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US media: the activity of the Russian Air Force leads to the heightening of international tension

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For the second time in the last two months, the atomic bombers of the Russian Air Force, accompanied by fighter aircraft, found themselves in close proximity to the airspace of the United States and Canada, which forced the Americans to lift interceptors into the air, reports Channel RT on the USA Today newspaper.



A spokesperson for the US Air Force told reporters that over the past 10 days, the Russians have flown 16 flights to areas of northern Canada and Alaska, calling them "regular training flights." American pilots during one of the interceptions were noticed by Russian Tu-95 bombers, a spy plane and an anti-submarine Tu-142.

"Over the last week, NORAD (North American Aerospace Defense Command) visually identified a Russian aircraft in action inside and around the US air defense identification zones"
A spokesman for the command, Beth Smith, said. He described these maneuvers as “a surge of activity”.

In connection with this, the Russian military declare that all flights are planned in advance and take place in strict accordance with international rules, while “the borders of other states do not overlap”.

Recently ITAR-TASS reported the first overflight of the Northern Sea Route by a squadron of Su-34 fighter-bombers. The Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Air Force, Viktor Bondarev, qualified this passage as a test of action in the Arctic.

Russian planes were spotted by the US military in the sky over California in May of this year, their appearance was immediately connected with the Ukrainian events. Air Force Commander in the Asia-Pacific Region Herbert Carlile is confident that "Russia's actions in Ukraine and the Crimea have a direct impact on the Asia-Pacific region."

Commenting on the May appearance of Russian aircraft, the general said:
“They came up with the help of the far aviation to the shores of California, circled Guam. F-15 climbed to intercept the "bear" (Tu-95), which flew to Guam. "


After the aggravation of the crisis in Ukraine, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu announced an unprecedented increase in the activity of the US and NATO armies near the Russian borders. He drew attention to the increase in the number of aircraft and American troops in Poland and the Baltic States, as well as an increase in the number of NATO warships in the Black Sea.

“RT” recalls the April 23 incident on the eastern coast of the Russian Federation. On this day, the Russian fighter aircraft intercepted the American strategic reconnaissance aircraft RC-135U: Su-27 flew literally in front of the nose of the American aircraft, demonstrating to the pilot the lower part of his fuselage with military missiles. The maneuver was carried out so close to the spy (about 30 m) that it fell into the turbulence zone formed by the jet engine of a fighter jet.

“These actions were so dangerous that the crew decided to stop fulfilling the mission. The official with whom I spoke declared that such a close flight had put the lives of American pilots at risk. ”, - Jim Shutto, CNN's chief correspondent for national security issues, wrote in his commentary on the event.
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  1. MolGro
    MolGro 9 August 2014 13: 29
    +43

    The main thing is to believe in yourself and be the son of your fatherland and not a foreign pack of us is an obstacle!
    1. Giant thought
      Giant thought 9 August 2014 13: 44
      +29
      Let the mattresses know that we still have gunpowder in the powder flasks, and we keep it dry.
      1. zanoza
        zanoza 9 August 2014 13: 53
        +47
        The "striped" ones missed the Russian Air Force near their borders, which is why the new generation of American warriors are "frightened" out of habit.
        Get used to it ...
        1. supertiger21
          supertiger21 9 August 2014 14: 05
          +81
          If the Americans are worried and worried about our actions, then we are doing everything right! am
          1. Iline
            Iline 9 August 2014 14: 30
            +17
            I would not be worried when, without a single shot, Russia restored historical justice in the Crimea. Alaska seems to have to be given back, but really like it. Amer there is not enough cookies.
            1. Ezhaak
              Ezhaak 9 August 2014 15: 02
              +9
              Quote: Iline
              when, without a single shot, Russia restored historical justice

              Be fair. There were shots! To the air!
              1. avg
                avg 9 August 2014 16: 11
                +10
                Russian aircraft were spotted by the US military in the sky over California back in May of this year.
                .
                Yes Yes! And didn’t they bomb the packs from side rations?
                It looks like this CNN correspondent on national security issues has slightly twisted. belay It remains to shout Russian id ut and ... laughing
              2. Oleg sibiryak
                Oleg sibiryak 11 August 2014 12: 05
                +1
                I mean - salute?
              3. hly
                hly 11 August 2014 16: 42
                +1
                there were killed ... 2
                1. NEXT
                  NEXT 11 August 2014 21: 47
                  0
                  There were people who needed to change diapers. They cannot be called military.
            2. Duke
              Duke 9 August 2014 16: 43
              +16
              Tu-95 (product “B”, according to NATO codification: Bear - “Bear”) - Soviet / Russian strategic turboprop bomber-bomber
              Specifications:
              Wingspan - 50,04 m;
              Length - 46,17 m;
              Height - 12,5 m;
              Wing Area - 283,7 m2;
              Empty weight - 90000 kg;
              Maximum take-off weight - 172000 kg;
              Maximum speed - 920 km / h;
              Flight range - 15400 km;
              Practical ceiling - 12000 m;
              Crew - 8 people.
              The bomb load of Tu-95 aircraft can reach 12000 kg. In the fuselage bomb bay can be placed free-falling (including nuclear) aerial bombs with caliber up to 9000 kg.
              Tu-95 served as the basis for many modifications, both experienced and mass-produced. The backbone of Russia's strategic aviation is the Tu-95MS, which is the carrier of the X-55 cruise missiles. In the modification of the Tu-96MS6, six such missiles are located in the bomb compartment on the multi-position drum launcher. The Tu-95MS16 modification, in addition to the fuselage launcher, provides for the suspension of ten more X-55 missiles on four underwing holders.
              The defensive armament of Tu-95 aircraft consists of 23-mm aircraft guns. On various modifications of the aircraft, their number varies from six AM-23 guns to two GS-23 guns.
              1. Iline
                Iline 9 August 2014 17: 38
                +2
                Not all the numbers you provide are the same for all modifications of the Tu-95. Rather, they approach the Tu-95V (VM) of the late fifties. But to be honest, the numbers are not much different. On the Tu-95MS 7 crew members.
              2. Was mammoth
                Was mammoth 9 August 2014 17: 43
                +15
                Quote: Duke
                Tu-95 (product "B", according to the codification of NATO: Bear - "Bear")

                When this car takes off, we scream throughout the car alarm area wink
                1. sgazeev
                  sgazeev 9 August 2014 18: 41
                  +11
                  Quote: Was Mammoth
                  Quote: Duke
                  Tu-95 (product "B", according to the codification of NATO: Bear - "Bear")

                  When this car takes off, we scream throughout the car alarm area wink

                  We need to ask amers, and they have uncontrollable diarrhea when flying off the coast of California. lol
                  1. Dad
                    Dad 10 August 2014 02: 09
                    +10
                    Instead of an alarm, they start yelling.
                2. demon1978
                  demon1978 9 August 2014 19: 17
                  +8
                  Was Mammoth RU Today, 17:43 ↑ New
                  Quote: Duke
                  Tu-95 (product "B", according to the codification of NATO: Bear - "Bear")
                  When this car takes off, we scream throughout the car alarm area

                  Well, you really have to endure something !!! soldier IT'S Worth it !!! You only have the signaling yelling, and THERE half of the Mattress will BLOW from forgotten sensations will be 100 %% !!! drinks
                  1. shinobi
                    shinobi 10 August 2014 04: 33
                    0
                    In their warriors, their hiccups with diarrhea seem to open.
                3. APASUS
                  APASUS 9 August 2014 20: 09
                  +6
                  Quote: Was Mammoth
                  Quote: Duke
                  Tu-95 (product "B", according to the codification of NATO: Bear - "Bear")

                  When this car takes off, we scream throughout the car alarm area wink

                  This is perhaps the only aircraft in the world whose roar of engines is heard by submarine crews. In fact, this does not prevent him from carrying cruise missiles, since he usually does not enter the air defense zone
                  1. goose
                    goose 12 August 2014 11: 48
                    0
                    And what's so loud? Nearby stood the Tu-95 20 km, I had never heard, but the MiG-31 and MiG-25 were very audible.
                    1. Kassandra
                      Kassandra 12 August 2014 16: 02
                      0
                      maybe flew the other way? if it passes over you even by 1,5 km - you will never forget that. I then did not want to go to the shooting range for several months ...
              3. pvv113
                pvv113 9 August 2014 17: 54
                +4
                Currently, the main strategist is the Tu-95MS - a newer version with improved features.
                EQUIPMENT. The Tu-95MS aircraft is equipped with a navigation and sighting system with Obzor radar.

                An airborne defense complex (BKO) is installed on the missile bomber, which includes reconnaissance equipment, as well as active and passive jamming systems

                WEAPONS. The Tu-95MS is equipped with a multi-position drum launcher designed for six small-sized X-55 long-range subsonic cruise missiles (range 2500 km). Under the wing on two nodes of the external suspension of the Tu-95MS-6 aircraft, four more missiles of this type are allowed. On a Tu-95MS-16 aircraft, under the wing at four nodes, ten X-55s can be suspended (currently, in accordance with the Russian-American agreement, all Tu-95MS aircraft carry rocket weapons only on internal suspension).

                It is possible to equip the aircraft with conventional free-falling bombs.

                Defensive armament of a bomber consists of two guns GSh-23 or GSh-23L (23 mm).

                DIMENSIONS Wingspan 50,05 m; the length of the aircraft is 47,09 m (with a fuel receiver rod - 49,13 m); aircraft height 13,20 m; wing area 295,00 m2.

                MASS, kg: maximum take-off 185.000; maximum flight during refueling in the air 187.700; 94.400 aircraft voids; fuel 87.000, maximum landing 135.000; target target ›narrow: normal 9000, maximum 20.000.

                FLIGHT CHARACTERISTICS Maximum speed (without external suspensions); 650 km / h near the ground, at an altitude of 7600 m - 825 km / h, at an altitude of 11,600 m - 830 km / h; cruising speed of 710 km / h; practical ceiling; normal 12,000 m, with a maximum combat load of 9100 m; practical range: with a normal combat load of 10.500 km, with a maximum combat load of 6500 km.

                http://www.redov.ru/transport_i_aviacija/aviacija_i_kosmonavtika_1999_08/p5.php
                1. Iline
                  Iline 10 August 2014 10: 23
                  +6
                  Quote: pvv113
                  It is possible to equip the aircraft with conventional free-falling bombs.

                  Not allowed, this is a pure missile carrier, unlike the Tu-160. Believe me, he served them for 23 years.
                  Everything else is true. Only flight range is indicated for standard missiles. There are more serious with additional fuel tanks. In addition to the X-55 of various modifications, the aircraft also carries the X-555 with OBCH. Recently adopted the X-101 with an amazing range. So the Tu-95MS will for a long time be the main workhorse of strategic aviation.
              4. zeleznijdorojnik
                zeleznijdorojnik 9 August 2014 20: 43
                +12
                Once again, I need to say thank you to Comrade Stalin, from the right to fly an airplane into his air, which the enemy fears 62 years after his first flight ...
                1. Bayonet
                  Bayonet 9 August 2014 21: 25
                  +6
                  Quote: zeleznijdorojnik
                  Once again, I need to say thank you to Comrade Stalin,

                  Thanks to the best friend of Soviet aircraft designers!
              5. PEGASUS
                PEGASUS 12 August 2014 08: 37
                0
                BEAUTY !!!
            3. zennon
              zennon 9 August 2014 17: 52
              +3
              Quote: Iline
              Alaska seems to have to be given back, but really like it.

              It is not necessary. They bought it absolutely legally for $ 7 - a lot of money at that time. We bought 200 steam locomotives in Austria with this money and built the Kursk Railway. This is an extremely important and necessary thing. As for the talk about "the untold treasures of Alaska "-it's true,BUT-we still cannot master the Koryakskoe highlands with Kolyma! All the gold mined in Kolyma for ALL years can be compared with a thimble, with respect to the champagne bucket what remains ...
              1. serezhasoldatow
                serezhasoldatow 9 August 2014 19: 28
                +2
                They still have not given us a cent for Alaska.
                1. zennon
                  zennon 9 August 2014 20: 16
                  -1
                  Quote: serezhasoldatow
                  They still have not given us a cent for Alaska.

                  Is this a statement from House No. 6?
                  1. Muadipus
                    Muadipus 12 August 2014 12: 32
                    0
                    There was an article that supposedly the Americans paid with bonds, but should have been in cash. Like the terms of the contract are not fulfilled. etc. Although there are many versions ... At the School (Soviet), we were taught that Alaska was leased and not sold.
                    1. Kassandra
                      Kassandra 12 August 2014 15: 58
                      0
                      and it was ... it was only in the late perestroika that they removed about 99 years
              2. avia1991
                avia1991 9 August 2014 22: 08
                +6
                Quote: zennon
                They bought it absolutely legally for $ 7 - a lot of money

                Large - to put it mildly. BUT! They didn’t give all of them, some of them were really “dirty” .. And the interest, taking into account inflation, is awesome!
              3. Gorbtk
                Gorbtk 9 August 2014 22: 22
                +2
                As an option - it’s possible. But in fact it was an outright scam. The contract was at 7 million. amer. rubles but in GOLD, received a piece of paper for this amount, as it was further history is silent (not Russian wrote). In the course of the paper rolls in one of the state archives. It was possible to build a train for their money. They were always like dirt ....

                PS This is my vision, please do not be offended. But I think that this is somehow more true ...
                1. zennon
                  zennon 9 August 2014 22: 59
                  +1
                  Quote: Gorbtk
                  It was possible to build a train for their money. They were always like dirt ....
                  PS This is my vision, please do not be offended. But I think that this is somehow more true ...

                  I was always interested in Russian history. Many times I heard this stupid story - "Ekaterina (?) For a hundred years ...". I got used to doing everything carefully. And once I figured out this issue for myself. Understood. It’s surprising that adults like people cannot yourself to do this. Everything is in the Internet !!! Links a million! Well, at least:
                  http://www.factruz.ru/history_mistery/alaska.htm
                  With regards to:
                  It was possible to build a train for their money. They were always like dirt ....

                  Here is an excerpt from the same site:
                  In 1861, serfdom was finally abolished in the empire. Hundreds of thousands of landowners were left without peasants. That is, a certain category of people has lost a stable source of income. In this regard, the state paid compensation to the nobles. She at least somehow covered material losses. For the treasury, these expenses amounted to tens of millions of full-fledged royal rubles. Then the Crimean War broke out. Money from the treasury flowed again.

                  It's obvious! People, try to read, to think. Well, at least try! I believe you will succeed!
                  The archives of the United States still hold a check for $ 7,2 million with a receipt by Edward Stekl on August 1, 1867 on receipt of money. America paid treasury bills for Alaska (later this circumstance gave rise to the myth that “the money was not the same” - such as treasury bills quoted below gold dollars or rubles).

                  Just type in the search box: "How Alaska was sold to America."
              4. Dad
                Dad 10 August 2014 02: 17
                -1
                So sold or leased?
          2. Caa
            Caa 9 August 2014 14: 33
            +29
            As they themselves, for example, can’t get out of the Black Sea, reconnaissance planes are so overstrained that they go into neighboring countries with fear, they settled in the dill, the fifth column was grown right in our house, the Nazis in the south, and Russophobes in the west. You can go on forever!

            And this is what we are building up the atmosphere !!! They got used to it, t.a.r.r.i, that everyone goes to them like a slaughter with a drooping head and open mouth, and here ON THOSE, BOURGE - TAKE OUT! Get used to it! It's only the beginning!

            I apologize for the lack of 'yo' - the enemy tablet does not allow .. Maybe Iota will release it? .. I'll buy it right away, and this one with a hammer, like that guy on YouTube.
          3. from punk
            from punk 9 August 2014 15: 54
            +17
            Quote: supertiger21
            If the Americans are worried and worried about our actions, then we are doing everything right!
            Psaki said. Any exercise that Russia conducts is a provocation)))
            1. demon1978
              demon1978 9 August 2014 16: 29
              +8
              punk (1) RU Today, 15:54 ↑ New
              Quote: supertiger21
              If the Americans are worried and worried about our actions, then we are doing everything right! Psaki said. Any exercise that Russia conducts is a provocation)))

              Well, yes, and any WAR that the MATTRESSES are "peaceful, planned teachings"
              -This is also PSAKI, you can see her Granny feeds her DONUTS with "FUN" filling !!! ???
              1. MAXIMUS
                MAXIMUS 10 August 2014 12: 41
                0
                Quote: demon1978
                punk (1) RU Today, 15:54 ↑ New
                Quote: supertiger21
                If the Americans are worried and worried about our actions, then we are doing everything right! Psaki said. Any exercise that Russia conducts is a provocation)))

                Well, yes, and any WAR that the MATTRESSES are "peaceful, planned teachings"
                -This is also PSAKI, you can see her Granny feeds her DONUTS with "FUN" filling !!! ???


                Why was the letter removed? OBAPSAKI, just ... succeed.
          4. aksakal
            aksakal 9 August 2014 16: 16
            +14
            Quote: supertiger21
            If the Americans are worried and worried about our actions, then we are doing everything right! am
            - Duc Putin does not represent a war between fraternal peoples, makes it clear that there will not be one, and instead there will be a war between completely non-fraternal peoples. And it seems to me that if these flights on the nerves of Amers are not just show-offs, but real warnings, then this is a better step - it’s better to hit the root right away. Because if you strangle the fraternal people, the Americans will stir up in another fraternal state, in the same Belarus, and so on to infinity. It is easier to deal with the root cause, even if it is armed with nuclear weapons. So what? And let them try to apply.
            Well, let's hypothetically imagine the situation - the Americans turned on fully, the Ukrainian troops invaded the Crimea, they were driven away, they tried without big casualties, but then a regular airstrike followed, say, in Alaska. The troops are in full combat readiness, a couple more skirmishes in the air ... Deja Vu. The Caribbean Crisis - 2. The world closed its eyes in fear. And then - an ultimatum from Russia to be handed back both in Ukraine and in missile defense. Time is running out. I am sure that they will hand over back, they will not go anywhere. They sat down at the negotiating table, divided the spheres of influence and dispersed, and began to live on that. Well, there America will fall apart, it’s not going anywhere, they’ll never have a crisis there without a large-scale war. Well, the second option, what’s the second option? In the next world, we will discuss the second option. laughing
          5. avia1991
            avia1991 9 August 2014 21: 09
            +1
            Quote: supertiger21
            Americans worry and worry about our actions

            This is just what surprises: they have an army one and a half times more, and together with NATO - 2, they are equipped .. at least not worse, money - immeasurably, do not suffer moral remorse .. and nevertheless, they are worried. Why's that? ..Maybe, just SUT .....deleted apollo? wink
            1. avia1991
              avia1991 9 August 2014 22: 02
              0
              Quote: avia1991
              ..... deleted Apollo?

              Ok, Apollo, let's call them differently: PADLACE winked
              "Padlases are ski boots, where the legs are inserted" - V. Dahl, Explanatory Dictionary.
          6. Sandov
            Sandov 10 August 2014 20: 15
            0
            Quote: supertiger21
            If the Americans are worried and worried about our actions, then we are doing everything right! am

            But I generally think on the drum the opinion of these gringos. Let them look at themselves from the side. The Maghreb overbalanced all the countries of the Phillington regional committee, now the cattle of Russians rush in Ukraine.
          7. dummy
            dummy 12 August 2014 10: 07
            0
            They just fly weakly in front of our spy’s nose. That envy and rage. And they shout loudly so that no one in silence thinks that their pilots are worse than our newcomers, then no size of the military budget will prove their weakness.
        2. vlade99
          vlade99 9 August 2014 14: 09
          +12
          For a long time, our rocket launchers didn’t run to the cubes in an AWOL.
          1. demon1978
            demon1978 9 August 2014 16: 34
            +4
            vlade99 RU Today, 14:09 ↑
            For a long time, our rocket launchers didn’t run to the cubes in an AWOL.

            Exactly !!! And our submariners quite a while ago did not feel the women on the beaches of Miami !!!
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            2. zennon
              zennon 9 August 2014 18: 00
              +6
              Quote: demon1978

              Exactly !!! And our submariners quite a while ago did not feel the women on the beaches of Miami !!!

              The trophy saxophone wheezed, and a medal for the city of Washington shone on his chest ...
              1. avia1991
                avia1991 9 August 2014 21: 50
                +1
                Quote: zennon
                and a medal shone on his chest

                Faceted vodka poured into a glass,
                Quote: zennon
                The trophy saxophone wheezed,
                and glowed on his chest
                medal for the city of Washington ...

                laughing good
              2. aksakal
                aksakal 10 August 2014 15: 53
                0
                Quote: zennon
                Quote: demon1978

                Exactly !!! And our submariners quite a while ago did not feel the women on the beaches of Miami !!!

                The trophy saxophone wheezed, and a medal for the city of Washington shone on his chest ...
                - the last time I picked up the minuses, when I was surprised at your unwillingness to fight, well, there were posts "a la if only there was no war!", "God forbid getting 200!" etc. Well, you have already decided - or we are trying to achieve and lead to the fact that what would come true on your demotivator, or we do not want war. And to dream in vain without the desire to fight - somehow I do not respect. It's like "I want a girl!", While not wanting to even lift the ass off the couch. If you want - dress more smartly, earn money and go to hot places to seduce! Action leads to results.
                1. zennon
                  zennon 10 August 2014 20: 06
                  +1
                  Quote: aksakal
                  Well, so you have already decided - either we seek and lead to the fact that something on your demotivator comes true, or we do not want a war.

                  Well, you could immediately ask if there were any misunderstandings. Do you want my answers? I have them! laughing But seriously, here it is: we still have to fight. Well, there are two bears in one den ... Of course, this war cannot be nuclear, there will be no winner, and it will last only 20 minutes, boring ... This will be a series of local but very tough conflicts, one of them is now in Ukraine. Are we ready for them? No ... The whole economy of the world is under them. They have allies, blocks, bases, technical, technological
                  It’s a scientific, and now a scientific advantage. They have two more populations. The war is already on and we are losing it. What to do? How to turn the tide, what to oppose? I wrote about this more than once. We need a powerful, integrated, diversified
                  I am the economy! We need allies, and most importantly, a national idea, with the setting of long-range goals and current tasks! In short, we need a doctrine. Not a military one, but a global one. All this has been achieved by the Chinese in some 30 years! We need to repeat this path, but with reliance on our merits, science, excellent engineering school, perseverance in achieving goals. Well, then- "And a medal for the city of Washington shone on his chest!" Something like this ...
                  1. aksakal
                    aksakal 11 August 2014 10: 21
                    +1
                    Quote: zennon
                    They have two more people. The war is already going on, and we are losing it. What to do? How to turn the tide, what to oppose? I wrote about this more than once. We need a powerful, integrated, diversified economy! We need allies, and most importantly, national idea, with setting long-range goals and current tasks! In short, doctrine is needed. Not military, but global.

                    - It is easily overcome by a powerful consolidation of the population and a strong, unambiguously expressed political will of the state elite, especially the political power of the political elite. In the 30s of the last century, everything was exactly the same! The entire population of Europe tried to go to the USSR, but it happened, no need "here only the Germans attacked us!", It will be interesting to know that there were many times (!) More Frenchmen who fought on the side of Nazi Germany against the USSR than the French in all units of the Resistance, led by Charles de Gaulle, including the famous detachment "Normandie-Niemen"! I will not talk about Italians, Finns, Romanians, Hungarians and other allies :))) The prevalence in the population was approximately the same, and Ervopa's technical and technological advantage over the USSR was EVEN STEERER at that time! In the thirties, the conscientious ones only miraculously received a Ford truck as a sample and tried to create on its basis their own truck at the plant, now called the plant named after. Likhachev. That is, there was not even a serial truck at all! Not to mention purely military equipment! And after all nothing, COVERED!
                    I now see only the elements of consolidation, more precisely, the readiness of the people for such a consolidation, and nothing more. And about the political will not even gu-gu! - they didn't even try to voice it! So, in your statement, "alas, we are gambling!" I saw nothing surprising. It can not be in any other way
                    1. Kassandra
                      Kassandra 11 August 2014 23: 32
                      0
                      and the best cars before 1919 were Russo-Balt .....
                  2. aksakal
                    aksakal 11 August 2014 10: 21
                    0
                    Quote: zennon
                    They have two more people. The war is already going on, and we are losing it. What to do? How to turn the tide, what to oppose? I wrote about this more than once. We need a powerful, integrated, diversified economy! We need allies, and most importantly, national idea, with setting long-range goals and current tasks! In short, doctrine is needed. Not military, but global.

                    - It is easily overcome by a powerful consolidation of the population and a strong, unambiguously expressed political will of the state elite, especially the political power of the political elite. In the 30s of the last century, everything was exactly the same! The entire population of Europe tried to go to the USSR, but it happened, no need "here only the Germans attacked us!", It will be interesting to know that there were many times (!) More Frenchmen who fought on the side of Nazi Germany against the USSR than the French in all units of the Resistance, led by Charles de Gaulle, including the famous detachment "Normandie-Niemen"! I will not talk about Italians, Finns, Romanians, Hungarians and other allies :))) The prevalence in the population was approximately the same, and Ervopa's technical and technological advantage over the USSR was EVEN STEERER at that time! In the thirties, the conscientious ones only miraculously received a Ford truck as a sample and tried to create on its basis their own truck at the plant, now called the plant named after. Likhachev. That is, there was not even a serial truck at all! Not to mention purely military equipment! And after all nothing, COVERED!
                    I now see only the elements of consolidation, more precisely, the readiness of the people for such a consolidation, and nothing more. And about the political will not even gu-gu! - they didn't even try to voice it! So, in your statement, "alas, we are gambling!" I saw nothing surprising. It can not be in any other way
                    1. zennon
                      zennon 11 August 2014 23: 00
                      +1
                      Quote: aksakal
                      So what about your statement "alas, we are playing!" I saw nothing surprising. It can not be in any other way

                      You were interested in my position, I outlined it. Do not forget, the USSR enjoyed not a little support from the population of the countries you wrote about. The left was on the rise. In Italy, the positions of the Communists were very strong. Yes and more.
                      Quote: aksakal
                      In the thirties, the conscientious ones only miraculously received a Ford truck as a sample and tried to create on its basis their own truck at the plant, now called the plant named after. Likhachev.

                      Yes, then we bought everything! The same Germany delivered literally everything until the last days! An interesting fact is, AFTER the outbreak of war, Italy delivered the ordered destroyer! We had allies in the war. Tricky, arrogant, but very strong and influential allies! I must admit that Lend-lease from the 42nd year played a VERY significant role in the struggle. Now we have no one in the allies, and Russia is not territorially equal in number to the USSR either in number or number (in comparable numbers). We just crawled out from the times of EBN, -12 -15 years is not a term. Now the confrontation is suicidal. Yes, I am well aware of all the disadvantages of this position, but it is real! Your concrete proposals?
                      1. Kassandra
                        Kassandra 11 August 2014 23: 05
                        0
                        starting in 1942, supplies of oil and motor oils from the United States through third countries to the Reich played a very significant role.
                        the Germans began their blitzkrieg with an oil supply of only 6-8 months. synthetic oil, unlike gasoline, they then could not do ...
                        if not for these American deliveries to Germany, the Second World War would have ended by the winter of 1942-43.
                        Confrontation is now suicidal for everyone in the nuclear age.
                      2. Kassandra
                        Kassandra 11 August 2014 23: 29
                        0
                        PS, also supplied tungsten for armor-piercing shells of Panther guns
                        all this traveled on the Eastern Front, shooting and killing Russians.
                        Americans bombed German synthetic gasoline plants and oil fields in Ploiesti only during a landing in Normandy.
                        Therefore, when Truman publicly said what he said, he did not joke:
                        "If we see that Germany is winning, then we should help Russia, and if Russia is winning, then we should help Germany, and thus let them kill as much as possible .."
                        - Harry Truman (New York Times, 24.06.1941)
                    2. Normal
                      Normal 11 August 2014 23: 25
                      +2
                      Quote: aksakal
                      In the thirties, the conscientious ones only miraculously received a Ford truck as a sample and tried to create on its basis their own truck at the plant, now called the plant named after. Likhachev. That is, there was not even a serial truck at all!


                      As always, the elder shines with knowledge. And in fact

                      The AMO-F-15 car was developed on the basis of the Italian FIAT 15 Ter truck, the assembly of which the AMO plant conducted from 1917 to 1919 ....
                      The preparation for the in-house production of this truck at AMO began in January 1924. By this time, the plant had 163 drawings received from Italy, as well as 513 manufactured already at AMO in previous years ....
                      The first car was assembled on the night of November 1, 1924, and in the afternoon of November 6, we completed the assembly of the tenth, last car of the pre-production batch. On November 7, 1924, these 10 cars, painted red, took part in a proletarian demonstration on Red Square in Moscow, and on November 25, at noon, three cars from the top ten (No. 1, No. 8 and No. 10) set off from Red Square in the first test run for Soviet cars along the route: Moscow - Tver - Vyshny Volochek - Novgorod - Leningrad - Luga - Vitebsk - Smolensk - Roslavl - Moscow. The success of the rally confirmed the sufficient level of quality of AMO products and in March 1925 the mass production of AMO-F-15 cars began - 1925 cars were manufactured in 113, and in the next year, 1926 - 342 copies. [1]
                      Production gradually increased, and by 1931 6971 copies were made. AMO-F-15 of which 2590 units. It was produced in the 1929/30 business year.

                      https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/АМО-Ф-15


                      So that's it! According to Aksakal's 6971 truck, this "did not have its own serial truck at all!"
                      But about Ford.

                      The first contacts of representatives of Soviet Russia with Ford managers in Detroit took place in the spring of 1919 ....
                      The birthday of the enterprise is considered January 24, 1932. Investments amounted to approximately thirty million dollars of those years.

                      Ford specialists made the main conveyor and helped Soviet engineers master the documentation for the production, by then, of outdated, but well-established, passenger and freight chassis, as well as the main types of Ford engines.
                      nnov.ec/ГАЗ#.D0.A4.D0.BE.D1.80.D0.B4_.D0.B2_.D0.A1.D0.A1.D0.A1.D0.A0

                      On May 31, 1929, the Supreme Economic Council of the USSR and the American company Ford Motor Company entered into an agreement on technical assistance for the organization and establishment of mass production of cars and trucks. The basis of the production program were selected models Ford-A and Ford-AA ...

                      April 17, 1935, a hundred thousandth car rolled off the assembly line of the plant. It was a passenger GAZ-A. Thus, GAZ was the first automotive company in the country to produce 100 cars.
                      According to the agreement with Ford Motor, GAZ continued to receive technical support from the American company for another 5 years after the plant was launched ...

                      https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Горьковский_автомобильный_


                      factory


                      In general, the elder in his repertoire. They are trying to copy from him at the Likhachev plant from a truck that almost miraculously happened to be there, but they are not releasing it at Ford's factory bought and established by the Americans (the future GAZ) in Nizhny Novgorod.
                      Although...
                      If Stalin, as the aksakal claimed, was robbing RIVER vessels ...
                      What can you talk to him about?
            3. sgazeev
              sgazeev 9 August 2014 18: 51
              +4
              Quote: demon1978
              vlade99 RU Today, 14:09 ↑
              For a long time, our rocket launchers didn’t run to the cubes in an AWOL.

              Exactly !!! And our submariners quite a while ago did not feel the women on the beaches of Miami !!!

              “Never fight the Russians. They will respond to your every military trick with unpredictable stupidity. ”The Russian submarine of Project 955 Borei surfaced in the US in the Long Island Strait near New York. Today's appearance of a Russian nuclear submarine a kilometer from Manhattan and the Statue of Liberty caused more than panic in the Pentagon, but breaking news and a deadly horror that has seized all Americans without exception. Opinion polls conducted an hour after the Borei surfaced showed that frightened Americans, feeling an unpleasant chill from the foreign military presence in their home and having time to examine the “Russian death machine” in all details off their shores, demand an immediate end to the campaign in Afghanistan, and also curtailment of military preparations against Syria and Iran. angry
        3. asar
          asar 9 August 2014 14: 23
          +8
          As promised to the mattresses:

          asar August 6, 2014 11:03 AM | The winner in the war in Ukraine will receive everything

          Rest, dog! Tomorrow - the day after tomorrow, (well, soon, in short - soon!) "Bears" will come to see you! I can't know - California, Okinawa or Hawaii - but wait! And flinch

          And we will "pull" you again! To measure, stsuki, they know! And our pilots are GOOD!
        4. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak 9 August 2014 15: 00
          +2
          Quote: zanoza
          Miss the "striped" Russian Air Force

          However, these idiots with girlish memory are brazenly silent about the presence of their submarines near the borders of Russia. And their planes also fly near Russia without a twinge of conscience.
          1. sgazeev
            sgazeev 9 August 2014 18: 54
            +4
            Quote: Hedgehog
            Quote: zanoza
            Miss the "striped" Russian Air Force

            However, these idiots with girlish memory are brazenly silent about the presence of their submarines near the borders of Russia. And their planes also fly near Russia without a twinge of conscience.

            As it turned out, the US Navy simply missed the moment when the Borey submarine, also known as the “955 Project”, surfaced within line of sight from the US coast. The praised US tracking systems did not record the movement of our submarine.

            According to the representative of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, the ascent of our submarine in the immediate vicinity of New York and its entry into the territorial waters of the United States was “Absolutely ridiculous accident. "The navigational devices on the submarine refused and, in order to orient, the commander of the submarine was forced to unmask himself and issue a command to ascend."

            Therefore, the General Staff was extremely surprised when the commander attached photographs of the Statue of Liberty and strolling tourists on Manhattan Island to a radiogram with a report on his whereabouts.
        5. Момент
          Момент 9 August 2014 15: 06
          +30
          Something like this. We begin the study of the enemy’s pain points.
          1. samuil60
            samuil60 9 August 2014 15: 51
            +4
            He does not pull on Gtler. More likely on Charlie Chaplin.
            1. sgazeev
              sgazeev 9 August 2014 18: 57
              +3
              Quote: samuil60
              He does not pull on Gtler. More likely on Charlie Chaplin.

              Hitler would be the first to strangle him for racial inferiority, and Chaplin would break the glasses in the White House. wassat
            2. zennon
              zennon 10 August 2014 00: 02
              0
              Quote: samuil60
              He does not pull on Gtler. More likely on Charlie Chaplin.

              As some kind of skunk gets rid of everyone, everyone remembers Hitler. People do not really scale. hi
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        7. demon1978
          demon1978 9 August 2014 16: 12
          +4
          zanoza RU Today, 13:53 ↑
          The "striped" ones missed the Russian Air Force near their borders, which is why the new generation of American warriors are "frightened" out of habit.
          Get used to it ...

          But what was "LAFA", how everything was "GOOD" fellow And then NATE-ZDRASTE-
          ARRIVED !!!: and from where only HAVE taken ??? !!! And what to do now belay !!! ??? get used to it again crying ??? !!!
          Not hunting, BUT IT WILL HAVE !!!!! Stock up on diapers "gentlemen" !!!!
        8. sub307
          sub307 10 August 2014 13: 33
          0
          "They will get used to it ...", or they will write a report on the "dismissal" ..., or they will whine for a long time and "scribble" complaints about the "bad Russians".
      2. 1812 1945
        1812 1945 9 August 2014 13: 57
        +11
        Quote: Giant thought
        Let the mattresses know that we still have gunpowder in the powder flasks, and we keep it dry.

        Absolutely right! All this transatlantic world should not feel safe, trying to rake the heat with the wrong hands!
        1. net abortion
          net abortion 9 August 2014 14: 06
          +12
          Quote: 1812 1945
          heat


          From the Red Ray and the surrounding area
          Details were received from the “captured-liberated” city: “In Krasniy Luch, in addition to shelling, the plane also flew about 10 sorties. But judging by the sound, it was unloading somewhere further, perhaps in Anthracite, or maybe somewhere in the mine. there was shelling of neighborhoods.

          From what was seen through the car window: at all checkpoints there are "liberators" driven from the Western regions. Some are sometimes even difficult to understand because of the strong dialect, when the Ukrainian language turns into a set of some sounds.

          The phrase at the checkpoint near Svetlodarsk, at the moment when the "grads" standing nearby fired a full supply towards Gorlovka-Donetsk. One of the "liberators" said:

          - The beauty! negative

          , your mother and all family members to where all these missiles will fly. am

          Red Ray:
          During yesterday evening and night, the enemy with large forces entered the Red Beam and basically occupied the city. The enemy is also occupied by the villages of Vakhrushevo, Khrustalnoye and Bokovo-Platovo.

          Units of the army of the Lugansk Republic from the Cossack National Guard Kozitsyn basically fled the city without a fight. The battle for the city continues to lead only a militia detachment. Thus, the enemy completed the encirclement of the Donetsk-Gorlovsk group of the army of New Russia and is leading an attack on Anthracite. Our units counterattack the enemy from the south, in the Novopetrovsky area and are fighting with units of the National Guard and the Polish PMC defending in this area.

          At night, by artillery units of the DNI militias north of the settlement Panteleymonovka destroyed a large column of the enemy.


          This morning the enemy launched an attack on Ilovaisk. Thanks to the measures taken in advance, the enemy convoy, which advanced in the Dobropillya region, was attacked at the time of deployment and completely defeated. The enemy suffered huge losses in manpower and equipment. There are no losses from our side.

          Today, at 6 and 6.30 am local time, the enemy fired several times at the city of Donetsk, firing at the Tochmash plant and residential areas. There is destruction.
          1. vladimirZ
            vladimirZ 9 August 2014 14: 16
            +21
            Quote: net abort
            Today at 6 and 6.30 am local time, the enemy fired ...
            ... completed the encirclement of the Donetsk-Gorlovskaya group of the army of New Russia and is leading the offensive ...
            During yesterday evening and night, the enemy with large forces entered the Red Beam and mainly occupied the cities ...



            Terrible words, like in 1941, a message from the Information Bureau.
            When, after all, Russia will really help Novorossia, not by sending troops, but by real financial and material assistance to Novorossia so that its army does not retreat, does not suffer defeat, but can effectively protect its land, the life of Russian people and their loved ones from Bandera fascists and their American and Western hosts?
            1. Gradus HuK
              Gradus HuK 9 August 2014 16: 14
              +3
              Only when the system changes! Oligarchs to the answer!
              1. Bayonet
                Bayonet 9 August 2014 21: 43
                +4
                Quote: GradusHuK
                Only when the system changes! Oligarchs to the answer!
            2. sssla
              sssla 9 August 2014 17: 20
              +3
              Quote: vladimirZ
              When, after all, will Russia really help Novorossia

              Do not you understand? Will not. Only volunteers and some types of weapons
              1. vladimirZ
                vladimirZ 9 August 2014 18: 07
                +2
                sssla (5)
                Quote: vladimirZ
                When, after all, will Russia really help Novorossia


                Do not you understand? Will not. Only volunteers and some types of weapons


                I understand it. But I would like to "open their eyes" to others that it is not worth waiting for big help from oligarchic Russia to the Russian people of the people's republics of Novorossia.
                They will not risk their "capital" acquired by the "backbreaking labor" of plundering Russia for the sake of the Motherland, Russia, the Russian people of Novorossiya.
        2. sgazeev
          sgazeev 9 August 2014 19: 00
          0
          Quote: 1812 1945
          Quote: Giant thought
          Let the mattresses know that we still have gunpowder in the powder flasks, and we keep it dry.

          Absolutely right! All this transatlantic world should not feel safe, trying to rake the heat with the wrong hands!

          In action movies they are brave.
      3. 222222
        222222 9 August 2014 14: 01
        +18
        Zhirinovsky: "Only one person, the President of Russia, will make a decision on Ukraine !!"
        and "Zhirinovsky: only Putin will decide the fate of Ukraine and the decision has already been made" ""
        1. rf xnumx
          rf xnumx 9 August 2014 14: 49
          -5
          V. Zhirinovsky calls A. Avakov (got to A. Gerashchenko)
          1. PalSanych
            PalSanych 9 August 2014 15: 48
            +1
            when will they all die !!!
            1. ioann1
              ioann1 11 August 2014 18: 02
              +2
              PalSanych, the flies themselves will not die ...
          2. Gradus HuK
            Gradus HuK 9 August 2014 16: 30
            +2
            Gerych is a trand and he himself believes in what lies.
          3. xana usa
            xana usa 9 August 2014 17: 25
            0
            but what does this hog do in the American zone and screams if necessary then I will save the ukrofarm of the USA but the macaque didn’t give the team a face, and this mongrel will most likely be yapping from Canada
          4. ioann1
            ioann1 11 August 2014 18: 06
            0
            Anton Gerashchenko finished. With him, like with all the fascists of Ukraine, you need to talk only in the courtroom.
      4. lelikas
        lelikas 9 August 2014 14: 03
        +12
        Quote: Thought Giant
        Let the mattresses know that we still have gunpowder in the powder flasks, and we keep it dry.

        Their point is not iron, which they successfully proved.
        Surprisingly, they did not say that the very existence of Russia intensifies their tension?
        It is necessary to dump the Tonus juice for them in the next flight, let them get used to it.
        1. izGOI
          izGOI 9 August 2014 15: 00
          +3
          Quote: lelikas
          the very existence of Russia, intensifies their tension

          Plus for this phrase !!!!
          Were it not for Russia, there would be another country that they do not like. It's just that the state has such a breed. But as long as there is Russia, to be its main irritant, the world will survive!
        2. fyodor
          fyodor 9 August 2014 16: 25
          +1
          Yes, it’s for sure, the fact that we exist constantly makes Amers strain their anus, and about the juice to the point, keep it in good shape, otherwise it wouldn’t happen ... laughing
      5. sscha
        sscha 9 August 2014 14: 04
        +7
        The self-proclaimed "hegemony" of the United States, which has taken hold of all normal people, is leading to the escalation of international tension.
        ZY Continuation of the article under such a headline will be written by any HEADLY THINKING person !!! hi
        Awareness of supposedly exceptionalism leads to fascism !!! ...
      6. snifer
        snifer 9 August 2014 14: 24
        +3
        There is the usual escalation of the situation before the war.
        P / S damn wanted to write a comment below and he appeared here request
        1. asar
          asar 9 August 2014 14: 36
          +11
          Guys! Are we really heading for war ?! Canada, Australia are already openly helping dill - in the "Borispol" C-130 "they park" with a "load" for dill!
          1. mirag2
            mirag2 9 August 2014 14: 59
            +7
            Not just rolling, but rolling down — and the whole world — and Europe, and the Americas and Asia and Africa — accelerating, rolling downhill. By and large, because no one wants to give in, but there is a bargain: who is stronger.
          2. mixailval
            mixailval 11 August 2014 12: 22
            0
            This is what we need. They denigrate themselves before the world community. We do not even need to do anything. They are an evil empire. Masks are ripped off!
            They decided at one time that the world community is only NATO countries. It became obvious that this is not so.
            They destroy themselves. Do not bother them.

            And there will be no global war, do not piss. Gone are the days. Just as the days of war wars army to army in the field.
            Landmines then lie at the bottom of the oceans near the coast of these countries, since the times of the USSR. I quote Zhirinovsky, and he says 99% of the truth. Fact.
            1. Dikson
              Dikson 12 August 2014 06: 44
              0
              Practice shows that the notorious "world community" is just a fool of cardboard, an absolutely farcical concept that exists only to instill its own significance in states that the major players on the geopolitical map simply do not care about deeply ..
        2. kodxnumx
          kodxnumx 9 August 2014 14: 41
          +4
          Like a balm in my heart, when I see how the United States watches at the sight of our Armed Forces of RUSSIA. And once a day, it means that they respect what needs to be proved! soldier
          1. 23 region
            23 region 9 August 2014 14: 57
            +6
            Quote: kod3001
            Like a balm in my heart, when I see how the United States watches at the sight of our Armed Forces of RUSSIA. And once a day, it means that they respect what needs to be proved! soldier

            The number of the US Air Force in May 2013 amounted to 934 fighters, 96 bombers, 138 attack aircraft, 329 transport aircraft, 216 tankers, 938 aircraft and 921 other aircraft.

            For comparison, the number of the Russian Air Force as of May 2013 is 738 fighters, 163 bombers, 153 attack aircraft, 372 transport aircraft, 18 tankers, 200 aircraft and 500 other aircraft. As you can see, there is no “monstrous” quantitative superiority.

            However, there are nuances, the main of which - US aviation is aging. At the same time, the aircraft fleet of the Russian Federation will be actively modernized over the next 5-7 years.
            1. asar
              asar 9 August 2014 15: 42
              +4
              However, there are nuances, the main of which - US aviation is aging. At the same time, the aircraft fleet of the Russian Federation will be actively modernized over the next 5-7 years.

              If it will be these 5-7 years! Everything "rushed" too fast!
              1. sscha
                sscha 9 August 2014 16: 19
                +1
                Hence the conclusion - GDP wants to be in time, and therefore not ...
            2. supertiger21
              supertiger21 9 August 2014 15: 43
              0
              Quote: Region 23
              However, there are nuances, the main of which - US aviation is aging. At the same time, the aircraft fleet of the Russian Federation will be actively modernized over the next 5-7 years.


              With all due respect to our successes on the world stage Yes , it is not necessary to divide in advance the skin of a dead bear stop .

              I would argue with you about obsolete equipment. For example, the United States has long written off F-14s, as well as absolutely all units of the first modifications F-15, F-16 and F / A-18. Only modernized units of modifications C, D and E. But do not forget that the United States purchases 2443 units of F-35 fighters in three versions.

              Our Air Force also does not stand still and more and more equipment is being supplied every year. For example, out-of-date Su-24 bombers are being intensively replaced with new Su-34s. Su-30 and Su-35S are becoming more and more, having reached the number of already 60 units.

              Therefore, successes in the field of the Air Force both with them and with us. hi
              1. Sarmat149
                Sarmat149 9 August 2014 16: 47
                +2
                . But do not forget that the United States purchases 2443 units of F-35 fighters in three versions.
                They do not buy them, because the aircraft is crude and expensive, and the declared amount of purchase has long been reduced. There is no money. You don’t need to throw hats, but you don’t need to say how, dear.
                1. supertiger21
                  supertiger21 9 August 2014 17: 16
                  +1
                  Quote: Sarmat149
                  They don’t buy them, because the plane is raw and expensive


                  Unfortunately, they just buy them, but so far in a small series. At the moment, 100 units have been produced.

                  quote
                  Quote: Sarmat149
                  Yes, and the declared amount of purchase has long been reduced.


                  There have been no official statements on this yet. They have reduced the number of aircraft purchased so far, while the United Kingdom, the Netherlands, and Italy. The USA has not yet announced a reduction.


                  Quote: Sarmat149
                  . You don’t need to throw hats, but how do you say no, dear.


                  I agree!
                2. Kassandra
                  Kassandra 11 August 2014 22: 42
                  0
                  less than 1000 of them around the world will be, and significantly.
                  with the F-35B generally play and withdraw from service, or not put at all
            3. 77bob1973
              77bob1973 9 August 2014 16: 54
              +1
              Do not forget that the US Air Force is practically scattered around the world and maneuvering with forces in the short term is more difficult or even impossible.
              1. Lelek
                Lelek 9 August 2014 17: 53
                +2
                Do not forget about the large number of US allies and their small number with us. In fact, we are one on one with the rest of the armed world. You do not need to count on China and India, their doctrine - let them fight, but I will wait. soldier
                1. Izon
                  Izon 11 August 2014 21: 11
                  0
                  We must not also forget that the entire armed world took turns receiving from us on cabbage soup, and that OUR orders are much shorter than THEIR orders, We have already proved more than once that we do not need someone else's, and even if they climbed into the capital, we conduct them. And America - it’s time to reel on what others have learned, let them just twitch - and over Washington it will rise: "I am satisfied with the ruins of the stronghold of evil."
            4. Bayonet
              Bayonet 9 August 2014 21: 51
              0
              Quote: Region 23
              The number of the US Air Force in May 2013 amounted to 934 fighters, 96 bombers, 138 attack aircraft, 329 transport aircraft, 216 tankers, 938 aircraft and 921 other aircraft.

              Apart from these, the US Air Force Davis-Monten Air Base is located in Tucson, Arizona. In addition to combat aircraft parts (355th fighter wing) and headquarters (12th command of the US Air Force), the largest fleet of aircraft in the world is stored at the Davis-Monten base, which is probably more than 4400 units, forty space ships are stored, the total value of the property exceeds thirty five billion dollars.
              1. mixailval
                mixailval 11 August 2014 12: 13
                0
                These are maize and scrap trash. I will explain.
                This technique is not integrated into modern military information networks. To upgrade, you need sooooo much money and time.
          2. sgazeev
            sgazeev 9 August 2014 19: 08
            +2
            Quote: kod3001
            Like a balm in my heart, when I see how the United States watches at the sight of our Armed Forces of RUSSIA. And once a day, it means that they respect what needs to be proved! soldier

            “We ask the Americans not to consider this a response to the regular appearance in the immediate vicinity of the borders of the territorial sea of ​​the Russian Federation submarines of the US Navy. True, it is worth adding that we always fix the appearance of American submarines, as well as their movements. And the Americans, as it turned out, may not always do this. And it was only a case that helped us to identify it, ”the interlocutor of the teleporter highlighted with intonation the word“ case ”.

            Defense Ministry experts believe that the Americans simply do not have the ability to reliably track the movements of this class of submarines: “Although it was believed that the Americans had problems only with tracking our submarines with a titanium hull (project 945“ Barracuda ”), it turns out that they can easily miss the steel case, - the representative of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation told NTV correspondent. - We will continue to continue to be on combat duty off the coast of the United States, while we do not violate any international agreements. And the incident that happened is pure coincidence and should not be regarded as a provocation. ”The fears of the Americans are understandable, and there are two reasons for this. Firstly, the ascent of our submarine revealed gaps in the underwater tracking systems of the Pentagon, which will not be so easy to eliminate. Secondly, Borey-class submarines and their latest modifications can be equipped with more than just Granat cruise missiles (the Americans call them SS-N-21 Sampson). Although they easily fly not only to the coast, but also much further, to almost any major US city. There is something to worry about. The most annoying thing for Americans is that Russia does not violate international law of the sea in such cases, and they are not able to ban us from military patrols. One hope is that we have few submarines of this class and, unfortunately, we will not be able to constantly play on the nerves of the Pentagon.
          3. hyperboreia
            hyperboreia 9 August 2014 19: 54
            +1
            30 meters from the plane! Class!
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      8. Arberes
        Arberes 9 August 2014 15: 21
        +5
        Quote: Thought Giant
        Let the mattresses know that we still have gunpowder in the powder flasks, and we keep it dry.

        I would also remember about the Iranian contract. We must still deliver to Iran C-300!
        Let the west flinch! Good podlyanochka under Western sanctions!
        1. RusDV
          RusDV 9 August 2014 16: 00
          +2
          Quote: Arberes
          Quote: Thought Giant
          Let the mattresses know that we still have gunpowder in the powder flasks, and we keep it dry.

          I would also remember about the Iranian contract. We must still deliver to Iran C-300!
          Let the west flinch! Good podlyanochka under Western sanctions!

          Or maybe not, Vladimir! It’s necessary, Barack. I have to! am
      9. Cherdak
        Cherdak 9 August 2014 15: 25
        +1
        Quote: Thought Giant
        we still have gunpowder in powder flasks

        Quote: *
        such a close span endangered the lives of American pilots

        ... but they already obviously have no berries in the buttocks No.
        1. goose
          goose 12 August 2014 12: 10
          0
          And you probably can’t imagine what vibrational loads an airplane experiences in a confined wake of engines, especially if it’s a civilian airplane. But what if the fast and the furious one turns on? It can reach the collapse of the entire structure of the aircraft. And this is a real danger. There are plenty of such cases.

          But periodically it is necessary to "drive" spies, yes. I read that in Soviet times it was not customary to cover such incidents in the press.
      10. 222222
        222222 9 August 2014 16: 29
        +2
        American media: the activity of the Russian Air Force leads to the escalation of international tension ""
        and the repeated call on August 6 of the USS Vella Gulf (CG 72) into the Black Sea does not lead to an escalation of international tension .. Or He came to catch Black Sea katrans ..
        On August 8, the Vella Golf URO and the Turkish TCG Tuzla (P 1200) in the Black Sea held a joint maneuvering exercise.
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      12. Reserve officer
        Reserve officer 9 August 2014 20: 23
        +2
        If someone who calls himself the president of the United States betrays his own growing jerk for escalating the international situation, then he is right.
        But there is a silver lining - in the USA, the production of tulle paper will increase sharply, and this is jobs.
      13. severniy
        severniy 9 August 2014 22: 39
        0
        I would say, let them know, we keep him stsukkam ..
      14. subbtin.725
        subbtin.725 10 August 2014 05: 22
        0
        “These actions were so dangerous that the crew decided to stop the mission. The official with whom I spoke said that such a close flight endangered the lives of American pilots, ”wrote CNN's national security correspondent Jim Shutto in his commentary on the event.

        SUN, WHEN IS SCARY? Used to bomb those who can’t give change.
      15. GSH-18
        GSH-18 12 August 2014 10: 56
        0
        The scoundrels should know that the Russian Federation is not a geyropa for them! And you have to answer for the bazaar!
        The Commander-in-Chief and the Air Force are doing everything right. Do not give descent to the adversary. Unfortunately, they only understand and respect power.
    2. Juborg
      Juborg 9 August 2014 14: 31
      +6
      Probably the mattresses are afraid to get close to our strategic bombers, and they are screaming about Russia's aggressiveness. Perhaps they remember the capabilities of our BER and the like. As they say against scrap there is no reception, but the mattresses have no second scrap and I dare not to appear.
      1. asar
        asar 9 August 2014 14: 57
        0
        Let them just "stick out":
        The defensive armament of Tu-95 aircraft consists of 23-mm aircraft guns. On older versions of the aircraft, six twin AM-23 cannons were installed in three defensive rifle installations (upper, lower and aft), and only two AM-23 or GSh-23 guns on the Tu-95MS in the stern.


        Tear to shreds!
      2. GSH-18
        GSH-18 12 August 2014 11: 03
        0
        Quote: juborg
        Probably mattresses are afraid to get close to our strategists.

        They are not afraid, they have orders not to come close. A strategist always carries nuclear weapons. Because of this, it is impossible to attack him. Either make a volley or there is a danger of detonation in the immediate vicinity of the United States territory. But he can attack enemy fighters on occasion, and there are direct flight instructions for that!
    3. Rarahin
      Rarahin 10 August 2014 09: 52
      0
      Excellent song!
      Offering you the one that I really like. It can be considered prophetic. Listen to this.
    4. Bersaglieri
      Bersaglieri 10 August 2014 19: 17
      +1
      "Jackal-Chubais" is still at the helm ...
  2. Russian Alex
    Russian Alex 9 August 2014 13: 32
    +31
    a small warning to 3.14ndos (sit on your islet and do not climb where you should not), otherwise the consequences will not be long in coming.
    1. RusDV
      RusDV 9 August 2014 14: 02
      +2
      Why are they so afraid of our Air Force? Soon even taking off from the airfield in their direction will frighten them? Valerian women wagon and underpants container! For rubles! Let them relax and have fun. Everything is still ahead ... "The Russians are coming" is outdated, calm down. We are flying now!
      1. Rostovchanin
        Rostovchanin 9 August 2014 14: 06
        +4
        atomic bombers of the Russian air force

        Not really revived atomic engines ???? laughing
    2. Wednesday
      Wednesday 10 August 2014 17: 08
      0
      Do not play with memory
  3. Evgesh91
    Evgesh91 9 August 2014 13: 32
    +3
    fear dogs all right!
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      1. asar
        asar 9 August 2014 14: 39
        +1
        "The crew decided to terminate the mission ..."

        They promised to "come back", only the diapers will be changed! laughing
        And Donetsk is in the "ring"! Heck! Bastards!
    2. 23 region
      23 region 9 August 2014 14: 32
      +3
      Quote: Evgesh91
      fear dogs all right!

      The crew decided to stop the mission ...
      1. RusDV
        RusDV 9 August 2014 14: 39
        0
        Quote: 23 region

        The crew decided to stop the mission ...

        laughing maybe this is the third crew member the toilet urgently and permanently took ... the other two - somehow it was necessary to get out of the situation? Haynou !? wassat
        1. Was mammoth
          Was mammoth 9 August 2014 18: 01
          0
          Quote: RusDV
          laughing maybe this is the third crew member toilet urgently ...

          The youth saw teplushki only in the movies. I had to "skate in them. wink When the composition is on, and someone wanted it, then acrobatics is a very useful thing, and it’s difficult for one ... wink 40 people or 8 horses ... wink

          A senior representative of the General Staff of the Navy said that a submarine of the US Navy was discovered in the Barents Sea and was squeezed out of the border waters of Russia, Interfax reports.
          “A foreign submarine, presumably the Virginia class of the US Navy, was discovered on August 7 by the Northern Fleet duty forces in the Barents Sea,” he said.
          According to him, contact with the American submarine lasted about 27 minutes, and then she left the area.
          “A ship’s anti-submarine strike group, as well as an IL-38 anti-submarine aircraft, were sent to a designated area for search and tracking. By active actions of the anti-submarine forces of the Northern Fleet, the submarine was "squeezed out" of the border waters of the Russian Federation, ”the representative of the headquarters emphasized.
          According to the data presented, this is not the only fact of the discovery of foreign submarines in the Barents Sea in recent times.
          Do not escalate?
  4. skylare
    skylare 9 August 2014 13: 32
    +5
    Well, of course, only the United States Air Force and NATO should be active, all the rest should modestly fly 20 km from their airfield and wait for the highest resolution of the State Department. smile
  5. GRAY
    GRAY 9 August 2014 13: 32
    +12
    They are afraid and do the right thing.
    Dill will confirm if that.
    The junta is pulling military equipment under Kiev for defense.
    1. andrei332809
      andrei332809 9 August 2014 13: 58
      0
      Quote: GRAY
      The junta pulls military equipment under Kiev for defense

      what plane are they planning to crash this time? is it really reasonable or biden? well, for the fact that they did not give weapons, and did not go to the matskva war
      1. RusDV
        RusDV 9 August 2014 14: 25
        +7
        Quote: andrei332809
        Quote: GRAY
        The junta pulls military equipment under Kiev for defense

        what plane are they planning to crash this time? is it really reasonable or biden? well, for the fact that they did not give weapons, and did not go to the matskva war

        If the dill is flooded and the plane with rasmussen is not scary. Well, NATO (read the US) will not declare war on their orderly? They will draw another picture of how "terrorists" under the command of a GRU agent shot him down, plus "irrefutable evidence from social networks."
        Probably, it’s time we already have some provocation ... Samantha Power, for example, in the dark nook and cranny of the UN Security Council to rape and half-strangled Yaytsenyukh there and toss ... recourse
        1. andrei332809
          andrei332809 9 August 2014 14: 38
          +2
          Quote: RusDV
          Samantha Power, for example, in the dark nook of the UN Security Council to rape and half-strangled Yaytsenyukh there and toss ...

          Are you going to substitute Churkin? and imagine what the evidence will be on Twitter feel
          1. RusDV
            RusDV 9 August 2014 14: 45
            +1
            Yeah, Churkin will not be lucky ... if the rabbit smacks ... Well, you have to work! In general, rabbits are very dangerous in the period .... well, in general, you understand ... in a pinch, we scraped Vitaly’s alimony, but you can’t bring this up! Rabbits must be responsible for their atrocities ... am
        2. asar
          asar 9 August 2014 14: 45
          +2
          ... Samantha Power, for example, in the dark nook and cranny of the UN Security Council to rape and half-strangled Yaytsenyukh there and toss ...

          Brrr! Already in a shiver threw! We are not "chronicles", we will not drink so much - to throw themselves at Samantha! Personally, I won't drink that much! EGG SENSE and snot are easy to beat!
          1. RusDV
            RusDV 9 August 2014 14: 53
            +5
            Quote: asar
            ... I started to shiver! We are not "chronicles", we will not drink so much - to throw themselves at Samantha! Personally, I won't drink that much!


            An army soldier will go on a mission instead of a guardhouse .... with low vision ... recourse
            1. sgazeev
              sgazeev 9 August 2014 19: 43
              +1
              Quote: RusDV
              Quote: asar
              ... I started to shiver! We are not "chronicles", we will not drink so much - to throw themselves at Samantha! Personally, I won't drink that much!


              An army soldier will go on a mission instead of a guardhouse .... with low vision ... recourse

              Necessarily in a balaclava.
        3. Caa
          Caa 9 August 2014 14: 49
          +3
          Samantha Power, for example, in the dark nook of the UN Security Council to rape


          Who will agree to this? If only a junkie or a freak zombie lover! Let Churkin better ignore her further - she might burst from anger.
          1. Spnsr
            Spnsr 9 August 2014 16: 55
            +1
            Samantha. Better let Churkin ignore her further - she might burst with anger.
        4. Alf
          Alf 9 August 2014 15: 38
          +3
          Quote: RusDV
          Samantha Power, for example, in the dark nook of the UN Security Council to rape and half-strangled Yaytsenyukh there and toss ...

          Well, for example, I won’t drink so much, and even in the dark I can’t. What a psychological shock this will be. Although there are so many perverts in the zone, maybe there is a joke ...
          1. RusDV
            RusDV 9 August 2014 16: 04
            +2
            Quote: Alf
            Quote: RusDV
            Samantha Power, for example, in the dark nook of the UN Security Council to rape and half-strangled Yaytsenyukh there and toss ...

            Well, for example, I won’t drink so much, and even in the dark I can’t. What a psychological shock this will be. Although there are so many perverts in the zone, maybe there is a joke ...

            We’ll hire parashenko .... he’ll do everything for grandmas.
          2. sgazeev
            sgazeev 9 August 2014 19: 45
            0
            Quote: Alf
            Quote: RusDV
            Samantha Power, for example, in the dark nook of the UN Security Council to rape and half-strangled Yaytsenyukh there and toss ...

            Well, for example, I won’t drink so much, and even in the dark I can’t. What a psychological shock this will be. Although there are so many perverts in the zone, maybe there is a joke ...

            Maybe the Spoon sticks, he doesn’t care what hole ........
        5. andj61
          andj61 9 August 2014 16: 32
          0
          Quote: RusDV
          Samantha Power, for example, in the dark nook of the UN Security Council to rape and


          Do you think her character will change because of this? Although a hefty dose of regular sex therapy helps to get rid of neurosis and mental disorders.
          1. asar
            asar 9 August 2014 17: 32
            0
            May God grant patience to Vitaly Ivanovich!
        6. Blondy
          Blondy 9 August 2014 16: 35
          +1
          You will oblige Samantha to the death of this provocation! She has clearly not been "raped" in the last years like that, that way ... fifteen! and here - violence laughing
        7. GRAY
          GRAY 9 August 2014 18: 39
          +4
          Quote: RusDV
          Samantha Power, for example, in the dark nook of the UN Security Council to rape
        8. sgazeev
          sgazeev 9 August 2014 19: 28
          0
          Quote: RusDV
          Quote: andrei332809
          Quote: GRAY
          The junta pulls military equipment under Kiev for defense

          what plane are they planning to crash this time? is it really reasonable or biden? well, for the fact that they did not give weapons, and did not go to the matskva war

          If the dill is flooded and the plane with rasmussen is not scary. Well, NATO (read the US) will not declare war on their orderly? They will draw another picture of how "terrorists" under the command of a GRU agent shot him down, plus "irrefutable evidence from social networks."
          Probably, it’s time we already have some provocation ... Samantha Power, for example, in the dark nook and cranny of the UN Security Council to rape and half-strangled Yaytsenyukh there and toss ... recourse

          Who will perform this action, the baby will not climb this woman Yaga, if only Rabbit was forced to climb under it with a gun. Vitaly Ivanovich made him perform an a la blow job.
      2. asar
        asar 9 August 2014 14: 41
        0
        what plane are they planning to fill up this time

        They are afraid of us, stsuki! Tremble bastards!
      3. sgazeev
        sgazeev 9 August 2014 19: 22
        0
        Quote: andrei332809
        Quote: GRAY
        The junta pulls military equipment under Kiev for defense

        what plane are they planning to crash this time? is it really reasonable or biden? well, for the fact that they did not give weapons, and did not go to the matskva war

        In Kuev, the point was already playing, a convulsion of power was near Donetsk, the wounded beast was trying to bite harder. The parade might be, but crumpled. A wreath fell on Janika, a soldier fell on Poros and something fell on the parade. am
    2. Cadet787
      Cadet787 9 August 2014 14: 00
      +24
      Your time is over .... Listen to Mr. Churchill, he will not teach bad things.
      1. Hleb
        Hleb 9 August 2014 14: 07
        +1
        Yes, we’ll listen with pleasure, just provide the material in his words, not the demo that is created in a few minutes.
        although he was one of the most fierce haters of the USSR, he did not fool himself in parliament
    3. skeket
      skeket 9 August 2014 14: 04
      +2
      Quote: GRAY
      The junta is pulling military equipment under Kiev for defense.

      Although these true Europeans believe that Asian hordes live in the northeast of them, I think that the Horde people don’t even think about bombing Kiev. Here, with tank tracks, sweep out all this Bandera evil from this glorious city, yes ...
    4. nizrum
      nizrum 9 August 2014 14: 22
      +1
      for the parade ... getting ready for the day of non-fall
    5. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 9 August 2014 14: 37
      +2
      Quote: GRAY
      The junta is pulling military equipment under Kiev for defense.

      And who set you up for such a post fool They go empty at all, it's a tech parade.
      1. Hleb
        Hleb 9 August 2014 16: 08
        +10
        but how is it? this is not the site that was a couple of years ago, when it was possible to talk with everyone in the eye and really people who were connected with the army, or those who had a heart for that, really gathered. and today with these epaulets and ratings climb from everywhere up the discussion.
        lived to the point that there are replicas "Churchill will not teach bad"
        head banging against the wall ... and they tell us to listen to the man who hated us with the most sincere and fierce hatred, about which Stalin spoke out extremely sharply, who became essentially the parent of the idea of ​​the Cold War and the isolation of the USSR. Of course, he will not teach bad. ..
        so we will live that in a few years Poroshenko and we will be quoted in a similar spirit ... what? Hitler was praised even here, they say he didn’t destroy his people, the best autobahns in the world, he lifted the country ... and plus, plus. I remember.
        so what to talk about
    6. xana usa
      xana usa 9 August 2014 17: 28
      0
      what do the s-300s mean against the partisans? complete zero
  6. andranick
    andranick 9 August 2014 13: 33
    +3
    Of course, training flights, routes must be known not only theoretically smile
    1. tol100v
      tol100v 9 August 2014 14: 11
      0
      You won’t see everything in the tactical class.
  7. StolzSS
    StolzSS 9 August 2014 13: 33
    +7
    “These actions were so dangerous that the crew decided to stop the mission. The official with whom I spoke stated that such a close flight endangered the lives of American pilots, ”wrote CNN's national security correspondent Jim Shutto in his commentary on the event. We must reward the pilot for such actions, he did the right thing, let them know these bitches * children with whom are joking ... laughing
    1. VeteranS
      VeteranS 9 August 2014 14: 13
      +6
      I can imagine how many new diapers and deodorants it took for the brave American warriors to reduce the unpleasant consequences of the polite flight of our fighter! In my Soviet time, as a DA radio operator on a Tu-95, I flew over the Arctic, I remember in a panic several American phantoms came up to us for our escort ... The best and most reliable allies of our state are the Russian Army and Navy!
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  8. Dave36
    Dave36 9 August 2014 13: 36
    +3
    Donetsk is completely surrounded ...
    1. boozer
      boozer 9 August 2014 13: 44
      +10
      But who surrounded Donetsk is also surrounded - by units of the LPR ... And those who were surrounded earlier came out to surround those around them. In short there is such a mess ... wassat
      1. brelok
        brelok 9 August 2014 20: 14
        0
        Quote: boozer
        But who surrounded Donetsk is also surrounded - by units of the LPR ... And those who were surrounded earlier came out to surround those around them. In short there is such a mess ... wassat

        LAYERED PIE
    2. GRAY
      GRAY 9 August 2014 13: 44
      +5
      Quote: Dave36
      Donetsk is completely surrounded ...

      Summary from the Headquarters of the militia MO DNR 09.08.2014 12: 10 Moscow time

      During yesterday evening and night, the enemy with large forces entered the Red Beam and basically occupied the city. The enemy is also occupied by the villages of Vakhrushevo, Khrustalnoye and Bokovo-Platovo. Units of the army of the Lugansk Republic from the Cossack National Guard Kozitsyn basically fled the city without a fight. The battle for the city continues to lead only a militia detachment. Thus, the enemy completed the encirclement of the Donetsk-Gorlovka army group of New Russia and is leading an attack on Anthracite. Our units counterattack the enemy from the south, in the Novopetrovsky area and are fighting with units of the National Guard and the Polish PMC defending in this area.

      At night, by artillery units of the DNI militias north of the settlement Panteleymonovka destroyed a large column of the enemy.

      This morning the enemy launched an attack on Ilovaisk. Thanks to the measures taken in advance, the enemy convoy, which advanced in the Dobropillya region, was attacked at the time of deployment and completely defeated. The enemy suffered huge losses in manpower and equipment. There are no losses from our side.

      Today at 6 and 6.30 am local time, the enemy fired several times at the city of Donetsk, firing at the Tochmash plant and residential areas. There is destruction. No casualties have been reported at this time.
      1. SVAROGE
        SVAROGE 9 August 2014 13: 46
        +8
        God bless you BROTHERS !!!
  9. AVV
    AVV 9 August 2014 13: 37
    +2
    Well, what did they want, star-striped, bursting all over the world, let them know that they won’t get away with anything and will receive an answer in full !!! They are essentially cowards and understand only power !!!
  10. skylare
    skylare 9 August 2014 13: 37
    +3
    I apologize for something off topic: Ukrainian troops have completed the encirclement of the Donetsk-Gorlovsky group of militias and are now conducting an attack on Anthracite. Despite the large losses inflicted by the militias, the Ukrainians are pushing forward with the tenacity of a bulldozer. How much I want to hope for the best ...
    1. SVAROGE
      SVAROGE 9 August 2014 13: 43
      0
      In Israeli clinics require a fresh liver ...!
  11. SVAROGE
    SVAROGE 9 August 2014 13: 37
    +2
    I am shocked by these "warriors" (Americans, dill, etc. mold) ....
    It turns out that war is dangerous .... !!!
    1. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 9 August 2014 14: 35
      0
      WHO STARTED FIRST, TOGO AND SLIPPERS
      At night, they say, an assault and a final sweep is expected, followed by the mobilization of warlike, but swollen from idleness and gratuitous revolutionaries to the front. It would seem, where, if not on the front of the war that they had rushed through, to check the viability of their own ideas? [i]But no - they are not in a hurry to scam military feats and glory. [/I]

      Of course, shouting slogans in a crowd is easier than even walking on a guard!
      There is no danger, then in the crowd!
  12. machinistvl
    machinistvl 9 August 2014 13: 38
    0
    The Americans shook their nerves with fear, For our planes to take the hibs with us the next time, so that the Amerikos would cut down everything and radars and communications, then they’ll definitely put them in pants !!!
  13. Russian Alex
    Russian Alex 9 August 2014 13: 38
    +26
    proud to be RUSSIAN, with pressure on such a country, it is necessary to comply with the rules of TB. Those who did not take into account in the past were very sorry (they and their people)
    1. rasputin17
      rasputin17 9 August 2014 14: 25
      +7
      The USSR was proud, I am proud of Russia too !! While the Russian peoples are united, they are invincible !! soldier
  14. Andrey160479
    Andrey160479 9 August 2014 13: 38
    0
    A horse comes to the Americans !!!!!!!! Rather, their despotation horse !!!
  15. rumata63
    rumata63 9 August 2014 13: 39
    +1
    and the bombing of Iraq is so, childish pranks, today they only bombed.
  16. wanderer_032
    wanderer_032 9 August 2014 13: 40
    +5
    The Yankees are nervous, but they should have previously thought that the porridge brewed by them will have to slurp the whole world.
    I think ordinary American citizens do not want it to start ... as in a famous joke.
    There will be no winners, in which case ... The Earth will become unsuitable for human habitation.
    Therefore, as Carlson said:

    1. sgazeev
      sgazeev 9 August 2014 19: 58
      0
      Quote: wanderer_032
      The Yankees are nervous, but they should have previously thought that the porridge brewed by them will have to slurp the whole world.
      I think ordinary American citizens do not want it to start ... as in a famous joke.
      There will be no winners, in which case ... The Earth will become unsuitable for human habitation.
      Therefore, as Carlson said:


      Once the USSR hoped for a revolutionary upsurge of the German people, the result of June 22, 1941. Amerov cannot be taken away from the "Bush leg". stop
  17. B.T.V.
    B.T.V. 9 August 2014 13: 40
    0
    Nervous, but what to do, who is easy now ???
  18. Stypor23
    Stypor23 9 August 2014 13: 41
    0
    Venezuela. 2008. TU-160. Worn louse pants.
  19. sedoi
    sedoi 9 August 2014 13: 41
    +3
    A cool video clip and a great song. This is not far from Makarevich. Our pilots let the USA guys freak out - we must regularly fly over their borders.
  20. boozer
    boozer 9 August 2014 13: 41
    +1
    It's okay! We keep them in good shape. Let them be nervous.
  21. Barakuda
    Barakuda 9 August 2014 13: 41
    +3
    This is Odessa. We will come to you soon. How much is here to the USA, just a stone's throw.
    1. Praetorian
      Praetorian 9 August 2014 15: 24
      -1
      Understood nothing. Express yourself more clearly, otherwise it is not clear which side you are on! )
      1. andj61
        andj61 9 August 2014 16: 34
        0
        As I understand it, they set fire to the Kalomoyishi bank office!
  22. machinistvl
    machinistvl 9 August 2014 13: 41
    0
    And the Americans have nothing to fly so close, they were scared !!! Let them learn to fly first !!! soldier
    1. sgazeev
      sgazeev 9 August 2014 20: 01
      0
      Quote: machinistvl
      And the Americans have nothing to fly so close, they were scared !!! Let them learn to fly first !!! soldier

      With the massive use of drones, Americans will forget how to fly.
  23. Buran
    Buran 9 August 2014 13: 42
    0
    “These actions were so dangerous that the crew decided to stop fulfilling the mission. The official with whom I spoke declared that such a close flight had put the lives of American pilots at risk. ”

    Do they really think that the health of their pilots somehow makes us feel better? Although, most likely, Russian air defense is the best laxative for US aviation. McCain knows for sure, he has enuresis after Vietnam, so far.
    1. tol100v
      tol100v 9 August 2014 14: 23
      0
      Quote: Buran
      Although, most likely, Russian air defense is the best laxative,

      Not only a laxative, but also a sobering and anti-sleepy one, since sleeping with a laxative is harmful! But seriously, the Strategic Rocket Forces and Air Defense are about - very good preparations for all diseases! Even from pubic lice! And ENTs and Urologists in the EU found a job for themselves, and moreover, for a long time!
    2. sgazeev
      sgazeev 9 August 2014 20: 05
      0
      Quote: Buran
      “These actions were so dangerous that the crew decided to stop fulfilling the mission. The official with whom I spoke declared that such a close flight had put the lives of American pilots at risk. ”

      Do they really think that the health of their pilots somehow makes us feel better? Although, most likely, Russian air defense is the best laxative for US aviation. McCain knows for sure, he has enuresis after Vietnam, so far.

      Would lean back earlier, enuresis would not torment. am
  24. bmv04636
    bmv04636 9 August 2014 13: 42
    +5
    they say when a bear flies, even the sonars of submarines hear it
    1. zanoza
      zanoza 9 August 2014 13: 48
      +9
      When the "bears" take off from the airfields of Chukotka, in Alaska the dogs begin to howl ... laughing
    2. VadimL
      VadimL 9 August 2014 13: 52
      +2
      When their "Poseidon" flies, you can also hear it.
    3. wanderer_032
      wanderer_032 9 August 2014 13: 55
      +4
      Quote: bmv04636
      they say when a bear flies, even the sonars of submarines hear it


      From childhood, remember the joke about the bird ... laughing

    4. xana usa
      xana usa 9 August 2014 17: 36
      +1
      and the whole grouping of the United States air defense to go change diapers here and on the pots and you need to cover them with a blanket so that they would not cry at night
  25. wanderer_032
    wanderer_032 9 August 2014 13: 46
    +3
    Last news:

    Strelkov: Donetsk was completely surrounded.
    12:20 09.08.2014 Moscow time.

    DONETSK, 9 Aug - RIA News. On Saturday morning, Ukrainian security forces captured the city of Krasny Luch in the Luhansk region, as a result, Donetsk and Gorlovka were surrounded, the militia headquarters told RIA Novosti.

    The city of Krasny Luch is located on the highway from Donetsk towards the Luhansk region and Russia.

    The situation in Donetsk.

    "The Cossacks traditionally fled - only a small detachment of them is kept in the city. What I have repeatedly warned about has happened. The Donetsk-Horlivka group of troops of Novorossia is completely surrounded," one of his assistants quoted militia commander Igor Strelkov as saying for RIA Novosti.

    Source: http: //ria.ru/world/20140809/1019393481.html
    1. pg4
      pg4 9 August 2014 13: 57
      +3
      At the "Russian Spring" many simply refused to believe, they thought it was stuffing.

      In addition with icorpus
      The enemy is also occupied by the villages of Vakhrushevo, Khrustalnoye and Bokovo-Platovo

      Our units counterattack the enemy from the south, in the Novopetrovsky area and fight with units of the National Guard and the Polish PMC defending in this area
      1. wanderer_032
        wanderer_032 9 August 2014 14: 18
        +3
        Quote: pg4
        At the "Russian Spring" many simply refused to believe, they thought it was stuffing.

        Quote: pg4
        On Saturday morning, Ukrainian security forces captured the city of Krasny Luch of the Luhansk region,


        So the enemy clamped them in pincers, from the north-west from the side of Debaltseve and from the south-east from the side of Kr.luch-Antratsit.
        And I have long assumed this too, through this rocky road that goes along the lines of Debaltseve, Fashchevka, Red Kut, Red Ray, Anthracite, Orekhovo and further to Russian territory, the junta can cut into separate parts of the Lugansk and Donetsk militia groups.
        In addition, along this road they will be able to centrally supply their forces for further operations to dissect the army of Novorossia into smaller groups, with the subsequent goal of blocking and destroying them.
        1. pg4
          pg4 9 August 2014 14: 37
          +1
          Quote: wanderer_032
          So the enemy clamped them in pincers, from the north-west from the side of Debaltseve and from the south-east from the side of Kr.luch-Antratsit.
          And I have long assumed this too, through this rocky road that goes along the lines of Debaltseve, Fashchevka, Red Kut, Red Ray, Anthracite, Orekhovo and further to Russian territory, the junta can cut into separate parts of the Lugansk and Donetsk militia groups.
          In addition, along this road they will be able to centrally supply their forces for further operations to dissect the army of Novorossia into smaller groups, with the subsequent goal of blocking and destroying them.


          The last hope for the freed forces and captured equipment from the southern boiler. Although they write that Saur-Grave is bombed so that for a while the militia had to retreat.
      2. Spnsr
        Spnsr 9 August 2014 17: 15
        0
        Militia report: in Krasniy Luch, the enemy didn’t go beyond 160 mines, reinforcements are coming to the city | Russian spring

        Overview of the combat situation from the militia Prokhorov, August 9, 2014 14:30 p.m. (Moscow time).

        Punishers at 5 in the morning fired at Donetsk using artillery and Grad.

        At 6 am, artillery strikes began in the city of Krasnyi Luch.

        In the Boko-Platonovo region of Anthracite, the Ukrainians launched a missile and bomb strike.

        Around 8:50 Moscow time. again began to shell Pervomaisk and Irmino.

        Regarding Mr. Krasny Luch: in fact, the enemy did not go beyond 160 mines, and reinforcements are coming into the city. In addition to communications there is now no gas, light, water. An air strike was launched around the city and shelling from an artel. It’s really difficult there.

        By the way, about the “capture” of ukram Saur-Graves - ukrov has another epic fail (failure). This is already visible to everyone.
        http://rusvesna.su/news/1407581457
        Quote: pg4
        At the "Russian Spring" many simply refused to believe, they thought it was stuffing.

        In addition with icorpus
        The enemy is also occupied by the villages of Vakhrushevo, Khrustalnoye and Bokovo-Platovo

        Our units counterattack the enemy from the south, in the Novopetrovsky area and fight with units of the National Guard and the Polish PMC defending in this area
    2. Rostovchanin
      Rostovchanin 9 August 2014 14: 11
      +1
      “The Cossacks traditionally fled - only a small detachment of them is kept in the city.

      Well, what kind of Cossacks are these ??? Kozitsin never inspired confidence in me ...
      1. sgazeev
        sgazeev 9 August 2014 20: 08
        -1
        Quote: Rostovchanin
        “The Cossacks traditionally fled - only a small detachment of them is kept in the city.

        Well, what kind of Cossacks are these ??? Kozitsin never inspired confidence in me ...

        Mummers, ahead when you have to shout "Lyubo".
    3. cap54
      cap54 9 August 2014 14: 23
      +2
      Quote: wanderer_032
      Cossacks traditionally fled

      Obos. They were proudly named "KAZAK" !!! They have no right to be called that !!!
      1. wanderer_032
        wanderer_032 9 August 2014 15: 08
        +3
        I would not be in a hurry to throw stones, the information from the database zone is extremely scarce, and often contradictory.
        Perhaps there was a massive attack (aircraft, artillery, armor), and the militias have been short of ammunition lately.
        So wait until the squad is mixed with shit?
        Those. is it useless to die heroically?
        There is such a concept as tactical departure in order to mislead the enemy.
        And then when he relaxes, attack him from the flanks and rear (from ambushes).
      2. To think
        To think 10 August 2014 14: 28
        +2
        cap54 sgazeev Rostovchanin
        you three couch warriors, before you drive the Cossacks, you would figure out what and how !!! one idiot blundered, while others picked up (heard a ringing and do not know where he is)!
        Cossacks have always fought without sparing themselves, including for such oh, s, l, oh, like you !!!
    4. navara399
      navara399 9 August 2014 15: 13
      0
      These clowns are Cossacks as always on top ...
      1. bmv04636
        bmv04636 9 August 2014 16: 05
        +5
        already refute
        Despite the fact that the Russian media circulated a message about the capture of the Red Beam by Ukrainians, militia units continue to hold this settlement in their hands. At about one in the afternoon, the new Prime Minister of the DPR, Alexander Vladimirovich Zakharchenko, announced this.
        According to him, the former commander-in-chief of the DPR troops, Igor Strelkov, once again succumbed to panic and trumpeted the whole world about the hopeless situation of the troops entrusted to him.
        Remain in the Red Ray and the Cossacks. In fact, they didn’t run wherever, but retreated for regrouping and subsequent counterattack, as a result of which the stunned ukrovoyaki retreated, abandoning equipment and the wounded. The enemy did not go further than 160 mines, and reinforcements were coming into the city. In addition to communications there is now no gas, light, water. Around the city struck airstrike. The situation, of course, remains tense, but this is not a reason for panic.
        At night, artillery units of the DPR militias north of the settlement of Panteleymonovka destroyed a large enemy column.
        This morning the enemy launched an attack on Ilovaisk. Thanks to the measures taken in advance, the enemy convoy, which advanced in the Dobropillya region, was attacked at the time of deployment and completely defeated. The enemy suffered huge losses in manpower and equipment. There are no losses from our side.
        In addition, 12 Belarusian Nazis from the Chase unit were destroyed near Donetsk in the Yelenovka area as a result of effective militant fire strikes at the positions of the punishers of the Kiev junta. In the same place, in Elenovka, the DNI artillery destroyed more than ten units of military equipment of the enemy.
    5. creep: b
      creep: b 9 August 2014 15: 43
      -4
      The Shooters are preparing a campaign for the heroic retreat from the surrounded Donetsk with such messages (as Kurginyan said!): / If the southern boilers are liquidated, if a bunch of equipment is left, will the released forces not beat out the ukrov that burst into these villages? Bezler, Khodakovsky, Bolotov, Mozgovoy whining that the situation is awful? As an example, one comment on the reports from Bezler (words are not mine): Bezler simply does not know that his situation is very very poor. He is not a reenactor, how did he know that. He does not even realize that there is no technology and around the domination of the Ukrainian army. Fighting themselves in ignorance, clearing out roadblocks (and, by the way, 6-7 tanks on them! Reconstructor will not lie!).
      I think this is a real sabotage of the great plan of the rector. Someone, throw him a link to some antiques, let him be enlightened.

      By the way, again on the weekend the situation is heating up as scheduled. . what is it for?
  26. Finches
    Finches 9 August 2014 13: 47
    +3
    The presence on the globe of a country such as the United States is a constant tension in this world!
    1. Oprychnyk
      Oprychnyk 9 August 2014 14: 14
      +4
      "Russian planes were spotted by the US military in the skies over California back in May this year."

      If it were, there would already be a war!
  27. Barakuda
    Barakuda 9 August 2014 13: 48
    +3
    Something like mattresses should spend a day
  28. snifer
    snifer 9 August 2014 13: 52
    +2
    our strategists are handsome good fear adversary Yes
    1. andrei332809
      andrei332809 9 August 2014 14: 20
      +7
      Quote: snifer
      our strategists are handsome

  29. iiggi
    iiggi 9 August 2014 13: 53
    +1
    This is both with sanctions, they can, we can not, and with the army.
    That's right, it's time to show your teeth)))
  30. igor1981
    igor1981 9 August 2014 13: 54
    +7
    Russia is not a country that would report to every scumbag where it flies.
  31. andrei332809
    andrei332809 9 August 2014 13: 54
    +1
    "Russia's actions in Ukraine and Crimea have a direct impact on the Asia-Pacific region."

    apparently, they have a syshya globe in all offices, and not just Jenka’s
  32. Bubyr
    Bubyr 9 August 2014 13: 56
    +1
    "the activity of the Russian Air Force leads to the escalation of international tension" why ?! I do not understand request
    1. K-50
      K-50 9 August 2014 16: 24
      +2
      Quote: Bubyr
      "the activity of the Russian Air Force leads to the escalation of international tension" why ?! I do not understand request

      Well, how else is it "tactful" to admit that it is scary to wet diapers and not to lose the reputation of the coolest guys? laughing
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  34. v245721
    v245721 9 August 2014 13: 58
    +4
    pay less attention. enough already !!!!! to do what is beneficial to Russia.
  35. Pro100Igor
    Pro100Igor 9 August 2014 14: 00
    +16
    What shy steel. lol
  36. Jarserge
    Jarserge 9 August 2014 14: 01
    +7
    Why does the Russian government, unlike the Department of State, not make noise in the media after every NATO flight by its borders? After all, this is the same information war, because this is the image ...
    1. RUSLAT
      RUSLAT 9 August 2014 14: 22
      +4
      Because you have to make noise all the time! Itself was present at the border post when a NATO helicopter flew over a neutral strip at an altitude of 50 meters. Border guards confirmed that there was an order in case of crossing the border to immediately open fire to kill ...... And such flights over the neutral several times every day!
  37. SeAl2014
    SeAl2014 9 August 2014 14: 03
    +2
    That's right, they should be afraid.
    They have such a psychology. Respect and fear only the strong.
    1. tol100v
      tol100v 9 August 2014 14: 51
      0
      Quote: SeAl2014
      Respect and fear only the strong.

      And the nerves will be stronger!
  38. Barakuda
    Barakuda 9 August 2014 14: 06
    +10
    I went to school to the roar of TU-95 and MiGs, then I got used to it, I continued to study to the hum of ANs and Sushek, romance ... And it all started with "parsing" the IL-18 in childhood, in Kramatorsk - like a monument was. And then they taught us how to shoot down planes.
    1. Naval
      Naval 9 August 2014 19: 45
      +2
      Let me correct you, IL-18 in Kramatorsk was planned for a children's cinema. I myself managed to climb in it hi
      1. Bayonet
        Bayonet 9 August 2014 22: 04
        0
        Quote: Naval
        Let me correct you, IL-18 in Kramatorsk was planned for a children's cinema

        In Rostov-on-Don, a children's movie theater was also in An-10, in the Western microdistrict - but not for long. Looted, fucked up (in the full sense) and set up a fire. After that I went for scrap. That's how we relate to the monuments of technology! Barakuda, probably also spoiled the IL-18?
  39. Grigorievich
    Grigorievich 9 August 2014 14: 07
    +2
    the "bear" were scared, but he hasn't shown his teeth yet.
    1. Barakuda
      Barakuda 9 August 2014 14: 26
      +5
      And why show them, everything will turn out if you open the hatch in which the drum is 6 winged. and GSh in the tail, in which case cut any F-15-16-18 in half. The main thing is that if the shooter didn’t thump, he was very bored there.
      1. tol100v
        tol100v 9 August 2014 14: 54
        +5
        In the tail, besides GS, there is WHAT SOMETHING!
      2. wanderer_032
        wanderer_032 9 August 2014 15: 23
        +3
        Quote: Barracuda
        and GSh in the tail, in which case cut any F-15-16-18 in half

        I doubt that the Yankees will now reach the 60th in the yard under the fire of the General Staff, they will attack with missiles from far away.
        Here is all the hope for fighter cover.
  40. faterdom
    faterdom 9 August 2014 14: 08
    +5
    "Atomic bombers" - rather a term for Psaki to scare the American layman.
    In general, such types of weapons that have a nuclear power plant to provide a propulsion device deserve such a term.
    And the fact that these strategic aerial missile carriers can be the carrier of nuclear weapons is for clarity and imagery to the western layman, according to the plan of our exercises ...
    He smiled, the life of the American pilot was in danger! Well, damn it, the highest value that we only have to think about ...
  41. kind
    kind 9 August 2014 14: 09
    +5
    Su-27 flew literally in front of the nose of an American aircraft, demonstrating to the pilot the lower part of its fuselage with military missiles. The maneuver was so close to the spy (about 30 m) that it fell into the swirl zone formed by a jet of fighter jet engines.
    “These actions were so dangerous that the crew decided to stop the mission.

    Mattress makers have a direct tendency, the sailors of the Donald Cook fell into hysteria when their Su-24 flew around, now the pilots have done it. In my opinion, they only fight with unarmed people a lot, and when they meet an armed enemy, they lose heart, because they can die.
    By the way, praised pros from mercenaries, not so pros. The conflict in the Donbass has confirmed this.
    1. cap54
      cap54 9 August 2014 14: 30
      +2
      Quote: Good
      the sailors of "Donald Cook" went into hysteria when their ship, our Su-24, flew 12 times

      And then they all the electronics died from our hibiny ... Upon arrival at the home port, most of you, as you all remember, wrote a letter of resignation - AFRAID, piss - means respected !!!
      1. wanderer_032
        wanderer_032 9 August 2014 15: 25
        +1
        Quote: cap54
        piss means


        Stsut means stsut. Life is more expensive.
      2. Bayonet
        Bayonet 9 August 2014 22: 08
        +1
        Quote: cap54
        . Upon arrival at the port of registry, most of you, as you all remember, wrote a letter of resignation - AFRAID, piss - it means respected !!!

        Not tired of repeating any crap? Fiction is - everyone already knows!
  42. Signal
    Signal 9 August 2014 14: 09
    +7
    In the meantime

    “The Red Ray is captured by the enemy. Cossacks traditionally fled - only a small detachment is kept in the city. Something I repeatedly warned of happened. The Donetsk-Gorlovka group of forces of New Russia is completely surrounded.

    Nothing strange. The Red Beam WAS in the zone of responsibility of the LPR group. And he defended himself with the “heroes of the revived Cossacks. Ataman Kozitsin. " And they must not die - “the Cossack family cannot translate!” They are waiting for new great achievements!

    The brilliant military way of the Cossacks in Donetsk land was marked by such epoch-making successes as the surrender of Red Estuary in one day, surrender without a fight to Popasna, surrender to Debaltseve, surrender without a fight to Faschevka ... Now the Red Beam has added to the list. Hooray! We will wait for new achievements ... "

    http://rusvesna.su/news/1407571864

    The war in New Russia is slipping into guerrilla warfare. I believe that within a month there will remain 2 islands of resistance - Donetsk and Lugansk. And then they will fall, because they are simply razed to the ground. Without broad support from Russia, there is no chance.
    1. RUSLAT
      RUSLAT 9 August 2014 14: 35
      +3
      On the contrary. The junta once again repeats its mistake, throws mechanized groups into a deep breakthrough. Forgetting about supply. Shooter leaves from frontal battles and hits the invaders in parts at the transitions and rest. But first of all, the supply is destroyed, a tank without fuel and ammunition is a heap of metal. Remember the story of how the militia caught an armored personnel carrier in which the ammunition ended and he surrendered when the fuel ran out!
      1. Russ69
        Russ69 9 August 2014 14: 45
        +9
        Quote: RUSLAT
        . But first of all, the supply is destroyed, a tank without fuel and ammunition is a bunch of metal

        Ah, Strelkov’s goryuchka and BC probably doesn’t end?
        1. RUSLAT
          RUSLAT 9 August 2014 16: 20
          +2
          They have the junta for "supply." And the militia have much less equipment ... And the "neighbors" help, not without it ....
    2. tol100v
      tol100v 9 August 2014 14: 57
      +5
      Quiet glanders here can no longer cope! OR YES or NO!
    3. wanderer_032
      wanderer_032 9 August 2014 15: 44
      +3
      Quote: Signal
      The war in New Russia is slipping into guerrilla warfare. I believe that within a month there will remain 2 islands of resistance - Donetsk and Lugansk. And then they will fall, because they are simply razed to the ground. Without broad support from Russia, there is no chance.


      Let's not rush to conclusions.
      In the Donbass, you can partisan for a very long time, if you seriously approach the matter.
      And what will the junta give to the seizure of cities, actually speaking militarily?
      I can say for sure that almost nothing but hemorrhoids, they will need to be controlled.
      Donbass, after all, is a hilly and flat terrain.
      This is not a mountainous or wooded area, in which it occupied important roads or passes and sit on the ceiling, spit and shoot while trying to attack.
      There are spaces for maneuver in bulk.
  43. rasputin17
    rasputin17 9 August 2014 14: 12
    +4
    “These actions were so dangerous that the crew decided to stop the mission. The official with whom I spoke stated that such a close span endangered the lives of American pilots, "

    Nothing to hang around anywhere !! Nobody called them there !! Let them eat your diapers !!
  44. cap54
    cap54 9 August 2014 14: 13
    +4
    For the second time in the last two months, atomic bombers of the Russian Air Force, accompanied by fighters, found themselves in close proximity to the airspace of the United States and Canada, which forced the Americans to take interceptor aircraft into the air, RT reports citing USA Today newspaper.

    Why can they react in such a way to a threat from outside, and we can’t activate our troops near the border with Ukraine? Illogical !!!
    1. Iline
      Iline 9 August 2014 14: 21
      +3
      After the aggravation of the crisis in Ukraine, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu announced an unprecedented increase in the activity of the US and NATO armies near the Russian borders. He drew attention to the increase in the number of aircraft and American troops in Poland and the Baltic States, as well as an increase in the number of NATO warships in the Black Sea.

      Like they can, but we can not? And then the stink is heard from the trenches?
      Respect for the Seryshev brothers, continue to keep Amers energized.
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  45. Yugra
    Yugra 9 August 2014 14: 14
    +5
    Let them do it in their pants, watching our planes. Anytime, anywhere
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  47. djtyysq
    djtyysq 9 August 2014 14: 16
    +10
    Your warships enter the Black Sea; you surround our borders with NATO forces. you make Ukraine the next base, and we must remain silent, like the west. who is standing in front of you taking off his pants? ADMINISTS, BANTE ME! Fuck you USA
    1. Black
      Black 9 August 2014 14: 36
      +5
      Quote: djtyysq
      before you taking off your pants? ADMINISTS, BANTE ME



      ..bant me! - banthe !!! still! still!

      And you, sir, an entertainer !!!
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 9 August 2014 14: 48
        +4
        Quote: Chen
        ..bant me! - banthe !!! still! still!

        Reminded the video:
      2. djtyysq
        djtyysq 9 August 2014 15: 06
        +2
        Quote: Chen
        Quote: djtyysq
        before you taking off your pants? ADMINISTS, BANTE ME



        ..bant me! - banthe !!! still! still!

        And you, sir, an entertainer !!!



        Look for zateynikov among "your" marshals! I wrote: "YOU US!" For this, let them ban, and not erase what has been said. Yours faithfully!
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  48. RUSLAT
    RUSLAT 9 August 2014 14: 18
    +4
    Strelkov perfectly mastered Kutuzov’s tactics, lured into his territory and beat in parts, using partisans and DRG. The junta once again stepping on a rake. So the militias still brought equipment and weapons from Kiev ......
    1. tol100v
      tol100v 9 August 2014 15: 02
      +4
      Quote: RUSLAT
      Strelkov perfectly mastered the tactics of Kutuzov

      Tactics, tactics, but it’s shitty there, and the fact that they climbed into the next boiler, they got a yellow-block flag in their hands!
  49. Gray 43
    Gray 43 9 August 2014 14: 22
    +2
    Even if ours didn’t fly, they would still be worried, suddenly we’re planning something, manufacturers of diapers will think about expanding sales for the mattress
  50. Fuzeler
    Fuzeler 9 August 2014 14: 24
    +6
    Uh-huh, the flight of Russian strategic bombers leads to escalation of tension, and the US Navy missile cruiser with more than a hundred Tomahawks on board, so just went fishing in the Black Sea .......
    1. djtyysq
      djtyysq 9 August 2014 14: 34
      +1
      Quote: Fuzeler
      Uh-huh, the flight of Russian strategic bombers leads to escalation of tension, and the US Navy missile cruiser with more than a hundred Tomahawks on board, so just went fishing in the Black Sea .......


      100+! See above!
    2. fif21
      fif21 9 August 2014 14: 45
      +2
      Quote: Fuzeler
      Uh-huh, the flight of Russian strategic bombers leads to escalation of tension, and the US Navy missile cruiser with more than a hundred Tomahawks on board, so just went fishing in the Black Sea .......
      They still do not know about eyeliner, naive American youths. Let them learn the Russian language especially the words: surrender, do not shoot, Negro kaput, etc.
      1. Fuzeler
        Fuzeler 9 August 2014 15: 01
        +3
        Not so, from the experience of the "Battle of England", when the Angians frightened German pilots on the radio with "English lessons", but I will paraphrase, but with "Russian lessons" for the Americans:
        "I am drowning. He is drowning. We are drowning")))
      2. tol100v
        tol100v 9 August 2014 15: 07
        +1
        Even the fastest language course, IM won't help anymore! Diarrhea is faster. There’s no time for conversations!
    3. tol100v
      tol100v 9 August 2014 15: 03
      +2
      Will catch the BASTION! And so forth. Black Sea fish in the pond of KChF!