Okhlobystin Ivan: "The introduction of Russian peacekeepers in the Donbass is the only right decision

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I do not know: it is obvious to me alone that the immediate introduction of the Russian peacekeeping corps in the Donbass is the only right decision to stop the bloodshed in the peaceful cities of Novorossia, save 5 thousands of Ukrainian "conscripts" who were squeezed in the "Southern boiler" from total destruction (although after the last Gorlovka’s barbaric bombardment is hard to find in itself enough mercy, but it’s necessary, if we still consider ourselves Orthodox Christians, to stop the emerging treachery in the highest business echelons around the Kremlin (their birthplace money, they will not regret anyone, including GDP, although he probably understands this himself), to prevent the final collapse of Ukraine (what is left of it, thanks to the talents of ukrofashistov), ​​the ruin of Europe (which is on the verge of a global economic crisis) the fault of America’s world bankruptcy, shamelessly parasitizing on it) and the beginning of civil disagreement in Russia (everyone understands that the fall of Novorossia will be a crushing, fatal blow to the trustworthiness of Russian patriots), and in simple words - finally stop this so bloody Sabbath provoked by the US secret services under the inept leadership of the Obama administration and systematically lead to World War III?

With regards to the fear that this step will provoke NATO to introduce its troops into Ukraine, there is no need to worry - NATO has been there for a long time, only the task of NATO is not to save the Independent Square, but to control its transformation into a buffer zone of the conflict between the US and Russia . In the lifeless landfill - funnel-drenched desert.

And I am not guided by imperial ambitions when I write these lines, but by common sense arguments and facts of the events.

Now is the best time to normalize the situation. Then everything will be the same, but with catastrophic losses for the whole world.

PS I would be extremely grateful if there were my like-minded people who were fluent in English, German, French and Spanish, who could translate this text to foreign readers and clearly convey my arguments to them.

God bless you, brothers and sisters!
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  1. +4
    30 July 2014 06: 38
    He speaks correctly!
    1. +50
      30 July 2014 06: 41
      Quote: dima67
      He speaks correctly!


      Yes, it says it right. That's just to give the armed forces the status of peacekeepers, a UN mandate is needed. And without it, this operation will be considered occupation. And what is today's UN, we all have already seen.
      1. +6
        30 July 2014 06: 54
        Quote: mamont5
        Quote: dima67
        He speaks correctly!


        Yes, it says it right. That's just to give the armed forces the status of peacekeepers, a UN mandate is needed. And without it, this operation will be considered occupation. And what is today's UN, we all have already seen.

        Let this not be a peacekeeping mission, but a humanitarian one, call it the power supply of humanitarian corridors!
        1. +2
          30 July 2014 07: 46
          If the plans of our special services have the option of discrediting the UN so much that it, as is fashionable today, its legitimacy will be in great doubt that the UN no longer meets the requirements for which it was created (in fact, to fight the USSR and now Russia), that the UN needs to be disbanded would be the best option. Well, or to the extremes, to force, under pressure from the UN reality, to issue Russia's permission to enter peacekeepers. Surely work is going on in both of these areas.
          1. 0
            30 July 2014 11: 33
            Sunjar
            ... The UN no longer meets the requirements for which it was created (in fact, to fight the USSR and now Russia) ...

            Dear "general", when the UN was created, its goal was by no means the fight against the USSR. We read the primer:
            UN is an international organization created to maintain and strengthen international peace and security, and to develop cooperation between states.
            The first contours of the UN were outlined at a conference in Washington. At two series of meetings held from September 21 to October 7, October 1944, the United States, Great Britain, the USSR and China agreed on the goals, structure and functions of the world organization.
            On February 11, 1945, after meetings in Yalta, the leaders of the United States, Great Britain and the USSR, Franklin Roosevelt, Winston Churchill and Joseph Stalin, declared their determination to establish a "general international organization for the maintenance of peace and security."
            25 April 1945 g. Representatives of 50 countries gathered in San Francisco at the United Nations Conference on the Creation of an International Organization to develop the UN Charter.

            So, in order not to fool people's heads, first sort out the question you are going to write about. As you rightly noted, the UN no longer meets the requirements that were originally laid down in this organization. At present, having turned into an instrument of US policy, of course, the UN acts only as much as it is allowed to act. A clear example is the fact that the UN was unable to stop the US invasion of Iraq. And "to force, under the pressure of reality, the UN to issue permission to Russia to bring in peacekeepers" without resolving this issue with Washington, well, we will not succeed, just like disbanding this organization.
            1. 0
              30 July 2014 16: 02
              It is possible to disband this "UN" organization, Russia is a permanent member of the Security Council. But there is no reform. The question is whether this organization, which dances to America's tune, is needed at all. My opinion is not needed.
          2. 0
            30 July 2014 13: 38
            Quote: Sunjar
            ... to force, under pressure from the UN reality, to issue Russian permission to enter peacekeepers. Surely work is going on in both of these areas.

            I am sure that such work is going on. And it is right. We are manipulating the whole world, so why don't we try smile
            But the main thing, as it has been written many times, is to prevent the victory of the oligarchic lobby in the GDP in saving Ukraine from fascism !!!
        2. +3
          30 July 2014 08: 33
          It is important how the world calls it ... and he will unequivocally say that this is an aggressive step in order to support "separatist sentiments and support the conflict in Ukraine ....
          And then, we have already gone through this, if only we get involved, we will give an occasion to blame all the failures on ourselves .. Only the lazy one will not say that everything is because of Russia, we didn’t want at all ... and they will look for those responsible. only tacit support and inconspicuous help, the world is not yet ready to correctly assess the consequences. from a legal point of view, they are still a different state and any state presence is interference in the internal problems of the state. And no need to blame the USA for the EU and others - Strength in truth
        3. -3
          30 July 2014 10: 17
          A familiar Kharkov citizen says that they have 80% of the population during the war. Now the militia is fighting against the junta, if Russia sends troops, it will fight against Russia.
      2. +5
        30 July 2014 06: 55
        You can bungle some kind of cart from the CSTO, in the end! The Supreme Commander would have a desire to compose the correct cart and how to get around the UN powerful apparatus of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs with the smartest uncles! Pin ... they don’t soar at all, they bring a bag of tide and then smuggle any independent state to dogs ... we all choose the right and wise words from Ozhegov’s dictionary so that the world doesn’t think anything bad about us!
        1. +15
          30 July 2014 07: 06
          There is no need to harbor anything, you need to gather all the CSTO members and make a collective decision. Russia alone should not do this. In this scenario, it will be seen how the allied countries relate to the situation, even if they will not be physically involved in the operation.
          1. +8
            30 July 2014 07: 52
            Yesterday this thought tormented me all evening. I agree. Russia has allies, it's time to find out - "Who is with us and who is against." Are they ready to fulfill their obligations?
        2. +4
          30 July 2014 07: 54
          I completely agree (I expressed this idea a month ago). A complete thrill would be if the Chinese could be involved in this matter. But all this requires political will, which, unfortunately, is not visible.
          1. 0
            30 July 2014 10: 23
            Quote: Eragon
            A complete thrill would be if the Chinese could be involved in this matter.

            and all the BRICS countries ... wassat
            1. +2
              30 July 2014 10: 44
              Actually, a really sensible thought. To gather all the BRICS participants, and without provocateurs from the USA and Europe, make an effective political decision on Ukraine. This will be the first step to counter the UN puppet idiocy, and to create truly democratic interaction between the countries.
      3. 0
        30 July 2014 06: 55
        Quote: mamont5
        Quote: dima67
        He speaks correctly!


        Yes, it says it right. That's just to give the armed forces the status of peacekeepers, a UN mandate is needed. And without it, this operation will be considered occupation. And what is today's UN, we all have already seen.

        Can he leave the UN and do his own thing?! Isolation?! We can’t get used to it. Anyway, Europe has nowhere to go from us.
        1. +2
          30 July 2014 07: 07
          Once already left, the war began in Korea.
          1. +2
            30 July 2014 07: 58
            Once already left, the war began in Korea.
            This was not an option, but a boycott in protest against the fact that China’s place in the UN was occupied by the Kuomintang representative.
            1. 0
              30 July 2014 08: 05
              I agree. But the essence of the matter does not change, the main thing is that while there is an opportunity and a tribune, we must stand our ground. A vivid example of Syria.
      4. +1
        30 July 2014 08: 01
        You need to start with the sanctions! Sanctions on sanctions. Block the gas to European countries who are involved, completely! And he has not yet escaped to seize the property of their business. He who defends himself only will never win.
        1. 0
          30 July 2014 10: 33
          Net income tax for non-residents of Russia is 99%. Disable "screwdriver" assembly.
          Sell ​​strategic goods for rubles.
          Buy Euro products for rubles.
          ...
      5. 0
        30 July 2014 09: 43
        That's it, the usa and europe do not need the world ...
      6. 0
        30 July 2014 09: 45
        Yes, the UN itself must be dispersed as an appendage of the United States .....
      7. 0
        30 July 2014 20: 25
        Quote: mamont5
        Quote: dima67
        He speaks correctly!


        Yes, it says it right. That's just to give the armed forces the status of peacekeepers, a UN mandate is needed. And without it, this operation will be considered occupation. And what is today's UN, we all have already seen.

        Let them shove this mandate into their mandate, as the State Department had done with Bush in Iraq and they just started stupidly bombing Iraq!
        The UN has long become a garden scarecrow, and all its laws and mandates are paper for the needy of world imperialism and its axis of evil!
    2. +4
      30 July 2014 06: 52
      For the introduction of peacekeeping forces, you need to have a UN mandate and the mutual consent of the warring parties. Today it is not realistic. In addition, it is forbidden to have heavy weapons in service with the peacekeeping forces. And without it, it makes no sense to enter there. There are enough "Indians" there.
    3. 0
      30 July 2014 06: 58
      that is, like this?
      1. +5
        30 July 2014 07: 25
        the immediate introduction of the Russian peacekeeping corps to the Donbass is the only right decision to stop the bloodshed in the peaceful cities of Novorossia, to save 5 thousand Ukrainian “conscripts” from total destruction

        It will not work just to separate the fighters. We'll have to make a choice in favor of one of the parties. Those. what was proposed before - to send troops to Ukraine, but with a "peacekeeping" restriction - only to the area of ​​hostilities, and not to all key points, including Kiev. And what will this half-way solution give us? The United States, consider it, has achieved its goal. Europe, which is resisting pressure from the states, recognizes the righteousness of its owner and curtails almost all trade with Russia, and the latter, having gone deeply into the minus in economic growth, is obliged to feed tens of millions of people, pay them pensions and remove restrictions on free gas. Yes, I know who will have a holiday - at the obamka.
        It is NECESSARY to save New Russia. But to do this simply openly supporting her, transferring her weapons adequately to the airborne weapons, and providing a company to support the recruitment of volunteers, adequate to the mercenary personnel of the airborne forces, which would be more efficient and more honest. And most importantly - no troop deployment.
        1. +1
          30 July 2014 08: 52
          why won't it work? in Georgia in 1993 it turned out. and a UN mandate was not required. was the decision of the CIS. and for Europe to curtail trade with Russia ... how do you imagine? "just hand over weapons" is just to prolong the war. simply to give the Americans time to fulfill their plans for an economic war between Russia and the EU. what about Ukraine? Little Russia, Novorossia, and here and there there will be only ruins and then helping them will cost much more, or do you think that the United States will help?
          1. 0
            30 July 2014 13: 10
            To score on mandates and express "concern" about the integrity of the gas transportation system in Ukraine and instruct this to be checked by polite specialists to the teeth. All the same, Russia is accused of all mortals ...
    4. +4
      30 July 2014 07: 00
      Quote: dima67
      He speaks correctly!

      Well say no bags of cement to carry.
      Entering the military is a full-scale warrior with Ukraine. Maybe it will end in five days, or maybe not.
      1. +5
        30 July 2014 07: 09
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Maybe it will end in five days, or maybe not.

        Now, judging by the mood, former friends from Dneprpetrovsk, and Krivoy Rog, a knife in the back of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation is provided, that's for sure from my ex. Moreover, their brains are so obscured by them that some Russians by nationality do not consider themselves as such. In how. Something like this.
      2. +1
        30 July 2014 10: 31
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Maybe it will end in five days, or maybe not.

        the main thing here is not so much to end the military phase as to clean up the Natsiks and ukrozombies, and there isn’t enough strength for it (even if we drive all the Ministry of Internal Affairs with the FSB to Ukraine), remember western Ukraine after the war, already before 56 we drove through the forests brothers ...
    5. -7
      30 July 2014 07: 10
      Hmm ... Shoot better and more ... And then INTERNES were waiting ... !!!
      1. +1
        30 July 2014 07: 18
        Quote: Armagedon
        Hmm ... Shoot better and more ... And then INTERNES were waiting ...

        And what are the disadvantages, correctly Armageddon says, everyone should do their own thing.
        1. +3
          30 July 2014 08: 05
          correctly armageddon says, everyone should do his own thing.
          The fact that everyone should do his own business is true, but everyone has the right to comprehend what is happening around and express their opinion.
    6. 0
      30 July 2014 09: 03
      Quote: dima67
      He speaks correctly!

      Of course !!! But how many traitors, hiding behind "humanity" and "reasonable" "" considerations "", defend the interests of the oligarchs here - in Russia ?! As for what was stated in the address of Ivan Okhlobystin in the languages ​​he mentioned, these thoughts appear regularly in the social networks of the EU countries. What's the effect? Let's hope and believe! ...
    7. dyremar 66
      0
      30 July 2014 10: 29
      yes well done Ivan talent politician in his appendage to all others
  2. +4
    30 July 2014 06: 39
    Ivan Okhlobystin, as always, is right. I support it 100%
    If, in the current situation, Russia again rests on the "rule of law" and international law, then this, as a result, will pour out into rivers of blood of Russian citizens.
    1. +9
      30 July 2014 07: 26
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Ivan Okhlobystin, as always, is right.

      But I don't agree with him. In the sense that "it is necessary to prevent the final collapse of Ukraine." Ukraine needs to fall apart. The people will not be able to live together. Always wait for the next Maidan, new speeches of the fascists! No really. Let those who were eager to go to Europe roll there and arrange their Maidans there. And let us have Novorossiya. And just like that. How long will it take to educate generations who will understand that the nationality "Ukrainian" was created by the enemies, and was introduced into life according to "political expediency" and what came of it!
      1. +1
        30 July 2014 07: 29
        So you need to help quickly destroy Ukraine!
        But in principle, the revolution devours its children! Donbass calmly looked at how zapadentsy threw Yanukovych, and now he is reaping the fruits of his inertia!
      2. 0
        30 July 2014 10: 37
        Quote: Egoza
        Let those that are eager for Europe roll there and there they arrange their maidan.

        there they will be immediately shown that Ukraine is not Europe, especially in Poland and Germany ...
      3. 0
        30 July 2014 13: 31
        And who will set the boundary marks? Personally, I am, on the border of 1939!
    2. dyremar 66
      0
      30 July 2014 10: 32
      or the fifth column of Putin’s sest and the country or Putin’s Putin and not us, will crush the fifth column — he has opportunities
  3. +3
    30 July 2014 06: 40
    If Putin approves, so be it.
    1. +3
      30 July 2014 06: 47
      That's right, the decision is up to the commander in chief. If the time has come, we’ll introduce it.
  4. Mishanya 84
    +7
    30 July 2014 06: 43
    A lot of people work for Our President. And since such a decision has not yet been made, it means so necessary. V.V. Putin knows best since he has the most complete information on this issue. And probably everyone noticed a large number of exercises, an increase in the receipt of new equipment in the army, and a large number of international negotiations.
  5. nvv
    nvv
    +1
    30 July 2014 06: 44
    That's right. Porosyonok again requested peace.Provocations will follow in the Boeing crash zone. NATO forces are ready. Who is to come?
    1. nvv
      nvv
      +2
      30 July 2014 07: 00
      Step to the salvation of America.
  6. 0
    30 July 2014 06: 46
    it is naive to believe that human rights activists and analysts do not want the same thing that Okhlobystin voiced, but the world is still ignorant of what is happening in Ukraine and the Yankees are doing everything to keep it going as long as possible, in order to finally oppose the whole world against Russia ... hi
    1. 0
      30 July 2014 06: 51
      The fact of the matter is that politicians in Western countries are well aware of what is happening in the ukraine and understand how this can end.
      But the master said - the vassal did.
  7. +4
    30 July 2014 06: 46
    Well, after all, these Ukrainians will play out.
    1. +5
      30 July 2014 06: 53
      It is not the Ukrainians who play here, the Jews forgive me, the peoples are once again poisoning us not without you and the Americans.
      1. +3
        30 July 2014 07: 21
        Quote: Barracuda
        It is not Ukrainians who play here, Jews excuse me, not without you

        Until recently, he belonged to the Jews, at a rating of 3. After meeting on vacation with acquaintances, with the city of Israel, who came to visit, he began to refer to a rating of 2. A complete scribe, a man who was born and raised in Russia, ate with us at one table, and shit as soon as possible in the country in which he grew up, and eats our bread. In general, there is the same anti-Russian propaganda. And friends with partners in Israel Russia does not. (I can, of course, be mistaken, but a rare zas.anets fumbled,) Only because of respect for friends, and the fact that he is a guest, he did not break the scoreboard with a friend. Although they stepped aside and discussed this topic, and this citizen saw this. Which did its job in his verbal diarrhea, which passed.
  8. +3
    30 July 2014 06: 47
    It will not work, the whole world under the control of the USA will howl. In the meantime, Russia is in the UN, it is impossible. Stalin was in no hurry to remember, and his hands were untied.
    1. +2
      30 July 2014 06: 53
      Quote: Barracuda
      It will not work, the whole world under the control of the USA will howl. In the meantime, Russia is in the UN, it is impossible. Stalin was in no hurry to remember, and his hands were untied.

      And the war with the Finns?! And the entrance to Poland, Bessarabia?! It was necessary, Koba sawed on LN (League of Nations) and did what he should.
    2. +2
      30 July 2014 06: 55
      Yes, he (the West) already howls and howls.
      Russia will always be to blame because it is and is rising to its full height.
  9. +2
    30 July 2014 06: 54
    Peacekeeping contingent. But not sweeping entry of troops into the territory of a neighboring country. Again, what will the introduction of peacekeepers bring? Yes, cities will not be bombed from planes and fired by rockets, they will not destroy mortars ... But how will peacekeepers act against a creeping war? In a civil war, everything is decided either by the breeding of the parties, or the destruction of one of the parties. Breeding of the parties = removal of Novorossia into a separate sovereign state from an independent structure. Wasn’t this the beginning of the war? About the destruction of one of the parties, I think that now it is on the fronts of New Russia. Knock out men on both sides. On whose side will remain more. she won.
    1. 0
      30 July 2014 07: 29
      Quote: Zomanus
      Peacekeeping contingent.

      Wait! and gave to enter! They are already squealing in Kiev: "Enter the peacekeeping contingent, but WITHOUT RUSSIAN peacekeepers!"
    2. 0
      30 July 2014 09: 11
      nobody talks about the destruction of one of the parties. and the war began with one of the two sides deciding to provoke a third.
  10. 0
    30 July 2014 06: 57
    The offer is correct and necessary yesterday, God forbid that it be realized as soon as possible.
  11. +5
    30 July 2014 06: 57
    To end the war, you must either change the power in Kiev or in Washington, better both here and there.
    In Kiev it’s easier. Remember - Airborne Forces, Uncle Vasya’s troops. Experience is available (Amin's palace in Kabul).
  12. 0
    30 July 2014 06: 58
    International law, alas, does not exist, and the right of the strong has been in effect for a long time, the United States has monopolized it, so no matter how Russia acts, you will still be wrong in the eyes of the "democrats", act in conscience and from your heart !!!
  13. +1
    30 July 2014 06: 59
    ====== PS I would be very grateful if I could find like-minded people who were fluent in English, German, French and Spanish, who could translate this text for foreign readers and clearly bring my arguments to them. = ===

    Ostap suffered, sick to see
  14. +3
    30 July 2014 07: 00
    "to save from total annihilation 5 thousand Ukrainian" conscripts "trapped in the" Southern Cauldron "" - and put their own people for this? I think the President knows better whether to introduce it or not, or when - a large team is working on it.
  15. Arh
    0
    30 July 2014 07: 01
    It’s time for peacekeepers to all of New Russia !!!
  16. 0
    30 July 2014 07: 03
    Quote: Predator
    Quote: mamont5
    Quote: dima67
    He speaks correctly!


    Yes, it says it right. That's just to give the armed forces the status of peacekeepers, a UN mandate is needed. And without it, this operation will be considered occupation. And what is today's UN, we all have already seen.

    Can he leave the UN and do his own thing?! Isolation?! We can’t get used to it. Anyway, Europe has nowhere to go from us.
    We are not going anywhere from Europe, We are Europe ourselves. Although there is an option and wrote about it, for a long time and in a somewhat different context V.I. Lenin - "..if you just move to the moon ..", nothing, Europe will tolerate a little and "overheat!"
  17. +1
    30 July 2014 07: 05
    And what is it about "incipient betrayal in the highest business echelons"? There was a Prussian military strategist von Clausewitz. So he warned about the danger of the outbreak of war, having no reliable rear.
  18. +1
    30 July 2014 07: 07
    We must help with weapons openly, anyway sanctions. It will not be worse. A piece of paper with an excuse for labor will not amount to scratching.
  19. Tanechka-clever
    0
    30 July 2014 07: 09
    I agree with the author completely.

    "..this step will provoke NATO to send its troops into Ukraine, then there is no need to worry - NATO has been there for a long time ..."

    I understood the Russians are no longer there - and the few that remained - today everyone is on the front line in the Donbass in the army of militias.
    And the Russian "degenerates" - one part of the "jumping" is now killing Russians in the Donbass, and the other part of the "jumping" in Russia under the pressure of the "Jewish" lobby is waiting for the "bloody massacre" in Donbass to dissipate by itself.
  20. 0
    30 July 2014 07: 09
    On the one hand, Ivan is right, but the introduction of peacekeepers is possible only by resolution of the UN Security Council (even if this organization is in gear before ...), direct entry of Russian peacekeepers without a resolution, this is considered aggression against the sovereign democracy of the state of Ukropiya with its full pants.
  21. 0
    30 July 2014 07: 11
    [quote = mamont5] [quote = dima67] Correctly says! [/ quote]

    Yes, it says it right. That's just to give the armed forces the status of peacekeepers, a UN mandate is needed. And without it, this operation will be considered occupation. And what is today's UN, we all have already seen.
    Previously, peacekeepers had to be led when there were not so many killed children, women, old people, and when the militia began to show serious successes, I think it’s not worth interfering, so to speak, to be a jackal snatching victory from those who win it!
  22. DPZ
    0
    30 July 2014 07: 11
    Then everything will be the same, but with catastrophic losses for the whole world.
    and most importantly for Russia, as unplanned material costs we can’t afford, we ourselves somehow survive.
  23. Bogopodob
    +1
    30 July 2014 07: 12
    Before entering the troops, you need to think and create a strategy, otherwise it could be so!
  24. shitovmg
    0
    30 July 2014 07: 21
    Quote: Predator
    Can get out of the UN and do their own thing?


    Then everyone's hands will be untied against us! Churkin copes with his task, through him the world learns the truth, there are neither blind nor deaf sitting! Although many are under the US cap, they internally agree with us and even the position of "abstaining" in the voting speaks volumes !!!
  25. +1
    30 July 2014 07: 32
    "It is obvious to me", "the only correct decision" ... The rest, apparently, do not understand anything. Has the creative director of Baon put a lot on himself?
  26. 0
    30 July 2014 07: 34
    Quote: mamont5

    Yes, it says it right. That's just to give the armed forces the status of peacekeepers, a UN mandate is needed. And without it, this operation will be considered occupation. And what is today's UN, we all have already seen.

    There will never be a "mandate". It was not for this that the Americans spent so much money and energy of the special services to lobby for the "tame Pangi".
    Zy.Oni generally in entom business well done .. The latest achievement of Francois Alland, P. Poroshenko. "Bad" candidates for them suddenly become defendants in corruption scandals or suspected of sexual harassment.
    Our peacekeepers? -Vvodit.U dill ran out of money for war and weapons. NAV will take a "commercial break" to solve these problems. Reshat-dozhmut.Reshim we-squeeze sami.Tem more there is a crisis of power and there are disagreements in their camp.
  27. +1
    30 July 2014 07: 39
    He is not only an actor, but also a priest, which means he understands the events and souls of people better than some armageddons!
    1. 0
      30 July 2014 08: 10
      He is a director by education, not an actor.
  28. +1
    30 July 2014 07: 41
    Oh, this Khlobystov. I just got it. One and the same writes and writes only changes styles. Everyone has seen and understood this for a long time. But this "miracle" put everything in one basket and the national troops and militias. Let's figure out why? The Armed Forces of Krajina took the side of the ATO. They didn't know what they were doing? what They knew perfectly well: on their compatriots. Why? Because they took the oath? They gave, but, again, BUT. They swore an oath to the Motherland and the Supreme i.e. to the legitimate ruler, and where is he now? request They were supposed to suppress the Maydan rebellion. But they didn't. Outcome the junta simply usurped power! And they did. And with a whoop they embarked on an unrighteous path for a bright future "Abroad will help us!" the promised flock of pid .., sorry, maydanutyh on the whole head! Yes, it will help, but what kind of help will it be and what will be the future? Role of a castrated cock in a chicken coop? Those. they chose their own way. Let's go further. They were promised, at the suggestion of overseas friends, a lightning blitz-krieg, but, again, BUT, they forgot that they were going against the Slavs, people with a proud history of VICTORIES! good And who were they against? Against people who wanted to rebuild the country, not its death. And this is what we are now observing i.e. death. The blitz-krieg scribe leaned against a birch tree and "gave an oak." Bottom line: a bunch of corpses, a bunch of cowards, mediocre command, loss of equipment (more precisely, transferring it to more worthy hands). And this miracle yells about 5 thousand conscripts? Eh, well, the history of the Russian armed forces does not teach them anything. And these same conscripts that could not rebel against the senseless massacre on the example of the Potemkin sailors and go over to the side of the militia? So they deserve this boiler! good In short, it is disgusting to read these essays on general topics performed by Khlyubystin am
  29. +3
    30 July 2014 07: 41
    Quote: Barracuda
    It is not the Ukrainians who play here, the Jews forgive me, the peoples are once again poisoning us not without you and the Americans.

    What oh ... power do the Jews have! And what a mess of all the other nations, some cerebellum, and nothing more !? Maybe it’s worth developing the brain?
    And if there were no Jews, on whom to blame their own spinelessness?
    1. 0
      30 July 2014 08: 53
      And if there were no Jews, on whom to blame their own spinelessness?
      The Jews were, are and will be. In general, there are still Arabs. On them, as the next of kin, you can blame everything. smile
  30. +1
    30 July 2014 08: 02
    Stupidly PR article, he froze to pour from the empty to empty a hundred times muscled ... And then I picked up a picture, I would have put on a laurel wreath ...
  31. Dad Sasha
    -1
    30 July 2014 08: 45
    To bring peacekeepers into the territory of Ukraine means to follow the lead of the Pentagon and give a reason to unleash World War 3, this is understandable even to the ignorant. Does Mr. Okhlobystin call for this? Although it is not surprising: in his author's film "The Nightingale the Robber" Ivashka with a gang of henchmen-scumbags easily put a couple of hundred Russian soldiers, heroically chopping them down with a saber, and whoever he didn't chop, he burned alive. A person with such an imagination can afford to call on the country's leadership to take rash geopolitical actions. IMHO.
  32. +1
    30 July 2014 08: 50
    Quote: mamont5
    Quote: dima67
    He speaks correctly!


    Yes, it says it right. That's just to give the armed forces the status of peacekeepers, a UN mandate is needed. And without it, this operation will be considered occupation. And what is today's UN, we all have already seen.

    So Russia and so the occupier. Crimea, I recall, is considered an occupied territory. so that after the deployment of troops to the outskirts and in the Donbass, legally nothing will change. We’ll just free more territory and save more people.
  33. -2
    30 July 2014 09: 46
    Don't know: I was the only one obvious that the immediate introduction of the Russian peacemaking forces on Donbass - the only true solution to stop the bloodshed in peace cities of Novorossia, to save from total destruction 5 thousand Ukrainian "draftees" locked in "southern boiler" (although, after the recent barbaric bombing of Gorlovka difficult to find enough of mercy, but it is necessary if we still consider themselves Orthodox Christians), to suppress the emerging betrayal at the highest business echelons around the Kremlin (their homeland - the money, they will not regret it, and GDP including although he surely he understands), to prevent the final destruction of Ukraine (what was left of it, thanks to the talents of ukretelecom), the devastation of Europe (on the verge of the global economic crisis on fault shameless parasitizing on her world bankrupt America) and the civil dissent in Russia (it's clear that the fall of the new Russia will become overwhelming, the death blow t o the reliability of Russian patriots), and simple words to finally stop this bloody Sabbath, provoked by special services of the USA under incompetent leadership of the Obama administration and systematically leading to World war III?

    As for the answers fears that this step will provoke NATO on introduction of its troops in Ukraine, you should not worry - NATO is already there for a long time, the only objective of NATO is not salvation "Independent", and monitoring of turning it into a buffer zone of the conflict between the USA and Russia. In lifeless ground - pitted with craters of a desert.

    And not Imperial ambitions are guided by when I write these lines, and the arguments of common sense and the facts of what is happening.

    Now is a good time to normalize the situation. Will all the same, but with catastrophic losses for the whole world.
    1. 0
      30 July 2014 10: 13
      TRANSLATION: Don't know: I was the only obvious one that the immediate introduction of Russian peacekeeping is being forced on Donbass - the only solution of the truth to stop the bloodshed in the peaceful cities of Novorossia, in order to keep out of the 5 thousandth Ukrainian total destruction of "draftees" locked in the "southern cauldron" (although , after the last barbaric bombing of Gorlovka it is difficult to find enough mercy, but necessary if we still consider ourselves Orthodox Christians) to suppress the emerging betrayal in the uppermost business echelons around the Kremlin (their homeland is money, they will not regret it, and VAL.NATS.PRODUCT including although he undoubtedly understands), to prevent the final destruction of Ukraine (which was to the left of this, thanks to the talents of ukretelecom), the devastation of Europe (close to a global economic crisis in a defective shameless parasite in its world bankrupt America) and civil objection in Russia (it is clear that the fall of the newRussia will become an overwhelming, fatal blow to the reliability of Russian patriots), and simple words to finally stop this bloody Saturday caused by special US services under the incompetent leadership of the Obama administration and systematically leading to World War III?

      Regarding the answers, fears that this move will cause NATO to deploy its troops in Ukraine, you should not worry - NATO has been there for a long time, NATO's only goal is not to save the Independent, and to check if it turns into a buffer zone of conflict between the United States and Russia. On lifeless land - pitted with funnels of the desert.

      And not Imperial ambitions are directed when I write these lines, and the arguments of common sense and the facts of which occur.

      Now is a good time to normalize the situation. It will be nonetheless, but with catastrophic losses for the whole world.



      ......... sorry, but you are weak in RUSSIAN?, do not remind us of "mattresses", it makes you sick!
  34. 0
    30 July 2014 09: 47
    Will your hands be untied? And now their hands are not untied? If the Americans wanted to start a specific war, then without words they would have forced ukrov to destroy several villages of Russia that are close to the borders! After the third world, even a gang from the white house will not last long! Of course, it’s more visible from above, but if we have already chosen the option of supporting the Opolentsians with weapons and ammunition, then let's do our job in full force! Our position is certainly true in its own way, but you must admit, with a sweet heart.
  35. pahom54
    0
    30 July 2014 10: 00
    I respect Ivan, although he is sometimes somewhat exalted in his reasoning ...
    And although I am against the introduction of Russian troops into Novorossiya, however, as Okhlobystin said, “Now is the best time to normalize the situation. Then everything will be the same, but with catastrophic losses for the whole world..."
  36. 0
    30 July 2014 10: 05
    Quote: RusDV
    Yes, I know who will have the holiday - at Obama.
    It is NECESSARY to save New Russia. But to do this simply openly supporting her, transferring her weapons adequately to the airborne weapons, and providing a company to support the recruitment of volunteers, adequate to the mercenary personnel of the airborne forces, which would be more efficient and more honest. And most importantly - no troop deployment.
    - And an example of this will be the help of Spain in the 39th! I agree, you pop
    Ali to the point! Therefore, GDP acts correctly.
  37. 0
    30 July 2014 10: 37
    Quote: andj61
    Quote: mamont5
    Quote: dima67
    He speaks correctly!


    Yes, it says it right. That's just to give the armed forces the status of peacekeepers, a UN mandate is needed. And without it, this operation will be considered occupation. And what is today's UN, we all have already seen.

    Let this not be a peacekeeping mission, but a humanitarian one, call it the power supply of humanitarian corridors!


    Bone leadership does not think of this
  38. 0
    30 July 2014 10: 50
    OKBD, CIS, weapons, volunteers, an unmanned zone, pinpoint strikes in response to shelling of our territory. A lot of things could be done, but nothing is done at all. There will be no New Russia. Or one Lugansk and one Donetsk will remain from it. That will be New Russia. worse than Transnistria. and Ukraine will eat it in the end, not this year, but next. Neither will our turn come. And I have a feeling that Putin is at a loss. We don’t lose anything. We have long been aggressors, bombing Ukraine, supplying Novrossia with heavy weapons, soldiers. What to expect. Once again, to express concern ... We will soon not only in New Russia, but will not be respected anywhere. WE DO NOT RENT OURSELVES. RUSSIAN PROTECT. The whole world listened.
  39. Ghjynjyjoiiyr
    0
    30 July 2014 11: 06
    First we must recognize the LPR and the DPR
  40. 0
    30 July 2014 11: 10
    The UN headquarters must be moved to Moscow or Minsk !!!
    And the chairman will be put by the esteemed Lavrov or Churkin !!!
  41. 0
    30 July 2014 11: 24
    China's support is needed at a minimum. Moreover, if necessary, then the military. Support for Kazakhstan, Libya, and Iran will also be a plus.
    Ohlobystina always Respected! That is what a believer means!
  42. anikahanson
    0
    30 July 2014 11: 24
    I respect you very much ... Thank you for not being indifferent !!!! Thanks for the support!! But!!! You're not right!!!! You can not enter the troops !!! you can not let Russian boys under the knives !!! It is regrettable, but we must go through it .... You can better see the whole picture from the outside ... but we ... living here ... we see the smallest details ... We MUST go through this meat grinder ourselves .. We SHOULD understand who is right and who is to blame ... Everyone should feel at ease !!! This is the atonement that we must go through ... And salvation we must earn ... ourselves ...
    1. 0
      30 July 2014 11: 31
      Quote: anikahanson
      you can not let Russian boys under the knives !!!

      Russia has a lot of weapons that from the territory of Russia all "grief warriors" will drive away for the Dnieper. Only then was the ground operation. See how Israel is at war. And our army will be more serious. Yes, and today's generals are not fired from the 90s.
  43. 0
    30 July 2014 11: 37
    when it was in March they asked not to rush. Say, wait a while, they themselves announce 24 republics (regions of Ukraine) and we will see which is better in the composition.
    Harnessed for a long time to go faster. Then they got carried away by the Crimea ... and then everything. The movie is over.
    It is either by agreement that, apart from Crimea, we are not touching anything, either they were afraid of the opportunity, or decided to wait. Suddenly an overripe apple will fall itself ... and then the gardener came (more precisely, he was there but for the time being he did not care about the apple tree) ...
    boy, what are you doing at the apple tree?
  44. Vitalka
    0
    30 July 2014 12: 07
    save 5 Ukrainian “conscripts” trapped in the “Southern Cauldron” from total destruction

    If conscripts have their own heads, then let them step towards the Russian border. If there are no goals - and so the load is 200. This is war. Conscripts, not the National Guard, are also pounding on peaceful objects from howitzers (they simply don’t know how to jump, their business).
  45. 0
    30 July 2014 13: 25
    The predecessor of the UN League of Nations had the same goals as the current international organization. We were in it for more than 5 years, until the 39th year. Then we were expelled, as it was also completely controlled by forces hostile to the USSR. So what? Its main members, Great Britain, France, Italy and Japan, hiding behind her mandate, did everything as they saw fit, they spat on the opinions of other countries participating in the League.

    USSR leaving the League suffered? No.
    Stalin was on the drum of their opinion: he spent the Finnish War, annexed the Western territories from the Black to the Baltic Seas, defeated Germany and Japan.

    League of Nations prevented World War II? No.
    And although it lasted until the age of 46, it was of no use.

    The UN is now repeating the same thing that was already with the League of Nations.
    We are not going to leave the membership of the UN or suspend our participation in it.
    We must demand a mandate for the introduction of Russian peacekeeping forces into the territory of the East of Ukraine.

    In case of refusal to do the same at the country level BRICS. This is also an international organization. And with her mandate, if he is received to introduce peacekeepers, even with one Chinese, Indian, Brazilian and South African.

    If this doesn’t work out, then admit New Russia and at her request to introduce peacekeepers.

    We still will not be left alone. Having spent such amounts on fueling a conflict near the borders of Russia, the United States will not back down. After crushing and drowning Novorossia in the blood, they will set the Kiev junta on Crimea. And here there will already be not a peacekeeping mission, but a war.

    Time is running out. And there will be not a cold war, but a hot one!
  46. WEEK
    0
    30 July 2014 16: 19
    I fully agree. Without our decisive actions, things will only get worse.

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