Ukraine has completed the restoration of the first MiG-29, taken from the Crimean airfield Belbek

July 31, 2014 at the Kulbakino airfield, located in Nikolaev, a test flight of the first restored MiG-29 fighter, which is part of the 204th tactical brigade, took place aviation named after A.I. Pokryshkin of the Ukrainian Air Force, which was stationed at the Belbek Crimean airfield near Sevastopol, reports blog Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies.

The Lviv Aviation Repair Plant brigades and consolidated technical groups from other parts of the Ukrainian armed forces are participating in the restoration of the flight readiness of the vehicles removed from the Crimea.

Earlier it was reported that in the period from April to early June, the Russian side allowed Ukraine to pick up the 10 MiG-37 and MiG-29UB, as well as 29 L-1M39. In early June, the transfer of the Crimean technology was discontinued. A total of 1 MiG-7, 29 MiG-2UB and 29 L-3M39 remained at the Belk airfield, and, as noted by the Ukrainian newspaper "Krila Ukraini", it is the "most serviceable" cars of the brigade. It was also reported that the “Russian invaders” removed a lot of units and aggregates from the aircraft and left themselves a large amount of ground equipment.

Comments

[nikrandel]

It was not necessary to give them away !!!

[MSA]

Let the whole junta smoke bamboo and rejoice that at least something has been received.

[DPZ]

no "at least something" but it's 90% of all their aviation

[stalfal]

Quote: DPZ

no "at least something" but it's 90% of all their aviation

The militia will have something to try out freshly launched air defense systems.

[volot-voin]

Quote: stalfal

The militia will have something to try out freshly launched air defense systems.

It would be better if they didn’t give it to the militia, and so there’s enough on what to try the air defense systems. And even better would give Novorossia (also the Ukrainian side).

[old man54]

Novrossia still has no bases and service specialists! but to restore and give them to Assad, the Jews, if you press something, for the cost of restoration repair, yes, that's the topic! and Assad would be happy and grateful, otherwise he and the MiGs would feel really bad.

[CALL.]

31 July 2014 of the year at the Kulbakino airfield, located in Nikolaev, passed a test flight of the first restored fighter MiG-29, which is part of the 204 th tactical aviation brigade named after A.I. Pokryshkina Ukrainian Air Force, which was stationed at the Crimean airport Belbek near Sevastopol,

Our assistance to the Donbass militia, in addition to the cured and returned ukrovok through the humanitarian corridor.

[Ezhaak]

Quote: stalfal

On the other hand, there will be something to try out the freshly acquired air defense systems for.

A post written specifically for Psaki and Harp. Now they will have something to manipulate at their press briefings. By the way, a question, but how much were the air defense systems sold. Ruble thing, fifty dollars a bunch?

[Number 17]

Yes, one FIG knocked down. It’s a pity that such a plane as Mig29 will be shot down. But after all, the fulcrum is a fulcrum along the NATO base. Dash idiots super plane so they will drift through it.

[Salamander]

I have suspicions that Migi has only been painted. In the form in which they were delivered, they had to be restored for six months. Here are the freeloaders!

[Salamander]

Avakov was offended and minus.

[sergey261180]

Quote: nikrandel

It was not necessary to give them away !!!

And those who gave either morons or traitors.

[v245721]

but you don’t know whose order was.

[sergey261180]

Quote: v245721

but you don’t know whose order was.

Whose?

[RusDV]

"Russian invaders" removed from the aircraft many blocks and assemblies and left a large amount of ground equipment

Let them say thank you for not being fined for the ill-treatment of airplanes ...

[cap54]

Mr. Taburetkin

[demo]

Do not touch the saint!

[cap54]

I admit a mistake, I got a little in the heat ...

[Federal]

Quote sergey261180

And those who gave either morons or traitors.

Who knew that these tricks would be at war, at the beginning of the conflict, the Air Force was not used, they flew, but did not bomb.

[Associate Professor]

Quote: sergey261180

Quote: nikrandel

It was not necessary to give them away !!!

And those who gave either morons or traitors.

We are not at war with Ukraine, therefore the equipment is not a military trophy, therefore, it was transferred.

[Andriuha077]

therefore, technology is not a war trophy

On 11 on March 2014, the Supreme Council of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea and the Sevastopol City Council adopted a declaration on the independence of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea and the city of Sevastopol.

There was equipment.

“All military personnel who have expressed a desire to continue serving in the Ukrainian Armed Forces, having put their weapons under guard, are outside the military units and are preparing for an organized departure with personal belongings to Ukraine,” Gerasimov said. According to Gerasimov, in accordance with the agreement of the defense ministries of Russia and Ukraine, Ukrainian troops and members of their families "will be transported by rail"

Without weapons and equipment.

Now this is a Urym technique.

Next.

On 18 on March 2014, an agreement was signed on the incorporation of the Republic of Crimea and the city of Sevastopol into the Russian Federation on the rights of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation.

Obviously, not everyone knows.

Now this is Russian technology.

Next, someone passes the Russian technology to the Nazis.

Then, Nazi technology kills civilians.

[Cristall]

Quote: Andriuha077

Without weapons and equipment.
Now it is a Crimean technique.

no, legally Crimea has no right to nationalize neither the equipment nor the property of the Armed Forces of Ukraine or the fleet of the Navy. It is like Japan nationalizing Okinawa.
When the collapse of the USSR was Ukraine, theoretically, in general, the entire fleet of the USSR in Sevastopol could nationalize, but didn’t. There are agreements - which regulate these processes.
Crimea does not have the right to nationalize Ukrainian military property once. Delay sending the Ukrainian fleet two. In general, according to the principles, it was also necessary to agree (although here no one wants to)
But if everyone insists that it was a "peaceful" transition. It is necessary to return all the property and compensate for the losses. And we really need a new treaty regulating relations between Ukraine, the Russian Federation and the Crimea. Since the past (Kharkiv) Russian Federation tore apart unilaterally, demanding indemnity and reparations - which very much turned away even those supporters of a "peaceful transition" in Ukraine.
And nobody tries to do new things. RF muzzle brick. Krym does not solve anything at all (this is the Russian Federation for the Russian Federation) Ukraine is fighting in the east, not before Crimea. But actively speaks about it to the whole world.
In general, how to solve this problem - nito did not write on this forum. It’s easier for everyone to fight ...

[pint45]

Nobody wants to fight, but history needs to be studied more deeply, Madame, think more globally.

[old man54]

Quote: Cristall

no, legally the Crimea has no right to nationalize neither the equipment nor the property of the Armed Forces of Ukraine or the fleet of the Navy

but what do you say, one more Svidomo hermophrodite was searching for it here :)) And what, Crimea, as an autonomous republic, does not get its share of the total military property of Usraina, or what? Moreover, what was on its territory at the time of independence! Ukraine did not act in the 1991 of the year, huh?

Quote: Cristall

When the collapse of the USSR was Ukraine theoretically could nationalize the entire fleet of the USSR in Sevastopol, but didn’t

Here is a crest, so immediately lies and distortion! Apparently this is in the blood ...
1. in the 1991 year, Ukraine declared property rights and claims FOR THE WHOLE BLACK SEA Navy OF THE USSR.
2. in the 1992 / 93 years, Ukraine launched the process of changing flags on ships of the Black Sea Fleet and forcibly rejoining the personnel of ships and coastal units of the Black Sea Fleet to Ukraine, forcibly!
3. Spontaneous riots and rallies began on the ships and the shore, caused by the unwillingness of the personnel to serve Usraina, up to the opening of the guns on the ships and their self-isolation (lifting ramps from the shore). There were also threats of flooding of ships from crews.
4. Faced with such massive resistance, both Kiev and Moscow, both reluctantly (!!), began to agree on the division of the CCF, and as a result the division of the fleet occurred.
2 to you for the ignorance of history and the conscious wrant!

Quote: Cristall

Crimea does not have the right to nationalize Ukrainian military property once

This is under what such laws do not have the right? I already wrote above that Ukraine had the "right" to declare as its property the military property of the USSR located on its territory in 1991 (without asking the consent of the legal successor of the USSR - the Russian Federation), but the Crimea is not so ?! And they decided to give up the weapons, as far as I know, because in Kiev they very tearfully asked him to return, and Moscow hoped not to spoil the relationship with Kiev back then. but after all today and in the Donbass and relations with the Russian Federation you will not see any more of which you haven’t given it away yet, I’m sure! I really hope that C-300 did not have time to give.

[pint45]

A hedgehog is understandable; these old MIG29 A IN THEIR main engines, iron, chassis, well, and to them the pilot's seat, front-view locator, SAU-451, airborne armament and also in this pilot's seat you need to put a kid trained in our Air Force.

[old man54]

Quote: Docent

Quote: sergey261180

Quote: nikrandel

It was not necessary to give them away !!!

And those who gave either morons or traitors.

We are not at war with Ukraine, therefore the equipment is not a military trophy, therefore, it was transferred.

You write nonsense! In the 1991 year of the Russian Federation, as the legal successor of the USSR, also did not fight with Ukraine, but nevertheless Ukrainians still appropriated all the military equipment of the USSR, located on their territory for the declaration of independence! But what, now Crimea, when breaking away from Ragulina, according to the 1991 year taxonomy, does not have the right to military property located in the territory of Usrainy at the time of the announcement of the results of the referendum? strange you however ...

[smel]

Do not fly them long. Only as air targets

[kodxnumx]

Soon he will be shot down, so what's the difference! It would be better if they shot him down to the first salvo. And it’s better to immediately fly to the side of New Russia and become a militia.

[ADK57]

And civilians and militias die under air strikes?

[Mountain shooter]

Let them try to recover, and then fly around. After dill repair.
Not all of them have pilots - kamikaze. The plane is a difficult thing. They will not receive engines in any way, and many units are not being repaired, but are replaced by the development of a resource.

[Cherdak]

Quote: nikrandel

It was not necessary to give them away !!!

It was necessary to give it back, but in the "Ukrainian configuration" - for scrapping

[Bombardier]

I look at the photo - tears, even after so many years, come well.

[Snake831]

And don’t say. This is the TU-160, if I’m not mistaken. The color and pride of any Air Force. How could I saw such machines? How did my hand go up? I don’t understand.

[Iline]

Just the Americans sawed, but by the hands of Ukrainians. They even adjusted their equipment. Nothing like the current moment?

[PSih2097]

Quote: Iline

Just the Americans sawed, but by the hands of Ukrainians. They even adjusted their equipment. Nothing like the current moment?

reminds ...
It was...

It has become ...

[vladimirZ]

Bombardier
I look at the photo - tears, even after so many years, come well.

The result of the "activity" of Juda Gorbachev and US puppet Yeltsin.

[g1v2]

So they gave it up, only in scrap metal. Ukram will rise very expensively to restore them, all the more so they do not really need fighters.

[sergey261180]

Quote: g1v2

they don’t really need fighters

Shoot down the Boeing?

[region46]

if they would give me a grinder and an American B-2 and say they would drink, I would saw, even if the plane is beautiful. the Americans simply destroyed enemy equipment,

[xenod55]

So last week (August 6-7) one MiG-29 already "landed", either it fell, or the militias "dropped", the flyers were caught.

[aleks 62]

...... Most likely this is one of 4 flying .... The rest is trash ....

[Andrey Yuryevich]

tactical aviation brigades named after A.I. Pokryshkina Ukrainian Air Force they survived ... the Nazi air brigade named after Pokryshkin ...

[Cristall]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

tactical aviation brigade named after A.I. Pokryshkin Air Force of Ukraine, they survived ... Nazi Air Brigade named after Pokryshkin

not Nazi, but Ukrainian ...
or you don’t have the edge of the section - are all mixed up people horses?
Pokryshkin is an outstanding pilot-Soviet, Russian. Kozhedub-Soviet, Ukrainian. For me it’s all the same, that it’s Soviet Russian, that Soviet Soviet, that at least Soviet Georgian and others are all 15 republics.
Perpetuated the memory of the ace of the Second World War, on the contrary, is the right thing.

[gandalf]

Quote: nikrandel

It was not necessary to give them away !!!

It was necessary to give ...
The first is fighter jets; the effectiveness of ground targets is very low.
The second - to restore it requires resources and money (!), Which is so small, and, taking into account the specifics of the specifics, they will spend money on them immeasurably.
Third - less screaming about what we are not giving back. They left the healthiest cars and stopped.

[tilovaykrisa]

it was necessary to give them DNR and LC

[macarque]

Give ... but with bookmarks. Surely these hohlomutanty did not disassemble them to the cogs ...

[Mooh]

They took off a little, it was necessary to give an empty glider.

[Paradoxov]

There was no need to give anything back!

In total, 7 MiG-29, 2 MiG-29UB and 3 L-39M1 remained at the Belke airfield, and, as the Ukrainian newspaper Kryla Ukraini noted, these are the “most serviceable” vehicles of the brigade. It was also reported that the “Russian occupiers” removed many blocks and assemblies from the aircraft and left themselves a large amount of ground equipment.

Well, at least they didn’t miss it)

[Paradoxov]

Operational report of Igor Strelkov, information from the militia on August 11
Journalist: Genadiy Zharov - August 11, 2014

Operational report from the riflemen, you can say from the trench.

1) In the area of ​​the Red Beam there is a battle, the militias are trying to push the Ukrainian troops away from the city.

2) Punishers deliver an artillery strike on the city of Pervomaisk, great destruction, there are wounded and killed among local residents.

3) In the area of ​​Snezhnoye, they captured a tank and other shooting trophies, the tankers turned out to be very children, so tell me how you can send unshooted boys to the very heat? it's cannon fodder. We didn’t shoot animals, we let the guys go home, let them go to the mothers.

4) In the area of ​​Red Partisan, our DRG forces burned a column of Ukrainian security forces, the enemy suffered heavy losses, the battle is still ongoing.

5) In Donetsk, the situation has not changed, constant shelling by the enemy artillery.

6) Saur-Mogila was taken by the Ukrainian military, but they fail to reach the top of the hill; it is shot by our artillery.

7) In the village of Peski, there is a battle with the right sector, losses on both sides.

8) Gorlovka is surrounded, our guys are sitting on the defensive, ready to meet the enemy.

9) In the area of ​​Amvrosiyivka, a car with Ukrainian border guards blew up a mine, information about the victims is being specified.

10) LPR militias say that this morning they managed to knock out a Ukrainian fighter, the engine caught fire, but
the plane managed to leave.

Source: Igor Strelkov operative report, information from the militia on August 11 | Republic of Novorossia - news today http://novosti-novorossii.ru/operativnaya-svodka-igorya-strelkova-informaciya-ot

-opolcheniya-11-avgusta / # ixzz3A4Mi3VFO

Return the Saur-Tomb of the National Guard, all the same you do not live there!

[Jacques]

Generally it was not necessary to give, why create a headache for yourself?

[maxxdesign]

it was necessary to give, but before that, put a carcass of a pig in a cabin, close it and leave it for a couple of days in the sun ... then remove the carcasses and give the planes ... the stink will soak into the metal .... there will only be to burn them!

[maxxdesign]

but at least give a shit about an armchair on an extreme!)))

[Cristall]

Quote: maxxdesign

but at least give a shit about an armchair on an extreme!)))

how will you differ from some Ukrainians?
So that I’m not biting him! and that I can’t help but give up anything.

[dr.star75]

soon we will see them in the skies over Donetsk, and we’ll treat them fighters, maybe it’s time to shell our territory ourselves, otherwise the Ukrainians themselves do not have time?

[Jacques]

Humanitarian corridors for the military, this is overkill. Who unleashed the war and help? Somehow it is not clear.

[1Andrei]

Sorry, but the bookmarks have not been canceled yet. Let them fly ................. !!!

[kostya-petrov]

what equipment could there be removed and leave yourself ??? He simply was not there !!!
The same situation with the car !!! Kamaz, ZIL, Krazy and other cars pulled on a hitch to the platforms.
It is unfortunate that they brought to such a state, but after all, once after the collapse of the Soviet Union, they got the most powerful and efficient army after Russia !!!!

[MSA]

In general, there was nothing to give them anything, but they were still unhappy ...

[Giant thought]

All the same, it was a big mistake to give Ukraine combat aircraft, now the junta will even more begin to destroy the Russians in New Russia.

[Arberes]

Earlier it was reported that from April 10 to early June, the Russian side allowed Ukraine to take away 37 MiG-29 and MiG-29UB, as well as 1 L-39M1.
Helped by the simplicity of the soul! Should they have at least sawed off their wings or something?
All the same, the indecision of our power is sometimes amazing!
I expressed my opinion and I will not argue with anyone else.

[saag]

Quote: Arberes

Helped by the simplicity of the soul!

Yeah, these simpletons are these Shoigu with Putin :-)

[Arberes]

Yeah, these simpletons are these Shoigu with Putin :-)

Medvedev forgot to add.
There is a saying among the people. "There is enough simplicity for every wise man!"

[Workshop]

Yes, this is more likely not indecision, but the desire to show their peacefulness, which the powerful have never appreciated ...

[gfhjkm]

Earlier it was reported that from April 10 to early June, the Russian side allowed Ukraine to take away 37 MiG-29 and MiG-29UB, as well as 1 L-39M1.
Helped by the simplicity of the soul! Should they have at least sawed off their wings or something?
All the same, the indecision of our power is sometimes amazing!
I expressed my opinion and I will not argue with anyone else.

I don’t know what to call the transfer of this technique to the stupidity or stupidity of senior management, but I hope that at the lower level, our people have removed everything that is possible from them.
ps. The first moment of 29 with tail number 02 was already flying off. Shot down on August 7

[old man54]

Quote: gfhjkm

The first instant 29 with tail number 02 has already flown. Downed 7 August

what about you confuse, it seems, with numbers and photos! Spark shot down, i.e. Mig 29 They wrote that 2 catapulted, caught them. And in the photo the usual ...

[P-38]

Quote: Arberes

Helped by the simplicity of the soul! Should they have at least sawed off their wings or something?
All the same, the indecision of our power is sometimes amazing!

It is necessary to take into account the dynamics of events. At that time, there was no ATO at all, and it would never have occurred to anyone that the Ukrainians would begin to smash their cities with hail and heavy artillery. And the demonstrative return to Ukraine of military equipment, they say, we don’t need someone else’s, will result in such monstrous consequences.

[kostya-petrov]

tell me, what was there to shoot at all, of which there wasn’t even a trace !!!
There, many military equipment was mothballed (white wheels) either simply faulty, or even disassembled into spare parts (as in the photo).

[rotmistr60]

Yes, they hastened with the transfer of equipment. But at least I had the mind to stop this disgusting. Themselves gave weapons to the junta, which at that time had already fought with its people.
Initially, there was no clever head as always. Again we "hit the tails" to our own detriment and to the destruction of peaceful people.

[jagdpanzer]

bookmarks would at least do

[Captainden]

New goals for calculating the air defense of the militias, so as not to get bored.

[2224460]

It was also reported that the “Russian occupiers” removed many blocks and assemblies from the aircraft and left themselves a large amount of ground equipment.

Well, all that gained overwork, well, all removed.

[kostya-petrov]

so stupidly, rotting the great legacy of the Soviet Union !!!
It is unfortunate that no one bothered to give the mind to machines and military equipment in general!

[Vladimirets]

Quote: kostya-petrov

so stupidly, rotting the great legacy of the Soviet Union !!!

Have you been to our storage bases in the 90s?

[Nihonjin]

THIS Junk in the Urals is full of forests, do not know what to do with it

[sever.56]

Let's hope that the Lviv "craftsmen" repaired it so that they themselves will fall from the sky. And what does not fall will be knocked down by ours.

[g1v2]

Yeah, they restored one instant in a month and a half, how much will the rest be restored. As far as I remember, it was said that only 4 instants in the Crimea were combat-ready, so we left ourselves with all working or not very damaged equipment, and they were given rubbish to repair which takes months. In addition, given that Urks need attack aircraft and bombers, and not fighters, the twinks will be the last to be repaired. By the way, I read that although there were not many technicians from Eastern Europe brought, but spare parts are regularly brought in to restore the equipment, it’s another thing that the stitches have more equipment than the Poles can supply, and they didn’t have many models.

[enot73]

Ukraine has completed the restoration of the first MiG-29, taken from the Crimean airfield Belbek IMHO all this is a vain monkey work. As a strike aircraft, the MiG - 29 is not very impressive, for example, apart from the Su - 25, they will quickly lose their dill

[Bassoon]

After some time, these migari will fall due to the explosion of the air conditioner.

[kostya-petrov]

It is unfortunate that Ukraine so stupidly skipped everything, sold it and did not make anything new !!!

[enot73]

Quote: kostya-petrov

It is unfortunate that Ukraine so stupidly skipped everything, sold it and did not make anything new !!!

THE BETWEEN WELL !!!

[Roman 1977]

Wandering around the net, I found an amazing document about the sights of military equipment of the Slavau Ukrainian army, and not destroyed, but captured by militias:

So, military equipment captured only from ONE part A of the 1126-25-th brigade of the airborne troops of the Zbrodny forces, the so-called Dnepropetrovsk:
21 to 28 July:
T-64-12, apparently given;
BMP-14;
BTR-7;
BM-21 "Grad" -7;
120-mm SAO 2S9 "Nona-S" -2;
122nd BG 2S1 "Carnation" -3;
122-mm BG D-30-4;
82-mm mortar-1;
Memory-23-10;
motor vehicles-42 units
from 28 July to 5 August:
T-64-10;
BMP-12;
BTR-10;
BM-21 "Grad" -5;
120-mm SAO 2S9 "Nona-S" -2;
122nd BG 2S1 "Carnation" -1;
122-mm BG D-30-1;
82-mm mortar-9;
Memory-23-3;
motor vehicles-33 units
Thus, 25 Airborne Brigade ZSU captured from July 21 to August 5:
T-64-22 (2 tank companies);
BMP-26 (2 motorized rifle companies);
BTR-17 (almost 2 MCP);
BM-21 "Grad" -12 (2 batteries);
120-mm SAO 2S9 "Nona-S" -4 (fire platoon);
122th BG 2S1 "Carnation" -4 (firing platoon);
122-mm BG D-30-5 (almost battery);
82-mm mortar-10 (full battalion kit);
ZU-23-13 (2 batteries);
motor vehicles-75 units
Here you have Voentorg !!!

[g1v2]

I also came across something. The most interesting thing is that I once turned out to be right in the comments and the assaults on the Artyomovsk tank base were fake, under their cover, serviceable equipment was taken out of the base for money. Unfortunately, it turned out that few were serviceable - so out of 250 tanks {about which Gubarev spoke at one time} they managed to put into operation about 20-25, that is, less than 10 percent, infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers less than fifty of almost 500 pieces. Unfortunately, during the retreat, this scrap was not undermined and now it will be restored in Kharkov. By the way, in my opinion, the Kharkov plant should become a priority target for the militia drig, since up to 15 tanks and 30 armored vehicles are repaired and repaired on it daily, according to the info for July. Still repair and re-conservation is in Lviv, but there it seems like it is only about light armor, and the scale is more modest.

[g1v2]

This is for everyone in VSU, and not in the 25th brigade. At the brigade of the BMD and nona {only them} equipment, as well as the BTR-d, they began to put them on ordinary armored personnel carriers, due to the huge losses of the BMD, well, the D-30 was a plus on the little things. Neither tanks, nor hail, nor cloves were given to them. Infa from ukrovsky sources.

[VNP1958PVN]

And the point is, in New Russia fall

Cyber-Berkut hackers have published data on the losses of punishers. Ukrainian computer hackers have declassified information about the amount of equipment lost by the security forces and desertions in the army.
A group of Ukrainian hackers calling itself "Cyber-Berkut" posted on its website secret documents listing the names of soldiers who refused to fight, as well as indicating how much equipment the punishers lost. - "Defenders" of Ukraine are still completely demoralized, - said in the message of "Cyber-Berkut". - Failure to understand the purpose of their stay in the battle zone, constant fear for their lives and the threat of encirclement, from which the command will not help to get out, morally exhaust the soldiers. They continue to die, get injured and flee, leaving behind military equipment and weapons.

Next, computer crackers publish a document that security officials send to the prosecutor. It provides a list of the names of servicemen who did not want to take up arms again.
“Losses in military equipment continue to grow,” note the "cyber-berkut workers". - For the period from July 21 to August 2014, 22, the punishers "presented" the militias: tanks - 26 units; infantry fighting vehicles - 17 units; armored personnel carriers - 4 units; self-propelled artillery mounts "NONA" - 2 units; ACS 1S4 "Carnation" - 12 units; multiple launch rocket systems "Grad" - XNUMX units.
In addition, the Ukrainian military, according to hackers, lost five D-30 howitzers, ten 82 mm mortars, thirteen ZU-23-2 anti-aircraft guns and 75 automobile tractors.
On July 29, Cyber-Berkut members blocked the website of Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko. Thus, they opposed the authorities carrying out the genocide of their own people.

[mackonya]

Well, how will the MiG-29 help you, isn't it an attack aircraft or a bomber? And as far as I know, the militia does not have an Air Force, which means that the MiG-29 will be needed only for future provocations in the skies over the Crimea. They will fly, they say, this is from airspace, and if you knock it down, it will be a dream come true for "eternally galloping".

[Kasym]

Makonya, MiG-29 - FRONT fighter. He and NURS, and Bombs, and AP (gun) on the ground works. It was created to support ground troops. And cover the air above them - in the "dog dump" he has few equal.

[the eldest]

Let him wait for you)))))))))))))))

[podpolkovnik]

Quote: senior

Let him wait for you)))))))))))))))

Here is a better angle!

[GRDS]

If only the name in part was changed to the name of the Luftwaffe von Pidarsz .... dishonor Pokryshkin’s name with uki !!!

[Goldmitro]

<<< in the period from April 10 to early June, the Russian side allowed Ukraine to take 37 MiG-29 and MiG-29UB, as well as 1 L-39M1. In early June, the transfer of Crimean equipment was stopped. >>>
It is not clear why in the conditions of the unfolding ATO it was necessary to transfer this technique to the ukrokaratel? Again "politeses", again, as it were, to please the West in the hope that he will appreciate all this, but he put the hell on it and no matter how hard we try, he considers us an aggressor who seized Crimea! And now this technique is being restored and will begin to bomb and shoot militias and civilians in the Southeast! You need to think more about your people, and not about what they will think in the West!

[Vundervaflya]

And who then could believe that Ukrainians would bomb peaceful cities?

You will remember how it all began. First, just fights and riots on the Maidan, then shock - the first killed. And now no one is surprised by the shelling of Donetsk and Lugansk from "Smerch" and "Hurricane" ...

[Krsk]

Another scrap metal soon appear in the Donbass

[Andriuha077]

Who gave - to the camera, start the investigation. Participation in the genocide of civilians.

[RUSOIVAN]

Well, everything: you can capture: Workers now !!!

[ALEXX.]

Well, let all this rubbish replenish the alley of ukroletakov.

[ALEXX.]

COLLEAGUES YOU DID NOT UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY. I WOULD LIKE TO EXPLAIN. ALL THIS JUMP WILL FILL THE ALLEY OF UROVOLETAKES ONLY DOWN.

[korablik]

The Lviv Aviation Repair Plant brigades and consolidated technical groups from other parts of the Ukrainian armed forces are participating in the restoration of the flight readiness of the vehicles removed from the Crimea.

How much money and effort has been spent on restoring scrap metal for a one-way flight. Without normal flyers, this iron will not fly far. And here

composition of the 204th tactical aviation brigade named after A.I. Pokryshkin Ukrainian Air Force

please rename the Kugut catapultist air force to them. Lyashko Air Force Ruins

[miv110]

The same drew attention to the name of the military unit. Truly a paradox - the elite division of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is named after the Siberian A.I. Pokryshkin. Do not dare to dirty the heroic name! They are already forbidden in the history books to call the Patriotic War! Degradation on the march.

[Cristall]

Quote: miv110

Truly a paradox - the elite division of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is named after the Siberian A.I. Pokryshkin. Do not dare to dirty the heroic name! They are already forbidden in the history books to call the Patriotic War! Degradation on the march.

I do not understand - the heroes of the Second World War, if not perpetuated, is bad. To immortalize and name schools is bad. Decide already.
Pokryshkin deserved his exploits.
They can change Kozhedub on it. But did they immortalize the Russian - is that bad too?

[Russ69]

11.08.14. Bulletin from Vostok Press Center for August 10

"On August 10 in the Donbass, active hostilities took place in the cities of Donetsk, Ilovaisk, Krasny Luch and the Minersky District (DPR), as well as in Lugansk (LPR)," an employee of the Vostok information press center with the call sign "North ".
"A serious situation in Ilovaisk. Fierce battles are taking place within the city. No one counts the losses. Both sides are suffering serious losses. Yesterday, several buses with local residents left Ilovaisk. Evacuation was underway. Little remained of the city."
Also on August 10 there was shelling of Yasinovataya and Yenakievo. But the militia is holding out in all directions. Serious battles are taking place in the Red Ray. The city allegedly passed from hand to hand several times. There are ongoing battles, but there is no exact information. Also, serious battles are going on at Saur-Mogila. The Ukrainians hold the defense of the height below. They don't even take their dead and are not going to do it. As I understand it, this height is not particularly needed by the Armed Forces of Ukraine now, especially since it is well shot by the militia.
The Ukrainian Armed Forces continue shelling Donetsk, as a result of which the city infrastructure and residential areas suffer. They smashed the regional military registration and enlistment office, the building of Ukrtelecom, bombed the Tekstilshchik microdistrict (Kirovsky district), Petrovsky district, Kievsky prospect (Kievsky district). This is a common tactic of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. At the railway station, about 500 meters of power lines were damaged. There are also battles on the outskirts of Donetsk. Clashes are taking place in the area of ​​the village. Sands, in Yasinovka. The militiamen drove out Ukrainian troops in all directions. The battles there are sluggish.
Skirmishes and shelling of Lugansk are underway. Ukrainian troops were unable to resume control over the Izvarino checkpoint (LPR). There are no serious battles in Anthracite yet. I do not think that the militias will surrender something without serious fights, "- said" Sever ".

[Dragon-y]

"... It was also reported that the" Russian invaders "removed many blocks and assemblies from the aircraft and left a large amount of ground equipment for themselves ..." - if I had not seen the article that more than 200 armored vehicles were dismantled at the repair plant - maybe , and I would have believed .. The plant is in the Ukraine ... They stole / sold it on the DHM, now they are coming down on us.

[rosomaha]

part of the 204th tactical aviation brigade named after A.I. Pokryshkin Ukrainian Air Force
but what is there a RUSSIAN name .. the name of the hero who decided their "idol and liberator" Adik?

[Anchonsha]

They recklessly acted by giving military equipment to the junta. But who could even think that these monsters could turn the army, combat aircraft with missiles, heavy artillery weapons against their people. It is only the Nazis who can do this. It is clear that the evil geyropa opened the Pandora’s box supporting the fascist regime. For the United States, this is good, but for the geyropa, the death of a parish from a second fascism in Europe.

[sergant6776]

Quote: Arberes

Earlier it was reported that from April 10 to early June, the Russian side allowed Ukraine to take away 37 MiG-29 and MiG-29UB, as well as 1 L-39M1.
Helped by the simplicity of the soul! Should they have at least sawed off their wings or something?
All the same, the indecision of our power is sometimes amazing!
I expressed my opinion and I will not argue with anyone else.

This is not "indecision" - this is an awn, meanness, shortsightedness, betrayal of those in power. They don’t care ... the people that will now be under this iron, as if under an iron ... The command was given to "give" - ​​they were promoted that such humanists. Then bl .... Tank biathlon - to help us)))) We will cure all the dill that was not available. Then we bread from a bucket of theirs shit ... with joy and a smile. After all, WE ARE GOOD and POLITE. The Nazis laugh from our fucking ... zma. I am ashamed of the toothlessness and irresponsibility ...

[masterboy]

On the one hand, it's over they hurried to give back. On the other hand, it seems that it would not be more expensive to give it to yourself. Military equipment and the navy are not a peninsula. It is easier for Ukraine to file a lawsuit and win. Especially considering that all European courts are especially "sympathetic" towards Russia. Would be awarded more than this junk is worth. Let them rather fly and drive on their battered and second-hand than they have money for new ones ...

[kostya-petrov]

look at such a photo and my heart bleeds !!!
How could it be so criminal, cynical and cold-blooded about military equipment ???

[Cristall]

Quote: kostya-petrov

look at such a photo and my heart bleeds !!!
How could it be so criminal, cynical and cold-blooded about military equipment

that's what they do in Ukraine with them
http://economics.unian.net/industry/467408-kakie-vertoletyi-otdadut-na-sborku-v-

ukrainu-vostrebovannyie-mi-8-ili-ustarevshie-mi-2.html
a photo
http://sfw.so/1149030848-remotorizaciya-vertoletov-na-motor-sich.html

[Matrosov]

Quote: Paradoxov

7) In the village of Peski, there is a battle with the right sector, losses on both sides. 8) Gorlovka is surrounded, our

This is perhaps more important news than +1 board for the Ukrainian Air Force. It will most likely not even be used in combat, but will be flown around by crews. The militia needs to hold out until November, then there is a chance that due to the difficult economic situation and the lack of gas supplies, Ukraine will "collapse". However, the Junta will still pay off the debt for gas (they will be allocated money from the IMF for this), agree to the price of 360-390 dollars and begin to receive gas. And then it will be the final. New Russia will not survive the winter.

[KBR109]

Do not forget that the obligatory condition for starting just negotiations is to pay 5,3 billion debt. Nobody will give so much to Ukraine. Definitely ... In the best case, after the end of the database they will be given 1,4 billion euros. And that’s all ...

[uge.garik]

SO DIVERSIONS ON THE GAS PIPELINE ARE NOT CANCELED ..!

[Alekseir162]

“Russian occupiers” removed many blocks and assemblies from the aircraft and left themselves a large amount of ground equipment.

Here with .. and dill, plundered themselves, and dumped on Russia. They lie and do not blush.

[RUSLAN]

And I’m wondering where the Little Russians get fuel? After all, the military equipment taken from the nats “eats” not weakly ... The punishers probably first of all bombed the fuel and lubricants storage facilities.

[novel68rus]

but mine is not a technique, but solid scrap ... why do we need it if we get rid of ours slowly .. we need new planes and not the ones that fall apart in the air ..

[Megavolt]

Quote: sergey261180

Quote: nikrandel

It was not necessary to give them away !!!

And those who gave either morons or traitors.

And if more specifically ..?

[sergey261180]

Quote: Megavolt

And if more specifically ..?

There is nowhere more specific:

http://www.vedomosti.ru/politics/news/24624721/putin-prikazal-otdat-ukraine-voen
nuyu-tehniku-chastej


Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered the Minister of Defense Sergey Shoigu to proceed with the transfer to Ukraine of weapons and military equipment deployed in Crimea and remaining in military units that did not go over to the side of the Russian army.
At a meeting with senior officers on the occasion of their appointment to new posts and the assignment of regular military ranks, the head of the Ministry of Defense addressed the president. He said that "the organized withdrawal of units of the Ukrainian army, expressed a desire to continue serving in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, has been completed." “The change of state symbols on all ships and in all units that have switched to the side of the Russian army has been completed. There are no acts of desecration, disrespectful attitude to the state symbols of Ukraine, ”the minister said.
He turned to the supreme commander: “I ask your permission to proceed with the transfer of arms and military equipment to Ukraine.” To the president’s question, he clarified that it was “about both the ship’s composition and the aviation.” “I agree, do it,” Putin ordered.
Putin emphasized: “We respect the choice of those Ukrainian military personnel and employees of other law enforcement agencies who are returning to Ukraine.” “The attitude towards them, to their families should be extremely correct, as required by the traditions of military honor,” said the Supreme Commander.

[netwalker]

Bad news! MIG-29 is a serious machine - this is not "drying" for you With such machines already "Igla" you will not fight.
On the other hand - which of the technicians there, in Ukraine could remain - armless graduates of local vocational schools? Normal have long gone to the Russian Federation or the EU, who in what sexual orientation is freer - about the fact that the local PTUs were starting up with these "moments" - maybe it won't be able to fly. I hope it still can't ..!

[AQUARIUS 65]

netwalker
Bad news! MIG-29 is a serious machine - this is not "drying" for you ... You cannot fight "Igla" with such machines.

You offend the militias, dear. Good news! Serious people in the militia can shoot down "serious cars" as well, which is confirmed in the quote below.

The situation with military aircraft is even worse in Kiev, another confirmation of which was the destruction by the militia of the MiG-29 fighter in the “twin” version. http://warfiles.ru/show-65873-ukrainskaya-armiya-gotovit-sobstvennyy-razgrom.htm
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[KBR109]

To counter the earth 29, the machine is much weaker. Worse armed and worse protected.

[sm00vik]

I do not believe that ours could so easily give up so many planes in combat-ready condition. This situation could be calculated with the South-East of Ukraine by our military. And most likely they gave away trash from which it would be possible to collect a couple of other ships. As someone above said correctly - you try to fly around them! And you have to be a suicide to fly at such a bunch.

[Luga]

"204th AI Pokryshkin Tactical Aviation Brigade of the Ukrainian Air Force".

What are they calling their brigades in the name of a quilted jacket? Or Alexander Ivanovich is considered to be Svidomo? Yes, he will curse from the grave those who send the planes of this brigade to shoot at Donetsk, and the aircraft themselves burrow into the ground. Out of shame. Together with the pilots.

[Roman 1977]

MiG-29s, of course, can work against ground targets with the 30 mm GSh-30-1 aircraft cannon, NUR and aviation brmbs. Our MiG-29SMT, the very ones that Algeria rejected, can also strike with guided weapons, thanks to the modernized radar sighting system with N019MP radar, in which the terrain mapping mode is implemented, an optical-electronic sighting system (KOLS and helmet-mounted target designation system), a navigation complex, a new noise-immune communication and guidance complex (two R-833 radio stations, telecode exchange channels and a command radio link), a REP complex, a Karat-B control and registration complex with a small-sized video recording system, an aircraft resource accounting system and diagnostics of its state "Regatta" , weapons control system and other equipment.

The MiG-1991 modifications 29 and 9.12 remaining in Ukraine in the 9.13 were intended only for air combat, however, such a modification of the MiG-29 does not prevent Syrian pilots from striking MiG-29 with basmachi positions.


Considering the extremely low qualifications of Ukrainian pilots and the traditionally low quality of aircraft repair at Ukrainian repair enterprises, as well as the rather strong air defense of the militia, in which, as I hope, the OSA-AKM air defense system has appeared, attempts to strike Ukropsky MiG-29s on ground targets will be accompanied large losses, both in combat and from accidents, which we observed on August 7.

[cat hippopotamus]

And now give the Oplchents in the same number of MANPADS to turn all this into a pile of scrap metal.

[bmv04636]

Most likely they didn’t repair anything, they just repainted it, and MiGs were delivered from eastern Europe.

[Aslan]

Okay, they were transmitting all kinds of junk, why should the planes be completely combat-ready?

[vvsz031249]

And this team still bears the name of the famous fighter pilot A.I. Pokryshkin, Three times a hero of the Soviet Union ... They are not worthy to be called falcons - ravens ...

[KBR109]

Yes ! Both the eye and the tongue scratch such a name. Better by number ... And the former KVOKU: Academy of National Defense named after Chernyakhovsky. But when the psheks removed his monument, Voronezh accepted it. To know the memory of Bandera in Bandera turned out to be more demanded than the memory of the great military leader and fellow countryman. Skins ... one word ...

[Loner_53]

In winter, those who do not fall on the woods of the junta on Donbass will change. It only seems that they will be picked up before the winter

[Homo sapiens]

Не зависимо ни от каких причин передача любой военной техники стороне, у которой только что оккупировали (по их терминологии) огромный кусок территории, и которая, по сути, стала противником - ОШИБКА!!! И это было ясно сразу! И очень жаль, что до сих пор ответственные за такое решение не признали этой ошибки. Значит подобные не исключены и будущем. Что и доказывает настоящее...
А то, что, якобы, это просто металлолом, ну так и отправить на металлолом. А деньги можно было бы передать банк для погашения задолженности тем крымчанам, которых на бабки кинуло государство Украина...

[boozer]

Военную технику отдаем, самолеты вот будут бомбить мирные города, укрофашей вместо интернирования, по всем международным правилам кстати, зачем то помыли в душе, накормили, дали выспаться и вернули обратно в строй. Что-то уж больно замудреная и тонкая игра. Или я что-то не допонимаю? Поделитесь тогда мыслями...

[Homo sapiens]

Вот и Вам и мне примерно за одни и те же размышления и мысли кто то по подлому, втихаря, анонимно влепил минус. Без объяснений...

Господа администраторы, а нельзя сделать так, что бы человек не мог своим минусом снижать рейтинг, если не обоснует, что именно ему не понравилось в посте, с чем он не согласен. "Баба Яга против" - это не аргумент в дискуссии!!!

[Cristall]

Quote: Homo sapiens

Вот и Вам и мне примерно за одни и те же размышления и мысли кто то по подлому, втихаря, анонимно влепил минус. Без объяснений...
Господа администраторы, а нельзя сделать так, что бы человек не мог своим минусом снижать рейтинг, если не обоснует, что именно ему не понравилось в посте, с чем он не согласен. "Баба Яга против" - это не аргумент в дискуссии!!!

так ведь с начала года тут наплыв ура патриотов которые сформировали генеральную линию ВО--если чуть отклоняешься тут же минусуют безжалостно..Объяснения? Кофточка не понравилась)
Ой а за флаг как тут любят минусовать впрочем мне плевать. Сам ни разу не пользовался кнопкой - или +

[Mercenary]

Мало сняли.Нужно было снять всё вплоть до двигателей. Отдавать пустые фюзеляжи без фонарей.

[boozer]

Лучше уж тогда фонари с шасси и штурвалами, без фюзеляжа!

[soratnik]

Ух ты! Кто бы мог подумать?! Вспоминаю начало торжественной передачи военной техники Украине из Крыма!
Шойгу обращается к Путину - товарищ верховный главнокомандующий разрешите начать передачу военной техники принадлежащей Украинской армии из Крыма!
Путин - передачу военной техники начать!
ВВП любит что-нибудь торжественно начать.
Видимо отстранение от должности предыдущего министра обороны по прозвищу "табуретка" не многое изменило! Кремлёвские продолжают ЛОЖАТЬ! Ещё передали бы Украине пару подводных лодок и межконтинентальных баллистических ракет. Что бы хохлы могли до Москвы дострелить. Только полные иди..ты могут вооружать потенциального врага!

[abc_alex]

Ну и пусть играют и радуются. МиГ-29 всё-таки не бомбардировщик и даже не штурмовик. По земле работать его учили, но по слухам для удачного бомбометания там нужен пилот, мягко говоря, выше среднего уровня. Так что толку от истребителей Киеву будет чуть (разве что разведка) а вот денег в ремонт вгрохают изрядно.

[tnk1969]

Как много было сделано ошибок. Некоторые подобны преступлениям.
Сначало поддерживали президента-промокашку Януковича, выдали ему такие бабки, потом снизили цену на рад... Думали что украинцы это оценят. Потом молчали с Майданом. А надо было действовать. Хорошо хоть с Крымом не протянули.
А потом, обнадежив Юго-Восток, бросили их в пасть фашистам. Хотя на весь мир было сказано что "Своих не бросаем". Но самой большой ошибкой было то что Власть в лице ВВП получив после присоединения Крыма такой вотум доверия от Россиян так бездарно им распорядилось. А еще к этому нельзя не добавить и участие Газпрома в финансировании боевых действий ВС Украины против Новороссии. Ведь поставки газа оказали именно тот эффект который и добивался ЕС и США. Они ведь хотели чтобы Россия профинансировала сама за то чтобы сделать из России врага №1 для украинцев. И Газпром это все профинансировал.
А передача металлолома из Крыма- маленькая ошибка по сравнению со всеми вашеперечисленными. Надо всем нам понять что именно бездействие и безволие Власти России уничтожает народ Новороссии.

[Cristall]

Quote: tnk1969

Думали что украинцы это оценят. Потом молчали с Майданом. А надо было действовать

я лично радовался Московским соглашением и отказом от ассоциации..
да и не один я..Помимо газа и кредита там речь шла о заказах на заводы, чем обрадовались многие украинцы на ЮВ.
А вот отказ от борьбы с Майданом-это правда...не нужно было обьявлять это внутренним делом Украины когда послы США и ЕС ясно говорили с трибун на Майдан ради чего это все делается...Тогда как раз половина Украина была против и не поддерживала майдан. А в декабре майдан вообще затух! Нужно было его и удушить...На януса надежды никакой не было никогда...была как раз надежда что дядя ВОва ему все подскажет и покажет..А то Янус сам даже сказать ничерта не может..даже Рятуйте не смог сказать..

[tnk1969]

Как много было сделано ошибок. Некоторые подобны преступлениям.
Сначало поддерживали президента-промокашку Януковича, выдали ему такие бабки, потом снизили цену на рад... Думали что украинцы это оценят. Потом молчали с Майданом. А надо было действовать. Хорошо хоть с Крымом не протянули.
А потом, обнадежив Юго-Восток, бросили их в пасть фашистам. Хотя на весь мир было сказано что "Своих не бросаем". Но самой большой ошибкой было то что Власть в лице ВВП получив после присоединения Крыма такой вотум доверия от Россиян так бездарно им распорядилось. А еще к этому нельзя не добавить и участие Газпрома в финансировании боевых действий ВС Украины против Новороссии. Ведь поставки газа оказали именно тот эффект который и добивался ЕС и США. Они ведь хотели чтобы Россия профинансировала сама за то чтобы сделать из России врага №1 для украинцев. И Газпром это все профинансировал.
А передача металлолома из Крыма- маленькая ошибка по сравнению со всеми вашеперечисленными. Надо всем нам понять что именно бездействие и безволие Власти России уничтожает народ Новороссии.

[Nihonjin]

Не все так просто, мы многого не знаем и лучше не знать

[Sh.N.V.]

Разобрали 10 и восстановили 1

[VladimS]

А потом, обнадежив Юго-Восток, бросили их в пасть фашистам. Хотя на весь мир было сказано что "Своих не бросаем".

Тут Вы мягко говоря неправы!!
Надо ли напоминать, что жители Донбаса и Луганска граждане другой страны?
Своих и не бросили.. в Крыму! Где действительно русских подавляющее большинство.
Провели референдум и результат его. От то-го и молниеносно и виртуозно проведеная операция...
Нам тут конечно лучше видно, с диванов. Но я полагаю, в руководстве у нас..., то ж не пальцем деланые...

передача металлолома из Крыма- маленькая ошибка по сравнению со всеми вашеперечисленными. Надо всем нам понять что именно бездействие и безволие Власти России уничтожает народ Новороссии.

Подобные высказывания несведущих людей наносят урон стране нашей несоизмеримо больше, чем некоторые из санкций Запада.

[GHOST29RUS]

Зачем укропам самолёты? Они же летать на них не умеют

[code54]

Ну, мне кажется это уже не Летальное оружие... А ремонтировали их также как Миги которые у них отказались брать после ремонта???

[vuun1]

I recently came across a service for checking fines online, and there you can challenge fines, I have argued so somewhat and am very happy about it, maybe you are lucky. Here is the service (use it for health) - http://wmsus.2sms.ru