Information on the cost of the program of import substitution

The gap in military-technical cooperation with Ukraine is forcing the Russian leadership to look for ways to replace imported components. Back in the spring, work began on creating an import substitution program, which should lead to the deployment of Russian manufacturing enterprises to various products that until recently were supplied by Ukrainian factories. According to various sources, to date, the program has been developed and sent to the military and political leadership of the country for consideration. Last Monday new details of the plans of official Moscow appeared in the national press.

The Izvestia publication, citing its sources in the government, claims that all the work on replacing imports of Ukrainian products will cost Russia about 50 billion rubles. The program has been drafted, its main points have been defined and the Ministry of Finance is currently reviewing the amendments to the federal budget for 2014-16 proposed by the Ministry of Industry and Trade for the current program. Source "Izvestia" in the Ministry of Finance called the planned expenditure on import substitution is quite real.

The topic of abandoning Ukrainian-made components is not the loudest and most discussed, but one of the most important issues of recent times. The sharp deterioration in relations with Ukraine, which occurred after the change of power in Kiev, led to a number of unpleasant consequences. So, in the spring of this year, new Kiev authorities began to threaten the cessation of cooperation in various fields, including military-technical. In June, these threats became a reality: the new president of Ukraine, Petro Poroshenko, ordered all defense enterprises to completely stop collaborating with their Russian colleagues.

In the spring, the Russian Ministry of Industry and Trade studied the risks associated with the termination of cooperation with Ukraine. The result of this was a plan of action, as a result of which the production of all the necessary components will go to Russian enterprises, and the import of Ukrainian products will cease as unnecessary. The implementation of the program of import substitution will take no more than a few years. For example, in May, Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said that the implementation of all these plans would take about 2,5-3 years. At the same time, the head of the military department noted that the program being developed will make it possible for defense enterprises to provide not only independence, but also additional added value.

Izvestia published some details of the technical and technological part of the import substitution program. The publication claims that a full list of products that will be produced in Russia in the near future has already been prepared and agreed upon by the relevant ministries. These are more than 3 of thousands of types of various components, which until recently were supplied by 160 by Ukrainian enterprises. Imported products were used in the construction of more than 200 types of weapons and military equipment.

An interesting fact is that the import substitution program, it seems, provides for a large proportion of the participation of domestic enterprises. According to "Izvestia", they will not only produce new products for themselves, but also take on some of the related work. So, most of the work under the program will be implemented at the expense of the enterprises involved in them. Probably, a number of defense enterprises will be interested in such participation in the program, since self-financing of the development of new products can be a good investment in the future. In addition, we should not forget about the share of state participation. Judging by the published data, the state will take the most active part in the development of the necessary industries.

A source of "Izvestia" in the government said that for a number of positions, defense enterprises will need government support. Relevant activities should be carried out within the framework of the state program for the development of industry and the state defense order.

Unfortunately, the full official information about the program of import substitution has not yet been published. There are only some statements by officials that do not reveal all the details of the program, as well as publications citing unnamed sources in various departments. However, the available information suggests that the import substitution program has already been developed and is currently “going on instances”. Thus, the implementation of the developed plans may begin in the next few months, by the end of the year.

The main task of the developed program of import substitution is to ensure the independence of the domestic defense industry from components produced by a no longer reliable partner - Ukraine. It is assumed that over the next few years, Russian enterprises will master the production of all the necessary components, from various engines to radio-electronic equipment.

Nevertheless, there is reason to believe that even with the successful completion of the import substitution program, the Russian military and industry will have to change existing plans. The current state armaments program has been developed taking into account cooperation with foreign suppliers, including Ukrainian ones. The termination of the supply of their products, even if such products will soon be made in Russia, will affect the pace of construction of new equipment for the armed forces. Thus, it will be necessary to revise some plans for re-equipment and change the timing of their implementation.

As a result, current events will have both negative and positive consequences for the domestic defense industry and the armed forces. The lack of supply of imported components requires you to spend time on the development of the production of similar products, which will affect the timing of all planned projects. At the same time, as a result of the import substitution program, domestic enterprises will master the production of a large number of important products, including those that were previously either fully purchased abroad or produced in Russia in insufficient quantities. The implementation of existing plans will not be cheap and fast, but the planned program will fully justify itself and all the costs of mastering the production of the necessary components.


On the materials of the sites:
http://izvestia.ru/
http://ria.ru/
http://vz.ru/

Comments

[RESEARCHER]

Very good. We do not throw away this money, but we direct it to the real sector. This is the development of the economy.

[anip]

Quote: RESEARCHER

Very good. We do not throw away this money, but we direct it to the real sector. This is the development of the economy.

And now the question:
And how much money will REALLY reach the goal, and not be stolen by any kind of hearty comrades?

[mirag2]

50 billion rubles? Total?
I thought $ 50 billion would cost!

[ATATA]

Quote: mirag2

50 billion rubles? Total?

The question is, if it costs only 50 billion, then why haven't you done it before?

[IAlex]

Previously, they bought Mercedes on them under the slogan of modernization, when it was possible to buy cheaper over the hill there, cheaper than your own.

[RESEARCHER]

Already comes and really. When the cases of Ukrainian relays have a different arrangement of terminals, it is urgent to redo the circuit boards.

[Gamdlislyam]

Quote: anip

And now the question: And how much money will REALLY reach the goal, and not be stolen by some kind of hearty comrades?

Dear colleague Andrei IvanYch, without a doubt, they will steal something. Not without it. However, when these products were made in Ukraine, dragged, that is, they sawed, no less, if not more. It was harder to control in that chain. Yes, and the quality was not so hot (I came across some products from an independent one).
This program has positive aspects. These are additional jobs for our citizens and production in their own country. We will not depend on the mood of foreign politicians, especially in the field of defense of the country.

[ADK57]

Again, mention darling Serdyukov!
How long to!
D.A. Medvedev even praised him and gave him the title of Hero of Russia, and V.V. Putin was appointed to the highest command post of the army in his first presidential term.

[core]

if you put the questions like that, it may not be worth maintaining the army, this is from that "opera", but why live all one we will die!

[Shur]

You are just like an investigator. Who knows? If someone knows, he will not say.

[Alekseev]

Quote: RESEARCHER

We don’t throw this money away

Yes sir!
And the money is not very big. On the problematic Mistrals, our thieving field-assisted furniture found more.

[Alekseev]

Well, minuscule not bags tossing, I will not be poorer.
But nevertheless it is extremely interesting that there are still lunatics who do not understand that the deal with the Mistrals showed firsthand the whole danger of large-scale military cooperation with countries, to put it mildly, not allied to us.

[mejik]

And also showed that the likely allies grit their teeth, but the Mistrals do. The contract, you know, holier than the pope. And this will be a moral victory if the Mistrals nevertheless get to us.
"The capitalists themselves will sell us a rope on which we hang them." (FROM)

[NAPOLEON]

the real economy is oil and gas. end green papers and the end of our VPK

[Good cat]

“As a result, the current events will have both negative and positive consequences for the domestic defense industry and the armed forces.” All the same, there are probably more positive consequences.

[volodyk50]

As a result, current events will have both negative and positive consequences for the domestic defense industry and the armed forces.

It means that at the moment the enterprises of the military-industrial complex are very densely loaded according to the State Defense Order, the transition to ERI and components of domestic production will "slightly" slow down the production process according to current orders, because the development and launching of production is, say, not an easy thing, only PI, MVI and GI it can take several years, and military products must correspond in quality to GOSTs, which provide for a special procedure for certification and product quality assessment, as well as taking into account the specifics of control at each production site by both internal technical control services and customer representatives.
At the same time, I would like to add that in addition to the program for replacing Ukrainian goods, from 2012 onwards, defense industry enterprises have been implementing programs to replace ERI and foreign-made components.

[Suhow]

Yaytsenyuhi brought the country to war, this was not enough, after the refusal of the Russian Federation from Ukrainian supplies, most of the industry will fall. The people will lose their jobs with the following conclusions, is it interesting that the respected oligarchs will have time to shed during the collapse? After all, the current ones will cut them patriots, and some will have military experience, I think very many will unite and fail at the europu will not work.

[aszzz888]

Information on the cost of the program of import substitution

No matter how much it costs, it has long been replaced by NADO. I hope that everything went quietly, and God forbid!

[samoletil18]

Even when conversations began about the return of the Crimea to Russia, I wrote in the comments that this is the first step towards restoring our own economy (bases of economic pressure will not do). If the Russian Federation is not involved in an armed confrontation (there is such a probability), then maybe we are not, but our children, with a very high probability, will be sitting on VO behind Russian devices made on our elementary basis, on their own software. And to discuss that a domestic car is waiting a long time in line, and a foreign car is not a hunt.
But such a dream will come true. if import substitution will occur realistically, and not by obtaining the necessary products from the hillock in a roundabout way. And you need to start with agriculture: this country and the world will feel right away.

[max702]

The fact that we need to fully agree to work, but in the near future (20-30 years) it is impossible for us to be too small to pull all areas of economics and science (without it it is impossible to produce better products), the enormous size of the country, hostile neighbors and their roofs are added to this countries, and with this human and material costs .. If we were 500 million then yes, everything and everything would be enough (namely, sensible and high-class specialists in science, education, medicine, military affairs and many other areas) alas, the population is only 142 million so somewhere we will be ahead, and somewhere behind, as it was during the USSR, do not sell rotten elite and perhaps would have achieved their goal ..

[navara399]

No matter how anyone criticizes these actions, they are compelled and extremely necessary in the light of the situation being forced up by mattresses. The enemy is closer than ever!

[sergkar]

It's all good, it's a shame that, as always - Until the roasted rooster pecked, they barely moved!

[saag]

The first figure of the cost of the bridge to the Crimea was also around 50 billion, now it’s already 280

[fzr1000]

And, what is the big price of solving such an important issue? The main thing is that he decide at this price, although here you should not stand behind the price.

[saag]

Quote: fzr1000

although here it’s not worth the price.

So officials will make the import substitution program unreasonably expensive compared to foreign counterparts

[ADK57]

Peter I had a friend Aleksashka Menshikov. He did everything quickly and HALF. How did you end up? Link, exile, oblivion. And the bugs were a bit for theft. Well then there was no offshore.
Offshore is now there. A control ???? A punishment for theft ????
China's syllable is to resolve these issues.
We can????

And we all pull the old song about Hero of Russia Serdyukov.

[Cristall]

Quote: ADK57

Did everything fast and HALF

spruce branches of 3 altyn ....
Even Shafirov did not steal so much ...

[saag]

Quote: fzr1000

And, what is the big price of solving such an important issue?

about the crossing, the Chinese have proposed their own project of an underwater tunnel, which they built from the mainland to Macau and for 3 billion dollars

[fzr1000]

I wrote about import substitution. The Chinese need to be double-checked 10 times, a tunnel cannot be cheaper than a bridge. This is an axiom.

[Gardamir]

All modern events are well seen through the prism of history. In 1941, no one counted money. They simply took and transported all production, in extreme conditions, from the territory of the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic. And the country survived.

[ADK57]

In 1941 there was a planned centralized economy and a human conscience.
Depressed from overwork and from malnutrition, people voluntarily gave their last money to a state loan. Fell from malnutrition, but gave!
Now let's look at South-Eastern Ukraine. 5-7,5 million inhabitants. They are being killed, cities destroyed, and the militia is about 15 thousand. The middle class tried to escape to Poland, but no one was given refugee status there. And what happened in Slavyansk after the departure of the militia. The remaining cafes were filled with "golden youth". And all around is devastation. Will anyone give at least a hryvnia to a neighbor for housing restoration?
Now both in us and in Ukraine a generation of consumers and grabbers has grown.
Such will think only of their own benefit.
And the income stratification is monstrous.
I was amazed when I found out that the head of the district department of the Pension Fund of Russia receives 220 thousand per month. At the same time, the fund builds chic offices and .... hardly makes ends meet. They have no money!
The defense industry will be the same. The millions in salaries of "effective managers" and the plight of the rest.
Our brilliant United Russia (please do not cut back) in the State Duma simply does not notice this!
On the face of the implementation of another step Allen Dulles plan to destroy the identity of the nation.

[vodolaz]

How many nails have already dill pinned into the lid of the tomb of Ukraine and continue to do so. It is a pity for people who will remain without work, but, on the other hand, nothing prevents them from collecting a new Maidan and achieving something. In the southeast, people are fighting for their rights.

[nikkon09]

Glory to Ukraine for the fact that now our country will be engaged not only in production and modernization, but in the development of such technologies that we need. Even if the situation in Ukraine improves and they turn to us, they will not be able to return to our market ...

[gray]

Gentlemen, and after all, the West has made the most important thing; it has separated us.

[IAlex]

For all my 30 years, I have never in my life heard of any kind of alliance with the Ukrainians, even in the late 80s they everywhere from themselves built in the USSR pure independent and occupied Europeans who are not given, I’m a Nazi face, we live normally , I remember it was very small when they almost 90% voted for separation from the USSR, as a result of which it is impossible to separate what was not connected anyway ..

[Cristall]

Quote: IAlex

For all my 30 years, I have never in my life heard of any kind of alliance with the Ukrainians, even in the late 80s they everywhere from themselves built in the USSR pure independent and occupied Europeans who are not given, I’m a Nazi face, we live normally , I remember it was very small when they almost 90% voted for separation from the USSR, as a result of which it is impossible to separate what was not connected anyway ..

I live in Odessa from birth and never knew that I, my relatives and neighbors were building some kind of Europeans .. I recall that we were all Soviet citizens brought up according to uniform textbooks and ideas. We were all instilled with a global way of thinking (only Soviet and American people have this kind of thing) and we all measured by the fact that they were born in a large country on 1/6 of the land.

Despite the fact that I have lived in that country for only 9 years, I never noticed that Ukrainians were "Other" than Russians ... Yes, my wife is Russian - and we are no different. I was in St. Petersburg - the same people but gloomy, the same people in Belarus and Bryansk ...
I never felt that other people are here

[samoletil18]

Quote: Cristall

I live in Odessa since birth

I don’t know how it is now, but in 1988, in a famous pub on Deribasovskaya street, I managed to say “in your Ukraine” ... In general, the most delicate word was “poz” addressed to me. But for a mug of beer drunk by the conductor to the establishment, we paid as agreed, and the ruble was not his for the doorman.

[dchegrinec]

Russia essentially engaged in self-mockery with this cooperation with Ukraine, didn’t it be clear that sooner or later the shop would quickly disappear and it was necessary to resolve the issue of import substitution, as always in Russian: they waited a long time, but the scribe came unexpectedly.

[UzRus]

Something is not enough - 50 billion rubles ...

[APS]

Quote: anip

Quote: RESEARCHER

Very good. We do not throw away this money, but we direct it to the real sector. This is the development of the economy.

And now the question:
And how much money will REALLY reach the goal, and not be stolen by any kind of hearty comrades?

Having set a goal it is necessary to it, go at all costs and solve problems as they become available. They steal something - they will receive as it should. And if you sit still and do nothing but just criticize, then we won’t have anything, everything will be in a bolder nation that will not be afraid to try, take risks and will not give in to difficulties.

[Sergey-8848]

When asked: "The area of ​​western Europe" Wikipedia helpfully shows 3.9 million square kilometers. With such a request about Eastern Europe, Vicki has a stupor. True, after hesitating, it gives out the total area of ​​the whole of Europe - 10 million square meters. So what - where is Europe? Where did they rush, themselves being in the middle of it? Well, okay Georgia (it's like drawing borders), or Mongolia (remembering the past invented merits). And this is the middle Europeans, from which three days to ride to any border of Europe. However, the rope (as in the anecdote) was not taken away from these fools in time, so they still jump. Well...
PS Europe = English Channel for most of those who know what and where the English Channel is (left or right in the sun beyond the Carpathians). You want to become Europeans and be - well, and who you were before, think about it!

[IAlex]

Quote: IAlex

For all my 30 years, I have never in my life heard about any alliance with the Ukrainians, even in the late 80s they everywhere in themselves built in the USSR pure, independent and occupied Europeans who are not allowed to live normally , I remember it was very small when they almost 90% voted for separation from the USSR, as a result of which it is impossible to separate what was not connected anyway ..

By the way, my comment is clearly someone corrected without my knowledge (compare the one above and the comment that is, the text is the same, just prosetiruet it)

[Cristall]

it will be expensive. That's interesting ZM products sold in the Republic of Belarus and re-exported to the Russian Federation - it will cost Rybinskaya cheaper.
It's a hint.

[Chorus]

Quote: gray

Gentlemen, and after all, the West has made the most important thing; it has separated us.

I completely agree. In geopolitical terms, the West scored a goal against our goal and now we will have to essentially replace our products (Soviet ones). Now, if the West began to be adequately replaced - it would be good

[Uzer 13.]

Motor Sich does not intend to transfer its production to Russia
http://itar-tass.com/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1375808

[Gamdlislyam]

Quote: uzer 13

Motor Sich does not intend to transfer its production to Russia

The helicopter engines assembled at Motor Sich have a large share of Russian components. Without them, the plant will stop. This time.
The engines were created in Klimov Design Bureau, and therefore this is their intellectual property. These are two.
In Russia, production of engines of a new development, with parameters better than Svidomo’s, has already begun. By the end of 1915, the plant will reach indicators that will fully cover the demands in engines for the production of military vehicles and meet the demands of the Moscow Region, and a couple of years later, civil ones. These are three.
Buguslavsky (General Director of Motor Sich) has been talking about the deployment of assembly production of motors in Russia for three years already. long before the Maidan and the junta's coming to power. Now he is trying to maintain production, because understands that only Russia needs their products. And without these orders, the plant is bankrupt.

[Mountain shooter]

Close Rusnano, and send the freed money to the case. So far, this "ginger cat" organization has been successfully converting 100 billion rubles. in sawdust.

[Loner_53]

And we always have "UNTIL THE THUNDER DOES NOT CRASH, THE MAN WILL NOT CROSSED"

[Signaller]

Just like that, even flush on jo-e will not appear. People work-Think. You just need to think faster. Otherwise kirdyk will come to everyone.