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Shamans: three more intelligence battalions will appear in the structure of the Airborne Forces

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By the end of this year, three more separate reconnaissance battalions will be formed in the 3's airborne divisions, reports RIA News With reference to the statement of the commander of the Russian Airborne Troops Vladimir Shamanov.



“By December 1, along with the 45 th Special Forces Brigade, three more separate reconnaissance battalions will be formed in three of our divisions: in two assault landing (76-I Pskov and 7-I Novorossiysk) and in one airborne (106 th Tula) "
clarified in an interview with journalists, Colonel-General.

Shamans: three more intelligence battalions will appear in the structure of the Airborne Forces
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  1. mig31
    mig31 3 August 2014 12: 09
    +55
    Strengthening the Airborne Forces is the guarantee of the power of Russia, who, if not Airborne Forces, is the most airborne striking force !!!
    1. ya.seliwerstov2013
      ya.seliwerstov2013 3 August 2014 12: 11
      +45
      Russian landing - you have no equal in the world!
      You are courage, courage and honor!

      No cooler than men on a huge planet
      With anger do not go to Russia!

      Otherwise, make sure in your own skin
      How the Motherland sings in souls ...
      Therefore it’s better not to be angry with the Russians,
      After all, each of them is a PATRIOT !!!
      1. Момент
        Момент 3 August 2014 12: 16
        +10
        It takes pride in the Russian armed forces. New types of troops will bring quick results - the enemy is afraid of the way.
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        2. commbatant
          commbatant 3 August 2014 14: 26
          +18
          Quote: Moment
          It takes pride in the Russian armed forces. New types of troops will bring quick results - the enemy is afraid of the way.


          which ones are new?
          1. Hleb
            Hleb 3 August 2014 14: 36
            +21
            it turns out that intelligence is now considered a "new type of troops"
            it's fine!)
          2. dyremar 66
            dyremar 66 3 August 2014 15: 57
            -17
            there were 200 paratroopers in the ussr and now? they will not make the weather in a global conflict, not where to jump
            1. igor.oldtiger
              igor.oldtiger 3 August 2014 16: 07
              +15
              it's a PR! I served in a tank, but I don’t ride a tank on the Nevsky !!!!!
              1. lelikas
                lelikas 3 August 2014 16: 45
                +23
                Quote: igor.oldtiger
                it's a PR! I served in a tank, but I don’t ride a tank on the Nevsky !!!!!

                You just don’t have your own tank! And so 100% would ride!
              2. Carlos
                Carlos 3 August 2014 16: 45
                +2
                It's high time, and then some reductions and optimization. "New swoon" was generally like a control shot.
            2. RONIN-HS
              RONIN-HS 3 August 2014 16: 18
              +7
              And the opponent of the SPIRIT is thinner than the Germans (1941 sample of the year) ...
              For these - ENOUGH ..! good
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            4. smith7
              smith7 3 August 2014 19: 06
              +2
              And why not provoke the enemy of one missile launcher to shoot down an airplane with a whole parachute-landing company! wink True, there are several "more other" methods of landing ... What is the likelihood of a global conflict in your opinion?
            5. user1212
              user1212 3 August 2014 20: 21
              +10
              Quote: dyremar 66 rus
              in the ussr there were 200 paratroopers

              There has never been so much. About 80 maximum
              Quote: dyremar 66 rus
              and now

              About 32.
              Quote: dyremar 66 rus
              they will not do weather in a global conflict

              Should they? Neither in terms of numbers (even Soviet) nor in terms of the range of weapons, the Airborne Forces were never intended to create "weather" in global wars. The Airborne Troops (VDV) are a branch of the Armed Forces designed to cover the enemy by air and perform tasks in its rear, as well as to cover (defend) certain areas, open flanks, penetrated enemy groupings and perform other tasks.
              In global conflicts, the armed forces of states fight, not individual branches of the armed forces.
            6. Karabas
              Karabas 5 August 2014 14: 02
              0
              In order to comment on something, you need to know the subject for comment. To begin with, to serve in the Airborne Forces, if you did not have to, rummage through the network, that's all. Good luck on the Internet!
            7. gray
              gray 5 August 2014 20: 34
              0
              And here to jump, remember the two Caucasian companies and everything will become clear. With such a saturation of air defense systems over the battlefield and in the days of the USSR, they did not plan so stupidly without any measures to let the elite of their armed forces die.
          3. igor.oldtiger
            igor.oldtiger 3 August 2014 16: 05
            -30
            new taxes on Shoigu, Vasiliev, etc.
            1. DV69
              DV69 3 August 2014 17: 36
              +15
              And what did Sergey Kozhugetovich do to you?
              1. nfoma80
                nfoma80 4 August 2014 14: 48
                +1
                He did nothing to him; he is from the category of shitting in soup. We have such a layer that they don’t do everything very badly.
          4. smith7
            smith7 3 August 2014 19: 00
            0
            3 more new paratrooper reconnaissance forces have joined the types of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation of the NE, Air Force, Navy, VKS, SNF! This really can not but rejoice!
            1. abc_02
              abc_02 3 August 2014 21: 59
              -1
              Parachutists in civilian life!
        3. abc_02
          abc_02 3 August 2014 19: 49
          +9
          Pride takes for Donbass militias!
          They ran around the village with a chainsaw for concrete, as in Soviet times, they queued up for tanks, and the air forces of dill were really stolen. Here again, they are different !!!
          1. abc_02
            abc_02 3 August 2014 19: 53
            0
            And zapadensky stupid people will not calm down! How to serve in the army, so sick and lame, but how to ride on Banderstat, so with 2 hands for!

            http://rusvesna.su/news/1407077576
          2. vlad-ns
            vlad-ns 3 August 2014 20: 43
            -7
            Ukrainians rejoice:
            Lviv paratroopers destroyed a column of terrorists moving to Lugansk

            The Ukrainian military ambushed, and as a result of a successful operation destroyed 7 enemy tanks, 5 armored personnel carriers, 3 Grad installations, and about 7 vehicles with ammunition:

            In the Luhansk region, the Lvov paratroopers of the 80th separate airmobile brigade destroyed a column of terrorists moving from the city of Sukhodolsk to Lugansk. This was reported to a UNIAN correspondent by the head of the civil initiative Civil Initiative “Rights on the Right,” Dmitry Snegirev. According to him, the information was received directly from the scene by members of his public organization, as well as from the Ukrainian military. “On the night of August 1, the 80th separate airborne brigade of the Lvov paratroopers defending the Lugansk airport, thanks to intelligence received from the information group“ Rights on the Right ”, again destroyed a large convoy of militants from Sukhodolsk to Lugansk,” said Snegirev. He noted that the Ukrainian military ambushed, and as a result of a successful operation destroyed 7 enemy tanks, 5 armored personnel carriers, 3 Grad installations and about 7 vehicles with ammunition. “The losses of the militants also amounted to about 120-150 people,” Snegirev added.

            He also said that according to sources close to the self-proclaimed Lugansk People’s Republic, “the LPR’s counterintelligence did not expect the Ukrainian military to somehow get accurate data on the time and route of the militant’s convoys.”

            Bad news ... It turns out that the Militias have a rat. Is there really no normal counterintelligence in Novorossia? How true is this information?
            1. GRAY
              GRAY 3 August 2014 21: 15
              +4
              Quote: vlad-ns
              80th separate airmobile brigade of Lviv paratroopers defending Lugansk airport

              This place worries me and the word "again". Dill are sitting there on the defensive - what nafig ambushes?
              I do not recognize UNIAN - why there are less than a thousand killed?
              Do not unconditionally believe ukroSMI, especially when they shout about the success of the punitive.
              It is better to wait for information from other sources.
              1. S_W_A_T_72
                S_W_A_T_72 3 August 2014 22: 58
                0
                [media = http: //prikol.bigmir.net/view/282335]

                And THIS destroyed so much of our technology? fool
            2. old man54
              old man54 3 August 2014 21: 37
              +3
              Quote: vlad-ns
              It turns out that the Militias have a rat. Is there really no normal counterintelligence in Novorossia? How true is this information?

              I drove you "-"! There is a lot to say and write, especially with bandera-dill! But to repeat all sorts of crap after Svidomo fools, and even on the Russian resource ... here you are stuck, "colleague"! According to their reports, they have already completely destroyed the entire population of Donbass, given their data on the losses of milling. laughing In general, they write that they are blocked in the airport of Lugansk, but here it turns out that they roam everywhere without getting there. request Especially Lviv ... zapadentsy are the most lazy of the salopods, and this is now clearly seen by the Great Patriotic War as well. And for such a rout, as the junta propagandists cite above, a whole special operation is needed, the number of which is no less than a company consisting of selected excellent fighters, such as special forces of the Russian GRU! And then ... And for the ignorant Svidomo of course ride, they will soon write that the DRG of the Lviv Bendera division and the bastard destroyed the division. laughing And of course they have 0 losses! fellow laughing
            3. S_W_A_T_72
              S_W_A_T_72 3 August 2014 22: 53
              0
              The Ukrainian military ambushed, and as a result of a successful operation destroyed 7 enemy tanks, 5 armored personnel carriers, 3 Grad installations, and about 7 vehicles with ammunition:

              Something I can’t remember if our militias would move in such columns, and even directly into the hands of dill. Another baubles from a woman Dusi ....
            4. RUSLAT
              RUSLAT 3 August 2014 23: 01
              +1
              I do not want to go into details, but this is DESA. Even the link to receive information is similar to OBZh, one grandmother said ..... That’s who receives the information so this is the militia, they are at home, and every kid will consider it his duty to report a fascist ambush ......
            5. Genur
              Genur 3 August 2014 23: 52
              0
              Fresh tradition, but hard to believe. Desa !!!
            6. Victorio
              Victorio 4 August 2014 00: 08
              +2
              the indicated number of tanks and armored personnel carriers is doubtful, even if there was such a convoy, then it is not so easy to destroy it
            7. World Cup 2014
              World Cup 2014 4 August 2014 00: 36
              +1
              Do not believe the media. If they say tomorrow that they have come to your home and do not give a shit about the whole army, you will not believe
      2. net abortion
        net abortion 3 August 2014 19: 32
        +1
        About patriots ... and not only!

        Please speak!


        http://topwar.ru/user/net+abort/

        And those of the politicians who give the killers orders know what they are doing: they bring a sacrifice.

        Just like Hitler did.
        Like him, the current backroom rulers are racists.
        The roots of racism are occultism and satanism.
        The possessed Fuhrer not only destroyed the population inferior from his point of view, he, with full understanding, like a pagan priest, made massive sacrifices to demonic hordes, seducing them with blood in exchange for a promise of power over the world.

        The madmen who worship the golden calf, who think they are the rulers of the world, are doing the same. They - the "chosen ones" - cleanse the world of "superfluous", "subhumans". And the only thing that truly hinders their satanic plans is the Orthodox Church.

        And the defender of the Orthodox faith is Russia.
        They are trying to crush the enemies, splitting the big Russian world, which includes Ukraine, turning it into a Nazi bridgehead. To the launching pad of a new world war, in which it is planned to "cleanse the planet from excess biomass", to bring so many sacrifices to the dark forces that the defenders of a united Ukraine may simply not physically remain ...
        1. DV69
          DV69 3 August 2014 22: 05
          +1
          And who told you that the Gentiles had human sacrifices? Or do you call the pagans the Jewish priests of the golden calf?
      3. net abortion
        net abortion 3 August 2014 20: 47
        0
        Quote: ya.seliwerstov2013
        You are courage, courage and honor!



        Persecution of Christians in Little Russia



        The abbot of the Temple in Glevakh (28 km from Kiev on the Odessa highway) stripped parishioners here are such leaflets


        Junta followers reported to the priest in the SBU and on the 5th channel (owner Porosheko) for taking measures to the priest. Parishioners began to defend their father.
      4. wanderer_032
        wanderer_032 4 August 2014 07: 05
        +1
        Quote: ya.seliwerstov2013
        Russian landing - you have no equal in the world!


        Then nah. us all the rest (air defense (VVKO), Strategic Missile Forces, SV, FPS, Navy, Air Force), let's just airborne and leave, let’s pull the strap for all then. negative
        Zadolbali these nonsense.
        Each has its own business and its own task.
        Important and necessary, ALL types and types of troops, because the specific capabilities of all are different.
        1. wanderer_032
          wanderer_032 4 August 2014 07: 49
          +1
          Quote: wanderer_032
          Important and necessary, ALL types and types of troops, because the specific capabilities of all are different.

          VICTORY IS ACHIEVED ONLY WITH FULL AND CLEAR INTERACTION OF ALL TYPES AND BIRTHS OF TROOPS!
          And not only when using the Airborne Forces.
          KILL YOURSELF IN THE BRAIN!
    2. Giant thought
      Giant thought 3 August 2014 12: 15
      +28
      The dialectic of the development of the Airborne Forces at the moment causes only positive emotions. God grant that this goes on and on.
      1. Cadet787
        Cadet787 3 August 2014 12: 21
        +10
        The good news is, the soul is singing. Glory to Russia and its armed forces!
    3. Paradoxov
      Paradoxov 3 August 2014 12: 24
      +32
      I agree!
      To paraphrase Ranevskaya: the Airborne Forces are a terrible force! :)

      And we are all about sore:
      DONETSK, Aug 3 - RIA News. A large group of Ukrainian military and security officials, surrounded in the south of the Luhansk region, began negotiations with the militias about the conditions for their surrender, RIA Novosti said on Sunday at the militia headquarters.

      The group is located in the Sverdlovsk district of the Luhansk region, between the villages of Panchenkovo ​​and Biryukovo on the one hand and the Russian border on the other.

      "They ran out of food rations, water and fuel, they only left ammunition for small arms for a couple of days of fighting. They entered into negotiations with us. Their proposal is that they destroy all equipment (about 70 units), surrender ammunition and weapons, and we release them from the encirclement to the Ukrainian territory, "- said the representative of the headquarters.
      The militias, he said, did not agree to these conditions. One of the demands of the militias is that the security forces leave them all the equipment intact. “The approximate deadline for the end of the epic is four to five days,” the headquarters representative believes. “The militias simply block the encircled, not engaging in close combat and firing at them from artillery.”

      "The supply of the encircled group, due to the large losses of military transport aircraft, has been practically reduced to zero," a headquarters representative told RIA Novosti, noting that the planes are dropping cargo from a great height, "as a result of which some of them fall into the positions of the militia themselves." There are several groups of Ukrainian security officials surrounded, who tried to cut off the DPR and LPR from the border, but could not cope with this task.
      1. subbtin.725
        subbtin.725 3 August 2014 12: 27
        +10
        In the modern world, only force is respected ...., unfortunately. I perceive the initiative of our military leadership as positive. In modern war, you can hardly achieve anything with the help of a frontal attack with shouts of "Hurray". The famous slogan: Nobody but Us.
        1. shoe
          shoe 3 August 2014 12: 41
          +3
          not right! paratroopers, and even yielded with cries of cheers ... dets amer and the entire military trash from Europe. just diapers are not enough!
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 3 August 2014 12: 46
        +17
        Quote: Paradoxov
        DONETSK, Aug 3 - RIA News. A large group of Ukrainian military and security officials, surrounded in the south of the Luhansk region, began negotiations with militias about the conditions for their surrender,

        Yesterday it’s, but today the boys are ticking, lol
        Now. 12 dill crossed the border in the Rostov region with a white flag. 72 motorized brigade. They claim that they do not give up, that there is no state of war with Russia, that they are not traitors to Ukraine, they are simply asking for refuge from the militias. All personnel military, not boys, experience in the army 10 years.
        1. GRAY
          GRAY 3 August 2014 13: 05
          +15
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          12 dill crossed the border in the Rostov region

          There is an illegal crossing of the state border of the Russian Federation, since there is no war, they must comply with the procedure for crossing the state border.
          I give an excerpt from the Criminal Code:

          "1. Crossing the State Border of the Russian Federation without valid documents for the right to enter the Russian Federation or leave the Russian Federation, or without a proper permit obtained in accordance with the procedure established by the legislation of the Russian Federation, shall be punishable by a fine in the amount of up to two hundred thousand rubles or in the amount of wages or other income of the convicted person for a period of up to eighteen months, either by forced labor for up to two years, or by imprisonment for the same period. 2. Crossing the State Border of the Russian Federation when entering the Russian Federation by a foreign citizen or stateless person whose entry into the Russian The federation, knowingly for the guilty person, is not allowed on the grounds stipulated by the legislation of the Russian Federation, - is punishable by a fine of up to three hundred thousand rubles, or by forced labor for up to four years, or by imprisonment for the same period. second of this article, committed by a group of persons in a preliminary conspiracy or by an organized group, or with the use of violence or with the threat of its use, - shall be punishable by imprisonment for a term of up to six years.
          More details: http://ipipip.ru/uk/322/ "
          1. svp67
            svp67 3 August 2014 13: 33
            +4
            Quote: GRAY
            I give an excerpt from the Criminal Code:

            So far, Ukraine and I have simplified entry, according to NATIONAL passports, including military ID cards ... So the Ukrainian military didn’t violate anything, provided that they didn’t carry anything with them ...
            1. GRAY
              GRAY 3 August 2014 14: 58
              +5
              Quote: svp67
              we have simplified entry with Ukraine, according to national passports

              They probably didn’t have marks on crossing the Ukrainian border. If you want, you can attract, the Slovaks won’t stand on ceremony:
              At about 3.00 a.m. on Saturday, August 1, a Slovak conductor on the Slovak-Ukrainian border shot dead a conductor of illegal migrants from Ukraine.
              This was announced by the Minister of Internal Affairs of the Slovak Republic Robert Kalinyak, writes "Mukachevo.net".
              The Slovak patrol recorded movement on the border as early as Friday evening at about 19.30, when five Vietnamese citizens led by a guide tried to illegally get into Slovakia from the Transcarpathian region.
              This was reported to the border police department in Sobrantsy, and a special patrol went from there.
              Despite repeated calls and warning shots, the illegal conductor continued his movement and threatened to use weapons. Slovak police had to open fire to kill.
              1. Normal
                Normal 3 August 2014 15: 18
                +4
                Off-topic articles, but I really want to

                03.08.2014 - 14: 27

                The militia went on the counterattack near Donetsk

                Near Donetsk, the militias launched a counterattack. The enemy is driven back from Krasnogorovka and Maryinka.

                The enemy’s breakthrough to Shakhtersk was liquidated, the rout of the units that were surrounded by the miners continues.

                On the northern front, the Ukrainian security forces advanced on Pervomaisk, which was defended by the group of Aleksey Mozgovoy, but were defeated and retreated with losses.

                The remains of the defeated Ukrainian units seep from the Southern Cauldron through a gap previously pierced by the enemy in the Marinovka area.

                The most important transport hub of the Debaltseve region remains in the hands of the invaders, as a result of which there remains a serious threat to Donetsk.

                rusvesna.su/news/1407061648
              2. Kilo-11
                Kilo-11 3 August 2014 18: 00
                +1
                There is no reason to attract these fascists, formally they crossed the border legally, according to passports, in the established checkpoint, they showed internal passports of Ukraine for control, and border guards do not mark them. About the use of weapons, our border guards are strictly forbidden to use weapons, only if if they will be fired on. Trust our border with Ukraine this is a passage yard, when the hair ran into it, the training of the border guards leaves much to be desired, almost semi civilians. It is not for nothing that in the Caucasus we called the Greenpeace or the green patrol.
              3. max702
                max702 3 August 2014 22: 07
                0
                Well done! so it is necessary to act, otherwise Europe will help them. helps already ..
            2. Kilo-11
              Kilo-11 3 August 2014 17: 49
              0
              According to the identity cards of the military, they are not allowed to cross the border between the Russian Federation and Ukraine, the TV plot clearly shows that the Ukrainian fascists presented passports for control.
          2. Juborg
            Juborg 3 August 2014 14: 06
            +3
            They are violators and are subject to criminal prosecution. Dill is suitable only for salad (finely chopped) or for the development of the Yakut tundra.
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            1. fox21h
              fox21h 3 August 2014 19: 55
              +9
              Quote: svrs2276
              You are full down! 12 people crossed the border, how many of your tanks and cities crossed the border of Ukraine. A civilian Boeing plane was shot down from your weapon, the blood of innocent people is on your hands. You will soon drown in blood - Putin’s fascists

              I.D.O.t. (this is not an insult, just a statement of the diagnosis) and you can’t be cured, drink some green stuff, maybe it will. If our people really drove tanks and the rest crap across the border, you would have posted pictures for a long time, and you’ll be empty as the rest of the fooled dill state.
              It’s you downhead heads who often called one people subhuman, and after that you still blather about fascism, Nitsche, the agenda will come to lighten up, but no, in Dombas you’ll clean your brains.
            2. soratnik
              soratnik 3 August 2014 20: 22
              +8
              If the Russian army crossed your border, you would long ago with naked women in Vinnitsa, Lviv and Ivano-Frankivsk dug in shit in pigsties.
            3. Dart2027
              Dart2027 3 August 2014 20: 29
              +5
              On your hands is the blood of innocent people. You will soon drown in blood - fascists of the State Department.
            4. Yuri Sev Caucasus
              Yuri Sev Caucasus 3 August 2014 21: 01
              0
              http://politobzor.net/show-28943-svodka-materialov-dokazyvayuschih-prichastnost-
              vvs-ukrainy-k-krusheniyu-boinga-reysa-mh17.html
              especially for you about a civilian plane.
            5. Status
              Status 3 August 2014 21: 33
              0
              I ran away from here!
        2. pahom54
          pahom54 3 August 2014 13: 41
          +17
          For Alexander Romanov
          Do not give up? Just asking for asylum? Yes, and personnel military?
          That's because they are not militia boys, no need to spare them.
          It turns out that they threw their subordinates for slaughter to the same militias, and they themselves - to tick ??? Yes, protection - to whom ??? After all, the militias are pro-Russian guys, and the same professional Ukrainians knew very well who they were fighting against ... And they probably jumped and screamed about yak at a gilyaka ...
          Damn, I am ashamed of these personnel warriors ... They would have fought to the end - victorious or mortal ...
          1. enot73
            enot73 3 August 2014 14: 34
            +3
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Now. 12 dill crossed the border in the Rostov region with a white flag. 72 motorized brigade. They claim that they do not give up, that there is no state of war with Russia, that they are not traitors to Ukraine, they are simply asking for refuge from the militias. All personnel military, not boys, experience in the army 10 years.

            Quote: pahom54
            It turns out that they threw their subordinates to the slaughter of the same militias, and they themselves - to tick ??? Yes pd protection - to whom?

            Most likely these personnel warriors are quite adequate people, they understand what’s what they don’t see in Russian enemies, unlike some salabons - pravoseki with brainwashed. If these salabons were smarter, then at least they would have avoided service, and no one bothers them to surrender. Now let them jump, jump and dream about European life in the environment.
        3. gispanec
          gispanec 3 August 2014 13: 42
          +6
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          They claim that they do not give up, that there is no state of war with Russia, that they are not traitors to Ukraine, they are simply asking for refuge from the militias. All personnel military, not boys, experience in the army 10 years.

          I saw these Svidomo .... they find themselves in some kind of MISCELLANEOUS with Russia ......... they took a fashion to bring down dill across our border ...
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 3 August 2014 13: 49
            +18
            Quote: gispanec

            I saw these Svidomo ..

            Really met him laughing
          2. demel2
            demel2 3 August 2014 14: 42
            +15
            Quote: gispanec
            .Took the fashion to bring down dill across our border ..

            I can’t understand why our authorities let them through. Especially personnel, because they will again take up arms. To intern them, there is no end in the Arctic.
            1. corporal
              corporal 3 August 2014 20: 23
              0
              Quote: demel2
              Intern them

              Based on what? It is clear that emotions, but the mind does not need to be turned off.
              1. Wheel
                Wheel 3 August 2014 21: 05
                0
                Quote: Corporal
                Based on what? It is clear that emotions, but the mind does not need to be turned off.
                Based on the fact that military operations are ongoing in the adjacent territory.
                There is every right to intern all military personnel until graduation.
                common international practice.
          3. enot73
            enot73 3 August 2014 14: 48
            0
            Quote: gispanec
            I saw these Svidomo .... they find themselves in some kind of MISCELLANEOUS with Russia ......... they took a fashion to bring down dill across our border
            In fact, a tribunal shines on them in dill.
            1. work67
              work67 3 August 2014 15: 26
              +2
              soon there it will be necessary to give the army to the tribunal according to the current situation.
              and the tribunal will be over the junta.
          4. kyznets
            kyznets 3 August 2014 15: 22
            +6
            It was at first that they (the deserters - career soldiers) fought - they did not spare anyone as long as they were paying money and the length of service was going on. And then these "all cadres" DROPPED their subordinates in the cauldron, or allowed the recruits-subordinates to die in the cauldron, and then they themselves saved their lives. The officers are real, they died themselves in order to save the fighters, and these are somehow not personnel, not in an officer's way. Do not let them go home, do not give refugees, let them forcibly work in refugee camps as service personnel for FREE - they carry disabled people and old people, take care of them. And let them listen to what the refugees think of them.
        4. S_W_A_T_72
          S_W_A_T_72 3 August 2014 23: 05
          0
          Here’s Ghouls, but I just don’t have any words .... They don’t give up ..... Obos.r.a.alis, and even they can’t wipe themselves fool
      3. Paradoxov
        Paradoxov 3 August 2014 15: 34
        +2
        Vitali Klitschko urged people of Kiev to prepare for the "land"
        http://lifenews.ru/news/137732
        laughing laughing laughing
        1. Nicotin13
          Nicotin13 3 August 2014 17: 59
          0
          The mayor is the most for the capital Ruins. wink
      4. VICTOR-61
        VICTOR-61 3 August 2014 16: 08
        0
        Well done, militiamen demand all the equipment to be handed over, otherwise they will not starve to death not where they will spend so much on them and let go, they want to give everything in return — they came to kill the militias and they fire on civilians — they exchanged prisoners ate the living, they beat off the Nazi scum
      5. Privat
        Privat 3 August 2014 17: 14
        +4
        Quote: Paradoxov
        Their proposal - they destroy all equipment (about 70 units), surrender ammunition and weapons, and we release them from the encirclement on Ukrainian territory
        It’s not enough until the pranks on the pumpkin were tapped.
        They also confuse the concepts of "unconditional surrender" and "granting political asylum."
      6. jPilot
        jPilot 3 August 2014 23: 05
        0
        This is something new in the tactics of warfare: we are destroying everything and you let us out, please, ahhh, I often met people of the near mind who clean themselves up very smart and the rest, respectively ... It’s like that from that opera and they’re sitting in a cauldron with with such conditions, let them starve in the boiler, especially since they already have almost no ammunition for the campaign ....
    4. FACKtoREAL
      FACKtoREAL 3 August 2014 12: 25
      +7
      The pledge of power of any state is determined, first of all, by military-technical potential ...
      Remind me, in what modern wars did the mass landing of troops take place behind enemy lines?
    5. armageddon
      armageddon 3 August 2014 12: 38
      +2
      For the reinforcement of the Airborne For only !!! Glory to the Airborne Forces !!! Margelov Glory !!!
      1. ya.seliwerstov2013
        ya.seliwerstov2013 3 August 2014 12: 48
        +7
        But believe us, Dad, those who saw the sky,
        What fell into the dome with starry silence
        Both in the soul and in the heart leave faith
        In the fraternity that is verified by the military service. About the mountains of Afghanistan and the dust of Abkhazia,
        About friends who died in Bosnia and Chechnya
        Guys in blue vests won't forget
        Do not forget the guard service in the Airborne Forces.
    6. jovanni
      jovanni 3 August 2014 12: 42
      +6
      This ... oh well him, this word, airmobile ...
    7. tchoni
      tchoni 3 August 2014 13: 25
      +3
      I agree, only, on the basis of these troops, it would be nice to create assault units with heavy weapons (tanks, TBTR, self-propelled guns, reconnaissance units with drones, etc., etc.), otherwise they are often forced to storm . And with their cardboard book it is not high.
      1. Alekseev
        Alekseev 3 August 2014 14: 34
        +4
        Quote: tchoni
        only, on the basis of these troops, it would be nice to create assault units with heavy weapons

        Simply put - reformatted in MSD.
        No need, to each his own, everything in this world is created for their own tasks, and they are somewhat different for the Airborne Forces and the "heavy" infantry.
        "You cannot harness a horse and a quivering doe into one cart."
        1. tchoni
          tchoni 7 August 2014 22: 11
          0
          I do not argue that the tasks of the Airborne Forces and any "assault" units are very different. What they have in common is, I don't even know how to formulate more precisely, perhaps, the logic of the personnel's behavior. And here and there, the fighters are required to have non-trivial thinking, quick analysis of the situation, quick decision-making, the ability to conduct hostilities in isolation from the main forces (for attack aircraft, this is more clearly manifested in buildings, but where there is no building, they are not particularly are needed - the artillery will plow everything up). Perhaps that is why they loved (and love) so much to form various OSSBs.
      2. demel2
        demel2 3 August 2014 14: 46
        0
        Quote: tchoni
        I agree, only, on the basis of these troops, it would be nice to create assault units with heavy weapons (tanks, TBTR, self-propelled guns, reconnaissance units with drones, etc., etc.), otherwise they are often forced to storm . And with their cardboard book it is not high.

        Well then, why create the forces of special operations that were recently written about? Although, of course, in modern conditions it will not be superfluous.
        1. g1v2
          g1v2 3 August 2014 15: 13
          +1
          They have a different purpose - the MTR is necessary for operations in which we are not officially registered. This is for example operations under the guise of PMC and so on. In general, MTR operations are more likely to relate to the activities of special services, rather than MO. In theory, it's time to skate them on dill - let them be coordinated in combat conditions. Again, in the event of the death of the MTR fighters, nothing should point to us. Well, the airborne reconnaissance forces are engaged in completely legal operations under the auspices of the Ministry of Defense and have their own areas of application.
      3. figter
        figter 3 August 2014 16: 25
        +1
        tchoni
        I agree, only, on the basis of these troops, it would be nice to create assault units with heavy weapons (tanks, TBTR, self-propelled guns, reconnaissance units with drones, etc., etc.), otherwise they are often forced to storm . And with their cardboard book it is not high.

        Of course, such assault units then immediately call them their true names: motorized rifle and tank companies (battalions). And then, quite often they prevail ...
    8. lelikas
      lelikas 3 August 2014 13: 28
      +9
      Quote: mig31
      Airborne is the most airborne striking force !!!

      Today, being airborne is not at a premium - it’s better to have an airborne landing! ;)
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    9. sabakina
      sabakina 3 August 2014 13: 54
      +3
      Eh, why call our landing party Ukropovsky "airmobile" ... Eh, you didn’t serve there, my friend, you didn’t serve ...
    10. Juborg
      Juborg 3 August 2014 14: 14
      +7
      We will not repeat ourselves and throw slogans like, "Hurray, we will win!" I think it should be so, only quietly, at home, without bravado and pathos - it just should be done as in normal armies.
      In general, I do not like the weekend on "VO", AS IT IS BORING, DISCUSSIONS EXTINGUISH, LESS INFO.

      Here is the latest news cannot but please:
      "In August 2014, on the basis of the Ryazan VVDKU named after General of the Army VF Margelov, a parachute training for the special forces of the ground forces of the Republic of Serbia will take place, which will last two weeks," RIA Novosti quoted Meshkov as saying.
      1. dyremar 66
        dyremar 66 3 August 2014 18: 35
        +2
        dill threw troops in the combat zone, so what? what are the results? now is not the 20th century, now is not the time of the Airborne Forces, but special forces, otherwise, the Ukrainian drones would have held a parade in Donetsk
    11. Finches
      Finches 3 August 2014 20: 26
      +2
      No offense, but the word "airmobile" has always emphasized belonging to the enemy troops, just like the word "motorized infantry"!
      I agree that the nitpicking is stupid, but this word hurts the ear, especially since it is not used in our Airborne Forces combat regulations, but the definition is used: "highly mobile type of troops"!

      Everything else to the point!

      Best regards and plus, for my obsession! hi
      1. Igool
        Igool 4 August 2014 02: 50
        0
        Finches
        I completely agree with you. There are Airborne Troops, that is, Uncle Vasya’s Troops, no airborne troops are mentioned in our charters. But this kind of troops is in Ukraine, even if it remains with them.
        Our Airborne Forces have their own traditions and should not be renamed, referring to the vocabulary used in other states. It seems to me that the wealth of the Russian language will be more than enough for our needs.
        Therefore, let's not come up with innovations that nobody needs, but leave everything as it is. Moreover, aero is part of the word used in Russian mainly with nouns.
    12. seregatara1969
      seregatara1969 3 August 2014 20: 56
      0
      the most shock and airborne part is the air force
    13. net abortion
      net abortion 3 August 2014 20: 57
      +1
      DNR: A pensioner from Yenakiyevo captured a Ukrainian pilot

      Punitive operation
      03.08.2014/11/32 XNUMX:XNUMX, Enakievo
      As reported by local media with reference to the headquarters of the militia, a pensioner from Yenakievo captured a catapulted Ukrainian pilot. am

      A Ukrainian Su-25 was shot down over the city by a militia MANPADS crew. The pilot ejected safely, but "the local grandfather took him prisoner, having put a charge of small fraction into the punisher during the chase," eyewitnesses commented on the situation.

      After providing first aid, the pilot was interrogated. am
      Quote: mig31
      shock force !!!
    14. Archon
      Archon 4 August 2014 12: 04
      0
      Well, there’s still the marines. In particular, the DSB Marine Corps. But there are very few of them.
  2. Hikar
    Hikar 3 August 2014 12: 10
    +2
    But what if there were no reconnaissance battalions in the VDD? And there were only companies? or what how?
    1. 77bob1973
      77bob1973 3 August 2014 12: 21
      +8
      It’s just after the collapse of the USSR that all the structures of the Airborne Forces began to be reduced and were reduced, and almost all the divisions were reduced!
    2. chunga-changa
      chunga-changa 3 August 2014 12: 22
      +10
      There was a company reconnaissance in the division. The battalion is certainly better. It is not clear whether it will be formed at the expense of one of the linear battalions, or will change the staff of the division.
      1. s1н7т
        s1н7т 3 August 2014 13: 06
        +1
        Quote: chunga-changa
        The battalion is certainly better

        Here it must be remembered that the ORD of the MSD or TD is, first of all, the vanguard on the march (I’m not talking about RTR and EW), what for it is in the Airborne Forces? Here, most likely, we will talk about a battalion of the type that once stood in the MPR - DShR, DDR and RSpN.
        1. Hleb
          Hleb 3 August 2014 13: 51
          0
          tried to understand the meaning of what was written, but in vain ... and here is the ORB of motorized riflemen, when suddenly a rule "first of all on the march"
          well, "what for it is necessary" is simply amazing!
        2. figter
          figter 3 August 2014 16: 47
          +3
          s1н7т
          Here it must be remembered that the ORD of the MSD or TD is, first of all, the vanguard on the march (I’m not talking about RTR and EW), what for it is in the Airborne Forces? Here, most likely, we will talk about a battalion of the type that once stood in the MPR - DShR, DDR and RSpN.

          Vanguard on the march - this is the advanced reinforced motorized rifle battalion going immediately behind the head marching outpost (GPZ) in front of the main forces and not having any relation to reconnaissance. And reconnaissance units on the march make up combat reconnaissance patrols (BRD) either conduct deep reconnaissance far away from the main forces or operate as part of the DRG in the entire lane of the compound in anticipation of entering the battle.
          Therefore, the MSD ORB is not the vanguard.
          I do not understand the painful desire of some comrades to make a good half of the armed forces reconnaissance and special forces. Who, then, will fight if everyone leaves for intelligence? Do they sincerely believe that the mass appearance of light infantry units will make the troops stronger?
          1. Kilo-11
            Kilo-11 3 August 2014 18: 10
            +2
            Now it’s so fashionable for everyone to sign up for special forces, only the infantrymen, tankmen, artillerymen, and generally ordinary land soldiers are pulling the war.
            1. dyremar 66
              dyremar 66 3 August 2014 18: 38
              +1
              I completely agree and will be so for a long time despite all the forecasts and dreams
      2. pahom54
        pahom54 3 August 2014 13: 44
        +2
        for chunga changa
        It seems to me that of them they will mainly prepare an assault (and not reconnaissance) fist and serve in them contract soldiers (there is no place for draftees) ...
        1. Hleb
          Hleb 3 August 2014 13: 54
          0
          There are assault regiments and brigades, they have reconnaissance units and the scouts have their own tasks. No one will create reconnaissance units deliberately for assault operations
          1. huut
            huut 3 August 2014 16: 39
            0
            Maybe the increase in airborne reconnaissance is due to the fact that such units are better suited for anti-sabotage activities, to counter other special forces.

            1 option: for example, in the case of direct support for New Russia (or Transdniestria, by the way), it would be more expedient to send there only an airborne reconnaissance battalion than the entire division. For catching small enemy special groups. And the militia will keep the front.

            2 option: for actions on one’s own territory against the same small sabotage groups of an external or internal enemy.

            Pulling entire divisions on such occasions is too much, but reconnaissance battles are normal. That is, they will not go forward, like ordinary reconnaissance, and will not storm, like a DShD (but with the possibility of these actions). Type of counterterrorism, only against larger groups than heels of bandits.

            As an option.
          2. pahom54
            pahom54 3 August 2014 17: 04
            0
            for Gleb
            If we directly call them assault battalions, then we will be immediately accused of preparing for war and building up our military muscles (although it really is). According to NATO classification, we considered each colonel as a regiment commander, although at that time he was sitting somewhere in the headquarters on a managerial position ...
            And so entire reconnaissance battalions ... I see no reason ... most likely, all the same assault ...
            And God forbid more of them, and that people were in them - professionals, and not so, for show ...
            1. Juborg
              Juborg 3 August 2014 17: 46
              0
              Why do you scare people, they will immediately "blame us." Three battalions do not go to war, this is understood not only by NATO, but a simple European explorer. Not anyone is yet talking about an increase in the number, so far we are talking about the formation of three additional assault battalions from among the existing formations of military personnel under the contract. Something like this. That is, the most efficient high-readiness units will be formed.
            2. dyremar 66
              dyremar 66 3 August 2014 18: 42
              0
              can be called anything-peacekeeping contingent animal defenders or the troops of Mother Teresa, if only they would rather have gone to help the militias
        2. figter
          figter 3 August 2014 16: 58
          +1
          pahom54
          for chunga changa
          It seems to me that of them they will mainly prepare an assault (and not reconnaissance) fist and serve in them contract soldiers (there is no place for draftees) ...

          Maybe in this case, it’s easier to equip the first DShB of each regiment of the DShD with contractors, rather than reinvent the wheel?
          Do not confuse ORB and DSB, these are two different things.
      3. qQQQ
        qQQQ 3 August 2014 20: 54
        0
        Quote: chunga-changa
        There was a company reconnaissance in the division


        The regiment was scouted. company, and in the division intelligence. battalion.
        1. chunga-changa
          chunga-changa 3 August 2014 22: 11
          0
          The battalion was in the MSD and TD, in the Airborne Division was and is reconnaissance. company. I think intelligence. the battalions will be equipped with contract soldiers and, if anything, form battalion tactical groups on their basis. To do this easily giving the battalion a reserve and equipment with artillery.
  3. vladstro
    vladstro 3 August 2014 12: 10
    +1
    If you want peace, prepare for war, they will never be superfluous, especially in light of recent events.
  4. Starover_Z
    Starover_Z 3 August 2014 12: 11
    +2
    The clever combat general knows best what is needed for the shock units, and it is not for us to discuss this here!
  5. RusDV
    RusDV 3 August 2014 12: 12
    +4
    Nowhere is there without intelligence. The eyes of war. The bigger, the better. Plus divisions of intelligence saboteurs.
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 3 August 2014 12: 12
    +9
    But under EBN they wanted to eliminate the airborne forces. Thank God on time cleaned up. But as the advocates of democracy tried, they climbed out of their skin in order to eliminate the most combat-ready units.
    But now is another time. The country's defense has become a major concern.
    1. wef
      wef 3 August 2014 14: 12
      +2
      But as the advocates of democracy tried, they climbed out of their skin in order to eliminate the most combat-ready units.

      The order was fulfilled. And not for the gingerbread.
      Strategic Rocket Forces reduced. Schools were reduced and combined. Economy mode for the Air Force and Navy. Shorten the term of military service and pre-conscription training. Arming foreign armies for income and kickbacks. And for a long time you can list - they tried for more than 20 years.

      Indeed, another time has come. Judging by the flights in the combat training center. The "bears" began to fly over us more often. Nice hum from heaven!
  7. anti-beetles
    anti-beetles 3 August 2014 12: 13
    +28
    The video is not quite the topic, but still !!!!!!! Thanks to such troops, we are strong.
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    2. shoe
      shoe 3 August 2014 12: 50
      +3
      THANKS! YOUNG GUYS! LAUGHED FROM THE SOUL
    3. Loner_53
      Loner_53 3 August 2014 13: 40
      +2
      Thank you, I laughed heartily laughing
    4. pahom54
      pahom54 3 August 2014 13: 49
      +3
      for antizhukov
      Thank you so much!!!
      This song would be translated and on all channels not only American, but also gayropeyskim scroll !!! Will grow up ...
  8. ALABAY45
    ALABAY45 3 August 2014 12: 13
    +5
    I would like to! The main thing is that they would be very "polite" and, finally, I don't know how, but they explained that "highly mobile", "medium airborne", "low medium highly mobile" "troops" in Ukraine are a cat's chair, and it is extremely unworthy to equate these, if I may say so, "paratroopers" to the Airborne Forces! ...
    1. subbtin.725
      subbtin.725 3 August 2014 12: 51
      +4
      Quote: ALABAY45
      ! The main thing is that they are very "polite"

      The more specialists of the highest class, the calmer our children will fall asleep. And do not spare money for the army. Who does not want to feed his army, will feed someone else's; golden words.
    2. enot73
      enot73 3 August 2014 15: 52
      +2
      Quote: ALABAY45
      "highly mobile", "medium air mobile", "low medium high mobile" "troops" in Ukraine are a cat's chair, and it is extremely unworthy to equate these, if I may say so, "paratroopers" with the Airborne Forces! ...
      Apparently they decided to cut the dill under NATO and for one reason not to use the Soviet name. In addition, they do not jump with parachutes, so they have "airmobile" troops. However, they still left something: vests, berets and, it seems, even the song "blue on shoulder straps."
      1. 26rus
        26rus 3 August 2014 17: 03
        +3
        Just don't cling to other people's symbols ... Let them take for themselves instead of vests and berets, embroidered shirts, colored bloomers, and, well, some song about "blueness".
        Quote: enot73
        However, they still left something: vests, berets and, it seems, even the song "blue on shoulder straps".
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  9. askof
    3 August 2014 12: 15
    +5
    But what if there were no reconnaissance battalions in the VDD? And there were only companies? or what how?


    Shamans: MOREthree reconnaissance battalions. That is, they were, but it will be on 3 more.
    1. subbtin.725
      subbtin.725 3 August 2014 12: 53
      +4
      Quote: askof
      Shamans: STILL three reconnaissance battalions. That is, they were, but it will be 3 more.

      You got it right, EVEN Three: The Airborne Forces are growing with special forces ..., it’s gratifying.
    2. RusDV
      RusDV 3 August 2014 13: 18
      +1
      During the military reform of the Russian Armed Forces, which began in 2008, plans to transfer the structure from divisional to brigade were canceled. The disbanding of the 106th Airborne Division in Tula was also halted. Among the many transformations were:

      reduction of 26 military units
      40% reduction in officers
      return to the primary manning of the Airborne Forces by conscription
      formation of anti-aircraft missile regiments as part of the divisions
      Airborne Air Force transfer to the Air Force

      All airborne divisions have a unified structure and are fully deployed throughout the state.

      The structure of the division is as follows (option):

      management (headquarters)
      two regiments, three battalions each
      artillery regiment
      anti-aircraft missile regiment
      engineering battalion
      communications battalion
      repair battalion
      logistics battalion
      reconnaissance company
      medical squad (airmobile)
      1. commbatant
        commbatant 5 August 2014 22: 48
        0
        All airborne divisions have a unified structure and are fully deployed throughout the state.

        The structure of the division is as follows (option):

        management (headquarters)
        two regiments, three battalions each
        artillery regiment
        anti-aircraft missile regiment
        engineering battalion
        communications battalion
        repair battalion
        logistics battalion
        reconnaissance company
        medical squad (airmobile) [/ quote]
  10. igor1981
    igor1981 3 August 2014 12: 15
    +4
    A very correct, necessary and timely solution. good
  11. kodxnumx
    kodxnumx 3 August 2014 12: 16
    +2
    Russian Airborne Forces should completely rearm and get the best of everything that is in the Russian military-industrial complex, and that the introduction of three new reconnaissance battalions is very correct I think if the Airborne Forces have their own Air Force this is another plus, the stronger and more mobile the Airborne the stronger on the battlefield!
  12. vlad-ns
    vlad-ns 3 August 2014 12: 18
    -2
    It is strange that many airborne troops did not volunteer in Novorossia. Or is the Russian spirit no longer the same, or are the strengths of the brothers not the same?
    Meanwhile, volunteers (I note, not mercenaries!) Often go to Novorossiya who never served in the Airborne Forces.
    The Chechens showed a good example of what to do when the brothers were in trouble.
    1. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 3 August 2014 12: 32
      +18
      Quote: vlad-ns
      It is strange that many airborne troops did not volunteer in Novorossia. Or is the Russian spirit no longer the same, or are the strengths of the brothers not the same?
      Meanwhile, volunteers (I note, not mercenaries!) Often go to Novorossiya who never served in the Airborne Forces.
      The Chechens showed a good example of what to do when the brothers were in trouble.


      I’m certainly not a paratrooper, but I won’t give an offense to the airborne forces, carefully watch the video from 0: 22

      1. vlad-ns
        vlad-ns 3 August 2014 12: 46
        -8
        The video is good, and it’s impossible not to respect these guys!
        But they are there E D I N I C S.
        Look how much went to celebrate Airborne Forces Day! Are these those who live by order?
        B.L.Ya. their relatives in Ukraine (for example) will begin to cut dill, and they will wait for orders to stand up for them? Read my comment again, and then THINK WHAT TO WRITE!
        1. vinc
          vinc 3 August 2014 12: 57
          0
          Already there (in Ukraine) it was that you are breeding insanity here, telling someone and what to do. The deputy-liberal was not otherwise.
        2. waisson
          waisson 3 August 2014 13: 33
          +14
          Yesterday came out and such soldier
      2. shimus
        shimus 4 August 2014 07: 25
        +1
        Honestly, nobly, the last Chinese warning! Personally, I, in life, warn only 3 times! The first time I ask, the second time I persuade, the third time I insist, and then, sorry, my brain goes into self-preservation mode, which means that my mind, pity and compassion are turned off!
        The militia said everything correctly, dill is a bunch of bespectacled people who at first feel like heroes, shooting at women and children, and when their militias are bolted to the wall, they immediately scream that they are unshooted youths and that they were mobilized against their will and so on. Further. DO NOT BELIEVE THIS! Those who did not want to go against conscience, they dumped, some of the units who pretended to be dead after the battle and crawled to the other side, all who did not want blood found a way to leave, all who remained were ENEMIES, no negotiations! All while trying to escape! They don’t really stand on ceremony with captured militias!
    2. Volxov
      Volxov 3 August 2014 15: 38
      -11
      Quote: vlad-ns
      It is strange that many airborne troops did not volunteer in Novorossia.
      There is nothing strange here - "Novorossiya" is the mobilization of Donbass residents into the militia and the withdrawal of refugees to the Russian Federation to participate in the autumn war in the Middle East (refugees will replace those mobilized at work), and the airborne troops are already here and can be summoned by the agenda without unleashing a civil war.
      They will withdraw the refugees - they will call the storerooms.
      Again I hunched over the boys, I rushing like a boa constrictor. I'll drive in comments.
      1. GRAY
        GRAY 3 August 2014 15: 45
        +6
        Quote: Wolf
        to participate in the autumn war in the Middle East

        Tie with substances.
        1. Volxov
          Volxov 3 August 2014 15: 53
          0
          But the sleepy kingdom woke up ... the attendant issued a creative!
      2. Victorio
        Victorio 4 August 2014 00: 37
        0
        gloomy forecast
      3. Volxov
        Volxov 4 August 2014 14: 41
        0
        Quote: Wolf
        Again I hunched over the boys, I rushing like a boa constrictor. I'll drive in comments.

        Moderator Alexander Romanov went to work and described his plans in this line.
        Really shot - instead of his comments he writes in mine. When the NKVD executors went crazy after the executions, they tried to treat them in sanatoriums and demanded respect from the personnel, since "our comrade suffered while performing his official duties." Only 1 (20 executions) was not injured, who observed safety precautions - always wearing a thick leather cloak, glasses, a leather helmet and did not drink - rose to the rank of major general.
        For health reasons, give the "Romanov" a helmet and a coat at work - the sanatorium will be more expensive.
  13. andrei332809
    andrei332809 3 August 2014 12: 18
    +2
    well, there will be ... and well ... but why bawl about this at every corner? Why make life easier for our "crap friends"?
  14. enot73
    enot73 3 August 2014 12: 18
    +3
    This, as I understand it, is the special forces of the Airborne Forces. Good . if these reconnaissance battalions receive in the necessary volume new equipment and weapons.
    1. chunga-changa
      chunga-changa 3 August 2014 12: 28
      +6
      Airborne Special Forces is a separate regiment in Kubinka. In the USSR, a reconnaissance company was in the state of the Airborne Division. And this is some kind of experiment, or found out that the company is not enough. In any case, Shamanov will not be an intelligent commander and will not deal with nonsense.
      1. figter
        figter 3 August 2014 17: 10
        +3
        chunga-changa (2) SU Today, 12: 28 ↑ New
        Airborne Special Forces is a separate regiment in Kubinka. In the USSR, a reconnaissance company was in the state of the Airborne Division. And this is some kind of experiment, or found out that the company is not enough. In any case, Shamanov will not be an intelligent commander and will not deal with nonsense.

        Yes, they will add to the reconnaissance company a company of electronic intelligence (rERR) and call it all a battalion. That is all love. What do you breed polemics. This is a desire to strengthen officers in the intelligence of the division, because there will be one more lieutenant colonel, a couple of major and one more captain’s position instead of one captain’s, to be more experienced, a change and continuity existed.
        1. chunga-changa
          chunga-changa 3 August 2014 22: 12
          0
          A good idea, I somehow did not think about it. Plus you.
    2. subbtin.725
      subbtin.725 3 August 2014 13: 02
      +1
      Quote: enot73
      This, as I understand it, is the special forces of the Airborne Forces. Good . if these reconnaissance battalions receive in the necessary volume new equipment and weapons.


      Rogozin said that the special forces will receive everything they want from the latest military-industrial complex products, and what equipment awaits them; in principle, the re-equipment process is already in full swing.
  15. Narkom
    Narkom 3 August 2014 12: 22
    +1
    And where did the intelligence regiment of 106 go ??? Managed to disband along with the helicopter?
  16. rassom
    rassom 3 August 2014 12: 24
    0
    Good news!
  17. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 3 August 2014 12: 26
    +2
    Better to have three reconnaissance battalions than three combat engineer battalions at the construction sites of summer cottages for generals and admirals.
    1. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 3 August 2014 12: 34
      +2
      Quote: A1L9E4K9S
      Better to have three reconnaissance battalions than three combat engineer battalions at the construction sites of summer cottages for generals and admirals.


      But isn’t that already left in 90's?
      1. abc_02
        abc_02 3 August 2014 12: 58
        +1
        There was no left, even in the middle of the zero it was for sure. and construction sites and wagons, etc. etc.
        As I understand it, on the basis of the OPP will be completed.
  18. RUSLAT
    RUSLAT 3 August 2014 12: 26
    +4
    76-Pskov is a must. NATO is just around the corner, only 50 km to the border. And from there, from the EU, expect any dirty tricks. They just reported that in the Baltic States reservists are gathering tomorrow, as it were for exercises, with things, for a week ......
  19. renahazarova
    renahazarova 3 August 2014 12: 27
    +3
    Russia must urgently restore the Soviet nuclear potential: and more Kuzin mothers !!!
  20. Vend
    Vend 3 August 2014 12: 28
    0
    Shavanov spoke very much, many interesting things were said, why such a scanty essay?
  21. Veteran of the Red Army
    Veteran of the Red Army 3 August 2014 12: 29
    +14
    By December 1, along with the 45th Special Forces Brigade, three more separate reconnaissance battalions will be formed in three of our divisions: in two Airborne Assault (76th Pskov and 7th Novorossiysk) and in one Airborne (106- I'm Tula)


    We must prepare to carry out the order of the Supreme Commander.

    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/782/doer21.jpg
  22. sever.56
    sever.56 3 August 2014 12: 31
    +22
    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/340/pnhj877.jpg
  23. pinecone
    pinecone 3 August 2014 12: 38
    +3
    That would be whom to appoint the Minister of Defense. Happy holiday and good health to you, Comrade Colonel General!
    1. enot73
      enot73 3 August 2014 14: 04
      +1
      Quote: pinecone
      That’s whom to appoint the Minister of Defense
      And why didn’t you please Shoigu?
      1. Volxov
        Volxov 3 August 2014 15: 41
        0
        Quote: enot73
        And why didn’t you please Shoigu?

        Rituals ..............
        1. GRAY
          GRAY 3 August 2014 15: 55
          +8
          Quote: Wolf
          Quote: enot73
          And why didn’t you please Shoigu?

          Rituals ..............

    2. jPilot
      jPilot 3 August 2014 21: 45
      0
      They suggested in my opinion in 2008 when Govnyukov was suspended for a while, refused, then this woodpecker was returned.
  24. Old warrant officer
    Old warrant officer 3 August 2014 12: 39
    +9
    Quote: mig31
    the most airmobile
    - The reputation of this phrase is greatly spoiled by the events in the south-east of Ukraine. Let our airborne forces will be just airborne or landing! Happy holiday to all again!
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 3 August 2014 13: 08
      +3
      The name "airmobile" is lapped up from the NATO standard. Let it be as before - the Airborne Troops. Sounds. And ours. soldier
  25. tag17
    tag17 3 August 2014 12: 40
    +1
    And this is correct and timely.
  26. Alser
    Alser 3 August 2014 12: 40
    +4
    A real Russian soldier. Especially true are the words about the commander’s order, which will be executed in accordance with the charter, implicitly, quickly and on time.
  27. Aandrewsir
    Aandrewsir 3 August 2014 12: 41
    +1
    We are making the right steps! The armed forces must be strengthened. And the strengthening of the Airborne Forces, the "spearhead" of our Armed Forces is doubly correct !!!
  28. Enot-poloskun
    Enot-poloskun 3 August 2014 12: 41
    +7
    Geyropeytsy suicides:

    In St. Petersburg, an almost 10-second protest rally was held, the organizer of which - gay activist Kalugin - was detained by police. At the same time, he tried to hold a picket right among the paratroopers celebrating the day of the Airborne Forces, from which, apparently, operational detention saved him from the conflict.
    1. pahom54
      pahom54 3 August 2014 14: 00
      +1
      for enot-poloskun
      Well this was a kamikaze ... But the police did not understand ... They saved ... For what ???
    2. Victor Demchenko
      Victor Demchenko 3 August 2014 16: 17
      0
      bliiiin! didn’t have time, why did they delay it? !!!! even if he bleated, maybe then he would go to the dentist ... good happy holiday bros !!! health and good luck! and in New Russia we WILL BE! drinks
      1. Enot-poloskun
        Enot-poloskun 3 August 2014 17: 43
        0
        Would you really get your hands dirty about this comrade?
  29. USSR 1971
    USSR 1971 3 August 2014 12: 42
    +1
    Keep it up!
  30. kot28.ru
    kot28.ru 3 August 2014 12: 45
    +11
    Quote: ya.seliwerstov2013
    Do not Busy Obama!
    You are completely swollen!
    Al recognize instantly!
    You are our Russian spirit !!!
    Eggplant August 3rd! soldier It’s good that today is Sunday !!! drinks
    1. Consul-t
      Consul-t 3 August 2014 16: 22
      +1
      I think that the Americans are smacking our sites.
      It is interesting to see their reaction after seeing this photo))))
      Report to Obama how he retouched?)))
  31. Andrey92
    Andrey92 3 August 2014 12: 47
    +4
    Strengthening the structure of the Airborne Forces is a good and very necessary matter, but you should not forget about other types of troops. After all, each kind of troops fulfills its task, and victory is achieved through their interaction.
  32. Vadim12
    Vadim12 3 August 2014 12: 51
    +1
    Very well! No international law exists, this is a fairy tale for the naive. There is only power, everyone understands it, even the most stubborn.
  33. kirqiz ssr
    kirqiz ssr 3 August 2014 12: 57
    +2
    under the USSR, how many total airborne divisions were I know some who can complement the Vitebsk Pskov Ryazan Tula Ferghana Kapchagai brigade who will supplement.
    1. thinker
      thinker 3 August 2014 13: 11
      +2
      Everybody is here. http://vdv-crimea.org.ua/?p=1169
  34. Mishanya 84
    Mishanya 84 3 August 2014 13: 01
    +1
    Good news!!!! drinks
  35. kot28.ru
    kot28.ru 3 August 2014 13: 01
    0
    Quote: Kirqiz SSR
    under the USSR, how many total airborne divisions were I know some who can complement the Vitebsk Pskov Ryazan Tula Ferghana Kapchagai brigade who will supplement.

    83 Airborne Brigade, transferred from Poland, Bialogard, in 1989 to Ussuriysk! There is also a deployment of 14 OBRSPn! hi
    1. VNP1958PVN
      VNP1958PVN 3 August 2014 13: 05
      0
      Is it a spy?
  36. Yun Klob
    Yun Klob 3 August 2014 13: 07
    +3
    Serdyukovskaya snubbed, now to create a new one. Freak unsettled.
  37. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 3 August 2014 13: 07
    0
    In connection with the complicated situation, as if before it was not necessary to form new divisions ...
  38. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 3 August 2014 13: 08
    +3
    Quote: pinecone
    That’s whom to appoint the Minister of Defense


    It’s not necessary, Vladimir Shamanov is in his place, the military general, the hero of Russia, doesn’t have to do chores, and he tried, he worked as the governor of the Ulyanovsk region, I will tell you frankly not this element, his element is military troops.
  39. sv68
    sv68 3 August 2014 13: 12
    +1
    I hope that in addition to reconnaissance battalions in the Airborne Forces there will be other subdivisions, well, let's say a couple of brigades am
  40. waisson
    waisson 3 August 2014 13: 25
    +6
    ---------------- soldier
    1. Igool
      Igool 4 August 2014 03: 20
      +3
      March 8 is not always for those who have not served, but what about them?
      Our girls, our beauties - they have a double holiday on March 8 and August 2
      1. Yun Klob
        Yun Klob 5 August 2014 18: 38
        0
        Well done. All girls should take an example from her!
  41. SEK
    SEK 3 August 2014 13: 27
    +3
    The fact that the Airborne Forces is strengthening is good. They wouldn’t forget about the Marine Corps.
  42. pahom54
    pahom54 3 August 2014 13: 34
    0
    Though a little off topic, but the encircled group of Ukrainian security officials began negotiations with the militias on the terms of surrender !!!
  43. The Art of War
    The Art of War 3 August 2014 13: 34
    +3
    I DO NOT APPLY TO THE TOPIC! ANALYTICS
  44. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 3 August 2014 13: 34
    0
    Good news. Marines are also needed for reconnaissance and sabotage operations. It’s a pity to use such guys in combined arms battles, and their armor is too light for this.
    And what is being called up for reservists in the Baltic States for a week - their army of 5 in size (total!) Will greatly strengthen this. laughing
  45. dauria
    dauria 3 August 2014 13: 34
    +19
    By God, tired of it. The rest, except for the landing for the soldiers do not think? OVE in Kunduz was attached to motorized rifles. They were also landed in a landing way. What tankers are not needed? Or military air defense? Communication, sappers, engineers, road and rail transport? Who will restore the bombed takeoffs, railways, bridges? How through the Dnieper? Swim on straw again? How many echelons of shells were needed during the assault on Koenigsberg, who unloaded them, robots? Do you need a fleet, Strategic Missile Forces, aviation? And who will wipe your asses in sanbats and hospitals, are also not needed? The holiday of the Airborne Forces was yesterday, I congratulated my neighbor. And today, be so kind as you are.
    1. Khan
      Khan 3 August 2014 14: 11
      +5
      I completely agree with the mission of the Airborne Forces to engage in strategic bridgeheads, reconnaissance and sabotage. And infantry always and everywhere wins wars.
    2. sabakina
      sabakina 3 August 2014 14: 20
      +5
      What are you boiling for? Does anyone detract from the role of other military branches?
      1. dauria
        dauria 3 August 2014 14: 58
        +6
        This is so for young people. Burst out ... We decided that the guys from the Bundeswehr striped t-shirts would be scared. If they are shot, but they are even cowards with peas, until you put a kilogram of iron in your throat, they will not run.
      2. The Art of War
        The Art of War 3 August 2014 15: 45
        +1
        EACH KIND IS A TRAIN OF ITS TASKS! soldier
  46. svp67
    svp67 3 August 2014 13: 35
    0
    “By December 1, along with the 45 th Special Forces Brigade, three more separate reconnaissance battalions will be formed in three of our divisions: in two assault landing (76-I Pskov and 7-I Novorossiysk) and in one airborne (106 th Tula) "
    Well, thank God, otherwise the "couch ukrovoy" brigade 45 was not once defeated ... And then by the end of the year we will have three reconnaissance battalions ... "Smash" will be tortured.
  47. bmv04636
    bmv04636 3 August 2014 13: 37
    0
    They say they began to design a new truck for the Airborne Forces. The project involves KAMAZ and Research Institute Special Steel.
  48. waisson
    waisson 3 August 2014 13: 40
    +7
    -------------- soldier
    1. Loner_53
      Loner_53 3 August 2014 13: 46
      +3
      GREAT PERSON!!! soldier
  49. tomket
    tomket 3 August 2014 13: 43
    0
    and who will explain what the concept of using airborne forces is now? Landing in the rear with large BTA formations? Or are we fighting as infantry? If as an infantry, then is it worth then to fence a vegetable garden with all these BMD and other "Octopus" and lightly armored vehicles?
  50. tundra
    tundra 3 August 2014 13: 44
    0
    Enlighten, please, what is the difference between an air assault and an airborne division. I don’t really know. Thanks in advance.
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 3 August 2014 14: 23
      +3
      "storm troopers" go first. And they rake more than others. followed by the main ...
      1. Hleb
        Hleb 3 August 2014 14: 29
        +3
        with respect to paratrooper subunits, in principle, this is the case, but with the proviso that reconnaissance always "goes" and rakes it off first.
        1. wanderer_032
          wanderer_032 4 August 2014 07: 28
          +1
          Quote: Gleb
          with respect to paratrooper subunits, in principle, this is the case, but with the proviso that reconnaissance always "goes" and rakes it off first.


          Moreover, this is reconnaissance, by no means always reconnaissance units of the airborne forces.
          Intelligence is collected through a complex system, dozens of departments, administrations, units participate in this work.
          This is done by tens of thousands of people. And the reconnaissance unit of the Airborne Forces is far from the very first source in this chain.