Kiev and Washington will "photoshop" the red stars on the wings of the Su-25, shot down "Boeing"?

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7 August Australia announced the day of mourning for the victims of the disaster "Boeing-777" in Ukraine. Flags on all government offices and buildings of Australian diplomatic missions abroad are lowered.

Prime Minister Tony Abbott сказал: “We mourn all the 298 innocent victims, but most of all we mourn the 38 men, women and children for whom Australia was home. We deeply condole with the families of the victims and give them support in the coming difficult times. ”

ITAR-TASS reports that Russia has transmitted to the UN and the OSCE monitoring data on the area of ​​the crash of the aircraft. This was stated by the Permanent Representative of the Russian Federation to the UN Vitaly Churkin, speaking at a meeting of the UN Security Council. Comrade Churkin stressed that Russia "provides all possible assistance to the investigation" of the plane crash.

Meanwhile, one of the preliminary reports of international experts, published by the Malaysian edition "New Straits Times", once again gave reason to catch the Ukrainian military in a lie. An expert group investigating the causes of the crash of Boeing-777 of Malaysia Airlines, after examining a series of shots from the crash site, concluded that the passenger airliner was most likely shot down by a military plane. The possible brand of the aircraft is also called Su-25.

Referring to the representatives of the expert group, the publication of the New Straits Times writes that the initial strike on the Malaysian Boeing was caused by an air-to-air missile, and then the military aircraft attacking the airliner fired a series of shots from an 30-mm cannon.

From the New Straits Times:
In some pictures from the crash site, the fragments from the explosion coincide with those that are left weapon with a remote fuse, while others can see more accurate and heap holes from gun fire. We are engaged in the analysis of the collected information.


Kiev and Washington will "photoshop" the red stars on the wings of the Su-25, shot down "Boeing"?


Experts note that the re-attack of a passenger plane from aviation the pilot needed the guns in order to “finish off” the airliner. At the same time, the expert group does not say anything yet about which side the military attack aircraft could have attacked, which attacked a passenger plane, on board of which there were 298 people.



In principle, already now there is little point in expecting the conclusions of the same expert group about the Su-25 attack aircraft belonging, as information about its belonging several days after the tragedy was spread by the Russian Defense Ministry with the provision of evidence obtained through tracking systems. According to this information, it was the Ukrainian Air Force that received an order to take an attack aircraft into the air, which for some time was moving from the MH-17 at a distance of 5 km, moving closer to 3 km with episodes. Even taking into account the fact that the Su-25 attack ground's practical ceiling is about 7500 m, and the Malaysian liner was moving at an altitude of about 10 thousand meters, this difference in altitude is not a big problem for an attack aircraft to deliver an accurate strike. At the same time, the data provided by the Russian Ministry of Defense suggests that the Ukrainian Air Force’s Su-25 began to move away from the Boeing-777 precisely after it began to lose altitude. To some it may seem like a coincidence? Not yet in this world psaki, in the end ...

The statements of experts submitted by the Malaysian edition, publishing materials in English, in fact, reject the version that the airliner was shot down with the help of the Buk air defense system. The nature of the damage after a missile fired from this complex got into the plane would, to put it mildly, be somewhat different, as noted by the representatives of the foreign expert group. By and large, for people who have an idea of ​​how aviation weapons and anti-aircraft missiles operate, this was understandable after receiving the first shots from the scene of the tragedy. But in our case (as it happened lately), one has to pay attention to the nonsense of Kiev and their distribution through psaki channels. And in this regard, the flimsy stool, which they were trying to base, finally knocks out from Kiev nonsense. If foreign experts admitted that the plane was shot down not by “Buk”, but by Su-25, then present-day Kiev has only two options for further actions: either through Psaki to declare that they are not experts, but charlatans, or to give “evidence” of that Su-25 was not Ukrainian, but in any way “separatist”, “Russian”, “Martian”.

True, in this case, Kiev will have to not just. The fact is that the head of the intelligence department of the US defense department, Michael Flynn, in an interview "The Wall Street Journal" made a sensational confession. According to him, the first thing that guided the Pentagon after the tragedy with "Boeing 777" in the Donbas in terms of voicing the reasons, were published in social networks.

Michael Flynn:
The first data about who shot him down, what shot him down, when and where he was shot down - all this was obtained from social networks.

And this was done literally within a few minutes of what happened.


According to Flynn, the US Department of Defense reacted to the message on the social network "VKontakte", where the militia allegedly stated that "they shot down a transport aircraft."

Amazing But Lieutenant General Flynn quite calmly admits that American intelligence seriously turned to the use of social networks as the primary sources of information for their work. Why satellites, why radar, if there is a "VKontakte" and "Facebook"? ..

What to say about Psaki, Harf, Ernest and all the other "talking heads" of Washington! ..

It turns out that for the "trolling" of the intelligence department of the US Department of Defense, you can now do any nastiness and, most importantly, immediately publish information about it from any name on the social network. And you can not do, and just publish ...

An example of a social network entry for the start of the urgent work of American intelligence and psaki comments: “51 a year ago. Kennedy. It was us. Kohl, Gogh, Boria (abbreviated - KGB). Please do not copy the message. It's top secret! ”

In general, we expect a reaction to the conclusions of the expert group on the causes of the tragedy with Boeing from Kiev and Washington. From which "instagrams" will they draw their excuses for their crime now? ..
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  1. +54
    7 August 2014 12: 45
    We know the phasington evidence
    1. -28
      7 August 2014 12: 58
      Quote: Kimblee
      We know the phasington evidence

      I'm not special, but looking at the picture in Powell's hands, it seems that she is "photographed" to his photograph.
      1. +34
        7 August 2014 12: 59
        As for the networks ... Madam Psaki, here is a confirmation of the recruitment of mercenaries from the Russian side ...

        In a search engine, you type a job search - a tractor driver. one of the first pops up.

        -Tractor with a wide profile is required to work on a rotational basis in a team. Tractor team - 3-4 caterpillar tractors. duties - disking, plowing, equipment repair. the salary is 81000 rubles.

        One hundred pounds of tankers are recruiting ... Jen ... I give a tooth ..
        1. +19
          7 August 2014 15: 30
          Required workers to work on the poultry farm. Elite breeds of kites and falcons for hunting. Salary 120000 rubles. Stopudovo fighter pilots recruited. Jen ... I give a tooth ... tongue
          1. 0
            7 August 2014 17: 17
            Russian pilots reported massive failures of the American GPS navigation system in the most aircraft-saturated Moscow region. According to experts, this could have been either an "accidental glitch" or a dangerous hint from the US controlling the GPS. However, the accident would be surprising - after all, it happened after the appearance of information about the possible closure of the Russian sky for the US and EU airlines.
            source: http: //www.politonline.ru/rssArticle/22267541.html
            1. avg
              +15
              7 August 2014 19: 29
              Now about Boeing no longer remember. He did his job. Geyropa, bursting with noble indignation, stopped breaking down and agreed to follow the cowboy. Now this has already been played. Now all our "horribly unfair" response to sanctions is condemned.
          2. +3
            7 August 2014 20: 12
            Quote: avia12005
            Required workers to work on the poultry farm. Elite breeds of kites and falcons for hunting. Salary 120000 rubles. Stopudovo fighter pilots recruited. Jen ... I give a tooth ... tongue

            Yes, no, it's in the militia, at the poultry farm, at the slaughterhouse of roosters from ps, and like a lash!
        2. 0
          7 August 2014 20: 54
          In fact, posting the militia’s output on Facebook is quite logical because he sees a plane that just crashed, since the militia has been doing this almost constantly for three months, and successfully, he just has no time to determine the type and draw thoughtful conclusions, so the states worked on that. ..
      2. +7
        7 August 2014 13: 14
        Of course!!! Any picture in the hands of a mattress and dill is an absolute PHOTOZHOPOY. No one doubts this, except for the wretched Europeans on their heads.
      3. +16
        7 August 2014 13: 24
        This is a modified photo where he shook a test tube .... here and substitute the relay races ... a bitter joke
        1. +8
          7 August 2014 16: 05
          .... Savsam feelings for humar pateral ????? wassat
      4. +25
        7 August 2014 13: 31
        Quote: Uncle
        I'm not special, but looking at the picture in Powell's hands, it seems that she is "photographed" to his photograph.

        Are you serious?
        1. Atanda
          +3
          7 August 2014 13: 54
          Do you think he’s joking? Here are some methods zombie ukrov ?! Yes, they did - they showed a picture and ... you don’t need a knife for a fool ... and do shaw hosh with it!
        2. 0
          7 August 2014 15: 14
          Quote: Denis
          Are you serious?

          Well, here's the original picture with a test tube.
          1. +1
            7 August 2014 20: 29
            "Quite, here's the original tube picture." This is not a test tube, but a copy of the latest Russian air defense missile that shot down a Boeing. The rocket is very secret, made in a single copy for Vladimir Putin. But this is a state secret.
          2. +2
            8 August 2014 02: 03
            +1 Dogs to your brain .... treat a sense of humor.
          3. 0
            8 August 2014 02: 07
            +1 Dogs to your brain ... dude - relax, drink something, treat a sense of humor.
          4. OPATOP
            +2
            8 August 2014 07: 27
            Quote: Uncle
            Quote: Denis
            Are you serious?
            Well, here's the original picture with a test tube.

            You are a real CEP. It was clear to everyone except you idiot that this was a joke. You are probably not Russian.
      5. Atanda
        +46
        7 August 2014 13: 48
        I'm not special, but looking at the picture in Powell's hands, it seems that she is "photographed" to his photograph.

        It's all gone, Chief! Everything is lost! There is one expert among the readers! He figured it out! He figured everything out! Call Putin! Tell: "Uncle" burned us!
        Sucks with humor, uncle friend! lol
        1. -43
          7 August 2014 14: 41
          Quote: Atanda
          Sucks with humor, uncle friend

          Don’t poke, you’ll break your finger ...
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          2. +7
            7 August 2014 16: 06
            ..... They carry water on offended .... But in something you are right ... hi
          3. +3
            7 August 2014 20: 32
            '' Quite, here's the original picture of the test tube. It is necessary to be treated, if still possible.
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        2. +6
          7 August 2014 16: 20
          Guess who put you a minus? laughing .There is such a type of people who do not understand jokes!
          1. +2
            7 August 2014 20: 17
            Quote: Tigrus
            Guess who put you a minus? laughing .There is such a type of people who do not understand jokes!

            laughing laughing laughing I rode under the table laughing laughing laughing
            .There is such a type of people who do not understand jokes!
        3. Atanda
          +53
          7 August 2014 17: 37
          Well, one could write: "for those who have no sense of humor", but this is not so relevant.
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      8. Wednesday
        +2
        7 August 2014 14: 51
        Dear "Uncle", please change the icon!
      9. +7
        7 August 2014 15: 19
        Bravo!!! Sherlock Holmes would envy your deduction !!! And at the same time I would advise you to develop a sense of humor smile
        1. -3
          8 August 2014 00: 23
          Quote: Kimblee
          Bravo!!! Sherlock Holmes would envy your deduction !!! And at the same time I would advise you to develop a sense of humor smile

          What did you get to the bottom of Uncle? He correctly said, photoshop. And it should be funny? I’m also not funny. 298 dead, trying to put the blame on Russia for this provocation. What's the humor?
          Now imagine, just imagine: your family, even if just Russian people flew on vacation over a country where there is a civil war. The plane was shot down. Imagine what a terrible death these people died. And funny, deductively gifted citizens of neighboring countries have fun on their forums ... are you still riding under the table?
          1. OPATOP
            +2
            8 August 2014 07: 35
            Quote: zennon
            Quote: Kimblee
            Bravo!!! Sherlock Holmes would envy your deduction !!! And at the same time I would advise you to develop a sense of humor smile

            What did you get to the bottom of Uncle? He correctly said, photoshop. And it should be funny? I’m also not funny. 298 dead, trying to put the blame on Russia for this provocation. What's the humor?
            Now imagine, just imagine: your family, even if just Russian people flew on vacation over a country where there is a civil war. The plane was shot down. Imagine what a terrible death these people died. And funny, deductively gifted citizens of neighboring countries have fun on their forums ... are you still riding under the table?

            Why are you moving around? Here the conversation is not about the victims, but about what idiotic methods all the time prove their lies. And this causes a laugh in a normal person. But you imagine all kinds of nonsense at the expense of your relatives.
      10. +4
        7 August 2014 15: 20
        Quote: Uncle
        Quote: Kimblee
        We know the phasington evidence

        I'm not special, but looking at the picture in Powell's hands, it seems that she is "photographed" to his photograph.

        Bravo!!! Sherlock Holmes would envy your deduction !!! And at the same time I would advise developing a sense of humor)))
      11. +8
        7 August 2014 15: 41
        Quote: Uncle
        I'm not special, but looking at the picture in Powell's hands, it seems that she is "photographed" to his photograph.

        And why are you minus ??? laughing
      12. +5
        7 August 2014 16: 24
        As a pretext for the attack on Iraq by Saddam Hussein, the United States then presented the whole world with a fake that they allegedly had in their hands evidence of the presence of chemical weapons in Iraq ... In fact, they did not find any chemical weapons in Iraq, but they destroyed the country, they destroyed Saddam Hussein ... So there is no faith in all the words of the United States, from them comes only a lie, a lie, provocation, again a lie!
      13. +1
        7 August 2014 18: 16
        uh, with humor problems?
      14. mishkent
        +3
        7 August 2014 18: 28
        No comments. Your name is Jennifer!
      15. +1
        7 August 2014 22: 43
        This is the US representative on the Security Council, Samantha Power, and Powell's face was simply photographed.
      16. -1
        8 August 2014 04: 58
        Daladna!?!?!?
        yeah ... you're not special ....))))))
      17. 0
        8 August 2014 05: 02
        Daladna!?!?!?!
        Blyakhamuha .... The original of this photo. On it, Powell holds a test tube supposedly from Iraq, with samples of weapons of mass destruction, which affected the invasion of Iraq. In fact, it was imaginary evidence, which became the standard for Photoshop, to characterize the system of arguments of US experts ...
        And by the way, I'm not an expert ..))))
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      19. 0
        8 August 2014 13: 47
        Is it so hard to notice?
        Don’t you understand humor at all?
    2. +4
      7 August 2014 12: 58
      Quote: Kimblee
      We know the phasington evidence



      It is naive to expect repentance from them.
      They ssy in the eye - God's dew.

      Thanks to Ukraine, she opened our eyes to "an honest and just world community."

      No need to expect anything from them, neither good nor bad. Only business, nothing personal.
    3. +7
      7 August 2014 13: 16
      And in the cockpit of the attack aircraft Putin will be at the helm .... who has doubts?
      1. +2
        7 August 2014 14: 54
        And who else, after all, was trained by Kharchevsky himself, the head of the Lipetsk center.
    4. Cadet787
      +11
      7 August 2014 14: 20
      Please distribute:

      The Minister of Defense of the Donetsk People’s Republic Igor Strelkov spoke about the great material difficulties of the militia and called on people to help Russian soldiers.


      On paying regular salaries to militia fighters. “I do not have that kind of money !!! And there never was. They were promised, but never received. In order to pay a salary of 20 thousand rubles for July, those who came to services at least at the beginning of the month require approximately 3 million “standard units”. And where will I get them from? The financial system of the DPR “died without being born”, and the militia does not print money ...
      But another thing is worse - in 2 weeks I will have nothing to feed the soldiers of our Slavic brigade with.
      I can only "bow at the feet" of those volunteers who fight for free, without cigarettes, without normal shoes, often - even without uniforms, in conditions of shortage of everything - from cartridges to mugs and spoons ... And once again turn to those who PROMISED HELP : HELP !!!!! AT LEAST MONEY !!! NOT FOR ME!!! RUSSIAN SOLDIERS !!!! "

      Source: http://rusvesna.su/news/1407267844
      1. Sergei 57
        +2
        7 August 2014 14: 53
        Usually, after such statements, Ukrainians are defeated. More likely a provocation than the truth.
    5. +3
      7 August 2014 14: 30
      Joking as a joke, and in fact the stars will draw a pilot with a Russian passport, who will be recognized in everything!
      Because America doesn’t even try to kick the drum, because it has believed in its exceptionalism and power — why will it be cast out for the sake of some truth? America said that the militias are to blame, then they are to blame! But is it true or not, it does not bother America!
      Here, unfortunately, this is the case! And rest assured, a very large number of countries will support this particular point of view. As they say, nothing personal is just a business! The fact that pin..am is profitable is true!
      1. P-38
        +4
        7 August 2014 15: 55
        Quote: Finches
        America said that the militias are to blame, then they are to blame! But is it true or not, it does not bother America!
        Here, unfortunately, this is the case! And rest assured, a very large number of countries will support this particular point of view.

        They will support, but not all. The dead have relatives and friends, and they do not care who the killer is. Both in Holland and in Malaysia. And frank nonsense in this case will be perceived by them as mockery of the memory of the dead. They will demand the truth and raise a cry for the whole world. So not everyone will support the nonsense of Kiev and Washington
        1. +1
          7 August 2014 20: 02
          I would like to hope that the Malays and the Dutch will not get sick for the sake of the common "truth". God sees everything, and we will not forgive ...
    6. +1
      7 August 2014 17: 44
      I would very much like there to be as much evidence as possible that the Boeing 777 was deliberately shot down by the Ukrainian military.
    7. +1
      7 August 2014 19: 53
      This secretary of state of a self-respecting country (conscious lies are inherent in non-self-respecting people and other people and countries) seems to have been used by American wiring blindly. He sincerely believed that Hussein had chemical weapons in vitro. The current state secretary, a former veteran of the Vietnam War and his pack. (Psaki, etc.) lie deliberately. God see everything....
  2. +5
    7 August 2014 12: 47
    There will be a pause now, Psaki will consult with Koshaki, etc.
    And then we'll see ... but still doesn’t admit Urkaina’s guilt and, most importantly, everyone will forgive her everything ...
  3. +4
    7 August 2014 12: 49
    "The New Straits Times, citing the expert group, writes that the initial strike on the Malaysian Boeing was carried out by an air-to-air missile, and then the pilot of the attacking military aircraft fired a series of shots from a 30-mm cannon."

    Well, here's another carnation in the coffin of the Ukrainian independence. the Ukrainians, together with the owners, raised a fuss about the Buk air defense system, so that no one would suspect about the air strike.

    1. +4
      7 August 2014 16: 10
      ..... The version is interesting ... But in this case, the crew’s negotiations on this matter should be saved in the flight recorder .... After all, some time has passed after the rocket hit and the cannon attack ....
      1. +1
        8 August 2014 00: 39
        Quote: aleks 62
        ..... The version is interesting ... But in this case, the crew’s negotiations on this matter should be saved in the flight recorder .... After all, some time has passed after the rocket hit and the cannon attack ....

        When uh ... that is, dill was shot down in 2001 by a Tu-154 over the Black Sea, the last words of the captain were published - "Where did you get ..." But there was an S-200 with a monstrous warhead and an airplane much smaller than the Boeing. And if we imagine the attack of the Rook with the launch of two P-60s? They have thermal seeker, and they flew into the dviguns!
  4. +7
    7 August 2014 12: 50
    I think they will blame everything on the only SS captured by the militias.
    1. P-38
      +4
      7 August 2014 16: 00
      Quote: Wend
      I think they will blame everything on the only SS captured by the militias.

      And this is even more difficult. How can you explain that just before the attack, the Boeing crew received a command to change echelon, which exposed them to an air attack? It turns out that the Ukrainians have agreed with the militias and framed Boeing under the attack of one single "drying"? No, it doesn't fit here. But the attack, organized from a single center, with the participation of dispatchers and an attack aircraft (and possibly a fighter), docks
      1. +1
        7 August 2014 23: 03
        Quote: aleks 62
        the Malaysian Boeing was struck by an air-to-air missile, and then the pilot of the attacking military aircraft fired a series of shots from a 30-mm cannon. "

        Quote: P-38
        I think they will blame everything on the only SS captured by the militias.

        IMHO it is not without reason that it is the version with Su - 25 that walks in the media. But the GSh-30 gun is installed on both the MiG-29 and Su-27, and dill has both types of aircraft.
  5. +4
    7 August 2014 12: 52
    Quote: Black and White
    There will be a pause now, Psaki will consult with Koshaki, etc.
    And then we'll see ... but still doesn’t admit Urkaina’s guilt and, most importantly, everyone will forgive her everything ...


    Is not a fact. How the situation will be and the situation will turn around. If they won, then victory would have hidden everything, but in the current situation it will be easier to merge ukrov when the Americans realize that they themselves can drown with them.
    1. SergeyM
      +1
      7 August 2014 13: 14
      Then, ukraine will not seem enough, they will be ironed like terrorists worse than Lebanon, the amers will have to overwhelm the fragments of Ukraine with evidence of their involvement in all this.
      1. +1
        7 August 2014 14: 21
        No one will iron ukrov .. for the west they are saints ..
    2. +3
      8 August 2014 14: 30
      Quote: mamont5
      in the current situation it will be easier to merge ukrov when the Americans realize that they themselves can drown with them.

      This is also unlikely. Then too much dirt can float to the surface of this fetid swamp. Most likely, they will simply bury this story, as at one time they quietly buried the story with the South Korean Boeing.
  6. +4
    7 August 2014 12: 53
    So the truth is revealed .. Lie - don't lie, and truth always pops up in the end ..
    1. +2
      7 August 2014 13: 15
      Quote: DVxa
      So the truth is revealed .. Lie - don't lie, and truth always pops up in the end ..

      And the RF briefed in time with a briefing .. The preemptive strike was killer!
  7. +28
    7 August 2014 12: 53
    In general, we expect a reaction to the conclusions of the expert group on the causes of the Boeing tragedy from Kiev and Washington.
    1. +2
      7 August 2014 13: 04
      Not. not this way. Now it turns out that the cruiser Aurora quietly at the oars flew up to the Boeing and attacked the air-to-air missile.
    2. +2
      7 August 2014 13: 51
      I beg your pardon "madam"! We went along the underground levnevka !!!
      PS "Levnevka" is a network of city wells - "pSaki"
  8. +2
    7 August 2014 12: 54
    The truth is slowly starting to pop up !!! Although ukram is not the first time to lie to the whole world in the eye!
  9. Atanda
    +5
    7 August 2014 12: 57
    I am with Photoshop on "you", if anyone needs something to photoshop for the good of the cause, for the glory of Russia and to defeat the enemies, write in a personal! What I can - I will help.
    1. +1
      7 August 2014 22: 17
      here is the article
      http://topwar.ru/54848-u-ssha-novaya-igrushka-premer-niderlandov-ryutte-i-ego-sa
      nkcii.html
      people in the comments suggested taking photos of the Dutch Prime Minister
      Howlet SU July 24, 2014 13:27 p.m. ↑

      By the way, looking at the photo for the article, I immediately visited the thought of the photo-toad, in which Rutte was not blowing the whistle at all. Instead, draw a black Obamov sex facet.
      so the material is there, go for it! hi
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  11. 0
    7 August 2014 12: 58
    Psaki will clarify in his office, and Bloody will "scoop up excuses" for his crime in a hundred grams of "buryachiha", or maybe in two hundred, for how much health is enough. Something Peter, lately, looks bad.
    1. +8
      7 August 2014 13: 23
      Quote: B.T.W.
      Something Peter, lately, looks bad.


      And how much more will he have to gobble up? They planned to sell their agricultural products in Europe, and now there is overproduction.
      Now Ukraine will not be able to sell anything at all and there will be no pennies.
      Petrusha ... you have to run.
      1. +4
        7 August 2014 13: 40
        Wow! He is with an apple. Does the flash mob support it? Mess! Why is there an apple in the frame, not a tie?
        1. +3
          7 August 2014 14: 59
          Quote: Maksud
          Wow! He is with an apple. Does the flash mob support it?

          This is him, the Serpent the adversary (Satan Obama) slipped. lol
        2. 0
          7 August 2014 15: 18
          Quote: Maksud
          Does the flash mob support it?

          Yeah, a flash mob, at dill with dumplings, the apple rescued.

          :)
        3. +3
          8 August 2014 14: 34
          Quote: Maksud
          Mess! Why is there an apple in the frame, not a tie?

          This is, so to speak, an aperitif. A tie is a delicacy, it is served for dessert, under Georgian spices.
  12. djtyysq
    +1
    7 August 2014 12: 58
    Ukraine does not admit guilt, there is no need to hope for an objective investigation on the records of black boxes, they will let everything go on the brakes, but the main thing is that the West is zombified by the press for the guilt of the militias and Moscow, Draw your own conclusions !!!
  13. +12
    7 August 2014 12: 58
    Photo of the controller who led the Malaysian Boeing 777.

    Search for "Aydar" spotter of fire

    Drunk Ukrainian military firing a mortar

    moreover, fire is being fired on the territory of Russia
  14. +1
    7 August 2014 13: 01
    Propaganda becomes more important than facts. If the facts do not suit, to hell with the facts. Where is the pilot? They are there in dill on the fingers count. Gru, oh!
    Find a pilot.
    1. +8
      7 August 2014 13: 15
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Propaganda becomes more important than facts. If the facts do not suit, to hell with the facts. Where is the pilot? They are there in dill on the fingers count. Gru, oh!
      Find a pilot.

      No one to look for. It has long been removed, such witnesses are not needed.
    2. +1
      7 August 2014 16: 22
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Find a pilot.

      Do you seriously think that GRU representatives can freely approach any airdrome in Ukraine like this and present their certificates and start a witness interview?
      1. +1
        8 August 2014 00: 48
        Quote: revnagan
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        Find a pilot.

        Do you seriously think that GRU representatives can freely approach any airdrome in Ukraine like this and present their credentials and start interviewing witnesses?

        That’s exactly what I think! I wouldn’t want to be in the witness ’place if these guys took up him! And the fact that they can easily drive to any airfield, so they can, rest assured!
  15. +4
    7 August 2014 13: 02
    This is the most important information for Russia and the World for the last 6 months. It is so good that the Malaysians gave out the Old.
  16. +5
    7 August 2014 13: 04
    The FSB of Russia stopped the activities in Novosibirsk of two hackers, members of the well-known international group Anonymous.

    And introduced them to the awards =)

    Novosibirsk hackers were involved in DDoS attacks on official websites of authorities committed in 2012, the FSB said in a statement.
    Computer crackers were not held accountable, confining themselves to a warning about the inadmissibility of committing acts that fall under the sanction of article 273 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (the creation, use and distribution of malicious computer programs).

    This, the department explained, is due to the fact that hackers repented of their deeds and assisted the FSB in preventing further computer attacks.
  17. +16
    7 August 2014 13: 07
    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/375/islq673.jpg
    1. +4
      7 August 2014 14: 19
      "Social media posts are sufficient proof of your guilt." That is, recognition is the queen of evidence, somewhere I've heard that before ...
  18. +2
    7 August 2014 13: 12
    How and by what the APU Boeing was shot down is secondary. The main reason is. And then, in order to complicate the supply of heavy weapons to the militia through third hands, drawing attention with loud presentations to the borders of the Russian Federation. So I see it now.
    1. +2
      7 August 2014 14: 31
      According to rumors, they thought GDP was flying, but to think big problems with it, other options are even more delusional. They will find another 30mm shell in the wreckage, and then what? Where did they come from? Or a completely conspiracy theological version of who flew in this plane, and because of this they shot him down, but again they would have planted a bomb and it would be the end .. But everything is too complicated, and given the mental abilities of dill, the first option is most realistic ..
  19. steell
    +5
    7 August 2014 13: 13
    Ah ameroeksperty, you do not hold the truth lol
    http://www.politonline.ru/ventilyator/17083.html
  20. +2
    7 August 2014 13: 14
    I look forward to hearing from DURWASHINGTON ....
    1. -1
      7 August 2014 18: 25
      Well now, then they will definitely not be in a hurry and will not get into social networks.
  21. +1
    7 August 2014 13: 15
    American psakism is a new social phenomenon still unknown to sociologists! Please do not confuse with the usual nonsense!
  22. 3vs
    +2
    7 August 2014 13: 17
    We are waiting for confirmation from our experts.
    Perhaps the crusaders revere this site as well.
    Now they are probably building a new version in Kiev.
  23. +4
    7 August 2014 13: 17
    Guys, well, honestly, there is a link to the "New Straits Times", but try to find at least something there that looks like what is written here! This "news" was quoted yesterday by one of the sites close to the Novorossiya militia. Then it appeared in another resource, already overgrown with details. And here I am reading it again, actually with photographs of this New Straits Times, with even greater detail! There is anything you like, denunciation of Russia, quotes from amerskie generals and squeals of dill, but there is nothing like what is written here! Why produce fakes then? If I'm wrong, give a specific link to this article with "experts", I will publicly apologize for the mistrust, but I really shoved all the articles into the translator and AT ALL did not find even a mention of the Su-25!
    PS. I personally do not even doubt that dill brought down a Boeing, if that ...
    1. The comment was deleted.
    2. +8
      7 August 2014 13: 33
      Quote: Alexxeg73
      Guys, well, honestly, there is a link to the "New Straits Times", but try to find yourself at least something similar to what is written here!

      Everything is there, except for the brand of the plane -
      KUALA LUMPUR: INTELLIGENCE analysts in the United States had already concluded that Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 was shot down by an air-to-air missile, and that the Ukrainian government had something to do with it.

      This corroborates an emerging theory postulated by local investigators that the Boeing 777-200 was crippled by an air-to-air missile and finished off with cannon fire from a fighter that had been shadowing it as it plummeted to earth.

      In a damning report dated Aug 3, headlined “Flight 17 Shoot-Down Scenario Shifts”, Associated Press reporter Robert Parry said “some US intelligence sources had concluded that the rebels and Russia were likely not at fault and that it appears Ukrainian government forces were to blame. "

      http://www.nst.com.my/node/20961
      1. +5
        7 August 2014 13: 41
        Really! Missed, I'm sorry! It’s only strange that the article is today, and it was referenced yesterday (http://ria.ru/world/20140806/1019014818.html), that is, the 6th. And yesterday this article was not accurate. Probably there is some other resource in this newspaper, where articles appear in the first place.
        1. HAM
          0
          7 August 2014 13: 57
          And what, you are surprised, because it is prescribed to firefighters to come to the fire ten minutes before it, and no one argues ....
      2. +1
        7 August 2014 13: 48
        But is it really possible to get out of a cannon by plane at a distance of 3-5 km?
        in the Second World War, the pilots hit "rivets"
        tell me specialists.
        1. 0
          7 August 2014 14: 20
          Over the territory of Donbass the plane has already decreased (or was falling) to less than 6000m. There is an Internet (it seems in the report of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation) trajectory in height - time and distance
          To the campaign, the rocket was launched either at the border with the region, or even before
      3. 0
        7 August 2014 15: 38
        There is no reliable data on the type of combat aircraft located next to the Boeing777 and shot it down. At a briefing by the Russian Defense Ministry, it was suggested that it was a Su25, but it could have been a MiG29. The ESRs of the aircraft are similar, the cannon weapons differ in the type of gun, but the caliber is the same 30 mm.
    3. 0
      7 August 2014 14: 21
      minus you, poorly searched. it is not about Su-25 that is written there, everything else is
      I will give pieces for understanding
      US analysts conclude MH17 downed by aircraft
      By Haris Hussain - August 7, 2014 @ 8:20 AM

      KUALA LUMPUR: INTELLIGENCE analysts in the United States had already concluded that Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 was shot down by an air-to-air missile, and that the Ukrainian government had something to do with it.

      This corroborates an emerging theory postulated by local investigators that the Boeing 777-200 was crippled by an air-to-air missile and finished off with cannon fire from a fighter that had been shadowing it as it plummeted to earth.


      Yesterday, the New Straits Times quoted experts who had said that photographs of the blast fragmentation patterns on the fuselage of the airliner showed two distinct shapes - the shredding pattern associated with a warhead packed with “flechettes”, and the more uniform, round-type penetration holes consistent with that of cannon rounds.


      http://www.nst.com.my/node/20925
    4. 0
      7 August 2014 15: 36
      http://www.nst.com.my/node/20961
  24. dzau
    +3
    7 August 2014 13: 18
    Quote: Kimblee
    We know the phasington evidence

    Vee eats suomnyavatsa in guilty Putin ?!
    1. +7
      7 August 2014 13: 39
      Quote: dzau
      Quote: Kimblee
      We know the phasington evidence

      Vee eats suomnyavatsa in guilty Putin ?!

      Yes, the list of his crimes is long and terrible!
      He is to blame for almost everything, from bird flu to ebola, it was he who killed the Dead Sea and life on Mars.
      And in the photo - he is in a mask - breathing Ukrainian gas - not otherwise, then he will fly to destroy boeing around the world!
      Today he will make a speech on TV - dangerous !!! 25th frame is possible - urgently weaving foil caps!
      wassat That's nonsense, at the level of bears with balalaikas - but they believe in him!
    2. +1
      7 August 2014 18: 27
      And how does he manage to do everything?
      1. +1
        7 August 2014 22: 35
        at that time, he was flying from South America, on board number 1 there is a secret compartment where the new Russian Miracle weapons are the 6th generation SU-107 invisible aircraft. Putin undocked in flight, flew to Ukraine and shot down a Boeing. bully
  25. RyazanVDV
    +2
    7 August 2014 13: 24
    Knowing the sworn friends, there is no doubt that they will find "proof". We just have to get ready for the new pearls from Miss Psaki.
  26. Old Cynic
    +4
    7 August 2014 13: 25
    “51 a year ago. Kennedy. It was us. Kohl, Gogh, Boria (abbreviated - KGB). Please do not copy the message. It's top secret! ”


    Alexey hi , this is just for starters!
    We still need to "beckon" them that an eleven-year-old hooligan from Baskovy Lane Vovochka Putin, a thunderstorm of the surrounding cats and classmates, took part in this.
    It was to them ... They, and no one else, from the slingshot cut out by the same 100500-year-old Canadian maple, which was specially cast in the special laboratory of the Cheka-NKVD-MGB-KGB-FSO-FSK-FSB pellets, the long-suffering was broken John Fitzgerald's skull. Moreover, the sneaky shot of Vovochka was carried out from the intersection of Ligovsky Prospect and Deribasovskaya.
    Proof of? As there people began to say: "I am sorry for Lyashko" !!!
    1. +3
      7 August 2014 13: 57
      Good afternoon, Dmitry!
      Quote: Old Cynic
      carried out at the intersection of Ligovsky prospect and Deribasovskaya
      good
      1. Old Cynic
        +1
        7 August 2014 15: 24
        Duc ... Psaki grabs and does not choke.
  27. sdfre
    -13
    7 August 2014 13: 26
    About a third of Russians do not trust the government. And they’re doing it right. Just see http://kuco.ru/h25 - which was made by the ministry. Here is information about all the inhabitants of the former Soviet Union, everyone can see it. And people don’t even suspect about it. All this can be removed after a simple registration.
    1. Old Cynic
      +8
      7 August 2014 13: 50
      Lord Comrades Admins!
      Please put a filter on the pearl: posted information about all the inhabitants of the beating USSRand posted information about all residents of the former USSR, and... negative
  28. +8
    7 August 2014 13: 38
    At the same time, the data presented by the Russian Ministry of Defense indicate that the Su-25 of the Ukrainian Air Force began to move away from the Boeing 777 precisely after it began to lose altitude.


    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/728/ybsj239.jpg
  29. wanderer_032
    +3
    7 August 2014 13: 39
    Kiev and Washington will "photoshop" the red stars on the wings of the Su-25, shot down "Boeing"? wink

    Why prompt gos.depovskim downs? No.
    May be perceived as a guide to action ... Yes
    I won’t be surprised if I see it in the media tomorrow. laughing
  30. KIRON
    0
    7 August 2014 13: 46
    Calculate the pilot who knocked down 777. How does he live? Will not shoot, exactly. Poho, the word "crest" will soon become obscene. am
    1. +4
      7 August 2014 15: 09
      Most likely no one will find him.
      1. wanderer_032
        +1
        8 August 2014 06: 51
        Dispatcher and recording negotiations too.
  31. Don barbosa
    +2
    7 August 2014 13: 48
    The denouement is approaching. Threw off small things, we expect the main trump cards.
  32. +3
    7 August 2014 13: 58
    The downed airliner bowed the Europeans who were hesitant about imposing sanctions against Russia, and now Japan has gone on about the world theater of the absurd. Even if now Kolomoisky himself confesses to this terrorist attack, the staff members will not change their opinion - Russia is to blame !!! This she forced the "patriots of Ukraine" to make such sacrifices, otherwise the Europeans do not notice "the crimes of dictator Putin" against the "independent state". How they got it with their shameless arrogance !!!!
  33. 0
    7 August 2014 14: 01
    Here is a video from this board, who are interested:
    1. +1
      7 August 2014 14: 42
      Well, I saw this video the next day, it was longer for 40-50 seconds
      Then he found that the VIP class was closed to the passage, they say there went a special delegation of virologists.
    2. 0
      7 August 2014 15: 44
      How is this known? What exactly is that board?
    3. KoRSaR1
      0
      7 August 2014 19: 46
      And in my opinion, this is a staging, with the aim of showing that there were supposedly living people on board, this is from the version about the missing Malaysian Boeing, which allegedly was "shot down", by the way, the passengers were not found, and those corpses that were found near Boeing, smelled strangely, and the colors were not normal for a "fresh" corpse.
  34. Serega125
    0
    7 August 2014 14: 04
    How did they determine the plane? After all, all Su and MiG weapons are almost the same.
    1. 0
      7 August 2014 14: 21
      Yes, they didn’t determine it, the translator added it.
    2. 0
      7 August 2014 14: 50
      In principle, the Su-25 is the Su-25T with a maximum height of up to 10 000m. See the wiki. And there was a decrease in Boeing from 10600 to 10 000. In principle, the Su-25 has the largest spacing between the engines among those listed, which means the inverse track is the widest, judging by satellite images
  35. 0
    7 August 2014 14: 06
    Quote: Atanda
    I'm not special, but looking at the picture in Powell's hands, it seems that she is "photographed" to his photograph.

    It's all gone, Chief! Everything is lost! There is one expert among the readers! He figured it out! He figured everything out! Call Putin! Tell: "Uncle" burned us!
    Sucks with humor, uncle friend! lol


    Well, what are you really? Google has a great Image Search option. That's what pops up
    1. Atanda
      +2
      7 August 2014 17: 48
      And still relevant!
  36. 0
    7 August 2014 14: 08
    And what is trifling? Personally, Putin at the helm.
  37. 0
    7 August 2014 14: 20
    the initial strike on the Malaysian Boeing was delivered by an air-to-air missile, and then a pilot attacking a military aircraft airliner fired a series of shots from a 30-mm gun.


    But the witness (at 57sec) says the opposite, at first there was shooting, and then an explosion.



    There was another video where another witness also talked about shooting in the sky.
  38. olega211
    +2
    7 August 2014 14: 21
    What, then all the media in the West forgot about the plane. And the boxes seem to have to be decrypted.
    1. 0
      7 August 2014 15: 41
      I can not understand! Why decipher it there ?! Why are they talking in Alfocentavrsky with the dispatcher? The whole box was ...
      1. 0
        8 August 2014 14: 09
        So in order to take photos and overwrite, to sound out all the records of the black boxes, this is the time and specialists are needed ....
        Then to present to the world community of consumers of news and fans of Psaki ...
  39. +3
    7 August 2014 14: 43
    How cool the Americans crap !!! But they will prove that they do not stink. Because they don’t give a shit on their pants. Our pants, and the deposition is strange !!
  40. +1
    7 August 2014 14: 57
    Well, at least the Malaysians did not fall into insanity! Although ... This is only the OPINION of experts, and not the CONCLUSION OF EXPERTISE (it may be different from the opinion).
  41. +2
    7 August 2014 15: 07
    Personally, I do not care what they say in the United States, the main thing is that the families of the dead would know who killed their loved ones.
  42. 0
    7 August 2014 15: 26
    So you need to take a photo of the crosshair on Huseynovich’s forehead. So that his life does not seem to be honey.
  43. daladin
    0
    7 August 2014 15: 40
    need to hit a ballistic missile in America, draw an al-Qaeda sign
  44. 0
    7 August 2014 15: 41
    Quote: Uncle
    Quote: Denis
    Are you serious?

    Well, here's the original picture with a test tube.

    yes dear with a sense of humor you have trouble
  45. 0
    7 August 2014 15: 55
    They will hush everything up with political pressure and blame everything on the Russian Federation. I won’t be surprised if the results of the investigation and the evidence disappear, and instead the false results of the investigation, written in the State Department, appear and admit that the militias shot down the plane.
  46. 52
    0
    7 August 2014 16: 02
    Quote: lelikas
    Quote: dzau
    Quote: Kimblee
    We know the phasington evidence

    Vee eats suomnyavatsa in guilty Putin ?!

    Yes, the list of his crimes is long and terrible!
    He is to blame for almost everything, from bird flu to ebola, it was he who killed the Dead Sea and life on Mars.
    And in the photo - he is in a mask - breathing Ukrainian gas - not otherwise, then he will fly to destroy boeing around the world!
    Today he will make a speech on TV - dangerous !!! 25th frame is possible - urgently weaving foil caps!
    wassat That's nonsense, at the level of bears with balalaikas - but they believe in him!

    Well, I don’t know ... My bear read, drank vodka and went for a balalaika! Again all night will be walking! drinks
  47. 1970mk
    -6
    7 August 2014 16: 14
    Not ... I'm just really interested ... who will explain to me? How did the Su25 attack aircraft fly somewhere down 4 meters below the Boeing type? Popularly, can anyone explain this fact without fantastic details? Does the Su25 radar have airborne detection? His type brought? He Visually saw Boeing 4 meters above him and launched air-to-air missiles specially equipped for this? Sorry, but for me this version of BAD is full ...
    1. korablik
      0
      8 August 2014 00: 15
      To be lower by three kilometers and a couple more behind the goal means to see it. You will count the hypotenuse yourself. Raise your nose for 20 seconds, so that the missiles take aim and any pilot of the ukrovaffe can launch. The target-boeing was aimed at the killer by elementary dispatchers from Dnepropetrovsk. The Malaysian therefore avoided being shot from his route. And he came down a little lower, suddenly the killer dill would not reach the target. And for some reason, he managed to finish off a cannon that only lost its altitude and speed but did not fall after a rocket hit a passenger airliner of this size.
  48. +1
    7 August 2014 16: 20
    American evidence
  49. Air Force Captain
    +1
    7 August 2014 16: 21
    Quote: Manul
    Quote: Uncle
    I'm not special, but looking at the picture in Powell's hands, it seems that she is "photographed" to his photograph.

    And why are you minus ??? laughing

    Yes there is, which would just be remembered, without understanding.
  50. 0
    7 August 2014 16: 32
    At the end of July, the head of the Federal Air Transport Agency, Alexander Neradko, said that a GPS crash was observed in Ukraine on the day of the fall of the Malaysian Boeing. According to him, these are the signals that came from the crews of Russian aircraft that were in that area that day. Neradko argued that it was the failure of the navigation equipment that could lead to a deviation from the course of the aircraft.
    1. 0
      7 August 2014 18: 51
      Ukraine unveils a new version of the crash of the Malaysian Boeing

      “July 17 over the territory of Ukraine, according to the application, made two regular international flights - Malaysian Airlines MAS17 and Aeroflot AFL-2074. At 16:09 in the area of ​​the settlement Novonikolayevka, the routes of these flights crossed. The flight characteristics of these aircraft were almost the same - the Malaysian aircraft flew at an altitude of 10 m at a speed of 100 km / h, and the Russian one at an altitude of 909 m at a speed of 10 km / h, ”said Nalyvaichenko.

      Read more: http://top.rbc.ru/politics/07/08/2014/941650.shtml



      It turns out that the junta confused the Malaysian plane with the Russian one. And when they saw that the "Russian" plane was flying in a strange course, they shot it down.
  51. 0
    7 August 2014 16: 48
    Детский лепет. Пятиклассник и тот умнее нарисует. Видимо по своей "овчинке "-протягивают ножки. Учили их плохо, а еще весь мир хотят поиметь ???? ДЕБИЛЫ-не более. У нас таких УО называли обычно-УМСТВЕННО ОТСТАЛЫЕ. Спецшкола по ним плачет, что в Лесном городке.
  52. +1
    7 August 2014 17: 52
    Ну конечно русские сбили, даже ракета с иллюминатором, а там внутри Гагарин сидит! Вот что значит когда обезьяны до власти дорываются! Ему бы по пальмам лазить, ан нет, мнит себя Боженькой всевышним.
  53. 0
    7 August 2014 18: 12
    Quote: Uncle
    I'm not special, but looking at the picture in Powell's hands, it seems that she is "photographed" to his photograph.

    в руках у него пробирка,перед вторжением в Ирак.
  54. 0
    7 August 2014 18: 34
    Надеюсь, что это только начало...Если наши смогут грамотно разрулить с Боингом и припереть укров то красиво как получится... На многие вещи посмотрят с другой стороны. Вот тут то нарисуется затаившаяся юлька с косой.
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  56. 0
    7 August 2014 19: 03
    Доказательств ни у кого нет и не будет. Ну выяснят, что попал "Бук", что скорее всего и есть так, а дальше что. Как выяснить чей он, с какой стороны был запущен? Чёрные ящики дадут только общую картину декомпрессии и всё.
    Поэтому пока обе стороны будут абсолютно голословно обвинять друг дружку в уничтожении самолёта ис тинный преступник останется безнаказанным. К удовольствия одной из сторон.
  57. 0
    7 August 2014 19: 05
    Так пусть забирают себе в америку всю эту Укрошайку и занимаются там фотошопами и фотожопами..
  58. 0
    7 August 2014 19: 40
    Quote: shinobi
    How and by what the APU Boeing was shot down is secondary. The main reason is. And then, in order to complicate the supply of heavy weapons to the militia through third hands, drawing attention with loud presentations to the borders of the Russian Federation. So I see it now.

    Если это так, то зачем Российские власти с таким упорством зазывают на нашу с Украиной границу ООН и ОБСЕ.И это еще было за долго до падения самолета,как раз эти усилия запад в ООН и блокировал.
  59. 0
    7 August 2014 19: 54
    Если всё это правда то думаю что водитель "Сушки" не успеет потратить заработаное "бабло" и очень даже может что его уже "уволили"...
  60. +1
    7 August 2014 20: 47
    Это становится интересно, америсосы официально признали, что черпали всю информацию о сбитом Боинге из соцсетей. И что это озночает? Что мы немного ошибались но говно у нас на голове это вовсе и не говно а это вовсе и повидло, только пахнет как говно. Псачиха своей охинеей всех отмажет. Очень хочется, когда она несет пургу с трибуны, выскочить сзади и как гревануть ее веслом по горбу. Вот она бы удивилась. А кораблик америсосовский в ЧМ зашел, лезут сукошлюхи к нам , лезут.
  61. +5
    7 August 2014 21: 10
    Братья,не один раз наблюдал запуски Буков,300,400,не суть.Это довольно красивое зрелище сопровождающееся многокилометровым инверсионным следом,не пропадающим минут 10.При современном фотографировании всего и вся мобильными,кто-нибудь из местных обязательно бы снял это ,повторюсь красивое,зрелище.Ведь куча фото всяких летящих,ползущих,толкаемых и переносимых средств вооружения,а тут ничего.Так не бывает,а значит никакого Бука небыло изначально, и это понятно с первых комментариев.СУшка однозначно и все об этом знают.И мы и сбившие Боинг хохлоснайперы, а вот какой Боинг они хотели свалить- это вопрос? stop
  62. RUSLAT
    0
    7 August 2014 21: 55
    Теперь найдут ,, стрелочника", вроде как, летчик СУ-25 был завербован ФСБ России и выполнял личный приказ Путина, отданный ему по телефону..... ПСАКИ расстарается. Вот если бы удалось доказать кто заказчик, шум был бы мировой. Самое обидное все знают заказчика, уже не первый случай, но доказательств мало.......
  63. 0
    7 August 2014 22: 21
    в районе Енакиево сбит украинский истребитель МиГ-29


    По данным руководителя пресс-центра АТО, он был сбит из ЗРК «Бук»


    КИЕВ, 7 августа. /ИТАР-ТАСС/. В районе Енакиево (Донецкая область) в четверг сбит украинский истребитель МиГ-29.

    Об этом сообщила в четверг газета «Украинская правда» со ссылкой на руководителя пресс-центра АТО Владислава Селезнева.

    «Около получаса назад сбит наш истребитель над Енакиево, — заявил он. — Скорее всего, стреляли из зенитно-ракетного комплекса “Бук”».

    По его словам, летчик жив. Сейчас проводится поисково-спасательная операция.

    2 августа представитель Совета национальной безопасности и обороны Украины Андрей Лысенко заявил, что ополченцы сбили украинский беспилотник. По его словам, этом использовался зенитный комплекс «Бук-1М».

    По неподтвержденным данным, на боевом дежурстве у армии Украины в начале военной операции на юго-востоке страны находилось 17 истребителей Су-27, около 35 штурмовиков Су-25 и его модификаций, а также 33 бомбардировщика Су-24, включая модернизированные образцы.
    1. 0
      8 August 2014 18: 00
      Неплохая новость, а то я уже думал, что у укрожопых самолёты закончились ! ! !
  64. 0
    7 August 2014 22: 37
    Америка лжец.
    Но "стадо" мировой цивилизации идет за своим пастырем.
    Полагаю их ждет спасение.
    Желательно или кратер действущего вулкана или пустыня по размерам не менее Сахары.
  65. 0
    7 August 2014 22: 59
    А почему, мы не рассматриваем ВЕРСИЮ попытки покушения на президента России, ведь в это время когда был сбит БОИНГ рядом с ним находился борт президента России. Тем более у двух самолетов есть сходства по фюзеляжу и его окраске.
    Борт номер один и малазийский Boeing 777 пересекались в одной и той же точке и на одном эшелоне. Это произошло близ Варшавы на 330-м эшелоне на высоте 10100 метров. Борт номер один был там в 16:21 мск, малазийский самолет - в 15:44 мск",
  66. +3
    7 August 2014 23: 06
    Kiev and Washington will "photoshop" the red stars on the wings of the Su-25, shot down "Boeing"?

    У этих баранов ума хватит... hi
  67. korablik
    0
    8 August 2014 00: 04
    7 августа Австралия объявила днём траура по жертвам катастрофы «Боинга-777»

    Интересно, как австралийская мразь в лице премьер-министра будет извиняться перед ВВП? Или ерунда, с кем не бывает? Погорячился. Пусть жрет свою баранину Баран. Сборище двуличных, жадных лицемеров,вырожденцев, гомосеков, дегенератов веками сжигавших на кострах своих самых красивых (и наверняка самых умных) женщин под видом колдуний.
    1. 0
      8 August 2014 18: 08
      А, что вам известно из официальных источников о гибели "Курска"? - Практически ничего.
      Но, это не говорит о том, что "верхи" ничего не знают, о том что реально произошло.
      Кому надо знать, тот знает.
      Здесь тема аналогичная.
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  69. korablik
    +1
    8 August 2014 00: 20
    Г-н вальцман, президент Руины требовал от ООН за сбитый боинг объявить Новороссию террористическим сообществом. Пора Руину объявлять госудУрством-террористом со всеми вытекающими. Не будь америкосы заказчиками, они бы уже бы начали бомбить Куев. Интересно, а как ВВП будет развлекаться?
  70. 0
    8 August 2014 00: 21
    А что стесняются ребятки, кого шугаются, сколько можно ждать видео допросов летунов (всяких разных, расстреляных впоследствии), указивка , наверное есть, не выкладывать.....ну ну. Я бы показал мразей, сколько на их счету мирных жителей городов, тем более они бабки за это получали. Выкладывайте, не стесняйтесь.
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  72. Rus Communist
    0
    8 August 2014 01: 25
    американцы читают ВК или зарегалались у Дурова ? )) Хотелось чтобы они мою группу и мою страничку почитали,может у них крыша поедет или наоброт мозги встанут
  73. 0
    8 August 2014 03: 06
    Украина никогда сама не решилась бы сбить международный рейс. НИКОГДА! Приказ о проведении этой спецоперации отдал один известный американский руководитель АТО. Скорее всего и непосредственным исполнителем был иностранный наемник.
    Ну, и соответственно , признать правительство хунты виновной в терракте - это значит возложить всю вину за преступление на США. США этого никогда не сделают. Это политическое самоубийство для США. Хотя им пох.. - армия США кормит свою страну и не наоборот.

    Хотя, госпожа Псаки в порыве откровенности может и проговориться....
    Еще молятся бесстыдники: Господи храни Америку!
  74. 0
    8 August 2014 06: 02
    Сегодня по СМИ прошла информация, что СБ ООН заблокировал проект России о перемирии в месте крушения самолета.
    Американцы с англичанами делают все, чтобы правда о сбитом самолете не стала достоянием общественности.
  75. 0
    8 August 2014 10: 32
    Еще как вот едут ополченцы на 70-ке наши дни
  76. 0
    8 August 2014 10: 37
    А вот едут чеченцы грузия 2008,название одинаково как видете комент вверху,то есть меняют местами что там чеченцы воюют в данное время на стороне ополчения сам видел по CNN
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  78. 0
    8 August 2014 23: 46
    [media=http://www.bbc.co.uk/russian/multimedia/2014/08/140808_v_rusmussen_ukrain
    e_int.shtml]
    Расмуссен - алкаш с одной извилиной, похож на буша младшего. Вопрос с Боингом для него решён. Корреспондент - , допытывается почему НАТО до сих пор не хочет воевать с Россией.
  79. avissbp
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    9 August 2014 08: 54
    Эти из-за большой лужи врут, врали и будут врать, это ИХ суть.

"Right Sector" (banned in Russia), "Ukrainian Insurgent Army" (UPA) (banned in Russia), ISIS (banned in Russia), "Jabhat Fatah al-Sham" formerly "Jabhat al-Nusra" (banned in Russia) , Taliban (banned in Russia), Al-Qaeda (banned in Russia), Anti-Corruption Foundation (banned in Russia), Navalny Headquarters (banned in Russia), Facebook (banned in Russia), Instagram (banned in Russia), Meta (banned in Russia), Misanthropic Division (banned in Russia), Azov (banned in Russia), Muslim Brotherhood (banned in Russia), Aum Shinrikyo (banned in Russia), AUE (banned in Russia), UNA-UNSO (banned in Russia), Mejlis of the Crimean Tatar People (banned in Russia), Legion “Freedom of Russia” (armed formation, recognized as terrorist in the Russian Federation and banned)

“Non-profit organizations, unregistered public associations or individuals performing the functions of a foreign agent,” as well as media outlets performing the functions of a foreign agent: “Medusa”; "Voice of America"; "Realities"; "Present time"; "Radio Freedom"; Ponomarev; Savitskaya; Markelov; Kamalyagin; Apakhonchich; Makarevich; Dud; Gordon; Zhdanov; Medvedev; Fedorov; "Owl"; "Alliance of Doctors"; "RKK" "Levada Center"; "Memorial"; "Voice"; "Person and law"; "Rain"; "Mediazone"; "Deutsche Welle"; QMS "Caucasian Knot"; "Insider"; "New Newspaper"