The Red Cross is ready to launch a humanitarian operation in Ukraine, and the US State Department continues to "express concern"

The International Red Cross (IWC) is ready for the beginning of a humanitarian mission in the east of Ukraine with the condition of receiving detailed information from Russia and guaranteeing the safety of its employees, reports ITAR-TASS.

“The ICRC is ready to facilitate such an operation with the involvement, participation and support of all affected parties.”

said in a statement released by the Red Cross.

The communiqué stresses that in the east of Ukraine “the situation is critical - thousands of people reportedly do not have access to water, electricity and medical care.”

In this regard, the IWC is expecting from the Russian Federation “without undue delay the details concerning the assistance, including its volume and type, the necessary requirements for transportation and storage.”

“The practical details of this operation must be clarified before this initiative takes place.”- noted one of the executives of the ICC Laurent Corba.

Yesterday, representatives of the Red Cross handed over to the Russian side a document that, among other things, "describes the way in which such an operation can be carried out."

“This includes the agreement of all parties that the ICRC will be allowed to deliver assistance with respect for the basic principles of neutrality, impartiality and independence,” the document states.

“All parties must also guarantee the safety of ICRC staff and vehicles throughout the operation, given that the organization does not allow armed escorts.”

underlined in the message of the organization.

In addition, the IWC drew attention to the fact that “all parties to the conflict are obliged to allow prompt and unhindered access of humanitarian aid to civilians in need and to facilitate it”.

Meanwhile, the US Department of State continues to mistrust the Russian initiative.

"We are very deeply concerned about the possibility of invasion", - said the representative of the Ministry of Marie Harf. According to her, "any presence of Russian troops on the territory of Ukraine is impossible without the permission of Kiev."

State Department fears are based on the fact that Russian troops "are located a few kilometers from the Ukrainian border and can cross it very quickly after a decision is made." According to Harf, the Ukrainian militia is to blame for the humanitarian crisis, who in the end “must retreat and put down weapon».

Barack Obama doesn’t like Moscow’s humanitarian aid. In a telephone conversation with Italian Prime Minister Matteo Renzi, the US president said that “any intervention under the pretext of humanitarian aid should be carried out only with the formal, explicit consent and permission of the Ukrainian government.”

According to the White House press service, "they (Obama and Renzi) agreed that any steps of Russia that do not meet these requirements will be unacceptable, will violate international laws and lead to additional sanctions."

Comments

[herruvim]

US Department of State Continues to “Express Concern”

Naive people in the State Department, the GDP has already shown you more than once that your opinion and the opinion of your president, according to DRUM

[subbtin.725]

According to Harf, the Ukrainian crisis is to blame for the humanitarian crisis militiaswho, in the end, “must retreat and lay down their arms”

It seemed to me or not ?, before she called the militias categorically: terrorists and separatists, this is something new.

The State Department’s fears are based on the fact that Russian troops “are located several kilometers from the Ukrainian border and can cross it very quickly after a decision is made

We would like to have crossed already ..., it’s not the time to see. It will take, we will not ask anyone, but you, the Yankees.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: herruvim

and the US State Department continues to "express concern"

And if, at the sight of the Russian column, Parashenko will rush out of the country. The whole deal at the State Department will fly.

[Paradoxov]

“The ICRC is ready to facilitate such an operation with the involvement, participation and support of all affected parties ”

This is some kind of "such an operation", this clearly includes something more than the transfer of humanitarian cargo;) Or maybe the ICRC would help about the "no-fly zone" in Donbass, the prohibition of shelling of residential areas and the use of "prohibited weapons", etc. did they take a stake ???

[VAF]

Quote: Paradoxov

This is some kind of "such an operation", this clearly includes something more than the transfer of humanitarian cargo;

This "such operation" is a continuation of earlier "such operations" already with the "success" of our
1. Opening the humanitarian transitions of dill and the Nazis from the environment.
2. Treatment of dill and Nashi.
3. Wash.
4. Providing relaxation.
5. Providing free transport for transportation for a comfortable return to dill.

Now the turn has come ... "feeding" ... you see and hear for yourself .. how poorly the ukrop junta is supplied .. so here you are. Please .. eat. Do not choke.

Quote article - "... that the ICRC will be allowed to deliver aid ..."

What's not clear???? "Obligation" of the Russian Federation to deliver everything to the dill border checkpoint, and then ... "let's ... goodbye"

SCAM ..this or a disease..but most likely..this is DIAGNOSIS!

[Belarus]

I agree that the Russian Federation with enviable consistency helps anyway punitive.
So the humanitarian convoy that was created in the Russian Federation will go along the route ATTENTION: from Voronezh to Kharkov !!!!!!!
And the fact that from Kharkov to the SE NOTHING GETS in the Russian Federation apparently do not know yes?
RF essentially sponsors a punitive operation that's all !!!!!!!!
I will say one thing: apparently in the Russian Federation all!

[OST_51RU]

This is not a scam.
This is a simple betrayal by the Russian government of the starving residents of Donbass and Lugansk, militias fighting the Nazis.
Except as the collusion of our "narodnykh" servants with the Nazis are coming out, it is impossible to understand, humanitarian aid is being taken to feed the "heroes", and they openly lie to us ...

[vladimirZ]

Paradoxov
This is some kind of "such an operation", this clearly includes something more than the transfer of humanitarian cargo ...

Now on "Vesti 24" it was reported: "the humanitarian cargo will pass through the border of the Kharkov region", i.e. through the territory occupied by "dill", which means it will be thoroughly examined, and possibly used on the starving "ukrop" troops, everything can be expected from them.
And if this happens, then there will be another gesheft from Russia by the Bandera army.
So, no "such operation" is clearly planned.
The Russian authorities are "embarrassed" to deliver "humanitarian aid" through the territory of the Lugansk and Donetsk People's Republics.

[VAF]

Quote: vladimirZ

Now on "Vesti 24" it was reported: "the humanitarian cargo will pass through the border of the Kharkov region", i.e. through the territory occupied by "dill"

Volodya. Greetings! +! And again with the Holiday !!! (18th separately )
But they didn’t say according to the Box that they wouldn’t let our people into the territory of dill and ... they wouldn’t let the spirit in .. only the IWC would receive cargo and vehicles, and then ... the crops would themselves ... “deliver” (after all, it’s the same for them ... "bite hostessya" , and here such a BALL ..for free

[vladimirZ]

Sergey, Happy Holiday !!! Health, Good Luck, Happiness!
May God grant that our aviation is resurrected to the necessary combat level, in terms of the number of aircraft, flight crews and combat quality!
Judging by the information "humanitarian aid for the South-East of Ukraine", as reported by the media, it will not reach Donetsk and Lugansk, it will be "distributed" before reaching the line of defense of the militia.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Obviously, they are planning something with this "humanitarian" convoy. It is not for nothing that the United States is screaming so much .. Here is an interesting comment!

[Generalissimus]

++++ During a long war, he drove caravans to the besieged city .. A dozen horses, laden with all kinds of trash, vegetables, cabbage, choppers .. He was checked every time, every time the contents of the cargo were dumped into the mud, but they could not find one what they were sure of - smuggling of military or other important cargo.

After the war, in some tavern one of those who served on the side of the besiegers met a caravan driver. All the time he was tormented by the question of what he was carrying. To this question the caravan smiled and answered - horses. +++++

Maybe the militia meant that the main burden is "drivers", "who know what they are doing"?

[ed65b]

Quote: MIKHAN

Obviously, they are planning something with this "humanitarian" convoy. It is not for nothing that the United States is screaming so much .. Here is an interesting comment!

and here is another one.

Today's information that Russia will nevertheless deliver food and medicine to the Donbass confidently speaks of Putin’s new victory and, notice, a peaceful victory. Putin did not bomb anyone, he brings life to the region, and the Ukrainian president dies. Whom will the people love? We are all witnesses of the fact that the whole Western world has become angry at the proposal of a humanitarian convoy, and yet Putin pushed through this crazy world, bent the Ukrainian president, without a single drop of blood. In fact, from this moment peace can begin in the Donbass. If the Ukrainian army starts shooting at Russians, then the whole world will understand what is understandable to Russians today. Poroshenko’s regime is openly fascist, now Putin is driving this vampire cockroach back under a broom.

Literally in yesterday’s article, we talked about the fact that Russia needs to use the moment and introduce humanitarian aid to Ukraine. In case of opposition, use the armed forces to shield doctors from bombing. Perhaps it would have been like that, there was such talk among politicians in the West and there are still concerns, but the West decided to back down, because otherwise Putin would have simply crushed the Ukrainian garrison and the image of the West. The West decided that such losses for its image is too much, I had to make concessions to Putin for the umpteenth time. Each time, the Russian president dunks Western democracy with his nose in his own jam, so that although the nose looks already sugared, the owners of the nose smell a different smell, it doesn't smell like jam. Well, Ukraine was left with a "bent president."

[tasey]

And how do you like this? -
A Russian convoy with humanitarian aid to residents of southeastern Ukraine advanced to its destination. The US and Europe have already accused us of “military invasion under the pretext of help” against the background of statements by the Kiev oligarch-president Poroshenko that the humanitarian crisis and the authorities affected by the punitive operation are not.

It was assumed that the cargo will be delivered through the Kharkov region. However, later, the deputy head of the presidential administration, Valery Chaly, said that Ukraine would not let the convoy into the country. According to him, the collected cargo "will be delivered to the Ukrainian border, cleared and loaded onto other equipment." The head of the administration of the Ukrainian president said that Ukraine "will not allow the staff of the Russian Emergencies Ministry to accompany the cargo." At the same time, he admitted that the leaders of Western countries recommended Ukraine to accept assistance from the Russian Federation.
http://www.odnako.org/blogs/rossii-nakonec-to-udalos-otpravit-gumanitarnuyu-pomo
shch-ukraine /

[scientist]

I am 100% sure that the Ukrainian fascists will do some kind of dirty trick. And they agreed only because there was nothing to eat of their punitive army. Apparently I expect to confiscate the goods on the road. And this is in the best case, and even hostages will be taken. Then, all the same, Russia will be blamed, as with the Malaysian Boeing. It is impossible to negotiate with the Nazis, terrorists and killers of their own people! They need to be destroyed by all available means.

[fyodor]

Exactly, I’m afraid, however much we feed the one who is not following. they’ll take it all away, write letters, complain, and they’ll stuff these belly’s teeth when the people they bomb and destroy will be left with nothing; and wish them good luck with all their hearts

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: MIKHAN

Obviously, something is up to this convoy "humanitarian"

We’ll break through

[The Art of War]

And if you put the sides and cover it with an awning, then a good disguise will come out!

[VAF]

Quote: MIKHAN

Obviously, they are planning something with this "humanitarian" convoy. It is not for nothing that the United States is screaming so much .. Here is an interesting comment!

Hinting at "a subtle moment in a ... thick circumstance" ? Those. a repetition of the Trojan horse in 1993?
In the hope that again "someone" will step on .. "the same rake", and even in a dark room?
Well, not all of them have Pokimon UsSAKi and Harfiki

[Salamander]

I'm afraid they will smash the convoy of the National Guard into Karachun. Like "repel the invasion". I wonder what ours will do?

[VAF]

Quote: Salamander

I wonder what ours will do.

As always Note, protest, extremely "warning", etc. etc.
Today tonight, dill has already crashed directly into the Kuybeshevo district center .. and why ... they don’t even transmit it in the news .. but here are visits to Sochi and a future trip to Crimea .. so it’s
And the fact that the whole region sits on suitcases, and this is 33 farms and a village ... so Russia is big

[Duke]

U.S. Department of State spokesman during a regular briefing Jen Psak touched on the food embargo that Russia imposed on American goods.
“A sharp decline in imports of Western agricultural products may lead to the strengthening of the position of agricultural producers within Russia. Therefore, the loss of control over a significant segment of the agricultural products market in Russia may constitute a potential threat to US national security. ”

Strong Russia bone like a bone in the throat for the USA.

[Cap-3 USSR]

They are constantly worried. Yes, even about h to about constantly bench press, from the fact that the Russian troops are somewhere nearby.
It is necessary to treat them. Like Evdokimov the wino in a comedy.

[Salamander]

Here is the humanitarian aid.
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[max702]

And here what ukrovsky puppets really want
"In turn, the deputy head of the Presidential Administration of Ukraine Valeriy Chaly said" And we will not allow escorting the RF Ministry of Emergencies or the RF military. The Ukrainian side takes responsibility for this procedure, "he assured.

“By the way, Europe is sending 2,5 million euros of aid and now the best option from the Russian Federation would be to send funds, rather than sleeping bags,” UNN quoted him as saying.
Sending funds is what they need .. finally they don’t scorch ..

[BIP PS FSB RF]

Ah! Funds can also be cut or redirected, and humanitarian aid will be targeted.

ZY A Tajik boy comes up to me - "Give me some bread, please!"
I go buy bread, give the boy - "Fuck you .... nah ... I need your bread ..."
So they talked ... I dried the crackers out of the excess bread - toss it in the soup, and gnaw it with my son.

[BIP PS FSB RF]

Possess sc.ki, afraid that the truth will come up ... And the dollar will fall again ... U..ki!

[Prapor-527]

Dvizhuha went! And at the State Department Us Rat ...

[Момент]

Mat America. Let us continue to express concern, we just have a different concept of humanitarian assistance.
American humanitarian aid burns everywhere with fire, blood and curses. Well, and Russian is always on time, with thanks.

[Момент]

These are not humanitarian cookies from a bag on the Maidan to hand out to you, there is a powerful humanitarian aid in the amount of ... That’s why everyone is not too lazy to star.

[APS]

Russian aid - so help, and not like on the Maidan, some "assistants" helped with cookies and tea with psychotropic "pathogens" ...

[Heavy]

And what prevented the same America, Europe under the guise of the Red Cross, UN Humanitarian Aid, etc., to bring their humanitarian cargo? Show what kind they are to the inhabitants of Donbass? And Poroshenko personally would sprinkle and bless this cargo?

[ibnvladimir]

Here the dog rummaged :-) ... It remains only to wait until the cargo is delivered. And immediately it becomes clear what the Yankees want to prevent humanitarian aid.

[Salamander]

Interestingly, there will be "Cornets"? Or "Bumblebees"?

[KG_patriot_last]

Humanitarian intervention ??? What nonsense in Obama’s head? Can anyone give an example of such a case though?

[Koloradovatnik]

Of course. The humanitarian bombardment of Serbia by depleted uranium and Iraq by phosphorus. American inventions.

[AndreyRS]

sure. phishington has already done so many interventions under different names that they simply do not understand that humanitarian supplies can be delivered

[Koloradovatnik]

A convoy of 280 trucks has already left the Moscow Region and is heading for the Russian-Donbass border (not the Russian-Ukrainian one!).

[TRex]

There is only one question - how to ensure the safety of the mission. The answer is no way. Definitely - there will be provocations, there will be losses among unarmed emergency workers and personnel of the IWC. I can’t imagine how this will end ... or maybe vice versa - I can even imagine.

[malahit4444]

There is a feeling that people will die on the convoy and without armed escort, well, like sheep for the slaughter and the junta will blame the militia but really the GDP doesn’t provide for such a move

[svp67]

Lord, in the United States, in general, in his anger, "mind for mind went". Obama - DO NOT HINDER TO SAVE THE PEOPLE OF EMERCOM of Russia !!!.
The guys from the column - GOOD LUCK and RETURN EVERYTHING, alive and healthy.

[mig31]

Let the dog bark, and the caravan should go ...

[svp67]

Quote: mig31

Let the dog bark, and the caravan should go ...

It is simply OBLIGED ... Worse is something else, "jackals" have already appeared and "howl", to please their master, more and more ... Here Ura.Ru

Trojan horse. Under the guise of humanitarian aid, Russia is introducing troops into Ukraine. “The car numbers are off, the trucks are carelessly painted.” VIDEO

http://ura.ru/content/primenews/12-08-2014/news/1052187364.html

[B.T.V.]

Quote: svp67

"jackals" have already appeared and "howl"

They did not disappear, but howl, so the full moon, however.

[P-38]

According to the White House press service, "they (Obama and Renzi) agreed that any steps of Russia that do not meet these requirements will be unacceptable, will violate international laws and lead to additional sanctions."

And we are ready for these sanctions, in the sense of an answer. Would you like to try, gentlemen?

[Giant thought]

All these geyropeytsy and mattresses judge humanitarian aid on their own, from this and all their guns.

[rasputin17]

The Red Cross is ready to embark on a humanitarian mission, and the State Department expresses deep concern. There is only one conclusion: Ordinary fascism and outright hypocrisy!

[asar]

Meanwhile, the US Department of State continues to mistrust the Russian initiative.

Meanwhile, Russia is not preoccupied with the "concern" of the Yankees! Russia has a lot of things to do, not up to you! And you Yankees, if you are "always preoccupied", drive to the "red light district" in the evening! Maybe it will help ?!

[igor1981]

The United States, with its concern, may turn to Lyashko, where they will be successfully helped to solve this problem.

[pomegranate]

Quote: KG_patriot_last

Humanitarian intervention ??? What nonsense in Obama’s head? Can anyone give an example of such a case though?

There is a lot of examples at the kanepachik cottage!

[NORILCHANIN]

Sneezing at this concern from a high bell tower, the main thing is to deliver to Little Russia safe and sound. Here you need to accompany the cargo with the participation of the RUSSIAN Air Force.
Today is the holiday of the Russian Air Force - WITH HOLIDAYS FOR GUYS - GLORY OF THE Russian Air Force!

[andrei332809]

always worried ... maybe they should go to the doctor?

[rasputin17]

I'm afraid that medicine is useless here !! They are so flawed by nature !!

[MSA]

Dumbheads, they can’t oppose anything other than their sanctions

[Neighbor]

The State Department’s fears are based on the fact that Russian troops “are located several kilometers from the Ukrainian border and can cross it very quickly after a decision is made.” According to Harf, the Ukrainian militias are to blame for the humanitarian crisis, which ultimately "must retreat and lay down their arms."

The militias are on their land and they better know what to do and the under-Psaki-Harf may not know what and to whom they owe.

[propolsky]

Let the whole world see who brings oil with a loaf, and who pret. Home ab @ Yankee!

[dchegrinec]

It’s clear why humanitarian aid is not to the liking! If they won’t defeat them with a humanitarian catastrophe, so that people would just free the bridgehead ... one word.

[pg4]

We will be glad when help reaches the Donbass. I hope there are a couple of trucks with mortars and mortars.

[blackberry]

Quote: pg4

We will be glad when help reaches the Donbass. I hope there are a couple of trucks with mortars and mortars.

No, of course, how could you think such a thing. Exclusively civilian items.

[vladsolo56]

Firstly, each truck will be shaken up at the border, and secondly, I’m not sure that they will reach the place at all. Most likely, punitives will suggest overloading everything on their transport and they will send Russia back

[pg4]

Dill has already stated that it will not miss a load. In now, we’ll see if the leadership of the Russian Federation has eggs or we want to help this otmaza for the mob type, and he sent us.

[kot28.ru]

He is always very, very extremely concerned about something !! Clickable photo

[kostya-petrov]

the column has gone !!! Its length is more than 3 kilometers. Who is escorted ???
how will they go along the highway? What air cover is Mi-24? ground cover - who is in the convoy ???
The main thing is to cover the casings so that the column does not burn during the attack (God forbid)

[DPZ]

somewhere today. in a neighboring branch, it sounded like a column had crossed the border.
Do not tell me: true or not?

[kostya-petrov]

no, they went out today. Only tomorrow will be at the border!
They gave you information to the desu.

[DV69]

Quote: kostya-petrov

the column has gone !!! Its length is more than 3 kilometers. Who is escorted ???
how will they go along the highway? What air cover is Mi-24? ground cover - who is in the convoy ???
The main thing is to cover the casings so that the column does not burn during the attack (God forbid)

Colon will go without cover. The International Committee of the Red Cross has already announced this. The ICRC also declared its neutrality in the conflict and demanded security guarantees for the humanitarian aid and those accompanying it. Russia and Novorossia have provided such guarantees.

[rotmistr60]

US State Department:
If something bothers you, scratch it and possibly go away. Just do not touch Russia. How does this end? Ask the Livonian Order, the Swedes, Napoleon, Hitler and the former presidents of the United States.

[mackonya]

And again they hinted at sanctions, strange guys, is it really not clear that sanctions are generally a "move" from impotence.

[kostya-petrov]

such humanitarian convoy escort will be ???

[Alexei.N]

The US State Department continues to "express concern", in connection with what? Well, if only in the place of humanitarian aid to transport weapons, ammunition, tanks and other military equipment in trucks.

[Barakuda]

Let yourself remember - Concerned damn it ...

[Diesel66]

The Kuevlyan authorities will start "shelling from the militia" at the convoy with humanitarian aid. There is a precedent, the Boeing Commission has already been fired upon, having previously stated that the militias are shooting.

[mir2014]

Quote: "In a telephone conversation with Italian Prime Minister Matteo Renzi, the US President said that" any intervention under the pretext of humanitarian aid should be carried out only with the formal, clearly expressed consent and permission of the Ukrainian government. "
Barack hears himself - that he says: "... only with a formal, clearly expressed consent ..." One excludes the other!

[DPZ]

Yes, and the word intervention is somehow not very suitable. can translators mess it up?

[Gecko]

Yanukovych gave his permission

[surovts.valery]

About the ICRC (International Committee of the Red Cross)

The horrors of the Second World War and the huge sacrifices among the civilian population forced the ICRC to completely review the humanitarian law that existed at that time. The result of numerous negotiations was the signing in 1949 of the four Geneva Conventions, which include the basic principles and norms of humanitarian law and the "law of war":
The First Convention (Geneva Convention for the Amelioration of the Condition of the Wounded and Sick in Armed Forces in the Field) defined the attitude to the wounded and sick military personnel of the ground forces on the territory of the theater of operations; The second Convention (Convention for the Amelioration of the Condition of Wounded, Sick and Shipwrecked Members of Armed Forces at Sea), similar to the first, related to the naval forces; The Third Convention (Convention relative to the Treatment of Prisoners of War) regulated the treatment of prisoners of war, and the Fourth
(Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War, of 12 August 1949) defined the legal rules applicable to civilians during armed conflicts.
In 1977, two additional protocols to the main Geneva Conventions were adopted (the Protocol for the Protection of Victims of International Armed Conflicts and the Protocol for the Protection of Victims of Internal Armed Conflicts). The main objective of these Protocols is to adapt existing international humanitarian law to the new realities of international and local armed conflicts.

It seems that this organization still has authority in the world and really honest and noble people work in this organization, in contrast to, say, the OSCE and the UN’s various missions. Poroshenko could not get away from the facts provided by the ICRC and was forced to agree to the convoy, and Obama only timidly nudges because of the Puddle. Well, in fact, the column is on the way. So far, he has made some conclusions from the entire news flow:
1. The column will arrive at the base of the Ministry of Emergencies near Rostov, where such a large number of trucks are parked.
2. Contrary to Lavrov’s statement, the route has not been agreed with the Ukrainian side; they are trying in every possible way to insert the sticks into the wheels, such as leading a convoy through a checkpoint controlled by Ukraine or in the north of the Rostov Region. or in the south via Novo-Azovsk. Nothing is clear about the final destination of the route.
3. Most likely, both the route and the final destination have been agreed upon by the Russian side and the ICRC, it will pass through the checkpoint and territories controlled by militias and help will go where it is really needed.
Good luck to them and return to all alive and healthy.
Good luck to them

[DPZ]

Most likely, both the route and the final destination have been agreed upon by the Russian side and the ICRC, it will pass through the checkpoint and territories controlled by militias and help will go where it is really needed.
I want to hope so. otherwise the State Department will buck up at the last moment and ban the action

[Russ69]

Quote: DPZ

Most likely, both the route and the final destination were agreed by the Russian side and the ICRC,

Yesterday Peskov said that the route was agreed with Kiev, but he did not say where and how the border crossing will be ....

[vladsolo56]

It is officially stated that the convoy will go through Kharkov. So there is no guarantee of delivery.

[series]

Ukrainians organize a provocation with an escort - do not go to the grandmother ...

[wladimir]

"Any intervention under the pretext of humanitarian assistance should be carried out only with the formal, clearly expressed consent and permission of the Government of Ukraine."
since when intervention takes place with permission, it completely turns into a monkey, no logic

[B.T.V.]

"Logic is the god of the thinkers," and there are no such people in US politics.

[Alexei.N]

Of course they shut up, they realized that it was useless. They (Europe and the USA) remind this hour of the drowned!

[Vardan]

We are on the verge of a new turn of events.
Sincerely, with all my heart I am glad that we, as always, spit on the "concerns" of our partners and we do not abandon ours.
We have been deceived, played democracy - it’s time and honor to know.

[bubalik]

"The situation is critical - thousands of people reportedly do not have access to water, electricity, and medical care."

,,, it seems that the whole situation in Yu.V., as has been said more than once, was created to clean up these territories. Most of the infrastructure of cities and settlements is destroyed, people are fleeing, before the onset of cold weather there is no way and means to restore all branches of life support, and in September-October the remaining residents will leave this region. And no one is going to restore, because the Poroshenko regime offers people to leave their places of residence, the methodical destruction of settlements continues. And the purpose of the ATO is not to preserve the unity of Ukraine, as can be seen from everything that happens. And if the referendum on Yu.V. was held to create such a situation? (Personal opinion)

What is all this for ???

[kostya-petrov]

Here is what Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said yesterday: "When speaking of a humanitarian catastrophe in the combat zone, Moscow is not exaggerating at all - and in the event of a disruption to the relief operation, it will act without looking back at anyone's warnings ..."
so our steam locomotive stands on a siding under the steam!

[DPZ]

and in the event of a disruption of the relief operation, it will act without regard to any warnings
I read in the morning and thought: if only it would not be an empty phrase.

[kostya-petrov]

what are you ??? God forbid!!! Let all trucks with humanitarian aid get safely to their destination and back!
The same chain reaction to the explosion will go. Let's regret the drove these trucks drive, because they have neither body armor nor machine guns.
They go completely unarmed.
There will be no military guard! Already on the news said.

[Vardan]

Do you think that real drivers will be sitting in the car, and not employees of the "polite organization"? :)

[Russ69]

Quote: kostya-petrov

"When speaking of a humanitarian catastrophe in the combat zone, Moscow is not at all exaggerating - and in the event of a disruption to the relief operation, it will act without looking back at anyone's warnings ..."

A month ago, Lavrov said the same thing. I do not remember literally, but the point is that the Russian Federation will provide humanitarian assistance despite the bans of Kiev. As a result, the column was unloaded in Rostov, as Kiev did not let ...
There have already been a lot of statements, but the actions are still zero ...

[GRAY]

On Tuesday, August 12, Andriy Makarevich will visit Semenovka, Slavyansk and Svyatogorsk with a humanitarian mission at the invitation of the President of the Volunteer Fund of Ukraine Timofey Nagorny.
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“Andrei Makarevich will come to see the consequences of the hostilities in Semenovka and Slavyansk. Together with the Volunteer Fund of Ukraine, at 17:00, it will provide humanitarian assistance to people who have left the battlefields, and will speak to children and migrants of Donbass, who are in Svyatogorsk, at 19:00 in the regional children's and youth sanatorium and health complex “Perlina Donetchini” in Svyatogorka, ”the Volunteer Fund reports.

A month earlier, Makarevich called the Donbass militias “terrorists” and invited the residents of New Russia, who were unhappy with the policy of the Kiev junta, to leave for Russia.

[Russian Alex]

Makarevich, as a traitor to the homeland, should be deported to his historical homeland, to Israel. (He lived a remk all his life, into traitors for the last years)

[iConst]

Quote: Russian Alex

Makarevich, as a traitor to the homeland, should be deported to his historical homeland, to Israel. (He lived a remk all his life, into traitors for the last years)

Come on - it's his habit "Baba Yaga against". Spit and grind.
I’m not going to his concerts and creative evenings any more.

[Buran]

Spit in the face, and rub it with your foot, in the same place.

[Gecko]

All who consider themselves Russian should forget this so-called "idol" forever. I propose to declare a boycott of this and always express loud discontent and boo it.

[asar]

“Andrei Makarevich will come to see the consequences of the hostilities in Semenovka and Slavyansk

So that you get hit by drg! And there "stay"!

[Geokingxnumx]

“We remind the Russian side that, according to international law, the direction of humanitarian cargo implies <...> the coordination of the list of humanitarian aid items, its delivery, exclusively through UN channels or through the International Committee of the Red Cross,” the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry said in a statement.

It was precisely these principles that the head of the ICRC’s delegation in Ukraine Michel Masson spoke about when he said that the ICRC received an offer from Lavrov to provide “convoys of assistance”, but did not approve of it.

This is what the ICRC website says: “The ICRC also confirms the receipt of an offer from Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov to organize aid convoys to the affected areas in Ukraine. “Any humanitarian initiative is welcome to alleviate the suffering of the civilian population,” Masson explained. “We are exploring the possibility of distributing additional assistance in conflict zones; this implies the participation, approval and support of all interested parties. Any action by the ICRC will be carried out in strict accordance with our fundamental principles of work: neutrality, impartiality and independence. In addition, ICRC staff must also have secure access to carry out their work. ”

Moreover, on August 9, representatives of the ICRC officially announced that they did not and could not agree to “escorting aid” from Russia to the territory of Donbass. ICRC spokeswoman Sitara Jabin said that if all parties to the conflict agree, the ICRC will be able to receive humanitarian assistance from Russia. At the same time, the Red Cross, according to the rules of its work, will transport it to its destination. “But so far nothing has been done,” Jabin said.

http://www.stopfake.org/moskva-vydumala-soglasie-krasnogo-kresta-na-rossijskie-k
onvoi-pomoshhi-dlya-donbassa /
here there are original stats and quotes)

[kostya-petrov]

so everything is already agreed, the column has gone!
I do not think that the column would move if there were contradictions.

[Russian Alex]

UN puppet of the United States links to this organization are the destiny of the wretched, not far-off henchmen of pidomatrasia.

[Russian Alex]

When will he calm down? Olegofren with a planter victim complex.

[nikkon09]

I don’t want to repeat myself, but we were appointed "bad guys" we will introduce the army, we will not introduce yaks on the Gilyaks. So for all the former fraternal ones, if we introduced you, you would either burst or lose consciousness. Who of you reads These are Ukrainians, you are dolls, puppets. Look at the Belarusians and at yourself, the Belarusians on horseback, and you are under the tail of this horse. Your hope is just that the South-East will win, pray for them and Strelkov, only they will pull you out of this hole.

[AndreyRS]

Everyone understands that a convoy of vehicles in a combat zone cannot but affect them. And she will come to Donetsk and Lugansk itself. And who dares to fire at her? And do not miss? and skip and answer in Kiev why missed? in any case, our people understand that they can use this fact for their own purposes. but how - see soon.

[kostya-petrov]

great argument !!! All will reach alive!

[pomegranate]

Who has information on the protection of the convoy !?

[Nina Zima]

Savik Schuster @saviik_shuster12 hours
Retweet, if you think that Ukraine does not need humanitarian assistance from Russia.

Favorites, help must be taken without fail.

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from myself: guys honestly our neighbors are true cannibals! really want to hurt them ....

[VNP1958PVN]

and the US State Department continues to "express concern"

Preoccupied persons were named persons with one constantly unsatisfied desire. Who and when will satisfy him?

[BoBkaTyumen]

They have one madame - Monica Lewinsky. Oral Hygiene Specialist ...

[umka_]

It’s high time to merge Makarevich, in the photo he looks so much like a real goat, probably they are all the same relatives

[Finches]

Comrades! He was always a goat!
He did nothing to disagree with his life position, starting from a snotty nerd youth in the 70s and 80s!
Selling, venality and market conditions and again venality!
I apologize to the fans of the "Time Machine" group for my unflattering opinion about its leader!

[shurik]

And this is how Ukraine presents it.

Recall, on the eve of the President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko took the initiative to send an international humanitarian aid mission to Donbass. In addition to the cargo prepared by the Ukrainian side, the mission will also include an international component, in particular humanitarian aid provided by the International Committee of the Red Cross, the USA, the EU, and Russia. The initiative was supported by US President Barack Obama.

Earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin said that the Russian Federation had decided to send a "humanitarian convoy" to Ukraine. Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said that this initiative was allegedly coordinated with the Red Cross.

http://www.segodnya.ua/politics/pnews/rossiyskiy-gumanitarnyy-konvoy-uzhe-dvizhe
tsya-v-ukrainu-543697.html

[MAGGNUM]

Yes, they have in my opinion the entire State Department is simply preoccupied!

[123321]

IMPORTANT! Airplanes bombing Donetsk flew from NATO base in Romania

Bombers who bombed civilian targets in Eastern Ukraine, flying with the Ukrainian Air Force identification marks, were connected to air bases located in Romania and Moldova, they were equipped, and some were possibly piloted, by Poles and Israelis.

A Canadian journalist, Geoffrey West, working with groups of social media informants, noted that “several military aircraft” flying over Ukraine’s airspace took off from NATO bases and other facilities. “I found on Thursday evening in the tracking website ... that a series of“ no callsign ”flights were seen in the Ukraine / Black Sea area. My friend noticed that they appeared in the Bucharest region. I noted that it was near Chisinau, Moldova. ”

This is more than an attempt to avoid the detection of Russian air defense by the radar, which can warn pro-Russian separatists who oppose the Kiev junta. This is a serious violation of international law and national sovereignty of the participating countries, as well as the unauthorized use of NATO forces, some of which are under the direct command of General Breedlove, in an underground terrorist war against civilians ...
http://novorossia.su/ru/node/5092

[pomegranate]

What is confirmed?

[shurik]

Complete nonsense. Russia is able to track track the aircraft from the moment of take-off to the final point.

[Buran]

Well, actually, that is, methods of short-term departure from the location.

[Gray 43]

In the news, it seems, they said that they would unload the convoy at the border, they won’t go to the Donbass themselves, I hope they will deal with the looters and grabbers in a timely manner, otherwise it’s painful for the fat production

[Dave36]

That is, unload at the border? then the meaning of singing songs? It is necessary to take out people ..

[shurik]

Humanitarian aid from Russia will cross the border with Ukraine in the Kharkov region
12 August 2014 | 13: 01
Former President of Ukraine Leonid Kuchma told Interfax about this. According to him, the route to Lugansk has already been determined. Kuchma stressed that the assistance will be carried out under the auspices of the international "Red Cross", and the convoy will be accompanied by representatives of the OSCE.
I recall that earlier the President of the European Commission, Jose Manuel Barroso, warned the President of Russia against using the army against Ukraine, including under the guise of humanitarian aid. In turn, the press secretary of the Russian president Dmitry Peskov claims that the Russian column will enter the territory of Ukraine at the place that will be agreed with Kiev. Peskov called absurd statements that humanitarian aid would be a cover for a military operation.

[Anisim1977]

Delirium "gray goat"
If help goes through Kharkov, then why the convoy goes through Voronezh !!!!!!
Damn, I’m banned for. However, if anyone is here and there, explain to idiots - they don’t go from Moscow to Kharkov through Voronezh !!!!!
And the convoy will spend the night in Voronezh !!!!!

[aristarh]

Will Ukraine send the cargo of humanitarian convoy from Russia to its military?

source: http://www.mk.ru/politics/2014/08/12/gruz-gumanitarnogo-konvoya-iz-rossii-ukrain
a-napravit-svoim-voennym.html? google_editors_picks = true

[terminator978]

Я так подозреваю, что войска РФ, по мнению ов должны быть удалены от укроповских границ этак на несколько тысяч км, и вот тогда они может будут без опаски подпускать к Уралу наши гуманитарные конвои, а скорей всего им и этого будет мало. Как известно - аппетит приходит во время еды, а ы уже давно пожирают всё на своём пути.

[GHOST29RUS]

Пид*ры эти американцы, потому что мешают Красному Кресту

[Russ69]

Киев, уже говорит, что может не пропустить колонну. Лавров, вчера ножкой топал, что пофиг и так проведем. Вот и поглядим...

КИЕВ, 12 авг — РИА Новости. Киев заявляет, что направляющийся к границе с Украиной конвой с гуманитарным грузом якобы не сертифицирован Международным Комитетом Красного Креста.
Конвой "КамАЗов" с гуманитарной помощью для Украины прибыл в Тулу
Отвечая на вопрос журналистов о том, будет ли пропущена российская гуманитарная колонна через украинскую границу, представитель Совета национальной безопасности и обороны Украины Андрей Лысенко заявил, что "эта колонна не является сертифицированной Международным Комитетом Красного Креста колонной".

РИА Новости http://ria.ru/world/20140812/1019717636.html#ixzz3AAlp7zVA

[chelovektapok]

Почитал комменты на цензоре по поводу каравана с гуманитаркой. Мнения там разделились. Одни предлагают замочить весь конвой вместе с грузом и людьми. Другие предлагают взять гуманитарку себе а "уж опосля...". В этом вся укопитекская психология- дикая агрессия и желание уничтожить совмещается с извечной жаждой халявы. Всю жизнь с протянутой рукой и воровство- основа всего, от госэкономики до хаты со свиньёй в стайке. Индюшачья надутость сочетается с побирушничеством и последующим обгаживанием того, за чей счёт подхарчились. Но и те и другие БОЯТСЯ в том числе и того,что в караване будет оружие, боеприпасы и средства войны для ополченцев Новороссии. Неумные и недалёкие хрюшки из антироссийского хлева заокеанской мартышки. Ну раскинули бы хоть единственной своей прямой извилиной, которая сзади ниже пояса. КТО ПОВЕЗЁТ ОРУЖИЕ И БОЕЗАПАС В РАЗРЕКЛАМИРОВАННОМ КОНВОЕ ПО ЭГИДОЙ КРАСНОГО КРЕСТА И ПО ДОГОВОРЁННОСТИ С ХУНТОЙ? Только те, кто по себе судят и у кого подлость в галичанских генах!

[Solovyov]

Абсолютно спокойное отношение Киева к идущему в направлении Новороссии гуманитарному конвою говорит о том, что он получил все возможные гарантии отсутствия в составе конвоя "сил вторжения" и военных грузов в адрес ополчения. При этом нужно понимать, что карательная операция Порошенко направлена как раз на массовое истребление населения Донбасса и Луганска - и поэтому внезапная доброта и согласие на их спасение может означать лишь то, что получены и другие гарантии, которые более чем устраивают нацистов.

Я более чем уверен, что московские и киевские олигархи спят и видят, как им договориться между собой и одновременно ликвидировать Новороссию как таковую. Единственной фигурой, которая стояла и пока стоит между этими договоренностями, является Стрелков. Неуправляемый, идейный и совершенно недоговороспособный в том случае, если речь идет о предательстве. Не только он один, конечно - в ополчении огромное количество людей, искренне ненавидящих фашистов и готовых сражаться с ними до самого конца. Стрелков - лидер этих людей.

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The sluggish reaction of Kiev and Washington to this sudden convoy (especially in a situation where a couple of days ago they literally got hysterical at the mere mention of any help to dying people) can only mean that agreements are reached. And the most important element of such arrangements is exchange. Exchange Strelkova to the rescue.

Если это так - в ближайшие несколько дней может быть объявлено, что Стрелков покинул Донецк. Неважно, как это будет представлено - бежал, исчез или героически был отозван. Формально убрать Стрелкова Москва не может - он доброволец и не подчиняется никому. Но по факту способов вынудить его уйти достаточно много. Он - главный раздражающий фактор в отношениях между фашистами в Киеве и соглашателями и предателями в Москве.

If Igor will be forced to leave Donetsk, one can expect that events will begin to develop rapidly. For Poroshenko, August 24 is a kind of deadline, when he should report to his electorate about the victory. Victory may be either occupation with the fighting of Donetsk or consent to a ceasefire. Replacing the non-contractile Strelkov with people who are ready to trade will give Kiev the desired result. No wonder Kurginyan so hysterically goes around Strelkov’s figure - he simply creates the necessary background.

In this case, Moscow will demonstrate its ability to seek a compromise with "partners" in the hope that sanctions will be lifted from it. Or at least some of them. The main thing is that gas transit through the territory of Ukraine will continue.

Людей перестанут бомбить и убивать. Хотя все остальное, естественно, останется - репрессии против "сепаратистов" и "террористов" продолжатся, но они уже никого не будут интересовать. СМИ молчат - значит, этого нет. Восстанавливать Донбасс и Луганщину никто не будет - на это просто нет средств. Что означает только одно - беженцы продолжат переходить на нашу территорию. Россия возьмет на себя заботу о них и в короткие сроки придет к соглашению с Киевом по поставкам газа. По цене, которая устроит Киев. По сути, Россия будет платить контрибуцию, но разве об этом скажут вслух?

In general, Strelkov is a marker of what is happening. If before Sunday he doesn’t leave, then everything is not so simple. If he leaves, it means that we have a new Munich, where the same mistake will be repeated again - you can’t agree on anything with the Nazis. It is impossible to appease them. Especially in our situation, when the problem of Crimea has not been resolved, Kiev and the West do not recognize its incorporation into Russia.

What ended Munich - is known. I really want to hope that Moscow will not repeat this mistake.
https://el-murid.livejournal.com/1960849.html

[shurik]

На 24 августа в Киеве назначен ПАРАД. Порох хочет его сделать ПАРАДОМ ПОБЕДЫ.

[Mountain shooter]

Не верная оценка. Слишком упрощенная. Сейчас все действуют в рамках цейтнота. Путин показал, что он и думает и действует быстрее. С Хунтой и ее хозяевами он разговаривает только если ОНИ звонят. Санкции Москву не пугают. Наоборот.
Как выяснилось - санкции - отличный повод расколоть Европу и Матрасию, да еще подтянуть к России Латинскую америку, Иран и ЮВА. Так что Игорь Иваныч конечно, герой, но в этих раскладах не он ферзь.

[fax66]

Если караван пойдет через Харьковскую область, то до Донецка и Луганска из гуманитарной помощи дойдут жалкие крохи - все растащат по пути.

[Russ69]

Quote: fax66

Если караван пойдет через Харьковскую область, то до Донецка и Луганска из гуманитарной помощи дойдут жалкие крохи - все растащат по пути.

Украина заявила, что груз будет перегружен на их транспорт и распределен самими. Причем, никаких представителей РФ на территорию Украины не допустят. Я не пойму, Кремль, кого вообще поддерживать собрался, Республики или хунту. Если честно, я опасаюсь, что будет второе...
Сколько в нете читаю, народ не понимает уже , для кого собственно помощь направлена? С нашей стороны, ни одного внятного слова, как не было, так и нет. Укропы, уже кучу заявлений сделали, разного уровня чинуш. Песков промямлил, что все согласовано с Киевом. А, что все..?

Украинские власти не пропустят на территорию страны технику из российского конвоя. Об этом в эфире украинского телеканала «Громадьске ТВ» заявил замглавы администрации президента Валерий Чалый.
«Мы не рассматриваем возможность любого движения российских колонн по украинской территории. Колонна остановится в транзитной зоне, там помощь будет перегружена», – заявил он в эфире телевидения.
Чалый уточнил, что гуманитарная помощь будет перегружена с российских на украинские грузовики. Также украинские власти исключают, что груз будут сопровождать сотрудники МЧС России или какого-либо другого силового ведомства РФ. Доставку гуманитарной помощи будет координировать украинское отделение Международного Красного Креста.
Ранее на брифинге для журналистов спикер информационно-аналитического центра Совета национальной безопасности и обороны Андрей Лысенко заявлял, что власти Украины не откроют границу для гуманитарного конвоя. «Эта колонна не сертифицирована Международным комитетом Красного Креста. Колонна, которая не сертифицирована, не попадет на территорию Украины», – отметил Лысенко.

Read more: http://top.rbc.ru/politics/12/08/2014/942417.shtml

[Themi30]

Никакие граждане в таком случае ничего не получат, все пойдет в АТО, они бомжи похлеще "освобожденных граждан". Им мы этой колонной и поможем. Надеюсь что доставку груза планировали не конченые и не предатели, и колонна разгрузится на территории ополченцев.

[vladsolo56]

Каким же надо быть наивным что бы везти гуманитарный груз в Новороссию, через Украину. Почему-то у меня совсем нет уверенности что груз дойдет до места назначения.

[Russ69]

Quote: vladsolo56

Каким же надо быть наивным что бы везти гуманитарный груз в Новороссию, через Украину. Почему-то у меня совсем нет уверенности что груз дойдет до места назначения.

Такая же, фигня... Какая то муть с этим конвоем, пока...
Такое, чувство, что Кремль тупо зарабатывает очки, но судя, по всему не перед теми, кем надо...

[Deff]

http://el-murid.livejournal.com/1960849.html

[surovts.valery]

Будет ещё интересней, приедет Ляшко, наденет повязку Красного Креста и встанет на раздачу этой самой гумпомощи населению "освобожденного" Славянска.
Ну неужели, только мы на сайте это понимаем. Есть же адекватные люди, которые отвечают за доставку гуманитарной помощи.

[Russ69]

Quote: surovts.valery

. Есть же адекватные люди, которые отвечают за доставку гуманитарной помощи.

Так у них и интерес может быть , несколько иной, чем у народа на форуме...

[Tanechka-clever]

«любое присутствие российских войск на территории Украины невозможно без разрешения Киева».

При этом ....«Что касается пункта пересечения, то тут не нужно никакое решение контактной группы, поскольку речь идёт о контролируемом Украиной пункте пропуска между Белгородской и Харьковской областями», - цитирует Чалого РИА Новости.

Пересечение через Харьков - лично у меня вызывает странное ощущение..... - почему через Харьков и кто и кого хочет обмануть и обыграть .... в этой непонятке... Игроков на Украине, чем дальше - все больше. Украинцев можно только пожалеть - они умудряются не только играть сами с собой, но еще и совсем миров сразу.

При этом на сайте "Лента.ру" сообщается следующее 15:23, 12 августа 2014 в статье
"Киев отказался пустить российские колонны с гуманитарной помощью"

...«Мы не рассматриваем какой-либо [возможности проезда] российских колонн по украинской территории», — пояснил Чалый. По его словам, гуманитарная помощь будет перегружена и доставлена на Украину сотрудниками Международного комитета Красного креста. При этом украинские власти пообещали не допустить сопровождения колонны силами МЧС России"...

Отдать гуманитарный груз хунте это ..... не буду называть..., ну очень "демократично" - я думаю США будет приветствовать и скорее все очередные санкции не введут. Хунте для своей армии сегодня ну ... очень ... не хватает гуманитарки на востоке.

Ну очень хочется знать КТО и с кем играет в "кошки-мышки", а гуманитарная помощь через Харьков - вообще выглядит как-то не к месту после кровавых событий на Донбассе и возникает сразу больше вопросов, чем ответов.
Любым заверениям киевской хунты верить - то же что разговаривать со СТЕНКОЙ или иметь договоренности с США, которые любые договоренности принимают только в одностороннем движении, СВОЮ.

[surovts.valery]

Вот с официального сайта МКК WWW.icrc.org:

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Женева/Киев/Москва (МККК) – Международный Комитет Красного Креста (МККК) чрезвычайно обеспокоен тяжелым положением людей, нуждающихся в помощи и защите в результате конфликте на востоке Украины.
"Необходимо, чтобы помощь незамедлительно поступила людям в Луганске и других районах на востоке страны, в которых за последние недели развернулись ожесточенные бои, - сказал Лоран Корба, руководитель управления оперативной деятельности МККК в Европе и Центральной Азии. – Ситуация критическая – как сообщается, тысячи людей остались без воды, электричества и медицинской помощи".
В ответ на последнее выдвинутое властями Российской Федерации предложение о передаче гуманитарной помощи МККК, с тем чтобы помочь людям и улучшить положение в пострадавших от конфликта районах востока Украины, МККК готов оказать содействие проведению такой операции при участии, одобрении и поддержки всех заинтересованных сторон.
Сегодня представители МККК встретились с украинскими и российскими властями и передали им документ, в котором конкретизируются условия, при которых возможно проведение такой операции. В частности, для этого необходимо наличие договоренности между всеми сторонами о том, что МККК будет разрешено доставить помощь, и при этом будут должным образом соблюдены принципы нейтральности, беспристрастности и независимости, на которых основывается деятельность организации.
В документе также указано, что до начала операции МККК должен безотлагательно получить от властей Российской Федерации всю необходимую информацию, касающуюся помощи, включая количество и вид товаров, а также требования к его транспортировке и хранению. Все стороны также должны гарантировать безопасность сотрудников и транспортных средств МККК на протяжении всей операции с учетом того, что организация не дает согласия на вооруженное сопровождение.

Почти тоже самое, что в статье. Но в свете последних заявлений всяких официальных лиц, в основном киевских, ситуация с конвоем становиться всё более напряженной. Кучма, как член контактной группы по переговорам (непонятно только каким, по конвою или прошедших ранее, по прекращению огня?), заявил, что конвой пойдет через Харьковскую область. Вот только в этом случае, на территорию, контролируемую ДНР и ЛНР он не попадет! Прочитайте отчеты о работе МККК на Украине: там им оказывается гуманитарная и медицинская помощь раненым, беженцам и т.п. в основном на территориях, городах контролируемых хунтой, а конкретно в Донецке или Луганске из их отчетов не понять. Конвой, доехав до "зоны т.н. АТО", а она включает в себя и Харьковскую область, с точки зрения МККК,формально выполнит свою задачу - помощь доставлена. Да, под контролем сотрудников МККК, разворовать помощь будет трудно. Она в основном дойдет до пострадавшего от действий укровоенных населения "освобожденных от сепаратистов территорий". В разрушенных укровояками городах население, получается будет выживать за счет России.Вот в этом и заключается коварство и хитрож..сть хунты. А люди в окруженных и сражающихся Донецке и Луганске этой помощи не получат. Поэтому надо, не взирая ни на что, везти помощь через Гуково, Новошахтинск, котролируемые ополченцами. А уж дальше, ополченцы обеспечат доставку, в этом сомнений быть не должно.

[Mountain shooter]

Давайте считать, что люди, планировавшие эту операцию, не глупее нас.
Рассмотрим совсем гнусный вариант. Помощь раскрадывают, не довозя до Новороссии. Прецедент!
Следующий ход. Вся остальная помощь, безо всяких согласований и МККК идет в Новороссию через открытую границу, и пусть кто нибудь вякнет по этому поводу.

[Deff]

Зачем,- самый простой вариант - слив ополчения за гуманитарку, кто из укропов отдаст переданный гуманитарный груз без ввода ввойск в город, как "как охранения"

Возможно это и был "хитрый план" ? Дай Бог, чтобы я ошибался!

Следующий ход. Вся остальная помощь, безо всяких согласований и МККК идет в Новороссию через открытую границу, и пусть кто нибудь вякнет по этому поводу.

Да, это единственный, и достойный вариант, - остаётся только надеяться!

[B.T.V.]

Очень хочется на это надеяться. Есть ещё мысля по- поводу этой, так разрекламированной гуманитарки, но боюсь озвучить, т.к. недруги тоже сюда заглядывают. В общем: надежда умирает последней.

[Russ69]

Quote: surovts.valery

Поэтому надо, не взирая ни на что, везти помощь через Гуково, Новошахтинск, котролируемые ополченцами.

Да, фиг Кремль, хоть шаг сделает, без одобрения и согласования. Боюсь все кончится по принципу "Хотели, как лучше, получилось, как всегда"...

[Earnest]

Quote: Generalissimus

На этот вопрос караванщик улыбнулся и ответил - лошадей.

Напомнило юморную историю из моего прошлого: выхожу из дома, направляюсь в сторону КПП, из соседнего подъезда вываливает ст. прапорщик, старшина из соседней части. Несет огроменную плотно набитую чем-то сумку. Я решил подколоть: "Валера, ты неправильный старшина! Ты же со службы домой должен полные сумки носить, а из дома - с пустой идти! У тебя же четверо детей, не заботишься о них?" Ответ: "В сумке мешки. Пока пустые."

[Themi30]

Это весьма серьёзная поддержка сил АТО, они о таком и не мечтали. Потому что только наивный поверит в то, что разгруженный на границе груз попадет в Донецк или Луганск. Он туда попадет только если камазы разгрузятся там! Но украинцы этого не разрешат и не допустят.

[RUSLAT]

Обама озабочен, Псаки озабочена, Госдеп озабочен.... Помните, что ,,сильно озабоченных" кастрируют......

[Dave36]

Если дадим перегрузить груз...поддержим АТО!!

[Novosib]

Попробовать провести гуманитарный конвой через структуры подконтрольные Киеву--нормальный ход. Конвой они,естественно, тормознут на границе под предлогом таможенного контроля и перегрузки на свой транспорт. Пусть перегрузят три грузовика и под контролем Красного креста доставят этот груз в Луганск. Задача для укропитеков невыполнимая. Хунта ничего ополчению передавать не будет, иначе, их порвут свои же укропы-патриоты. Понятно, что гуманитарная помощь людям, больше всего пострадавшим от карательной операции не дойдет. Имея некоторое представление об особенностях национального менталитета великих укров, можно предположить, что помощь будет тупо разворована. О том, как укропитеки разворовали помощь и выставили отдельные позиции на продажу в инете, узнает весь мир. При этом, гуманитарная ктастрофа в Новороссии будет только нарастать. Россия, ссылаясь на необходимость принятия конкретных мер по нормализации обстановки, вынуждена будет искать альтернативные пути доставки гуманитарной помощи, которые, я думаю, уже существуют. Красный крест на альтернативные способы доставки не согласится, что позволит расширить номенклатуру поставок.

[Rodriques]

Украина собирается задержать колонну с гуманитарной помощью из России на границе. Об этом заявил представитель администрации президента Украины Валерий Чалый.

"ни в коем случае не пущать, это не Российские камазы, это Оптимусыпраймы и Бамблби"

Страна тварей, как ровнять города с землей можно, гуманитарку, кричат нельзя.

[fyodor]

Блин, достал этот бабама своей озабоченностью, если он такой озабоченный, что ему мешает самому собрать гуманитарную помощь в таком же количестве(а не пресловутый пакетик печенья) и отослать по назначению жителям Донбасса и Луганщины,а? просто по его понятиям там люди не голодают,живут хорошо, да и не люди это вовсе. Га.н.дон озабоченный, чесс слово.

[VadimL]

Простите ребята. Но мне кажется, что укропы пропустят гуманитарную колонну только за тем, чтоб ее после расстрелять и ограбить. Для них это будет только лишний повод втянуть Россию в войну.
Я считаю, что как только Российская гуманитарная колонна пересечет границу руины, она сразу же будет разгромлена и разграблена. Причем. Сделано это будет в максимально жестокой форме. Будут трупы, пытки и убийства. А Пи.ндо.сы тут же поддержат это.

[Radical]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Quote: herruvim

and the US State Department continues to "express concern"

And if, at the sight of the Russian column, Parashenko will rush out of the country. The whole deal at the State Department will fly.

Вот все, как всегда - некоторые сразу начинают фонтанировать. Мол "мы им сделаем то..., мы им сделаем се..., и вообще мы им...! Нервным просьба успокоиться! Сегодня, В 18-00, в новостном выпуске телеканала "Звезда" было сказано, что гуманитарный груз на границе с Харьковской областью будет перегружен на украинский автотранспорт, арендованный МКК. И куда он дальше попадет,во всяком случае большая его часть - "тайна сия великая есть"! То ли в магазины Харькова, принадлежащие Добкину и Кернесу (современный Азеф похоже),то ли в укроармию и нац.гвардию, а может и то ,и другое, и третье. Там ведь большая партия спальных мешков, а к зимней кампании готовиться-то надо. Так что время покажет, как оно будет на самом деле.

[Vixen]

«любая интервенция под предлогом гуманитарной помощи должна осуществляться только с формального, четко выраженного согласия и разрешения правительства Украины»
Это что за бред? Как это читать? Интервенция должна быть с разрешения правительства? Все виды интервенции несовместимы с Уставом ООН и запрещены международным правом, вроде бы!

[cap54]

just read:
Украина задержит колонну с гуманитарной помощью из РФ на границе


Украина собирается задержать колонну с гуманитарной помощью из России на границе. Об этом заявил представитель администрации президента Украины Валерий Чалый.

“In the transit zone there will be customs clearance, customs clearance. The Red Cross is responsible for this, and it delivers this humanitarian aid throughout Ukraine. The cargo will be loaded onto vehicles that the Red Cross rents, ”said Chaly.
According to him, trucks from Russia in any case will not be allowed into Ukrainian territory. Attempts by the column to break through the border will be perceived by Kiev as an act of aggression.

[Vixen]

Если только разгрузиться на нашей стороне и, как прежде, на ГАЗелях ополченцам возить тайными тропами!

[Loner_53]

Украина собирается задержать колонну с гуманитарной помощью из России на границе. Об этом заявил представитель администрации президента Украины Валерий Чалый.Печально,как бы помощь в другие руки не попала,укрокаклам веры нет. Будем надеяться что помощь дойдет до Новороссии

[xxtiheroxx]

Уже в Воронеже,быстро доехали)В новостях пишут,будут на Балтиморе ночевать!http://www.moe-online.ru/news/view/297997.html Сходить посмотреть))

[gammipapa]

Какой то уж больно извращенный ход с этой колонной .
Очень смахивает на дружескую помощь нашей пятой колоны украинским воякам . Типа не ходите больше к нам через границу в плен покушать ,мы вам сами все привезем . Не находите ?
Но тогда кто даст гарантии без военного сопровождения ,что она вообще сможет двигаться в сторону Донбаса и Луганска ? Кто не даст разгрузить грузовики сразу после пересечения границы - никто и красный крест утрется и наши промолчат .
Ну а если мы вдруг защищать эту клону оружием будем - так нас уже три месяца ждут не дождутся когда же мы войну то начнем . Просто в ладоши хлопать будут .

[Deff]

Буржуйская пресса пишет, что колонна будет на границе в среду утром