Commissar of Kiev: the problem with the call in the army of reservists exists

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The military commissar of the city of Kiev, Vladimir Kidon, acknowledged that the problem of evading mobilization and the reluctance to appear at military enlistment offices in Ukraine exists. He writes about it RIA News with reference to the Ukrainian media.

Commissar of Kiev: the problem with the call in the army of reservists exists


As you know, President Poroshenko 23 July signed a law on partial mobilization in all regions of Ukraine. The representative of the Security Council of Ukraine said earlier that about 20 of thousands of reservists with peacekeeping experience live in the country, and that they will be drafted into the army in the first place.

But so far is not very.

“There is already a third phase of mobilization deployment, in accordance with a presidential decree adopted by the Verkhovna Rada ... The problem is that many people evade (from service) do not want to go. By any means and methods they try not to get the agenda, they try to leave the territory of their place of residence ”
complained to the Ukrainian UNIAN Kiev military commissar.

According to the agency, during the mobilization, “a lot of cases of military service evasion from service, not wishing to be subpoenas” were referred to the prosecutor’s office. All deviationists face serious proceedings.

The publication writes that Kidon was forced to turn to the leadership of Kiev enterprises, organizations and educational institutions with a request "to identify those employees who are not registered with the military, do not have the right to postpone, and send them to the military commissariat."

Meanwhile, the mothers of the military continue to protest against sending their children to the war zone. So, on July 20, women from the village of Gamaliyivka (Lviv region) blocked the Kiev-Chop highway, demanding to return home to the wounded soldiers.
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  1. +31
    1 August 2014 20: 10
    Even in these zombie heads it begins to reach what meat grinder they are sent to.
    1. -38
      1 August 2014 20: 14
      Meanwhile, the mothers of the military continue to protest against sending their children to the war zone.


      And then more. Svidomye begin to understand little by little that in addition to death, their children and husbands in Novorossia do not fool about anything. At worst, cripples will return, which is also not good.
      1. +4
        1 August 2014 20: 19
        subbtin.725 (1) SU  Today, 20: 14


        ,,, Are you talking about the teachings of the reservists in the Russian Federation? (photo) ,, crying
        1. +19
          1 August 2014 20: 33
          Well, and these begin to see clearly?))
          However, it is logical, at first the State Department hosts with missiles, and now Svidomo with an appeal!
          It seems that Poroshenko’s plan for harvesting Svidomo smoked bacon ran into an unforeseen obstacle: Maidan-boars rebelled! Colorado also shoots to be defeated ...
          By the way, earlier NATO recognized that the Ukrainians fired ballistic missiles, that the grass is green, the sky is blue, and the water is wet! .. The last fact is still at the stage of clarifying details, experts say the US State Department! ..
          1. +14
            1 August 2014 20: 54
            By the way, what can Svidomo ukrorekrutam count on with such and such a name of the military commissar? The fact that they will not be "thrown"? !!
            It’s disgusting that the protests are organized by the Svidomo mothers not for the end of the war, but for the fact that their sons-punishers will be given "armor" and dry rations, and reinforcements with rotation! Not for peace, but for a better equipped war! .. And these are women? !!
            1. +12
              1 August 2014 21: 15
              The most precious thing in man is life. It is given to him once, and it is necessary to live it in such a way that there is no excruciatingly embarrassing shame for aimlessly lived years, so as not to shame for the petty and petty past ...
              1. +1
                2 August 2014 00: 38
                drinks It should be!!!
                1. +3
                  2 August 2014 16: 51
                  Quote: herruvim
                  The most precious thing in man is life. It is given to him once, and it is necessary to live it in such a way that there is no excruciatingly embarrassing shame for aimlessly lived years, so as not to shame for the petty and petty past ...


                  Quote: Mig 31
                  It should be!!!


                  Few are ashamed of the dill for what is happening.
          2. +14
            1 August 2014 21: 07
            I think Svidomo is still far away from his epiphany, they pissed off when they got scared, when they sensed that they would have to fight for nastoyasche.Eto not on the Maidan defenseless "berkutovtsev" "cocktail" pour.
            1. +5
              2 August 2014 07: 32
              If it continues at such a pace, then in Ukraine there will remain only those who are at war and those who are sitting on draft evasion. And who will work?
              The people stocked up with popcorn and conveniently sat in front of the TV to watch the war game, and here they themselves were driven to fight. Well then!
              They have already forgotten that Ukraine is Europe, and that they are Maidan type against the power of the oligarchs. Here is such a people there.
          3. +3
            2 August 2014 14: 48
            Well, and these begin to see clearly?))


            How do prophecies come true on the Ukrainian question of the author of the "Red Wheel"


            Written in 1968, published in 1974 (ARCHIPELAG GULAG, Part Five, chapter 2):
            ... With Ukraine it will be extremely painful. But you need to know their overall intensity now. Once it has not been settled over the centuries, it means that it has fallen to show prudence to us. We must give the decision to ourselves - federalists or separatists, who will convince anyone of them. Do not give in - madness and cruelty. And the softer, the more tolerant, the more explanatory we are now, the more hope there will be to restore unity in the future.

            Let them live, try. They will quickly feel that not all problems are resolved by the department.
            (Due to the fact that in different regions of Ukraine there is a different ratio of those who consider themselves to be Ukrainian, and who are Russian, and who do not consider anyone, there will be many difficulties. Maybe each region will need its own plebiscite and then preferential and careful attitude to everyone who wants to move. Not all of Ukraine in its current Soviet formal borders is really Ukraine. Some left-bank regions certainly gravitate towards Russia. And Crimea attributed Khrushchev to Ukraine and even oak. And Carpathian (Chervonnaya) Russia? Let’s check on it: demanding joint venture self-love, how fair will Ukrainians be to the Carpathian Russians?) ...
            1. Zlata
              -9
              3 August 2014 00: 09
              Yes, the smartest man was Alexander Isaevich Solzhenitsyn. Some admirers of Stalin, of whom there are many in VO, would have read him, maybe something would have cleared up in his head, and would have stopped carrying a blizzard about the "great leader" and minus everyone who disagrees with them.
              1. Yew
                +12
                3 August 2014 04: 50
                Yes, the smartest man was Alexander Isaevich Solzhenitsyn. Some admirers of Stalin, of whom there are many in VO, would have read him, maybe something would have cleared up in his head, and would have stopped carrying a blizzard about the "great leader" and minus everyone who disagrees with them.
                This smartest in the years 76-78. bleating from the American stands, "very much asked" our "partners" to physically destroy the USSR (preferably with a nuclear bomb), that is, my country. There is a video even in the Internet, admire your idol !!!
                It’s not worth talking about his "NON-PROPER" figures ...-)))
                And what prophecies are we talking about?!? Such as he called for tearing Ukraine back then in the 70s. There were obvious problems, the prophets of Solzhenitsyn spun them even more, and their last ones were executed in the 91st. The system is one ... create a problem, and if it materializes to give it out as inevitable-)))
                If you stomp around the rooms in dirty boots, then the dirt in the house is guaranteed ... and they stomp.
                1. nvv
                  nvv
                  0
                  3 August 2014 05: 38
                  Why are you talking about Solzhenitsen? He was a smart man. They don’t hold fools there. I don’t put gold, minus. You will understand when you grow up.
                  1. +4
                    3 August 2014 07: 50
                    Clever bastard! Is not it? As much as this black-headed, embittered little man did with his speech, and for Novoruss, for the collapse of the USSR, no one did.
                    1. Zlata
                      0
                      4 August 2014 14: 54
                      YES YOU WHAT! You can ask a question - your idol Stalin, right?
                      1. Bloody attendant
                        0
                        5 August 2014 14: 25
                        About twenty years I blasphemed Russian cinema, communists, Stalin, etc. And now, in such a troubled time, I realized: THERE IS NOTHING FOR ME, EXCEPT THE HOMELAND! And this is the homeland - Russians and Russians, our land and our history. As much as Koba did for Russia (and he was Georgian !!!) not a single Russian Tsar did. During his reign, Russian (Soviet) people became equal, became happy, educated and provided with everything necessary. Everyone was afraid of the USSR !!! Not because we are fools, bears, etc. But because we are RUSSIANS! And Koba I is for me the first and real King! There is no need to talk about conspiracies of doctors, about links and the Gulag. You don’t know anything about it now. From time immemorial EVERYONE wanted to tear Russia apart. And only a poor, battered, Georgian boy could break the intervention, break the conspiracy against Russia. My grandparents remembered that time and cried when their king-father died. Russia without a king is not Russia.
                  2. Zlata
                    +1
                    4 August 2014 14: 50
                    Thank you for your honest position. Most prefer to minus behind.
                2. Zlata
                  0
                  4 August 2014 14: 58
                  That's how he said, "Throw a nuclear bomb on the USSR!", Right? VIDEO TO THE STUDIO, please. About "dirty boots" - you know how the Ukronazis start to get mad when you start talking about WHAT is their wonderful hero Bandera? It is like an icon for them, and don't touch it, don't get it dirty! Like Stalin, he is an icon for our communists. They do not care that he killed so many people and covered the whole country with blood. He is an icon, an ideal for them. Zyuganov is an intelligent person, and I would subscribe to much of what he says, but when I go to the Communist Party website, I see the same nonsense, the same ideology about the great Lenin and Stalin. That is why the name of Solzhenitsyn for the communists is like a red rag for a bull.
                3. Bloody attendant
                  0
                  5 August 2014 14: 16
                  That's right you said. Look at my post if you want.
                4. Bloody attendant
                  -1
                  5 August 2014 14: 31
                  Solzhenitsyn wrote with the hands of a dissident what he saw with his own eyes the dissident. That's all. Clever man - RRRRRR will never abandon his homeland.
              2. Bloody attendant
                0
                5 August 2014 14: 14
                Solzhenitsyn and the rest of the stinky presidents - 5 column. Their place in the Gulag. Joseph Vissarionovich the great man - King Koba 1. And he was for many years. And poisoned stinkers and talkers. Stalin personally did not shoot a single person, did not destroy his soul, did not give out idiotic orders. Stalin then, like Putin now. All Western obscurantism, the bastard Khrushchev ruined all the affairs of Stalin. Read carefully the work of Stalin. Read in neutral - as an ancient story. And then you will understand who KOBA was. Anti-Russian trash denigrated his name.
        2. +3
          1 August 2014 21: 30
          Enough already "minus", well, the person did not look, did not look, but what is written in the picture, what, under his skull? With whom it does not happen, I wanted the best ...
          1. +6
            2 August 2014 13: 24
            This is not the case. The word kills. Information war. Klitschko "on camera" also made a reservation instead of "preparing for winter" "preparing for the ground." Symbolically, right considering the political moment? And some conscript soldier wrote in a blog that his unit was shelling Ukrainian territory. If the situation were calm, such reservations would not have attracted attention. I urge myself and members of the forum to treat messages responsibly.
        3. +1
          1 August 2014 21: 53
          Let the Rada set an example of how in Russia the LDPR party is going to mobilize, regardless of age (as Zhirinovsky said today).
        4. +15
          1 August 2014 23: 45
          1 August 2014, Friday, 23: 29
          Ukrainian MPs said returning soldiers would cut them
          A deputy of the Chernihiv city council, regional Alexander Kovalev proposed to ban the sale of alcohol in the evening. He is sure that the soldiers who returned from the punitive war will kill civilians if they get drunk. Obviously, the deputy had in mind primarily the representatives of the authorities themselves.
          “The participants in the operation will return with an injured psyche and can, after drinking in the evening, shoot or kill someone,” the deputy said at the session.
          He called for stopping the sale of alcohol in stores with 22 hours, in restaurants and bars - with 23. Kovalev immediately found an ally in the person of the mayor Alexander Sokolov, who ordered the creation of an appropriate commission.
          The deputies are not far from the truth in their fears, but they do not take into account the fact that for the authorities who plunged the country into a civil war, it is now not so much the soldiers with an injured psyche that are dangerous, as ordinary citizens who are already starting to rebel due to the stifling increase in utility tariffs.
          1. +22
            2 August 2014 00: 47
            In my opinion, the main thing here is that all these rallies are not against the WAR, but just so that their children are not taken away !! Such a feeling "Kill smash all Russians but not our children and husbands !!!!
            1. +7
              2 August 2014 08: 07
              Quote: Mig 31
              "Kill smash all Russians but not with our children and husbands !!!!

              In the Ukrainian understanding of the meaning of life, this is justice.
            2. +4
              3 August 2014 00: 53
              The main argument of indignation was that the men are not paid money and poorly fed. Here is such a squiggle.
          2. +3
            2 August 2014 14: 55
            Why forbid, it is we "quilted jackets" whipping buckets of water, and they svidomye eat it.
          3. 0
            4 August 2014 13: 53
            Yes, the outskirts - wonderland just ...
        5. Edward
          0
          3 August 2014 09: 19
          no about meat fascist something that will rot in the fields of Donetsk region
      2. Makosha
        +9
        1 August 2014 20: 27
        Quote: subbtin.725
        Meanwhile, the mothers of the military continue to protest against sending their children to the war zone.

        It seems that only their mothers are fighting against the draft. And many of them themselves go there - sometimes for ideological reasons - like, "Nenka" to protect, - then - for economic reasons - they pay the same.
        Quote: subbtin.725
        Svidomo gradually begin to understand that in addition to death, their children and husbands in Novorossia do not invent anything. At worst, cripples will return, which is also not good.

        According to reports from the militias, it’s already crippled - not for the worst, but for the best. And then it is possible and unidentifiable slander. recourse
      3. +1
        1 August 2014 20: 29
        We follow the bazaar
      4. +8
        1 August 2014 20: 56
        Before posting something, check! Write about the Ukrainians, and the crested meme themselves posted ... negative
      5. +2
        1 August 2014 21: 17
        Absolutely sick ali how? fool
      6. ComradeMauser
        +7
        1 August 2014 21: 26
        Judging by the text of the post, you seem to be reasoning correctly ... But the inserted photo ... Forces you to put a couple dozen minuses ...
      7. 0
        2 August 2014 10: 44
        Something your photograph does not match the meaning of the text. wink
      8. 0
        4 August 2014 17: 17
        And what, in the Crimea there are now many Bandera? request
      9. Bloody attendant
        -1
        5 August 2014 14: 05
        and why did you guys go crazy? Did the guys lie?!?! Question to all!
    2. Caa
      +11
      1 August 2014 20: 18
      It seemed to me that he was surprised by this fact. Is it really that ideological? Nobody wants to die - after all, they have no idea for which they would not be sorry to die. They themselves are well aware that their whole ideology is simply to be mattress mongrels against Russia. And in such a situation, to KILL - they would be happy, but to DIE - no way. And if the militias reach Kiev, all these "jumpers" will surrender and break the junta themselves.

      Once again: they are not patriots, but ideless mongrels. Many would like to believe that they are simply "under-zombified" or "normal at heart", but the reality is different: how knots fall under a strong cable.
    3. raccoon
      +78
      1 August 2014 20: 19
      In the maternity hospital they mixed up the children of Russian, German and Ukrainian. They started to understand: first - a German came up:
      - Heil Hitler !!! Looks, one hand threw up. Takes the son. Then the Russian comes up and, without saying a word, takes one of the remaining children.
      Ukrainian:
      “Why are you taking it?” How do you know that this is yours?
      Russian:
      - And because when the German said "Heil Hitler", my fists clenched, and your crap!
      1. raccoon
        +102
        1 August 2014 20: 28
        It was me 300 who lived under the Mongol-Tatars for years - but where are those Mongol-Tatars now?
        I burned Moscow so as not to give it to Napoleon Bonaparte - but how did Bonaparte finish?
        I was sitting in a trench near Volokolamsk, in Stalingrad, and burning in a tank near Kursk, realizing that it was incredibly difficult, almost impossible to keep the Germans, but in a different way - where are the Germans today, where is their Hitler?
        I’m a soldier, but in civilized Europe they didn’t know about it, therefore it was to my house that everyone who was not lazy came. Turks, British, Poles, Germans, French .... There was enough land for everyone - 2,5 meters for each. The Americans are really afraid to come, they are hoping for rockets and a fifth column, but for them we have a lot of land - enough for everyone, in abundance.
        I was, is and will be a Russian soldier - I don't need someone else's, but I will never give mine to anyone. I don't need your hypocritical "freedom" - the freedom from being human. To be human, I do not need your rotten democracy of capitalism, your two-faced concepts and all that you call Western "values" are alien to me - perversions, vices, deception and endless greed. I have other interests. Russian people are more interested in space, education, medicine, science and the development of the creative abilities of each person. The Russian person likes to create. I politely warn you one last time. Do not get in my way - I am building the world, I love the world, but I know how to fight better than anyone else. Best regards, Russian soldier.
        1. +15
          1 August 2014 21: 01
          Quote: raccoon
          It was me 300 who lived under the Mongol-Tatars for years - but where are those Mongol-Tatars now?
          I burned Moscow so as not to give it to Napoleon Bonaparte - but how did Bonaparte finish?
          I was sitting in a trench near Volokolamsk, in Stalingrad, and burning in a tank near Kursk, realizing that it was incredibly difficult, almost impossible to keep the Germans, but in a different way - where are the Germans today, where is their Hitler?
          I’m a soldier, but in civilized Europe they didn’t know about it, therefore it was to my house that everyone who was not lazy came. Turks, British, Poles, Germans, French .... There was enough land for everyone - 2,5 meters for each. The Americans are really afraid to come, they are hoping for rockets and a fifth column, but for them we have a lot of land - enough for everyone, in abundance.
          I was, is and will be a Russian soldier - I don't need someone else's, but I will never give mine to anyone. I don't need your hypocritical "freedom" - the freedom from being human. To be human, I do not need your rotten democracy of capitalism, your two-faced concepts and all that you call Western "values" are alien to me - perversions, vices, deception and endless greed. I have other interests. Russian people are more interested in space, education, medicine, science and the development of the creative abilities of each person. The Russian person likes to create. I politely warn you one last time. Do not get in my way - I am building the world, I love the world, but I know how to fight better than anyone else. Best regards, Russian soldier.

          Well, I, in which case, with you. How to call - you’ll realize, not small.
          1. +13
            1 August 2014 21: 21
            Take the third? Well, bring shells?
            Sorry, just Friday ...
            1. SSR
              +2
              1 August 2014 23: 25
              Quote: sabakina
              Take the third? Well, bring shells?
              Sorry, just Friday ...

              Excuse me, please. Are you a dog or a dog? I just got confused reading the comments of a woman or a man, as this implies the perception of what someone wrote and how. That's something like that, because when a woman makes a mistake and talks about F1 as about rgd and about rgd as about rpg, this is one thing and if it is easy it is like that.)))))
              I will not correct the black-eyed glasses. From the phone
          2. +4
            2 August 2014 00: 31
            Well, I can’t help but clarify - the Turks didn’t come to us - we came to the Turks ourselves - and very successfully - which certainly does not detract from the merits of a Russian soldier ...
            1. +1
              2 August 2014 21: 58
              alas, but the Turks came. Crimean war of 1854-1855. But again, where are those Turks?
          3. +1
            2 August 2014 11: 51
            I subscribe, I share ...
        2. +6
          1 August 2014 21: 15
          Plus with the greatest pleasure. I'm with you, too!
        3. +1
          1 August 2014 21: 25
          raccoon
          Fine! Bravo! Only a plus to you!
        4. -8
          1 August 2014 21: 29
          Quote: raccoon
          It was me 300 who lived under the Mongol-Tatars for years - but where are those Mongol-Tatars now?
          fool Mongols in Mongolia, Tatars in Tatarstan ..
          As for the article, the "Novorossians", likewise, are not eager to mobilize into the militia.
        5. +2
          1 August 2014 21: 29
          I subscribe for life and bequeath to children !!!
        6. +31
          1 August 2014 22: 12
          Quote: raccoon
          Do not get in my way - I build the world, I love the world, but I know how to fight better than anyone. Regards, Russian soldier

          good
          1. Sanmast
            +7
            1 August 2014 22: 28
            I support, completely and completely !!! If "forced" I will gnaw !!!
          2. Lexl
            +5
            2 August 2014 12: 10
            but it seems to me that it’s still WAR, for it’s just to kill - it’s the Nazis: unarmed, wounded, sleeping ... and the Russian Soldier still knows how to fight (or rather, he always learns this and learns more successfully than other nations)
          3. Bloody attendant
            +1
            4 August 2014 15: 20
            To be honest ... I don’t feel like ... killing. And it’s necessary, because for so many years we have been crushed by a dirty stinking dollar.
        7. +7
          1 August 2014 22: 49
          We’ll raise a toast for our brother,
          A simple Russian soldier!
          And remember the hateful army days,
          Fields, copses, trenches are dull.

          Keep your roads straight
          And bumps and pits do not meet you.
          Health, luck knows no failure
          And even let the enemy greet while standing.
        8. +1
          1 August 2014 23: 21
          BRAVO!!!!!!
        9. Russian soldier
          0
          3 August 2014 15: 41
          Thank you!soldier
      2. +1
        2 August 2014 11: 42
        I gladly put +!
        Honestly, I live a long time, but I did not hear this joke.
      3. +1
        3 August 2014 23: 54
        Quote: raccoon
        In the maternity hospital they mixed up the children of Russian, German and Ukrainian

        there is no difference in Russian or Ukrainian (everyone fought in the USSR ... and Ukrainians pulled all the straps equally)
        alteration of the joke and even in a humiliating form as if Ukraine did not represent the USSR then, but some kind of Poland ...
        it’s a shame that they also plus, as if really so bulo ..
    4. +18
      1 August 2014 20: 19
      Quote: zao74
      Even in these zombie heads it begins to reach what meat grinder they are sent to.

      I think not yet ... Mass graves are going on (without any identifications ..) Mothers require rotation .. not knowing that their sons have long been gone (recorded as deserters or missing persons ..) They collect the next money for bronics there .. ))) This money in armored cars and armored mercy go Lyashko and the like ..
      1. +3
        1 August 2014 21: 50
        Is there anyone from Ukraine? Are there soldiers without documents?

        It is just necessary for real mothers to send letters about really dead sons (to wives about husbands, daughters about fathers). And so that letters reach, send through the third address (in Zaporozhye through Chernihiv). Remember the experience of the Second World War, when the letters of German prisoners from near Stalingrad (in envelopes with the inscribed addresses, were scattered over Germany’s allied countries. Letters scattered over Germany itself were carefully collected and handed over to the police. So here, letters from Donbass can be intercepted and checked all mail-swing.
      2. +2
        3 August 2014 01: 09
        Speak right, Meehan. Kiev b ... di hid their offspring in Europe, and the foolish "tarasiks" - to the slaughter.
    5. +3
      1 August 2014 20: 21
      Maybe it's time for these zombie heads to go to Kiev ???
      1. avt
        +6
        1 August 2014 21: 22
        Quote: Monk
        Maybe it's time for these zombie heads to go to Kiev ???

        And who will lead ??? Do you think they will suddenly turn around? Nah, it's stupid like rams go to the slaughter. So it is more familiar and again the culprit of one's own death is -VVP, the main thing is not to think, but simply according to the behest of Kobzar - "Xoxol will remain a xoxol, although let him go to Europe, where he must act with his mind, he only strains his ass ..." Raguli for slaughter and go for the goat Porosenko. They will not go to Kiev. They have no Kovpak, neither Shchersa, nor Bozhenko. Not even Makhno! Only Kalomoisky, who no longer wants to pay them. ??
    6. +17
      1 August 2014 20: 25
      This tin .......
      1. +3
        1 August 2014 20: 32
        This is reality am am am
        1. +3
          1 August 2014 21: 23
          Guys, I reviewed these shots several times, by golly, it is better to die from a bullet (even mine) or a fragment, than that ...
          1. Rblipetsk
            0
            3 August 2014 22: 34
            Quote: sabakina
            , by golly, it is better to die from a bullet (even mine) or a fragment, than so ...

            you will not believe, it is better to live in peace ...
        2. +26
          1 August 2014 21: 56
          Quote: jaguar
          This is reality am am am

          Yes - the most undisguised reality. But, despite my inner rudeness, I do not want to put up with such a reality. Young men, not Germans, not Americans, are dead. And it was precisely the Americans who made them dead, and the Germans, waving to them, with the British.
          Agree that my children and the children of a charred dead person could become spouses more likely than with the offspring of any American or, God forbid, European man in the street.
          All this is sad. I don’t even want to swear. Mat is life, living human emotions. A dead mother with a dead child and these young dead guys ...
          Let those who did not strangle the sprouts of the Maydan growth die. And those who want to allow the current Ukraine to repeat in Russia. I find out who - I will find and ... negative
          1. +6
            1 August 2014 22: 07
            These are not young guys. This scum that came to kill and rob women and children. The "young guys" cannot fight against the militias and, as practice shows, they end up badly.
          2. +7
            1 August 2014 22: 58
            It is written about 1941 but the war will not become cleaner ... Let the one who unleashes the war die ...


            The war ... Such a terrible and dirty work.
            The overcoat is drowning in the mud, and the tunic is sweating.
            Night vigils, shelling, howling shells ...
            Only survive! .. And nothing is needed.

            And in the winter cold, and in the autumn thaw,
            You meet a piece of bread like a companion,
            That gave life a smile, or a look.
            Just to chew! And nothing is needed.

            Earth is like stone, but you need to dig trenches.
            It happens, and one, but it happens to be a platoon, in an osprey.
            And to collapse, disconnect here is a joy ..
            Close your eyes! And nothing is needed.

            You lie on guard, in a funnel crap shit.
            And nearby killed friends lie on the sidelines.
            Running under the bullets, what's the reward ...
            Only run away! And nothing is needed.

            There’s a splinter in your chest, and you’re in a trench.
            A grenade on his chest, a clump of earth under his neck.
            They will find you, your wife will be so glad!
            Ah, if you could! And nothing is needed.

            In a tent, on a tarpaulin, a splinter is taken out,
            And the pain, and the dirt, and everyone understands everything,
            That death stands and will be near for a long time ...
            Only survive! And nothing is needed.

            The whole chest is torn, then it is sewn up again.
            Saved from shock. Vodka ... here is the defense.
            In the carriage. A locomotive broken from a shell.
            Well, at least they brought it, and nothing is needed.

            Here the train is broken, and the dead are carried.
            And with them you are already being taken out.
            A sparrow tweeted, but for the soul of delight ...
            Bury as soon as possible. And nothing is needed.
          3. kay4yk
            +2
            2 August 2014 10: 38
            Yes, only young men - not Germans - are pleased to receive another 19 million for the war. And they are happy to master them.
            Just the Americans, my friend, are doing what they should do, which allows us to do the historical process and the course of history. But the traitors of Russian history, whoever they were, must answer and be punished. Only it does not have to be Ukrainians. Scum is enough in Russia
          4. British
            +1
            2 August 2014 11: 12
            You always have someone to blame The same British violet that happened in Dill the last 23 years. They have other foreign policy priorities. Nearby Russia, animal banderofascism grew, monuments of various scum from UNA-UNSO were erected everywhere. And the Russian leadership looked at all this through the fingers, including during the reign of Putin. Here you have the result
          5. +3
            2 August 2014 21: 37
            This is a war, otherwise there will never be a war. Either the fooled Ukrainians will kill the Russian militias or the Russian militias will kill the fooled ukrov, there is no third way. All the talk "oh, how sorry the young, etc. guys" are rotten whining. Tell about this to the relatives of civilians killed in Novorossiya. You can not even talk about the response. Look and educate your children as it should, so that they do not have this. There is a possibility - fight the fifth column. And you don't need to let go of your whining, the result will always be only negative.
            Best regards
      2. +7
        1 August 2014 20: 59
        Well, these freaks knew how it burned alive and what it was like for the inhabitants of Odessa when they were burned by their own dill. negative
        1. -2
          1 August 2014 21: 36
          Quote: Lelek
          Well, these freaks knew how it burned alive and what it was like for the inhabitants of Odessa when they were burned by their own dill. negative

          If these are the bodies of conscious, ideological followers of Bandera, then your words are gold. If it’s simple, it’s possible guys from under a stick were brought to the Ukrainian southeast - I hope that you, like me, will find the strength to remember them.
          1. +16
            1 August 2014 21: 56
            Quote: ksv1973
            Quote: Lelek
            Well, these freaks knew how it burned alive and what it was like for the inhabitants of Odessa when they were burned by their own dill. negative

            If these are the bodies of conscious, ideological followers of Bandera, then your words are gold. If it’s simple, it’s possible guys from under a stick were brought to the Ukrainian southeast - I hope that you, like me, will find the strength to remember them.

            My friend! This is war. I took up arms, so you go to kill, for an idea or out of stupidity, but to kill and kill not the soldiers who invaded your country (the protection of the Motherland is holy), but yours who do not want to be under the fascists. They are in Donbass no one called. Therefore, let the devils remember them in hell!
            1. 0
              1 August 2014 22: 21
              Quote: Predator
              Quote: ksv1973
              Quote: Lelek
              Well, these freaks knew how it burned alive and what it was like for the inhabitants of Odessa when they were burned by their own dill. negative

              If these are the bodies of conscious, ideological followers of Bandera, then your words are gold. If it’s simple, it’s possible guys from under a stick were brought to the Ukrainian southeast - I hope that you, like me, will find the strength to remember them.

              My friend! This is war. I took up arms, so you go to kill, for an idea or out of stupidity, but to kill and kill not the soldiers who invaded your country (the protection of the Motherland is holy), but yours who do not want to be under the fascists. They are in Donbass no one called. Therefore, let the devils remember them in hell!

              Brother, think for yourself - after all, there could be simple untrained boys who at school went through history on the basis of the new Bandera textbooks coming out. Yes, they are enemies. But are they really that much enemy. Killing a kid from the Hitler Youth was not considered a special valor. Do not judge the dead as aggressively as you. We are not judges.
              1. +1
                1 August 2014 22: 32
                Quote: ksv1973
                Brother, think for yourself - after all, there could be simple untrained boys who at school went through history on the basis of the new Bandera textbooks coming out. Yes, they are enemies. But are they really that much enemy. Killing a kid from the Hitler Youth was not considered a special valor. Do not judge the dead as aggressively as you. We are not judges.

                I rate your comment as very thoughtful and informed. I generally noticed a tendency on the forum as some visitors forgot about such things as rules of war ,rules of treatment of prisoners of war.There are generally accepted conventions. And lastly, in the heat of intoxication and excitement, some people use in their comments the words forbidden and written in the rules of the forum VO. hi ,thank you for attention
                1. +7
                  1 August 2014 23: 04
                  Quote: Apollon
                  rules of war

                  and the National Guard respects these rules ????
                  1. +6
                    2 August 2014 03: 16
                    Of course no! but it is not worth becoming like these cattle!
                  2. +1
                    2 August 2014 11: 50
                    Today there was information that an exchange of prisoners and the dead took place.
                    The militia found that some of the killed militias were alive before falling into the hands of punishers. Traces of ropes on arms and legs, bodies are cut with knives.
                    How does this relate?
                  3. -5
                    2 August 2014 14: 05
                    And you e..et? Be taller! You are a Russian person, not ...
                2. +3
                  2 August 2014 21: 51
                  About the rules of war, etc. This, of course, is all good, but in war, a good enemy is a dead enemy. Everything else is talk, without reason. The answer to the enemy in the war should be adequate.

                  A warrior does not like to kill, he just does it well. He is good at how many enemies he killed. The army, in the same way, is valued only for winning, i.e. destroy the enemy. This is the only criterion.

                  And if you act according to the conventions, then there will be no end and edge war. And why not fight, they won’t kill, they’ll take them prisoner, they will feed, they will treat, etc. Only conventions are always violated, and there is nothing to be done about it.

                  I do not agree with you. Yours faithfully
              2. +6
                1 August 2014 22: 39
                Quote: ksv1973
                Brother, think for yourself - after all, there could be simple untrained boys who at school went through history on the basis of the new Bandera textbooks coming out. Yes, they are enemies. But are they really that much enemy. Killing a kid from the Hitler Youth was not considered a special valor. Do not judge the dead as aggressively as you. We are not judges.


                And there, apparently, there were those same reservists with a salary of 2500 hryvnia. After all, they "deliberately and forcibly" went to war, and the war met them with death. What is happening here and now is scary ...
              3. +14
                1 August 2014 22: 50
                I feel sorry for any person. And looking at pieces of human meat on the pavement is not a pleasant occupation. Unfortunately in a war, you won’t kill him, then he will kill you, but you must survive in order to win, otherwise your loved ones will be killed. This law of war has not been canceled.
              4. +8
                2 August 2014 10: 13
                Quote: ksv1973
                Quote: Predator
                Quote: ksv1973
                Quote: Lelek
                Well, these freaks knew how it burned alive and what it was like for the inhabitants of Odessa when they were burned by their own dill. negative

                If these are the bodies of conscious, ideological followers of Bandera, then your words are gold. If it’s simple, it’s possible guys from under a stick were brought to the Ukrainian southeast - I hope that you, like me, will find the strength to remember them.

                My friend! This is war. I took up arms, so you go to kill, for an idea or out of stupidity, but to kill and kill not the soldiers who invaded your country (the protection of the Motherland is holy), but yours who do not want to be under the fascists. They are in Donbass no one called. Therefore, let the devils remember them in hell!

                Brother, think for yourself - after all, there could be simple untrained boys who at school went through history on the basis of the new Bandera textbooks coming out. Yes, they are enemies. But are they really that much enemy. Killing a kid from the Hitler Youth was not considered a special valor. Do not judge the dead as aggressively as you. We are not judges.

                And in your opinion, if this young fascist, with a faustpatron, slams our grandfather into a tank and burns the whole crew, is he right ?! If his fathers and brothers came to us to kill him, to burn, to rape, they have done so many troubles that now it goes around, and we them they defeated and came to finish off this scum in Germany, so that he would be stroked on the head if he was armed?! And he would use it against our soldiers? who destroys his people by force of arms. You came to kill (trained or not, does not play a role), and got your own, that’s the way.
              5. +2
                2 August 2014 16: 09
                do you think the militia should have waited until the trained boys shot at their heads?
              6. 0
                2 August 2014 18: 28
                if the kid you mentioned has a weapon in his hands and he shoots you, it’s the enemy and it doesn’t matter how old he is. It’s not valor — to kill this kid, it’s a necessity ... the basic law of war — either you or you ....
              7. +1
                2 August 2014 22: 05
                that is, in your opinion it turns out that you need to ask who he is? Well, there is not trained, trained, etc. So, if he picked up the machine, then he decided everything for himself, and do not say that the brain was washed. You still say = children =
              8. -1
                4 August 2014 00: 15
                Quote: ksv1973
                Brother, think for yourself - after all, there could be simple untrained boys who at school went through history on the basis of the new Bandera textbooks coming out. Yes, they are enemies. But are they really that much enemy. Killing a kid from the Hitler Youth was not considered a special valor. Do not judge the dead as aggressively as you. We are not judges.

                yes maybe .. and it’s unlikely that it was from such a textbook (we don’t have Bandera textbooks cleaned after Yushch)
                most likely the same Ukrainians as those who killed them ... politics and politicians forced them to shoot at each other.
                Here I look at the corpses with horror and I have 2 feelings in me (given that I am Ukrainian)
                1 is horror. The horror is that Ukrainians are brutally murdered by Ukrainians. And there are already many such cases. And a lot of civilians.
                2-more cynical feeling in the war. I begin to understand the meaning of spreading everything with artillery and Tornadoes. Declare evacuation and smash everything to hell.
                These are the feelings. In general, when I voted for Tigibko, I thought that the majority for the peaceful autonomy of Donbass and no one needed war. I was sure that wide autonomy and the Russian language would suit everyone.
                The people voted as the telly said ... no one needed the world ....
                But wait a second cynical feeling, even the most terrible to perceive. And after all, war ... and the end is not visible to the edge. And politicians do not want and will not decide. the people themselves will not decide so and will kill themselves (moreover, opponents of the Maidan are dying just more ... the maydans went to work in the EU)
                here the tasks are being solved more than the EU + memory - the Russian speakers are dying ... basically
                If it was a brilliant plan of the Russian Federation for the collapse of Ukraine, then it does not work. More precisely, the country will be, this is what sponsors need. But there will be no peace or peace. Such shots cause only revenge! Revenge of one to another! And when everyone begins to take revenge on others, the whole country will turn into Barthelomeev’s night ...
                1. 0
                  4 August 2014 00: 40
                  Russia is guilty of only one thing, that for 23 years it did not pay attention to the education of an entire generation of people who hate Russians, including in themselves.
                  We do not need the collapse of a neighboring, once fraternal country.
          2. zol1
            +9
            2 August 2014 11: 16
            ... If it’s simple, maybe guys from under the stick drove the guys to the Ukrainian southeast - I hope that you, like me, will find the strength to remember them.


            They came to kill without understanding, voluntarily or not freely, what difference does it make! They are tied with blood and are drunk from it, and the law of war says - either you or they! The third is a white flag, but they did not use it, so they freely came to kill and got it in full!
          3. Lexl
            +3
            2 August 2014 12: 25
            I don’t understand what minusanuli, but I agree with you. I believe that not everything is there of your own free will and will. Purely human, their pity. And according to the Orthodox faith, you need to show mercy to the fallen, who will answer TAM for everything that he has done here (and even if they are the last scum, do not go down the level of scum). Suvorov Alexander Vasilievich bequeathed to the Russian soldier to beat the enemy while in his hands a weapon - the dead are no longer enemies.
            1. +1
              3 August 2014 01: 35
              Alexey, go to Kiev, go to Khreshchatyk and do not say loudly that you are Russian from Russia. What is left of you will be sent to your relatives in a box from under the monpasier. In the best case, you will return disabled. And the dead who are "no longer enemies" are indifferent to me (although I do not intend to dance on their corpses). hi
          4. +5
            2 August 2014 16: 05
            a soldier of an enemy army - by definition, cannot be ideological, not ideological or driven from under a stick - he is an enemy with weapons
          5. +1
            3 August 2014 01: 22
            Somehow, not a single sad face was visible at the Natsiks driving around on their armored vehicles, but they laughed and showed "V". So why should I sing halelujah to them? A good enemy is a dead enemy (this is the law of war, which was not unleashed by New Russia). But I will remember the dead residents of Novorossiya and the militia right now.
            1. +3
              3 August 2014 01: 38
              Quote: Lelek
              But the dead inhabitants of New Russia and the militias will be remembered right now ....

              This multi-colored, brilliant "lightness" is not appropriate at the commemoration of the dead residents of Novorossiya and the militias.
              Please be more serious in appropriate circumstances.
              1. +1
                3 August 2014 21: 32
                And this is like a salute over the graves of the fallen. soldier
      3. SSR
        +1
        1 August 2014 23: 35
        James Cameron is not in vain one of the Greatest Directors and so on.
        "It's sad, they shouldn't have died. It's your fault!" All the commentators who say it are anrial red allergic and the hard truth ....... I want to say one thing - that the real truth is that Brother went to Brother. This Grief and Grief feeds on cunning comments and emotions, figuratively speaking, but in practice it is "support of the population."
    7. +1
      1 August 2014 20: 28
      Everyone wants to live.
    8. +6
      1 August 2014 20: 43
      Quote: zao74
      Even in these zombie heads it begins to reach what meat grinder they are sent to.

      Interestingly, all those who voted for Potroshenko went and enlisted in the army, or how .......
    9. Fuse
      +11
      1 August 2014 20: 46
      Recruits are such recruits:
      1. +11
        1 August 2014 22: 19
        Quote: Fuse
        Recruits are such recruits:

        But in general, the summons of dill pushes the remnants of the brain into place. Something like that... laughing
    10. +4
      1 August 2014 21: 19
      What is this something in the sky of Donbas?
      1. +3
        1 August 2014 22: 30
        Quote: abc_02
        What is this something in the sky of Donbas?

        Well dill ...
        Tu-143 "Flight" - the Soviet reconnaissance unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV). In the 1970 – 1980's, 950 units were produced. The upgraded vehicle with new reconnaissance equipment was called the Tu-243.

        The drone is designed to conduct tactical reconnaissance in the frontline by photographing and television reconnaissance of area targets and individual routes, as well as monitoring the radiation situation along the flight route. Included in the complex BP-3

      2. leglun
        +2
        2 August 2014 07: 37
        It seems that he himself fell. If he was fucked from MANPADS, he would have left no horns and legs
    11. +16
      1 August 2014 21: 26
      Yes, little comes to them. Look at the outraged Ukrainian women. They are not against the war, they are rebelling for their choloviks. And from the neighboring village, so let them go "Edinu Krainu" from the separatists to seize.
    12. +11
      1 August 2014 21: 36
      Even as it began to reach, especially in the region of the frightened Bandera in Lviv, they themselves write:
      A journalist from Lviv Ostap Drozdov launched a large-scale civil campaign against mobilization. Drozdov called on the citizens of Ukraine to unite in order to boycott the citizens' appeal for war.

      Lviv journalist laid the foundation for a new civil movement against mobilization. On social networks, Drozdov created communities with high-profile names “Mobilization is a form of genocide.”

      “This is the war of Valtsman - Shalomov, which consist of one Masonic lodge. It was decided to clean the territory from the Slavs. Leave in Ukraine 8 million people in Russia -15 million. Therefore, they mobilize 14-year-old children and elderly 65-year-old men, take even non-draft, but reproductive men (to stop the reproduction of the gene pool). Mobilization is a form of genocide! ”, Writes Ostap Drozdov on social networks.
      http://nahnews.com.ua/ostap-drozdov-mobilizaciya-na-ukraine-eto-genocid/
    13. Cadet787
      +6
      1 August 2014 21: 45
      Ukrainian soldiers, the Kiev government exploits your patriotic feelings, calls on you to fight for Ukraine, but in fact you are fighting to preserve their vile skins, they have shed so much blood, they will have to answer before the court of history and the people, they are afraid of this animal fear. weapons against the fascist junta, only you can stop fratricide, go to the side of the militia. OUR BUSINESS THE RIGHT VICTORY WILL BE BACK FOR US!
    14. +6
      1 August 2014 22: 49
      Hmm ... Only thanks to the success of the militia, the Svidomo begin to evaluate something ... !!! It is necessary that they would fully understand: Don’t go to the South-East there is BANDEROVA DEATH !!!
    15. +2
      1 August 2014 23: 00
      lysychansk
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTyxIoCKtrw
    16. SSR
      +4
      1 August 2014 23: 19
      Quote: zao74
      Even in these zombie heads it begins to reach what meat grinder they are sent to.

      Is not a fact. It could be like that. - and for what? Like - you fight and my son will stay at home. Well, other interpretations, adjusted for the fact that the warriors soon complained not that they were killing their own, but that their supply was not entirely comme il faut. And comrades rightly say - where is awareness and repentance?
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    18. +1
      2 August 2014 14: 28
      So these zombie do not want to fight and die. But they do not mind that Donetsk and Lugansk died out, that someone else killed the militias and civilians of Novorossiya. They, ukropatriots, remained ghouls and cannibals. They still jump "to themselves" - mentally. And they flee to Russia from the draft, with children of draft age. This ukroarya gene pool is used to and knows how to survive and adapt, stand still in ambush.
      1. 0
        4 August 2014 00: 01
        Quote: kyznets
        . They, ukropatrioty, remained ghouls and cannibals

        easier with such definitions. Patriots to patriots are different. What’s shown on TV is one thing. The fact that in reality is completely different. The truth is that patriots do not scream in the streets and on the Maidan .. they are not visible on TV. And they die as inaudibly and imperceptibly ...
        People dying for the Constitution (the same ter integrity or country), by definition, cannot be patriots. No matter what they are inside ..
        You go fight yourself .. it's easy to divide into "upy.rey" and our heroes - forgetting that the war is civil and Ukrainians are killing Ukrainians on the front line ... And you are still looking for heroes? And share?
        I was not a supporter of the Maidan, and I knew that all this would end. But in a civil war there are no heroes, there are no winners ... there are only victims of the people and the country ...
        however, it’s convenient for you to talk on TV about another country .. calling them cannibals and bad ones ...
    19. 0
      2 August 2014 18: 23
      For the dull: What is ATO? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfXJQBd8Ri8
  2. +60
    1 August 2014 20: 10
    and they have not the army, but the punishers !! would not be dishonored even with mobilization against their own people !!
  3. +3
    1 August 2014 20: 11
    From how bad it is to the commissioner, already have to load the prosecutor's office. Work for law enforcement officers, not only detachments, but now catching dodgers
  4. kelevra
    +6
    1 August 2014 20: 13
    As usual, they underestimate the scale of their problems! A lying power, such a power will not be able to hold on for a long time! Dill is not completed yet!
  5. +8
    1 August 2014 20: 14
    Jawav. Third Reich. Spring of 1945.
    1. +1
      1 August 2014 21: 24
      we are waiting for the Maidan Yurgent and the Fuhrer Parasenko fluttering the boy by the cheek in front of the bunker
    2. +4
      1 August 2014 22: 04
      Quite the opposite, then everything came under the call, from the Volksturm to the Hitler Youth. Even Goebbels eldest son fought. So the Reich and the Ruin are two big differences
  6. +7
    1 August 2014 20: 15
    Participation in hostilities is not to ride on the Maidan.
  7. +18
    1 August 2014 20: 15
    01.08.2014. Report from Shakhtersk from Borisych

    "We just arrived from a cleanup of the private sector in the Eastern city of Shakhtersk. There were Ukrainians, paratroopers who left ... brought a lot of trophies. The Ukrainian column left the East yesterday, they cleared the territory just today. I think most of them were stolen by the locals. pulled out other units, but the trump cards got it. Binoculars, Ukrainian rations, cartridges, charges for grenade launchers and little things. Our marauders were lucky. Yesterday's 200s were pulled out by another unit ... so the guys are resting. But I think they have everything is ahead.
    In the private sector Vostochny there are burnt-out Kamaz, BMD and Nona. A "fly" hangs on the wires, apparently thrown back during the explosion. No bodies or wounded were found. Neither civilians nor Ukrainian soldiers. army. Apparently, they either took them away or buried them somewhere.
    Just near us, Nona began to shoot at the ukras behind Shakhtar ... the car beeps under the house ... loudly ... it scared everyone.
    In private homes there are traces of blood everywhere. Rather, often, it’s just covered in blood. Ukrainians settled in private homes, and locals were sent to basements.
    I think that if Ukrainians do not appear in Shakhtersk in the near future, Trump’s unit will be thrown further. Personally, I myself heard people leaving Vostochny asking to pick up pigs. Stab. Take the meat. 11 pieces No one muzzleed them.
    Camal's theory has not been confirmed. In Vostochny in Shakhtersk, Kamaz was not fuels and lubricants, but simply the cargo burned down.
    As for the column of tanks, which was moving to Shakhtersk. They did not reach because the artillery of the militia was well received. They dug in.
    Now outside the windows, 120 millimeter paper is loudly buzzing, somewhere in the station area ... and Lelik just fried potatoes with bacon and cuts bread ... Zelenka and the village under the 16-storey building "Pavlova" are finally cleaned up today ... personally, took a number of photos.
    Personally, I can add that 25 airmobiles left like real paratroopers ... lost a bunch of ammunition and something else. No matter what they say, the valiant Ukrainian landing party eats pretty well, not like the militia ... in the evening we will try the praised foreign rations.
    Wow, how close it was ... Lelik says it is our Nona who gives the gas. An artillery duel is going on around. "
    1. PiP
      +1
      1 August 2014 21: 30
      Quote: Russ69
      the car beeps under the house ... loudly ... scared everyone.

      Yes, a paradox however. The signaling of the car is perceived as something alien, and "Nona" "booms" is already normal and natural. It's a pity...
    2. +6
      2 August 2014 03: 20
      The Minister of Defense of the Donetsk People’s Republic Igor Strelkova reported on the atrocities of the Ukrainian paratroopers in relation to the captured militias. Recently, the Ukrainian military cannot boast of successes in battles, suffer heavy losses and vent their anger on prisoners.
      “We have a tragedy. Today we exchanged two of our prisoners for two "paratroopers".
      "Airmobiles" went to their own feet. Ours were thrown out like bags: all bones were broken, all the insides were broken, the probability that they would survive was almost zero ...
      Critters! What creatures! After all, this is not the "National Guard", this is the "Dnepropetrovsk landing". We will consider. He ordered not to capture a single officer of the 25. NEVER".

      These are real airborne airborne troopers !!!
      1. +1
        3 August 2014 01: 59
        And what could be expected from the Bandera scum that Yaroshi, Bilye, Tyagniboki and Lyashki trained for 23 years for one function - to kill. The prisoners of the "National Guards" after interrogations - to the wall, they can no longer be corrected. Once released, they will again go to kill and maim, and not only the military, but also civilians.
  8. +38
    1 August 2014 20: 16
    Judging by the rare contacts with former friends in Ukraine, their logic is very peculiar. We won’t join the army, because they could kill us. But the separatists (I translate from idiotic jargon - militias, in our opinion) must be destroyed. Probably, Russia should help in this too ?! Jackals, cowards and freeloaders, there are no other words for them, great Ukrainians ...
  9. +2
    1 August 2014 20: 16
    So in the army the ability to ride is of little use. Much more relevant is the ability to crawl.
  10. +3
    1 August 2014 20: 17
    ... reluctance to appear in military enlistment offices in Ukraine exists ...
    - Who is hunting in a meat grinder? and the people of Little Russia just want to be left alone
    1. +4
      1 August 2014 20: 28
      Quote: klavyr
      and the people of Little Russia just want to be left alone


      Yeah. And someone would do everything for them. They themselves will only have dumplings, and those that themselves climbed into their mouths.
    2. 0
      2 August 2014 09: 28
      Quote: klavyr
      and the people of Little Russia just want to be left alone

      On the Maidan, it must be understood, not the people of Little Russia raged?
      1. 0
        4 August 2014 00: 19
        Quote: Anper
        On the Maidan, it must be understood, not the people of Little Russia raged?

        Why didn’t you look at Maidan at all? And who basically came to KIEV and raged?
        Not well, if Crimeans or Odessa residents arrived = -then yes ...
        But there the memory is mostly ...
        The other side of the Dnieper worked and was unhappy with the Maidan.
        And indeed the people of Ukraine are tired for a long time ... but now they no longer impoverish it, they simply destroy it ...
        1. 0
          4 August 2014 00: 29
          So some on the "Other bank of the Dnieper" continue, or have continued to work until recently. And this despite the fact that he is "simply destroyed".
  11. +12
    1 August 2014 20: 17
    Kidon
    Chetto they have there the Minister of Energy with a surname (Sold lol ), commissar Kidon belay , the prime minister, so generally shame feel , but not a surname ... Paradox ... what
    1. +8
      1 August 2014 20: 32
      Quote: retired
      speaking last name (Sold), commissar Kidon

      Lyashko’s name is also not without intent wassat
    2. +6
      1 August 2014 21: 14
      By the way, the surname was sold almost on the truth: 92 year OISB park Barnaul division a plate on a technology banner black letters on a yellow background hang over a zachuhanny ZIL - the batteries are removed
      water drained
      driver sold
      turned out to be a driver by the name of sold thoroughbred moldova- Wrote ALREADY IN MARCH
    3. qaddafi
      +4
      1 August 2014 23: 51
      "As you name the yacht, so it will float."
    4. +1
      2 August 2014 12: 21
      Quote: retired
      and not a surname ... Paradox ...

      And still the deputy Popadyuk (getting), the former Foreign Ministry Deshitsa (cheap) ...
      By the way, these are NOT UKRAINIAN SURNAMES! GALICIAN!
  12. pryanik
    +4
    1 August 2014 20: 19
    Well, for what they fought for it and ran into their favorite dad, Porosenko, and sends him paternally to the slaughterhouse and they don’t want something, but why did they ride wassat
  13. 0
    1 August 2014 20: 19
    If all deviators are caught, then what will the Polokrains feed? They even have an army starving.
  14. +13
    1 August 2014 20: 24
    Hovaye lads, well, this junta's bathhouse! In principle, it did not take long and it reached your heads - six months and three thousand "two hundredths". You run away from these Yatsenyuks to hell until they put you under Donetsk bullets. The question is not even in your conscience (you do not have it, instead of it Russophobia), the question is to your primordial cunning, do you need it? For someone else's shale gas and a silly Benya? Here you are already gathered to ruin without Putin. Those who do not understand will surely be killed, many even before winter.
    Hello to the military commissar of Kiev, go mobilize Klitschko, he is an athlete, suitable for combat training.
    1. +3
      1 August 2014 21: 19
      You can have two Klitschko at once, both athletes, and the mayor (peer, sir, hara) of Kiev has intercessors *.
      Intercessor - Deputy (mov)
  15. +4
    1 August 2014 20: 25
    the problem of evasion of mobilization and unwillingness to appear in the military enlistment offices in Ukraine exists.

    okay?
  16. +6
    1 August 2014 20: 25
    Quote: Stock Officer
    Judging by the rare contacts with former friends in Ukraine, their logic is very peculiar. We won’t join the army, because they could kill us. But the separatists (I translate from idiotic jargon - militias, in our opinion) must be destroyed. Probably, Russia should help in this too ?! Jackals, cowards and freeloaders, there are no other words for them, great Ukrainians ...


    How do you want? Probably noticed the constant appeals of the EU and the US to Russia with the demand "to end the conflict in Ukraine." In principle, sanctions are imposed on us for failure to do this.
    1. +3
      1 August 2014 21: 05
      Lavrov made an unofficial proposal to introduce, under the UN mandate, Russian peacekeepers. Tomorrow the war would end. bully
  17. +4
    1 August 2014 20: 28
    ,,, in particular, 60,82% of readers (5826 people) said that the summons from the military registration and enlistment office as part of the third stage of partial mobilization did not come to them, as well as their relatives. 29,27% (2804 people) admitted that the agenda has arrived, but they will ignore her.

    And only 9,91% (949 people) of readers said that they had received a summons and would go to the draft board.

    poll Correspondent.net
    http://korrespondent.net/ukraine/3400503-tret-chytatelei-korrespondentnet-poluch

    yly-povestku-v-voenkomat-opros

    ,,, most likely 60,82% belong to the second category too laughing
  18. +8
    1 August 2014 20: 31
    Why are you surprised? The symbol of Ukraine at all times is not lard and vodka, as we used to think, but the credo "my house is on the edge."
  19. +6
    1 August 2014 20: 32
    Dialing problems! ????? So you don’t summons and lard again on the Maidan, collect them and then declare as before, "Hto ne skache that m ... rock, and now hto ne ide in a meat grinder that m..skal!" Maybe the last ones are brainless and will bite !!
  20. Realist
    +3
    1 August 2014 20: 45
    Meanwhile, those who were released by the militia are being tried in Kiev courts.
    Potential drowned, I think, 10 times they will think whether to return home, where they first forcibly drove to a fratricidal war, and then the survivors, they are also judged!
    1. +4
      1 August 2014 21: 08
      So let them hide somewhere in the Carpathians, but we need them like a rabbit radar.
    2. ADK57
      +3
      1 August 2014 23: 57
      They drove not to a fratricidal war, but to a war with separatists, quilted jackets, yam ...
      And for reliability, barrage units also provided. You step badly - a bullet in the back (for courage). It is no secret that a third of the losses are the work of the National Guard Guard detachments and the right sector.
      Between the National Guard and the troops that began to think, real battles take place, because nobody wants to die for PARASHENKO.
  21. +5
    1 August 2014 20: 45
    Kiev immediately let it carry out another mobilization-one shaitan will run away. You can fight in the crowd against one or on the Maidan against the unwanted authorities. But there are no fools. One life and let others fight, the same pravoseki-and we ? Only Kiev doesn’t give a damn about desire-maidanili-now go ahead-prove loyalty to the Reich, or rather to the authorities. Soon they will start rowing regardless of age and gender, three steps in a straight line went-go-go-with a pan you go-all the more go-with your weapon. next to schools there will be buses, studying is a harmful business, to the army and fools are needed, they won’t think too much
  22. +3
    1 August 2014 20: 47
    I want to clarify that Russia has never been the first to attack !!! She attacked once - it was either with the Finns, or with Sweden, and there we lost !!! Yes, this is a story, it’s hard to talk about it!
    Then a mistake was made !!!
    Russia learned this lesson, and for future centuries it only defended itself !!!
    Now Russia is not going anywhere, it is not occupying anyone, it is defending itself !!!
    Russia is a peaceful power, not a country, and especially not a regional one !!! This is power !!!
    1. +2
      1 August 2014 20: 53
      kostya-petrov SU  Today, 20: 47


      ,,, belay this is an emotional expression of a person’s state of mind good

      ,,, I directly represent you in a leather jacket and with a Mauser ,,, feel
    2. +9
      1 August 2014 21: 00
      The USSR attacked Finland, but did not lose, the main task of seizing the territory was achieved (the fact that with difficulty is a completely different matter).
      1. +7
        1 August 2014 21: 52
        Quote: TiGRoO
        The USSR attacked Finland, but did not lose, the main task of seizing the territory was achieved (the fact that with difficulty is a completely different matter).

        Main task: The creation of the Karelian-Finnish SSR was never achieved! And if you mean territories, then it’s like: the mouse gave birth to an elephant! For reference: I live in Karelia in places of fights I often visit and you can still find the remains of both our and Finns! It’s just practically impossible to separate them now!
        1. +3
          1 August 2014 23: 17
          Always the winter campaign 39-40gg was estimated unequivocally! Honestly, I expected more cons. In our country, people are judged not for events, but for emotions after events! And power is in truth!
        2. +5
          1 August 2014 23: 26
          Quote: non-primary
          Main task: The creation of the Karelian-Finnish SSR was never achieved!

          Doesn't really fit in with reality!
          The Karelian-Finnish Soviet Socialist Republic (- a union republic within the USSR from March 31, 1940 to July 16, 1956, when the Karelian-Finnish SSR was returned to the status of an autonomous republic as part of the RSFSR and again transformed into the Karelian ASSR.

          It was after the winter war that the Karelo-Finnish Soviet Socialist Republic was formed - a union republic within the USSR.
    3. +3
      1 August 2014 21: 07
      And Russia attacked earlier and more than once, more often won.
      And the USSR still declared war on Japan in 1945. and defeated her.
      1. +2
        1 August 2014 22: 18
        And that (Japanese) got involved in the war because they promised the mattresses. As soon as the peace treaty was denounced, Japan proposed such conditions (if only the USSR did not fight) that it would not be a sin to agree. But only, an old song, an allied duty, etc. And the Saxons would agree and we would also be considered fools.
    4. +19
      1 August 2014 21: 12
      Quote: kostya-petrov
      it was either with the Finns, or with Sweden

      THIS IS EDUCATION NOW !!!!!
      1. +7
        1 August 2014 21: 31
        What can I say, if instead of the Soviet exams we have some kind of IGE ...
      2. -4
        1 August 2014 21: 41
        you will forgive, but on the go, on emotions, will you be able to recall in detail every battle, its genesis and also the outcome ???
        If so, then I personally shake your hand !!!!
        Moreover, since the time of King Peas !!! I wrote this post without peeping, sincerely !!!
        1. Lexl
          +2
          2 August 2014 12: 44
          only this war was not with the king of peas ... and not at all with the king. stop If you are an emotional person, and you do not check the facts, you will have to shake your hand often!
          no offense, because the Internet is ...
    5. 0
      1 August 2014 21: 12
      http://federacia.ru/encyclopaedia/war/
      Here is a link about the famous wars of our country.
    6. +9
      1 August 2014 21: 16
      COSTIC need to learn history and not pass
      1. +4
        1 August 2014 21: 33
        Here, specially by reference, I went, read, and found:
        The Great Patriotic War (1941-1945 gg.) - defensive nature
        Russian-Byzantine wars (IX. XI centuries) - attack.
        The Russian-Pecheneg war (X. XI centuries.) - Defensive nature.
        The Russo-Polovtsian wars (XI. XIII centuries) are defensive in nature.
        The invasions of Genghis Khan and Batu (1223, 1237-1241 gg.) - Defensive nature.
        Russian-German-Swedish wars (XIII century.) - Defensive.
        Russian-Horde wars (XIII. XV centuries.) - Defensive nature.
        Russian-Lithuanian wars (XIV. XVI centuries) - attack.
        Russian-Crimean wars (XVI century.) - Defensive nature.
        Kazan and Astrakhan campaigns (XVI century) are defensive in nature.
        And so on on the list! To write a lot.
    7. +4
      1 August 2014 23: 22
      Quote: kostya-petrov
      I want to clarify that Russia has never been the first to attack !!! She attacked once - it was either with the Finns, or with Sweden, and there we lost !!! Yes, this is a story, it’s hard to talk about it!

      In the winter war we won! With big losses, but won. And they achieved their goals: the border was moved away from Leningrad by more than 100 kilometers.
    8. +1
      2 August 2014 16: 29
      if we consider the expansion of its territory as a defeat, then lost
  23. +9
    1 August 2014 20: 54
    that's what surprised me. on the censor, a fighter on a fighter, almost tomorrow they will go to Crimea to conquer. do not they receive the summons?
    1. +6
      1 August 2014 21: 33
      How would you correctly formulate and answer ... They think that the war is somewhere out there and it will not affect them ...
      Something like that...
    2. +2
      1 August 2014 21: 40
      Maybe the sofas of these fighters are outside Ukraine?
    3. +4
      1 August 2014 21: 55
      Quote: andrei332809
      that's what surprised me. on the censor, a fighter on a fighter, almost tomorrow they will go to Crimea to conquer. do not they receive the summons?


      Do not be surprised, Censor is a psychiatric hospital.
      1. +3
        2 August 2014 00: 07
        Dym71, in a hospital people are cured of an illness, well, or at least they try to cure, and censor.net spreads the infection. This is a source of infection and must be destroyed. hi
    4. +6
      1 August 2014 21: 59
      andrei332809
      that's what surprised me. on the censor, a fighter on a fighter, almost tomorrow they will go to Crimea to conquer. do not they receive the summons?

      So these fighters, for sure, are the adult children of Poroshenko, Turchinov, Avakov, Akhmetov, Kolomoisky and parliamentary deputies from radical parties. To create an impression, mass numbers are registered under different logins. They need to somehow contribute to this war.
      And the stunning news:
      The eldest son of the Minister of Defense of Ukraine Valery Geletey, Alexander, was drafted into the army. This was announced by the head of the department on Facebook.
      “Today the son received a summons to the army. He is not in Kiev, but he puts off all matters and immediately goes to the collection point, ”RBC quotes the message.
      Earlier, the only son of the speaker of the Verkhovna Rada Alexander Turchinov, Kirill Turchinov, received the summons.

      Surely they will be on duty at the entrance to the meeting room of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine.
      1. +1
        1 August 2014 23: 56
        Or some clerk at the headquarters in Raisins. It seems like in the database zone, but still in the rear
    5. +3
      1 August 2014 22: 20
      I repeat. Ukrainian couch troops are the bravest in the world.
    6. +1
      1 August 2014 23: 55
      They probably write from a Spanish orange plantation or a shabbat near Moscow because the morale is so high :) or those who have already brought it to the military commissar (creaks!)
  24. Everest2014
    +2
    1 August 2014 20: 54
    Quote: kostya-petrov
    She attacked once - it was either with the Finns, or with Sweden, and there we lost !!!

    The Soviet-Finnish War, there KV-2 was having fun, clashes with the Finns showed low efficiency of mosquitoes against machine guns. In general, the victory was for the USSR, but it was somehow ambiguous.
    1. -4
      1 August 2014 21: 12
      Russia, was severely punished, and by its own mistakes !!!
      Let's be honest, the line we took with difficulty.
      1. +7
        1 August 2014 21: 36
        That’s not clear where, remember, WE PUSHED OUR BORDERS AHEAD !!! angry
        Learn better materiel!
        1. +2
          1 August 2014 21: 52
          And after that they also forced us to fight with the Nazis, because
      2. +3
        1 August 2014 22: 04
        Quote: kostya-petrov
        Let's be honest, the line that we took with difficulty

        But they took it. And if it were not for the British, they could well have occupied the whole of Finland, although such a task did not stand.
      3. +2
        1 August 2014 22: 57
        Quote: kostya-petrov
        Russia, was severely punished, and by its own mistakes !!!

        If only that! 1939, a liberation campaign in Western Ukraine. It still comes around.
    2. +4
      1 August 2014 22: 03
      Quote: everest2014

      Soviet-Finnish war, there KV-2 had fun

      KV-2 was created following the results of this war. It was created to deal with heavily fortified defense lines (bunkers, etc.) for which they put a 152-mm howitzer into it. It turned out a monster when he saw the Germans for a long time did not understand how this is even possible. It is clear that at the beginning of the war, not a single German tank had any chance against the KV-2, although I repeat it was not intended for tank combat.
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  26. Makosha
    +7
    1 August 2014 20: 57
    The problem is that many people shy away (from service), do not want to go. By any means and methods they try not to get a summons, they try to leave the territories of their place of residence ”

    Sent anyway. In the Kharkiv region they still collect. And send.
    Strelkov said: "Either in the ATO or in the militia. You won't be able to sit out." And he knows what he says - both a historian and a military man. History always repeats itself, according to the same scenario as wars.
    In general, it is not a pity for these "innocent" ones. According to recent photographs, many of them already have awards.
    Shakhtyorsk 31.07.14/XNUMX/XNUMX. Captured ATOshnik.
  27. +7
    1 August 2014 21: 01
    According to the agency, during the mobilization, "a lot of cases of evading military servicemen who did not want to be on the agenda" were transferred to the prosecutor's office.

    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/619/gqqe776.jpg
  28. +2
    1 August 2014 21: 01
    It's just that they take too much in the military registration and enlistment offices, not everyone has that kind of money to pay off. So people are running, some to Belarus, some to the forest, and some will not return from Russia. Make the "tax" smaller, and there will be more people "who have come to the military registration and enlistment office". Market law! And yet, since "Ukraine-tse Europe", it must be like in Europe: Only those who want to go to the army go to the army! True, without serving in the army, you will not be able to get a job in the police, and not only in the police, but those who have served are entitled to benefits. But let everyone decide for himself whether to go under the bullets in Donbass for the sake of possible benefits and the opportunity to serve in the police, or to go to a sick aunt in Gomel. Although..Maybe Ukraine is NOT EUROPE !? Then I will ask again: "WHAT STANDED FOR ON MAIDAN ?, wealthy Ukrainians!"
  29. romic
    0
    1 August 2014 21: 04
    I don’t understand how all Ukrainians turned out to be zombies. and when they wake up.
    1. +4
      1 August 2014 21: 08
      Quote: romance
      I don’t understand how all Ukrainians turned out to be zombies. and when they wake up.

      Here the summer will fly by and General Frost will come !!! He will quickly cool these empty heads and the rumbling of empty bellies will begin to bring the remnants of the brain to the right thoughts !! Well, since no, then it's just clinical idios .. you !! Medicine is useless here!
    2. +2
      1 August 2014 21: 32
      I don’t understand how all Ukrainians turned out to be zombies. and when they wake up.

      Here the puppeteers will "throw" them, "white flies will fly"! Maybe then ?!
  30. +1
    1 August 2014 21: 06
    Commissar of Kiev: the problem with the call in the army of reservists exists

    Rather, the problem with the heads of those who announced this kit and those who perform it !!
  31. +1
    1 August 2014 21: 09
    Scary pictures are printed on packs of cigarettes in order to discourage smokers. It is necessary to upload more scary pictures with ukrovoyaki on the Internet, so that they will bypass the military commissariat of the tenth road!
  32. VICTOR-61
    +3
    1 August 2014 21: 15
    Many realized that the fascist government is doomed - for a short time it remains
  33. +2
    1 August 2014 21: 17
    Ride on the Maidan. Do not fight .... Immediately the people grew wiser as the summons came.
    1. +1
      1 August 2014 21: 29
      the people have not grown wiser. There, most of the people have "my chat on the edge"
  34. Everest2014
    +1
    1 August 2014 21: 18
    Quote: kostya-petrov
    Russia, was severely punished, and by its own mistakes !!!
    Let's be honest, the line we took with difficulty.

    It is worth recognizing the victory for the USSR. After this war, the USSR grimly crushed the EU army of those years and made this more worthy of the attackers. If it weren’t for the nuclear weapons of the states, it is possible that now we would eat beef from the New York region, the collective farm Krasny Ilyich :)
  35. +10
    1 August 2014 21: 23

    musical pause
  36. +7
    1 August 2014 21: 27
    Do not fig was jumping on the Maidan
  37. Atanda
    +6
    1 August 2014 21: 34
    the end of the junta!
  38. 3vs
    +3
    1 August 2014 21: 48
    I would like to quote the Gospel: “Leave them: they are blind leaders of the blind; but if a blind man leads a blind man, then both will fall into the pit ”(Matthew 15,14).

    People, no one has seen Kalo Moischa?
    He is looking for INTERPOL, if anyone saw, let me know.
  39. +10
    1 August 2014 21: 51
    If anyone reads according to my writings.
    Today there was a topic about the gathering of reservists. They wrote about the comments on the Censor. I will not cheat, anyone interested, read it yourself.
    What surprised me is that people on our site are happy to go and want to join the "partisans". which is very pleasing (I just remember the Soviet period of "partisanship")
    So, what am I ... We are ready to go for anything and everything, and they are on the Censor ... well, you will guess.
    R.S. Airborne from August 2 (well, who he has already come)
    Glory to the Airborne Forces!
    1. leglun
      0
      2 August 2014 07: 40
      And you try either to write on the censor. I tried, wrote 2 times and everything, even without mats, blocked
  40. Belisarios
    +8
    1 August 2014 22: 07
    Mobilization is underway in BerdIchev. Old Izya climbs into the underground. His wife Tsilya yells: "Rabinovich, you are quite cool! You are already over 70!"
    "Who knows! Maybe they need generals ?!" (from)
    ;)
  41. +7
    1 August 2014 22: 20
    Voice of Sevastopol:
    Reliable sources from Kharkiv report: “This afternoon (July 30), six buses stopped at the ATB supermarket in Lyubotin, from which a half dozen people in masks and with machine guns got out, they took all men from 18 to 60 out of the store, loaded onto buses and took away ...
    In the evening, at the Salyut stop, they took away several guys who just stood and waited for the tram.
    Yesterday, all the men, right in swimming trunks, and several other fishermen were taken away to Bezludovsky beach, and they were also taken to military registration and enlistment offices.
    Today it is reported from a reliable source that from August 5 they completely block the border with the Russian Federation - they will not let out any of the men. 3000 nat come to Kharkov guardsmen - to ensure a massive mobilization. It was ordered that the power structures resettle everyone home.
    Each district is given a schedule to allocate a certain amount of wheeled vehicles and refuel it.
    The order for conscription in Kharkov is 10 people.
    They will go home: two or three guardsmen with machine guns, a representative of the police department and the military registration and enlistment office, and pick up directly from the apartments - from 18 to 60 years.
    ALL!
    Without a medical board!
    People are all hunted down by such chaos and just in despair, they don’t know what to do.
    No one here from the recruits will be given weapons. Everyone is taken to the ATO zone and only there they will be given out equipment and weapons.
    Men from the East will be sent to the most dangerous sectors of the front - so that everyone will surely die. And nat. the guard will stand behind and shoot all who refuse to fire on militias or want to desert.


    Just as cattle are collected and driven to slaughter in the ATO, the only thing you can notice from the events is that such a contingent of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is more afraid of the National Guard than militias, and when they are captured by the latter, they start to cry and lament that there’s nothing to do with anyone they didn’t shoot from peaceful ones!
    1. 0
      4 August 2014 00: 29
      Quote: ivanovich
      Men from the East will be sent to the most dangerous sections of the front

      if not disinfect, it is. Because the south is exactly the same. Kiev is weak, but in the memory in general silence, they do not go and they are not caught.
      But in the south and in the east they secretly row everyone. The logic is understandable - Russians will kill Russians. Grind Russian Ukraine and all business.
      It is quite likely that Kiev will benefit from the reformatting of Russian Ukraine into Western Ukraine, since the Russians will all die in the east and fight with each other ..
  42. +2
    1 August 2014 22: 23
    It is necessary to intensify the anti-war movement in Bandera. For example, to organize and count those who have relatives, friends, neighbors went to the eastern front and: died, went missing (99% died), do not get in touch for more than 1 week (99% died). And immediately it becomes clear how many Bandera people died, this info will become a powerful detonator of anti-war sentiment and actions.
  43. +5
    1 August 2014 22: 32
    Zagrad detachments, in action ...
  44. Drunya
    +10
    1 August 2014 22: 34
    musical pause
  45. +6
    1 August 2014 22: 40
    I recommend reading a short excerpt from the article “What and how the Ukrainian army is fighting in the Donbass” if someone has not read it.
    Source: http://rusplt.ru/world/armiya-11616.html

    The shortcomings of the Ukrainian troops are obvious. This army had never fought before, and as a peacetime army was very far from ideal. All twenty-odd years of independence, the armed forces of Ukraine existed with a minimum of funding, equipment and training.
    The Kiev authorities managed to launch a poorly working mobilization conveyor, which allows using the strengths of the Ukrainian army against the rebels - superiority in manpower and equipment. The production of new weapons will not be established soon (if at all), but the re-preservation of old Soviet stocks is put on stream. Specialists of the necessary military professions were mobilized, repair units and factories remaining from the USSR were commissioned. So a shortage of old Soviet equipment in the army of Kiev is not expected, even in conditions of high losses.
    But with all the increase in combat readiness and forces of the Ukrainian army in the near future it will have to face new problems. By the middle of summer, the negative consequences of the socio-economic crisis caused by the Maidan revolution and military confrontation in the East began to manifest themselves. A crisis is inevitable, its surge is expected by autumn. Simultaneously, since July, dissatisfaction with the protracted war began to surface for the first time. The first reports of protests against mobilization and mass evasion of it appeared. What is characteristic, reports of such incidents appear more often in the west of the country, which for many years was considered a bastion of nationalism and patriotism.
    If in the coming weeks the Kiev army cannot defeat the rebels, it will inevitably have to face big problems in the rear. With those problems that are not resolved by nationalist slogans and the mobilization of old Soviet weapons.
  46. +3
    1 August 2014 22: 47
    The problem is not the call. Problems in ideology. Namely: with whom you, son, went to fight and where will you bow your little head and in the name of what?
    1. 0
      3 August 2014 15: 51
      Quote: siberalt
      The problem is not the call. Problems in ideology. Namely: with whom you, son, went to fight and where will you bow your little head and in the name of what?

      If the ideology is headed by people like Lyashko. He has already been stoned to such a stage that he declares: "We will continue the war for the holy cause - for the creation of the Great Kiev Empire," Lyashko said and explained that now the Ukrainian nation and the Ukrainian state are deprived because of the "foreign occupation" of a large part of its historical territories, these are some regions of Poland, Moldova, Romania, Russia and Belarus. " wassat
      Lyashko has progressive schizophrenia.
  47. Commissar
    +2
    1 August 2014 23: 01
    Mothers of soldiers who died in the east of their own country - this is the Potsdam tribunal for the junta!
  48. +5
    1 August 2014 23: 06
    DNR: Ukrainian army runs out of steam 0
    Text: Ruslan Melnikov (Donetsk)
    01.08.2014, 22: 11
    Link Publish to blog Printable versionPrintable version
    Near Shakhtersky, the Ukrainian 25th airmobile division was destroyed and prisoners were captured. According to the press center of the Donetsk People’s Republic, captured soldiers are already testifying.

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    "The Ukrainian military note that in the Ukrainian army, soldiers are tricked and forced to go to war and, in fact, under pain of physical harm are sent to the slaughter. They also note the extremely low level of tactical training of Ukrainian commanders and, in general, it seems that someone really needs and it is beneficial that as few Ukrainian youngsters return from this war as possible. They are not even gathered in companies and battalions, but simply in a heap, "rammed" into armored vehicles and driven simply to slaughter, "the press center said.

    At the same time, the militias themselves confirm that the Ukrainian troops are beginning to run out of steam. Their attacks lose strength. Another important indicator is noted: a decrease in the quantity and, most importantly, the quality of Ukrainian armored vehicles.

    "If in the early days of the war tanks of a modern design appeared on the battlefield, then recently not only equipment removed from long-term storage, but also old equipment of foreign armies, in particular, Polish, has been noticed," the DPR press center explains.
  49. +3
    1 August 2014 23: 09
    Quote: everest2014
    Quote: kostya-petrov
    She attacked once - it was either with the Finns, or with Sweden, and there we lost !!!

    The Soviet-Finnish War, there KV-2 was having fun, clashes with the Finns showed low efficiency of mosquitoes against machine guns. In general, the victory was for the USSR, but it was somehow ambiguous.

    Truly ... they passed through history ... by ... Don’t be offended, minus not to you, but to our education, so to speak.
  50. +9
    1 August 2014 23: 13
    Features of mobilization in Zapadenshchina ...
  51. Drunya
    +4
    1 August 2014 23: 28
    Message from Strelkova 01.08.2014 22: 11 Moscow time

    We have a tragedy. Today we exchanged two of our prisoners for two "paratroopers". “Airmobiles” went to their own feet. Ours were thrown out like bags: all bones were broken, all the insides were broken, the probability that they would survive was almost zero ... Creatures! What creatures! After all, this is not the "National Guard", this is the "Dnepropetrovsk landing". We will consider. He ordered not to take a single officer of the 25th. NEVER.
    from here - http://icorpus.ru/
    I want to add something but I can’t find the words.
    Scum
    1. 0
      4 August 2014 22: 09
      Take no prisoners from the 25th - and that's fair
  52. +5
    1 August 2014 23: 37
    For any adequate person, such a thought will be paramount, followed by the question:
    Officially, as we know, there is no war in Ukraine, Ukraine has not declared it to anyone, no one has declared it to Ukraine, there are only events in Donbass called ATO! There is not even martial law, and here’s why. During a war, the IMF does not give money, the supply of weapons is prohibited, and participants in a military conflict do have certain humanitarian rights, which they must be provided with humanitarian corridors, evacuation, accommodation, subsequent payments of benefits to participants. etc. All this is expensive, and it is not known how this war will later come back to haunt the one who started it (in terms of the Hague Tribunal, etc.)

    However, the official denial of the war did not prevent the authorities from announcing another wave of all-Ukrainian mobilization, at the same time, moving the draft age of conscripts to 60 years, and finally, putting an end to the pampering with text messages and passing a law on the confiscation of money from the civilian population of the country, calling it nothing less than, "war tax".

    I don’t understand what kind of fool is being counted on in the end? The whole country, against the backdrop of a highly developed, “civilized” world community, has gone crazy... and only Russia is trumpeting and calling for reason! This is the truth, Russia has always had, has and will have a great purpose for humanity on this planet... God bless you, Russia!
  53. +1
    2 August 2014 00: 30
    Quote: andrei332809
    that's what surprised me. on the censor, a fighter on a fighter, almost tomorrow they will go to Crimea to conquer. do not they receive the summons?

    They think war is a computer game. How many lives you want, the opportunity to replay everything... Immortal Supermen - only in the movies... War is harsh and terrible. It’s not for nothing that they say that the bravest are those who know nothing about war... or who are used to raking in the heat with the wrong hands
  54. +1
    2 August 2014 00: 48
    [quote=Duke]1 August 2014, Friday, 23:29
    Ukrainian MPs said returning soldiers would cut them
    A deputy of the Chernihiv city council, regional Alexander Kovalev proposed to ban the sale of alcohol in the evening. He is sure that the soldiers who returned from the punitive war will kill civilians if they get drunk. Obviously, the deputy had in mind primarily the representatives of the authorities themselves.
    “The participants in the operation will return with an injured psyche and can, after drinking in the evening, shoot or kill someone,” the deputy said at the session.
    He called for stopping the sale of alcohol in stores with 22 hours, in restaurants and bars - with 23. Kovalev immediately found an ally in the person of the mayor Alexander Sokolov, who ordered the creation of an appropriate commission.
    The deputies are not far from the truth in their fears, but they do not take into account the fact that for the authorities who plunged the country into a civil war, it is now not so much the soldiers with an injured psyche that are dangerous, as ordinary citizens who are already starting to rebel due to the stifling increase in utility tariffs.
    History repeats itself ...
    Hitler also feared that the sons of the people returning from the Eastern Front would begin to commit the wildest crimes that were happening on Soviet soil.
  55. +2
    2 August 2014 00: 50
    And at this time the fighting p.....s had a huge quarrel with Benya.


    August 01 2014
    Lyashko publicly quarreled with Kolomoisky - the “combat p...s” was left without money

    LL

    Kyiv, August 01 (Navigator, Mikhail Ryabov) – Dnepropetrovsk oligarch Igor Kolomoisky stops funding the Azov and Shakhtersk battalions, which were supervised by the notorious deputy Oleg Lyashko.

    This was announced by Kolomoisky’s deputy Boris Filatov. According to him, now the battalions should not count on help in repairing equipment and providing communications.

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    “We have suspended funding for Azov and Shakhtersk. Because combat commanders must make up their minds. They continue to pump up the scoundrel’s ratings for his pathetic handouts, or they simply fight and receive allowances from us. Moreover, we don’t ask for anything in return,” Filatov wrote, calling Lyashko a “fighting cunt.”

    “The bastard and the stinkers around him are a huge problem for the future of the entire country. Everything, literally everything, that this squalor in a tight-fitting T-shirt and cap touches turns into a farce: popular protest, Maidan and even assistance to the army. The number of his fans is growing, expanding and is already beginning to resemble a sect,” he added.

    Filatov noted that Lyashko “allowed himself to make incorrect and unfair statements about us.”

    “I strongly do not recommend you, Lyashko, to appear in our field of vision. It’s dangerous to health,” Kolomoisky’s ally also threatened.

    The day before, Lyashko sharply criticized Igor Kolomoisky on TV.

    “Here is Kolomoisky - he sells body armor for 19 thousand UAH. For this money I buy 3-4. Kolomoisky's companies for 30 UAH. They supply the army with diesel per liter. Anyone can sell a bulletproof vest for 20 thousand - give it if you have the money. Don't make money from the army and the state. He owes Ukranafta 1,5 billion hryvnia to the state - let him return this money to the state and there will be normal assistance,” Lyashko said.
  56. +1
    2 August 2014 01: 09
    Quote: sabakina
    Guys, I reviewed these shots several times, by golly, it is better to die from a bullet (even mine) or a fragment, than that ...

    I looked too. and I was shocked that I didn’t feel sorry for them.
  57. +3
    2 August 2014 03: 12
    Kyiv reservists have three options:
    1 Go to serve the junta and fight with your people. In this case, you can disappear without a trace in an unmarked grave.
    2 Flee from conscription and save your life but risk being caught and imprisoned.
    3 Go over to the side of the militia and maybe also die, but retain your honor.
    Choose you.
    1. mazhnikof.Niko
      0
      2 August 2014 14: 17
      Quote: Alexander 2
      3 Go over to the side of the militia and maybe also die, but retain your honor. The choice is yours.


      Honor(?), what about this? Ne rosumyu! "Whoever has the honor, then the mo.s.kal! No, no!" This is how dill was chosen.
    2. 0
      4 August 2014 00: 35
      Quote: Alexander 2
      Kyiv reservists have three options:
      1 Go to serve the junta and fight with your people. In this case, you can disappear without a trace in an unmarked grave.
      2 Flee from conscription and save your life but risk being caught and imprisoned.
      3 Go over to the side of the militia and maybe also die, but retain your honor.

      Everywhere I see almost the same end - inglorious death...
      Honor is a relative concept (for me, honor was in the USSR, but neither the Russian Federation nor Ukraine evokes any concept of honor)... I don’t think that fighting for the militia is an honor. A civil war is a nationwide murder of one’s own...where is the honor in that? From any perspective, this is a shame...a crime. And it doesn’t matter where you are - in the army or in the militia.
      1. 0
        4 August 2014 00: 46
        Honor is not a concept. Either you have honor or you don’t, what’s relative about that? It is an honor to protect your home, your family. Killing women and children is dishonorable. That's all the concepts
  58. 0
    2 August 2014 04: 10
    I probably agree with the Lvov journalist that mobilization = genocide. Just think about it. Russia sent in troops and conquered everyone within a week. Okay, in two. But the Nazis and other bad guys haven’t gone away. They will remain alive and will produce offspring already in the womb infected with Russophobia, Russo-hatred and Nazism. And in the end we get a whole country (like a cauldron) full of this shit. And now in Novorossiya there is a grinding of Nazi producers, breeders of the Nazi gene pool. Yes, we also suffer losses. But we are Russians, there are still a lot of us, to be honest. But their number is quite finite. And it is much less than a lot. So in Novorossiya the Nazi gene pool is now being crushed, not quickly, with losses, but efficiently. And our task is to provide the militia with the most comfortable conditions possible for this “procedure”.
  59. Dad Sasha
    0
    2 August 2014 05: 39
    There is a problem with conscripting reservists into the army

    Do not delude yourself, dear forum members, that Ukrainian heads are undergoing an epiphany and they do not want to fight with their people, they have realized the horror of “war”, and are opposed to violence. This is wrong! And the name for what is happening is elementary cowardice. They didn’t care about the civilian population in the ATO zone or world peace, they were just scared to die.
    P.S. I in no way wanted to offend those Ukrainians who really understand the essence of this “war” and do not want to follow the lead of the junta. I believe there are such people.
  60. +3
    2 August 2014 06: 24
    but on censor.net, on YouTube, in Odnoklassniki, on Facebook and VKontakte THOUSANDS OF HEROES! THE DESCENDANTS OF THE GREAT UKRIANS (OR ORCS, I CONFUSE THEM ALL THE TIME) WHO, WITH BUBBLE CHESTS OF A COCK, PROUDLY CURE ABOUT HOW THEY LETT THE BLOOD OF THE RUSSIANS, HOW THEY WILL SEND US COFFINS HOME IN MILLIONS, HOW THEY DO US, KATSAPOV IS GOOD FOR HER THE FALTS WILL BE CUTTED AND KILLED!)) ) heroes-hemorrhoids sofa bland...
  61. +1
    2 August 2014 07: 54
    Quote: Dryuya
    musical pause

    It was such a pleasure to listen to the musical break from Dryuni. But if one of the craftsmen replaced the words of the chorus “Uma-Thurman” with “Ukra-ina”, and the words about Tarantino with: “Biden-brute” (for example) or Obama (the same animal), it would be a complete masterpiece. Or maybe just let Uma Thurman sing it properly?
  62. +5
    2 August 2014 09: 53
    I’ve been trying to dissuade my friend for the second day, he signed up for the National Guard, an officer, a cop, without the ability to hold a Kalash in his hands. Twice as sick as me. Single mother, wife, child. Where is he going?
    And who, if not me? - answer. Not a paratrooper at all, I shouldn’t have given him 2 satellites, I’ve seen enough of CNN.
    Bronik - 100 bucks, + combat boots, camouflage, unloading... - all at your own expense.
    1. +2
      2 August 2014 19: 40
      So what's the problem? Show him “the ones who have seen the light” on YouTube. And what they are doing before at the same time.... Let him look the TRUTH in the eyes!

      The fact that it needs to be “broken” for this is a no brainer... That’s why you’re a friend!

      Otherwise, at best, the 200th or so will be captured... But what am I telling you, you know everything yourself!
    2. +2
      2 August 2014 20: 23
      Please ask him - who will feed his child, wife and mother later (when he returns with a load of 200)? The answer is obvious - no one if not him....
    3. 0
      4 August 2014 22: 11
      It won't last long, sorry for the family.
  63. Yurii suh
    +1
    2 August 2014 10: 45
    Uprising in Transcarpathia, Rusyns rose up in arms
    http://pwo.su/8088-vosstanie-v-zakarpate.html
  64. 0
    2 August 2014 10: 50
    After all, they are all fighting on VKontakte. they have their own information war laughing

    crests sit on Russian sites and hate Muscovites
  65. macarque
    0
    2 August 2014 12: 25
    Meanwhile, the mothers of the military continue to protest against sending their children to the war zone. So, on July 20, women from the village of Gamaliyivka (Lviv region) blocked the Kiev-Chop highway, demanding to return home to the wounded soldiers.

    Everyone will return. everyone they find, and for whom their rulers from Fashington and Kyiv will not spare zinc coffins. hi
  66. +3
    2 August 2014 12: 30
    Quote: raccoon
    It was me 300 who lived under the Mongol-Tatars for years - but where are those Mongol-Tatars now?
    I burned Moscow so as not to give it to Napoleon Bonaparte - but how did Bonaparte finish?
    I was sitting in a trench near Volokolamsk, in Stalingrad, and burning in a tank near Kursk, realizing that it was incredibly difficult, almost impossible to keep the Germans, but in a different way - where are the Germans today, where is their Hitler?
    I’m a soldier, but in civilized Europe they didn’t know about it, therefore it was to my house that everyone who was not lazy came. Turks, British, Poles, Germans, French .... There was enough land for everyone - 2,5 meters for each. The Americans are really afraid to come, they are hoping for rockets and a fifth column, but for them we have a lot of land - enough for everyone, in abundance.
    I was, is and will be a Russian soldier - I don't need someone else's, but I will never give mine to anyone. I don't need your hypocritical "freedom" - the freedom from being human. To be human, I do not need your rotten democracy of capitalism, your two-faced concepts and all that you call Western "values" are alien to me - perversions, vices, deception and endless greed. I have other interests. Russian people are more interested in space, education, medicine, science and the development of the creative abilities of each person. The Russian person likes to create. I politely warn you one last time. Do not get in my way - I am building the world, I love the world, but I know how to fight better than anyone else. Best regards, Russian soldier.

    Awesome Words! Printed it out, framed it and put it in my office on Monday! Thanks buddy! I combined everything that was in pieces in my head personally! Thanks again! There are still talents in the Russian land!
  67. urrawpot
    0
    2 August 2014 12: 37
    Quote: rpek32
    After all, they are all fighting on VKontakte. they have their own information war laughing

    crests sit on Russian sites and hate Muscovites


    Back in 1984, I visited my parents (my father was in the military) in the summer in Svetlovodsk, Kremenchug region. so for the rest of my life
    I remember meeting 13-14-year-old peers. The first thing they said after they found out I was from Leningrad was “So that your Leningrad can eat without our potatoes and cebula.” You, I am a Nazi mug, are eating us up.
    ...Having talked about politics in this way, as if nothing had happened, we went to play football.
    I want to say, this ukrogreatness existed in the USSR too!!!
  68. urrawpot
    0
    2 August 2014 12: 41
    Raccoon! It is ugly, at least, to change the words “occupier” to “soldier” in someone else’s text and pass it off as your thoughts, getting
    a bunch of pluses. Somehow this is Jewish and UNWORTHY OF A RUSSIAN SOLDIER!!!!!!!!!!!
    ORIGINAL TEXT circulating on the Internet and also on topwar
  69. urrawpot
    0
    2 August 2014 12: 42
    HERE IS THE ORIGINAL TEXT circulating on the Internet and also on topwar:
    Hello. I am a Russian occupier. This is my profession. This is how it happened historically. I occupied Siberia. Now
    oil, gas, aluminum and a bunch of other useful things are extracted there. Now there are cities in which there are multi-story buildings,
    kindergartens, hot water and hospitals. Now you can’t sell women there for a bundle of sable skins, as was the case
    to the Russians. I occupied the Baltic states. He built factories and power plants there. Instead of their funny farms. Baltics
    made high-quality radio equipment and cars, and was famous for its perfumes and balms. I was asked to leave there. Now
    sprats are mined there, and most of the working-age population cleans European toilets. I occupied Central Asia.
    He built canals, factories, spaceports, hospitals and stadiums there. Space rockets and airplanes were built there,
    oil and gas and chemical equipment, mined copper, oil and gold, grew wheat and cotton for the whole country.
    I was asked to leave there. Now American loans are mined there, hemp and opium poppy are grown, and half
    The working population left to work as janitors or at construction sites of the former occupiers. I occupied Ukraine. And there
    I also built factories and power plants, bridges and factories, mines and universities. Ukraine made aviation
    engines, ships, tanks and cars. I was asked to leave there. Now they produce Maidans in commodity
    quantities. And they don’t produce shit there anymore, but they are sure that Europe is waiting for them with open arms. AND
    you know what else? I'm tired of apologizing for being an occupier. Yes, I'm an occupier. By right of birth. Device
    I know the Kalashnikov assault rifle better than the design of a milk nipple. I am an aggressor and bloodthirsty. Be afraid. It's me 300
    lived under the Mongol-Tatars for years - but where are those Mongol-Tatars now? It was I who burned Moscow so as not to give it to Napoleon
    Bonaparte - but how did Bonaparte end? It was I who sat in a trench near Volokolamsk, in Stalingrad and burned in a tank near Kursk
    , realizing that it is incredibly difficult, almost impossible, to keep the Germans, but there is simply no other way - where are those today?
    Germans, where is their Hitler? I am an occupier, but in civilized Europe they did not know about this, so it was to my home
    Everyone came if they weren't too lazy. Turks, British, Poles, Germans, French.... There was enough land for everyone - 2,5 meters per
    everyone. The Americans are really afraid to come, they hope for missiles and a fifth column, but we also have a lot of land for them -
    there is enough for everyone, in abundance. I was, am and will be a Russian occupier - I don’t need someone else’s, but I will never give my own to anyone
    will not give it back. I don't need your hypocritical "freedom" - freedom from being human. To be human I
    I don’t need your rotten democracy of capitalism, your two-faced concepts and everything that you call Western are alien to me
    “values” are perversions, vices, deception and endless greed. I have other interests. Russian people have more
    I am interested in space, education, medicine, science and the development of the creative abilities of each person. Russian
    man likes to create. I'm warning you politely for the last time. Don't get in my way - I'm building peace, I love
    peace, but I know how to fight better than anyone.
    Sincerely, Russian occupier.
  70. urrawpot
    +1
    2 August 2014 12: 43
    Raccoon! It is ugly, at least, to change the words “occupier” to “soldier” in someone else’s text and pass it off as your thoughts, getting
    a bunch of pluses. Somehow this is Jewish and UNWORTHY OF A RUSSIAN SOLDIER!!!!!!!!!!!

    HERE IS THE ORIGINAL TEXT circulating on the Internet and also on topwar:
    Hello. I am a Russian occupier. This is my profession. This is how it happened historically. I occupied Siberia. Now
    oil, gas, aluminum and a bunch of other useful things are extracted there. Now there are cities in which there are multi-story buildings,
    kindergartens, hot water and hospitals. Now you can’t sell women there for a bundle of sable skins, as was the case
    to the Russians. I occupied the Baltic states. He built factories and power plants there. Instead of their funny farms. Baltics
    made high-quality radio equipment and cars, and was famous for its perfumes and balms. I was asked to leave there. Now
    sprats are mined there, and most of the working-age population cleans European toilets. I occupied Central Asia.
    He built canals, factories, spaceports, hospitals and stadiums there. Space rockets and airplanes were built there,
    oil and gas and chemical equipment, mined copper, oil and gold, grew wheat and cotton for the whole country.
    I was asked to leave there. Now American loans are mined there, hemp and opium poppy are grown, and half
    The working population left to work as janitors or at construction sites of the former occupiers. I occupied Ukraine. And there
    I also built factories and power plants, bridges and factories, mines and universities. Ukraine made aviation
    engines, ships, tanks and cars. I was asked to leave there. Now they produce Maidans in commodity
    quantities. And they don’t produce shit there anymore, but they are sure that Europe is waiting for them with open arms. AND
    you know what else? I'm tired of apologizing for being an occupier. Yes, I'm an occupier. By right of birth. Device
    I know the Kalashnikov assault rifle better than the design of a milk nipple. I am an aggressor and bloodthirsty. Be afraid. It's me 300
    lived under the Mongol-Tatars for years - but where are those Mongol-Tatars now? It was I who burned Moscow so as not to give it to Napoleon
    Bonaparte - but how did Bonaparte end? It was I who sat in a trench near Volokolamsk, in Stalingrad and burned in a tank near Kursk
    , realizing that it is incredibly difficult, almost impossible, to keep the Germans, but there is simply no other way - where are those today?
    Germans, where is their Hitler? I am an occupier, but in civilized Europe they did not know about this, so it was to my home
    Everyone came if they weren't too lazy. Turks, British, Poles, Germans, French.... There was enough land for everyone - 2,5 meters per
    everyone. The Americans are really afraid to come, they hope for missiles and a fifth column, but we also have a lot of land for them -
    there is enough for everyone, in abundance. I was, am and will be a Russian occupier - I don’t need someone else’s, but I will never give my own to anyone
    will not give it back. I don't need your hypocritical "freedom" - freedom from being human. To be human I
    I don’t need your rotten democracy of capitalism, your two-faced concepts and everything that you call Western are alien to me
    “values” are perversions, vices, deception and endless greed. I have other interests. Russian people have more
    I am interested in space, education, medicine, science and the development of the creative abilities of each person. Russian
    man likes to create. I'm warning you politely for the last time. Don't get in my way - I'm building peace, I love
    peace, but I know how to fight better than anyone.
    Sincerely, Russian occupier.
  71. +1
    2 August 2014 14: 08
    Of course, jumping is not fighting. They are fiercely worried about the owl. Everyone, as if one were for the great Krajina empire, only that someone else would go kill and die for them. The country of great thieves and freeloaders.
  72. +1
    2 August 2014 15: 38
    Nobody wants to fight for the Ukrop National Guard laughing
  73. +1
    2 August 2014 19: 03
    I always thought that the theater was beginning, UGH! The army begins with the military registration and enlistment office. Poor military commissar - nothing goes well with his service at all. He sent letters to enterprises and universities. Around universities in the summer! A very effective move. Surprisingly it didn't work.
    Have you tried walking along the beaches? In Mariupol, for example, the beaches are filled with majors who have left Donetsk. How hard it was for them there - tanks drove through the streets and did not give way to them. So, I had to leave.
  74. +3
    2 August 2014 20: 33
    I drew attention to some changes that have occurred in our television reports and news. They began to show more often the performance of Ukrainian women against the war and the quantitative increase in protesters. If you listen to the reports of our journalists about “... rallies of mothers of Ukrainian soldiers against the war in Donbass..”, you get the impression that in another week or two, Poroshenko’s regime will collapse. But if you listen carefully and watch what mothers and wives demand, then you see something else. The mothers of soldiers are not in favor of ending the war in Donbass and do not demand to stop bombing cities and towns of the DPR and LPR. They demand that untrained “boys” and their fathers not be sent to the ATO zone. They demand that the government arm them well, give them body armor, good uniforms, feed them properly, and if they sent them, then pay them good money. Look at Ukrainian TV channels, you can hear very clearly what they say and what is written on the posters. Moms suggest sending professionals to fight, and not stopping the war and the killing of citizens like them. There is no slogan: “No to war.” There is a desire to kill, but only without losses among one’s own children and husbands. And sadly, such mothers and wives are still the majority. They want loan payments to stop while the breadwinner is killing people in the Donbass, for all those who died to receive benefits, for all the combatants to be paid good money, and for the state to pay for their children’s education in universities. And while our women are crying in front of the TV, out of pity for Ukrainian mothers, the children of these mothers are killing women and children. Look at the demands of the Ukrainian army soldiers to the president: “to declare martial law,” that is, to give the opportunity to kill everyone and everything officially. It is they who “see the light” in captivity and begin to pretend that they are deceived and unfortunate, who are afraid of going to prison for refusing to kill their fellow citizens. A typical example is that of 41 soldiers of the Ukrainian army who were surrounded and asked the militia to let them into Russian territory, saying that we did not want to shed the blood of our fellow citizens. And now they are saying in court in Zaporozhye that they were forced to surrender because they ran out of ammunition. Those who did not want to fight against their fellow citizens had long ago left either for the EU to work or to the countries of the Customs Union, those who remained were those who were ready to kill or who were confident that they would pay off. They long for victory in Donbass and are preparing for a campaign against Crimea, but they don’t yet believe that this will not look like a trip to resorts in Turkey and Egypt.
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  76. 0
    2 August 2014 20: 48
    Hey, military commander!

    About a thousand fans of Metalist Kharkov and Dynamo Kyiv marched through the center of the city in a procession “For a United Ukraine.” At the head of the column, the ultras carried a huge yellow-blue banner with the text of one of the chants about the President of the Russian Federation. The procession, timed to coincide with today's Premier League match "Metalist" - "Dynamo", started at Constitution Square. The ultras, “armed” with Ukrainian flags, spoke patriotic chants and did not forget to mention Putin.

    As one of the march participants, Alexei, said, Ukrainian football fans have concluded an indefinite truce. “Now is not the time to fight. The fighting in the east of the country has only united people. Let the truce become eternal peace,” added Alexey. During the entire journey to the Metalist stadium, the ultras were accompanied by the police, traffic police and volunteers of the Red Cross Society.


    I wonder if they also concluded a truce with Shakhtar and Zarya? Although, these guys have no time for shouting now.
    1. 0
      4 August 2014 00: 38
      I hate the fans and their damn football... they already went through with their Moronic United Kingdom once and after that my city still can’t move away... 50 corpses and 250 injured... shooting and mass murder.. thank you "peaceful" fans of Kharkov Metalist with your United Region...
      1. 0
        4 August 2014 00: 47
        What about football?
  77. 0
    2 August 2014 21: 16
    NEWSru reports.
    In Kyiv, on Maidan Nezalezhnosti, in two tents of the hundred of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists, a mobilization point for the newly created OUN battalion opened. 14 volunteers who have already completed training are scheduled to go to the Ukrainian army on Thursday. Radio Liberty reports this.

    “The Maidan should become a total mobilization point, that is, some people should mobilize, send people for training. So that later they would go to volunteer battalions or the regular army - to the front. Other volunteers should put up their tents here and collect help. Doctors - conduct some of their own courses. Girls who want to help - learn minimal medical knowledge," says centurion of the First Kyiv Hundred of OUN Nikolai Kokhanivsky.

    Some of the hundreds of people were previously sent to the Azov battalion. At the moment, there are a couple of OUN (30 people) operating in the ranks of this battalion. Since the Azov battalion is already staffed, new volunteers are being enrolled in the newly created OUN battalion.

    So it goes.
  78. 0
    2 August 2014 22: 02
    I was at a reception in 1998 in Kyiv with the “military commissar”. The bribe was unobtrusively demanded, like a general, simply for transferring a personal file to another area. Thanks to my father, one call - a hint, and everything was decided.
    How nice it is to be the son of an officer! Only this comes with time.
    And I have a daughter, I won’t drive you out to the horizontal bar at 7-00.... Although I’m already waiting for suitors..
    When they come, I’ll put a 24 kg weight in my hands, if I can’t lift it, goodbye.
  79. +1
    2 August 2014 22: 34
    They don’t want to fight, they stand silently in the military registration and enlistment offices and wait like a herd of sheep!
  80. +1
    2 August 2014 23: 17
    I wonder, will the military commissar of Kyiv send his son to the front line? The chocolate king hid his chocolate bunny abroad.
  81. 0
    2 August 2014 23: 49
    "best" of the worst
  82. 0
    3 August 2014 15: 03
    More problems with the call:
  83. 0
    3 August 2014 16: 00
    And then a strange picture appeared to the eyes of the militia: an absolutely black figure emerged from the hatch of the armored personnel carrier and, clinging to the ground, began to move away along the bottom of the ditch.
    - Stop the fire, take it alive! Shouted the commander.
    The militiamen rushed in pursuit with whistles and hooting. Soon the black silhouette was overtaken. It turned out to be a completely naked Negro from the tribe ... He did not name his tribe, citing ignorance of the Russian language. Only the familiar "fakies" from imported films flew from his thick lips.
    The assumption that this representative of the species homo negritosus was kidnapped by Ukrainians from the local ethnographic museum and was taken away in an armored personnel carrier as a souvenir was the initial working version, but the clothes of a racial Ukrainian nationalist found in the armored personnel carrier, which the black man discarded to take advantage of natural camouflage, was completely refuted this is an assumption, and when the black man tried to speak Georgian, all doubts disappeared - this rare specimen today served as an adviser in Saakashvili’s army. Now, when the center of the battle of global world evil against those moral principles that have not yet allowed humanity to degenerate has moved to Donbass, this unbending fighter for the final victory of the world gang of pederastic plutocrats was sent here, where real men from all over the world are fighting for a matter of goodness and justice. Goodness and justice triumphed this time too, and soon, probably, this specimen or its stuffed animal will take its rightful place in the museum of our victory. Black Givi from the Kiwi tribe. laughing
  84. Belozerov
    0
    3 August 2014 18: 31
    Payment for Donbass

    Tell me brave guys
    Our Ukrainian army
    How much did you get paid?
    So that you bomb Donbass?

    Why against the South-East
    You have so much cruelty
    Why the population of Donbass
    Biomass for security forces?

    Or the ideas of Nazism
    Your native homeland is dearer to you
    And, killing countless people,
    You are not afraid of God or the devil.

    And when Slavic children cry,
    Yours are just jumping
    And they shout, grinning:
    "He who doesn't jump is the one"

    When you bomb, you repent
    Or you are toiling with unitarity.
    Or maybe for your revenge
    Are we just "cargo 200"?

    For you we are Colorados and quilted jackets,
    Those who don't want to go west
    And help in your mission
    Ukrainian energy independence.

    And we just want that night and day
    Artillery fire
    Our cities and villages were not shelled
    Galician boys are funny.

    And the American guys
    Spreading ideological lies,
    Shale gas was extracted
    And people were killed for this.

    So why with your charter,
    Leaving your Lvov and Kyiv,
    You are in someone else's monastery frantically
    Have you come to prescribe the truth?

    And how much did they pay you?
    So that you bomb Donbass?
  85. Belozerov
    +1
    3 August 2014 19: 07
    Ukrainian soldier

    I, a murdered resident of Slavyansk,
    Killed by you, Ukrainian soldier,
    For living my whole life according to my conscience,
    He was a support in his old age and in his youth.

    Who are you to show me my path?
    And impose your will on me,
    What have you forgotten in my coal land,
    Why are you killing my frightened people?

    Or do you imagine yourself to be the chosen race?
    And he hid weapons in his bosom for a long time,
    And here under the auspices of liberation
    Are you killing the population of Donbass?

    After all, my house was blown up by your hands,
    And you are a killer, not caught by the hand,
    And your path, densely pitted with craters,
    I follow you, killed by you.

    And I see your conscience blurred,
    And the truth of the soul, broken bit by bit,
    But a small particle remained in her,
    Which the war has not yet broken.

    And with the face of an icon she prays for you,
    Concerned about the salvation of your soul
    And he begs God for the inhabitants of Slavyansk
    Forgiveness to you, Ukrainian soldier.
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    4 August 2014 03: 01
    I live in Kiev. I was on Khreshchatyk... For the first time in a year. Dirt, stench, drunks. Lots of homeless people
  87. 0
    4 August 2014 03: 08
    And I also want to say that many, many, many have had their minds blown by UkroSMI. The other day I was almost beaten twice in one evening just because in a conversation I regretted the fact that we don’t have Putin. Things like that...
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  89. 0
    4 August 2014 15: 25
    The term for evading service is less than for desertion, so Ukrainians have something to think about....... Yes
  90. 0
    4 August 2014 17: 55
    Bravo, Raccoon!
  91. 0
    4 August 2014 22: 30
    I, a non-military person and far from politics, have the following impression: the junta is purposefully destroying the Ukrainian army and everyone in the southeast.
    Bottom line: those who rode on the Maidan and fought with the golden eagle for freedom from the oligarchs die, the army, militias and civilians of the southeast die.
    Next, Kalomoi seizes power relying on the SBU and the right sector, sweeping away the snout, the corpse, the egg sniffer, the dog, the thigh, the tummum, and other animals. The Meriks refused to supply weapons to dill, because they realized that the dill prez piglet did not have real power and strength. The money has been invested, there is no result in the southeast - people are still living, dissatisfied with the bombing and shooting of their homes, a handful of stubborn militias are grinding the dill yo..rmy. “The 2-dill warriors surrender in orderly ranks or desert.
    Who in their right mind would support this rabble in Kueva, who imagine themselves to be the authorities?