Ukrainian-Stockholm syndrome: a curved mirror of Slavophobic mythology distorts the landscape

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One of the most common and persistent misconceptions is that we should not get too deep into the affairs of Ukraine, since its people themselves take such interference extremely negatively and condemn us for it. Like, if the residents themselves need such help unnecessarily, then why do we need to be holier than the Pope? The misconception in this case consists primarily in the fact that Russia's policy towards any country in the world, including Ukraine, however harsh it may sound, is far from being primarily based on the opinion of the population of a given territory. Moreover, this opinion can be rudely falsified.



The axiom is that the foreign policy actions of any state should be determined primarily by its own, fundamental interests. They remain in absolute priority, even if they are in a certain contradiction with real or imaginary "interests" of the population of the neighboring power. Our own and, of course, fundamental interest in relation to Ukraine lies in the fact that this territory should never and under no circumstances pose a threat - no military, political or civilization - no one at all. The neutralization of any attempts to create such a threat (especially such brutal and uncompromising as the current American one) is today the alpha and omega of Russian policy in the Ukrainian direction. No NATO troops on the Russian border, no American missile defense systems at a distance of spitting from Russian missile bases, no military alliance between Ukraine and the United States, Russia can not allow under any circumstances. Are the interests of the Ukrainian population important in this sense? Of course. But only to the extent that they do not contradict the above geopolitical imperatives of Russia.

Thus, the infantile reasoning that once the population of Ukraine does not want something, then, therefore, Russia does not need it, is a complete heresy and cannot be considered seriously. Residents of the Kharkiv region, for example, may well be accommodated by the deployment of American medium-range missiles on its territory with the flight time to Moscow for three minutes. In the end, it is for them jobs and good salaries. For today's poor Ukraine - almost manna from heaven. But does this mean that Russia should respect such interests? Of course no! Moreover, in obedience to the instinct of self-preservation, I must do everything to ensure that this never happens.

And if the same Kharkiv region cannot live without NATO missiles, so much the worse for the Kharkiv region. It should be clearly understood by all who are now trying to present something there with the Russian Federation. No attempt to turn Ukraine into a force hostile to Russia can be recognized as “legitimate” by the very fact, despite any legal squiggles. Ukraine can exist either as an organic part of the Russian world, or, at worst, in that restless but relatively safe state for Russia, in which it has been for the last twenty years. Therefore, even those in Ukraine who today sincerely condemn Russia for its allegedly inadequate behavior, should realize their deep wrong and draw proper conclusions from the truth, which says that living well, causing inconvenience to a neighbor, especially inconvenience, is fatal for it dangerous. work out. Well, and if someone, nevertheless, will insist on it, let it not be offended when he "gets drunk" on his own bad head.

Now about another no less popular myth that today is almost on everyone’s lips. It lies in the fact that Russia, even if it wants to support its half-brothers in Ukraine and protect its own interests, in no case should not resort to direct and especially military intervention in the ongoing conflict there. It is motivated, as a rule, as follows:

1. Russia should keep the peace to the last, avoid direct military intervention, because war will bring great misfortunes and losses.

2. The deployment of troops will inevitably lead to an increase in the scale of hostilities, an increase in the number of victims and, as a result, will give rise to a deep and irreversible mutual alienation of the peoples of Russia and Ukraine, putting an end to the possibility of their unity in the foreseeable future.

3. The use of Russian power on the territory of Ukraine will inevitably cause an extremely negative reaction of the West, total economic sanctions on its part and the threat of military confrontation with it.

Not being at this stage a staunch supporter of Russia's direct military participation in the conflict in Ukraine, I nevertheless consider it necessary to caution against any conclusions based on fundamentally wrong messages. In any case, all the above fundamental arguments against the introduction of troops are, in my opinion, at least questionable. And therefore, can not be the basis for making any government decisions.

It is naive to think that Russia at the moment is not directly involved in the Ukrainian war. Accepts, and moreover, the most active, giving New Russia both material aid and passing volunteers there. That is, there is no “Chinese wall” between the current supposedly “peaceful” situation and the state of war. Russia is already in the war. Yes, this war was imposed on her, yes, Moscow did not want her. And yet it is a fact.

Now about the losses. Those dozens of Russian families that have already received funerals from Ukraine for their loved ones will probably not understand if they are told that Russia does not suffer losses in this war. As for the reasoning that it is the input of troops that will increase these losses many times, then there are absolutely no grounds for such conclusions. On the contrary, many military specialists are convinced that it is the current version of the protracted, quasi-civil war in the east of Ukraine is the most bloody and destructive. And it was he who caused the most estrangement between Russians and Ukrainians, because the enemy propaganda unambiguously blames all the endless hardships and deprivations of this war on Russia.

As for the variant with direct and massive entry of Russian troops, that is, there is every reason to consider such a development as the least painful. First of all, because Russia possesses a colossal military superiority over the former Ukraine, and in these conditions, the resistance to the already exhausted in battles, the demoralized former Ukrainian armed forces, most likely, will be very short lived. If at all. Judging by the indiscriminate desertion from the ranks of this terrorized junta army, it cannot be ruled out that in case of a meeting with Russian troops, its personnel with a huge sigh of relief will simply go under their legal and force protection. As for the individual atypical ideological Bandera, they will either be destroyed by their own colleagues, or by local residents with considerable expense to them.

The determination of the West to enter into open military conflict with Russia over Ukraine is zero, even according to the estimates of the Western leaders themselves. And Russia already receives their so-called economic sanctions in full, and something more to expect from these very practical gentlemen is also not worth it. In any case, the same European Union completely excludes the possibility of sanctions impacting the import of Russian gas, which is vital for Europe.

Thus, Russia does not yet resort to the massive introduction of its army into the territory of Ukraine by any means due to the myths described above. The Kremlin, in contrast to the overly agitated public on both sides of the border, is quite adequately assessed by the Kremlin. And for that elementary and reasonably obvious reason that there is absolutely no need for it yet. The Ukrainian army is weakening every day more and more, and the Donbass militia is only getting stronger and delivering more and more sensitive blows to the enemy.

Over twenty years of Russian-Ukrainian separation were used with maximum effect by those external and internal forces that are vitally interested in ensuring that this separation becomes eternal. It was under their “sensitive guidance” that an entire generation grew up, for which Ukraine is the same abroad as, for example, Turkey, and given the greater comfort of the Turkish resorts, even more distant. The close ties of the Russian and Ukrainian regions, the constant mutual visits of millions of relatives, the tremendous common interest in the cultural heritage of a single civilization (residents of Leningrad to Odessa, or Odessans to Moscow) - all this is largely in the past. Today's young Russian knows rather history construction of the Egyptian pyramids, rather than the once famous Odessa Potemkin Stairs. And the fact that the same Odessa, as well as Kherson, Nikolaev, Sevastopol, Yekaterinoslav and a lot of other cities are built from scratch not by some kind of “ukrami”, but by the Russian Empire, only rare Moscow historians are known today.

The current Ukrainian-Russian confrontation produces abundant shoots on such a soil abundantly replenished by mutual oblivion. You can make sure of this, even after a little sitting in Russian or Ukrainian social networks, in which waterfalls of irreconcilable enmity, mutual accusations and unbridled hatred flow. But the problem is also that the conviction of the so-called “Ukrainians” in the universal hostility towards Russia, that they all, from young to old, do nothing that jump on Maidan and yell “moskalyaku to Gilyak”, it becomes more generally accepted point of view. On the basis of which the same fundamental conclusion is made: Russia should not give a damn about Ukraine and forget, let them clear up their own problems there.

It is obvious, however, that such a notion of the inhabitants of a neighboring country is too simplified. The brotherly (or rather, the same) people, represented by millions of our closest relatives, have not gone anywhere. And the fact that now with Ukraine there are mainly hostile speeches, so this, as they say, is just a matter of technology. And above all, the technology of mass propaganda, which today is completely captured by the Bandera-fascist regime and put at the service of American interests hostile to our two powers. Today’s dissenters are “enemies of Ukraine”, “terrorists” and “separatists”, they have either been shut up in jail or intimidated to death with such demonstrative reprisals as “Odessa Khatyn”. And after that, someone else is surprised at the well-organized and carefully filtered flow of hatred coming from Ukraine, and makes on this basis a conclusion about Russia's total hostility to the population of this territory!

We deceive ourselves. Tens of millions of best friends and half-brothers cannot become the worst enemies overnight - there is something wrong here. Why does no one remember about the famous “Stockholm syndrome”, in which hostages taken by terrorists always praise the terrorists, and not those who are trying to free them? In this case, an entire nation was taken hostage, which the terrorists are required to do.

So this myth is also about the primordial and total hostility of the so-called "Ukrainians" to the Russian people, which is why they should not extend a helping hand, as ridiculous as the previous one.

Moreover, it is completely obvious to whom it is beneficial to impose blind hatred and irreconcilable hostility between the two parts of a single whole. Those who are for this whole - the united Russian world - are the mortal enemy. And for many centuries, civilization has become such, and more specifically, the anti-civilization of the West. “Divide and conquer” - this principle has been guiding it since ancient times. That is what they are doing now in relation to Russia and Ukraine, trying not only to sow the deepest discord within our united family, but also to destroy us with the hands of each other. Why, it is also quite obvious: it was the Russian world, as the most non-conciliatory and disinterested, that the Lord God resolutely offered to give truly inexhaustible resources of natural wealth that no one else can and cannot have. For the insatiable West, which from time immemorial has been deprived of this and lived at the expense of plunder of other nations and civilizations, these riches are the most tempting prize. So they try their best. And those of us who, by virtue of ignorance or stupidity, help them in this, in every way supporting the evil myths they spread, actually work on their robbers, facilitating to them the task of finally bringing our family to the ground and settling this person with our insatiable bloodsuckers.

It’s not my idea: when we are united, we are invincible. What happens when this unity is not, we see today.
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  1. master 84
    +6
    6 August 2014 08: 16
    RUSSIANs still break through
    1. +25
      6 August 2014 08: 34
      Quote: master 84
      RUSSIANs still break through




      Only for the beginning, Ukrainians need to be cured of delusions of grandeur and of intoxication by fascism ... Then there will be a severe hangover ...... And only then we (not the first time) will try to be family ....
      1. +17
        6 August 2014 08: 55
        The main problem is that Svidomoites have been composted brains for 23 years. And after the military defeat of the Ukrainian junta, the brains will still be washed. Yes, someone will be happy, but someone will still curse her, even if everything that they have destroyed is rebuilt, their life will be improved, etc., because they want more, shoba bulo, like Europe. It’s also time to understand that the means of control through the war is in last place in terms of efficiency for the long term. Here it is necessary to put pressure on the worldview, but until they (both themselves and with our help) come out of their illusory world, there will be no need to send troops. Therefore, Ukrainians should experience all the hardships of deprivation and a complete scribe in order to realize that neither Europe nor the USA needs them in FIG, that for them they will never become equal, that they will never live the same way as in the West .

        Otherwise, no way.
        1. WKS
          +24
          6 August 2014 10: 24
          The article is correct, but for the middle of the twentieth century. And now in the yard is the second decade of the twenty-first. At least half of the Ukrainian army fighting in New Russia are convinced Ukrainian nationalists. At least half of Ukrainian voters are the same nationalists or supporters of independence. The stubbornness of Ukrainians is widely known. Stubbornness is such a feature of the psyche when a person does not perceive any rational arguments, but is guided in assessing events by internal irrational content. Having conquered Ukraine, we get a forty-millionth mass of embittered people whom Russia has deprived of paradise in the EU. And no matter what propaganda we do there, the West will support this bitterness like tales, but we wanted to give you such a standard of living as in Germany or Sweden. You can’t imagine a worse enemy than a person deprived of happiness. Russia now needs to stand aside and wait until the expectations of heavenly life within the EU are scattered by cold reality. And then all the bases of the West (if they appear by this moment) will have to be surrounded by several barbed wire perimeters. We launched Ukraine and it will not be possible to return it quickly. Patience is needed. We almost missed Russia, if Yeltsin had been at the helm for another five years, the consequences would have been even worse.
          1. +5
            6 August 2014 12: 24
            Quote: wks
            The article is correct, but for the middle of the twentieth century.

            The article is correct for Selivanov.
            If we must again send troops to Ukraine - why did he himself leave there? Why didn’t lead the resistance in the forefront? IMHO only the supply of weapons - it is already possible - sanctions are imposed and so, almost at an accelerated pace.
            While we are doing our best to show our white fluffy, they turn our backs on us, it's time to remind our sworn friends that the Arctic fox is white and fluffy.
            1. 0
              6 August 2014 14: 20
              While we are struggling to show our white fluffy, we are turned backwards

              Well, I would take this opportunity belay
          2. 0
            6 August 2014 14: 43
            Yeltsin and Gorbachev are our EVERYTHING ...
          3. 0
            6 August 2014 17: 51
            Quote: wks
            The stubbornness of Ukrainians is widely known. Stubbornness is such a feature of the psyche when a person does not perceive any rational arguments, but is guided in assessing events by internal irrational content.

            Stubbornness is a Russian trait)).
            Ukrainian, this is venality)).
            So those who are stubborn are ours)).
            It is necessary to agree)).
          4. 0
            7 August 2014 13: 33
            Quote: wks
            Having conquered Ukraine, we get a forty-millionth mass of embittered people whom Russia has deprived of paradise in the EU.

            So forty million? Maybe all the same, less - fifteen million - twenty hostile?
            And why should one hundred million Russians have to cede, and not five million Galitsa?
        2. +2
          6 August 2014 11: 52
          I fundamentally disagree, about 23 years. They have always been like that.
        3. wladimir
          +1
          6 August 2014 13: 07
          I agree that without testing, Ukrainians do not realize that they are threatened with complete destruction in Europe. And they had their great Ukrainian habits since the 20-30s, when they became the "Ukrainian people" and introduced the Ukrainian. language invented in Austria. True, the author of this language in exile in Siberia even before the age of 17, realized his mistakes.
        4. Cadet787
          +3
          6 August 2014 15: 43
          06.08.2014 - 15: 10
          Scandal in Kharkov: the city council awarded the title of “honorary citizen” to a member of the Federation Council of the Russian Federation, Avakov demands the dissolution of “traitors”

          Scandal in Kharkov: City Council awarded the title of “honorary citizen” to a member of the Federation Council of the Russian Federation, Avakov demands the dissolution of “traitors” | Russian spring
          At a session of the Kharkov City Council, which was first led by mayor Gennady Kernes for the first time after the wound, a scandal erupted. At the suggestion of Kernes, the deputies awarded the title “Honorary Citizen of Kharkov” to two Russians at once: businessman Pavel Fuchs - for the development of the Kharkov real estate market, and Alexander Shishkin - for the development of the pharmaceutical industry.
          Particular displeasure of the Svidomo patriots was caused by the person of Alexander Shishkin. The representative of the Khabarovsk Territory in the Federation Council of the Russian Federation, as a member of the Committee on Defense and Security, voted to give President Putin the right to use the armed forces of the Russian Federation in Ukraine and for the annexation of Crimea to Russia.
          Radicals rally under the windows of the Kharkiv City Council building, and Arsen Avakov posts on social networks calls for the dissolution of the "bunch of traitors."
          The faction "Fatherland" in the Kharkov City Council has already appealed to the prosecutor's office with a request to cancel the decision of the deputies.
        5. raven8888
          0
          6 August 2014 16: 35
          Sunjar (1) RU Today, 08:55 AM
          ... will never be equal ...

          My opinion, until ... "we put pressure on the worldview" ..., (the inhabitants of Ukraine) will never ... "leave their illusory world" ... because:
          1. ... "the main problem is that Svidomites have been composted for 23 years" ... and this is a complete generation.
          2. Thinking about lofty matters and brotherly friendship, my toilets in Europe will NEVER. (This is in the case of European integration)
          And ps Russia will blame all problems for any outcome. (And who else?) So while the Ukrainians’ brothers aren’t full, they aren’t enough to get drunk on the square, it’s useless to conduct educational work with them.
          1. +1
            7 August 2014 02: 15
            Quote: raven8888
            ...
            1. ... "the main problem is that Svidomites have been composted for 23 years" ... and this is a complete generation.
            ...
            And ps Russia will blame all problems for any outcome. (And who else?) So while the Ukrainians’ brothers aren’t full, they aren’t enough to get drunk on the square, it’s useless to conduct educational work with them.

            In the meantime, they are "getting drunk" of the Square, another generation of offended but "proud" ukrs may grow up, confident that Russia is to blame for everything.
            I think there’s no need to explain the consequences ...
            So, if you just wait all the time when the situation safely ripens by itself and resolves when the corpse of an enemy swims by, you can wait for it to float past your corpse if it swims.
        6. 0
          6 August 2014 17: 47
          Quote: Sunjar
          The main problem is that the Svidomoites composted their brains for 23 years.

          On May 9 of this year, in a Siberian province, on a live TV broadcast, a girl, talking about her grandmother, who was in German captivity, said: “She was liberated by the UKRAINIAN army ... and her sister - by the American ... "
          And she added sadly: "We always tried to contact relatives, but ..."
          And ... no one noticed anything)).
          1. 0
            7 August 2014 13: 39
            Quote: ctepx
            On May 9 of this year, in a Siberian province, on a live TV broadcast, a girl, talking about her grandmother, who was in German captivity, said: “She was liberated by the UKRAINIAN army ... and her sister - by the American ... "

            And what was the name of this "Siberian province"? Kansas? Or Quebec? The phrase "Siberian province" gives you an American Internet fighter, in Russia they don't say that.
            1. 0
              8 August 2014 08: 14
              Quote: Setrac
              The phrase "Siberian province" gives you an American Internet fighter, in Russia they don't say that.

              And the phrase addressed to you: dolbyduy, how does it betray me?
      2. +21
        6 August 2014 09: 20
        Three mudila in January On the Maidan by the moon, howling like jackals, they ask for outside help. The snow-white ass of Europe, licked to cleanliness, they ask and pray: “Help, we are yours, we are ours! We will give the people and Ukraine as a gift to you! And when everything calms down, we will quietly run away! Walking in lackeys is not scary, because they pay us for it! I am for the euro, damn it, the currency, I’ll sell my soul to the devil! In lackeys it is calmer, you can not suffer with the euro, And what will happen to Ukraine, we sneeze and do not care! ” Three jerks in January on the Maidan under the moon surrendered Nenko Ukraine for currency, for UE!
        1. bda
          bda
          +5
          6 August 2014 10: 00
          Three mudila in January On the Maidan by the moon, howling like jackals, they ask for outside help. The whole backside of Europe, licked to cleanliness, they ask and pray: “Help, we are yours, we are ours! We will give the people and Ukraine as a gift to you! ..

          The verse is just a song !!!
          Only, unfortunately, there were far from three, but much more.
          And among them, many individuals with Russian passports were noticed.
          And they want to give as a gift to the hidden Geyrope (and de facto to those who in the old days were called the "world bourgeoisie"), they want first of all all of our Russia, and not only Ukraine, as an integral part of it.
      3. +3
        6 August 2014 09: 33
        As usual, we ourselves have created difficulties, and now we heroically overcome, and we will overcome, not the first time.
      4. +6
        6 August 2014 10: 10
        No, you just have to start acting and not spare the enemy. Sanctions are for us - to send the whole European Union through the forest and turn off ALL gas. Let them produce it. And do not care about public opinion. We are denied the service of buying leases from them for leasing aircraft, but to send them by the forest and stop paying for leasing and cancel the flight of ALL ALL FOREIGN aircraft (airlines) over the territory of RUSSIA. And then shut off the supply of titanium and other metals to the west, absolutely !!!! Of course, it will become economically worse for us, but not for long, we will restore our aircraft factories, and engineering in order not to depend on Western sanctions. But by the time we all return at least to damage, as it was in the USSR, the west without our raw materials will start riding horses again and the main weapons they will have are bow and arrows, well maybe some spears ......
        1. +1
          6 August 2014 18: 04
          Quote: I am
          And do not care about public opinion.

          Oh, unfortunately.
          The public opinion in Russia, through the financing of NGOs, is owned by the Anglo-Saxons.
          Because the media + crowd = public opinion)).
          And, this is the biggest problem)). Even the dollar pales before "public opinion."
          Moreover, everyone knows that the dollar is cut paper)).
        2. -2
          6 August 2014 18: 52
          Quote: I am
          No, you just have to start acting and not spare the enemy. Sanctions are for us - to send the whole European Union through the forest and turn off ALL gas. Let them produce it. And do not care about public opinion. We are denied the service of buying leases from them for leasing aircraft, but to send them by the forest and stop paying for leasing and cancel the flight of ALL ALL FOREIGN aircraft (airlines) over the territory of RUSSIA. And then shut off the supply of titanium and other metals to the west, absolutely !!!! Of course, it will become economically worse for us, but not for long, we will restore our aircraft factories, and engineering in order not to depend on Western sanctions. But by the time we all return at least to damage, as it was in the USSR, the west without our raw materials will start riding horses again and the main weapons they will have are bow and arrows, well maybe some spears ......

          You, dear, have forgotten that Mr. Putin is an anti-Soviet and liberal. And he and his accomplices are building capitalism, not socialism, which he fiercely hates.

          On the other side, in Dill, the same liberal brotherhood is building its "Ukrainian capitalism", and Russia and Ukraine, Europe and the United States are actively helping to "build" capitalisms, of course, because they are partners!
          In general, the whole "oil painting" is called "The War of Capitalist Predators for the Redivision of Markets." And the murder of the Donbass losers falling under bullets and shells does not affect this process in any way.
          Under capitalism, only the successful survive.

          It's time to call everything in your own words
      5. +4
        6 August 2014 10: 25
        for example, the deployment of American medium-range missiles with a flight time to Moscow of three minutes may well be appropriate

        You cannot guarantee yourself against this, unfortunately. The Poles with the Baltic states have long been demanding such rockets for themselves, they also want to cut money for the hell of a dog. Here measures need to be taken not only and not so much with the underprivileged Russophobic states, but with the empire of lies, evil and stupidity to which these missiles belong. Only, apparently, beatie will determine their consciousness ...
        1. 0
          6 August 2014 18: 06
          Quote: RusDV
          You cannot guarantee yourself against this, unfortunately.

          Move the capital to the middle)).
      6. duke
        +3
        6 August 2014 11: 10
        The population of Ukraine does not think anything, the people are busy with survival, but the local authorities (whoever it is placed) must clearly understand how they can behave with Russia, and how not, they need to develop a reflex, like Pavlov’s dog, they must fight with fear, even with an accidental shot in the direction of Russia, or even not behaving correctly in relation to Russia and understand that no uncle Sam will help ... And in the case of the right behavior, we will see - either give candy, or at least least do not beat half to death ... everything else from the evil one ...
      7. +2
        6 August 2014 12: 59
        Someone said to be family? But what, never, we will not be brothers? Ali memory of you dear, girlish?
      8. 0
        6 August 2014 18: 09
        The introduction of Russian troops into Ukraine is necessary, but in a pinch.
    2. raccoon
      +50
      6 August 2014 08: 38
      1. Ukrainians as a nation do not exist
      2. All consider themselves Ukrainians-deceived Russian.
      3. The Ukrainian language is a deliberately warped Russian with a massive admixture of foreign words.
      4. Deception lasts for more than a century, is aimed at the division of the Russians as a nation, and the separation
      from Russia the ancestral territories - its historical heart.
      5. Every Svidomo Ukrainian-a traitor.
      1. bda
        bda
        +9
        6 August 2014 09: 30
        Could put more advantages - I would not hesitate and put!

        And another quote from the article:
        Russian policy towards any country in the world, including Ukraine, no matter how hard it sounds, is far from first of all based on the opinion of the population of this territory

        Paraphrased:
        SHE (OUR POLICY) AT ALL, SHOULD NOT COME FROM THE OPINION OF THE POPULATION OF UKRIA.
        OUR POLICY SHOULD BECOME FROM OUR AND ONLY OUR INTERESTS, and the opinion of those living on the lands of Little Russia, Novorossiya, the Galician-Volyn land and Chervona Rus separated from us can be taken into account only as a factor (like autumn roadblock, for example, or world oil prices - not forgetting to influence this factor in our favor - how to build good roads instead of lanes, play on the oil market by changing the level of offers, etc.).
      2. +3
        6 August 2014 09: 37
        Dmitry, under each item "Agree", succinctly and to the point hi .
      3. +2
        6 August 2014 09: 45
        Quote: raccoon
        1. Ukrainians as a nation do not exist
        2. All consider themselves Ukrainians-deceived Russian.
        3. The Ukrainian language is a deliberately warped Russian with a massive admixture of foreign words.
        4. Deception lasts for more than a century, is aimed at the division of the Russians as a nation, and the separation
        from Russia the ancestral territories - its historical heart.
        5. Every Svidomo Ukrainian-a traitor.


        Given everything that happens - in your words there is truth ...
      4. 0
        6 August 2014 09: 56
        The introduction of our troops, as if we did not want to avoid this, everything will happen even more expensively, although you can simply destroy the firing points of the nat reptiles of the armed forces of the Armed Forces, go through armored vehicles, then the militia will do everything right, but you need to do this before the cold! a lot.
    3. +11
      6 August 2014 09: 43
      Do not quite understand from the text of the article about the Stockholm syndrome? Come on.

      I repeat my thought.

      Ukrainians spit on us they say empire. However, every concept in this world has the property of acquiring new facets. So now, and under these conditions, this is most likely a compliment for Russia, since it means sovereignty, sovereignty and independence in defending your interests, which can not be said about Ukraine.
      Again empires are of different types, let's try to parse them:
      1. Military. Roughly speaking, a gang of talented and gifted people gathered and gave rise to heat. I exaggerate, but in fact it was the gangs that created the greatest of the empires of Ancient Rome, the kingdom of Tamerlane. Some kind of, but still the same bandit methods, created many national empires, the last of which is 3 Reich.
      2. Trade and financial. Anglo-Saxon horse. And yet, with what kind of blood and sovereignty was given? How many Englishmen outweighed their fellow citizens like vagrants during the enclosure? Stalin in comparison with them is an angel. The empire in its essence was initially hard work and sacrifice, and not at all cookies on the Maidan.
      3. Surprisingly, Russia does not belong to either the first or second type of empires, but about it a little later, about Ukraine. When some peoples in the territory of the former USSR began to return to their roots, they did not take into account how corrupted this might turn out to be. Since in its essence Ukraine was originally the embryo of the first type of empire - Sich, then sometimes the Nazi-Nazi ears stick out. This determines its genesis and mass psychology. So Rome was born, a melting pot from vagabonds appeared (only from the runaway Slavs, the same Russians, we read Solovyov). But Ukraine was late in reaching its historic ball. Alas, claims are to the mechanics of history or to God, but not to Russia, which in many ways was a donor to this nascent civilization. Leave for the sake of Allah or anyone else Ancient Russia alone.
      On the Internet resource "Vzglyad" one of the authors wrote about the national awareness of Ukrainians and that what is happening is nothing else - their national liberation revolution. PANCAKE! How many of them have already been, these revolutions and realizations ?! Which one? How did it end? In all fairness, the author also pointed out that let the revolutionary Ukrainians, in an attempt to try their next national self-awareness, experiment exclusively within the framework of their national area, that is, without Novorossia.
      We continue, Russia is a unique historical phenomenon, apparently because it is not understandable and mysterious for the European world, a phenomenon worthy of careful scientific study.

      I will point out only two phenomenal circumstances:
      1. This is the only northern empire that arose, existed and became strong in harsh climatic conditions (North-Eastern Russia if anyone read the Burkowski zapadents in collaboration with Alexander Bushkov). This left an imprint on the national character. While other circumstances in the national character, Ukrainians are already destroying them.
      2. I don’t know why, but a fact. Maybe the reason is the national character, according to the canons of the genre, Russia was supposed to be under the Cossacks (earhooks, cones), but everything happened the other way around, the Cossacks served Russia. And whoever rode along the Moscow outskirts (Caucasians) would be the same with him. Once again, all claims to the mechanisms of historical development.

      I wish the Ukrainians as soon as possible to get rid of their under-imperialism. As in advertising, to give not yours and sleep peacefully being an average and calm European country.
      1. Vik.Tor
        +2
        6 August 2014 11: 24
        + article, everything is sorted out and everything is the case. You can’t stay away from this conflict, otherwise it can come to us. Silence will not bring any good.
      2. wladimir
        +2
        6 August 2014 13: 12
        It is interesting, but nevertheless, it is recognized that there was Ukraine, as an independent state — there was never such a thing — there was a splinter of the Great Empire, which rejuvenated itself as a center.
    4. +1
      6 August 2014 12: 10
      Quote: master 84
      RUSSIANs still break through

      Today is the 12th post and all without commas, a lot of capsa .....
    5. +1
      6 August 2014 16: 55
      So this myth is also about the primordial and total hostility of the so-called "Ukrainians" to the Russian people, which is why they should not extend a helping hand, as ridiculous as the previous one.

      Yes? But what about the Bandera who worked for the Nazis and killed their own? Like then there were no eggs. I think all the same you are mistaken, Ukrainians are not homogeneous. And Ukraine itself was never a separate state, there was no khanate or kingdom. People lived, Slavs, under different states, Poland, Austria and Russia, who lived where and grabbed it. Like the Germans, literally until the end of the 19th century, the Saxons, Bavarians and Württembergers, Hanoverians and so on lived separately. Bismarck united them, and all became Germans. For ukrov it is better to unite under Russia and be considered Russian, which they are by culture and race.

      Ukrainians. who hate Russians are, and they appeared in 1991, when the Nazis came to power, the descendants of those Banders, and they began to pull the Russian language out of the school curriculum. Now young Ukrainians are at least 25 years old, who have been brought up in a different way to everything Russian, they need to be eradicated for a couple more generations, and if the government is pro-Russian, but where are the guarantees that they will change? the Germans were changed thanks to the victory, if Hitler won, then on our streets "Sieg Heil" would still sound.
    6. 0
      6 August 2014 23: 16
      Be sure to break through! What Brzezinski said: Tear off Ukraine and then a matter of technology.
      It’s a very useful article that clearly explains the political situation. Russia without Ukraine is like a disabled person without a leg. And a cut off leg has covered itself with gangrene in 24 years. But nothing will come and the doctor will heal everyone. And you don’t get killed at all.
  2. +9
    6 August 2014 08: 25
    It is necessary to officially recognize the legitimacy of the current government in Ukraine. And to begin all work to overthrow this power in KIEV.
    1. bda
      bda
      +2
      6 August 2014 09: 38
      cerbuk6155
      It is necessary to officially recognize the legitimacy of the current government in Ukraine. And to begin all work to overthrow this power in KIEV.


      This will be logical only with the simultaneous recognition of the DPR and LPR as states (with the establishment of relations of cooperation and mutual assistance with them at the interstate level) - we will not converge with the current Ukria anyway and we must finish it by all means - if we don’t finish now, we’ll get a headache and a lot of blood for generations to come.
      1. bda
        bda
        0
        6 August 2014 10: 08
        with the current Ukria, we still will not agree

        Excuse me, I will correct myself: "if we get along with the present Ukriya, then only if we are tilted in the same way as our outskirts in the southwest have almost tilted!" - and I don’t want to think about that.
      2. +3
        6 August 2014 10: 47
        This will be logical only with the simultaneous recognition of the DPR and LPR as states (with the establishment of relations of cooperation and mutual assistance with them at the interstate level) - we will not converge with the current Ukria anyway and we must finish it by all means - if we don’t finish now, we’ll get a headache and a lot of blood for generations to come.

        Excuse me, but as whom we will recognize the DNI and LC? Do these republics have full-fledged state institutions? Have a constitution and parliament? About the justice authorities and the code of laws, I’ll be silent for now. Why is the militia not yet reorganized into an army with a single command? War is war, but the most important thing in any state - the Constitution and parliament, the army with one command, the State Bank - must be created yesterday. So far, I see only declarativeness, not reality.
        Maybe I don’t understand something and don’t know, so I will be glad if experts in these matters explain to me.
        1. 0
          6 August 2014 19: 20
          Regarding the lack of power, this is a miscalculation of our officials. There are no local able to organize everything well and to hell with them! Together with the recognition of these states to put their own in all places, and in parliament and the president and ministers. Everything is firmly linked to military-political financial assistance. Yes, it’s difficult, it needs to work very well, but if we need these regions, then we just have to do it .. The trouble is that our elite is absolutely impotent and not capable of such work .. alas .. Everyone hopes that everything itself will resolve somehow. .
    2. +1
      6 August 2014 11: 32
      Quote: cerbuk6155
      It is necessary to officially recognize the legitimacy of the current government in Ukraine. And to begin all work to overthrow this power in KIEV.
      no dick was to recognize the legitimacy of Poroshenko. Until February 15th, a legitimate Ukrainian president would be in Russia.
  3. +6
    6 August 2014 08: 25
    Fushington and London must be destroyed, to the ground !!!!!
    1. Armin
      +3
      6 August 2014 08: 39
      Why trifle? Better to fly to smithereens to Alaska and Texas USA and UK
  4. +2
    6 August 2014 08: 26
    The article flashed about dozens of Russian families who received
    the funeral ... The funeral comes from the military enlistment office ...
    What is the author hinting at? Is he a provocateur? What is hiding behind
    his beautiful, and seemingly correct words?
    Minus article!
    1. Armin
      +9
      6 August 2014 08: 44
      The author probably meant volunteers
    2. +3
      6 August 2014 08: 48
      Quote: AlNikolaich
      The article flashed about dozens of Russian families who received
      the funeral ... The funeral comes from the military enlistment office ...
      What is the author hinting at? Is he a provocateur? What is hiding behind
      his beautiful, and seemingly correct words?
      Minus article!


      I agree. Another article like, "If we don't bring in troops, then Russia is gone."
      1. bda
        bda
        +3
        6 August 2014 09: 51
        mamont5 RU Today, 08:48 ↑

        Quote: AlNikolaich
        The article flashed about dozens of Russian families who received
        the funeral ... The funeral comes from the military enlistment office ...
        What is the author hinting at? Is he a provocateur? What is hiding behind
        his beautiful, and seemingly correct words?
        Minus article!


        I agree. Another article like, "If we don't bring in troops, then Russia is gone."

        A provocation is when the sacred cause of saving the Russian people, the Russian world, and including Russia, is reduced to "sending troops to Ukraine" (right away with the bogey of World War III on this matter).
        It is this song that is now being blown into our ears from the West:
        "Russians! Just try to prevent us from making Anti-Russia from Little Russia! We will then ..."
        Here are some "ours" and pick up: "This is the territory of another country! Let them there themselves! ..", holding a little thought in the mind: "Damn, but if the West takes and closes the Schengen area for us - how are we then without Oktoberfest, but without the December shopping in Europe! - Let us know this Russian world, if all this canoe can afford to hit us, and distract from glamor! "
        1. -1
          6 August 2014 13: 10
          where is Schengen. The introduction of our troops into Ukraine will serve as a pretext for the same actions on the part of our "Western partners", which will lead to the disintegration of Ukraine and its division among several neighboring states, by the way, NATO members.
          There will naturally be no direct clashes between Russia and NATO.
          In addition, for example, are you ready to give Lviv to Poland? Me not.
          1. 0
            6 August 2014 15: 29
            The collapse of Ukraine has actually already taken place and all neighboring countries will try to take part of the territory for themselves. The question is, how much will Russia get?
            1. rodevaan
              0
              6 August 2014 16: 55
              Quote: Alexander 2
              The collapse of Ukraine has actually already taken place and all neighboring countries will try to take part of the territory for themselves. The question is, how much will Russia get?


              - We don’t need someone else’s, but we’ll stand our ground for ours. Let Galitsai trash be taken away. We gee and do not need free ...
              1. 0
                6 August 2014 18: 23
                Quote: rodevaan
                Quote: Alexander 2
                The collapse of Ukraine has actually already taken place and all neighboring countries will try to take part of the territory for themselves. The question is, how much will Russia get?


                - We don’t need someone else’s, but we’ll stand our ground for ours. Let Galitsai trash be taken away. We gee and do not need free ...


                I will quote: Cherchel - "But Lviv has never been a Russian city!"
                Stalin - "And Warsaw was"

                Yalta February 1945
            2. 0
              6 August 2014 18: 19
              Quote: Alexander 2
              The collapse of Ukraine has actually already taken place and all neighboring countries will try to take part of the territory for themselves. The question is, how much will Russia get?

              I suppose Russia should cross everything!
  5. rodevaan
    +2
    6 August 2014 08: 28
    When we are one, we are invincible. What happens when this unity is not there, we see today.

    - Absolutely true thought, which is very well understood and memorized by our enemies - in Scandinavia, in Geyrostan and in Pin Nostan - and it is absolutely constantly not understood by us! Although in theory it should be the other way around. But again we climb with mutton stupidity butting each other!
    Although the enemy is on the other side.
    Eh - until we finally understand this - that we are brothers to each other, and that we must be united and together, and that the enemy is in a completely different direction. Not in the East, but in the West, - we will always have the "MONGOLO-TATAR IGO", and the howl of shells in Slavyansk ... And not over Fashington.
  6. +3
    6 August 2014 08: 30
    I found an article from 2009 about how America will unleash a conflict in Ukraine with an eye on the 3rd world war. An interesting analytics in the light of current events, everything as described in the article began to develop. Especially interesting to read the comments of those years.

    http://newsland.com/news/detail/id/390375/

    By the way, who can tell why the links are not clickable in the message?
    1. +2
      6 August 2014 08: 36
      Quote: BMVIK
      By the way, who can tell why the links are not clickable in the message?

      http://newsland.com/news/detail/id/390375/ Хрен его знает. И вообще,там очередной вшивый экссперт расказывает о том,как Обама начнет воину в Крыму.Вы Псаки эту статью отправьте,полагаю она автор.
      1. +1
        6 August 2014 09: 33
        Psaka - the author of the article? You made me laugh. She can only be a hero of thoughtless jokes. The author - sounds too noble for this duchess.
    2. +2
      6 August 2014 08: 57
      The United States probably hopes that the war will be in Europe and that war will not come to their mainland. I think they need to reconsider everything. If it starts, then they will blaze no less than in Europe. hi
    3. +6
      6 August 2014 10: 03
      Quote: BMVIK
      Found an article from 2009

      I guess I'm only the second who looked at the date of publication of the article. And what does that psaki and others like her? Five years ago, a man hit the bull's eye.
      I liked one comment on the article (again, 2009!):
      "Lord, what are we talking about here ?? !! We are conducting a dispute, mind you, a dispute, with rabid Ukrainians! Who are they in general on the primordial Russian land ?? !! All Russia began with Kiev. Note, Kievan Rus, not Kievan Ukraine. When did they (Ukrainians) appear there at all on our lands ?! It was we who, in a traditionally emotional impulse, allowed them to be. And throughout the history of Russia all stroked them on the head, our lands were distributed according to the generosity of our soul, to which they traditionally answered us hohlyaty stubbornness. On the rights of an older brother, it is high time to take off his pants and flog, so that they remember their history and do not forget their roots. "
      1. bda
        bda
        -1
        6 August 2014 10: 33
        In continuation of your thoughts on the same resource there is still a fresh article "We will never be brothers": http://topwar.ru/55639-nikogda-my-ne-budem-bratyami.html
    4. bda
      bda
      +3
      6 August 2014 10: 23
      I found an article from 2009 about how America will unleash a conflict in Ukraine with an eye on the 3rd world

      And here you enter in the search engine the words "how the third world war will begin" and there will be several hundred thousand articles, which will contain everything: oil, and fresh water, and Afghanistan, and Iran, and Cuba, and North Korea, and Libya, and Syria, and Yugoslavia with Serbia and Kosovo - together and apart, and the Baltics, and Central Asia (formerly "Central") and Transnistria, and Georgia with South Ossetia, and Chechnya (especially if the search is also carried out in English), and the disputed islands in the South China Sea, and Israel, and Jama and Kashmir - for every taste you can find!
      And predictions - mulion! Something must come true! / By the way, you are right about the coolness of reading old comments - you can also add "but if you take and read the old predictions of all our astrologers, and soothsayers!" - here you can still have fun looking at night!
  7. +3
    6 August 2014 08: 31
    Yes, there is no longer a single whole (Russia-Ukraine). And the people of Ukraine are divided with the help of the West and divided for a long, if not forever.
    Inhabitants of the southeast will not forget the murders of civilians (their relatives, relatives, friends), the destruction of cities, bullying both physical and moral over Russians. The inaction of the same West and its direct support to the U.K.-fascists will not be forgotten either.
    It's time to really look at things.
  8. +2
    6 August 2014 08: 35
    Yeah, Ukraine - are we kindred, but not fraternal mutual assistance and reliable support, but a blues (I) long-tempered, easily suggested sister?
  9. +6
    6 August 2014 08: 36
    Russia should act only observing the principles of national interests, not paying attention to the groans and cries of the "civilized" West about the need to respect human rights, international law, humanity, etc. The United States and the entire West easily forget all these concepts when they need to achieve their goal ... The era of mercy will not come for a long time. The interests and security of Russia must be defended in any way!
    1. rodevaan
      0
      6 August 2014 16: 59
      Quote: sever.56
      Russia should act only observing the principles of national interests, not paying attention to the groans and cries of the "civilized" West about the need to respect human rights, international law, humanity, etc. The United States and the entire West easily forget all these concepts when they need to achieve their goal ... The era of mercy will not come for a long time. The interests and security of Russia must be defended in any way!


      - it's high time to go from words to deeds! It has long been clear even to bears in the taiga - that all these "Human Rights", the UN, OSCE, General Secs, Homosexes and other-right-wood-axes - all this is a bunch of pro-Western, about Pin Dos rubbish, which is used by the Evil Empire as a screen cover for their dirty deeds and unleashing chaos and wars.
  10. +5
    6 August 2014 08: 45
    On the night of August 4, 438 Ukrainian soldiers turned to representatives of the FSB border service of Russia with a request to provide them with asylum. They were met in the Rostov region and placed in a refugee camp.

    According to the representative of the Foreign Ministry, Maria Zakharova, the board of the Ministry of Defense, which was heading there, could take with it about 30-40 journalists, RIA Novosti reported. In her opinion, realizing how important it is for journalists, especially foreign ones, to communicate with representatives of the Ukrainian armed forces, the Foreign Ministry suggested inviting a group of foreign correspondents to the Rostov Region.

    “Within an hour, there were people under 40 ... In addition to the Bloomberg agency, not a single journalist of the American media,” Zakharova wrote in her blog on the Echo of Moscow website.

    According to her, American journalists did not go, citing "various technical reasons." Among the media that, according to Zakharova, refused to go to the Rostov region, CNN, The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Christian Science Monitor. A Reuters correspondent, Zakharova noted, signed up, drove to the airport, but halfway through his mind changed his mind and did not fly.



    Original article: http://russian.rt.com/article/44092#ixzz39aFjtaMm Therefore, they probably refused to go, because later Psaki would always say that they have no data.
    1. +5
      6 August 2014 08: 49
      Quote: Lukerya Weaver
      Therefore, they probably refused to go, so that later Psaki would always say that they have no data.

      + laughing And in Ukraine itself it will soon be so wassat
      1. +2
        6 August 2014 09: 46
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And in Ukraine itself it will soon be so

        The modern sequel "PrAffesor Dowell's Head" in a kaklyatsky version "... laughing
    2. zzz
      zzz
      +1
      6 August 2014 09: 32
      Quote: Lukerya Weaver
      According to her, American journalists did not go, citing "various technical reasons." Among the media that, according to Zakharova, refused to go to the Rostov region, CNN, The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Christian Science Monitor. A Reuters correspondent, Zakharova noted, signed up, drove to the airport, but halfway through his mind changed his mind and did not fly.


      Here it is, Western democracy! AFRAID! And then kicked out of state for true info!
    3. bda
      bda
      +1
      6 August 2014 10: 27
      American journalists did not go ... to the Rostov region, ...


      ... so that later Psaki as always said that they have no data.


      Just psaki then psaknet that located thousands of kilometers from Ukraine, the Rostov region is not of interest to visit.
    4. +2
      6 August 2014 11: 44
      Quote: Lukerya Weaver
      According to Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova ...

      Quote: Weaker Lukerya


      “Within an hour, there were people under 40 ... In addition to the Bloomberg agency, not a single journalist of the American media,” Zakharova wrote in her blog on the Echo of Moscow website.

      Why does the representative of the Foreign Ministry have his own blog on the Echo of Moscow website?
  11. 0
    6 August 2014 08: 51
    Quote: raccoon
    1. Ukrainians as a nation do not exist
    2. All consider themselves Ukrainians-deceived Russian.
    3. The Ukrainian language is a deliberately warped Russian with a massive admixture of foreign words.
    4. Deception lasts for more than a century, is aimed at the division of the Russians as a nation, and the separation
    from Russia the ancestral territories - its historical heart.
    5. Every Svidomo Ukrainian-a traitor.

    6. Each Svidomo Ukrainian must be shot !!!!
  12. +4
    6 August 2014 08: 51
    raccoon
    1. Ukrainians as a nation do not exist
    2. All consider themselves Ukrainians-deceived Russian.
    3. The Ukrainian language is a deliberately warped Russian with a massive admixture of foreign words.
    4. Deception lasts for more than a century, is aimed at the division of the Russians as a nation, and the separation
    from Russia the ancestral territories - its historical heart.
    5. Every Svidomo "Ukrainian" is a traitor.
    I’ll add to this post, the state of Ukraine, within its real borders, until 1945 ... never existed ..
  13. +1
    6 August 2014 08: 56
    "We are deceiving ourselves. Tens of millions of best friends and half-brothers cannot become bitter enemies overnight - something is wrong here. Why no one remembers the famous" Stockholm syndrome ", in which hostages taken by terrorists always praise the terrorists, and not those who are trying to free them? In this case, a whole nation was held hostage, which is forced to do what the terrorists demand of it. "
    70 years old, in Soviet textbooks there were drawings (and not only) of the peoples of the USSR, all 70 (4 generations) years there were: Russians, Belarusians, Ukrainians. Russophobia was thrown onto this fertilized soil in the 90s, which gave the young generation especially active sprouts. Probably the same thing would happen if they created the republics (since the Soviet Union appeared), for example, central Russia and Siberia, and played the same card.
    In general, the observation is correct, and the people are hostages and the origins of such behavior is fear.
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  15. +3
    6 August 2014 09: 02
    why should our guys fight for Ukraine when their men run to us hiding in sanatoriums? normal men took the guns and protect their homeland and do not sit there and do not wait for handouts from Russia to have a drink in local cafes ..
  16. +4
    6 August 2014 09: 04
    It is written correctly, only one essential point has been missed ... A similar policy of the West has become possible due to corrupt elites in Russia and Ukraine.
  17. +5
    6 August 2014 09: 06
    InoSMI: The "Deal of the Century" between the Russian Federation and Iran nullifies the sanctions of the West - we did make a deal with Iran. "The head of the Russian Ministry of Energy, Alexander Novak, noted that the agreement does not violate international obligations and is important in the light of current events. The publication RT reminds that at the beginning of this year the White House said that reports of Russian-Iranian talks are an issue" of serious concern ".
  18. +11
    6 August 2014 09: 10
    I am from Donbass, my father is Voronezh, my mother is Ukrainian, but my homeland is Donbass, it’s not a good idea to call it Ukraine. Although at school, because of the Russian surname, they teased katsa.pom, until he filled everyone with "shirim" faces, then they began to respect.
    The people there, as elsewhere, are traitors, there are quite decent people. My late grandfather by the name of Dubova, at the age of 21, was twice awarded the Order of the Red Star, the second he received for breaking the Hans defense near Budapest where he lost his leg, but the tank pulled out of the battle.
    I agree with the author that brainwashing was successful there and the Russian political elites are to blame. On the issue of assistance, including military, it was necessary immediately after the Crimea to strangle Svidomo!
    Lugansk is in ruins, like many other cities and villages of the Motherland, winter is ahead and nobody except Russia will help people in the Donbass, Kiev does not need them.
    But in order to help, it is necessary to establish control whether public or unspoken over the territory of Donetsk and Lugansk regions, otherwise in my opinion ....
  19. +5
    6 August 2014 09: 17
    Who reads ukronosti, that in a circus does not laugh!

    The Pechersk District Court of Kiev ruled to “forcibly deliver” Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu to the Ukrainian capital for arrest. This was announced by the speaker of the General Prosecutor's Office Yuriy Boychenko.

    Similar measures have been taken with respect to LDPR leader Vladimir Zhirinovsky, Communist Party leader Gennady Zyuganov, as well as Chairman of A Just Russia Sergey Mironov and businessman Konstantin Malofeev.
  20. +2
    6 August 2014 09: 21
    Weapons and ammunition through private structures. And money through them. Already possible. Let the oligarchs who have suffered from sanctions be offended, and tossed.
  21. pahom54
    0
    6 August 2014 09: 22
    One must always be ready for war.
    In this, today's case - especially.
    The author tried in his article to explain that we are one people, that we must live together ... With this I agree.
    But yesterday I went to the polyclinic for insulin by taxi (for 6 years now I practically haven't left the apartment), and the taxi driver was a young guy, 33-35 years old ... When I told him where to go, he answered me; "And I don't know where it is ...". In short, it turned out that this is a refugee from the Luhansk region ...
    Well, we got into a little conversation ... I told him - "Why are you here and not there?" ... And he told me: "Do I need it ???" ...
    Yesterday or the day before yesterday, a certain Vadim reproached me for provoking a troll and so on ... And here he is, a living "apricot" who escaped from the Luhansk region in his white Audi, receiving 800 rubles a day from the Russian government, not willing to go to the job offered to him and moonlighting as a private driver ... As he himself said: "Why should I go to work in production, when I earn from 2 to 5 thousand a day as a driver ..."
    In general, because of this "nezalezhnaya" we ended up on the eve of a war with almost the whole world, but they don't care ...
    I don’t want our guys to perish in this new war because of people who have not imagined themselves ... Russia has suffered so many wars in its historical century as no people have survived ...
    And it’s not clear to whom to die ...
    And the outskirts had to be bent for a long time, but we are all trying to comply with some international standards ... And they, the so-called norms, have long been gone !!!
  22. +2
    6 August 2014 09: 22
    Quote: SS68SS
    Quote: master 84
    RUSSIANs still break through




    Only for the beginning, Ukrainians need to be cured of delusions of grandeur and of intoxication by fascism ... Then there will be a severe hangover ...... And only then we (not the first time) will try to be family ....


    Khokhlov from delusions of grandeur will cure the coming winter.
    1. +3
      6 August 2014 13: 17
      on the expenditure side of the new budget. 11,038 billion UAH go to war. In particular, 9 billion 100 million for the continuation of the war, and 1 billion 900 million for the restoration of what was destroyed by the war. 1,8 billion went to the capital, so that the "BLOW" in the Rada did not get upset and supported all the innovations of the Cabinet.

      That they decided to cut back. Firstly, due to the fact that children in Ukraine are already healthy, strong in spirit, so to speak, their recovery and relaxation will now cost the country less by 224 thousand hryvnias

      . Children with tuberculosis were cured, it seems. The air of revolution put them on their feet. There is no other way to explain the cutback in financing their sanatorium treatment by 19 million 197 thousand. I can’t. As you know, the main thing is not treatment, but diagnosis, because it allows you to identify the disease in the early stages.

      So, the costs of experimental types of diagnostics (that is, those that have long become commonplace in the civilized world) are now cut by 3 million 640 thousand.

      Medical treatment, rehabilitation and sanatorium support for the personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, veterans of military service and members of their families, war veterans was cut by 10 million UAH.

      I would call this innovation “From a grateful state to soldiers.”

      Interior Ministry officials also behaved badly in the winter, so almost 30 million less are now allocated for their medical care. Or do not be sick, or look for "alternative ways of earning." With retirees - in general a disaster.

      Apparently, they are getting rid of the "ballast". For the reduction of the article "Covering the deficit of funds of the Pension Fund of Ukraine for the payment of pensions" by 976,9 million UAH. I, again, cannot logically explain.

      As well as the castration of subsidies for the payment of pensions and allowances in the amount of 1 billion (!) 90 million will be an excellent incentive for further stay on mortal land for those who receive their $ 100 pension.

      A few war veterans and victims of Nazi persecution cut one-time help by 49,4 million hryvnias. With the "Nazi persecution" something is spinning in the language, but I will not write.

      People with disabilities in the right Spartan society, where people are so harsh that they live without hot water, and in some cities without light, are also superfluous. Therefore, the wise Cabinet of Ministers slightly reduced the provision of the Fund for Social Protection of Disabled Persons - by 1,679 million UAH With children, patients and people with disabilities, they decided that the environment remained.

      The Chernobyl program to maintain a safe state in exclusion zones was cut by 28 and a half million, environmental measures by 334,732 million, and forest protection by 72,7 million.

      By the way, do you know that people who have reached enlightenment go to theaters only for little need? I went in - I went out. Therefore, support for national theaters has been cut by 11,841 million hryvnias.

      There are budget items, on the contrary, gained weight. For example, 264 million is allocated for loan repayments, which were allocated for EURO 2012.

      Imagine restructuring them did not work. It is necessary to repay money from the budget. 13,532 million more was spent on “leadership and management in the field of economic development and trade”. An additional 4,5 million was allocated for “Statistical Observations and Censuses”, as well as “Survey of Household Living Conditions”.

      Apparently, these 4,5 million for such important events borrowed from 19 million that were not received by tuberculosis children.

      And now the extravaganza. 198 million more than planned were allocated for the functioning of the diplomatic institutions of Ukraine abroad, as well as for “expanding the network of property of Ukraine for the needs of these institutions”.

      I am sure there will be hot water in these institutions, but there will be no children of patients, along with pensioners. Because the weak and unhealthy should not interfere with the strong and the happy.

      Happy that ZDOBULI .... I am ashamed that I am Ukrainian.
      1. bullet
        0
        7 August 2014 02: 30
        eh, to go back half a year ago, to disperse this horseradish Maidan to hell with dogs, and don’t bother living with Yanek! that would be great! is not it?
  23. +5
    6 August 2014 09: 23
    Everything is spoken in a negotiated manner! And about should, should not - Ukraine, this is the sphere of our stratigraphic and state, centuries-old interests! The roots of Russian statehood, from baptism lie there and if necessary, and if other options fail, then it’s not just necessary, but it is absolutely necessary to use all the forces and means at our disposal to restore the status quo on the native Russian lands! Despite any screams from the world community, Russophobic sentiments in Ukraine itself or the inertia of the local population!
    It is enough that the criminal foreign policy of Gorbachev, Shevarnadze, Yeltsin, Kozyrev in the late 80s and early 90s led to severe defeat and loss of influence in the vast Slavic territories! Territories in which respect for Russia was won later with the blood of our ancestors for centuries! And it was sold overnight!
    And so they almost turned into huge Somalia, let the local pirates forgive me, in Europe - without respect, the economy, the army ... It is time for the world to remember that there is Russia!
  24. Arh
    -1
    6 August 2014 09: 25
    RUSSIAN RACE HOW I LOVE YOU !!!
  25. +2
    6 August 2014 09: 35
    During the Ukrainian "history" I observe how people's opinions change without any special psychological treatment. At first, all the forums were overwhelmed with shouts: "Forward to Kiev! Let's cut off the heads of the fascist hydra!" Then the shouts were replaced by cautious: "Maybe not necessary? Maybe, somehow in a cunning way?" Now it is almost monolithic: "You cannot bring in troops, otherwise the third world war will begin!" How easily we, sitting at the computer in a peaceful country, change our mind to the opposite! And we do not understand that we are simply being led by the nose, persuading and urging "public opinion" to please the corrupt oligarchic clan, which CATEGORALLY does not want to protect the interests of Russia, defending its accounts in Western banks and villas on the seaside. The oligarchs are faced with a choice: to support Putin with their finances or to get rid of him by placing some loyal to the West (a la Medvedev) as president. And Putin understands this very well. And he does not dare to act. But he also understands (and he is far from a stupid person) that he cannot endlessly drag on, the country will be crushed by sanctions in any case.
  26. +1
    6 August 2014 09: 41
    It’s time for the Americans to repay them with their own coins for the collapse of the USSR-DISSOLVE THEM UNDER THE STATES, TO ESTABLISH A CIVIL WAR IN TEXAS OR ALASKA. It's time to start !!!
  27. +2
    6 August 2014 09: 47
    Demonstrative steps in the form of exercises no longer affect anyone. Everyone (and Ukraine) understands that this is a fiction, and things will not go beyond the demonstration of biceps. Therefore, they begin to push us in all directions, setting small mongrels, like Moldova, against Russia. We are struggling to show peace, issue warnings (three hundred and thirty-fourth, serious and last), but they just laugh in the face. We refused state support for New Russia, even with money _ if only there was no war! But where is she going to get away from us !? In fact, we were offered an ultimatum: either we will change the president and the course towards strengthening the country and we will vegetate in the Gaidar-Chubais swamp, or sooner or later we will have to defend our independence with arms in hand! And while we have such unfriendly countries as Ukraine on our borders, we will not be allowed to live and develop. I wrote here in May that troops cannot be deployed. In May it was impossible. Seychach - NECESSARY!
  28. +1
    6 August 2014 09: 49
    And why look back at someone. Russia goes its own way, according to its nature, its attitude ... We will be One - we will be strong !!! But we must be united first of all in our homeland, in Russia! And then both brothers and sisters will reach us. They already drank dermocracy, hypnosis of pseudo-freedom gradually subsides. It’s a pity that only trouble unites us and the past is quickly forgotten ... But nobody cleaned the rake ... - you need to carefully look under your feet. We are not to be optimistic - we are not so worried. The truth is on our side. Russia to be! And the Lord God will help us !!!
  29. Marisat
    0
    6 August 2014 09: 49
    Article minus. Nonsense. such friends are no better than enemies.
    Beautifully written, but nonsense. no matter how I love and respect my sister / brother ...
    Just imagine yourself in this situation.
  30. +2
    6 August 2014 09: 52
    Our leadership is so polite, to disgust. Susyuka with every bastard until he gets something serious. Of course, crossing the line of dictatorship and normal power is very easy, and staying on it is extremely difficult. But to endure when they spit frankly in the face is embarrassing, at least.
    The illegitimacy of the junta is obvious. And our leadership is bending over the United States in this matter. Europe can be ignored, everything is under their command there. They don’t dare to pickle. After all, it is clear enough to any rational person that there is a war with Russia. Long-standing war and stubborn. And politeness is perceived as weakness. Stop showing weakness. NSS understand only power.
    And there are already options to prove to them, even without military action, that they are "wrong": BRIGS, an agreement with China. But it's so slow, and people are dying!
  31. 0
    6 August 2014 09: 55
    Nothing, but where did the reports from Strelkova go?
  32. +2
    6 August 2014 09: 58
    It is naive to think that Russia at the moment is not directly involved in the Ukrainian war. It accepts, and moreover, is the most active, providing Novorossia with both material assistance and passing volunteers there.
    If so, then why do we hear in our news from the leadership of Novorossiya that if the punitive forces have problems with volunteers, then the militias have problems with weapons and supplies? Where is this statement from Strelkov, - "The Minister of Defense of the Donetsk People's Republic Igor Strelkov told about the great material difficulties of the militia (Source: http://rusvesna.su/news/1407267844)"? How long can you justify yourself, the Yankees have pinned themselves from across the ocean and are in charge in Kiev, blatantly and cynically accusing Russia of everything, along with their newly-minted Mazepa, and we are all puffing out and embarrassed to directly declare our national interests at our border. If you cannot enter troops, do not enter, but recognize Novorossiya and Russia's right to its security and its national interests.
  33. RUSLAT
    +2
    6 August 2014 10: 09
    At the heart of any crisis is money, and while this "golden calf" will beckon wars. The West is head over heels in debt, for the US and the EU every day, a step towards financial collapse and disintegration of the state. for a miracle, they say the blacks will save America, bummer ...
  34. 0
    6 August 2014 10: 12
    It is correctly written and there is one subtext, start a war faster. Ukraine is another state, it must solve its problems on its own. And Russia should not be likened to the evil empire and lies of the United States, which are ready to send troops into any country and kill civilians calling them terrorists. The ordering raised the bar, they realized that the fool would no longer crawl through. Forum users beware, the fifth column does not sleep.
  35. +2
    6 August 2014 10: 16
    Personally, I have two hands for what is written in the article. In 1991, when we were disconnected, we all thought it was a formality, only to reassure the national elites and just nationalists. Like, they will calm down and everything will become as it was. But over the years, the enemy has not lost time. The worst propaganda began, aimed at pitting all the former peoples of the USSR, and the Russian people were especially slandered in the republics, which shit they did not hang on the Russians. Sponsors appeared, such as independent public organizations, which began to allocate money to poor republics for textbooks for children, it is clear who pays the money, he corrects these textbooks, and there praise of democracy and the bazaar, and the shame of Russia and the bloody gebe. Young people are embarrassed by their history, Russians are embarrassed that they are Russians. All this urgently needs to be fixed.
  36. 0
    6 August 2014 10: 20
    <<< Russia's policy towards any country in the world, including Ukraine, no matter how harsh it sounds, by no means primarily should be based on the opinion of the population of a given territory. Moreover, this opinion may be grossly falsified. ......
    Infantile arguments about the fact that since the population of Ukraine does not want something, then, therefore, Russia does not need it either, are sheer heresy and cannot be considered seriously. >>>
    The land on which the Russian civilization was born, for which many generations of Russians have shed a myriad of blood CANNOT be given to Western civilization, the enemies of the Russian world, who for centuries have hatched a plan to conquer or destroy it, to turn it into an anti-Russian outpost, and this is only on the grounds, that they managed, with the help of a long-term impact on the consciousness of people living on this land, to turn them into Ivanov, who do not remember their kinship, into, supposedly, a special "great nation" (all the difference of which, in reality, is in the Ukrainian synthetic language), a "nation" that cannot realize its "greatness" and the legal right to a beautiful life (as in Europe) only because of the Russians, because of the "mos ... lei", who are absolutely IN ALL to blame and therefore should be imprisoned to "gilyaku"! Not an inch of Russian land to the enemies of Russia! And the ideological mistakes made in "working with the population", which made it possible to raise a population of Banderlog among Russians, will have to be treated with the help of physiotherapy!
  37. -1
    6 August 2014 10: 24
    We do not need any "brothers" ... Moreover, such.
  38. 0
    6 August 2014 10: 35
    "Why should we be holier than the Pope?"

    I would argue about the sanctity of the papacy and the concrete. How many millions of bastards killed and unleashed wars. Well, I saw 2 popes, old lane dunas, who controls them? That is the question.
  39. sega72
    0
    6 August 2014 10: 42
    Quote: Weaker Lukerya
    On the night of August 4, 438 Ukrainian soldiers turned to representatives of the FSB border service of Russia with a request to provide them with asylum. They were met in the Rostov region and placed in a refugee camp.

    According to the representative of the Foreign Ministry, Maria Zakharova, the board of the Ministry of Defense, which was heading there, could take with it about 30-40 journalists, RIA Novosti reported. In her opinion, realizing how important it is for journalists, especially foreign ones, to communicate with representatives of the Ukrainian armed forces, the Foreign Ministry suggested inviting a group of foreign correspondents to the Rostov Region.

    “Within an hour, there were people under 40 ... In addition to the Bloomberg agency, not a single journalist of the American media,” Zakharova wrote in her blog on the Echo of Moscow website.

    According to her, American journalists did not go, citing "various technical reasons." Among the media that, according to Zakharova, refused to go to the Rostov region, CNN, The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Christian Science Monitor. A Reuters correspondent, Zakharova noted, signed up, drove to the airport, but halfway through his mind changed his mind and did not fly.



    Original article: http://russian.rt.com/article/44092#ixzz39aFjtaMm Therefore, they probably refused to go, because later Psaki would always say that they have no data.
    What kind of journalists went? Previously, they were ready to sell their souls for the hot news, but now representatives of 2 ancient professions were grinding.
  40. +1
    6 August 2014 10: 46
    In the summer of 2013, during a road trip in Scandinavia, this photo was taken in the capital of Sweden, Sweden. Pennants on the masts have the colors of the STATE FLAG OF UKRAINE !!!
  41. +3
    6 August 2014 10: 53
    "And the fact that the same Odessa, as well as Kherson, Nikolaev, Sevastopol, Yekaterinoslav and a bunch of other cities were built practically from scratch not by some" ukrami ", but by the Russian Empire, today is known only to rare Moscow historians." - I fundamentally disagree with this! More than one generation of Russians lives and lives who know their history enough and do not write them off. They were and will remain bearers of this knowledge no matter what!
  42. +2
    6 August 2014 11: 35
    The author is 99% right! I fully support! BUT!!!! To start a military campaign, it is necessary that the bulk of the "calm" regions of the so-called Ukraine, FULLY, on their own skin, feel all the "delights" of the new government with their Gryo ... BANA EUROPEANITY !!! We need WINTER and HUNGER !!! Yes, that's so fierce! Then the Russian troops and the power of the Oligarchs from the Russian Federation will seem like God's grace! Now, except for those areas where there is a real war, Ukrainian citizens to change their oligarchic was-dlo for the same oligarchic W-DLO from the Russian Federation, there is no point! None at all! These citizens should get their fill of that very EUROPEANITY! THE PEOPLE WERE THEIR RULERS !!! Ukrainian citizens must fully drink the cup of their bestial inaction and indifference to their own fate! And only after that, the main part will remember that they, in fact, are not citizens of a mythical artificial state, but there are RUSICH and the heirs of the origins of the land RUSSIAN !!! They forgot it, they played EUROPEANITY. Woe to them on their heads! THE EARTH ITSELF takes revenge on the traitors !!! The same applies to "dear Russians"! I am sure that our ethnos will have to pay for all that indifference to the fate of the HERO PEOPLE, which has been shown since the collapse of the USSR! And the "gifts" of fate have already been in store for us - not brave! THE PEOPLE WERE THEIR RULERS !!!
  43. _Alien_
    +1
    6 August 2014 11: 40
    It’s not my idea: when we are united, we are invincible. What happens when this unity is not, we see today.

    gold words. repeatedly confirmed in practice
  44. Andrey82
    0
    6 August 2014 11: 53
    In the meantime, VVP is waiting, as Yanukovych at one time and Nicholas II, too, by the way, and builds "cunning plans" his Western "partners" with might and main start organizing a civil war in Russia and its "federalization (collapse) with the full connivance of the tsar, demonstratively not touching hundreds of foundations and non-profit organizations with Western money leading a policy of destroying Russia Such are the "cunning plans"!
    1. Andrey82
      0
      6 August 2014 11: 56
      http://el-murid.livejournal.com/1953665.html#cutid1
      Here in the appendage - the process has begun and we will be pitted already with each other without dirtying the white Masonic pens. It was necessary to have all the trump cards in his hands in March and incompetently fucked everything in 3-4 months. It was necessary to try very hard.
  45. +3
    6 August 2014 11: 56
    The axiom is that the foreign policy actions of any state should be determined primarily by its own, fundamental interests. They remain in absolute priority, even if they are in a certain contradiction with real or imaginary "interests" of the population of the neighboring power. Our own and, of course, fundamental interest in relation to Ukraine lies in the fact that this territory should never and under no circumstances pose a threat - no military, political or civilization - no one at all. The neutralization of any attempts to create such a threat (especially such brutal and uncompromising as the current American one) is today the alpha and omega of Russian policy in the Ukrainian direction. No NATO troops on the Russian border, no American missile defense systems at a distance of spitting from Russian missile bases, no military alliance between Ukraine and the United States, Russia can not allow under any circumstances. Are the interests of the Ukrainian population important in this sense? Of course. But only to the extent that they do not contradict the above geopolitical imperatives of Russia.

    I repeat: "Our own and, of course, fundamental interest in relation to Ukraine is that this territory should never, under any circumstances, pose a threat - neither military, nor political, nor civilizational - at all." The author does not call for “to love your neighbor as yourself”, Russia should fight against threats and challenges from an external enemy, and brotherly love on the third: “Are the interests of the Ukrainian population important in this sense? Certainly. But only to the extent that they do not contradict the above geopolitical imperatives of Russia. " All the arguments: "the inhabitants of the southeast must defend themselves," "we must not shed blood for Novorossiya," etc., from the evil one.
    New Russia is an outpost of Russia and the Russian world, defeat there, the beginning of the death of Russia.
  46. Past_ Crocodile
    +1
    6 August 2014 12: 17
    The article is an unambiguous and unconditional plus. I always thought and spoke the same way. In a word, the Author write ischo.
  47. +1
    6 August 2014 12: 34
    The article is controversial, the discussion is in full swing, the opinions are polar, I personally think that it is necessary not to weaken attention to the rebellious Ukraine, at the same time, conduct our course in Belarus, or even there is already fermentation
  48. -1
    6 August 2014 12: 58
    The Ukrainian army is weakening more and more every day, and the Donbass militia is only growing stronger and inflicting more and more sensitive blows to the enemy.


    I would not bet on the militia. Russia will still have to send troops to all of New Russia. But not for the purpose of secession, but for the creation of the NPR within Ukraine. And only in this case we get a neutral, not hostile, Ukraine.
    1. 0
      6 August 2014 15: 05
      New Russia will remain part of Ukraine only if Ukraine becomes part of Russia.
  49. SAVA555.IVANOV
    +1
    6 August 2014 13: 04
    The Baptists came to power in Ukraine, so we have what we have. You would have looked at these organizations in Russia before it was too late.
  50. +1
    6 August 2014 13: 25
    I agree with the conclusions of the article. I also think that the introduction of troops will not strengthen, but stop the bloodshed. Let there be a lot of noise, but it will be easier for everyone, because they won’t fight with Russia, because they didn’t fight for Georgia, and we didn’t fight for Yugoslavia. And why? yes, because nuclear powers do not fight each other. And the unpunished executions of the Russian population near Russia is an absolutely impossible thing, and if it is possible, something is wrong with us and so much that it causes great concern and distrust. And what could be worse than distrust of the commander-in-chief in a critical situation?
  51. -5
    6 August 2014 13: 31
    In 1979 they talked about missiles in Afghanistan. If it weren't for us on time, there would have been US missiles there. It is unknown, but it is doubtful whether there would have been missiles there or not, because... But the United States has been the sole master in Afghanistan since 2001. Exactly 13 years old. But there were no missiles even close there. It is not known what kind of dividends the USSR received from Afghanistan at that time for its troops, the war and generous assistance with the introduction of the local population to civilization and the ideals of socialism, except for tens of thousands of young children killed and maimed, at the age of 18 - 20 left without legs, without arms, and ahead another whole life for such young people... And the USSR came much closer to its own collapse thanks to the unnecessary war and the notorious missiles. Now they are focusing on the Ukraine-US missiles theme. A very convenient, albeit old fable about rockets. Finland at one time absorbed the values ​​of the Russian world for 108 years and quickly became a quiet and loyal Chukhon outskirts of Russia, which, however, did not prevent it, after 23 years of independent brainwashing, from saying a decisive “No!” and provide not so feeble resistance to the neighboring Russian-Soviet world. 4 million population of Finland and 180 million population of the USSR. 45 times the difference! I.V. Stalin even had to urgently recall military leaders from prisons and prisons, because there were no sensible ones at hand. So, you need to be more careful when throwing hats at crests-harem-eaters-galushka-eaters...They are not like that, and not even like that at all, mediocre and helpless monkeys...
    1. +1
      6 August 2014 13: 44
      Now they are focusing on the Ukraine-US missiles theme. A very convenient, albeit old fable about rockets.


      Of course, you will know better whether the United States will deploy missile defense in Eastern Ukraine or not. And we are sitting here in a den, we don’t know and we don’t know.
  52. +2
    6 August 2014 14: 47
    We are categorically against such a hasty return of the killers to their homeland.
    Complete nonsense. Let them do something in the Russian Federation - work, listen to the news. And find out which of them is responsible for the deaths of civilians. And this is some kind of undisguised support for the Junta.
  53. 0
    6 August 2014 15: 01
    It seems to me that Ukrainians say all this nonsense about Russian aggression not because they believe in it, but because they are afraid that they will be listened to and punished if they do not say so.
  54. 0
    6 August 2014 16: 55
    But I disagree with the author of the article. Perhaps, of course, I’m mistaken, but it seems to me that the arguments presented in the article are more suitable for the Yankees than for us. Moreover, the author cites three factors for which you should not go into this hell, factors that have not been verified, not confirmed, but really possible. And what is offered in the end? Risk the lives and health of millions of Russian citizens for the geopolitical interests of the state? You know the basic rule when Russians achieve victory in battle. Fight for a just cause, for the Motherland, for your land, for children, wives and mothers. Where, tell me, are all these components for a Russian man? In addition, we now have incomparably fewer people than there were under the USSR: not 250, but about 140 million people. (entire population) There are 50-60 million people in Ukraine, and now calculate the consequences of direct intervention in a foreign (I emphasize, already foreign) country in a ratio of 3 to 1. I don’t even want to comment on the composition of men eligible for conscription at the moment. Now imagine how many people Europe can put forward as an example (I’m not even taking the USA). If you reason with me, saying that they will fight with weapons of mass destruction, then with such thoughts there is no need to fight at all, but you need to build a place in the cemetery. In general, the article is certainly patriotic, but with incorrect conclusions.
    1. 0
      6 August 2014 17: 19
      Quote: Mama_Cholli
      In addition, we now have incomparably fewer people than there were under the USSR: not 250, but about 140 million people. (entire population) There are 50-60 million people in Ukraine, and now calculate the consequences of direct intervention in a foreign (I emphasize, already foreign) country in a ratio of 3 to 1.


      You underestimated Russia's resource by a small amount, and thus, on average, increased Ukraine's cash reserves. 145 million in Russia and 44 million in Ukraine. Well, minus another 2 million from Ukraine, which is in Crimea and part of the Donbass, the disloyal witch Donbass, somewhere else 4 million. That is, 44 - (2+4) = 38 million, this is Ukraine. Total, 145/38 = 3,8 times.
  55. 0
    6 August 2014 19: 18
    Quote: CHEF
    The author is 99% right! I fully support! BUT!!!! To start a military campaign, it is necessary that the bulk of the "calm" regions of the so-called Ukraine, FULLY, on their own skin, feel all the "delights" of the new government with their Gryo ... BANA EUROPEANITY !!! We need WINTER and HUNGER !!! Yes, that's so fierce! Then the Russian troops and the power of the Oligarchs from the Russian Federation will seem like God's grace! Now, except for those areas where there is a real war, Ukrainian citizens to change their oligarchic was-dlo for the same oligarchic W-DLO from the Russian Federation, there is no point! None at all! These citizens should get their fill of that very EUROPEANITY! THE PEOPLE WERE THEIR RULERS !!! Ukrainian citizens must fully drink the cup of their bestial inaction and indifference to their own fate! And only after that, the main part will remember that they, in fact, are not citizens of a mythical artificial state, but there are RUSICH and the heirs of the origins of the land RUSSIAN !!! They forgot it, they played EUROPEANITY. Woe to them on their heads! THE EARTH ITSELF takes revenge on the traitors !!! The same applies to "dear Russians"! I am sure that our ethnos will have to pay for all that indifference to the fate of the HERO PEOPLE, which has been shown since the collapse of the USSR! And the "gifts" of fate have already been in store for us - not brave! THE PEOPLE WERE THEIR RULERS !!!

    And what? Russia is to blame for everything. Whatever happens, the culprit is known. And in relation to Russia, Ukrainians will become even more bitter. No one has yet canceled propaganda.
  56. 0
    6 August 2014 19: 44
    You can downvote, insult, etc., but the article is PROVACATIONAL CRAP!
  57. 0
    6 August 2014 19: 57
    In my opinion, the author was mistaken several times and seriously mistaken. To say that Ukraine wants or doesn’t want something is fundamentally wrong. If the author means a STATE with that name, then it has been gone for a long time. Moreover, if we talk about such a state as a subject of sovereign foreign and even domestic policy, then such a state called Ukraine did not exist at all! Talking about the Ukrainian people as a certain COMMUNITY of the population in a given territory is also not a rewarding task! You won’t seriously argue that the population of the West and the East are, strictly speaking, one people only with a diametrically opposite vector of development, or that some are intoxicated and others are not!!! It’s time to open your eyes, dear ones, about the truly pathological hatred of everything Russian (and even just the red color of jackets, caps... recklessly dressed by some residents of this democratic country at the wrong time and in the wrong place) of a significant part of the population of this territorial entity called Ukraine. It is with open and understanding eyes that things must be done. Respond competently to sanctions, provide more assistance to the East, and what if the Motherland calls... In Simferopol, for example, on the railway. At the station, when trains depart, “Farewell of the Slav” sounds, a good tradition in this regard.
  58. 0
    6 August 2014 20: 37
    Just like at the everyday level, a drunk neighbor, snacking on lard, gallops around for the entire 24 hours. Nobody likes it, words don’t help, gallops, hits the nickel, comes to his senses, gallops again, the last argument with a club on the dome, passes out, tie him up and go to the psychiatric hospital. Ukrainians, drunk in a stupor. am
  59. 0
    6 August 2014 20: 49
    The death of the general is an image blow to the United States and NATO. This is good news, they are already starting to get a bullet in the forehead. laughing
  60. bullet
    0
    7 August 2014 02: 14
    it is correctly written, but it will be done even better, Russian politicians will show aerobatics, the states will not stand it, they have become a colossus with feet of clay that, upon a collision, will stupidly fall apart into three or even more parts.
  61. 0
    7 August 2014 09: 57
    What can Russia oppose to the missile defense and NATO bases in Ukraine? It is already concluding a military alliance with the United States without creating a bloc. Put your ISKANDERS against Ukraine? So this will not solve the problem. The attacking side always has an advantage, especially if the flight time of missiles to Moscow and missile bases is measured in minutes. As long as Putin is looking for his nuclear briefcase with missile codes and contacting Obama, everything will be over. Therefore, the population of Ukraine must survive the winter without gas and feel all the delights of the EU. Ukrainian personnel in Russia are asked to return to their homeland. Introduce all sanctions against Ukraine. What to do if there is a threat of missile defense in Ukraine or NATO bases? Send in troops and start a war? So where will the funds come from to restore Little Russia? There are already problems with little Crimea, but it
    several times less in terms of industry and population of Little Russia! Ruin Russia and its population? This is just what the EU and the USA are waiting for.
  62. 0
    7 August 2014 12: 14
    What can Russia oppose to the missile defense and NATO bases in Ukraine? It is already concluding a military alliance with the United States without creating a bloc. Put your ISKANDERS against Ukraine? So this will not solve the problem. The attacking side always has an advantage, especially if the flight time of missiles to Moscow and missile bases is measured in minutes. As long as Putin is looking for his nuclear briefcase with missile codes and contacting Obama, everything will be over. Therefore, the population of Ukraine must survive the winter without gas and feel all the delights of the EU. Ukrainian personnel in Russia are asked to return to their homeland. Introduce all sanctions against Ukraine. What to do if there is a threat of missile defense in Ukraine or NATO bases? Send in troops and start a war? So where will the funds come from to restore Little Russia? There are already problems with little Crimea, but it
    several times less in terms of industry and population of Little Russia! Ruin Russia and its population? This is just what the EU and the USA are waiting for.