US and EU sanctions against Russia: who benefits them?

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The events of recent days clearly indicate that the leadership of the United States and the European Union has chosen the path of further confrontation with respect to Russia. The introduction of sectoral sanctions against Russia is the largest geopolitical mistake of the West.

Yes, now the United States and Europe continue to press hard on Russia because of the events in the south-east of Ukraine, they are trying to recoup the annexation of the Crimea, they are trying to demonize the Russian leadership because of the incident with the downed Boeing, trying once again to make our country " evil empire "... But at the same time, the West does not understand the full extent of the actions committed. In the short term, the imposed sanctions may significantly complicate the position of Russia, but as for the long-term perspective, the European Union and the United States may be in a much more difficult position.

First of all, this concerns the energy sector, where dependence on Russia is greatest. The White House’s loud statements that oil prices may collapse to $ 50 per barrel and replaced by shale gas supply seem simply untenable. How can this be achieved? Who can compensate for the full supply of oil to the world market? Or will the United States decide to increase oil production on its own territory in order to cover not only its own needs, but also the needs of the European Union?

If the United States relies on Saudi Arabia’s assistance in this matter, then it seems that the Barack Obama administration has a very bad memory. After all, not so long ago, the White House administration managed to worsen relations with the ruling house of al-Saud on the Syrian issue in such a way that the Saudis simply can not go on about Washington. In addition, Iran, from which the economic sanctions have not yet been fully lifted, probably will not play by the rules of the United States. Then the most realistic scenario for events will be the global increase in oil prices within 150-200 $ per barrel. This, in turn, will affect the economic interests of China, India and the countries of Southeast Asia, which have been constantly increasing the volume of oil consumption for quite a long time.

In this situation, Russia will simply have to increase oil supplies to China and the countries of Southeast Asia. In addition, this should push our country to further develop relations with Iran, which is considering the possibility of supplying its oil to foreign markets through Russia. This should push the Russian leadership to speed up the process of creating an alternative oil exchange, which, along with Iranian oil, would also sell Russian oil, with mandatory withdrawal from the system of dollar settlements.

In addition, it is curious that, following the results of a fairly cold winter, the United States increased purchases of coal in Russia for the needs of its own fuel and energy complex. A quite reasonable question arises: does the administration of the White House give itself an account that after the introduction of new sanctions against Russia, it itself cuts the branch on which it sits? After all, Russia doesn’t cost anything to reduce or abandon these supplies at all by redirecting this flow to China

No less interesting events can occur in the gas market. And here the United States will not be able to oppose Russia. The United States and the European Union simply will not be able to cover their needs with either supplies of shale gas or the development of new deposits. This is especially true of the EU countries, which not only cannot develop deposits on their territory, which can lead to mass protests of the population of these countries, due to the threat of a real environmental catastrophe due to the existing methods of shale gas production, but they will not find other alternatives to Russia suppliers.

The construction of a trans-adriatic gas pipeline bypassing Russia, for the beginning of which the leaders in Brussels are fighting so well, will most likely remain in words, because the European Union has neither the means nor the time for this, since the next autumn-winter period is not far off . In addition, the new gas pipeline project is likely to be comprehended by the fate of the Nabucco project, which was widely advertised, and a considerable amount of money was invested in its construction, and ultimately it safely “sank into oblivion” ... So, if sectoral sanctions affect the supply of natural gas gas, then this winter, with a high degree of probability, we will witness how Europe will bear not only economic losses in the industrial sector, but also how people will slowly freeze, remembering their leadership with a kind word.

In addition, both the White House and Brussels should be well aware that the alleged sanctions threaten the participation of American and European companies in large-scale energy projects for the development of shelf deposits in Russia. In the event of an unfavorable development of events, our country may raise the question of curtailing cooperation in the framework of these projects and the possibility of nationalizing the financial resources invested in them by US and European companies.

Possible sanctions against Russia in the financial sector will become even more double-edged weapons. Yes, there is a real threat to Russia that it is difficult to borrow money from foreign markets, but at the same time there is a real chance to completely abandon payments in the dollar system and speed up the transition to settlements with other major players, such as China, India and others in national currencies.

In addition, it is necessary to speed up the process of withdrawing funds from the Fed’s securities and other assets in the West, while simultaneously pursuing a coordinated policy in this matter with such a major holder of US debt obligations like China.

At the same time, it is not worth paying full attention to the “wailing” of the oligarchs, who continue to advocate that Russia should remain part of the global financial system, but in fact they are more worried about the funds that they themselves have accumulated during the period of “dashing 90's” and other illegal ways. After all, the president has repeatedly said about the need to return the capital withdrawn from Russia back. If “Cypriot story”Taught the homegrown oligarchs nothing, then, accordingly, our state shouldn’t consider claims for their possible loss.

In addition, at the moment the president has a good chance to get rid of the “fifth column” in the government and his own administration in order to give a real chance to form a new team, whose main task should be work for the good of our country.

Thus, I would like to hope that common sense will prevail in the leadership of Western countries, especially those of the European Union, and there will be a rejection of both economic and political sanctions unfavorable to anyone. Otherwise, as they say, "who sows the wind, he will reap a storm ...."
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  1. +8
    30 July 2014 09: 16
    I would like to hear an opinion on this issue not of Mr. Terekhov, but of someone from the top leadership of the Russian Federation.
    1. +10
      30 July 2014 09: 20
      The head of the Austrian Chamber of Economics, Christoph Leitl, predicts a drop in exports by 20 percent and a sharp decline in tourism. A strong blow to the banking system is also expected.

      "Taking into account the current sanctions, we expect a 20 percent drop in exports compared to last year; in tourism, a sharp drop in the number of Russian guests is also very strongly felt," Leitl said in an interview.

      Leitl is one of the opponents of increased sanctions against the Russian Federation, however, today he confirmed that Austrian businessmen will support any measures taken by the UN, EU or local legislators. "I'm still against sanctions, but if politicians decide differently, then of course we have to follow it," Leitl said.

      Analysts also believe that most of the EU banks, sanctions will hit Austrian banks, especially Raiffeisen.

      RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/world/20140730/1018089892.html#ixzz38vU1hNNZ

      And it seems to be with Russia here! Yes
      1. MBA78
        +9
        30 July 2014 09: 45
        activity in the sun is zero ... this suggests that winter will be cold ... and the next winters will also be colder ... the ice age is just around the corner
        1. +7
          30 July 2014 12: 09
          Quote: MBA78
          activity in the sun is zero ... this suggests that winter will be cold ... and the next winters will also be colder ... the ice age is just around the corner

          May General Frost help us!
      2. +2
        30 July 2014 11: 45
        so we are waiting for the winter, we do not panic, and we don’t give the junta the descent.
        We invite the simple people of Europe to warm up and enjoy hot food. We do not let the top of the EU under any pretext, and so on.
        1. -4
          30 July 2014 13: 30
          Quote: Moment
          We invite the simple people of Europe to warm up and taste hot food
          The official Rosstat is posting the data to you. It may brighten up in my head and stupid comments will not be written. Clickable.
          1. bif
            +2
            30 July 2014 13: 39
            Quote: baltika-18
            The official Rosstat is posting the data to you.

            1. You can link to the original.
            2. doesn’t it seem a little silly for you to compare the prices of December and June: a) DIFFERENT prices of vegetables in summer and winter, other seasonal products, especially in the Russian Federation b) from the point of view of statistics, changes in a year and under the same conditions - the same month. (example, December 2013 and December 2014)
            1. -2
              30 July 2014 17: 01
              No problem .www.gks.ru HELP. On consumer price growth indices in Russia and foreign countries in June 2014.
              Quote: bif
              don't you find it somewhat silly to compare December and June prices:
              And what claims to me? Present to Rosstat.
    2. +4
      30 July 2014 10: 44
      It would be time for Russia to voice its retaliatory measures, otherwise they will spit in our faces, and we are just doing how to wipe ourselves, which is not good.
      1. +6
        30 July 2014 10: 58
        I believe Putin has something to answer, and this is far from a spit in the direction of the EU and the FSA, but much more! As we say: gentlemen from across the ocean, and are not afraid that bestowal is tormenting ?! I’m not saying that everything will be wonderful with us, but we will survive it, our people didn’t endure it, but what will you do with your population when it starts to freeze ?! Or does the West really believe in shale gas supplies from the USA and Canada ?! Nude, blessed is he who believes ...!
        1. -5
          30 July 2014 13: 35
          Quote: Varyag_1973
          It’s time for Russia to voice its response,

          Quote: Varyag_1973
          I think Putin has something to answer,
          With this system, there is absolutely nothing to answer him. If only in language. But there is an excellent answer. Nationalization, but it will be necessary to close the country, change the system. Will Putin do this? Yes, of course not. The rest is idle talk.
          1. -3
            30 July 2014 17: 08
            I’ll add. Here you are, damn it, and Putin’s integration into the world economy. You think you will pay Sechin with your friends. You’ve guessed the hell. People will again.
      2. +1
        30 July 2014 11: 14
        And what to answer? They dig their own grave, why else should they help. Sanctions hit in both directions
        1. +8
          30 July 2014 11: 35
          Quote: demon184
          And what to answer? They dig their own grave, why else should they help. Sanctions hit in both directions


          No need to answer anything. Russia has a chance to change for the better, get down
          with an oil and gas needle and engage in society, industry, science

          I understand that this is a utopia, but I would reduce or completely abandon hamburgers and American films (if not all, but the bulk of stupid blockbusters)
      3. 0
        30 July 2014 13: 03
        Nothing of the kind, no one is wiping off, because doesn’t reach, they spit after all against the wind !!!
      4. koshh
        +1
        30 July 2014 20: 56
        Quote: Thought Giant
        It’s time for Russia to voice its response,


        I believe that the imposition of sanctions against Russia is our chance for a leap in the economic development of the country, a chance to become a world leader. If we do not use it, then we will lose everything.
    3. Marisat
      0
      30 July 2014 11: 34
      Yesterday and today I listened, and understood only one thing: the fifth column is strong.
      I was amused by what they began to threaten the West with: It is necessary to ease the tax burden on domestic producers. Type we have long been offering, because this will help domestic industry out of the recession, but the Cabinet does not miss these initiatives. I wonder who it is so they threaten?
      1. 0
        30 July 2014 13: 26
        with shale gas in Ukraine, a bolt is also brewing ... http: //vg-news.ru/n/110341
    4. The comment was deleted.
  2. Andskobka
    +4
    30 July 2014 09: 17
    There is an adequate response to sanctions, only Europe and Pindostan will clearly not like it. smile
    1. +9
      30 July 2014 09: 45
      oh they don't like our sanctions
  3. +4
    30 July 2014 09: 17
    Everything is just like an orange .... "And what should we do?" (C)
    1. MBA78
      +7
      30 July 2014 09: 54
      accept the Blessing from America and start working.
    2. Vik.Tor
      +1
      30 July 2014 09: 55
      These are the thoughts that roam in the minds of our officials, what should I do?
    3. 0
      30 July 2014 13: 05
      Earn money !!! Do not work, namely EARN !!!
  4. RUSLAT
    +9
    30 July 2014 09: 20
    The sanctions are designed only to intimidate the “elite.” The “elite” will begin to put pressure on the president and he will surrender. But Obama is used to playing with one goal, never receiving retaliatory sanctions! Therefore, there is a lot of noise and little action. While Russia quietly and politically introduces sanctions against the West, and these sanctions hit the pockets of European businessmen very hard. Dissatisfaction with Merkel's rule is growing every day ... and it's not autumn yet ...
    1. +8
      30 July 2014 09: 25
      Quote: RUSLAT
      The “elite” will begin to put pressure on the president and he will surrender.

      They are already "pressured", they have already dragged money from London City to their homes, oligarchy it is, it loves peace! The inflow of investments is already over 90 lard and continues to grow!
      1. Scorpio
        +6
        30 July 2014 09: 39
        I hope the president will rigidly send the oligarchs in three letters. You have to think about the house! And if real estate is being bought in London, then at the same time let them buy a couple of newspapers and TV channels and PR our ideas and values!
  5. +5
    30 July 2014 09: 23
    Correct article, the author accurately noted "the process of withdrawing funds from the Fed's securities and other assets in the West should be accelerated." How much can you finance someone else's economy.
    It is time to take up the development, not in words but in deed, of agriculture, aircraft manufacturing, the construction of normal roads. A lot of things can be done with money lying in Western funds.
  6. +7
    30 July 2014 09: 29
    In addition, at the moment the president has a good chance to get rid of the “fifth column” in the government and his own administration in order to give a real chance to form a new team, whose main task should be work for the good of our country.
    - this is what I like the most. maybe there will already be an opportunity to work as servants of the people and not receive dividends from trade? maybe it’s time to finally revive our own production, which was overwhelmed due to economic inexpediency (under capitalism, "quick money" is needed and production pays off in 7-10 years at best)
  7. +10
    30 July 2014 09: 30
    I made one conclusion for myself after the collapse of the USSR. The mistake of the USSR was total control over information, people were not informed about the outside world without Soviet filters, there was no TRUTH. And the people with a calm soul let this state be broken in exchange for freedom of information. The West has not changed at all, it has always pursued a colonial policy,
    ... trying once again to make “an evil empire” out of our country ... But at the same time, the West does not understand at all the fullness of the actions taken.

    we just began to notice it just now. And they all understand, just their methods are outdated, and we are smarter.
  8. +3
    30 July 2014 09: 34
    Che survived in the 90s and now these ghouls will not break us angry
    1. MBA78
      +1
      30 July 2014 10: 16
      they are now in an euphoric flight ... this historically euphoric flight took place due to strong acceleration and tripping over the cornerstone ... a stunning fall is inevitable
  9. Scorpio
    0
    30 July 2014 09: 37
    I think sanctions are a good opportunity for us. There is a lot of money in the Russian Federation, half of the budgets are stolen and taken to the west - this channel is blocked. By saving money (controlling theft), you can tighten the economy. And in order not to be familiar, it is necessary to impose retaliatory sanctions. Not a ban on entry into the country, those who were not going to visit us. And limiting the supply of oil and gas, a ban on the export of rare metals, a ban on the export of weapons to the EU and the United States (including rocket engines). Further - through the court, an appeal against the transfer of territories in the Pacific to the United States (thanks to Yeltsin and Shevardnadze). Asia sleeps and sees how to arrange the goat face of the US and the EU. Even if they do not support us explicitly, they will help indirectly! Six months (especially in winter) of effective sanctions - and the EU comes to visit the northern fur animal, and the US financial system is no longer bursting, but bursting. Note that everyone is still successfully solving their problems - the United States exports economic instability to the Russian Federation, Ukraine and Asia, South America. The EU exports a decline in production (through lobbies, sanctions and "aid" to developing countries), Ukraine exports us a political collapse - trying to blame the Russian Federation for all the problems, blaming all its troubles on us. And thanks to deafening propaganda, their local inhabitants begin to believe that the US economy is on the rise, EU production is growing, and Ukraine has a new good government. It's time for us to stop chewing on snot and mirror all their sores to them!
    1. 0
      30 July 2014 10: 59
      Quote: Scorpio
      restriction of oil and gas supplies,

      it is more economically feasible to sell the finished product - fuels and lubricants and purified gas, because we will process it.
    2. 0
      30 July 2014 11: 26
      Do not wishful thinking, live reality
      Quote: Scorpio
      Asia sleeps and sees how to arrange the goat face of the US and the EU.

      China has the largest market in the United States, it is unlikely they dream of losing it

      Quote: Scorpio
      EU - exports decline in production

      It’s such a decline that electrical products are Siemens and Schneider-electrics, electric locomotives from the same Siemens, not to mention automobile manufacturing and machine tools
  10. pahom54
    +3
    30 July 2014 09: 38
    I just saw a wonderful key phrase in an article: "The process of withdrawing funds from the Fed's securities and other assets in the West should be accelerated, while simultaneously pursuing a coordinated policy on this issue with such a large holder of US debt obligations as China." ...
    Well, it’s impossible to hope that there is nothing to replace our raw materials in the European market, because they will find a replacement for him in 2-3 years, and Russia already needs to change its fulcrum ... What is it doing now, in my opinion, and thank God...
    Well, the fact that the need for industrialization of the whole country and development of technologies is indisputable is not only in the spirit of Chubais nanotechnologies, but real, necessary, necessary production technologies ...
  11. +2
    30 July 2014 09: 42
    We will wait a bit and these mongrel dogs of the EU will soon return to us with a nod, but it will be necessary to put them in such frames (poses) so that they would forever forget their puppeteers.
  12. Scorpio
    +1
    30 July 2014 09: 43
    By the way, regarding tourism - in our country there are so many great places where so far everything is kept on enthusiasm. They don’t even need investments there - a little information in accessible places - and the flow of tourists (local) will provide investments. It is more important for the state not so much to help this - how not to interfere - to simplify the tax system. Do not raise VAT, but notice it completely on sales tax at a rate of 12-15%. Simplify tax administration.
    I hope that these sanctions will be a good kick to officials under the seat!
  13. death door
    +1
    30 July 2014 09: 47
    So far, adequate action on the part of our leadership is not visible. But there is a statement by Lavrov: we will not stoop to their level, it is unworthy of a major power!
    Oh how. Us e..t, and we are getting stronger!
  14. +1
    30 July 2014 09: 48
    Well, along the west, the plug is bad in any case.
    1. MBA78
      0
      30 July 2014 10: 25
      what is good for the west for Russia
  15. +2
    30 July 2014 09: 51
    Quote: larand
    I would like to hear an opinion on this issue not of Mr. Terekhov, but of someone from the top leadership of the Russian Federation.

    And what Medvedev will say with his team, he is an ardent supporter of Russia merging with the global financial system, now it seems to me that if Medvedev were the president, he would hardly have decided to return Crimea, or would have gone back five he is a liberal steel rod and a liberal in Africa.
    But as for Putin, Glazyev, Rogozin and several dozen people there understand that Russia has a chance to become less dependent on the Western financial system.
    There is a blessing in disguise, I consider sanctions a blessing for our country; there is no better scenario for events to start pursuing a new economic policy (NEP) in our country and also starting a new large-scale industrialization of the country.
    1. 0
      30 July 2014 11: 32
      Quote: leks
      start pursuing a new economic policy (NEP) as well as start a new large-scale industrialization of the country.

      The NEP arose because the state could not provide itself with everything necessary at the time, and therefore private capital was allowed, how do you see the new NEP in the light of the fact that the overwhelming presence of private capital is now? Large-scale industrialization should imply a sales market, not industrialization for the sake of industrialization, if it is good, only the trouble has been heard lately, then at Deripaska four aluminum plants are stopped due to lack of sales, then Mechel is now bankrupt, and this is a huge complex enterprises. Earlier in the USSR, enterprises such as hardware, light industry, and the food industry were developed locally, now all this is enlarged and purchased abroad.
  16. +3
    30 July 2014 09: 55
    “So, if sectoral sanctions affect the supply of natural gas, then this winter with a high degree of probability we will witness how Europe will suffer not only economic losses in the industrial sector, but also how the population will slowly freeze, remembering its leadership with a kind word. "

    Most likely, Obama promised Merkel, among other things, that Russia will be squeezed in the winter and that Putin will have to give up with or without Russians. So there is only one way out - to hold on and hold against all provocations, against all sanctions and ... whoever will be blown away before.
    1. zzz
      zzz
      +1
      30 July 2014 10: 33
      Quote: mamont5
      Most likely, Obama promised Merkel, among other things, that Russia will be squeezed in the winter and that Putin will have to give up with or without Russians. So there is only one way out - to hold on and hold against all provocations, against all sanctions and ... whoever will be blown away before.

      You’ll get a hole from a donut, not Sharapova!
  17. Victoria 1980
    -4
    30 July 2014 10: 17
    Common sense must be appealed not to the west but to the Russian leadership. We surrendered Ukraine with giblets, and we received the sanctions for which we were allowed to pour blood in Ukraine.
    Worse decisions were hard to come up with. I have the impression that his Western puppeteers ordered Putin to surrender Russia, Ukraine and all national interests, otherwise a terrible punishment will follow. Probably an ultimatum was announced to him: either he does as he is told, or the end of his power is inevitable. Because what Russia is doing now does not lend itself to comprehension and common sense. All progressive laws have been successfully blocked inside Russia: anti-offshore law, taxes are raised again to completely stifle economic growth. Oh yes, I forgot, this is all the evil fifth column, and Putin is white and fluffy, he is for Russia, and he can’t influence the column, this is our helpless president. Of course, it is necessary that the daughters themselves know whom, it was calm in the Netherlands, for this you can put a couple of thousand Donbass and Luhansk residents.
  18. 0
    30 July 2014 10: 38
    The article is competent, any adequate person will notice this. But the US and the EU are not adequate, they are worse laughing
  19. +1
    30 July 2014 10: 55
    No less interesting events can occur in the gas market. And here the United States will not be able to oppose Russia. The US and the European Union simply cannot cover their needs with shale gas supplies,

    In addition, it is curious that, following a fairly cold winter, the United States increased its purchases of coal in Russia for the needs of its own fuel and energy complex.

    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/305/ojjl851.jpg
  20. 0
    30 July 2014 11: 00
    With unfavorable developments, our country can raise the question of curtailing cooperation in the framework of these projects and the possibility of nationalizing the funds invested in them by US and European Union companies.


    It cannot, but REQUIRED.
  21. 0
    30 July 2014 11: 11
    I do not think that the EU does not know what it is doing. They JUST SURE that Russia will not respond to sanctions or do it inarticulate. And then we should give a fuck! .. They would get the effect of surprise for sure. angry wassat
    And about the article +
    A good article, especially for us, so as not to worry.
    1. 0
      30 July 2014 13: 23
      Quote: nahalenok911
      They JUST SURE that Russia will not respond to sanctions or do it inarticulate.

      They all see very well, not Russia began the first, because of this they are pissing, they will have a law on their side, nothing is written in the law about sanctions, they will have to pay extra for violating contracts wink
  22. 0
    30 July 2014 11: 24
    Clowns from the EU and America do not decide anything and sit down with them at the negotiating table is pointless. We must wait for the key decisions of the world behind the scenes. Apparently, the moment of truth has not yet arrived. But the truth is that the West decided to set Russia on the path of Libya. But by removing the GDP, they will also be forced to destroy half of the country's population.
  23. 0
    30 July 2014 11: 44
    Quote: Max Otto
    I made one conclusion for myself after the collapse of the USSR. The mistake of the USSR was total control over information, people were not informed about the outside world without Soviet filters, there was no TRUTH. And the people with a calm soul let this state be broken in exchange for freedom of information. ...

    Nm as I can not agree with this statement. It was about foreign affairs in the USSR that they wrote the TRUTH. "International imperialism", "American military clique", "crimes of capitalism", etc. the stamps of those times were a little fed up then. But now it became clear how much they corresponded to reality. The problems in the Soviet press were precisely with the coverage of INTERNAL problems. They were, and considerable. And people ran into them every hour, but the press was broadcasting according to the principle "everything is fine, beautiful marquise." We read one thing, saw another. But there was still more good, IMHO ... And our press had to learn from the bourgeois some things, in particular, the efficiency of coverage of events. Although it is possible that the journalists were ready, but until the critical moments are agreed on at all levels, the news has already had time to go bad.
    1. -2
      30 July 2014 12: 09
      Information to the Soviet citizen was to one place, the main thing was imported sausage and clothes
      1. 0
        30 July 2014 15: 08
        Quote: saag
        Information to the Soviet citizen was to one place, the main thing was imported sausage and clothes

        For once I agree with you.
        Let this not apply to all Soviet citizens. But half, that's for sure. Moreover, newspapers were read selectively (mainly the last pages). And in the Vremya program, everyone was interested in the ending, which included sports news and a weather forecast.
        The problems in the Soviet press were precisely with the coverage of INTERNAL problems.
        It depends on what is considered a problem. For some it was a war in the Middle East. For some, the lack of beer on sale. And for someone, both.
  24. Marisat
    0
    30 July 2014 12: 19
    I went and read the full list of physical. persons sanctioned. And the question arose: What interferes with this particular person: Director of the Federal Drug Control Service Viktor Ivanov?
    link to the list http://ria.ru/politics/20140718/1016514535.html#2
  25. 0
    30 July 2014 12: 32
    The monkey today blurted out in plain text, for which all this was conceived. It’s necessary to goofing off like that ...
  26. sxn278619
    0
    30 July 2014 12: 53
    And what is the use of sanctions?
    http://worldcrisis.ru/crisis/1590752
  27. 0
    30 July 2014 12: 55
    Eh. Deal with the 5th column! Then you can sit out the sanctions.
    1. 0
      30 July 2014 14: 44
      Quote: Rods
      Eh. Deal with the 5th column!

      It depends on whom to consider the 5th column.
      Zyuganov's supporters have one opinion on this score, Putin's supporters have another, the Natsiks have a third, and the liberals have a fourth. Russian society is not homogeneous in an ideological sense. And if supporters of one party call for reprisals against dissidents, then they are precisely the "fifth column". It is them that must be crushed without any mercy in the first place. Like cockroaches. Because for Russia the worst thing now is internal squabbles. Whoever is for them is either an enemy of Russia or a fool.
  28. 0
    30 July 2014 13: 02
    Otherwise, as they say, “he who sows the wind will reap the storm ....”
    They will reap, as soon as they reap. The process has gone, the sunset is stable (meaning the sunset of Europe)
  29. mihasik
    0
    30 July 2014 13: 10
    Polish authorities supported sanctions against a number of sectors of the Russian economy.
    Since August 1, Russia has introduced a ban on the supply of almost all types of fruits and vegetables from Poland. A few days earlier it became known about the ban on the import of Ukrainian dairy products into Russia.


    Question: In order for Rosselkhoznadzor to start working, do you need to impose sanctions against Russia? No other way?
  30. +1
    30 July 2014 13: 31
    Yes, now the USA and Europe continue to press hard on Russia because of the events in the south-east of Ukraine, they are trying to win back for the annexation of Crimea, they are trying to demonize the Russian leadership because of the incident with the downed Boeing, trying once again to make our country " the evil empire "...

    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/505/bgsu595.jpg
    1. +1
      30 July 2014 13: 59
      quote-The introduction of sectoral sanctions against Russia is the largest geopolitical mistake of the West.
  31. 0
    30 July 2014 14: 08
    Since the imposition of sanctions without a UN decision is contrary to international law, it would be good to train sanctioners.
    1. To declare that for those who join the sanctions, prices for Russian energy carriers increase by 2 times to compensate for losses. For not joined prices are the same. (It is now clear that the WTO is a fiction. Ordinary collusion of speculators)
    2. As soon as they are reoriented to other suppliers, to bring energy carriers to the market at dumping prices.
    3. Start this winter.
    4. Since the economy is based on greed, look at the carriers of universal values.
  32. 0
    30 July 2014 14: 10
    Sanctions against Russia are beneficial only to the United States, because Europe is at a loss. Voluntarily, the Europeans will never go to them. Only under US pressure.
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    But it is foolish and naive to expect the Europeans to come to their senses. They voluntarily renounced most of their sovereignty in favor of the United States. First of all, because of considerations of geopolitics. Therefore, they are more likely to go to great losses, but will not refuse to obey the Americans. For the same reason, only a person who is deeply shell-shocked and seriously wounded in the head can believe in the "Beijing-Moscow-Berlin axis." I constantly come across this nonsense. Who is its author? The German elite would rather hang themselves than refuse cooperation with the United States in favor of Russia. The Germans are still Russophobes. I assure you (I know them and have been to Germany more than once), they are more Russophobes than the Anglo-Saxons. And it is no coincidence that we were on opposite sides in two world wars. A military alliance is still possible with the Americans (it happened more than once in the 20th century), but never with the Germans. And those who do not understand this are surprising.
  33. +2
    30 July 2014 14: 17
    Unfortunately, some people still do not understand that the so-called "sanctions" are serious and forever. Some people think that the West will “come to its senses” when it calculates its losses, etc. And do not hope for it. They want to "put Russia in its place" once and for all and will go to the end for this. No one will ever reckon with financial losses in the West when it comes to politics and especially the destruction of such a hated country for them as Russia. Unfortunately, many here have no idea what is going on in the West and what is the rhetoric about Russia in reality. They are guided here by our information from our media about certain "splits", "differences of views", etc. It is not true that the EU acts as a united front against Russia and Russia in all, without exception, Western media is an aggressor, an "evil empire" striving to swallow everything "defenseless" encirclement from neighboring countries, and then the whole of Europe, etc. Moreover, "aggression" means any contacts between Russia and the West - trade, humanitarian, etc. And everyone calls to get rid of ANY relations with Russia once and for all. Moreover, this getting rid of relations with Russia is presented precisely as getting rid of the tyrant who has been exploiting the "unfortunate" Europeans with their gas prices, etc. And finally it's time to get rid of this, finally "it's time to get complete economic freedom from "accursed" Russia "! And the fact that you have to pay for this "freedom" does not scare anyone, there is even a slogan circulated by all Western media: "Freedom is worth money! You have to pay for freedom!" So, do not flatter yourself about the fact that someone there will "change their minds", "change their minds", "cancel", etc. All - "the train left" - the USA with satellites, the EU, Qatar, Saudi Arabia - they decided to throw Russia out altogether from the European market and isolate politically forever and it will be done.
    1. +2
      30 July 2014 14: 33
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      No one will ever reckon with financial losses in the West when it comes to politics and especially the destruction of such a country that they hate for them, like Russia.

      Absolutely right.
      And only fools think that it is possible to split the West, to oppose the "lost" Europe to the "evil" America. All of them are smeared with one world. Yes, Europe has closer ties with Russia than the United States. But not at all because Europeans are better than Amers. But because they are geographically closer. The English, French and German elites hate Russia as much as the American one. And everything is decided by the elite, not the people.
  34. 0
    30 July 2014 15: 00
    Quote: Scorpio
    I hope the president will rigidly send the oligarchs in three letters. You have to think about the house! And if real estate is being bought in London, then at the same time let them buy a couple of newspapers and TV channels and PR our ideas and values!

    Better to buy a place in the cemetery there for yourself, while they were still with them.
    1. 0
      30 July 2014 15: 11
      Quote: spiriolla-xnumx
      Quote: Scorpio
      I hope the president will rigidly send the oligarchs in three letters. You have to think about the house! And if real estate is being bought in London, then at the same time let them buy a couple of newspapers and TV channels and PR our ideas and values!

      Better to buy a place in the cemetery there for yourself, while they were still with them.

      Putin’s retaliatory move: The West gives the widest publicity to the sanctions that have already been introduced and which are still only thinking of establishing against Russia. He is trying to scare them not only Russia, but also those countries that are beginning to show disobedience.

      Certainly, the West is trying to squeeze out not only the harm to Russia from sanctions, but also its own benefit. However, what does Putin think or do in connection with these gifts from Western partners? We do not see or hear this anywhere, but does this mean that Putin is inactive? Of course no. In addition, his actions are much more accurate and painful. The West understands this, but cannot do anything about it.
  35. +1
    30 July 2014 15: 11
    First, what is happening. There is no point in talking about sanctions that have already been announced and are just about to announce. It makes sense to talk about where this will lead. The calculation of Western analysts is such that sanctions will clamp down on all close associates, and they will begin to whisper to Putin so that he backs away from Ukraine. This is real nonsense. Someone from these patients, analysts thought to their full head, that with its sanctions against these people, the West itself shoved these people back - into Putin's arms? Now these people have only one way - hand in hand with Putin. Only Putin can secure their future. The West has already spoken, and the oligarchs will no longer believe it. They cannot risk their money, leaving them in the West and watch with fear - are there any sanctions being prepared again. Of course, the West has lost confidence, and now the oligarchs are looking for other ways to save money and grow their business. Think of the BRICS Bank instead of the IMF. But this is a real bank, which will be inaccessible to the United States and the money will be there as in a pharmacy. With Russian government guarantees, this is enough to live in peace. According to information reaching us, the Russian oligarchs with the greatest caution, practically on tiptoe, today withdraw "money" from foggy Albion. So far, Britain does not feel it. It will certainly become famous, but it will be too late. In Russia, everything looks like a special operation and Russian sanctions, and Russian business abroad. This is a matter of great respect. This flexible organization of influence, not direct, but even indirect, leading to the necessary results, suggests that the hope that Putin’s circle will suddenly rebel against him has no basis. Putin is able to achieve a result; he can influence the situation, even through several chain links. This man, the West is trying to crush today through the elite controlled by him. Of course, this is Sisyphean labor.
  36. 0
    30 July 2014 15: 12
    Please note that the West itself imposes sanctions with reservations. This means only one thing - there will be no sanctions, even if they are announced. Do you think the West is worried about Russia here? The West, trembling in the knees, is afraid that its own businessmen will start dragging it by a forelock. This is not some kind of variable forecast, whether they will or not. This is an absolute near-term prospect. In one of the articles we previously described in detail how Putin does this to influence Western parties in various countries. But that is far from all. There are many more different ways, but today we are talking about Putin’s answer in a slightly different way. Let's denote the vector. The West puts pressure on Putin, and Putin puts pressure on Ukraine, without explaining the reasons. A day does not pass so that Rospotrebnadzor does not take care of one or another type of product from Ukraine.
  37. +1
    30 July 2014 15: 12
    But doesn't that look low? Well, judge for yourselves, Russia is afraid to respond with sanctions to the West and can only strangle Ukraine, right? No, not so dear Russians. Putin is crushing sanctions not because he is afraid of someone, but because Russia has problems with the Ukrainian government, which has decided to join NATO, with the government, which is killing its people. Well, sanctions are against him. As for sanctions against the West, then Putin can easily mature for this. Everyone has already heard about the McDonald's trial in Nizhny. This Putin gave easily to Obama's ear. But again, Russia's main questions are precisely with the Ukrainian government. The West is trying to partially drive Russia away from Ukraine. But this will not work, if only because even if it had been possible to drive Russia away from Ukraine, it would only worsen the situation. After all, Ukraine can receive money only from Russia, or rather, from the sale of Ukrainian goods in Russia. On the one hand, the West wants Russia to raise Ukraine from economic ruins through trade and foreign exchange earnings, and on the other hand, forces Russia to close its market for Ukrainian goods.
  38. +2
    30 July 2014 15: 13
    This means only one thing, that the sanctions against Russia in order to give Ukraine the opportunity to make money in the Russian market do not work and will not work. Putin will continue to push the Ukrainian economy into a ditch like a bulldozer. Poroshenko still seemed that, as Comrade Bender said, “The West will help us,” but the results suggest otherwise. The West cannot help, because Ukraine needs to give money, which is immediately pulled away by business officials. Even those funds that are allocated for the war are in the pockets of Kolomoisky. Thus, confirming the old truth - war is for some, and mother is close to someone.

    The effectiveness of Putin’s sanctions against Ukraine is higher because the Ukrainian economy is much weaker. But let no one around relax. Each country will rake its portion of individual “sanctions from Vladimir Putin,” (sounds like haute couture clothing). But it will be invisible as always, well, the Russian president does not like publicity and wit. He loves the work done. Look at what indicators Europe will finish the year 2014, and everything will become clear to you. If governments agree to sanctions, then there will not be so many who want to bomb or impose sanctions in power. These are the side effects of Russian sanctions. Quiet and inconspicuous. Agree, silent death, it is death anyway. And the Russian president will certainly add mystery.
  39. +4
    30 July 2014 15: 15
    There is a psychological moment for Western business. Russia does not announce any sanctions and Western businessmen who are losing on Western sanctions know exactly who is to blame. If Russia responded with sanctions, some Dutch businessmen would curse Putin. After all, if you shake your government like a pear, then sanctions against Russia can be postponed and even canceled. But if Putin, for his part, imposed sanctions, then part of the responsibility for sanctions against Western business would fall on Russia. Now that won't happen. Everyone knows that if the West lifts the sanctions, it will be possible to earn money in Russia again. This means that European leaders need to be bludgeoned with rolling pins and pans until they come to the understanding that the West should shove its ambitions far, deep and low. The elections will show very quickly what the citizens of the European Union want. No matter how strange it may seem, new sanctions against Europe will be introduced by Putin very quietly and will stifle each country individually like a python - with each exhalation, so it will not be possible to inhale the same volume. Have you ever seen the eyes of a python when it strangles its prey? They are exactly the same as when he smiles, if pythons smile at all. This is probably correct, because the main thing is business. It should be noted that Putin will strangle the West with the help of the same oligarchs who, it seems to the West, will now press Putin. Realistic, given the "former" profession of VVP. People have always worked there without noise and dust. hi
  40. +1
    30 July 2014 15: 16
    There will be no Polish fruits and vegetables in Russia

    Since August 1, Russia has introduced a ban on the supply of almost all types of vegetables and fruits from Poland. am
  41. 0
    30 July 2014 16: 15
    Quote: baltika-18
    The official Rosstat is posting the data to you.

    The picture is provocative! The price index on the chart is indicated specially overestimated graphically, but looking at the numbers, we see that the difference in% for most positions is NO MORE than 10%!
  42. +1
    30 July 2014 17: 42
    I was in the store today. I look, there are Polish apples at 49 rubles. Neglected, bought apples from our new strategic partner, Argentinean. And on TV they said that ours found a lot of lice, fleas, etc. cockroaches in Polish vegetables and therefore completely stopped buying vegetables / fruits from Poland. And this is neither more nor less - 1 billion ...

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