Ron Paul: US authorities hide information about Malaysian Boeing crash

August 12 2014

According to the former member of the House of Representatives of the US Congress, the ex-presidential candidate Ron Paul, it is unlikely that the US intelligence services have no information about who is responsible for the crash of the Malaysian Boeing 777, since their spy satellites control everything happening in Ukraine .

Ron Paul: US authorities hide information about Malaysian Boeing crash

“It’s hard to imagine that the United States, having many reconnaissance satellites that monitor everything that happens in Ukraine, does not have accurate evidence of who did what and when,” said Paul RIA "News".

According to him, representatives of American intelligence told the world only that they had no evidence of the involvement of the Russian Federation in the plane crash, but propaganda in the United States was able to convince ordinary Americans of the opposite.

Ex-Congressman is confident that the evidence that contradicts the accusations of the American authorities will never be made public because of the threat to national security.

“A serious international incident still leaves questions. Sadly, we cannot expect our government to tell the truth and provide evidence. I am convinced that it knows much more than it tells us, ”said Ron Paul.

Photos used:: http://ria.ru/

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Baatyr 12 August 2014 11: 37
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Unfortunately, nothing happens in this world without the knowledge of the Americans ... They only rarely share information, since often, according to them, it threatens their national security.
1. Ingvar 72 12 August 2014 11: 39
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  without the knowledge of the Americans, nothing is happening in this world ...
  Everything is relative. They do not affect us.
  1. supertiger21 12 August 2014 11: 40
    
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    I hope the leadership of the United States and Ukraine will pay for the lies at the expense of the tragedy of the Malaysian Boeing!
    1. Paradoxov 12 August 2014 11: 53
      
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      And where will they go then? Sooner or later, the fog of the rassosets and ...
      Many people already have the veil subsiding, they already write:
      
      Well-known politicians of the EU countries, diplomats and parliamentarians are demanding that the US and Europe immediately lift sanctions against Russia - as retaliatory, “tidy” counter-sanctions have begun to seriously kill the economy of the EU countries. According to reporters quoting the statements, demands and statements of politicians, Europe was truly “stalled”.
      ...
      
      http://stockinfocus.ru/2014/08/12/evropa-trebuet-snyat-sankcii-s-rossii-i-prinos
      
      it-izvineniya /
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      And the Dutch apologized to Putin for the "wild lies of the West." What are you talking about? The famous Dutch organization De Ommeker sharply condemned the actions of Washington and Brussels and "their chosen way to resolve the conflict in Ukraine." On behalf of the “majority of Dutch citizens,” the authors of the open letter apologized for the actions of their government and the media.
      
      “We only have to be powerless observers and witnesses that Western countries under the leadership of the United States accuse Russia of crimes that they commit themselves on an incomparable scale,” they write.
      1. papas-57 12 August 2014 22: 37
        
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        "The well-known Dutch organization De Ommeker strongly condemned the actions of Washington and Brussels." Come on, you wishful thinking. Read our newspapers less and watch the news. Yes, 99 out of 100 people have not heard of this "well-known organization" even in Holland itself. Our media write what our government wants, and the government wants Russia to be quiet and calm after the imposition of sanctions. They will calmly survive these sanctions at the top, and ordinary people will again have a hard time. These sanctions will come back to haunt not now, but in 2-3 years.
  2. Tersky 12 August 2014 11: 44
    
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    Quote: Ingvar 72
    They do not affect us and you.
    
    The same is true, since attempts to influence are endless, take the same story with Boeing. Igor
    1. herruvim 12 August 2014 11: 53
      
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      The assumptions of experts that the crash of the Malaysian Boeing were planned in advance by the Ukrainian military were confirmed by representatives of the CyberBerkut Internet community. Hackers have published the correspondence of Svyatoslav Oleinik with Yuri Bereza, who are assistants to the governor of the Dnipropetrovsk region Igor Kolomoisky. Messages were written immediately after the crash of the Malaysian plane.
      
      Birch: "... by land - by direct - by air"
      
      Oleynik: “And what air ... ???”
      
      Birch: “They said that he could not stay there for long, such as high. Made one straight. It didn’t. Then I had to air. "
      
      Oleynik: “Why did they first raise the Kharkov ones?”
      
      Birch: “They said that at first the team came from Kiev to the Kharkov console, and when it started to unfold, then they connected the rest.”
      1. herruvim 12 August 2014 11: 54
        
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        Judging by the correspondence, representatives of the Ukrainian authorities developed a tragic scenario in advance and how the crash of the liner will be covered in the press in the future. The discussion is also attended by the new Minister of Defense of Ukraine Valery Geletey. We are talking about news reports. Military official, very dissatisfied with the work done.
        
        Geletey: “I remind you of the promise of your boss: I never got any scripts from you! Tomorrow morning, when you will pass me the report, send me the scripts and the video that you made. ”
        
        Oleinik: “Valery Viktorovich, the boss gave the task to the director of the channel a week ago! He, the bastard, has lost fear - delayed with terms! But today they are all done. Sketched more than 10 scenarios, for different scenarios, for the first two days. Now they are working on the next three days. In the morning I’ll send you everything. ”
        
        Recall, immediately after the tragedy, the Russian Ministry of Defense provided evidence of the involvement of the Ukrainian military in the deaths of almost three hundred passengers - data from objective control of the crash zone. According to which, on the day of the tragedy, the dispatchers fixed a Ukrainian attack aircraft next to the Malaysian airliner. Another fighter fenced in the area of the fall of the Boeing and watched the situation.
        
        The version that the Boeing was shot down precisely with the help of attack aircraft is also supported by Malaysian experts. In their opinion, the first air-to-air missile was launched on a passenger airliner, and then it was finished out from a 30-mm gun.
        
        THIS IS HIDDEN, NITS
        
        max702 12 August 2014 13: 11
        
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        So it was, it’s a pity that everything was left to chance again in the conflict zone, a couple of months ago it was clear that such a scenario was possible, and therefore the analysts of the Moscow Region, the FSB and other departments should take all possible measures to carefully document this action by technical means up to video shooting, I understand that it is very difficult to organize technically, but judging by the circle of people, the scale of the operation is considerable, and therefore leaks are inevitable, so it was necessary to work out everything clearly, you forgive me, but this is the work of special services, and so on the face of another oversight of the evidence provided is clearly not enough .. Personally, I see such a picture that after the appearance of information about a possible airplane crash (and it should have been) a couple of three crews from different bourgeois television channels (pre-fed sensational material and sitting at a low start) of OSCE observers, and other independent up to military attaches, all this mosquito sits in turntables and with a good military pr hatching landed at the crash site after half an hour at the same time going live .. The sky itself is closed tightly, the approaches are controlled, and in the media on the Internet and television its own operation has been launched like the mattresses were unfolded with comrades on 08.08.08 .. Tell me Hollywood the script and it is difficult to implement? I agree this is a very difficult job! But with our opponent you can only fight straining all your forces and resources, it will be much more effective than that bleating with poking willows and obscure muddy photographs and briefing schemes that the average person does not understand if he wants, information (picture) must be submitted so that the last idiot I realized that his native authorities ... are holding on to a full ram only then there will be an effect ..
    2. Ingvar 72 12 August 2014 11: 58
      
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      Greetings Victor! Indirectly, of course, there is influence, but we influence them too. The role of the United States in this conflict (war and economic confrontation) is certainly large, but not a decisive fact. I have a feeling that we and Europe are being led to some kind of denominator, and whether the United States plays the role of a puppeteer is a big question. Perhaps they are also used. I, as you probably already noticed, am a fan of conspiracy theories, and for some reason I think that such issues are resolved at the supranational level.
2. DVxa 12 August 2014 11: 40
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  And deceive their last business ..
  Well, democracy, everyone tells what they want, everyone thinks how they say ...
3. subbtin.725 12 August 2014 11: 43
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  Ex-Congressman is confident that the evidence that contradicts the accusations of the American authorities will never be made public because of the threat to national security.
  
  Indeed, it will sooner bring closer the imminent collapse of the United States.
4. GSH-18 12 August 2014 11: 48
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  Unfortunately, nothing happens in this world without the knowledge of the Americans ...
  
  Do not overestimate them so much. Americosia is far from a land of gods and supermen. Their global "control" is also relative. Now, under the direct leadership of the Russian Federation, a world anti-American coalition is being formed, led by the BRICS and the CSTO, the CU. Let us recall at least the line of heads of Latin American states to receive Putin during his brilliant Latin American tour! The creak of teeth of the State Department was heard in all corners of the globe
5. Giant thought 12 August 2014 11: 54
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  What mattresses all over the world will say that they ordered a Boeing? Yes, never. They will do everything possible from them so that the world does not know the truth.
Duke 12 August 2014 11: 38
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A dog knows whose meat is eaten.
1. Момент 12 August 2014 11: 41
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  Yes, everything America knows. Only, something went wrong right away, and the result was not the expected result.
  And now they are trying to release everything on the brakes.
svp67 12 August 2014 11: 38
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Ron Paul: US authorities hide information about Malaysian Boeing crash
and not only hide, but also desperately FALSE, preparing to lay out these "evidence"
Arhj 12 August 2014 11: 40
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Now he would have been released to the screen of the state television sets. And so this is just the opinion of an intelligent person - the brain among the stomachs.
Koloradovatnik 12 August 2014 11: 40
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And what the US authorities are not hiding? Your own "heroic" story of Batman and Superman?
MSA 12 August 2014 11: 42
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There is nothing surprising in this.
Veteran of the Red Army 12 August 2014 11: 46
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“A serious international incident still leaves questions. It is sad that we cannot count on our government to tell the truth and provide evidence. I am convinced that it knows much more than it tells us. ”

Great Lies on Earth launched,
Those forces that are very afraid of Russia.
But, if we know the secret plans,
Neither Merkel are afraid of us, nor Obama.
Stiletto 12 August 2014 11: 46
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There is no "evidence of Russia's involvement", but they are actively working on it. Over time, of course, real facts will emerge, but so far the states keep these trump cards up their sleeves, and the junta are on this hook, from which they cannot get off. For the Kiev fascists are no longer elbow-deep in blood - they are smeared from head to toe.
UzRus 12 August 2014 11: 49
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Ha, Ron Paul discovered America ...
2224460 12 August 2014 11: 49
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Quote: Baatyr
Unfortunately, nothing happens in this world without the knowledge of the Americans ... They only rarely share information, since often, according to them, it threatens their national security.

Correct you, NOTHING GOOD without the knowledge of the Americans in this world is not done, they can only crap.
1. Boa kaa 12 August 2014 20: 23
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  Correct you
  
  Fullness, sir, to be clever. The great and mighty Russian language does not forgive mistakes with such a free attitude towards it.
  Phrase
  NOTHING GOOD without the knowledge of the Americans in this world is not done
  . Bears POSITIVE rather than negative semantic load: dr. in words - all good things are done with the knowledge of amers! This is clearly not what you wanted to say, but it turned out the way it turned out ...
  And they would write simply and with taste: USERS - sv.lo.chi, can only spoil, and all the bad happens with their knowledge and approval.
  Do not be offended, but it is.
ALABAY45 12 August 2014 11: 49
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"because of the threat to national security."
Even under the rim of the toilet bowl, Americans see a threat to national security! Well, they dropped the dill out of their stupidity and stupidity, and at the whim of the United States, "Boeing" ?! Who can prove this whim then? And Ukraine will go for a "goat" ... What is the threat to national security here ?!
mig31 12 August 2014 11: 53
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America is mired in lies by the most unlucky, and therefore they go off-road, but this path is not endless ...
bergberg 12 August 2014 11: 57
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We hope that there is another Snowden and will merge information to the whole world that it was America from its satellites that was guiding the ukropov fighter that shot down the Boeing. And all the leadership was planned and led by America!
1. Boa kaa 12 August 2014 20: 40
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  this is America from its satellites induced ukropovsky fighter that shot down a Boeing.
  
  Fantasy! Yes, Ukropov doesn’t have such equipment, I’m afraid that even a simple GPS router on their Su-25 is not worth it.
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  And the whole leadership was planned and led by America!
  , Probably "and all the action", well, maybe "provocation"? AND?
  Certainly, there were some dirty CIA hands here. But only at the planning and coordination stage. But the performers got amer ... well ochchchen oak. The Maydauns could not bring their plans to life with Italian "grace" (Giulio Cesare). That is why everything turned out to be sewn with white threads.
  And now both inspirers and performers are head over heels in daisies, and they have nothing to say, by and large. Although ICAO is suspiciously silent, the voice recorder has survived. He cannot, as on the tower, be taken to the SBU and said that "it was so!"
Resident007 12 August 2014 11: 58
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Sometimes it seems that everything is just going according to the plan of the United States ... They destroyed Ukraine, staged a coup. A pro-American government was created in Kiev. Another, as close as possible step to the border of Russia .. And Russia did not take Crimea, but returned it !!! I wonder who is next and who will stop them ... Because, judging from the news, ours are already quite legitimate and normally conducting business and negotiations with "such" Kiev. WITH Fascists !!! It's simple HOW?!? The news media are doing their terrible thing. The only question is: WHOM DO WE WORK FOR ???
1. Boa kaa 12 August 2014 20: 56
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  And Russia did not take Crimea, but returned !!!
  
  Listen! White-white and very hot! Wah! (S)
  The irrepressible flight of fantasy is good in novels, not in real life. The inhabitants of Crimea, I am afraid, will not appreciate your fabrications: they are legally and actually part of RUSSIA.
  And the latent rejection of Pu and his policies is not a reason for such a comment. IMHO.
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    Listen here. The KAA boa constrictor is your comment, just a set of words ... did you understand what you wanted to say ??? Illiteracy you. Learn to express thoughts correctly. I did not understand about Crimea at all - did you want to explain something to me ??? What a rejection of Pu ??? Pump up your brain, donkey.
HAM 12 August 2014 12: 00
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Cool screen - "threat to national security", because of it you can bomb, spy, rob ...!
givigor71 12 August 2014 12: 01
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Lies, lies and again lies
dchegrinec 12 August 2014 12: 03
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An interesting interpretation: since we can’t prove that the Russians shot down a Boeing, then the situation is mysterious ... maybe we’ll tell fortunes for a hundred years, who could it be ..
iiggi 12 August 2014 12: 11
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It is clear that they will not tell the truth, they should say that our chain dog, the parashka, broke the chain and decided to hunt. Most likely, they will say that there is no evidence, but Russia is to blame, because there is no one else! Therefore, it is very vain that the black boxes were sent to the UK, it would be better if Malaysia itself examined them.
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Quote: Baatyr
Unfortunately, nothing happens in this world without the knowledge of the Americans ... They only rarely share information, since often, according to them, it threatens their national security.

That is why it is necessary to debunk the "world gendarmes" and presumptuous "arbiters of human destinies". Russia has taken the lead in this struggle and a lot is already working out. And when considering any processes in the world, especially crimes, there is an ancient criterion - Look, who benefits from it ...
wladimir 12 August 2014 12: 16
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According to him, representatives of American intelligence only told the world that they have no evidence of Russian involvement in the crash, but propaganda in the United States could convince ordinary Americans of the opposite, that’s the trick, and so around the world, the information war is winning on outright lies
nikkon09 12 August 2014 12: 18
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"there is no evidence of the involvement of the Russian Federation" -We turn on the logic ..... and it turns out that there is evidence of the downing of the plane by the Maydanuts, but they cannot be shone .... The curtain .... the show continues ...
Well, adversaries, do you want a war? I have them, but not now, when we are ready for war, you will know the very first ones, but this will not add to your joy. And now the cherished dream is that the Germans would be on our side and it would be that Russian and German are good . I will explain the people close to us in spirit - both the worker and the warrior lie under the USA, the Germans are not in our opinion, get together, get smarter already ...
kot28.ru 12 August 2014 12: 26
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The states know what happened in Ukraine, just as everyone knows about Iraq, Libya, Yugoslavia, the list is big, they know because they themselves are ORGANIZERS !!! Because no one in the world will know the truth! USA SHOULD BE DESTROYED !!!
Vasily V 12 August 2014 13: 01
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What happened to the Boeing777 of flight MH17 everyone knows, he was shot down. Many people know who shot down - these are Ukrainian troops. How shot down - guess, most likely the Ukrainian Air Force. But why shot down? Crap Russia on the model of Korean Boeing? Somehow it didn’t work out. Probably the answer to this question we will not know soon.
1. Boa kaa 12 August 2014 21: 18
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  Crap Russia on the model of Korean Boeing?
  Probably, such a plan was also. But, the main goal is to blame the leadership of the DPR for this, to declare the militias as a terrorist organization with all the ensuing consequences. And with terrorists (outside the law) you can act at your own discretion, not bothering with the choice of means. Although, the junta doesn’t seem to bother with this undercover from the US.
avt 12 August 2014 13: 04
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The Malaysians specifically voiced that they shot down ykry from the plane and NOT ONE B ... b no sound or pro-ron according to this statement! Quietly everyone will be let down on the brakes as with Litvinenko.
Leonardo 12 August 2014 14: 19
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I don't know where the ANGER comes from at the word "America", the USA, NATO, "And not even anger, but like ..." Oh, again, the USA ... well, what to take from them ... such a way of life. "Their way of life. ..DESTROY OTHERS, for the sake of "the interests of US national security." But these "interests" extend far beyond their own territory. Not even anger, but ... contempt. Well, what the ... SHLOIBEN, these Americans? knocking on the door ... they sit down at the table with their legs raised ... without asking the owner of the house whether he likes it or not. Not US citizens, but some presumptuous herd of lawless people who believed in their exclusivity. it's time to put this shameless beast on a chain.
1. Boa kaa 12 August 2014 21: 21
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  . time to put this shameless beast on a chain.
  well no! Rabid dogs - shoot!
BIP PS FSB RF 12 August 2014 15: 12
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Quote: Baatyr
Unfortunately, nothing happens in this world without the knowledge of the Americans ... They only rarely share information, since often, according to them, it threatens their national security.

I suspect that we can lay out a more specific situation than we suggested, but ... But ...
Slovek 12 August 2014 15: 14
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It was possible to sue these media outlets for pretty fine amounts and let them publicly justify themselves by lying and paying compensation for moral damage to our country. And apply to all the media and to all officials who accused Russia of crashing the plane. When grandmas start paying, they will think next time before yelling. And if you keep silent, then their whole society will think that again the Russians are to blame.
Past_ Crocodile 12 August 2014 15: 55
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Quote: Paradoxov
Many people already have the veil subsiding, they already write:
Well-known EU politicians, diplomats and parliamentarians are demanding that the US and Europe immediately lift sanctions against Russia

Famous who is this? - they are presidents, defense ministers, multibillionaires, in short - what do they influence?
Pajamas 12 August 2014 16: 44
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Rarely, recently, one can meet an adequate reaction in the USA to events in Ukraine, but if you read VO then we have an adequate population even less, you read and it seems that everything is flooded with schoolchildren and vocational school graduates, returning to the overseas adequacy here is another sane opinion , albeit on an exalted "echo" - http://www.echomsk.spb.ru/blogs/RobertParry/22716.php
bubla5 12 August 2014 17: 17
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Well, if the Americans are silent, then 100% Ukrainians shot down
el.krokodil 12 August 2014 18: 05
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Quote: DVxa
And deceive their last business ..
Well, democracy, everyone tells what they want, everyone thinks how they say ...
it’s interesting, but who considers whom to be their own? .. Americans consider themselves to be their own people, and they don’t hide this too much ... Ben Laden was once a friend too ..
Vlad5307 12 August 2014 20: 15
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Amer’s owns those who bring them income in the beak or, at least, does not interfere with making money on blood !!!
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America is mired in lies by the most unlucky, and therefore they go off-road, but this path is not endless ...

It's time to forget about this unfortunate Boeing. The provocation failed .. and all the media of the countries of "free democracy" quietly closed this issue ... since the culprit pointed out to himself with his stupidity. The decoding of the black boxes was safely classified .... Everyone is happy. . all laugh. Now we will wait for the next development of the provocation of the "brothers" from Dill and AI.