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Another ukroministir is going to sue "Ukrainian assets" from Russia

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Ukrainian Minister Semerak is determined to sue Russia for those assets that, in his opinion, should belong to Ukraine after the collapse of the USSR. This is the second idea of ​​this kind in the current year. In March, a similar initiative was made by the head of the Ukrainian Ministry of Justice, Mr. Petrenko. Minister Semeraka quotes resource Maintain Economy:

For the first time in all the years of independence, the government has systematically addressed the issues of succession to the debts of the USSR. We decided to create a commission to protect the interests of Ukraine in this matter. An inventory of everything that may belong to Ukraine will be carried out. We will reach the end in this matter and take away all the assets that belong to Ukraine and have not been returned so far - right up to going to the courts.


Another ukroministir is going to sue "Ukrainian assets" from Russia


According to the above-mentioned Petrenko, the amount of "debt" of Russia to Ukraine is 80 billion dollars, and taking into account some indexation - $ 130 billion.

Declaring that they are ready to sue “Ukrainian assets” from Russia, the Ukrainian authorities seem to forget that Russia, as the successor of the USSR (that’s how the authorities had defined it), was forced to repay the debts of all Soviet republics. Debts of the Ukrainian SSR as well. In this case, Ukraine, before filing a lawsuit, will have to return to Russia those tens of billions of dollars that Russian taxpayers paid to international funds “for themselves and for that guy.”
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  1. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 14 August 2014 08: 15
    +25
    "The amount of Russia's 'debt' to Ukraine is $ 80 billion, and taking into account some indexation - $ 130 billion."

    In turn, in turn, we will first pay the Balts, we also owe them a lot. smile
    1. ℳy ℒiƒℯ
      ℳy ℒiƒℯ 14 August 2014 08: 23
      +4
      the amount of “debt” of Russia to Ukraine is $ 80 billion, and taking into account some indexation - $ 130 billion.
      1. Vedmed_23
        Vedmed_23 14 August 2014 08: 49
        +11
        "Who doesn't like blacks is a racist. Who doesn't like Jews is an anti-Semite. Who doesn't like Russians is a human rights activist."
        1. WKS
          WKS 14 August 2014 09: 51
          +3
          This Petrenko probably still ran without pants when Kravchuk refused all Soviet debts that Russia paid to the whole world until 2005. If Petrenko, who has grown up and is dressed in trousers, is ready to compensate Russia for these debts, as well as all the costs associated with them, then why not talk to him about this subject - Kravchuk.
    2. stalfal
      stalfal 14 August 2014 08: 23
      +5
      First, they would have considered their debts to Russia. Subject to indexing.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 14 August 2014 08: 34
        +6
        Quote: stalfal
        First, they would have considered their debts to Russia. Subject to indexing.

        So they calculated that it’s 130 billion, taking into account the deduction of debts for gas and everything else. They will begin to count for the Crimea and will become virtually richer in Germany.
        1. Varyag_1973
          Varyag_1973 14 August 2014 10: 03
          +5
          For Alexander. Here, I immediately remembered a joke:
          Virtually we are the son of millionaires
          but really we have two bl * dei and one old 3,14 donor !!!
          Right to the point about the current dill!
        2. 222222
          222222 14 August 2014 11: 28
          +1
          Alexander Romanov (3) RU Today, 08:34 ↑ They will start counting for Crimea and will become vertically richer than Germany. "
          ... it is dangerous here with the Crimea .. otherwise the Russian Federation will count the rent for 23 years .... laughing
      2. mamont5
        mamont5 14 August 2014 08: 38
        +1
        Quote: stalfal
        First, they would have considered their debts to Russia. Subject to indexing.


        They don’t remember about their debts. What for? Anyway, there’s nothing to pay.
        1. tol100v
          tol100v 14 August 2014 08: 50
          +1
          Quote: mamont5
          They don’t remember about their debts. What for? Anyway, there’s nothing to pay.

          Yes, they owe everything to the collective farm like land!
      3. 222222
        222222 14 August 2014 11: 26
        0
        The next ukrominister is going to sue Russia "Ukrainian assets"
        ..piplu need some havlo to hawala .. that's what they throw in at regular intervals .. and their brains were hammered and they united around "Idea" ...
    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 14 August 2014 08: 32
      +10
      Quote: Vladimirets
      In the queue, in the queue, we will first pay the balts, we owe them a lot too

      What queue, the Censor is already calculating where and how many billions will be invested after Russia repays them all debts with interest.
      I thought it was clowns jumping on maidan, but no, the government is even more fun.
      1. Sirocco
        Sirocco 14 August 2014 09: 09
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        I thought it was clowns jumping on maidan, but no, the government is even more fun.
        It seems that in Ukraine in all mental hospitals an open day is held, and the Rada has become a haven for all the wretched, and those who are not friends with their heads.
        I remembered about the video, at the expense of more fun. Everything is like in Ukraine.
        1. Slavapom
          Slavapom 14 August 2014 09: 41
          +2
          I’m afraid that all of Ukraine is now one complete madhouse, and the most adequate ones are hiding in the asylum. =)
      2. Consul-t
        Consul-t 14 August 2014 09: 18
        +2
        Alexander, share the skin of a dead bear?
        made laugh, what naive little people ...
      3. PSih2097
        PSih2097 14 August 2014 09: 37
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        I thought it was clowns jumping on maidan, but no, the government is even more fun.

        No, here’s glad the merry-go-round is already rushing, especially when they walk in there with a rabbit, Kashchenko is pouring with burning tears ...
    4. Giant thought
      Giant thought 14 August 2014 08: 34
      +3
      From a dead donkey ears to them.
      1. Max otto
        Max otto 14 August 2014 09: 27
        +1
        Hmm. Shaw Senya, shaw this wise man from the government of Ukraine. There, a certificate of dementia is probably obligatory for work, they won’t be taken without it. I would have neighed with this panopticon, if not for war.
    5. subbtin.725
      subbtin.725 14 August 2014 08: 54
      +1
      This is already the second idea of ​​this kind this year.

      Another nonsense. It is visible the end for maydanutykh is not far off.
    6. xenod55
      xenod55 14 August 2014 09: 02
      +3
      The bookkeepers are worthless, give them all and give them back, they themselves cannot earn anything. They only knew all their life how to appropriate and use someone else's. Ukraine was "born" by the USSR and built everything there. Now these gopniks are yelling: give us "Ukrainian". And where is your "Ukrainian", but nowhere.
    7. velikoros-xnumx
      velikoros-xnumx 15 August 2014 01: 36
      0
      Quote: Vladimirets
      In the queue, in the queue, we will first pay the balts, we owe them a lot too

      Interestingly, what will be accepted for payment - in "Iskander", or in "Tochki", or in some other freely convertible "currency".
  2. Yuriy.Sergunov
    Yuriy.Sergunov 14 August 2014 08: 16
    +2
    this Semerak ...
    1. Момент
      Момент 14 August 2014 08: 24
      +4
      Clinical observations have shown that pathological deviations wishful thinking is observed in everyone who comes to the Ukrainian government.
      Conclusion hospitalization is especially violent.
      1. serega.fedotov
        serega.fedotov 14 August 2014 09: 01
        +1
        Quote: Moment
        Clinical observations have shown that pathological deviations wishful thinking is observed in everyone who comes to the Ukrainian government.

        In spring and autumn, shizophrenics increase their activity! So they become more active slowly-autumn after 3 weeks!
    2. FANTOM-72
      FANTOM-72 14 August 2014 08: 45
      +4
      Quote: Yuriy.Sergunov
      this Semerak ...

      Polish apples apparently overeat, here is the bottom and knocked out.
  3. vitaz
    vitaz 14 August 2014 08: 17
    +8
    It’s necessary to invoice them for the rental of Crimea, taking into account how much they spoiled there
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  5. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 14 August 2014 08: 20
    +4
    Another dullness of the next hohlopithecus. They don't even look ahead an hour, just to blurt out something "smart" so that they can swing in the mud later. Jellyfish without brains and even smarter junta ... wassat
    1. zao74
      zao74 14 August 2014 08: 28
      +1
      just to blurt out something "smart
      I would say: "Blast towards Russia."
  6. silverwolf88
    silverwolf88 14 August 2014 08: 20
    +1
    Another blue-eyed cockerel with absolutely full-time ideas about legal succession and international law ... somehow a disaster struck the earth ... extremely poorly educated people get into governments ... as I understand it was put forward on the personal recommendation of Psaki ...
  7. Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 14 August 2014 08: 21
    +3
    Dreaming is not harmful ... In addition, Novorossia has never been Ukraine, so a counter offer from me: Take your manat and added steps from Kharkov, Odessa, Kherson, Dnepropetrovsk, Lugansk, Donetsk, Berdyansk towards Kiev.
    1. Consul-t
      Consul-t 14 August 2014 09: 23
      +1
      Not Kiev, but to Galicia, from Kiev, too, they must be driven fellow
  8. Nick
    Nick 14 August 2014 08: 24
    +1
    according to the above-mentioned Petrenko, the amount of “debt” of Russia to Ukraine amounts to 80 billion, and taking into account some indexation - $ 130 billion.

    Already not even funny. It is clear that this is an ordinary PR, an attempt to earn cheap popularity among dill, nothing more ...
  9. Balamyt
    Balamyt 14 August 2014 08: 25
    +2
    We will reach the end in this matter and take away all assets

    To begin with, we would create our own! What a national chip not to create by ourselves, but to steal, pick up!
    Let's start by returning the so-called ukraine to the borders of 1913 for example ....
  10. Russian Alex
    Russian Alex 14 August 2014 08: 27
    +13
    Cunning, theft, begging is directly a national idea.
  11. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 14 August 2014 08: 27
    +3
    As the USSR debts to the West to pay, so only Russia, and we have nothing to do with it.
    And now roll out his lip. Roll back the non-rolling ones.
  12. Veteran of the Red Army
    Veteran of the Red Army 14 August 2014 08: 27
    +12
    In this case, Ukraine, before filing a lawsuit, will have to return to Russia those tens of billions of dollars,

    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/550/uavf309.jpg
  13. Same lech
    Same lech 14 August 2014 08: 29
    +7
    An inventory of everything that may belong to Ukraine will be carried out.


    It is necessary to carry out an inventory of what belongs to RUSSIA starting from PETER 1 ... to the SOVIET AUTHORITY (the annexed territories at the expense of RUSSIA, built factories, factories, cities, schools, kindergartens and then I think the bill will draw many billions) .... in general KIEV can initially be left without pants.
  14. Galandr
    Galandr 14 August 2014 08: 33
    +4
    Ehhh ... in our repertoire ... what to do, but just not normal work ... they can only yap.
  15. Sashko
    Sashko 14 August 2014 08: 36
    +1
    And such "experts" make up the government of "Independent". I have the impression that the government of Ukraine is a training ground for applicants (just like that, not students) planning to enter economic and diplomatic universities.
  16. Tigrus
    Tigrus 14 August 2014 08: 36
    +2
    Well, he took his finger out of one place and thinks about how Russia can sue the "Ukrainian assets" seven you know who .............!
  17. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 14 August 2014 08: 38
    +3
    Our people are wise and not in vain said: "Fools do not sow, they do not reap, they grow by themselves," and the Ukrainian people added (well, directly to the address of the maydanut minister): "D. and you will not argue against the people (even though you are a minister)! The great writer Bulgakov was right: Shvonders and Sharikovs crawl out of all the “cracks” during shocks.
  18. Rattenfanger
    Rattenfanger 14 August 2014 08: 38
    0
    They are stubborn .... What do they use, interesting? LSD?
  19. Hyperboreas
    Hyperboreas 14 August 2014 08: 40
    0
    Member let !!!! Crazy dogs !!!!!!!!!!!! Absolutely oh ... ate in the attack !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  20. Dazdranagon
    Dazdranagon 14 August 2014 08: 41
    +3
    I wonder if they are not afraid that we will file a lawsuit, and they will have to give us all the plants, factories, railways ... It seems that Ukraine is about to overtake the United States in the number of stupid politicians! laughing
  21. b.t.a.
    b.t.a. 14 August 2014 08: 41
    +1
    Apparently in Ukraine, the second round of the Russophobia competition has begun. Whoever shouts the loudest against Russia (and it doesn’t matter that he shouts yet another stupid thing) is the same patriotic one, and may even be allowed to lick the boot of the American master.
  22. ded100
    ded100 14 August 2014 08: 47
    +1
    What such "Ukrainian assets" will soon divide Ukraine into parts with such ministers and there will be none! Maybe what a cock's corner will remain And he has nothing to claim!
  23. bmv04636
    bmv04636 14 August 2014 08: 48
    +1
    Well, as always, when Russia paid its debts, let’s divide the property. Such is the essence of Ukrainians' debts (USSR) are the debts of Russia, and the property of the USSR is common in general, probably only dill should belong.
    And let everything be returned from the beginning, which was donated free of charge, as I understand it Outskirts, then only Zaporizhzhya region will remain.
  24. sanek0207
    sanek0207 14 August 2014 08: 50
    +1
    It is even possible to sell all of Ukraine in droves, along with joy and a bucket this will not block what they owe to Russia. They apparently have a nursery where they prepare idiots!
  25. MilesAth
    MilesAth 14 August 2014 08: 50
    +1
    They will return part of the debt of the former USSR (which Russia paid) plus gas debts (including a fine for non-extraction of gas), loans with interest, including a loan in 2013, plus damage for shelling the territory, plus payment for the placement of the Black Sea Fleet base (since Sevastopol was never transferred to Ukraine according to documents) - then we’ll talk (laugh) about who owes whom and how much.

    But in general, probably, they want free gas again ... Autumn is coming, winter is ... Well, like that. They are asking for a new thing, they do not know how fool
  26. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 14 August 2014 08: 59
    +1
    jumped, the brain has shifted
    they, which are completely bad, a revision of this issue means that other borders, such as
  27. IAlex
    IAlex 14 August 2014 09: 02
    +1
    The most important thing is that they do not forget about liabilities ...
  28. Mareman Vasilich
    Mareman Vasilich 14 August 2014 09: 04
    +2
    Rich in idiots Ukrainian land. Here, another hatched.
  29. Flinky
    Flinky 14 August 2014 09: 05
    +1
    Not a question, Svidomo, not a question. Eight areas screwed to you in 1922 - on a barrel. And then we’ll calculate who owes what to whom. We also know how to count pennies.
  30. Zomanus
    Zomanus 14 August 2014 09: 07
    +1
    There is such a word - "zaesh". Interestingly, Semerak knows him?
  31. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 14 August 2014 09: 10
    +1
    I don’t even want to comment on this stupidity, if Russia presents an invoice for paying debts from Ukraine, such a country as Ukraine will not, everything will go under the hammer.
  32. B.T.V.
    B.T.V. 14 August 2014 09: 30
    +1
    I am worried by another question: in our country, for everyone who has rolled out our lips for good, there are enough buttons, or is it cheaper to shorten ???
  33. Sochi
    Sochi 14 August 2014 09: 33
    +1
    We will calculate how much the Russian Empire, the USSR spent on dill, and let them return so independent ...
  34. Chelyabinsk
    Chelyabinsk 14 August 2014 09: 34
    +1
    I'm wondering, where were the dill when Russia was paying off the debts of the USSR? When we had a hard time and we, as legal successors, paid off the debts of the USSR, none of the CIS states offered us financial assistance. And as soon as Russia "got off its knees," quirky dill was immediately found, which have some claims to us. The dill completely lost their advice, although they did not have it ...
  35. Pollang
    Pollang 14 August 2014 09: 35
    +1
    Interesting guys, when the USSR collapsed, no one wanted to recognize debts, everyone began to keep budgets without losses, they printed money as much as they wanted, and after 23 years they remembered when all the debts were paid. So only Ukrainians can, why other countries are silent about the legacy of the USSR? Apparently there is still a conscience.
  36. annodomene
    annodomene 14 August 2014 09: 38
    +2
    First, let part of the debts of the USSR be returned, and then ..., then you can listen to what they bleated there laughing
  37. olegkrava
    olegkrava 14 August 2014 09: 42
    +1
    Quote: Sashko
    And such "experts" make up the government of "Independent". I have the impression that the government of Ukraine is a training ground for applicants (just like that, not students) planning to enter economic and diplomatic universities.

    Applicants, this is who has the brain, and the government of the outskirts is the proto-enclosure for them, only the cerebellum and the one in the sacral region, in the same city. And in that place where the brain should be, there is a solo with garlic. They do not need to learn. Proto-Ukrainians at the genetic level perfectly possess the ability to steal, knock on their neighbors, crap neighbors, and complain about their unenviable share. Well, to demand from everyone, everything and a lot, but the main thing for nothing.
  38. skeptic2999
    skeptic2999 14 August 2014 09: 45
    +1
    The Balts are not silent. demand compensation for the years of "occupation", although Latvia (Livonia) and Estonia (Estonia) under Peter the Great, one suzerain - Russia bought from another suzerain of Sweden.
  39. 41 REGION
    41 REGION 14 August 2014 09: 55
    +1
    Quote: MilesAth

    But in general, probably, they want free gas again ... Autumn is coming, winter is ... Well, like that. They are asking for a new thing, they do not know how fool


    Let their gas produce shitty, they better get it hi
  40. Vend
    Vend 14 August 2014 10: 11
    0
    Trying to take advantage of the situation. Justice is in the pocket of the USA, all justice, even the Hague. Quickly orientated bastard. I did not take into account one thing, that the courts can last forever, you can start it in favor, and finish in one place, very unsightly. The situation is volatile.
  41. DV69
    DV69 14 August 2014 10: 20
    0
    So they waited for when Russia will pay off the debts of the USSR. Now we can talk about the property of the Ukrainian SSR.
  42. Fuzeler
    Fuzeler 14 August 2014 10: 30
    +1
    They simply reassure their electorate: they say, nothing, we put pressure on these Russians, we can stand it, everything will be fine. Especially in winter.
  43. doxtop
    doxtop 14 August 2014 10: 44
    0
    But this minetstra doesn’t want to suck tuna !? And in full! )))
  44. bogdan4ik
    bogdan4ik 14 August 2014 10: 49
    +1
    To the tens of billions of dollars mentioned in the article, you need to add hundreds of billions of dollars invested in Ukraine as a subject of the Soviet Union. Such a calculation has already been carried out in relation to the Baltic states - in what condition it became part of the USSR and in what state it came out. It turned out that the smelly Baltic of Russia owes almost a trillion dollars for the development and maintenance of all that the EU has ruined. Ukraine will owe one trillion, but it will be economically stronger than the Baltic in a heap. It so happens that Semerak, initiating a lawsuit, will be forced to work out debts up to the 100th tribe of his future children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren. What are they full of fools in Kiev :-)
  45. Russian Uzbek
    Russian Uzbek 14 August 2014 11: 09
    0
    it's all fiction! you should not write this for one simple reason: all this is a transfusion from empty to empty, from the USSR Banderland can only get its PAYMENT OF DEBTS, which, by the way, Russia has already paid!
    truly say: when God wants to punish, he destroys the mind
  46. antikilller55
    antikilller55 14 August 2014 11: 21
    0
    Dill would not forget about their debts better.
  47. wladimir
    wladimir 14 August 2014 12: 55
    0
    the roof slid down, they completely became dumb from independence, and they’ll sue
  48. Gambit
    Gambit 14 August 2014 13: 13
    +1
    And we will answer them like that!
  49. boforss
    boforss 14 August 2014 20: 04
    0
    Wow! Another clown. Wastes time, paper and air. Dozens of international legal acts regulating these issues were signed and ratified long ago. And today Russia remains the only legal successor to both the debts and assets of the former USSR. Interestingly, he will be suing the "Paris Club" too, in which these acts were signed. So another concussion ...