Poroshenko met NATO Secretary General and awarded "for peace and freedom"

In Kiev, there is a meeting between the “president” Petro Poroshenko and NATO Secretary General Rasmussen. It is reported by the news agency Interfax-Ukraine. At the meeting, Poroshenko said that he hoped for the development of cooperation between Ukraine and the North Atlantic Alliance. It would be strange if Poroshenko did not say such words, because it was to turn Ukraine into one more vassal of the United States by drawing in NATO and Poroshenko was seated in his current chair.

It is reported that Poroshenko awarded Rasmussen with the highest award provided in Ukraine for citizens (subjects) of foreign countries. We are talking about the Order of Freedom. Poroshenko, handing this award to the military bloc’s general secretary, said that Rasmussen’s visit to Kiev was evidence of NATO’s support for peace in Ukraine and its sovereignty. This phrase of the Ukropresident once again confirms that scenes from the theater of the absurd unfold in Ukraine. The peace in Ukraine and the military bloc, which has turned a number of quite prosperous states into ruins and sowed many years of chaos in them, is an amazing combination.

The main topic of conversation between Rasmussen and Poroshenko was the “Russian aggression”. That is how the topic is covered in the press service of the leader of the Kiev junta. Another topic arising from the first one is preparation for the meeting of the Ukraine-NATO Special Commission, which is to be held in Wales within the framework of the next NATO gathering.

Comments

[Student]

It's time for us to introduce our sanctions "460")) We buy only goods whose barcode begins with 46. And all the rest at our own discretion)) and under our own sanctions)))
Code Country
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383 Slovenia
385 Croatia
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471 Taiwan
474 Estonia
475- Latvia
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477 Lithuania
478- Uzbekistan
479-- Sri Lanka
480 Philippines
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487 Kazakhstan
489 Hong Kong
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[Vitaly Anisimov]

Poroshenko awarded Rasmussen the highest award provided in Ukraine for citizens (citizens) of foreign countries. It's about the Order of Liberty

Fell under the table in hysterics ...

[Caa]

And there was no evidence of Russia's "aggression" against ukropostan, and it never will. Two Russophobe puppets met, got worn out, tugged at each other by the pipis and dispersed.

[yushch]

Quote: caa

And there was no evidence of Russia's "aggression" against ukropostan, and it never will. Two Russophobe puppets met, got worn out, tugged at each other by the pipis and dispersed.

In addition to these common features, they are connected by the main hobby in life, both concrete Bukhara.
So to say, soul mates met. =)

[Stalker]

Poroshenko met NATO Secretary General and awarded "for peace and freedom"

Secretary General modestly left an aspen stake in the hallway ... Just in case, so as not to drive the plane again in the fall .....

[Rostov]

Quote: Stalker

Poroshenko met NATO Secretary General

We will meet Natya too

[Rostov]

And just that such news appeared


150 Ukrainian soldiers who previously crossed over to Russian territory were asked to join the DNI militia. This was announced by the new Prime Minister of the Republic of Alexander Zakharchenko. He also added that the militia forces managed to capture 18 Grad’s SZOs surrounded by the Ukrainian military, as well as many tanks and armored personnel carriers.
07 August 2014, 20: 41
“They asked for our army because they see our attitude - it is more noble than their command,” RIA Novosti quoted Zakharchenko as saying.

Recall that on the night of Monday, August 4, more than 400 Ukrainian soldiers crossed into the territory of the Rostov Region. Most of the servicemen returned to Ukraine, about 50 people remain in a specially developed tent camp for them.



Original article: http://russian.rt.com/article/44372#ixzz39jEJhd11

[I do not care]

“Is Russian chocolate worse than imported chocolate?” What about beer? I’m not talking about vodka. ” Borya Yeltsin President of Poland Komorowski (tearfully): Gentlemen, gentlemen, we are not passing by, we are buying apples! Fresh, red-faced ... Harvest this year ... Buy! Behind the scene is noise, screams, the crash of a falling body. The postman Pechkin breaks in a maniac coat and visor. Pechkin: Everyone stand! The “Russian Post” works (to Lukashenko): Will you be Comorian? Lukashenko: That god pardoned ... There he sells apples. Pechkin: In short, a merchant ... You have a package from Moscow, from Putin. Now slowly lower your hands and sign ... Komorowski: I knew! I knew that the hated Putin is chilling! Weak! He will still experience Polish anger! He will tidy himself up with an apology, and I told him this: On your knees, stink! (breaks the packaging) He probably sent the money ... if less than a billion, I won’t take it! What is this (he turns the brochure in his hands, perplexedly, reads) “One Hundred and One Dishes from Apples” ... I don’t understand anything ... And what’s this enclosed? Probably a check ... So ... An air ticket to Smolensk with an open date! Uterus Boska! OK! Pig! (tramples on the brochure) Lavrov: Oh! Come on, Komarik! Above! Hto does not jump that ... Hto does not jump that b! Lukashenko: Why is this Polish mug hysterical? Lavrov: Apple saved from him. Lukashenko: He is a Catholic. Lavrov: Yes, even a pagan, the harvest of apples disappears, it is necessary to save, so it turns out “saved”. Lukashenko: What is wrong with the harvest? Lavrov: We refused to buy fruit from them ... because of the moth ... Lukashenko: Because of this, or what? (points to Obama eating the banana) Lavrov: Well, you could say that ... because of her! Obama (offended): What a codling moth! Jane, introduce me! Psaki: Chef, I represent you under the hot African sun, with a banana on the palm ... Obama (angrily): Jane, that’s how Putin and Lavrov represent me ... Lukashenko: From durra-baba, I spoiled the whole presentation of Mowgli! Lavrov: Let me try ... Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you the Nobel Peace Prize laureate who unleashed three wars, the most popular politician, according to Vecherny magazine, Barack Huseynovich Oh-oh-obama ... Poroshenko: Don’t listen to you! Love you all! In gratitude, on behalf of the grateful Ukrainian people, let me hand you dear Baran ... Obama: I know, I know, bread, and salt ... Poroshenko: Noo-and-and-that, bread and salt of Havanin. Our symbol is fried tires with a Molotov cocktail. To the harrowing sounds of the Ukrainian anthem, the stage’s garnas with fried tires go onto the stage. Lukashenko: Well, what kind of music, some kind of sad ... someone died? Lavrov: What are you, comrade, on the contrary, haven’t died yet! On this occasion, Svidomo and spin ... Lukashenko (licking his lips): I am embarrassed to ask why the ladies are without underwear? Lavrov: A new trend, in the framework of the action: “Do not give Russian” ... Naughty ... Why Psaka in one shoe, which is not interesting? Lukashenko (looking at Psaku): Ghm ... Really in one ... And why? Also some kind of action? Lavrov: Role-playing games, comrade! Cinderella, ran away from the bastard, pulled her leg, slipper lost ... Zhirinovsky: Howo! I have long said that in the end, someone pulls her legs! If he catches up, of course! This time, it seems, they still did not catch up! (referring to Poroshenko) By the way, malacholny ... I was sent a summons to the police for interrogation, okay, Zyuganov, in principle, not in vain, he should go long ago, why did you call Shoigu? Poroshenko: Shaw, will he fly in? Zhirinovsky: Your happiness, if it does not arrive! What if he flies in on a strategic bomber? Six months later, you will remove your homosexual Avakov from the rubble! But in general, it is not clear what you are doing, then? As it turned out, you don’t have any shale! Lukashenko: And what is shale? Zhirinovsky: Slippers are such, they are also called Vietnamese.

[alauda1038]

you cartoon for the internet would be a hit the script will be ready

[..Dmitry..]

ATP, neighing, to tears

[Stalker]

Thank you !!!! Have fun !!!!!

[old man 72]

Thank!!! Very humorous! Neighing with pleasure!

[OlegSp]

[phone]! Thank! Rrrzhak!

[I do not care]

Zhirinovsky: In fact, they lack brains, however, slippers, probably too. Shang: We are immediately ready to supply any necessary number of slippers to friendly Kiev. Zhirinovsky: just see that white are. Shang: Why exactly the whites? Zhirinovsky: Because winter is coming, and I feel that in winter in Kiev white slippers will go like hot cakes. Poroshenko: Garny Vietnamese lads mentally insane ... Shang: Excuse me, what is he doing sincerely? Zhirinovsky: In principle, sincerely he is doing everything! It bombes the city, drinks a vodka, licks a monkey's ass, and in this case it tries to throw you ... Everything is sincere. Yatsenyuk (in a furious whisper of Poroshenko): Are you crazy, Jutik? Why do we need slippers? Poroshenko: Why not take it for free? Yatsenyuk: What do you think, they will not require payment? Poroshenko: What do you think, will we pay them? Both neigh loudly ... Obama: Gentlemen, a moment of attention! We are not going to trade apples ... and not slippers ... Lavrov (in an undertone): It’s not surprising who has what, he sells those ... Who doesn’t have anything (look at Poroshenko), sells a bread-box ... Dialectics ... Obama: By the way, Lavrov, tell me, why is your bloody Mordorian regime going to sell Iranian oil? Don't you know that sanctions have been imposed on Iran? Lavrov: And in relation to us, let me ask, what is introduced? We have sanctions, they have sanctions, minus minus, it gives plus ... Obama: Okay, an unsuccessful example, on the other hand I’ll come in: Are you sure that Iran will not enrich uranium? Lavrov: We are sure that Iran will not enrich the Tan, and we will no longer enrich the Kuev kingdom. Sanctions, they are so ... Speaking of sanctions: gentlemen, I almost forgot! Vladimir Vladimirovich, asked to congratulate dear Angela Dorothea Merkel on her birthday ... Allow, on behalf of, so to speak, on behalf of ... (holds out a voluminous bundle wrapped in shiny packaging) Merkel: What is this? Lavrov: Valenoks, of course. Merkel: Why do I need felt boots? Lavrov: Well, given that from now on, European airlines will fly to Asia through the North Pole, I think it will come in handy ... Feel like polar explorers ... Yes, don’t be so sad! Look, Latvia, it’s not worrying ... I’ll slowly prepare for sprats I’ll save! Alexander Perlin

[Weniamin]

I apologize for my lack of education, and on the background of which memorial were filmed?

[Vasek]

Quote: Stalker

awarded "for peace and freedom"

For bread and water, and for freedom, thanks to our "Soviet" people!
V.Vysotsky

[RusDV]

It is time for us to reward him. The Order. With a spin on the back ...

[from punk]

Quote: caa

And there was no evidence of Russia's "aggression" against ukropostan, and it never will. Two Russophobe puppets met, got worn out, tugged at each other by the pipis and dispersed.

[GSH-18]

Mkarevichs apologize for Boeing shot down by Russia

Yeah .. Makaronych turned out to be a rare devil. And I respected him for his songs with hidden meaning during the Soviet era, and just for the songs of the "Machine of Time" group ...

[efimich41]

Makarevich, for his foul behavior, needs to be prohibited from speaking in public and in the media.

[Eltempo23rus]

it must be stripped of citizenship.

[ALABAY45]

Pancake! Beast! I crap all my youth! It's good that there was a stable psyche hardened in the USSR and hope for a better future ... We quoted you bitch in construction brigades! Oh, you are not a stupid "starling", he is still ...

[tomket]

Quote: ALABAY45

We quoted you in construction teams

So how? Understood now whose prayers and to whom they read? Probably the same was respected for the hidden meaning. And then ...... and then the country collapsed, because many quoted what even had no idea.

[tomket]

Quote: GSH-18

And I respected him for his songs with hidden meaning during the times of the USSR, and just for the songs of the "Time Machine" group.

You need to respect a person for what he openly expresses, what he thinks. And with hidden meanings, usually genuine people express their opinions. When Makarevich had the option of losing his skin for saying in the days of the USSR, he has hidden meanings. And now he knows that they are not touched, that the jackal has plundered, feeling that Sherkhan is standing behind him.

[OlegSp]

Yes, now no one is behind him ..... stupid oselevich.

[Slavich]

for the songs of the group "Time Machine" ...

I had a favorite band at school, and now I switch the radio in the car to another wave when I hear it. And at the same time he framed the entire "Time Machine" group. Something others are not so finished, or I don't know something.

[Vasek]

Quote: GSH-18

And I respected him for his songs with hidden meaning during the Soviet era, and just for the songs of the "Machine of Time"

And he is a mediocre musician.
As one composer friend of mine said:
"Plays well. Fast."

[..Dmitry..]

do not shoot the pianist - he plays as best he can))

[Sergey Medvedev]

Quote: GSH-18

Yeah .. Makaronych turned out to be a rare devil. And I respected him for his songs with hidden meaning during the Soviet era, and just for the songs of the "Machine of Time" group ...

Makarevich is clearly a deaf musician. He certainly hadn't heard the Time Machine songs. He sang, but did not hear. Bends ...

[sandrmur76]

Gesha agrees with you for 1000 percent. I would add something, but there would be some mats.

[supertiger21]

For me, Makarevich is no different from another litter of the west.

[Mason]

read the echo of Moscow, that's where the nursery is.

[AQUARIUS 65]

supertiger21

For me, Makarevich is no different from another litter of the west.

One freak with a false sad face
in the cabin of your Porsche
said: "I am ashamed to be called Russian,
we are a nation of mediocre drunks. "
A solid look, demeanor, -
everything devil is thought out cunningly,
but the merciless degeneration virus
I ingloriously stole everything inside him.
His soul is not worth a half
like a yellow leaf from broken branches
but the descendant of the Ethiopians PUSHKIN
not burdened by his Russianness.
They considered themselves Russian rightfully
and raised their homeland from their knees
creators of Russian seafaring glory
and BELINSHAUSEN and KRUZENSHTERN.
And not reconciling with a narrow worldview,
trying to look beyond the horizon
for honor they considered to be called Russian
the Scots GRAYG de TOLLY and LERMONT.
Any of them are admirable,
After all, to sing homeland is the law for them!
So he gave his life without regret
for Russia the Georgian prince BAGRATION.
Our language is multifaceted, accurate, faithful
then heals the soul, then smacks like steel,
are we able to value him immensely
and to know him, as the Dane Dahl knew.
What is DAL? And in our time a lot of
owning a great language?
no worse than crest MIKOLA GOGOL,
that was once with the PUSHKIN sign.
Do not bang your head on the wall
and furiously spit saliva in vain,
"We are Russians!" - Shevchenko said so,
read kobzar carefully.
In the soul love is filial cherished,
all my life I worked up to seven sweats
SUVOROV, EARS and MENDELEY,
KULIBIN, LOMONOSOV and POPF.
Their names remained on the tablets
like a true story of basics,
and among them, like a pillar, old DERZHAVIN,
in it the blood flows of the Tatar Murza.
They come, then servants, then messiahs,
Carrying your cross on bent shoulders
how he carried it in the name of all of Russia
Turkish descendant - Admiral KOLCHAK.
They instilled and nurtured love
from secular sources and roots:
that Russian whose soul lives in Russia,
whose thoughts are about mother - about her!
Patriotism does not sell to the load
to berets, boots or a coat,
and since you are ashamed to be called Russian,
you, my friend, are not Russian, you are NOBODY !!!

[Aandrewsir]

Good rhyme! That's right! But in my youth I listened to the songs of this ... creature. How it degraded! This is an example of what "excessive satiety and envy for even more satiety of neighbors" does to the poet and musician. On the chest there is an inscription "bastard", and on the back you need to get a tattoo ""!

[Weniamin]

How did it degrade!

And what did you want, my friend. Senility!

[tomket]

Find Makarevich’s mail with Shevchuk and send him such photos every day that the cattle could not fall asleep.

[ankh-andrej]

You can send it to the "Smak" program. From there will be transferred.

[..Dmitry..]

Now the transfer must be called - Srak-Psak

[Cadet787]

supertiger21
For me, Makarevich is no different from another litter of the West

I support, he, not a sailor.

[Deff]

Bl ... I, as if he had advised a parashenka, well, I thought sho bitch, but I didn’t think so sho)))

[Baloo]

I join in the apologies of Gordon. But does one Makar dishonor the country?

[ankh-andrej]

Shevchuk is also a musician.

[tomket]

Quote: Balu

I join in the apologies of Gordon.

By the way, I was just expecting any thoughts or apologies from Gordon, but it turned out that he was a really thinking person, and not an intelligent litter like Makarevich.

[ALABAY45]

The monkey loves the rooster, because he spurs the monkey ...
Fable ... remake ...

[Cadet787]

07.08.2014 - 18: 08
"The US is rapidly losing its level of ownership of the situation"

“The US is rapidly losing control over the situation | Russian spring
The editor-in-chief of the magazine “However,” Mikhail Leontyev, expressed his opinion on the Kiev junta and on the situation in the Donbass as a whole. “The junta doesn't give a damn about everything,” says Mikhail Leontyev. “They decided that they could do anything.” But I believe that, in the end, they will give up. They are led by America, and the level of planning and ownership of the situation in the United States is rapidly declining. And, therefore, the Kiev junta, which exists only at the expense of the Americans, will soon lose its influence.
I support the desire of Novorossia to protect itself, but I think that judging whether they will win or not is somewhat inhumane, because people are at war, they give their lives for their beliefs, and here we will sit in safety and talk about the outcome of the war. "

[Момент]

The monkey praises the rooster for praising the monkey.
Fable

[ty60]

cuckoo praises a rooster.I.A. Krylov

[Varyag_1973]

For CAA. "Guys, smile and wave, smile and wave!" The only proof of the non-interference of Russia in the affairs of Ukraine is the existence of Ukraine itself! Although in the light of recent events, this is a very controversial thesis, in terms of the existence of Ukraine, in my humble opinion, Ukraine ceased to exist long before the Maidan "made february 2014", it is a pity that the garnered, svidomo and wide-eyed people did not realize this!

PySy. On this topic, only one "thesis" suggests itself: "WHY IS ANY INFLATED GAN * D * HE IMAGES HIMSELF A DIRIGIBLE" ?! Dill is about you !!!

[zadorin1974]

Dear Varangian, you need to remember your thesis is said to the very essence

[1812 1945]

Poroshenko met NATO Secretary General and awarded "for peace and freedom" Keg of Vaseline.

[Slavich]

Two russophobe puppets met, battered, pulled each other by peeps, and dispersed.

They are not puppets, but stools. Because wooden. And there’s nothing to pull. Since morally castrated.

[Vasek]

Quote: caa

Two russophobe puppets met, battered, pulled each other by peeps, and dispersed.

But at the request, Parashenka asked the gene section:
"Can I clean your shoes again?"

[Severbob]

the executioner sees the executioner from afar

[stalfal]

At least I didn’t forget to hand over the medal in the form of a tornado rocket?

[zeleznijdorojnik]

This grandfather should be awarded the Order of Liberty, and not the Dutch ped:

[typhoon7]

By the way, in Marinka, the fighters of Donbass crushed the Azov battalion well, and the 72nd ICBM handed 60 units of equipment to the fighters of New Russia, only under such conditions they were allowed into Russia. It’s better for them not to return home yet, they will stopudovo under the press.

[INVESTOR]

Quote: typhoon7

By the way, in Marinka, the fighters of Donbass crushed the Azov battalion well, and the 72nd ICBM handed 60 units of equipment to the fighters of New Russia, only under such conditions they were allowed into Russia. It’s better for them not to return home yet, they will stopudovo under the press.

Where does the infa about technology ???

[potterz]

But what about the grandfather’s face?

[Peter Timofeev]

It is a pity for Ukraine, because Ukrainian politicians say that: "Ukraine has changed its orientation" and only Little Russia is against it.

[Sandov]

Quote: MIKHAN

Poroshenko awarded Rasmussen the highest award provided in Ukraine for citizens (citizens) of foreign countries. It's about the Order of Liberty

Fell under the table in hysterics ...

Potroshenko in his role. The fascists have always been distinguished by their meekness.

[Rus2012]

Quote: MIKHAN

Fell under the table

and meanwhile in kuev tanks !!!:)

Tanks entered Kiev. Stripping Maidan?

Source: http://politikus.ru/events/26320-v-kiev-vvedeny-tanki-zachistka-maydana.html

[lukke]

so I understood in the morning the dispersal of the Maidan was for the sake of rassmusen ?! so that the dude sees all the strength and power of the current government in the mighty paws of Viti Parashenko, who is not some kind of a chocolate bar, but in real life a supermacho and an alpha tryndec to everything in the world, beats everyone right and left: the separatists, the maydanut agents of the FSB, in short . In a word, the lord is non-fallow.

[Civil]

Maybe enough? There is a civil war between Ukrainians and Russians involved in it, maybe it’s time to think not with your head, but with simple phrases. Stop minus Ukrainians ?! Zelo is complicated! In the old fashioned way with vodka (vodka) sit and think. They will not forgive and forget, but a bad world is better than any war ????

[lukke]

maybe it's time not to think with your head, but in simple phrases

it's like?

[Spike]

It's too late ....

[..Dmitry..]

I wanted it earlier, I think - but, I'm afraid, now it’s not possible. the rubicon is over, you yourself will forgive the one who killed your mother, brother, sister, son?
Have you seen the movie "Come and See"?

I would like everyone to change their minds one fine moment and say "You can't live like that", but the millstones of the story have been launched

[tantalum]

Quote: Civil

maybe it's time not to think with your head, but in simple phrases

Klitschko is it you?

Quote: Civil

In the old fashioned way with vodka (vodka) sit and think. They will not forgive and forget

Who are you going to drink vodka with? With those who kill children? And do you expect forgiveness from them ???

[Juborg]

The leader of the Ukro-Salo tribe rewarded a white man from distant European lands with the gifts of his half-country. It's good that his bananas do not grow in the country.

[..Dmitry..]

could not resist - bananas grow in the head

[78bor1973]

Order of Freedom from what? From gas? From excess territories? From the truth? From conscience?

[Nina Zima]

* la, I thought the order of heaven would hang hundreds. here dill annealed ...

[Dad Sasha]

Poroshenko met NATO Secretary General and awarded "for peace and freedom"

and Ramussen responded by rewarding Piglet "for loyal service to the American people."

[supertiger21]

Another "peaceful solution" of Ukrainian and NATO colleagues to capture the DPR and LPR)))

[Interface]

1. Can I find out a list of goods made in Russia that match European quality?
Not to go to official events in Russian Ralf Ringer?

2. An interesting fact: we imposed sanctions on fruits and vegetables, helped the "farmers" (apparently Medvedev started a fashion for farming), but did not introduce them into the electronics industry? Does this mean that the notorious "farmers" need help more than a practically non-existent industry as such?

Or are we going to get by with single innovations of microchips, like Elbrus, WHO WILL GO ON DEFENSE ONLY?
Or junk called "Depot" (who does not know, I remind: these are Russian computers) will suddenly start to produce modern PCs by itself?

And the answer is the same: the Russian Federation will not live even 10 years without importing Euro-American technologies, because even if one middle-n-th microcircuit is produced in the United States, then sanctions will be imposed on it, as on equipment of "double value", and they don't make us like that.

That's why we impose sanctions against imported cheeses and tomatoes, and Euro-Americans - for industrial equipment.

But a self-sufficient industry in the market cannot be built. Because it is a market, not the State Planning Commission. IT IS NECESSARY TO START FROM SMALL, AND THE USER CHOOSES more ... and the best.

[dvina71]

Why not? Ralphs are no worse than German shoes .. The same salamanders. They look great and most importantly .. with my weight over 90 kg, the sole can withstand 2 seasons, and I go very energetically .. I went in for long-distance skiing. I focus on it))
And the skin .. There are no complaints even at our -30C.

[Interface]

And I didn’t say that it was bad.
Just what else do besides ralphs do in Russia?

Respectovskaya I fell apart after half a year. This despite the fact that I dressed her 3 times.
I didn’t go in the rain.

[semen777]

Interface (2) UA - you speak on behalf of the Russian, and the flag is Ukrainian ... like born in the USSR, and who are you really?

[ty60]

dill. in the 90s sold in Russia spare parts for agricultural machinery. Sandblasting.

[mivmim]

who are you in fact?

Yes, the rat is foreign.

[dvina71]

Scha .. I list .. an excellent Russian welding semiautomatic device, a welding inverter .. Ryazan., Drills, edging machines all Moscow, drills - Voronezh, Siberia .. I bought all this after operating imported equipment .. Welders .. without our options. Better in all respects. The rest is just not worse .. Let's say the edger has been working for me for about 5 years. In harsh conditions .. Profibosh stood there for two years ..
Clothing .. All of me is on me .. My height is 196, weight 94, size in shoulders 54. There is simply no imported takorgo .. Well, maybe jeans ..
I quietly travel abroad and especially from the inhabitants there are no different.

[poquello]

Quote: Interface

And I didn’t say that it was bad.
Just what else do besides ralphs do in Russia?

Respectovskaya I fell apart after half a year. This despite the fact that I dressed her 3 times.
I didn’t go in the rain.

Buy Argentine and do not mutter about Russian shoes and electronics. There are more demand in Russia than demand, especially snobs clinging to names will suffer. Apple has already been asked to disclose codes for Russian security services - it won’t open, it goes into the market without a certificate.
And the question should be asked correctly, not what they do, but how they buy - but they buy well in Russia. The bourgeoisie will take off, and they will not be able to create a deficit in Russia.

[MaxikyM]

Quote: Interface

And I didn’t say that it was bad.
Just what else do besides ralphs do in Russia?

Respectovskaya I fell apart after half a year. This despite the fact that I dressed her 3 times.
I didn’t go in the rain.

Well, you’re just like a little child, all at once ...

P.S. "No time for dragons ..."

[Sergey Medvedev]

Quote: Interface

But I didn’t say that it was bad. Just what else, besides ralphs, are they doing in the Russian Federation?

And there is no country in the world that does everything and is better than everyone. Russia, for example, makes weapons at the highest world level. So that no one would dig into us with Zionist nit-picking. Minuses to you and without me have thrown.

[Voevoda2682]

Twenty years ago, China, except for rice, tea and metal (which was smelted in the yards) didn’t produce anything, the union fell apart., We didn’t support China, the Americans and Europe all the time with China in contra. And where is China now, and Europe? The main thing is not to stay awake.

[GSH-18]

Quote: Interface

Can I find out a list of goods made in Russia that match European quality?

I’d be happy to answer your tart question, my dear.
The fact is that the European goods imported into my country in most cases did not meet their own European quality. While the new Russian (in particular) food production facilities are certified in the ISO system and others, and some also GOST, which is a very strict guarantor of the quality of food products. It so happened that at the dawn of the formation of the Russian Federation, it imported basic food products from the USA and Europe, then, as domestic retail chains grew, a foreign manufacturer was traditionally represented in them, which hindered the development of its own agro-industrial complex capacities. And now, thanks to the sanctions, we will eliminate this omission. Fortunately, 4 years ago, we adopted the "food doctrine" and today it has been generally implemented. Thanks to the sanctions! Now we (and not in Europe and America) will have new jobs!

[Interface]

I’d be happy to answer your tart question, my dear.

If there is nothing to say, this does not mean that "the question is sarcastic."

That means, dear ... that you have nothing to say.

The logic is simple.

new jobs will appear!

Both Europeans and Americans are creating jobs by building factories in Russia. The same Ford.
The only question is what will happen to the plant if the Africans prohibit the supply of any radiator grille, which we do not have.

[GSH-18]

Quote: Interface

If there is nothing to say, this does not mean that "the question is sarcastic"

I painted you here on the floor of a sheet, and you have nothing to tell me!

Quote: Interface

The only question is what will happen to the plant if the Africans prohibit the supply of any radiator grille, which we do not have.

Let it be the same as with the dill supplies for our defense industry, we will replace it with our own. In addition, in the Russian Federation, so that you know, the creation of imported full-cycle automobile plants, rather than assembly plants, was welcomed in advance (since you were talking about cars). So whoever managed to build one of the foreign manufacturers is the one in the Russian Federation on a horse. As he traded machines, so will he trade them. No one is going to curl up.

[Dali]

This "interface" that "spit in my eyes - white dew")))))))))))))))

In general, I read his comments - a typical five-column, trying with all his might to sow among us, despondency and unbelief. Acting on the principle: mix and match the truth ... and such a mixture is actually even worse than the Goebels box ...

[soviet skytourist]

you need to defend your market properly, fairy tale democracy for suckers, otherwise you will be a world cash cow and trash welding

[GRAY]

Quote: Interface

Both Europeans and Americans are creating jobs by building factories in Russia. The same Ford.

And what do they leave us for?

[Sandov]

Quote: Interface

The only question is what will happen to the plant if the Africans prohibit the supply of any radiator grille, which we do not have.

We will do it ourselves. Remember the movie "The Director". There were people. We shouldn't be worse than them.

[jPilot]

Dear, I’m reporting to you how a person who recently (before the whole catastrophe, managed in January) who visited the USA in Los Angeles was on retraining. So the American zhrachka is complete shit all dofig but everything is not tasty, just food for a full stomach. I ate in the dining room at the Robinson factory and in the cafe and even in the Chinese buffet, they have a type of Chinese buffet, like sea food but they were cooked in a simple dining room. This is about food. We go further clothes and here you will find a big American surprise there practically did not see: 50% at least CHINA the rest is Taiwan, Malaysia and other banana republics. Here are household appliances, tools, furniture, etc. etc. really American, but here another surprise is all that I saw there I didn’t even see close, that is, everything that they produce remains with them and you and our Europe will not get into hysterical with us. Cars are the same parsley, Fords are sunny, BUT there are completely different models, but there are a lot of Mercedes. But McDonald’s, this is soooo our Russian stomachs to poison and children to plant toys on it. So American sanctions are for the EU like we are what (false) fighters for justice. But industry needs to be raised and one of the counteractions to sanctions is steps to stimulate its own producer.

[soviet skytourist]

many people judge the world on the basis of what they’re persecuting on TV, and there’s one propaganda there. For example, in EU everyone lives on credit and is mostly rather modest.

[sem-yak]

But the VAZ has it all!

[77bob1973]

And not only Ford is next in line, Caterpillar, General Motors, the production of the Superjet is also in question.

[Interface]

at the dawn of the formation of the Russian Federation

Ohoho, this is a farting, sorry. Just like Russia is rising, it’s just not funny anymore.

"At dawn", is it when Yeltsin drank some vegetables with a stick while blindfolded, and this whole madhouse theater was filmed by the newly created ORT?

At the dawn of the Russian Empire, with Poltava and Gangut-- yes.

At the dawn of the USSR, with industrialization and the All-Union Agricultural Exhibition / VDNKh - THIS IS REALLY, "AT Dawn".

[GSH-18]

Quote: Interface

Ohoho, this is a farting, sorry. Just like Russia is rising, it’s just not funny anymore.

"At dawn",

I see that you are extremely contemptuous of the latest (and in general) history of the Russian Federation.
You need Makaronych, he will warmly support you.
And here people who believe in the future of Russia and love her gather and gather. All the best amigo.

[Interface]

recent (and in general) history of the Russian Federation.

Darling, the latest history began in the 1918 year. And the history of the Russian Federation is 20 years of inaction.
What happened before the Russian Federation is the history of the USSR and the Russian Empire. And the semi-colony of the Russian Federation does not pretend to it a bit and is not worthy of the greatness of its ancestors.

I see that you are extremely contemptuous of the latest (and in general) history of the Russian Federation.

And why love her? For the anti-Soviet 90's? For nagging on 1913 year with a lack of social guarantees? For Chechnya?

No, you say what kind of Sochi.

Take away 4 gold from the Russian team. Viktor An wasn’t in Russia and became a skater, and an American snowboarder got up in the USA. So count on what place the Russian Federation would trudge.

There is nothing to love her. All that has changed over the 23 of the year is the defeat of national science and industry and the filling of the Russian Federation with imports, which we apparently do not consider to be a threat to national security.

And you continue to scream from the minimum of completed tasks.
And I will continue to grieve over pro-ban Soviet apples on the moon.

[GRAY]

Quote: Interface

There is nothing to love her. All that has changed in 23 years is the defeat of national science and industry and the filling of the Russian Federation with imports,

You probably have something to compare

[GSH-18]

Quote: Interface

Darling, recent history began in 1918. And the history of the Russian Federation is 20 years of inaction

We are clearly talking about two different RFs. Are you from a parallel dimension?
I’m definitely not my friend.

[Interface]

That is, smart thoughts are over, ornate phrases like "what are you talking about", "what kind of reality are you in?"
Everything is clear with you. You do not see the facts point blank.

[GRAY]

Quote: Interface

Everything is clear with you. You do not see the facts point blank.

But from your words it turns out that since the beginning of the 90s nothing has changed at all.

[Interface]

Exactly. Only the entire deficit covered the import of goods.
That's all.

Fashionable clothes, Ibook, iPad, iPhone, Samsung and other good.

But what was built by the Soviet government was all "privatized".

Do you think the oligarchs have disappeared? As was Abramovich, so he stayed.
Rottenberg was-- stayed. Was Prokhorov? So he is.

But Berezovsky died, but Khodorkovsky sat down. Only this changes little. There was one owner of the Russian oil industry-- it became another. There was Khodor, and Sechin became.

NOTHING CHANGED, COMRADE.

[..Dmitry..]

Well, yes, we are blind, in your reality you have everything in a bundle, only to destroy Russia a little - and everything will be like clockwork.
20 years of idleness is yours, my dear. we have - yes, through thorns, not without it ... but there is movement, and if you were rummaged at school in Russia Mr. - well, go to the teacher - eat burgers, use tyblokfony ...

[Interface]

School Russia Mr.

Russian Federation, shit.
With a share of 2% in world science.

And the USSR with 25% is power.

Prove the opposite?

[Spnsr]

Quote: Interface

That is, smart thoughts are over, ornate phrases like "what are you talking about", "what kind of reality are you in?"
Everything is clear with you. You do not see the facts point blank.

Well, show the facts then!
aaaaaaa ..... I am afraid of course to assume: Putin is to blame?

[Interface]

Is Putin to blame?

This is all of course witty, but sad.

During the 18 of the post-war years, the USSR restored the national economy, resettled millions of people in apartments, launched the world's first atomic icebreaker, created the 1 ICBM and SLBM, sent a satellite, animal and human into space, had the lowest mortality rate in the world.


Does it not seem strange to you that the Russian Federation in 20 years has not surpassed the RSFSR for ANY ONE INDICATOR, except for the export of raw materials, imports and those that appeared after the collapse of the USSR?

Doesn’t it seem strange to you that false patriotism and jokes from Starikov’s subscribers are not appropriate in this case?

[Tima]

What are you hanging out on the forum, you have been waiting for a week in the Kiev military registration and enlistment office!

[Magamed]

Yes, he is about 12 years old, do not pay attention, you can see what you’re doing, worse if stoned.

[Interface]

You're a fool?
I live in Moscow, Western Administrative District, Novo-Peredelkino, ul. Lukinskaya. I won’t say an apartment. I have the right.

Or the local forum users fucked in the end?

[Patton5]

And why love her? For the anti-Soviet 90's? For nagging on 1913 year with a lack of social guarantees? For Chechnya?

For the motherland !!! You do not understand such feelings!

[Interface]

There you are. I have no words.

[SSR]

Quote: Interface

There you are. I have no words.

Mutually, you, as my friend from Cern, sounds loud but is cut off from reality tightly.
http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/5088
He smears only one side, and when you ask him a question - name the negative sides of the other! He sniffs air like a fish on the shore, because it’s one thing to train for a long time to slander the concrete wall, and then they switched to brick ... The template broke, however.
I have no words, let them even refuse from fuel elements and titanium, this is not a high-tech product, but also raw materials.

[ty60]

Well, you’ve been banned from a freebie! And what about a surzhik-freebie?

[DV69]

[quote = Interface] [quote] of the latest (and in general) history of the Russian Federation. [/ quote]
Darling, the latest history began in the 1918 year. And the history of the Russian Federation is 20 years of inaction.
What happened before the Russian Federation is the history of the USSR and the Russian Empire. And the semi-colony of the Russian Federation does not pretend to it a bit and is not worthy of the greatness of its ancestors.
[Quote]

You are pavas. The recent history of Russia began in the early 90s, as well as the history of Ukraine.
But about the semi-colony - why so lie so frankly. You didn’t mix anything up there?
This is probably where the American ambassadors give a command to use or not to use force in the country. This is our vice president of a foreign country at a meeting with the country's leaders sits at the head of the table and talks with those present as subordinates. You are not a semi-colony, you are a colony.
And YOU tell us about pride, the Olympics.
There is nothing to talk about with you. You do not hear anyone but yourself.

[Interface]

There is nothing to talk about with you. You do not hear anyone but yourself.

And that means that the outstanding historian DV69 brought out a new concept: "the recent history of Russia".
Recent history began in 1918, and this is the time of Soviet Russia.
Russia's Yeltsin has anything to do with it?

This is probably where the American ambassadors give a command to use or not to use force in the country. This is our vice president of a foreign state at a meeting with the country's leaders sits at the head of the table and

No, well, everything with your brains is not in order.
You freaking - can you even come to my PM and look through the comments that I wrote there?

Or are you schizophrenics just like Svidomo Ukrainians? A yellow-blue flag was seen, which means I’m certainly from the Maidan, is that your logic?
I’m tired of repeating that I’m now in the Crimea, and the Ukrainian flag is hanging on my site.
Questions to the administration.

[gennady.ru]

England at their home summer olympiad ahead of medals even Germany, the strongest team in the world. But as? I simply bought up the majority of all the best promising athletes from around the world, who wished of course, especially from Africa and developing countries, gave citizenship and medals in the pocket of the England team. So take away 90 percent of the medals from England.

[iwakura]

I put you a minus just for the appeal of "Dear friends", as a manifestation of disrespect to the interlocutor, read it further and would stick a dozen more minuses.
The fact that you do not like and even despise the Russian Federation is clear, and the Ukrainian flag somehow hints at why.
And do not distort about Sochi and the Korean: his home country abandoned him, and Russia helped to recover from the injury and become a leader again. The average statistical American snowboarder (it seems the 5th place in the national rating) fell in love with a Russian girl and "op" moved to train in Russia ... became a champion, a girl is a silver medalist ... I can only notice "Love works wonders"
And the fact that the Russian Federation for "non-core" sports attracts foreign athletes, and they agree - this indicates that Russian citizenship is better and more honorable than South Korea or the United States

And on electronics, believe the specialist and user of domestic computers on the KP580 and KP588 processors, we never had normal civilian electronics. and YES - there is still room for further development

[Serzh73]

What is this half..rock doing on OUR website? Go to the censor, exit-entrance.

[Comintern]

Disguised dill, collected the pluses here, gave a fuss, so that later I’ll write all my ukrobander’s dill here. You forget to put in the end. Sala Ukraine

[Interface]

All cured.

[Deff]

1. Can I find out a list of goods made in Russia that match European quality?

Oil-Gas, Space, Aviation, Defense, Access to the bowels, the remnants of the Soviet intelligentsia and science did not tear abroad.
PS: In general, I did something like a sensor for the oil industry fifteen years ago, no worse than German and cheaper http://qps.ru/eVOPb, I think there are a lot of such facts across the country, the domestic retailers do not want to PR them and our domestic authorities this time was not necessary, except for the bowels.

[Interface]

Oil Gas

Oil and gas, of course, are "produced". It would be very funny if it weren't so sad.

Space,

Yes I know. Soviet Protons and Unions, the fallen Phobos-Grunt.
However, here recently a brand new launch vehicle was tested, but this is not enough.

And the Americans, as you know, rover Curiosity.

Defense

Our defense industry is living with the modernization of Soviet developments. The fighters of the 5 generation began to design back in the USSR.
In factories, European equipment is everywhere. The same Kamaz without European banks would still have been producing rumbling equipment from the beginning of the 80's.

Access to the bowels,

And how can "access to the subsoil" be "produced"? \

The remnants of the Soviet intelligentsia and science did not tear abroad.

As if "Oil-Gas, Space, Aviation, Oboronka, Access to Subsoil" was created by the Russian Federation? The USSR did not give us space, but the Russian FEDERATION, YES?

[Deff]

Yes lan, we have nothing but verses: "And in our apartment there is gas, And you ? "

[Interface]

My friend, I am from Russia, I live in Moscow.
Just right now I'm in the Crimea, and the site I hung ukrovsky flag.

Get in to me in PM and see the comments 2h a week ago.
In Crimea, by the way, everything is in order. Only water is served by the clock. The rest is normal.

[Deff]

He lived in Sevastopol at the councils, the same song morning, night and lunch

[Patton5]

This is where water is served hourly ??? And as usual, the most dissatisfied Muscovites. Provocateur Moscow!

[Interface]

All cured.

[severniy]

was a week ago in Koktebel, there, on the contrary, it is much better with water than with an independent .. but the flag, then yes, the site will not work out .....

[SerAll]

Quote: Interface

In Crimea, by the way, everything is in order. Only water is served by the clock. The rest is normal.

Well, I don’t know what about the hours, but in my Alushta they just turned them off at night ... Although Aksenov must fight the fifth column in the housing and communal services! I don’t know what to name them .. but they do it on purpose ... They need to be planted, moreover, urgent ...

[saigon]

In general, in 1979, I visited my uncle as a guest in the city of Old Crimea, and what struck me at night was the water being turned off. Which column I don’t know. And I remember this Siberian.

[GSH-18]

Quote: Interface

Fighters of the 5th generation began to design back in the USSR.

They themselves realized that they blurted out ??

[Interface]

And you wanted to catch me on what?
Americans began to develop the raptor back in 1991, when they determined the company to win the competition.

The Soviet Union began development a few months earlier.

[DV69]

Quote: Interface

And you wanted to catch me on what?
Americans began to develop the raptor back in 1991, when they determined the company to win the competition.

The Soviet Union began development a few months earlier.

Cheto Raptor somehow flies wrong. No BIUS has yet been created, and without it, a combat aircraft is just a flying lab

[Interface]

The raptors produced 190 pieces.
In Russia, the T 50 just flew.

But that doesn't interest us. Everyone is outraged by the hurt "honor" of the brainchild of the alcoholic Yeltsin - RF.

[jPilot]

Yes, no tovarisch wrote everything correctly, you may be surprised, but a lot of things that are supposedly invented now are projects of the late 80s and early 90s, for example the Ka-50 "Black Shark", if memory serves, it began to be designed in 1982. I will say even more that there in the development there are still many things that they did not even come close to, because with the coming to power of the humpbacked, Eben and the liberals, they all pushed under the clear leadership of the amerikosov something and sold something, and now we are screwing it up.

[severniy]

don’t waste your nerves, here 90% of pseudo patriots who did not live in TU EPOCH, when we were really the best, they just have nothing to compare ..
PS I also tried to explain here that Audi (as it is not sad for me) is better than a grant fret ..., it didn’t work out ...

[..Dmitry..]

better in quality, but worse in price)
everyone vibrates a car affordable - honest TAZ, the rest AUDI

[smoker]

Quote: Interface

Yes I know. Soviet Protons and Unions, the fallen Phobos-Grunt.
However, here recently a brand new launch vehicle was tested, but this is not enough.
And the Americans, as you know, rover Curiosity.

Can we recall then what fell from the USA ..?

January 27, 1967 the crew, which was supposed to make the first manned flight under the Apollo program, was killed in a fire inside a spacecraft at the Space Flight Center. Kennedy. Virgil Grissom, Edward White and Roger Chaffee were the first astronauts to die in a spaceship.
People burned down in 14 seconds. The last thing that was heard from the burning ship was the shout of 31-year-old Chaffee "We're on fire! Get us out of here!"

About Apollo 13 "we will modestly keep silent" - everyone there eventually survived, thanks to luck and coincidence of circumstances.

Challenger January 28, 1986. The shuttle's crew consisted of seven people, including one lay astronaut, a former teacher who won a competition for the right to fly into space. The accident occurred on the 73rd second of the flight: one of the parts of the shuttle broke off and punctured the fuel tank. The Challenger exploded in the sky.

In February 2003, space shuttle Columbia was returning from its 28th flight. There were seven people on board. In addition to the Americans, the astronauts included an Indian citizen and an Israeli. NASA lost contact with the spacecraft 16 minutes before the intended landing at Cape Canaveral in Florida. At this time, the shuttle began to fall apart. The crash occurred at a speed of 20 thousand km / h. All seven cosmonauts were killed.

[iwakura]

Quote: Interface

And the Americans, as you know, rover Curiosity.

it is, as it were, not only American, but purely Russian unique equipment is also standing on it.

[Interface]

Of the Russian equipment, there is some kind of sensor. Yea Yea. "Russian unique". As if NASA didn't give pressure sensors. As if cameras and locators for lunar rovers are precisely Russian technology.

But it was proudly shown on ORT.
Right now I’ll get rid of admiration.

[GSH-18]

Quote: Interface

Or are we going to get by with single innovations of microchips, like Elbrus, WHO WILL GO ON DEFENSE ONLY?
Or junk called "Depot" (who does not know, I remind: these are Russian computers) will suddenly start to produce modern PCs by itself?

And the answer is the same: the Russian Federation will not live even 10 years without importing Euro-American technologies, because even if one middle-n-th microcircuit is produced in the United States, then sanctions will be imposed on it, as on equipment of "double value", and they don't make us like that.

Computers have long been stamped in the Moscow region from Chinese and Taiwan components, if you do not know.
What does the Chinese and Taiwanese mikruhi have to do with the United States? Yes, in the United States, more than half of the computer equipment comes from China. So we don’t have to be afraid of Mirikos sanctions here
Well, yes, our first and foremost is the production of the element base of microelectronics for the Moscow Region, what is reprehensible here? It should be so. The country's defense is priority No. 1. And then, even for the average consumer, riveting will begin

[Interface]

Computers have long been stamped in the Moscow region from Chinese and Taiwan components, if you do not know.
What does the Chinese and Taiwanese mikruhi have to do with the United States? Yes, in the United States, more than half of the computer equipment comes from China.

That is, it reassures you?
I am not, I want a completely Russian computer.
Only I know that this is impossible.

Well, yes, our first and foremost is the production of the element base of microelectronics for MO, which is reprehensible here?

You ask me such questions as if I condemn this. I do not blame, I want more. Only because of the dominance of foreign companies, against which we have not imposed sanctions, a little letter is too small to measure with, NEVER there will be powerful Russian electronics. It simply will not rise, and the WTO rules prohibit the provision of subsidized assistance.

[GSH-18]

Quote: Interface

That is, it reassures you?
I am not, I want a completely Russian computer.

You have nothing to ask! Even the Mercikos do not have fully American computers!
No, it's just interesting, but why the hell is it to you, what is the fundamental difference? The current is not happy?

[Interface]

And since when did the local patriots define the United States as the limit of their potential? And we must have.

[fox21h]

all

Quote: Interface

And since when did the local patriots define the United States as the limit of their potential? And we must have.

Since how to catch up and overtake .... It’s only a pity we didn’t understand at one time that we were ahead of the planet for 20 years, and now, in many directions, we also missed a lot, of course (thanks to bald man and drunk), but now it’s not getting better as soon as wanted and not in everything, but it’s not a complete ass.

[Deff]

Electronics will appear immediately, you just have to make preferential lending and taxation for this particular industry, and everyone will move here at once. But for this, scientific personnel are also needed in the government, now it is easier for them to understand about apples and pears in Poland. Probably we have a lot of Parubiev in power. Even Chubais is a specialist in nanophysics and electronics. - From here and large "nanosuccess" in this industry!

[Interface]

preferential lending and taxation, and immediately everyone will move here.

According to the rules of the WTO, into which we "solemnly entered", the Russian Federation has no right to support the national producer with "preferential loans", it is unfair competition.

Should I repeat 3 again?

[GRAY]

Quote: Interface

According to the rules of the WTO, into which we "solemnly entered", the Russian Federation has no right to support the national producer with "preferential loans", it is unfair competition.

I have not read the WTO rules, but maybe you know, the UWB and the EU have imposed sanctions in the banking sector against Russian companies - banning their banks from granting loans for a long term, is it fair competition? In my opinion, within the framework of the WTO, this is not a concept.

[Interface]

Listen, you always turn on a fool when you need to argue?

Man, this is not the United States and the EU buying Russian machines, this is the Russian Federation buying amers and Europeans.

Another thing is that when it comes to competition, the most arrogant and strong will win.
While this is the United States.
The Russian economy is 8 times smaller than the US. US allowed what is closed to us. Just because they are stronger. The rule of the strong has been operating in politics since ancient times.

[Bombardier]

What did you want to say Interface (2) UA Today, 20:10 ↑ ?
A man was offended by life. I want to tell him in 1941. Germans were near Moscow, and in 1945. our army took Berlin, Budapest, etc. .. Russia was in a worse situation than now, but people did not ache, but worked and fought. Do not whine, disgusting. We need to work, everyone needs to work!

[Dali]

So-so ... tell us, know-it-all, how are agricultural producers credited to the EU?

[jPilot]

Well, sanctions should be given a free hand to banks in this direction, we were not the first to start this is how we will live in a kindergarten: take your toys and don’t write in my pot

[Deff]

As an option - sanctions on all but domestic S
I’m thinking about the WTO, we will soon forget the energy charter there too

[dvina71]

Why do you need a Russian computer?
Although .. now in the world there is finally no specific computer name. X86 patent in the USA, compiler - donated by the USSR))), components are molded around the world.
Another thing is important here .. Which countries have their own architecture? Russia has one. And this is very important in terms of security.
Vobschemto..the theme is as old as the world .. A household computer does not make sense without software. And all the software .. practically .. under x86.
The vicious circle .. understand.

[GSH-18]

Quote: Interface

There will NEVER be powerful Russian electronics. It simply will not rise, and the WTO rules prohibit the provision of subsidized assistance.

Yes, calm down already, now the WTO does not care. The confrontation between Russia and the United States is gaining momentum. States use their assets (EU), we have our own BRICS, TS. Ukraine is only a consumable here. Issues are being addressed in Moscow and Washington.

[Interface]

BRICS, TS

Oh Lord.
My dear, Russia has worse economic performance in BRICS than South Africa.

What are you talking about! What assets !?

TS ...
And since when has Kazakhstan become a great economic power to compete with the United States?
Belarus probably does not live on Russian loans?

And in Russia, Medvedev allows everything to increase the tax burden ...

What kind of struggle are you talking about !? We will lose her. WE are not the USSR.

[Geo]

I do not understand your position. What do you want to say? What is all bad in the country? Or is it wrong to impose sanctions against these unfriendly countries? And how was it to be done? Deny everything? Electronics is no longer being made in the USA and the EU, almost completely, all production has been transferred to Asia and Africa. Maybe you think that foreign technology should be banned? What's the point? Maybe you have your own opinion on how to act? And if it is, then why aren’t you doing this at the moment? Suggest, listen.
There is no idea how you want a "completely Russian computer", just as there is no other complex product of a completely separate country, especially a Western one. It doesn't even make sense. Maybe only China creates some kind of product in a full cycle in its own country, but not without Western technologies. In our country, practically everything has been destroyed in 20 years. And we need to restore it. This is not done in a week or a month. And I am surprised by such critics. I would like to ask, what did you personally do for this?

[GRAY]

Quote: Interface

I am not, I want a completely Russian computer.

The production of microcircuits can generate income only if it is massive. Nobody will even take up a completely Russian PC because this product niche is completely occupied by promoted foreign companies.

[poquello]

Quote: GRAY

Quote: Interface

I am not, I want a completely Russian computer.

The production of microcircuits can generate income only if it is massive. Nobody will even take up a completely Russian PC because this product niche is completely occupied by promoted foreign companies.

exactly so, but dude see a philosophizing nerd

[GRAY]

Quote: poquello

exactly so, but dude see a philosophizing nerd

From the series all the polymers were drained.

[Interface]

From the series "Dear scattered all celebrated the Day of Russia, and all the cows died in the collective farm".

Happy holiday to you.

[gennady.ru]

I must tell his mother that the child bruised his head.

[RusDV]

Quote: GRAY

Quote: Interface

I am not, I want a completely Russian computer.

The production of microcircuits can generate income only if it is massive. Nobody will even take up a completely Russian PC because this product niche is completely occupied by promoted foreign companies.

About "mass character - there is profitability" - absolutely right. In a relationship this product niche is fully occupied by promoted foreign companies - everything is in the hands of the state. Abolish taxes on this type of production. Abolition of taxes is not enough - subsidize. Raise import duties on everything we produce. Few - buy up promising developing companies in Asia. Few ? Yes, you can write a doctoral dissertation - what can be done, which guarantees domestic electronics. What guarantees the opposite - the psychology is "lost"

[Interface]

The production of microcircuits can generate revenue only if it is massive

Do you only think about the profit of companies? So it’s impossible for us to develop anything at all, everything is expensive and of poor quality. This is a market, the consumer chooses the best and not necessarily domestic.

So they generally do not need fucking modern schemes, if they can be bought and assembled in the Russian Federation.

[Sandov]

Quote: Interface

That is, it reassures you?
I am not, I want a completely Russian computer.
Only I know that this is impossible.

Everything is possible in this world, no need to whine. Need to work. First of all, to the authorities. Here the gringos imposed sanctions, now let's see how it comes around to them. I hope for our people and believe that we will master and create a strong and rich state.

[Interface]

Everything is possible in this world, no need to whine. Need to work.

It's very easy for you to talk. Just why is the average wage of a worker in 3 times less than in the USA?
Already earned scattered.

[jPilot]

Dear in the USSR, I completely agree with you and support the collapse, but in the future you are not right, to put it mildly, and therefore nominated because your statements are like hysterics "everything is lost" but we ourselves need sanctions for the benefit and we had to answer, but how else if the ghouls do not understand the good thing, and believe me, the adversaries will blow their money more expensively, this will sober them up a little, and maybe it will completely cure and winter is coming soon this will also do its part. So it’s calm, conditions are being created for the next revival of the Phoenix bird under the proud name RUSSIA
In addition, the US government must be destroyed

[Interface]

Phoenix under the proud name RUSSIA wink

I repeat.
It’s just like Russia is getting sick, but it’s not funny anymore.

Respected. The system of state bodies of the Russian Federation was created by Yeltsin’s liberals in 90.
They wrote a constitution.
They shared the economy.

All Vladimir Vladimirovich could distinguish was the resale of foreign goods, playing with the percentage of duties, as well as gas and other raw materials.

And all the large enterprises, I emphasize, ALL factories that in the Soviet era were engaged in the development of PCs, we either gave them up for shopping centers, or right now they will produce lamps.

Astrakhan plant of electronic equipment and electronic devices - bankrupt.
Penza Computer Plant-- bankrupt.
Moscow factory of typewriters - bankrupt.
Severodonetsk computer factory --- bankrupt.
Kazan plant of electronic computers --- bankrupt.


Do you need to continue the list ?!
So the Russian woman from her knees gets up means ?!
BUT? I can not hear?


Data needs to be read, and the vysery of Starikov and other propagandons.

[poquello]

Quote: Interface

...
And all the large enterprises, I emphasize, ALL factories that in the Soviet era were engaged in the development of PCs, we either gave them up for shopping centers, or right now they will produce lamps.

Astrakhan plant of electronic equipment and electronic devices - bankrupt.
Penza Computer Plant-- bankrupt.
Moscow factory of typewriters - bankrupt.
Severodonetsk computer factory --- bankrupt.
Kazan factory of electronic computers --- bankrupt. ...

The arguments you have are all slogan and stupid, read the story of the same Apple.
The main thing is not a plant, but a successful project.
And nefig compare Russia with the USSR, for a completely different country. For 20 years, a market, freedom and democracy have formed in Russia, and the United States has become a police state. And the US economy is puffy and booming. And we will not lose, for the world has changed, and the truth is ours.

[Gorbtk]

Now is the time when no rules work. But to say that all the shit produced in Russia is despicable. Our "allies" for more than 20 years helped us to build it is not clear what, and our leaders have succeeded in this .... The industry has been driven out. Time has passed, what was it was. Why constantly sprinkle ashes on your head. Now we need to support the President in his endeavors.

Now, no matter what kind of war is going on - to the brink, info ... but not an hour will turn into a hot one .. (God forbid) it will become. I'm not talking about dill, I'm talking about the planet Earth - an abscess USof. These apricots think that in a vigorous war you can win ... I won’t continue further ...

PS: The main thing is not to survive, but to destroy the aggressor ...

[Interface]

Russian shit

I did not say that. Ralphs are really good. Only I at official events how will I go to them if normal shoes are made in Italy, Germany and France?

Why constantly sprinkle ash on your head.

I do not panic, and do not sprinkle with ashes. I affirm that to change the existing state of affairs, nothing-muzzle is not done at all. Everyone is happy with what computers do in China and Taiwan.
But Russian computers .... aah, nooo, they say, amers don't even have their own.
Is America the limit perhaps?

[not main]

Quote: Interface

I want a completely Russian computer.

A good computer is enough for me. and for the defense there should be a Russian comp.

[smoker]

Quote: Interface

. I do not blame, I want more.

Here I agree, and I also want more.

Quote: Interface

the pussy is not enough to measure with them, NEVER there will be powerful Russian electronics.

But here I disagree! It is the introduction of sanctions against the Russian Federation that only pushes domestic developers / manufacturers of electronics to development. Moreover, the countdown begins with military / space technologies, and then they are already being introduced into the "civilian" industry.

And I’ll add: “Never say never.”

[bubla5]

These are your fruits that are stored every year and do not rot the European gauno, Norwegian fecal fish grown in nurseries, which was banned in the EU,
what if
not in courses, all electronics are mass-produced in China, so 85% of it is made in China, but something needs to be tried, energized and done by ourselves, but this is only good

[Deff]

The method is simple enough; processing in a helium chamber under pressure displaces oxygen, then wax deposition.

[GRAY]

Quote: Interface

That's why we impose sanctions against imported cheeses and tomatoes, and Euro-Americans - for industrial equipment.

But I see nothing wrong with that.
Introduced to the drilling equipment - so it is made with us.
Let them support a domestic manufacturer.
Pindos clamped the chip - we will buy in China or Taiwan.

[Interface]

China or Taiwan

So I do not know the Chinese and Taiwanese electronics manufacturer, equal to Intel or AMD.

That's at least kill.

[Patton5]

So I do not know the Chinese and Taiwanese electronics manufacturer, equal to Intel or AMD.

Need will make without a license we will produce! And you in which industry, if not secret work?

[Barakuda]

And on Intel and AMD, what a lot of Americans work?
If you lure everyone to their homeland, Intel will cover itself with a run.
For the sake of example, I have been friends for 15 years in Germany. How did he get there? By some miracle, there is a Soviet laser in the Kiev Polytechnic, in a closed laboratory, he went through practice there and wrote a diploma on this subject. He was invited as early as the 5th year, it turned out that in Germany there are the same, and even three, only no one can handle them.

[Privat]

In the Russian Federation, Intel has four R&D centers in Moscow, St. Petersburg, Novosibirsk and Nizhny Novgorod, the latter also employs specialists from the corporation's branch in the Sistema-Sarov technology park. (From Intel Corp.)
For the gifted. R&D - Research and Development. That is, these centers do not sell processors, they participate in their creation.
Same thing with Boeing. Up to 30% of the details and components of the latest models of their aircraft were developed in the Russian branches of the Design Bureau.
Muscovites, at least somehow connected with the design developments, these facts are well known.
Or saw Moscow only in a box?

[atalef]

Quote: GRAY

Introduced to the drilling equipment - so it is made with us.

Russia does not produce equipment for either deep or horizontal drilling
In short up to 70% of import

Quote: GRAY

Pindos clamped the chip - we will buy in China or Taiwan.

In China, affiliates of American and European firms-- they will not sell anything the same.

[poquello]

Quote: atalef

Quote: GRAY

Pindos clamped the chip - we will buy in China or Taiwan.

In China, affiliates of American and European firms-- they will not sell anything the same.

))))) Have fun, did the Chinese tell you this?

[GRAY]

Quote: atalef

Russia does not produce equipment for either deep or horizontal drilling
In short up to 70% of import

“Uralmash - VNIIBT” - doesn’t say anything? Now it's 100% mine.

Quote: atalef

In China, affiliates of American and European firms-- they will not sell anything the same.

The Chinese have long been doing everything themselves.

[DV69]

Quote: Interface

1.

2. An interesting fact: we imposed sanctions on fruits and vegetables, helped the "farmers" (apparently Medvedev started a fashion for farming), but did not introduce them into the electronics industry? Does this mean that the notorious "farmers" need help more than a practically non-existent industry as such?

Or are we going to get by with single innovations of microchips, like Elbrus, WHO WILL GO ON DEFENSE ONLY?
Or junk called "Depot" (who does not know, I remind: these are Russian computers) will suddenly start to produce modern PCs by itself?

And the answer is the same: the Russian Federation will not live even 10 years without importing Euro-American technologies, because even if one middle-n-th microcircuit is produced in the United States, then sanctions will be imposed on it, as on equipment of "double value", and they don't make us like that.

That's why we impose sanctions against imported cheeses and tomatoes, and Euro-Americans - for industrial equipment.

But a self-sufficient industry in the market cannot be built. Because it is a market, not the State Planning Commission. IT IS NECESSARY TO START FROM SMALL, AND THE USER CHOOSES more ... and the best.

Here you are, dear, judging by the flag, from Ukraine. Can you tell me what kind of sanctions Ukraine has imposed against the EU and the United States? How did you personally get together "IT IS NECESSARY TO BEGIN WITH A LITTLE, AND THE CONSUMER CHOICES more ... and better"?
what are you so worried about our electronics and everything else.
I want to remind you that the Soviet Union restored the completely destroyed European part of the country by the mid-50s. At the same time, he did everything himself, without the support of the USA and Europe.
so you don’t have to worry about us. We have experience.

[Wellych]

And the CONSUMER CHOOSES more ... and the best.

Well, maybe not everyone wants to turn themselves into a CONSUMER, maybe some people want to stay people and the world is a little more complicated for them than the vaual factor.

[Caa]

That's why we impose sanctions against imported cheeses and tomatoes, and Euro-Americans - for industrial equipment.

As for me, it's better to "twist with a screwdriver" with a bite of tomatoes from the garden than "screw with a screwdriver" choking on hamburgers, GMOs and Pepsi.

[severniy]

from you have a bite .., , but the question is simpler, everyone who prints here let them look at the clave .., who, 100% of those who looked saw English letters, which means that ???, they correctly understood and my posts are too strong they read where ???, right on monitors over the same English fonts ... and tomorrow even having the desire to run to a super-hyper-mega market and buy some kind of monitor and typewriter such as a birch, ruby, or hero, they will not be able to carry out this plan, and why ??? , and here read the post:

"" "" "" "" Or junk called "Depot" (who does not know, I remind: these are Russian computers) will suddenly start to produce modern PCs by itself?
And the answer is the same: the Russian Federation will not live even 10 years without importing Euro-American technologies, because even if one middle-n-th microcircuit is produced in the United States, then sanctions will be imposed on it, as on equipment of "double value", and they don't make us like that. "" "" "" "" "" "

PS Deputies have long been shawling, it’s better to have bad European cars than our good ones .., before long we still have to raise these industries, if not sad ....

[poquello]

Quote: severniy

from you have a bite .., , but the question is simpler, everyone who prints here let them look at the clave .., who, 100% of those who looked saw English letters, which means that ???, they correctly understood and my posts are too strong they read where ???, right on monitors over the same English fonts ... and tomorrow even having the desire to run to a super-hyper-mega market and buy some kind of monitor and typewriter such as a birch, ruby, or knight, they will not be able to carry out this plan ...

they can, and the English letters because English was mistaken for international

[Spike]

Hohlyatsky woodpecker knocks on a reinforced concrete pole ... D ... b

[77bob1973]

We won't talk about fruits and vegetables, but we can answer about supposedly American microcircuits. Probably not aware that all American aircraft fly on Chinese electronics and even in "tomogavki" most of the microchips are Chinese.

[..Dmitry..]

Comrade General Letenant. let me report
unfortunately you think 1 day. Yes, the industry is currently #ope. BUT! in our country (at least in Saratov), ​​they sharply began to raise production, primarily, of course, the defense industry.
As for the farmers - ours will not be buried in the ground, but will be sold with a bang. For example, I buried KamAZ apples in the country in the ground, and now with pleasure I will sell even 10 rubles each.
about Elbrus - Are you a rocket engineer?
Export US technology? - Are you an apple tree? Aplevod? I have LG and Samsung appliances ...
I'm not a stupid person to overpay for a brand of a bitten apple in two.

And the CONSUMER CHOOSES more ... and the best.

Well this is how you brainwash Apple
my sams 4s-mini is much cooler than 4 tyblocks and cheaper

Russia will not survive even 10 years without importing Euro-American technologies

My friend .... I remember - as it was written - "reached the limit of PC technology 1 GHz", and, oops, after half a year - 2 GHz. so the term is 10 years ...

Yes, a lot of brains have flowed, but no less is left and growing,
If you are closer, you are not a patriot

What exactly did you do to make RUSSIA BETTER?
ask yourself this question every ...

[gennady.ru]

But what did the beloved Americans do or invent for you? Let's start from the top, from the great. Cosmos von Braun, who is German. The nuclear program-Niels BOR, Einstein and others, for the most part Germans and Jews, electrical engineer-Nikola Tesla-Serb, Helicopter-building-Igor Sikorsky before the revolution, a citizen of Russia and so can continue for a long time. Read the list of Nobel laureates and who they are by nationality and origin, and not by place of work and citizenship. You are worried about microcircuits, because their Americans are stealing from the Japanese, Koreans and Chinese, even normal cars have forgotten how to do it, the US auto industry is at zero. Our lunar rovers 40 years ago on the moon traveled on our electronics and / BURAN / flew the first time and landed. All cosmonautics, defense, nuclear, gas transportation systems and much more that work on our electronics and are not inferior to the western, but in some ways better. And in order to massively, how do you want to produce computers and stuff, you need markets, because shit like that was around and there was no reason to invent and produce a bicycle. Why the United States buys cars in Japan, Korea, Germany and even in China, there are also electronics and clothes. They scooped up goods for 17 trillion bucks that they don’t know how, how and when, whether they can even repay the debt. Ukraine has rolled down the same path of debts like silk, and there’s nothing to give back at all, well, let’s arrange a revolution and war, they say the war will write everything off. From 1913 to 1993, despite two world wars, one civil war and two revolutions, we survived, won and created a great power, which makes your Western world sleep so badly. And from 2 to 1993, with the help and on the advice of your friends today, they rolled into the abyss, God saved, regretted, sent V.V. and now, in just 2000 years, we have gotten stronger, the people have rallied so that your EURO-USA goes to his pants, or there will be more. We do not need to build a self-sufficient industry, we practically already have it. All you need is free will, ready factories are standing, all your raw materials, your own energy resources, there is your own scientific potential, there are large human resources and everything in your own country, you don’t need to carry or buy anything over the hill. Work only and do not be lazy. And how much land! And lard, and butter, and vegetables with fruits, meat, fish and other things will be eaten all in 14-2 years. We’ll just feed, lend to drink, for no reason we will not give to anyone, especially the former / BROTHERS /.

[rasputin17]

I do not agree !!! Goods with numbers 481 and 487 are our customs allies and strategic partners! They cannot be offended since today a telephone conversation took place between the three leaders and agreements were reached on reciprocal joint actions to the applicable sanctions! And to a number of other countries going to an open and honest dialogue and friendship with Russia, one should not offend and smear with one measure that NATO and the mattress !!

[ty60]

the list is already announced. Everyone else does not jump. they are NOT active jumping around the world. Poles overeat apples, Balts choked on sprats. Obama began to eat three chicken legs a day to support the economy. Psaki - two. Status does not allow more

[Juborg]

Guys are not in the subject, but we will rejoice: Kiev junta's punitive tank fist defeated at Thorezas reported by sources in the headquarters of the Donbass People’s Militia.

"After an hour and a half of artillery preparation at the Snezhnoe-Torez-Ivanovka line of defense, the enemy grouping, consisting of three tank battalions of the 81st OMB and with the support of the 74th OPSN, fell into the minefield set up the night before in the alleged breakthrough areas. Within 15 minutes it was destroyed 19 units of armored vehicles, "the message says.

According to the militia, several dozen punishers were taken prisoner. Also captured 8 BMP-3 and 4 tanks T-84U "Oplot".

According to sources in the militia, "the enemy suffers catastrophic losses. The militia forces are developing a counteroffensive in the direction of Dmitrovka-Dyakovo."
http://роднаяприрода.рф/news/?ELEMENT_ID=12719

[INVESTOR]

Quote: juborg

Guys are not in the subject, but we will rejoice: Kiev junta's punitive tank fist defeated at Thorezas reported by sources in the headquarters of the Donbass People’s Militia.

"After an hour and a half of artillery preparation at the Snezhnoe-Torez-Ivanovka line of defense, the enemy grouping, consisting of three tank battalions of the 81st OMB and with the support of the 74th OPSN, fell into the minefield set up the night before in the alleged breakthrough areas. Within 15 minutes it was destroyed 19 units of armored vehicles, "the message says.

According to the militia, several dozen punishers were taken prisoner. Also captured 8 BMP-3 and 4 tanks T-84U "Oplot".

According to sources in the militia, "the enemy suffers catastrophic losses. The militia forces are developing a counteroffensive in the direction of Dmitrovka-Dyakovo."
http://роднаяприрода.рф/news/?ELEMENT_ID=12719

Doubtful source.

[GRAY]

Quote: INVESTOR

Doubtful source.

Here's the normal:

17-11. A brief summary of the militia.
After an hour and a half of artillery preparation at the Snezhnoye-Torez-Ivanovka line of defense, the grouping of the Ukrainian army consisting of three tank battalions 81OMB and with the support of the 74th special forces detachment went on the attack and hit the minefields that were installed the night before at the alleged breakout sites. Within 15 minutes, about 19 units of armored vehicles were destroyed. Several dozen people were captured. According to preliminary, and at the moment, not specified data, 3 to 8 infantry fighting vehicles and 4 tanks were captured. The enemy suffers catastrophic losses.
17-30. Message from the militia.
Ukrainian aviation is bombing its own people so that they do not go to Russia. Late yesterday evening, Ukrainian Su-24 bombers appeared in the sky over the Izvarinsky cauldron, carrying huge aerial bombs on their external sling. The militias on Saur-Mohyla, who watched this, were already preparing to repel the air raid, but the bombers, flying past, went to the territory occupied by Ukrainian troops. Soon bombs rained down and powerful explosions began to be heard in the enemy's position. At that very moment, a serviceman from the remnants of the broken 79th brigade phoned the relatives. He shouted that their location "by mistake" was being bombed by their own aircraft. The conversation was suddenly interrupted. This bombing was hardly a mistake. Ukraine at any cost needs to keep the remnants of the encircled from going to Russia, so that they chained the forces of the militia to themselves for as long as possible and so that the truth about the unseemly actions of the Ukrainian command would perish with them. How many killed and how many were wounded by these bombs is still unknown. Only a message was received that the deputy commander of the 2nd battalion of the 79th aeronautical brigade Sergey Krivonosov was killed last night.
17-56. Gorlovka, from about 11 o'clock (Moscow time) there is shelling of the city, heavy weapons are used - the explosions are very strong. Most of the hits in the residential sector, there are casualties among the civilian population. The filter station on the Stroitel railway station was broken, it provided half of the city with water, and a new wooden church burned down nearby.
18-35. Today, August 7, 2014, between 11 and 13 o'clock in the afternoon (Moscow time) through Miusinsk on Krasny Luch in the area of ​​the mine "Miusinskaya" a column of the Ukrainian army left. In the composition of 10 tanks, armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles, as well as trucks. Apparently, these are the remnants of the column that was defeated outside Miusinsky today. On the way of the column, all fields are on fire. Before the tanks entered the road leading into the city, the militia retreated in cars. The military looks confused. It looks like they just moved at random where they would go. The Ukrainian military has blocked the road with tanks and are standing between Miusinsk and Krasny Luch.
20-01. Tanks were brought into Kiev, according to unverified information - to clean up the Maidan. A column of T-64 BM tanks and Tunguska self-propelled anti-aircraft guns passed along Pobeda Avenue. The Ministry of Defense does not give explanations, referring to "military secrets".
20-40. From one of the Ukrainian checkpoints in the DPR, 20 soldiers voluntarily left. 15 of them wrote reports on vacation, but left the duty station without waiting for a positive answer, another 5 went AWOL without a report
21-21. A military aircraft of the Ukrainian army was shot down near Donetsk. The plane flew over the territory controlled by the militias. He fell into the field, the pilot managed to eject - he was seen descending by parachute about 40 km from Donetsk. An explosion was heard at the crash site, a fire started, black smoke rises into the sky.
http://voicesevas.ru/news/yugo-vostok/3521-voyna-na-yugo-vostoke-onlayn-07082014
-hronika-sobytiy-post-obnovlyaetsya.html

[max702]

After this, I’m not surprised at anything ..

[cosmos111]

another junta plane shot down !!!
according to one MiG-29, according to other Su-25 .....

URGENTLY. Over Enakievo shot down Su-25 punishers
07.08.2014 - 21: 06
Over the city of Yenakiyevo, air defense units of the Ministry of Defense of the DNI shot down an attack aircraft of punishers of the Kiev junta Su-25. Nothing is known about the fate of the pilot, the agency Voenkor.info said in a statement citing sources in the Donbass People’s Militia.

According to eyewitnesses, the plane, flying at the poultry farm, fell 150 meters from it in the field between the village Rozovka and Yenakievo airdrome.

According to sources, the plane that launched the bombing attack on the positions of the militia could be struck by the calculation of MANPADS. After the militia successfully hit, several Ukrainian planes barraged over Enakievo in search of the place where the Su-25 fell.

http://www.segodnia.ru/news/144681

[net abortion]

Quote: Student

hatch

Confidential information was received from the headquarters of the self-defense forces of New Russia.


As it became known, on Monday, August 4, a direct communication channel was organized between the command of the 79th airmobile and 28th mechanized brigades and the units of the armed forces of Ukraine attached to them and the leadership of the people's militia.

During the interrogation of the Ukrainian security forces who surrendered to the militia, one of them introduced himself as deputy chief of staff of one of the above brigades (for obvious reasons, the information was not disclosed) and announced that he was authorized by the command to organize negotiations. The staff officer reported the call signs and radio frequencies at which the Ukrainian security forces were waiting for the militia representatives to communicate. During the negotiations, the Ukrainian security forces proposed an end to the armed confrontation and requested a “white corridor” to exit the encirclement. According to the brigade command, several reasons served as a prerequisite for this decision. The main one is the complete cessation of the supply of units, including ammunition, food and medicine.

As a result of the reached agreements, seriously wounded and shell-shocked military personnel of brigades are already being withdrawn from the "boiler". In exchange for this, several artillery systems, MLRS systems, Osa anti-aircraft missile systems, as well as 15 units of armored vehicles were transferred to the disposal of the self-defense forces of New Russia.

In addition, an agreement was concluded that, provided the life of the remaining personnel of the Ukrainian units was guaranteed, the militia command would be provided with irrefutable information about the participation of Western countries in the civil war in Ukraine, in particular, living foreign mercenaries and instructors. The latter were disarmed by the Ukrainian security forces and captured during an attempt to destroy the deployed field headquarters of the 79th airmobile brigade and liquidate its command.

According to the surrendered officer, this incident served as a turning point in the decision of the Ukrainian security forces to stop resistance.

[jPilot]

Wow, if not a fake, then about mercenaries just great news in Moscow utyrkov and as they say "a prize in the studio" ah yeah, were taken when crossing the state border for the purpose of a terrorist attack

[DV69]

Quote: net abort

Quote: Student

hatch

Confidential information was received from the headquarters of the self-defense forces of New Russia.


[I]

In addition, an agreement was concluded that, provided the life of the remaining personnel of the Ukrainian units was guaranteed, the militia command would be provided with irrefutable information about the participation of Western countries in the civil war in Ukraine, in particular, living foreign mercenaries and instructors. The latter were disarmed by the Ukrainian security forces and captured during an attempt to destroy the deployed field headquarters of the 79th airmobile brigade and liquidate its command.

According to the surrendered officer, this incident served as a turning point in the decision of the Ukrainian security forces to stop resistance.

Where does infa come from? Do you have a direct channel of communication with the militia headquarters?

[AVIATOR36662]

And from the "Picture of the Day" there is wonderful news, how our guys are destroying the Pravosek punishers and the National Guard. The next Ukrainian airplanes have been shot down. It's a little thing, but nice!

[Vend]

“The North Atlantic Alliance is stopping cooperation with the Russian Federation, strengthening collective defense to protect all NATO members, and has decided to increase the level of support and cooperation with Ukraine,” the Secretary General said. http://news.mail.ru/politics/19130404/?frommail=1

Scared how. Already afraid

[Giant thought]

NATO has long declared us an enemy, just like the current Ukrainian leadership, so the bastards unite in the fight against Russia. Apparently, they discussed when Ukraine will start a war against Russia.

[Reserve officer]

Kiss in the ass at the highest level.

[asar]

Kiss in the ass at the highest level.

I am joining! Framing my ass for a kiss! Forum users! Support ?!

[Stypor23]

Quote: asar

I am joining! Framing my ass for a kiss! Forum users! Support ?!

We support, nettles or a strap on the bare s.rake of both bastards.

[severniy]

I didn’t even kiss, but licked ..., damn it, it’s not disgusting myself ...

[asar]

Is it gutting whether it is minus ?! Naliza, bastard ?!

[Student]

for Peace and Freedom where ???? In Ukraine???

[Alexander I]

A cuckoo praises a rooster for praising a cuckoo.

[andrei332809]

ha ha ha pig awarded the one who attached it under the ax

[Roman 1977]

Well then, PARAShenko is preparing his way to a retreat in order to have time to escape on time ...

"Look, a medal! .. A great honor! .. I have countless awards: All hung like a Christmas tree, On the back - and then there are six of them! .."

[peter-tank]

Order of Sutulov to him! With a spin on the back !!!

[Buran]

Order of the diamond liver, with a hemp band around his neck, and a wooden cross in the sternum.

[major071]

Poroshenko awarded Rasmussen the highest award provided in Ukraine for citizens (citizens) of foreign countries. We are talking about the Order of Liberty.

There would be no press, he would have licked his ass too. Ugh, prostitute!

[Scoun]

Quote: major071

Poroshenko awarded Rasmussen the highest award provided in Ukraine for citizens (citizens) of foreign countries. We are talking about the Order of Liberty.

There would be no press, he would have licked his ass too. Ugh, prostitute!

So now, even if Ukraine remains as a state .. its type is the highest order of "freedom", no one will be able to present normal..this order became the order of maydanutyh pido / pedophiles.

[skylare]

One bad substance rewarded another, and it remains to be seen which is worse.

[Glowworm]

The Secretary General, probably, did not understand why he was awarded, and Poroshenko did not understand what he was giving - after all, the concept of "peace and freedom" is not for them. Another fridge magnet.

[alexandr-budarin1]

According to the "Old Maidan Tradition", he was supposed to award this American henchman with LIQUID.

[mig31]

Order of "freedom on the blood" of the Russian people in Ukraine ...

[calocha]

... Why not fear sin
cuckoo praises a rooster?
For praising the cuckoo ...

[Revolver]

Where did you see the cuckoos? There are solid roosters.

[3vs]

Parashenka should be careful with this Rasmussen.
Probably was with a hidden microphone again, recording a conversation.
Then, on occasion, lay out to reporters.

[avg]

Quote: 3vs

Parashenka should be careful with this Rasmussen.
Probably was with a hidden microphone again, recording a conversation.

Yes, he has long had nothing to hide. He even farts on American notes.

[RESEARCHER]

The Ukraine-NATO Commission, which is due to take place on September 4-5 in Wales as part of the NATO summit, may not take place in the event of successful militia operations by the DPR and LPR to defeat the junta.

[Finches]

Rasmussen is a respected person in Western circles! He secretly dragged a dictaphone in his underpants and recorded the President of Russia, for which he made the Washington Regional Committee the head of NATO! True, let's say the tank Rasmussen saw only in the picture, but that does not matter. Now he looks like a daddy visiting the geographical misunderstanding of Ukraine, where Poroshenko’s political misunderstanding gives him the badge of Saint Ebukentiy ... And it would be funny if this theater of absurdity weren’t so bloody!

[sergey261180]

Quote: Finches

He secretly dragged a dictaphone in his underpants and recorded the President of Russia

Do not worry! Given the sexual orientation of Parashenko, such a number will not work with him!

[Finches]

Yes, it’s clear! Interestingly, Poroshenko immediately put on his pants with his fly back or he already has two industrial flaps sewn in - with back and front !? From the back to meet senior bosses, and from the front, that would go to the toilet, but to show the Ukrainian people a bright future ...

[Buran]

He met him in Scottish, in a skirt.

[alexandr-budarin1]

"Kiss my belly ...
Below .. Below .. Just about !!

Gaza + Rasmussen group

[sergey261180]

Poroshenko met NATO Secretary General and awarded

"You awarded meо a couple of lice ... "the Gaza Strip group

[tomcat117]

... "Poroshenko met NATO Secretary General and awarded" for peace and freedom ""


"How, dear Cockerel, you sing loudly, it is important!" -
“And you, Cuckoo, my light,
How to pull smoothly and lingeringly:
In the whole forest we don’t have such a singer! ” -
"I am ready to listen to you, my kumanek, century." -
“And you, beauty, I swear ...
...
Why, without fear of sin,
Does the cuckoo praise the Rooster?
For praising the Cuckoo.

More than ever, these two woodpeckers the plot of the fable of the great I. A. Krylov fits

[Sergey Sitnikov]

In Ukraine you need to appear to your Noah! Let the ark stand - it’s a pity for the animals and the Russians will run to us, and let the Svidomo and dill drown in their own G.

[pensioner]

It is reported that Poroshenko awarded Rasmussen the highest award provided in Ukraine for citizens (citizens) of foreign countries.

I suppose that in response this miracle with bulging eyes rewarded the pet with a friendly pat on the shoulder, and then thought: "Isn't it too much for a pygmy? ".

[asar]

potroshenko - prostitute, bastard! Potroshenko "bloody"! And for you, stsuka, the loop and the soap are ready! Pray to your God Satan! Bastard!

[Reserve officer]

Quote: skylare

One bad substance rewarded another, and it remains to be seen which is worse.

The game was equal - played two shit.

[Russian Alex]

by winter it will be hung all over Europe.

[father nikon]

Poroshenko met NATO Secretary General and awarded "for peace and freedom"

What a shame! another feast during the plague
And anyway ... Rasmussen pinned there ?!

[Gorjelin]

Where did the war reports go? Everything is bad? Are they hiding something?

[BOB044]

At the end of the meeting, the presentation of the Order of Liberty and a kiss in the ass of the President of Ukraine NATO Secretary General. L.I. Brezhnev even kissed on the lips.

[craniums]

Do not touch Ilyich. Though he didn’t cheat on his soul, he kissed from a pure heart

[BOB044]

I L.I. I respect Brezhnev and I do not blame his kisses, he did it from the heart.

[Mama_Cholli]

Quote: craniums

Do not touch Ilyich. Though he didn’t cheat on his soul, he kissed from a pure heart

In this case (with Poroshenko and Down), a mutual kiss of the cleanest places still does not guarantee against a sexually transmitted disease.

[Veteran of the Red Army]

The main topic of conversation between Rasmussen and Poroshenko was "Russian aggression"

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[major071]

Photo - Otpad. Campaign there behind him Lyashko crept up!

[boozer]

Lyashko was late, he was busy in the ATO area, with someone ...

[jPilot]

"Phew what a nasty face" - the words of the classic are immortal. And that NATO members do not leave Avgan through Ulyanovsk !? Well, block it ...

[GRAY]

The Order of Judah is an order made in a single copy in 1709 by order of Tsar Peter the Great to award the hetman Mazepa.
The order was a circle weighing 5 kg, made of silver. The circle depicted Judas Iscariot, hanging on an aspen, below the image of 30 pieces of silver and the inscription:

“The son of perishing Judas is being repulsed, even if he suffers from avarice.”

It would seem, where does Ukraine have to do with it ?!

[Mama_Cholli]

Quote: GRAY

The Order of Judah is an order made in a single copy in 1709 by order of Tsar Peter the Great to award the hetman Mazepa.
The order was a circle weighing 5 kg, made of silver. The circle depicted Judas Iscariot, hanging on an aspen, below the image of 30 pieces of silver and the inscription:

“The son of perishing Judas is being repulsed, even if he suffers from avarice.”

It would seem, where does Ukraine have to do with it ?!

It is a pity that silver is not enough for all Ukrainians to make such pendants. They lie out of their skin, thinking that they will reward.

[zadorin1974]

Replace with iron, better of course lead

[vlade99]

Parashka will also be awarded soon. A cross. Wooden.

[Finches]

No need to fertilize the earth with this freak - burn it in the crematorium and pour it into the toilet!

[Mama_Cholli]

Quote: Finches

No need to fertilize the earth with this freak - burn it in the crematorium and pour it into the toilet!

You should not interfere with such a caustic g_a_vno with the usual d_er_m.

[Alexander I]

And this scum will spread even better to dig deeper and roll up and forget.

[Veteran of the Red Army]

Poroshenko, presenting this award to the Secretary General of the military bloc, said that the visit of Rasmussen to Kiev speaks of support from NATO peace in Ukraine

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[boozer]

One with dark skin, who declared his exclusivity and drowned half the world in blood, receives the "Nobel Peace Prize", the other, wrinkled and rattling with oils, rattles modern armor and weapons at the call of his ancestors, receives the award "For Peace and Freedom"! Where is the world heading? I don’t understand something when there was a substitution of the concepts "Good-bad"?

[Iline]

Rasmussen tried so hard to earn such a toy, he tried so hard! And the reward found the hero. Now he can calmly look around and determine the next donor. like small children, damn it.

[Roman 1977]

Regular trophies of militias:
Today, on 7 of August 2014 of the year, in 3: 25, a group of Ukrainian troops of the 24 motorized brigade was destroyed by the forces of the Cossack National Guard of the Great Don Army.
From the place of hostilities trophies were taken: armored vehicles and artillery equipment of the enemy.
Over 100 pieces of equipment were destroyed and captured.
Many soldiers and officers of the Ukrainian army were also captured.

152 mm BG 2A65 "Msta-B"

T-64BV

[Geo]

Here you can immediately see the captured "enemy" equipment with a white stripe. Do not blame Putin. Although ... I can predict the headlines of the articles ukroSMI- "Russia put white stripes on equipment and transfers it across the border to terrorists"

[AVIATOR36662]

Wonderful shots. And the pictures and the guys themselves. As a veteran, I am sincerely glad that we have such fighters. They are already heroes in fact, and some of them will wear the real Star of the Hero of Russia on their tunic. I have no doubt.

[Performance]

The horror of the commentators on this site is a couple of minutes and all the thoughts that flashed through my head are already set out in a very readable form ... a nightmare is just ... nothing to add I join!

[forest park 86]

yeah, well, all very smart

[Victor-M]

Quote: Efficiency

The horror of the commentators on this site is a couple of minutes and all the thoughts that flashed through my head are already stated here.

Also noticed? I think I’ll write it now, and you start to leaf through and on you, they already wrote.

[gmasterbit]

I hope the medal was made from materials brought from Chernobyl?

[S_W_A_T_72]

FROM CHOCOLATE

[suomi42]

Why, without fear of sin, the cuckoo praises the rooster? For praising the cuckoo.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: suomi42

Why, without fear of sin, the cuckoo praises the rooster? For praising the cuckoo.

More precisely, I think the rooster praises the fox ... (and the fox is drooling ..) And in the offing the bear wanders and growls ..

[craniums]

Like Krylov’s about this (maybe a little to the side):
Why, without fear of sin,
Does the cuckoo praise the Rooster?
For praising the Cuckoo.

[zanyks]

a couple more applicants for the Nobel Peace Prize.

[Mama_Cholli]

Quote: zanyks

a couple more applicants for the Nobel Peace Prize.

It seems to say that the black award-winning blue inclinations. There will be a complete quorum.

[Mama_Cholli]

Thank you for your + rating. After all, it was my 1000th post on VO! ... Anniversary so to speak.

write: I will try to continue to please you and upset them.

[VICTOR-61]

What kind of a world is a parasome devastation of killing civilians not long you still have to sit on the throne and give the fascist a reward you are not human beings and animals against humanity you need a bomb cover for so many women’s children and still rewards death to fascists

[Coconut Tima]

Insanity grows stronger !!!
Nalyvaychenko: terrorists planned to shoot down Aeroflot plane instead of Boeing
Read the details on UNIAN:

[GABALIS]

http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/097/gmvy333.jpg

[KIRON]

Maybe powder will give a medal for peace in the head? Just how. I, the so-called, one of the "couch strategists". Despite 23 years in the Armed Forces.

[bender8282]

and according to the statute for reward lick ass ass gomseko NATO is not supposed to ???

[Uzer 13.]

A dashing and silly look is available. A medal will not hurt him either.

[tomcat117]

Soldiers and officers captured in battle, there is nothing to let go to Russia.
All the same, these heifers are taken back to the slaughterhouse.
Better, let them dig ditches and trenches, bury the killed civilians, dump landfills after the bombing, etc. ...
After a certain period of work in the rear, let them go home as they want and with what they can.

[Bassoon]

Insanity in dill grows stronger.

[fly fishing]

The plot was remembered, once presented a T-shirt)))

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Info war and not only we still win .. (slowly of course, but still) The whole progressive world froze .. watching the fierce battle of Russia with the world financial monster ..

[Mama_Cholli]

quote: Poroshenko met NATO Secretary General and awarded "for peace and freedom"

Pisi: I wonder ... how long has this sexual intercourse lasted and will they have consequences from unprotected sex?

[Finches]

The third brother Klitschko will be born!

[Peter Timofeev]

How much is this evil in Ukraine? Pravoseki, homosexuals, secretaries general of NATO - who is next?

[Finches]

Peter Victor! You are right, it seems that Europe and the USA are pouring all their sewage into Ukraine!

[RUSOIVAN]

not NATO Secretary General, but NATOseki!