17 flying secret "Junkers"

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The experimental German bomber was out of reach for fighters of its time.

16 August 1944, a Junkers test pilot Siegfried Holzbauer, for the first time, lifted an unusual machine in all respects. It was the Junkers Ju-287 - the world's first bomber with a forward swept wing, and with turbojet engines.

The end of 1942. Before the collapse of the German group at Stalingrad - a month and a half. And until the end of the war - a long two and a half years. The top leadership of the Third Reich and the Wehrmacht command have no thoughts so far that the strategic situation will not change in Germany’s favor. Moreover, the development of new types of weapons and military equipment, including aviationto use them to capture new territories. It was then that the chief aerodynamicist of the Junkers company, Hans Wocke, received a responsible task.

17 flying secret "Junkers"The candidacy was not chosen by chance. This talented engineer and designer was the closest assistant of the well-known aviation specialist Brunolf Baade (Brunolf Baade, 1904 – 1969, professor, Ph.D., chief designer of Junkers jets, working in this field since 1936). The essence of the task assigned to Herr Vokk is to develop a draft bomber, which would not be equal in the world. Equipped with four Jumo-004 turbojets, the plane was supposed to have an unprecedented speed for that time — at least 800 kilometers per hour.

Fantasy? Let's not rush to conclusions. The Ministry of Aviation approved the project, which received the name Ju-287. Its main feature was that it decided to use the wing of variable sweep. Experimental studies were carried out with both forward and reverse swept wings. Although the first and second had their flaws ...

So, 16 August 1944, test pilot Siegfried Holzbauer from Brandis airfield near Leipzig for the first time lifted an unusual machine into the air. It was the Junkers Ju-287 - the world's first bomber with a backward swept wing. All such flights were performed 17.

The new "Junkers" showed unprecedented speed, especially for its class of cars - 780 kilometers per hour. This meant that it was virtually inaccessible to all Western fighters. The bomber's flight distance exceeded one and a half thousand kilometers, climb rate - 580 meters per minute. The length of the device - 18,3 meters, height - 4,7, wingspan - 20,11 meters. The weight of the unloaded aircraft - 12,5 tons, equipped with - 20.

A big plus with the swept wing, the Ju-287, is the placement of a bomb bay 4,6 long meters in front of the center section, near the center of gravity. Bombolyuk could hold up to four tons of bombs. The gun-gun armament of the aircraft was two MG-131 (Maschinengewehr 131) machine gun machine guns of 13 millimeters caliber (developed by Rheinmetall AG 1938). The bomber was equipped with four Jumo-004B engines. The entire fuel supply was located in tanks located in the fuselage.

To speed up the production of "two hundred and eighty-seven," ready-made units from serial aircraft went into action. However, the forward swept wing, which reached 25 degrees on the leading edge, was designed specifically for the new car. They took the fuselage from the Heinkel's Non-177AZ as a basis, and the tail plumage was borrowed from the Ju-188. Since the chassis was hidden in the wing, which required increased rigidity, it was difficult to find a way out by using non-removable supports. A two-wheeled nose strut chassis, without further ado, was taken from the captured American bomber Liberator B-24. The main racks with wheels borrowed from the transport plane Ju-352 Herkules. As they say, with the world on a thread. All these and other improvements were made in April 1944.

In May, a meeting was held in Obersalzburg, 1944, at which the progress of work on the Ju-287 project was discussed. The leading designer of the company “Junkers”, Professor Hertel, reported to the Reich Minister of Aviation Göring: the assembly is over, in the coming days the aircraft will be delivered to Brandis airfield. Three months later, the Ju-287 first flew.

Interestingly, studies carried out much later at our Central Hydro-Aerodynamic Institute (TsAGI) showed that the development of a stall flow in the root of the backward-swept wing can be weakened by installing horizontal tail feathers in front of the wing or using the front wing gush. By the way, these ideas have already been implemented in our days on an experimental aircraft of the OKB Design Bureau. Sukhoi Su-47 "Berkut".

However, the path from the Herr Vokke project to its implementation was not easy. In October 1944, Goering ordered to stop work on the bomber, and all efforts to refocus on the release of air defense fighters. But at the start of 1945, a new order unexpectedly followed: to prepare high-volume aircraft production.

Work on the experienced Ju-287 V2 and the prototype of the series continued in small Junkers factories on the outskirts of Leipzig, near Brandis airfield. The wings of the Ju-287 V2 remained the same as on the first plane, but the fuselage, the plumage and the chassis, which completely retract into the fuselage, were new. In this case, the wheel of the front pillar when turning turned 90 degrees.

There were only two crew members at the Ju-287 V1 flying lab, the Ju-287 V2 and V3 had three people each, and they were located in the press cage on the last car. On the V3 variant, a tail tower with two already mentioned 13-mm MG-131 remote-controlled machine guns was provided. They were aimed at the target with a periscope sight. When the flight to Brandis ended, the Ju-287 V1 was overtaken to the Rechlin airbase, where the tests continued.

In preparing the serial production at the stands of the Junkers factories, they tested various units and systems, including fuel. At the same time, various evolutions in flight were modeled, including upward with a keel. The hydraulic system was also thoroughly researched, taking into account the alleged damage, pressure jerks and unnormalized overloads. The design and technological documentation was fully prepared and partially sent to the plants.

Despite the bombings and in this connection the permanent relocations of enterprises throughout the country, in the production units lay units and assemblies of aircraft ready for installation. On the territory of Saxony, Anhalt and Thuringia, dozens of small factories and plants were ready for the start of the mass production of Ju-287.

But time worked inexorably against the authors and creators of the project. It so happened that it was in Saxony, near the town of Torgau, on the banks of the Elbe 25 on April 1945, that Soviet and American troops met for the first time. In the world, this meeting was perceived as evidence that until the collapse of the "thousand-year Reich" and the end of the war there were only a few days left.

After the capitulation of Germany, the secrets of the four-engine, reactive Junkers-287 ceased to be so. They took possession of the Anglo-American allies. Got such a plane and the Soviet side. Later our specialists got acquainted with the reports of test pilots Pangerz and Wendt about the flights made by 8 and 13 of September 1944 of the year. And after the war, in 1947-m at the airfield of the Moscow Region LII, the former test pilot of the company "Junkers", and then the plant number 1, Paul Yulge said that he also performed several flights on this plane.

Be that as it may, in stories German and world aviation Ju-287 remained as an experimental aircraft of the original design, although some of the solutions found were implemented and improved later - at new stages in the development of world aviation.
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  1. -5
    16 August 2014 07: 37
    Exotic Germans had enough, which can not be said about full-fledged cars.
    Goering buried the Luftwaffe before the war, abandoning the program for creating strategic bombers.
    In fact, Goering was a pest, possibly recruited by foreign intelligence.
    1. anomalocaris
      +15
      16 August 2014 11: 17
      Not everything is so simple. The Germans quite developed heavy bombers. But everything was decided by the economy. The cost of one B-17 strategic bomber for Germany exceeded the cost of four fighters or two front-line bombers. Again, they can only be effective with massive use, that is, thousands of such machines must be built. The Germans tried to solve the problem by creating a heavy four-engine diving bomber He-177. However, the task was not feasible at that time.
      Thus, Goering faced a dilemma: either to have several thousand heavy bombers who could neither gain air supremacy, nor provide air defense, nor provide quality support to ground forces (the fact that American strategists bombed the positions of German troops in late 1944 and 1945 , says only that the Americans had a lot of money, and German fighters could not resist them). Or to have a balanced Air Force, but without the possibility of deep raids on enemy territory. The choice is pretty obvious ...
      1. Wizard
        -22
        16 August 2014 14: 24
        The Third Reich, like the USSR were American projects, loans and equipment went to both countries, Ford created both GAZ and Opel, but America insured that fighting dogs did not bite it - therefore, there was no strategic aviation in both countries, and there were roads to Chukotka and still not, despite the huge engineering and railway troops.
        1. anomalocaris
          +12
          16 August 2014 14: 42
          You are very confusing something. Before the war, the USSR practically did not take American loans. And not because he did not need, but because they did not give. On the contrary, the West, and not just the USA, set the condition for deliveries only payment in hard currency or gold. Plus, you are discounting the Great Depression, and it was she who made it possible to purchase a lot of technology and production.
          There is no road to Chukotka and is not expected in the foreseeable future. You see, it is on the verge of modern technical capabilities, respectively, its value is prohibitive, but the return will be scanty.
          1. Wizard
            -1
            16 August 2014 15: 55
            You just don’t know - type ALBERT CAN GOSPROEKT into a search and find out about 2500 approximately factories built with American funds, like the Stalingrad Tractor Tractor, for example, assembled in America, and then disassembled and reassembled in Stalingrad. Equipment in kind is also a loan.
            The road to Chukotka is simply prohibited, but a comparable one in Alaska (2800 km) was built in about 41 years in a year, then it was brought to a gravel highway in 2 years. There is still good.
            The priming road 900 km Chita - Khabarovsk at 41 was built in 4 months by local forces in general, so there are no "edges of modern possibilities" there.
            1. anomalocaris
              +7
              16 August 2014 16: 42
              Well, where does the HIRED architect with friends and loans to the state? There were just no loans, nor were investments. The Soviet Union paid either hard currency or concessions, from which they later barely kicked back.
              I repeat once again, in the late 20s a great depression erupted and in the USSR quite a lot of qualified engineers and workers rushed for the best share. And not only from the USA.
              You somewhat confuse military and economic needs, in addition, the road to Chukotka will go a little longer, and there is no special need for it. In winter, it will still not be passable, and during the navigation period it will be easier and cheaper to get there by sea.
              1. Wizard
                -6
                16 August 2014 17: 02
                Quote: anomalocaris
                in the late 20s, a great depression erupted, and quite a lot of skilled engineers and workers rushed for the best share in the USSR.
                And so that it was where migrant workers took work factories with them ... that’s where the example is for Tajiks, otherwise they only drag drugs, if there isn’t a blast furnace or an aircraft factory.
                1. anomalocaris
                  +5
                  16 August 2014 17: 25
                  Last time, I ask you not to confuse the employee who was hired to build any object and the ownership of the funds for which this object is being built.
                  Do not force me once again to be disappointed in humanity.
            2. +3
              16 August 2014 22: 29
              Quote: Wizard
              The road to Chukotka is simply prohibited, but a comparable one in Alaska (2800 km) was built in about 41 years in a year, then it was brought to a gravel highway in 2 years. There is still good.
              The priming road 900 km Chita - Khabarovsk at 41 was built in 4 months by local forces in general, so there are no "edges of modern possibilities" there.

              Alaska has a "winter road" other roads, and even more gravel is a bluff! At the expense of Chita-Khabarovsk, he served in the 80s exactly in the middle and no road! Even memories! By the way, I flew all over the area, and even an abandoned road is perfectly visible from the air! So only winter roads operated in this region!
              1. Wizard
                0
                17 August 2014 08: 49
                http://gruzavtoperevozki.ru/ankoridzh-ferbenks
                use the search
                Even before the October Revolution of 1917, in parallel with the Trans-Siberian Railway, they began to build a highway, which was called “Old Moscow Tract”, but brought it only to Chita - a revolution happened [3].

                Later, before the Great Patriotic War, the “Old Moscow Highway” highway was updated (reconstructed) by order of the Commander of the Far Eastern Front.

                Starting to get acquainted with the affairs of the front and operational plans, Apanasenko discovered that along most of the Trans-Siberian Railway with its dozens of bridges and tunnels there is no reliable road that runs parallel to the railway. This circumstance made the troops of the front extremely vulnerable, since the railway line sometimes passed quite close to the border. It was enough for the Japanese to blow up several bridges or tunnels in order to deprive the army of the front and the freedom of maneuver and reliable supply. Apanasenko immediately ordered the construction of a reliable road with a length of almost a thousand kilometers, using not only the construction units of the front, but also the population of the surrounding areas. The deadline for this enormous work was set as extremely short as five months. Looking ahead, it must be said that the order of Apanasenko was carried out, and the road from Khabarovsk to the Kuibyshevka-Vostochnaya station was built by September 1, 1941.

                The road in the forest is completely overgrown in 20 years.
                1. anomalocaris
                  0
                  17 August 2014 15: 31
                  Oh well.
                  Interestingly, how many cars were there in the Urals before 1917? The author of this writing, which you are trying to give as an example, brazenly twitches, interchanging two completely different concepts - a highway and a highway.
                  1. anomalocaris
                    +1
                    18 August 2014 17: 53
                    Well, they took and removed ...
                    And such a discussion was planned.
                2. 0
                  18 August 2014 00: 32
                  Yes, I read about this road. What the "great strategist" Tukhachevsky could not do, Apanasenko did in a few months.
      2. +3
        16 August 2014 22: 25
        Quote: anomalocaris
        Goering faced a dilemma

        There was no dilemma. The Germans were preparing for a lightning war on the continent, and under it they were preparing forces and weapons. Tank wedges, which cleared the road dive. At the same time, Stuck placed 50kg bombs in a circle with a diameter of 30m. From the explosion of an 152mm projectile near the tank, it turned over. This was my grandfather, a participant in the war, told me.
        Quote: anomalocaris
        and German fighters could not resist them
        Me-262 could. but Hitler needed to bomb the advancing Soviet troops. As a result, neither the fighter, nor the bomber, and the idea of ​​the fighter-bomber defamed.
        The politician Hitler laid the foundation for the failure of the campaign, allowing the British to be evacuated from Dunkirk.
        1. anomalocaris
          +1
          17 August 2014 04: 41
          Well, well.
          1. Blitzkrieg is the only war strategy that gave the Third Reich a chance to win. Any variant of the war of attrition with a powerful colonial empire, whether Britain or France, definitely led to collapse.
          2. Naturally on land. Germany is still a continental country. Or do you propose alternative geography?
          3. So, after all, dropped the Yu-87? Bombs or 152 mm shells?
          4. Could not. The Me-262 had, in fact, one advantage over the Allied propeller-driven fighters - a large maximum speed. But in terms of dynamics and maneuverability, he was inferior to them. And there were few of them, and there was not enough kerosene.
          5. Once again I will repeat. Hitler suffered from severe Anglophilia. He was not going to fight with Britain, he wanted to agree with her, but they just threw him.
      3. 0
        18 August 2014 11: 37
        The Ne-177 was completely unsuitable for the role of a strategic bomber.
        In the 30s there were a number of projects that Goering froze.
        It's not about the economy; all of Europe worked for Germany.
        The rejection of a number of promising projects at the end of the 30s made the Luftwaffe almost helpless by 44 years old.
        There is obvious sabotage.
        1. anomalocaris
          0
          18 August 2014 17: 43
          And who says it’s good? The four-engine, distant, dive bomber at that time was a utopia. By the way, there is such an anecdote: Tupolev, when he was sitting in a sharashka, was instructed to design such an aircraft. He calculated it and explained to comrade Beria in intelligible Russian that such a plane was not possible. But this is really a joke.
          Tupolev calculated a similar option and quite justifiably reported on his failure. No more.
          Although the idea was not bad ...
          1. 0
            18 August 2014 19: 41
            Presumably, German engineers also understood this.
            Blitzkrieg, not Blitzkrieg, but the USSR industry was also beyond the Urals, the Germans knew about this before the war, there were a number of Ural-Bomber projects just to solve the issue of neutralization ...
            1. anomalocaris
              0
              19 August 2014 15: 45
              They understood when they made the first plane.
        2. +1
          19 August 2014 06: 29
          The lack of comparatively mass training of pilots made helpless Luftwaffles, since 1943, an additional 1000-2000 pilots on conventional piston fighters, rather than jet prodigies, are needed.
          1. anomalocaris
            0
            20 August 2014 15: 48
            Ek you them ... Just hit the sky with your finger. The Luftwaffe, until the end of the war, was very combat-ready.
    2. +5
      16 August 2014 13: 48
      Quote: Ivan Tarasov
      Goering buried the Luftwaffe before the war, abandoning the program for creating strategic bombers.
      It is not Goering's fault, or rather not only him. The plan was to conduct "blitz wars," not wars of attrition, and they needed first-class battlefield aviation, which was done. And the choice in favor of the "blitz war" is explained by an attempt to save money, since during the implementation of the plans it was possible to achieve quick military, political and economic results ... which, in principle, they achieved at the first stage. The first "puncture" - England did not capitulate, and the Wehrmacht could not carry out a real full-scale amphibious operation, again for economic reasons, the German industry could not prepare the required number of landing craft in time ... And the main "puncture" of course was the war with The USSR shouldn't have gone into the blitzkrieg theory ...
      1. anomalocaris
        +4
        16 August 2014 14: 34
        And no other options besides the "blitz war" suited the Germans. The only chance for the Wehrmacht to win was the option with a lightning-fast defeat of the enemy army. In any variant of a protracted war, the Third Reich was losing. What the First World War clearly showed.
        The "puncture with England" is more connected with the Anglophilia of Adolf Aloizych Schicklgruber and others like him, rather than with the inability of the Wehrmacht to carry out a landing operation on the island. The funny thing is, after Dunkirk, England simply had neither the forces nor the weapons capable of stopping the German ground forces. A couple of divisions would have been enough to push what was left. But Hitler did not give up the hope of reaching an agreement, so I don’t believe that Hess flew to England on his own initiative. Read Churchill, in what words he describes the state on the island in the period from Dunkirk to June 22, 1941 ...
        1. +1
          16 August 2014 22: 44
          Quote: anomalocaris
          after Dunkirk, England simply had neither the forces nor the armament capable of stopping the ground forces of Germany.

          How freely you "forget" about the fleet of Her Majesty. And it was a force capable of crushing any German invasion force.
          Quote: anomalocaris
          A couple of divisions would be enough to crush what remained. But
          these divisions needed to force such a smallness as the English Channel, where the British fleet dominated.
          So no options.
          1. Alf
            0
            17 August 2014 09: 33
            Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
            How freely you "forget" about the fleet of Her Majesty. And it was a force capable of crushing any German invasion force.

            You also forget about the power of the Luftwaffe in the 40th year. The losses of the British fleet during the evacuation from Dunkirk showed this very much. And about the loss of the royal fleet from the actions of German aircraft in Crete, too, should not be forgotten. It is also worth remembering Malta, where, due to the actions of the Luftwaffe, the British were forced to remove all ships of the class larger than a destroyer from the island.
            1. 0
              18 August 2014 19: 30
              After Dunkirk there was the "Battle of England". The Luftwaffe lost over England in 1940, from July to October, a third of its bombers and a quarter of its fighters (a total of about 2000 combat aircraft). All pilots shot down over the sea perished, over land - were captured. The British lost about 1500 fighters, but
              parachute jumpers usually escaped.
              One could forget about the air supremacy of the Luftwaffe. And in the same year, the British bombers launched night raids on Germany.
          2. anomalocaris
            +1
            17 August 2014 10: 14
            How freely you "forget" about the fleet of Her Majesty. And it was a force capable of crushing any German invasion force.

            Yeah. In the battle of Berlin.
            these divisions needed to force such a smallness as the English Channel, where the British fleet dominated.
            So no options.

            They could have made it very difficult. But stop it ... You see, the English Channel is a rather narrow strait. Then there already existed artillery systems capable of shooting it all, the Germans had them in stock. The Luftwaffe, too, would not stand aside. So the Germans were quite capable of creating a corridor free of the British fleet. And this is subject to the supply of resources from the USSR, that is, in the absence of raw hunger.
            And the level and condition of the Grand Fleet can be judged by such moments as the landing of the Germans in Norway, the breakthrough of the Tirpitz across the English Channel, the hunt for the Bismarck ...
            So the Germans had chances, there were.
            1. 0
              18 August 2014 03: 17
              So the Germans were quite capable of creating a corridor free of the British fleet ... So the Germans had chances, there were.


              It would be if the British fought alone. In the event of a landing on the island, their former colony could well support the British. And then the Germans could immediately give up.
              1. anomalocaris
                0
                18 August 2014 16: 03
                Is this by chance not the USA?
                If so, I will greatly disappoint you. Have you heard of the "Monroe Doctrine"? So, up until the moment when Hitler declared war on the USA, no one was going to fight there.
          3. +2
            17 August 2014 10: 45
            Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
            And it was a force capable of defeating any German invasion force.
            The realities of that war showed that the fleet in the area of ​​operations of the enemy's bombed aircraft, without a decent cover from the air, does not live long ...
            And in that situation, the German aviation completely controlled the "channel"
      2. +2
        16 August 2014 14: 46
        They had problems with the engines, distributed according to the order. The logic was simple - why do we need bombers with 2-4 engines, it’s better we will build several fighters and bombers. Especially since no one held the Americans for rivals, New York was not going to bomb, and the fact that the industry was developing in the USSR beyond the Urals, they did not believe this, considered it was nonsense. And they had enough long-range bombers projects, but their construction was not considered a priority. And then it was too late.
        1. anomalocaris
          +2
          16 August 2014 14: 58
          Even consider them their top priority task, the Third Reich was not able to build the necessary number of heavy bombers (all the same, the strategic term I consider is not entirely correct in relation to aircraft with B-17 characteristics). All the same, Germany is a continental country, and the land army for it was and will be a priority and a vital necessity. This England can afford to be rather disregard for the army - the navy makes landing extremely difficult, although possible. And during the preparation of the enemy for the landing, much can be done. For example, redirect his blow to the other side. Which, incidentally, happened in 1941.
        2. +1
          16 August 2014 18: 57
          Quote: JIPO
          . And they had enough long-range bombers projects,

          At the beginning of 1942. The Junkers design bureau in Prague has started the development of the six-motor version Ju.290 with a wing span of 47m and an area of ​​214sq.m. The plane was conceived in the variants of a transportable sea reconnaissance and bomber. The propulsion system consisted of six BMW-801Ds with a takeoff power of 1700hp. The chassis received a couple of main struts and now consisted of four two-wheel struts, retracted into the engine nacelles. As a transport Ju.390-V1 could carry a load of 10 tons with 34000 liters of fuel, which ensured a flight range at a speed of 330 km / h at an altitude of 2000 m to 8000 km. The aircraft was also planned to be used as an air carrier for the Ju.290a. Such tests were successfully carried out near Praga in 1944. After several short-range flights, the plane from Mont-de-Marcin reached a point 20 km off the US coast north of New York and successfully returned to base.
      3. 0
        16 August 2014 16: 50
        That's right. Hitler relied on ground forces supported by
        front-line aviation. And he found himself without a "long arm".
        The Americans, on the contrary, began to build an army from the "long arm" - strategic bombers and
        high-altitude escort fighters, and only then switched to tanks. It just so happened.
        The British also invested all their energy in the Air Force. Already in 1940 the release of military aircraft in
        England exceeded German. Two- and 4-engine bombers bombed the Rhine cities
        (and Berlin!) as early as 1940.
        1. +2
          16 August 2014 23: 08
          Quote: voyaka uh
          Hitler relied on ground forces supported by front-line aviation. And he found himself without a "long arm".
          When the Germans understood this, they answered asymmetrically: they built the Fau-4000 near 2 and then the A-10 against the States.
      4. +1
        16 August 2014 22: 38
        Quote: svp67
        The Wehrmacht could not carry out a real full-scale landing operation, again for economic reasons, the German industry could not timely prepare the proper amount of landing and landing equipment.

        Uh-uh, the landing was impossible for one simple reason: Germany could not ensure the superiority of its Navy and Luftwaffe in the landing area. For this it was necessary to neutralize the City Fleet. Which was beyond the power of Germany. Without this, the landing force is just meat. "Sea Lion" is a bluff for Joe's grandfather!
      5. 0
        18 August 2014 19: 54
        Battlefield aviation?
        And why, then, was the Messerschmitt project frozen for a six hundred and third engine?
        Yes, and the motor itself, it was too late to launch a series.
        By the year 43, Messerschmitt’s one hundred and nine had no prospects, if the engineers didn’t understand this, they all understood. They were not allowed to work, that's all.
        Why did the Henschel attack aircraft have a low priority, moreover, relied on captured French engines (theirs were even worse), and not on top-notch Japanese, the license for which, under this case, could be acquired in the late thirties?
        The development of jet aircraft was hindered by 3 years, for what purpose?
        The answer is unequivocal - Goering.
    3. +1
      16 August 2014 22: 49
      In the days of DIALUP modems, i.e. a long time ago, I downloaded the king, it seems that some Pole wrote "Luftwaffe 1946". And this "exoticism" would have become a concrete problem for us, if not for a simple Soviet soldier who strangled this reptile in time.
    4. 0
      19 August 2014 10: 26
      They had enough pests without Goering, and the most important of them was Hitler, with his idea Wunderwaffe tore the economy.
      A good example of how to win a warrior is to make downtime and a reliable tank like the USSR T-34 and stamp with thousands more than a couple of hundred tigers or panthers and the Air Force they have the same problems they lost they couldn’t ensure mass production
      1. anomalocaris
        0
        20 August 2014 15: 46
        Well, "Tigers" made about 2, and "Panthers" almost 000. So there is no need to juggle.
        Until the summer of 1944, military production in the Third Reich grew. It began to fall only after the Red Army crossed the USSR border.
  2. +7
    16 August 2014 07: 52
    Interesting article, did not know about such an aircraft. In Nazi Germany, many innovative ideas were proposed, but their implementation took place years later.
    1. +4
      16 August 2014 14: 52
      By the way, these guys built such an aircraft in captivity in the USSR, with wings of reverse sweep, but while they were building, it no longer corresponded in terms of its own specifications for the army. The Germans built it on their old luggage, they were not allowed to the latest research, so the plane quickly became obsolete, but many of our ideas and calculations were useful to our design bureaus when designing our non-German aircraft. There is a good book, I don’t remember the author and the name, but the works of German scientists were described there in captivity, with photos, with documents, so on the Tu-95 their turboprop engine still works and flies. Make it a prize - go home. They did.
      1. +1
        16 August 2014 18: 46
        Quote: JIPO
        They did.

        The creation of the TV-12 (NK-12) was the final work in which German experts participated. At the end of 1953, the last Germans left the factory. The final tests and the subsequent improvement of the engine were handled by the Soviet team under the leadership of N. D. Kuznetsov.
    2. Alf
      +2
      17 August 2014 09: 45
      Quote: Gray 43
      In Nazi Germany, many innovative ideas were proposed, but their implementation took place years later.

      That's right, but DRAW and MAKE TO FLY are two big differences. It is always possible to build 1-2 prototypes, but it is a little difficult to bring to a series. After the war, the Britons and we and the Americans also rushed to build aircraft with obr. Sweep. And where are they? The first FLYING samples appeared only in the 90s, and it turned out that they only fly "on computers". No, I certainly understand that the Germans are super genius in everything, but still, nevertheless ...
      1. anomalocaris
        0
        17 August 2014 10: 23
        Not quite right. A wing with a reverse sweep has almost worse control properties than a wing with a direct sweep. He has another problem - low strength, or rather, a large load on the console parts of the wing. This problem really was solved only by the 80s with the advent of a new generation of structural materials.
        1. Alf
          +1
          17 August 2014 18: 43
          Quote: anomalocaris
          Not quite right. A wing with a reverse sweep has almost worse control properties than a wing with a direct sweep. He has another problem - low strength, or rather, a large load on the console parts of the wing. This problem really was solved only by the 80s with the advent of a new generation of structural materials.

          And where would the Germans take these materials in the 42,43rd years?
          And about handling, so in the USSR before the war the Belyaev DB-LK bomber was built with reverse sweep. It seems that he flew without any problems, but the pilots of the Air Force Research Institute (and there was the Air Force elite) could not get him to take off normally, until it became clear that the climb must be made along a much steeper trajectory. It can be said that this is a trifle, but, I would have looked how many pilots in the course of the war this maneuver would have been killed, they were taught to gain altitude in a completely different way.
          1. anomalocaris
            0
            18 August 2014 03: 16
            Naturally nowhere. And control features has any aircraft.
  3. +2
    16 August 2014 08: 06
    Interesting and informative, it is a pity that the photo is only one. In general, it’s interesting that in Germany. During the war years a lot of projects were developed. It is clear that this did not help them, but still. the availability of education for all sectors of society, both secondary and higher, has done its job. Yes, here's another, in 1938, in Germany, a law was passed. about reducing the duration of studies. in institutes. from 9 to 8 years old ..... Maybe I read incorrectly, but I remember that it was 8 years old.
    1. +5
      16 August 2014 19: 10
      Quote: Free Wind
      Interesting and informative, it is a pity that the photo is only one.

      Here's another. A rocket booster is visible under the engine.
  4. +5
    16 August 2014 08: 42
    Many developments of German engineers ahead of their time. What is the project of the Zenger orbital bomber!
  5. tvn
    0
    16 August 2014 08: 56
    it seems that at the end of the war the German defense industry developed technologies for bargaining with the Anglo-American side.
    1. +5
      16 August 2014 11: 25
      Hardly for bargaining. In general, the Germans at that time were "pioneers" in many areas of technology, including military. And "thank God" that they did not manage to "bring to mind" many of their projects.
  6. +5
    16 August 2014 09: 54
    Let me add a little ... teach to insert pictures, please. There is something



    The final assembly of the Ju.287-V2 was disrupted by the Red Army approach. The unfinished aircraft was later transported to the Soviet Union. Fokke and several of his designers went there. The aircraft was completed in Podberezie in 1947. When the Red Army occupied the plant, the assembly of Ju.287-V3, which was supposed to be fully equipped, a pressurized cabin for three crew members and a tail turret with two 13 mm MG-131 machine guns, which remotely controlled using a periscope. One of the advantages of a wing with a reverse sweep was the ability to equip a capacious bomb bay directly in front of the front spar at the center of gravity of the aircraft. Up to 4 tons of bombs could be taken into the compartment.

    The pre-production Ju.287A-0 and aircraft of the first Ju.287A-1 series were to be equipped with BMW-003A-1 engines. Further planned Ju.287B-1 were to receive four HeS-011A, and Ju.287B-2 two BMW-018 with a thrust of 3500 kg, but no serious work on series B was carried out.

    The performance characteristics of the Ju.287-V3 (factory rating)

    Type - triple heavy bomber
    Engines - six BMW-003A-1 Sturm; axial turbojet, 800 kg thrust
    Armament:
    2 * 13 mm MG-131 machine gun in the tail remotely controlled turret
    bomb load up to 4 t
    Maximum speed with a weight of 36 kg:
    815 km / h at sea level
    860 km / h at an altitude of 5000 m
    780 km / h at 11 m
    Cruising speed at 80% thrust:
    715 km / h at sea level
    790 km / h at 7000 m
    Range of flight:
    with 4 tons of bombs - 1600 km
    with 3 tons of bombs - 1900 km
    with 2 tons of bombs - 2100 km
    Lifting Time:
    6000 m - 10,5 min
    10 000 m - 33 min
    The weight:
    empty - 11 930 kg
    maximum take-off - 21 500 kg
    Dimensions:
    wing span - 20,1 m
    length - 18,6 m
    wing area - 61 sq.m
    1. +8
      16 August 2014 10: 14
      from the book by W. Green "Combat aircraft of the Third Reich"
      1. +4
        16 August 2014 11: 32
        It was originally intended to equip the Ju.287-V2 with four HeS-011A engines with a thrust of 1300 kg in pairs under the wing. Due to the delay in working on them, Junkers stopped using six BMW-003A-1 engines with a thrust of 800 kg each. There were two options for installing engines: the first of three engines in a common bundle under the wing; the second in a pair of engines under the wings and two engines in the nose of the fuselage modeled on V1. For the second prototype aircraft, the first layout was chosen, and for the third aircraft and the installation lot, a second engine layout was planned.
  7. +1
    16 August 2014 12: 34
    Good article and thank you for the addition
  8. +4
    16 August 2014 13: 43
    Quote: Ivan Tarasov
    Exotic Germans had enough, which can not be said about full-fledged cars.


    You look like a sour ...
    Yu-87, 88, Me-109, Foker- is this not fully ????

    Thanks to the author ... I thought that the reverse sweep is a notion of late time.
    Once again, you pay tribute to the Germans. great techno.
  9. +4
    16 August 2014 13: 59
    And here is the same photo of an interesting aircraft taken in the USSR in 1949 at one of the airfields. Junkers? There is no "Alekseev's plane" "140", but made on the basis of the Junkers plane and with the involvement of specialists from this company ...
  10. +1
    16 August 2014 14: 04
    Here is more detailed and more interesting:
    http://topwar.ru/15207-junkers-zadom-napered-ju-287.html
  11. Witch
    +1
    16 August 2014 14: 41
    Quote: Wizard
    Ford created ... Opel


    Bullshit ... Opel existed and was formed much earlier than Ford. In addition, in the 20s he was smoked by Ford rival General Motors ...
    1. Wizard
      +2
      16 August 2014 16: 01
      Nothing that Hitler awarded Ford the Order of the German Eagle - the highest award for foreigners before the war ... and for what else besides supporting and supplying the automotive industry? And the distribution of shares is another matter.
      1. 0
        17 August 2014 18: 02
        Henry Ford was a staunch anti-Semite. Wrote a book about the world
        Jewish conspiracy and admired Hitler. For this, Hitler awarded him.
  12. +4
    16 August 2014 15: 12
    The best warriors in Europe were always Germans and we, Russians. But we, apart from the highest moral motivation, also conceptually followed them, following the Russian weapons principles (sacred by our craftsmen and designers, which are still observed) - simplicity, reliability, power.
    1. +2
      17 August 2014 08: 43
      Quote: crasever
      The best warriors in Europe have always been Germans and we Russians.
      Oh, how debatable ... Many who managed to visit Europe as the best warriors are the Vikings, Swiss, British, Swedes, French ... Consider all the nations inhabiting the old woman - Europe excelled ...
      1. Alf
        +1
        17 August 2014 09: 49
        Quote: svp67
        Quote: crasever
        The best warriors in Europe have always been Germans and we Russians. Oh, how debatable ... Many who managed to visit Europe as the best warriors are the Vikings, Swiss, British, Swedes, French ... Consider all the nations inhabiting the old woman - Europe excelled ...

        Yes, only these "best warriors of Europe" were beaten by ordinary Russian soldiers with enviable consistency.
  13. +2
    16 August 2014 20: 57
    I will add the best designers of all time were Germans and Russians
  14. +3
    16 August 2014 20: 59
    The German aviation industry (designers + industry) in wartime in many ways overtook time in aviation. Though the enemies that remained them
  15. 0
    16 August 2014 22: 53
    This is the first source that announces U-287 flights. Previously, I met data, only about design and prototype work on this aircraft.
    Thanks to the Soviet soldier for stopping them.
  16. pinecone
    0
    16 August 2014 23: 23
    Quote: Wizard
    The Third Reich, like the USSR were American projects, loans and equipment went to both countries, Ford created both GAZ and Opel ...


    The German company Opel was founded in 1862. as a sewing machine company. Subsequently, became widely known as a manufacturer of bicycles and then automobiles. In 1931 acquired by General Motors, an American company.
  17. +2
    16 August 2014 23: 25
    The forward sweep idea hasn't died. The Americans checked it, but they refused further work. Ours are working on the S-47 "Berkut" as a flying laboratory.
    But recently there was an infa that, after being finalized on the new AVUs, there will be aircraft with folding wings of reverse sweep made using stealth technology. Maybe it's just a disinformation, but the idea is extremely fruitful.
    1. +1
      17 August 2014 19: 54
      Only a physicist is able to justify the design features of how the polarization of the aircraft body is formed during the reverse sweep of the wing and in the classical and generally swept wing. One thing can be said that this cannot be solved at the level of aerodynamic processes and the analysis can and should be done at a completely different level of concepts and justifications.
    2. 0
      17 August 2014 23: 36
      Can someone explain what is the advantage of reverse sweep over ordinary?
      1. +1
        18 August 2014 00: 31
        We need to take the theory of the wing as a basis. Only now, modern and ever increasing requirements for flight quality have led to the fact that the aircraft as such cannot fly equally well in low-potential and high-potential modes, as well as at different altitudes and, especially, during maneuvering phases in flight. So it turns out that the theory of the wing generally satisfies the flight conditions at up to sound speeds, at least in the initial part of the scale. However, at speeds in excess of sound, wing theory as such does not work. Why? Because there are active processes of ionization of the surface of the outflow of L.A., as a result of which thermal physical thresholds appear that affect the quality criteria of the materials of which the aircraft is made.
        Furthermore . The growth of desires to increase or maintain the so-called quality of flights with an increase in payload, creates an unsolvable problem of proportional growth in takeoff weight and, accordingly, an increase in fuel weight, etc. So. Modern designers continue to consider the flight of aircraft on the basis of aerodynamic theory, which means that at high speeds they are absolutely unable to carry out a comprehensive analysis of all physical. phenomena. Therefore, everything is carried out in the old fashioned way and only in a purely experimental way. In fact, if the wings are arranged in the classical form, then there is an order of distribution of magnetic force fluxes in such a way that at high speeds the potential difference generated on the body of the aircraft causes, "according to Poincaré", a force, which is called such, which makes the aircraft rotate towards the corresponding known rule. And the wings hold or distribute magnetic interactions in such a way that the transverse potential difference between the ends of the wings creates a balance with the longitudinal potential difference. And the plane flies more or less efficiently. But! If we create a reverse sweep of the wing, then theoretically, at supersonic flight speeds, the aircraft body will receive a completely different configuration of interaction of longitudinal and transverse magnetic fluxes. Therefore, the loads on the aircraft body will be somewhat different. Actually, in theory, an airplane wing should look like a bird's wing. Half wing - For low speeds with forward sweep, and wing floor - outward with normal. This will ensure the quality of flight at different speeds. But all this is nonsense, since the modern design of engines does not effectively use a whole range of physical effects to ensure effective flight. It should be borne in mind that this is purely my personal reasoning. So don't judge me harshly.
        1. 0
          18 August 2014 13: 58
          Thank. Roughly understandable.
          I did not think about the reverse sweep of the wings of birds.
          1. +1
            18 August 2014 14: 24
            If I may, I add that any screw, propeller, and, accordingly, turbine have boundary limits for the rotation of the rotor, that is, the rotating part. This means that no matter how much additional power is applied to the rotor shaft, it cannot be unwound anymore. This means that the productivity of the hydro-gas-dynamic flow cannot be increased, and accordingly, the flight efficiency of the Aircraft cannot be improved. And modern scientists cannot even mean this problem because it cannot be solved at the level of aerodynamic problems. This means that, having solved this problem, the designer will encounter a new one, which is already directly related to the fact that there will be questions of strength and, again, those that depend on the direction of sweep of the wing, etc.
            I will say right away that we decided this very key problem, which removes the limitation of rotor rotation, as a theoretical problem. But a new one arose. It lies in the fact that it is very difficult to explain to people what they are not ready to perceive.
            1. anomalocaris
              0
              18 August 2014 16: 08
              M-yeah ...
              How badly you are taught at school ...
              Not only that, here you are knocking down Jews from Pontalyk ...
            2. anomalocaris
              0
              22 August 2014 16: 36
              Baby, all this has long been decided. It’s just that you never go into the problems of aerodynamics. In fact, everything is very simple. When flowing around an aerodynamic surface at a certain speed, it overcomes the sound barrier. Accordingly, the aerodynamic focus shifts and the stall begins.
              A wing of at least a straight, at least a reverse sweep allows you to reduce the speed around the profile (do you know how the force vectors add up?), Respectively, they increase the speed of the aircraft until it is pulled into a tailspin.
              Something like that. And the fact that you spit is the delirium of a mad nymph.
  18. +2
    17 August 2014 10: 33
    anomalocaris (2) RU Today, 04:41 ↑ New
    Well, well.
    1. Blitzkrieg is the only war strategy that gave the Third Reich a chance to win. Any variant of the war of attrition with a powerful colonial empire, whether Britain or France, definitely led to collapse.
    2. Naturally on land. Germany is still a continental country. Or do you propose alternative geography?
    3. So, after all, dropped the Yu-87? Bombs or 152 mm shells?
    4. Could not. The Me-262 had, in fact, one advantage over the Allied propeller-driven fighters - a large maximum speed. But in terms of dynamics and maneuverability, he was inferior to them. And there were few of them, and there was not enough kerosene.
    5. Once again I will repeat. Hitler suffered from severe Anglophilia. He was not going to fight with Britain, he wanted to agree with her, but they just threw him.


    Bravo. I wanted to answer and here is your comment. One in one that I wanted to say.
  19. terrace777
    0
    17 August 2014 16: 07
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  20. 0
    17 August 2014 22: 48
    We can say that at that time the Germans were leaders in the field of jet aviation, they began their development earlier and applied them. It is not known how this would affect the course of events.
    1. 0
      18 August 2014 14: 11
      Quote: cat hippo
      We can say that at that time the Germans were leaders in the field of jet aviation, they began their development earlier and applied them. It is not known how this would affect the course of events.

      The Germans built their first jet in the year 37, but Goering ordered the program to be closed.
  21. +1
    18 August 2014 15: 29
    Something here was discussed to the extent that if Hitler had four-engine aircraft, he would have torn everyone. It's funny Did you read it to Douai, or American magazines?
    If Germany had four-engined aircraft with twin-engine and fighter damage, then its collapse would have occurred even earlier. Heavy bombers are not a panacea and a universal tool for solving all strategic and tactical tasks.
    First of all, they are good for inhumane bombing of the population of enemy cities. There are supporters of such a war, and their native language is English, no matter where on the continent they live. Moreover, they also have preferences — to bomb cities with weak air defense. Therefore, the iron Leipzig, in which there were no military facilities, and its German air defense cover was carried out according to the residual principle.
    The outcome of the war is decided by the ground forces, and the infantry still sets the end. To support the troops, the most inappropriate plane is a four-engine strategist. But for genocide, he is the one. That's why the Americans riveted him. This is their weapon and their concept of warfare. Here, even Hitler does not look like a villain amid the democratic Yankees, who bring freedom to fascism to the inhabitants of Leipzig.
    1. anomalocaris
      +1
      18 August 2014 17: 51
      Add.
      The experience of the war showed that despite the massive bombing of German cities, production in the Third Reich grew until the summer of 1944. That is, until the border crossing of the Red Army. After the oil of Romania, ore of Sweden and Norway stopped flowing, the bread of Ukraine Reich began to deflate. What, incidentally, was Speer warned in the fall of 1941.
      1. 0
        19 August 2014 10: 30
        anomalocaris
        It’s not so simple, the coalition generally fought very specifically, if they attacked the synthetic fuel plants in 1941-42, the factory producing an additive for jet fuel and generally focused on bombing military objects would be much more useful, I'm not talking about joint actions The RKKF and Royal Fleet in the North, as the Soviet military mission in England sought, could block ore supplies and supplies for Dietz.
        America and England could calmly exert diplomatic pressure on Finland to get out of the war, on the contrary, the United States did not even declare war on the Finns.
        1. anomalocaris
          0
          19 August 2014 15: 50
          What are we talking about.
        2. anomalocaris
          0
          20 August 2014 10: 45
          About our allies - a special conversation. With such friends, enemies are not necessary.
          1. Alf
            0
            20 August 2014 12: 17
            Quote: anomalocaris
            About our allies - a special conversation. With such friends, enemies are not necessary.

            "If we see that Germany is winning, then we will help Russia; if Russia is winning, then we will help Germany." Winston Churchill.
            1. anomalocaris
              0
              20 August 2014 15: 52
              Suppose it was not Churchill who said this, Truman blabbed, probably from a great mind. But essentially true.

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