I mean is that it’s offensive to heart cramps to feel like a torn leaf at the end of your life. Help, intervene, influence, bang your fist on the table, bark, let’s choke your teeth so that you had to choke on your teeth the day before yesterday ... Why was this not done? Look a little higher.
        2. insafufa
          insafufa 18 August 2014 10: 58
          +1
          Winter is coming soon as it was said in Amerov’s favorite series Game of Thrones
      2. Oleg Sobol
        Oleg Sobol 15 August 2014 14: 24
        +38
        A message from the militia: the Bes group captured the 240-mm heavy self-propelled mortar Tulip, the Uragan volley rocket launcher and the D-30 howitzer
        http://rusvesna.su/news/1408097203
        On August 15, the Bes militia detachment of the Donetsk People's Republic carried out a raid into the rear of the Ukrainian troops.

        Using the surprise factor, as a result of bold and decisive actions in the vicinity of the settlement of Verkhnyaya Krynka, it was possible to capture the 240 mm heavy self-propelled mortar Tulip, the Uragan multiple launch rocket launchers, D-30 howitzers, and also a significant amount of ammunition in good condition .
        At present, the defenders of the Donbass are mastering and preparing for combat use new equipment. In the coming days, it will be used on the most important sectors of the front.
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 15 August 2014 14: 38
          +27
          Quote: Oleg Sobol
          "Bes"

          Igor Bezler is generally handsome; pravoseki are afraid of him like fire. Experienced and tough man.
          1. Underwood
            Underwood 15 August 2014 14: 50
            -28
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Igor Bezler is generally handsome,


            the selection of the epithet delivered. There was a breath of understated "prior" and firing from trauma from the windows of the wedding procession on Tverskaya.
            1. Rom14
              Rom14 15 August 2014 17: 11
              +12
              You on Tverskaya and ride with travmatom, and Guys knock down fascist evil spirits ...
            2. larand
              larand 15 August 2014 19: 20
              +2
              Quote: Underwood
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Igor Bezler is generally handsome,


              the selection of the epithet delivered. There was a breath of understated "prior" and firing from trauma from the windows of the wedding procession on Tverskaya.

              Baby, what are you talking about?
          2. Oleg Sobol
            Oleg Sobol 15 August 2014 16: 02
            +16
            Quote: volot-voin
            But now I don’t like the intrigues of the last time with the resignations of Bolotov, Boroday, Strelkov. Does Akhmetov’s tail agree with Moscow for all this?

            My personal opinion on the resignation of Igor Strelkov / http://stbcaptain.livejournal.com/111661.html

            I’ll try not to write anything about politics here — as a military man, I’ve gotten used to the fact that politics is constantly an objective obstacle to a calm and clear military goal-setting, with the development and implementation of all inextricably and logically connected tasks.
            So:
            At first, scattered and inexperienced paramilitaries of Donetsk and Lugansk naturally reached the level of the militia. He showed exceptional stamina under hours of shelling and attacks, capable of decisive short counterattacks, but unprepared for offensive actions, even in favorable conditions.
            Over time, individual militia units united under the command of the most capable and effective field commanders; detachments of some of them were rapidly declining, while detachments of others were rapidly growing both in quantity and in the quality of actions.
            In recent weeks, the most influential commanders have moved from the company level to at least the brigade level, and some to the corps level.
            With the increase in the number of personnel, the actual transformation of militia groups and units into army units, their saturation with heavy equipment and artillery due to trophies and the restoration of enemy equipment captured on the battlefield, the urgent task of centralizing command and turning “field commanders” in just commanders under the control of an already plenipotentiary commander.
            Igor Ivanovich Strelkov rightfully became a visible and vivid symbol of the Resistance, showing exceptional firmness and fortitude as a talented military leader and organizer - it was thanks to his dedicated work that the DPR and LPR were able to obtain the necessary delay to begin the construction of state mechanisms. However, disparate militias, having gained considerable combat experience, have actually turned into "large battalions." And such connections no longer require a commander, but the commander.
            It was such a commander that the Russian officer Igor Ivanovich Strelkov should have been. Who and why exactly decided otherwise - we will certainly find out. We can appraise and properly, and draw the appropriate conclusions. I would suggest simply establishing a memorial sign for the “Strelkovets” - with a cross and a crown of thorns. I believe that Comrade Colonel will not mind - in the modern history of the Russian state, he entered himself in full right. By the power of his will and the ultimate stress of all forces, making it seem at first impossible.
            And therefore - put aside the panic. And we wish his successors willpower, courage, perseverance, and determination.
            1. Oleg Sobol
              Oleg Sobol 15 August 2014 16: 09
              +10
              http://yurasumy.livejournal.com/147598.html

              MAYOR OF THE SOVIET UNION-Igor Venediktovich Plotnitsky

              Many ask for more clarification of the essence of personnel changes in Lugansk.
              Some, up to the blue ringing, are indignant at the assessment of Valery Bolotov’s persona — like, I slander.
              The first should be answered, the second should click on the nose.
              Fortunately, this is not difficult, and the best method is to listen to the enemy.



              This is written by the famous Sergei Ivanov, "a patriot from Lugansk," who has now hit the road in Madanek. The scum is finished, to the bottom of the soul, and the enemy is fierce, but knows and understands the realities of the LPR very well. Everything that is good for the Nazi is good for him, everything that is bad for the Nazi is hateful to him - from which I recommend starting.

              So, we wish the Man who took off the Mask a dignified life on a well-deserved rest and a new one corresponding to the abilities of the post when he rests, and Igor Venediktovich Plotnitsky every success on a new, very important and responsible front of work.
              I’m sure: he will cope: the empty air carrier didn’t drive in the 1987, and now, they say, it doesn’t drive.
            2. navara399
              navara399 15 August 2014 17: 28
              +3
              I think soon the situation with Igor Ivanovich will become clear. Maybe a person is just tired of politics ... Health and new military successes to him !!!
        2. Black Colonel
          Black Colonel 15 August 2014 14: 49
          +15
          "Tulip" is still a machine! In Grozny, they could not take the Dudayev Palace for a long time. After two (!) Hits of 240-mm mines, the militants rush out of there, like the Prussians from dichlorvos. Together with laser guidance, it is generally an ideal weapon for combat in urban environments.
          Tactical and technical characteristics of 2S4 "Tulip"Characteristics of 2S4
          General characteristics
          Name 2C4 "Tulip"
          Developer OKB-3 UZTM, Special Design Bureau of the Perm Metallurgical Plant.
          Manufacturer Ural Transport Engineering Plant,
          Production series 1971
          Chassis object 305. Base - GMZ (caterpillar mine layer)
          Reservation bulletproof, anti-shatter
          Crew, people. 5
          Communication facilities Radio station - R-123M. Intercom - R-124.
          Weight and size characteristics
          Mass, t 27,5
          Length, mm 6454
          Width, mm 3250
          Height, mm 2760 (3200)
          Clearance, mm 450
          Fire and ballistic characteristics
          Cannon 240 mm mortar 2B8
          Barrel Length, 20,8 Caliber
          Ammunition shots 40 (RP) or 20 (AR) min in two ammunition
          Mines weight, kg 130,7 (F-864), 228 (3F2)
          Transfer time to combat position, min 5
          Rate of fire, rds / min 0,9
          Elevation angle, degrees + 50 ° to + 80 °
          Angle of horizontal guidance, hail. from -23 to +23
          The initial speed of mines, m / s 158-362
          Ammunition 53F864, 3F2 (ARM), nuclear mines (conventional and active-reactive, with a capacity of 2 kt), corrected 3F5 "Smelchak" (since 1983).
          Range accuracy, Vd/X 1/380
          Accuracy of firing on the side, Wb, m 1/500
          Minimum firing range, km 800
          Maximum firing range, km Mino F864 - 9510, 3F2 (AWP) 19690
          Additional armament 7, 62 mm PKT (b / c-1500 rounds)
          Engine, chassis and dynamics
          Engine B-59,12-cylinder 4-stroke diesel
          Power kW (hp) 382 (520)
          Average specific ground pressure, kg / cm3. 0,6
          Maximum speed on the highway, km / h 60
          Maximum ground speed, km / h 30
          Fuel stock, l 850
          Cruising on highway, km 500
          Overcoming obstacles
          Wall height, m ​​0,7
          Ditch width, m 2,7
          Gradeability, city. thirty
          Maximum roll, hail. thirty
          Wade depth, m 1
          1. Mavric
            Mavric 15 August 2014 19: 21
            +2
            About the range in km error, there should be meters.
            1. smern1974
              smern1974 16 August 2014 01: 09
              0
              don't carp
        3. mamont5
          mamont5 15 August 2014 15: 11
          +5
          Quote: Oleg Sobol
          A message from the militia: the Bes group captured the 240-mm heavy self-propelled mortar Tulip, the Uragan volley rocket launcher and the D-30 howitzer


          Soon, the militia heavy weapons dodged surpass. And then those will have nowhere to go.
        4. Matrosov
          Matrosov 15 August 2014 15: 23
          +7
          We will wait for the effective use of these systems.
        5. Artyom
          Artyom 15 August 2014 15: 56
          +5
          there is still a "point" for complete happiness to capture :)
          1. Venier
            Venier 15 August 2014 19: 39
            +3
            there is still a "point" for complete happiness to capture
            And put a control point on Porosenko’s forehead.
            1. smern1974
              smern1974 16 August 2014 01: 15
              0
              they won’t be able to capture the point (they’ve all been shielded from NATO, and so they give them out and not from their warehouses
        6. the same cat
          the same cat 18 August 2014 12: 58
          0
          This is called local battles, which usually do not have a decisive effect on the general operational situation. But when you look at the map of military operations, even embellished (naturally during the war) embellished, you see how slowly but steadily the territory of the militias is being squeezed. I took a 30min-hour bus ride from me from the junta of the village. And without falling into hysteria, I want to shout: But when, at last, the invocation, spells,
          notes of protests, some kind of empty negotiations, conversations that, for those who are beaten and even for those who listen to the endless cannonade, look just like deliberate mockery. victory.
          In our city there is no connection — all phones are silent, there is no Internet, and it is tense with drugs and products. Maybe everyone has already agreed that it WAS NOT JUST 7
      3. Sergey Trifonov
        Sergey Trifonov 15 August 2014 16: 42
        -34
        Already surrendered. Putin and Co. surrendered the Russians at the moment when he proposed to cancel (reschedule) the referendum.
        1. navara399
          navara399 15 August 2014 17: 30
          +9
          Grow first to Putin.
    2. volot-voin
      volot-voin 15 August 2014 14: 18
      +17
      Quote: master 84
      Even how to stand. Yes, and step on the tail of a reptile ukrovskaya

      New Russia is likely to stand. But now I don’t like the intrigues of the last time with the resignations of Bolotov, Boroday, Strelkov. Does Akhmetov’s tail agree with Moscow for all this?
      1. DVxa
        DVxa 15 August 2014 14: 22
        +6
        These people should do what they can do.
        They played a role in the transition, now there is time for the election of politicians.
        And the same Strelkov will do what he’s used to in recent months to fight beautifully and not spend resources on state policy.
        1. smern1974
          smern1974 16 August 2014 01: 27
          0
          I’m probably full zero, but I don’t know why?) A REAL MAN OFFICER WORKS where it is difficult
      2. kayman4
        kayman4 15 August 2014 14: 28
        +4
        A week ago, I thought that ukramakak was too easy to "move" along the dogg and the flanks were too stretched. Any warrior would have suspected not good, especially after the southern boiler, but apparently the desire to see the positive took up and the chopped wedges turned into new bowlers.
        1. Leviton
          Leviton 15 August 2014 14: 47
          +3
          Their deadlines are "burning", and the desire to fight with ukrovoisk is not enough .... so they stretch the flanks in manual mode for imaginary victories, otherwise how to maintain patriotism at the proper level? Well, thinking is not their prerogative. for them the United States thinks ...
      3. CALL.
        CALL. 15 August 2014 14: 59
        +2
        [quote = volot-voin] [/ quote]
        New Russia is likely to stand. But now I don’t like the intrigues of the last time with the resignations of Bolotov, Boroday, Strelkov. Doesn't Akhmetov’s tail agree with Moscow for all this? [/ Quote]
        Most likely, negotiations are being prepared on the fate of New Russia and they are taking those with whom Kiev does not want to negotiate.
      4. VSZMK
        VSZMK 15 August 2014 20: 44
        0
        Does Akhmetov’s tail agree with Moscow for all this?

        Everything can be. After all, UkrTelecom in the Crimea re-registered under Russian law.
      5. Powder
        Powder 17 August 2014 15: 28
        0
        Please note that the humanitarian aid convoy from Russia is recognized by the Ukrainian authorities.
        The union of the DNI and LC.
        Rate the events in Crimea on August 14.
        And yet, the appearance of Mikhail Zadorny today at the TVC speaks to me about something.
        Everything flows, everything changes. Preferably in a good way.
    3. armageddon
      armageddon 15 August 2014 14: 35
      0
      Not only can it stand ... But it will drive the Natsik longer !!!
    4. Giant thought
      Giant thought 15 August 2014 16: 38
      +1
      Apparently, a big war is still brewing, and mattresses will still untie it with the hands of Ukrainian fascists.
    5. GRAY
      GRAY 15 August 2014 20: 59
      +3
      New from Onotole
  2. lexxxus
    lexxxus 15 August 2014 14: 07
    +13
    Yes, it's time to put a big bolt on their opinion and keep their course. The West with the states is not a decree for us!
  3. Homo sapiens
    Homo sapiens 15 August 2014 14: 08
    +6
    Eh, I would have his confidence in the final victory of the militias. The same case when you really want to make a mistake ...
    1. mihasik
      mihasik 15 August 2014 14: 16
      +4
      Quote: Homo sapiens
      Eh, I would have his confidence in the final victory of the militias. The same case when you really want to make a mistake ...


      I agree. Judging by the map of hostilities in recent months, the territory of Novorosia is actively shrinking ...
  4. vovich
    vovich 15 August 2014 14: 08
    +15
    Well. Wasserman uncle smart. Let's see how accurate it is in predicting the international situation.
  5. Altona
    Altona 15 August 2014 14: 08
    +18
    Our cause is right. Victory will be ours ...
  6. aksakal
    aksakal 15 August 2014 14: 09
    +2
    Putin seems to have headed for freezing a conflict like the Transdniestrian one, when de Jure is one thing, de facto another, and it will hang and hang in bunches in the region, until what kind of good will again - the SGA, if it does not fall apart by that moment) matches will not bring. So I doubt about the victory of New Russia. I doubt even more about her death.
    1. ddmm09
      ddmm09 15 August 2014 14: 13
      +1
      Apparently, at this stage, this is the best option for countering the Kiev junta. I do not want an open war on the territory of Ukraine. On the territory of "friends" - for God's sake, at least how many!
    2. Dezinto
      Dezinto 15 August 2014 14: 18
      +10
      The junta should hang, in clusters of trees. Then you can freeze the conflict.

      And so, there the mattress covers are filled up, and since it was not possible to immediately squeeze out the gas and oil of Little Russia, then they want a long sluggish war, right at our side.

      Slavs kill Slavs. Yes, Obama is getting drunk now and having fun on vacation. Such a dream comes true.
      1. Bashkaus
        Bashkaus 15 August 2014 18: 45
        +2
        Well, I don’t know how much Obama has fun, but I was on vacation for a month and was watching TV, turned on and gasped today - he is white, he sat all over ...
    3. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 15 August 2014 14: 45
      +7
      Quote: aksakal
      Transnistrian-type conflict freezing

      And Abkhazian, Ossetian and Karabakh. But here is the nuance and the main difference - there the freezing took place at certain borders, but what will it look like in the Donbass? The junta itself will not retreat to the borders of the Lugansk and Donetsk regions, and the militias will never agree to the territories that they control. There is only one way out - to drive the enemy to the borders of the regions.
      P.S. Salaam alaikum, dear! hi
      1. VSZMK
        VSZMK 15 August 2014 20: 47
        -1
        On the borders at the time of the cessation of hostilities (as 38 parallels).
  7. Finches
    Finches 15 August 2014 14: 10
    +10
    Wasserman is a smart guy! Indeed, in Transnistria, the guys need to keep an eye out! And Bucharest through diplomatic channels needs to make it clear that Rogozin’s joke about flying on the Tu - 160 will not be empty, in case of interference in the affairs of Transnistria!
  8. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 15 August 2014 14: 10
    +2
    ... I hope that with a little bit of competent actions by the Novorossiysk militias themselves, they will ultimately win.

    All normal citizens of our country hope so. And with regard to Transnistria, there is no smoke without fire. And there goes the stirring of all scum.
  9. nitrid
    nitrid 15 August 2014 14: 12
    +14
    Here is another proof of what will stand up and those wishing to join will be added:

    Zaporizhzhya Automobile Plant stops production and reduces staff. Workers of the plant have already been familiarized with the dismissal order. They told the editors of All Power about this.
    In total, ZAZ reduces 21 thousand workers. According to the order, in October the last employee will leave the enterprise.

    Acronym in action ...
  10. Uncle
    Uncle 15 August 2014 14: 13
    +5
    On the one hand, it absolutely obliges the Russian Federation to apply appropriate coercive measures to criminals who openly attack Russian citizens. On the other hand, it serves as a remarkable formal pretext for the West to declare the Russian Federation an absolute aggressor.
    I hope Putin sees a trap. Transnistria, being an enclave, is a very weak spot in our defense.
    1. Oldwiser
      Oldwiser 15 August 2014 14: 25
      +10
      From here a simple conclusion - Odessa MUST be OUR! Then Odessa + Gagauzia + PMR - welcome to Russia, and full-time Chisinau let it go to hell to the hungry and impoverished Romania
  11. Veteran of the Red Army
    Veteran of the Red Army 15 August 2014 14: 14
    +4
    The attack on them should have the same effect as the attack on Russian peacekeepers in South Ossetia on August 8, 2008.


    It looks like the States, in any situation, want to drag Russia into an armed conflict: not in Ukraine, but through Moldova.
    1. 23 region
      23 region 15 August 2014 14: 24
      +10
      Quote: Veteran of the Red Army
      It looks like the States, in any situation, want to drag Russia into an armed conflict: not in Ukraine, but through Moldova

      Invasion forces. Garnish ukroamerikansky lads.
      1. Nikaviz
        Nikaviz 15 August 2014 14: 42
        +8
        If Hitler saw this photo .... then he would fry the photographer, and this three for sausage .... laughing
        1. anip
          anip 18 August 2014 11: 34
          0
          Quote: NIKAVIZ
          If Hitler saw this photo .... then he would have fried the photographer, and this three for sausage.

          Come on.
        2. anip
          anip 18 August 2014 11: 35
          0
          And one more photo
        3. anip
          anip 18 August 2014 11: 37
          0
          And here's another photo.
      2. Aljavad
        Aljavad 16 August 2014 01: 23
        0
        ukroamerican

        It doesn't smell like states. Africa. And in the center maybe Yu.Indiya.
    2. vitamin ky
      vitamin ky 15 August 2014 14: 25
      +2
      Yes, they have long dragged in - while at the level of rhetoric and assistance to the Novorossiysk-but what will happen next - it is useless to guess - let's see
    3. volot-voin
      volot-voin 15 August 2014 14: 28
      +4
      Quote: Veteran of the Red Army
      It looks like the States, in any situation, want to drag Russia into an armed conflict: not in Ukraine, but through Moldova.

      Yeah, the United States just needs war as a sip of blood to a vampire. Don't get so dead.
    4. miv110
      miv110 15 August 2014 14: 42
      0
      So it’s been clear for a long time, and besides Russia, to draw Europe into the same place, the dream is to warm your hands over a European fire.
    5. Signaller
      Signaller 15 August 2014 16: 48
      0
      And who would doubt it. ???
  12. Grabberxnumx
    Grabberxnumx 15 August 2014 14: 14
    +3
    And Putin’s peaceful speech in Yalta 2014, as well as Medvedev’s peaceful speech to Ossetia 2008. All that was later known: falling to the ground from the sounds of a flying helicopter and eating neckties .. THE HISTORY IS REPEATED! BUT! Do not forget that the second time can be repeated in the form of farce!
  13. Kolorad
    Kolorad 15 August 2014 14: 16
    +6
    All according to plan. New Russia to be!
  14. Alexandr 2
    Alexandr 2 15 August 2014 14: 17
    +2
    It is unlikely that Ukraine will climb into Transnistria. They would understand in their own country.
    1. vitamin ky
      vitamin ky 15 August 2014 14: 29
      +1
      as we see, these tricks can carry out the most incredible actions - silly in essence and content - so that I wouldn’t be so sure - from the monkey with a machine gun and a grenade - they are waiting for everything even impossible and illogical
    2. volot-voin
      volot-voin 15 August 2014 14: 35
      0
      Quote: Alexandr 2
      It is unlikely that Ukraine will climb into Transnistria. They would understand in their own country.

      In the USA they will order - they will climb. Not long ago, we also did not believe that there would be a war in the Donbass. The economy of Ukraine even then sang romances, and the army was quietly dying, idly looking at the raging Maidan.
    3. mamont5
      mamont5 15 August 2014 15: 15
      0
      Quote: Alexandr 2
      It is unlikely that Ukraine will climb into Transnistria. They would understand in their own country.


      They themselves would not have climbed, but the owners are pushing in the back.
  15. Vend
    Vend 15 August 2014 14: 18
    +9
    It will stand, but whether there will be an attack on Transnistria, we will see.
  16. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 15 August 2014 14: 20
    +5
    They put pressure on the junta and not bad ... But Wasserman is right that in the near future there will be another even more monstrous provocation!
    1. Uncle
      Uncle 15 August 2014 14: 27
      0
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Crush the junta and not bad ..

      But what about them without Strelkov, Beard and others? Who is in charge?
      1. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov 15 August 2014 14: 44
        +2
        Quote: Uncle
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Crush the junta and not bad ..

        But what about them without Strelkov, Beard and others? Who is in charge?

        Strelkov became the head of the General Staff of Novorossia .. what he does not know how to do so that everything is fine I think concentration and unification are going on (for the main blow to the junta)
      2. VSZMK
        VSZMK 15 August 2014 20: 52
        0
        Poroshenko. He and Avakov play in the game!
      3. Aljavad
        Aljavad 16 August 2014 01: 33
        0
        Who is in charge?

        The world is not without good people. smile
  17. Vitalka
    Vitalka 15 August 2014 14: 23
    +8
    New Russia will stand and the PMR will not go anywhere. Zae ... used dill and gypsies.
  18. Stiletto
    Stiletto 15 August 2014 14: 24
    +2
    Quote: Wend
    It is unlikely that Ukraine will climb into Transnistria. They would understand in their own country.


    Not Urkain, so the States - this is all the same where we shit.
  19. saag
    saag 15 August 2014 14: 28
    +2
    against money, humanitarian aid Akhmetov and reconciliation will not stand, she has no purpose and leaders, everything is back to square one
    1. volot-voin
      volot-voin 15 August 2014 14: 39
      +1
      Quote: saag
      against money, humanitarian aid Akhmetov and reconciliation will not stand, she has no purpose and leaders, everything is back to square one

      As always, any good initiative in the bud ruins betrayal and a stab in the back.
  20. RUSS
    RUSS 15 August 2014 14: 28
    +4
    Secondly, Poroshenko, apparently, received the task of destroying New Russia no later than Independence Day former Ukraine (24 August).

    I liked the phrase - "the former Ukraine", and in fact Ukraine is more of a territorial entity than a state one, and at the same time losing its territory.
    1. 41 REGION
      41 REGION 16 August 2014 05: 36
      0
      Quote: RUSS
      Secondly, Poroshenko, apparently, received the task of destroying New Russia no later than Independence Day former Ukraine (24 August).

      I liked the phrase - "the former Ukraine", and in fact Ukraine is more of a territorial entity than a state one, and at the same time losing its territory.

      More precisely, it is not legally occupying its territory hi
  21. silver169
    silver169 15 August 2014 14: 29
    +3
    God forbid, guys will stand. Long live NEWS!
  22. Korvin1000
    Korvin1000 15 August 2014 14: 33
    0
    ddmm09 (1) RU Today, 14:10 ↑

    They should not surrender Russians in Ukraine! Just do not have to!



    Stand, just need to fix something. If a war is declared not as it is now: between Russians and Ukrainians, but as between exploiters and oppressed, then the war will be different. The Nazis will stop receiving support. And it will be easier for us to help New Russia. But military assistance, oh, how much needed.
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 15 August 2014 14: 48
      +2
      Quote: Korvin1000
      But military assistance, oh, how much needed.

      Murray, who criticized Strelkov and wrote in recent days about the discharge of New Russia, suddenly started talking about sharply increased deliveries from Russia over the past 2 days. In nete they write that in Krasnodon, all the warehouses are stocked. Voentorg or something else is not indicated.
      1. Signaller
        Signaller 15 August 2014 16: 51
        0
        Well yes????? BTR or howitzer d-30 with a check from Voentorg.
  23. Rostislav
    Rostislav 15 August 2014 14: 34
    +3
    Yes, one can expect a direct attack on Transnistria from the junta and the Russian peacekeepers will no longer be silent. Unless the military contingent of Pridnestrovie is able to respond to the aggression in such a way that no "supplements" from the Russian Armed Forces will be required.
  24. Modern19
    Modern19 15 August 2014 14: 35
    0
    The option with Transnistria (like any other real one in theory) cannot be discounted, since Amerikos needs the war with the participation of Russia ... This is already becoming clear to the whole world. One cannot help getting ready for such options. You can’t relax.
    From the side of Moldova, Transnistria has a natural barrier - p. Dniester. I propose to expand the ditch dug by the fascist junta along the borders with Transnistria and fill it with water - there will be a second natural barrier (:-)))
  25. Wolka
    Wolka 15 August 2014 14: 36
    0
    it’s too early to deceive yourself ...
  26. Alex20042004
    Alex20042004 15 August 2014 14: 36
    0
    The real picture of the events on the front line in Ukraine:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzGSVkHZZnc#t=213

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYBbwnBrabI

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsfXFJg8TaI
  27. Loner_53
    Loner_53 15 August 2014 14: 36
    +1
    Wasserman is rarely mistaken. Ukram will be ok if they climb into Transnistria. Then the Georgian scenario cannot be avoided, and we remember how it ended. Many will have to eat ties.
  28. BMVIK
    BMVIK 15 August 2014 14: 37
    0
    Comrades, I missed something, it seems - what will happen on August 24? Why should parashenko be defeated before the specified date? maybe the next tranche of the IMF? Not?
    1. Andriuha077
      Andriuha077 15 August 2014 15: 15
      +6
      Quote: BMVIK
      24 August?

      Last Independence Day b / Ukraine.
      1. Waterfowl
        Waterfowl 15 August 2014 17: 59
        +1
        Ha ha ha In the top ten!
    2. VSZMK
      VSZMK 15 August 2014 20: 56
      0
      The parade in Sevastopol. (humanitarian aid has already been sent in the form of plaques, roll up your lip).
  29. Andriuha077
    Andriuha077 15 August 2014 14: 41
    +5
    It's time!

    http://www.segodnia.ru/content/144795
    1. Most likely. The President of Ukraine will run away from the country, and will be eliminated with the help of an ice pick.
    2. Another variant. The president will be extradited to the self-determined New Russia. He will hide for quite some time.
    3. There is also the option that the whole of Ukraine will understand and be shot.
    4. It may happen that Ukraine suddenly ceases to be an ally of the United States. Poroshenko will be transported to the States - they will be tried - and there he will either have a fatal injection or an electric chair.
    5. Ukraine will finally turn into chaos. They drag his corpse through the streets, with a hoot and a hoot.
    6. There is, of course, one more, the most worthy, he will shoot himself, like Hitler.
  30. Russ69
    Russ69 15 August 2014 14: 41
    +7
    "Wasp", in Donetsk ...
    1. IAlex
      IAlex 15 August 2014 18: 42
      +1
      And how did you determine that she was in Donetsk, and not in Bobruisk for example?
  31. Russ69
    Russ69 15 August 2014 14: 42
    +10
    What Svidomo writes from Lugansk about the resignation of Bolotov ....

    Unfortunately, I cannot share the joys of some patriotic Luhansk residents regarding the resignation of the head of the LPR, Valery Bolotov. Valery, as expected to subordinate Efremov, was loving, flexible, manageable but, in general, contacted and deprived of mania. I think it was the remnants of his once humanity that Valery had been bitter for the last couple of months. You can’t argue, this is really so - information from one of his drinking buddies.
    We look who came to his place.
    Igor Venediktovich Plotnitsky. Personnel military. He graduated from the Penza Higher Artillery Engineering College. Chief Marshal of Artillery N.N. Voronov (the military is aware of what kind of university). Do not pay attention to appearance - this is exactly the case when it is lying. It was he, in close cooperation with the Russians, who took advantage of the negligence of the Ukrainian commanders, burned our soldiers in Zelenopol, and this operation, even according to our military, was planned and carried out perfectly.
    But the worst thing: this war is "sacred" for him. That is, he is an ideal, perfect, original quilted jacket. Quilted jacket 999-test. By the way, this war is sacred for his brother, who lives quietly for himself in Kiev, regularly distorts the Russian Federation and does not care. My brother's data was transferred by me to a high-ranking official of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, whom you all know well, two months ago. And judging by the fact that Igoryok flooded up, passed in vain. I'm not saying that you need to grab your brother and send him to Lugandon piece by piece, but the police could still try to give birth to some kind of operational combination. Just take it and not go to television, but sit together, give birth to the usual operational combination and reunite the brothers at Lukyanovka's "threesome". By the way, in this case, Zelenopillya might not have happened.
    What this appointment tells us, I hope you already guessed. Correctly. The invaders no longer consider the Hall ... pu as a serious player in the Luhansk region, which is why his protege Bolotov flew so lightning fast. And in the end, we got a real Pinochet, motivated, cold-blooded and professional. Which will bring so much hemorrhoids to our troops that the popular and media guys from the Ministry of Internal Affairs did not even dream of.
    1. KBR109
      KBR109 15 August 2014 14: 54
      +1
      Bravissimo! I am delighted ! More professionals, good and different!
  32. 23424636
    23424636 15 August 2014 14: 44
    0
    unequivocally, the Jewish council to climb in Transnistria Poroshenko certainly already to the elbow in the blood. but to the throat, not climb.
  33. Yves762
    Yves762 15 August 2014 14: 45
    0
    Something Comrade is bending.
    The conflict in Transnistria, as the next stage of the big geopolitical game, maybe.
    But this is what "Poroshenko is organizing, together with Romania (using Moldova as cannon fodder), an attack on Transnistria ..." - STE hurts ... um ... ts. large-scale for the "banana republic".

    Kiev and its problems will be enough for a very long time. And the failure of the ATO will soon become the end (perhaps not only political am ) many in the current government. In vain did the same Yatsenyuk from his post try to make his legs ...
  34. Martta
    Martta 15 August 2014 14: 46
    +3
    Isn’t the new appointment of Igor Ivanovich connected with Transnistria?
    1. 41 REGION
      41 REGION 16 August 2014 05: 45
      0
      Shh, why so loud? hi
  35. Russ69
    Russ69 15 August 2014 14: 52
    +5
    By the way, Strelkov wrote a few days ago ...

    “Unfortunately, Kurginyan is just a small fry on a leash for those who are going to remove me from command of the militia under any pretext. In fact, the Slavic brigade fighters now make up three quarters of all DPR fighters fighting at the front. They fight in the most dangerous areas and directions. , not only defend, but also attack, and take settlements (in the morning they took Kozhevnya, finally). "How could the bourgeoisie help" in such conditions? That's right! Eliminate the commander of this brigade, who created it "from scratch" ... maybe then herself scatter ... "
  36. Karevik
    Karevik 15 August 2014 14: 53
    +2
    Until August 24, arrange, but still dill-tsy will squeeze it without direct support from us.
  37. Russ69
    Russ69 15 August 2014 15: 01
    +6
    Lnr

    South of Luhansk. A humanitarian convoy from Russia has awakened military action on this front from hibernation. An attempt to disrupt the advance of the column prompted the leadership of the junta to organize an attack on Novosvetlovka-Khryaschevate. The goal is to cut the remaining road along which the Lugansk garrison was supplied. The initial success (caused by the surprise of the throw) was replaced by a rout. As of the morning in the Khryashchevate area, subdivisions of the "Aydar" battalion were defeated (the junta recognized 22 killed and 36 wounded). In the Novosvetlovka area, units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (up to a company of tanks and a company of motorized infantry) suffered significant losses (up to half of the tanks). Now there is a fire defeat of the entrenched group. I think a day or two and everything will be over here.

    Conclusions. No matter how anyone relates to the last resignations (Strelkov, Bolotov), ​​but ... it was after them that the headquarters of all the armed forces of the militia was created, which will now be more correctly called the army. Because the central command is the only thing that the militia lacked for this. The result of these concerted actions is already visible and I think these results will be more tangible every day. Moreover, having formally given the leadership of the republics a purely "Ukrainian look" (according to the passport. All those who flash on the screens are citizens of the former Ukraine), the army of the South-East can solve problems outside the republics. Including "political" ones. Simultaneously with the centralization of the army's command, the remnants of the Makhnovshchina will be removed, which will discredit the entire movement. So a radical turning point in the war is no longer just soon. It is already visible to the naked eye.

    Notes. In the junta's troops, the names not of regular units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but of all sorts of militarized "battalions" are increasingly flashing. This is a direct result of losses in recent weeks and a consequence of the advancement of "second-order units" to the first line, which immediately affected both the losses and the advancement of the strike forces (the example of Illovaisk is very illustrative). That is, the most efficient units of the junta have either already died (72, 79, 51, units of the 24th brigade), or are now blocked in the boilers (80, 95, 30 brigades and units of the 24th). And the "battalions" holding the front, for all their "patriotism", cannot be compared with the regular army. That is, at the front, there is not only a quantitative (especially in technology) equalization of forces, but also a qualitative one (in qualitative terms, the army of the South-East has already noticeable superiority).
  38. Russ69
    Russ69 15 August 2014 15: 02
    +7
    DNR

    District Saur-Graves. The counterattack of the DPR troops launched on 11 on August led to the fact that on August 12 Stepanovka was occupied, and in the morning of 13, Marinovka. Happy 13-th checkpoint "Marinovka". Thus, the Southern boiler 2.0 was formed. As a result, three more BTG APU were surrounded. The desperate counterattack of the forces of the junta on Stepanovka 13-14 of August led to heavy fighting on the approaches and in the village itself, but it ended in the complete defeat of the attacking group. So far, the “role” of Saur-Grave herself is not particularly visible. It follows that the seizure of it is nothing more than a PR move of the junta (similarly to the arming of the German flag on Elbrus in 1942)

    Snezhnoe-Miusinsk-Krasnyi Luch (DPR + LPR). The situation is under the full control of the militia. The group, although it did not lose until the end of its combat capability, was cut into pieces by the militia and conducts defensive battles. Given the importance of the crossroads, this grouping will be destroyed as a priority. The control over Miussinskom is completely restored. The Red Ray is also firmly in the hands of the militia.

    South of Donetsk. Fierce fighting last days went on in the region of Illovaysk. The importance of this region is that it is a convenient base for a strike to the rear of the Amvrosiev group. On the other hand, the offensive conceived by the junta with the aim of encircling Donetsk also required the capture of this city. It was for this reason that the militia kept him struggling. And restrained. And even defeated the advancing group. The enemy was everywhere thrown back and did not show activity on the last day. In this direction, it seems that the junta has no reserves left (what I thought would be transferred to the Southern Boiler deblockade. This gives the militia some opportunities.)

    West of Donetsk. In addition to the stupid destruction of the bus with the PS militants, nothing happened. But this is an episode. In general, there is a lull.

    North of Donetsk-Gorlovka-Debaltseve. Fierce battles all previous days. First, the attacks of the Kiev troops at the junction of the militia between Gorlovka and Yasinovataya on Nizhnaya Krynka. Simultaneously, the second blow from Debaltsevo to Uglegorsk. This is part of the operation to encircle and dissect the Donetsk-Makeevsko-Horlivka group of the DPR. Due to the lack of forces, the operation got stuck without reaching its goals. The counter-offensive of the militia began yesterday. Yasinovataya is again under the control of the DPR. The development of the offensive on Panteleimonovka will cut off the strike group from the rest of the troops. Near Horlivka, the enemy lost dozens of armored vehicles and, in fact, lost their strike capabilities. Moreover, Mozgovoy's group began an offensive in the rear of Debaltseve. As of the morning, battles were taking place on the outskirts of the city. The loss of Debaltseve threatens the junta with a new cauldron. In this direction, there has been a radical change. The junta is no longer advancing, but is trying not to get into new "boilers".
  39. Dormidosha
    Dormidosha 15 August 2014 15: 02
    +1
    And it seems to me that if these UTYRKI "twitch" in Transnistria, then Russia will have a big carte blanche for using the Armed Forces both on the territory of Transnistria and on the territory of Ukraine, and then we will pocket Odessa and Gagauzia!
  40. mig31
    mig31 15 August 2014 15: 04
    +1
    Not only stand, but win !!!!!!
  41. Luga
    Luga 15 August 2014 15: 04
    +3
    It is rightly said: "Americans do not care what clashes will occur in the old world." How, tell me, how can you not understand that all THIS is not needed by ANYONE except a mattress. Ukraine does not need this, Europe does not need it. Theater of the absurd. Common sense does not rest - it writhes in agony.
    I want to know only two things: what is the reason for such a powerful influence of the states on European leaders (apparently, personal) and, most importantly, how they see a way out of this situation ... How they see the world AFTER the end of this mess and not in their own Dreams, in REAL reasonable political forecasts.
    States lead Europe to war. Europe dutifully follows this path. The war for half-dead Europe will inevitably end in a crisis, during which those leaders who led it to this war will inevitably say goodbye to the authorities, and some, possibly, to life. Should they have at least some instinct for self-preservation?

    Russia is trying to avoid war and "becomes" an aggressor.

    By the way, in the mattress, apparently, the latest history is known and respected. The global conflict in Europe has always been beneficial to the states, they remember that very well. On this yeast, they have risen to the level of a superpower over thirty years (1914 - 1945).
  42. mackonya
    mackonya 15 August 2014 15: 22
    +1
    I wonder where those "commentators" who recently "squealed" have gone - "they are abandoning the Russians," "Novorossiya has been drained," "Putin, bring in the troops" - and I have long said that it is not possible to defeat the militia forces (in the traditional sense), small sabotage groups into two large cities with a large population. It is necessary to wipe the city off the face of the earth, but it is impossible, although they are trying to do it now, killing the civilian population.
    1. Russian jacket
      Russian jacket 17 August 2014 04: 35
      0
      Where did you go? They are waiting for instructions on what to write, or something like a finger in the sky, it’s a shame for the puppeteers ... Although it’s unlikely they have such a feeling ....
  43. AUL
    AUL 15 August 2014 15: 47
    +1
    I don’t think that Ukraine will risk starting a war on two fronts - it’s quite successfully swearing with one front. And in order for them to rock the boat now in Transnistria, they have to be absolutely clinical idiots. After all, it's a no brainer that an attack on our peacekeeping corps automatically leads to the entry of our troops to help them, and this entry will be through Odessa and neighboring regions. Moreover, they will not have time to dump all sorts of poroshenko into the states, "specially trained people" will take care. Of course, the states are quite satisfied with this option, but even in Kiev, at least the instinct of self-preservation should work (since the heads are clearly inactive there) in order to disobey the owners in this situation.
  44. bogdan4ik
    bogdan4ik 15 August 2014 15: 53
    +2
    Suppose that Russia does not help Novorossia in any way in the fight against Kiev. Suppose that Novorossiya defeated Kiev (even though this is a fantasy speculation). Suppose that Novorossiya took control of not only 8 regions of the South-East. Novorossiya defeated Kiev and rode into it and its offices on a white horse. What do we have at the end? Everything is very bad - a sufficient number of trained and experienced managers who could quickly and efficiently put things in order in the economy, establish the necessary ties both in the economy and in politics, put industry and agriculture in order. On favorable terms, we will agree on crediting the first steps. New Russia does not have this anything and nobody. That is, if we hypothetically fantasize that victory has come right now, we run into a situation where cunning and cunning ki will come to "help" Novorossia and stupidly throw Novorossia even worse than the previous 4 presidents and under-president Waltzman threw it. Gentlemen - Novorossia will not survive without Russia. After the victory (fantasized), Novorossia is simply drowned out on those topics on which Novorossia has neither specialists nor experience. Some may assume that Russia will help. Yes, it will help if Putin can deal with the traitors. So far, the traitors are bankrupt. And most likely, without the introduction of troops into Ukraine from the Russian Federation, these traitors will quickly take control of Novorossiya and drive it into even greater bondage than it is now. In general, without the introduction of troops and with the fantasized victory of Novorossiya, we will have a pure banana territory with absolute slaves on its territory. But without the introduction of Russian troops, or at least widespread assistance at the state level from the Russian Federation, first of all, a large number of specialists with vast experience, as well as a huge amount of various property and supplies, there will be no victory for Novorossia at all. Until the introduction of troops, the United States will cover Waltzman with all its might and finance him with the maintenance of punitive detachments to retain power. If only the war went on longer and the Russians killed each other longer.
  45. ghbvfrjd
    ghbvfrjd 15 August 2014 16: 02
    +1
    USA must be destroyed !!!
  46. Nikxnumx
    Nikxnumx 15 August 2014 16: 07
    +10
    Quote: lexxxus
    Yes, it's time to put a big bolt on their opinion and keep their course. The West with the states is not a decree for us!
    1. Aljavad
      Aljavad 16 August 2014 02: 05
      +1
      Good Serbian proverb.
  47. Karasik
    Karasik 15 August 2014 16: 41
    0
    Quote: LevITon
    Well, thinking is not their prerogative. for them the United States thinks ....

    That's right, and the US task is to destroy as many Slavs as possible. Hence the tactics, or rather its complete absence. In the State Department, they probably just summarize the losses on one side and the other, and joyfully rub their hands!
  48. Signaller
    Signaller 15 August 2014 16: 44
    0
    I think you just need not to open your ears, so that they are not pulled for them and keep the tail with a carrot to answer when necessary. To be, as the pioneers say, always ready.
  49. Signaller
    Signaller 15 August 2014 16: 58
    0
    Well, something like this----- We are always ready.
  50. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 15 August 2014 17: 12
    +1
    no panic and unnecessary imagination! all in good time - in Russia in the 17th and subsequent years were trained personnel to run the state? time passed and new personnel were trained, while the "old" specialists were also used. Time and only time will show what will happen, but the already existing government should show the people the goals of the new state, its ideological superstructure, which every state has, although not always shown (depending on who actually determines economic policy in the state). I call to declare the goal of building a just socialist state, in which there is no private ownership of land and its subsoil. private and personal property is permissible, but not contrary to the specified goals, but complementary. Here, in short, is my vision of the future structure of Novorossiya !!!