According to the United States, the Russian Federation violated the Treaty on the Elimination of Medium and Short Range Missiles

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Washington said that Moscow had violated the Treaty on the Elimination of Intermediate-Range and Shorter-Range Missiles (INF) by testing ground-based cruise missiles (CRNB). Reports about it RIA "News" with reference to the newspaper New York Times.

According to the United States, the Russian Federation violated the Treaty on the Elimination of Medium and Short Range Missiles


According to a high-ranking source in the US administration, Russia was notified of this by a special letter sent on Monday.

It is also noted that in the near future, the US State Department will publish an official statement with accusations against Russia, included in the annual report on international compliance with arms control agreements.

"The United States found that the Russian Federation violated obligations under the INF Treaty not to test, not to produce and not to deploy CRRN (ground-based cruise missiles) with a range of 500 kilometers to 5,5 thousands of kilometers," - quotes from the newspaper report.

Earlier, the New York Times stated that the test of a new cruise missile, conducted by Russia in 2008, could be, in the opinion of the United States, a violation of the INF Treaty. State Department spokesman Jen Psaki noted that Washington raised the issue of a possible breach of the contract in negotiations with Moscow, but did not conclude that it really took place. Then Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov declined to comment on this publication.

In accordance with the INF Treaty, the parties committed themselves not to produce, not to test and deploy ballistic and ground-based cruise missiles of medium (1000-5500 km) and shorter (500-1000 km) range. They also had to destroy all launchers and ground-based missiles within three years.
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  1. +92
    29 July 2014 10: 26
    And further it is necessary to violate) in the conditions of the compression ring only arm. And no need to look back. Won North Korea, builds its missiles, tests, builds power. Yes, all around screaming that the villains, so what? They will yell anyway. I believe that the answer should always be an order of magnitude greater than the damage done. For an eye, you need to take not only an eye, but also break your ears and legs.
    1. +28
      29 July 2014 10: 29
      They themselves violate. Now otmazon looking like with a Boeing. am
      1. +22
        29 July 2014 11: 26
        The United States with its "missile defense" is laying around Russia from all sides, which means we have violated the treaty.
        17 September 2009, Obama said that now the main bet is on the mobile missile defense system, deployed in the Mediterranean, Baltic and Black Seas and in several European countries.
        Thus, the distances to Moscow were even further reduced - the flight time of the SM-3 missiles of the mobile missile defense system is even less than that of the GBI "interceptors". Already now, when deployed at the Manas base (Bishkek), SM-3 Block IB anti-missiles are available: Magnitogorsk (target 4 - 1.639 km), Perm (target 5 - 2.111 km), Yekaterinburg (target 11 - 1.841 km), Omsk (target 1 - 1.348 km), Urengoy (target 7 - 2.578 km), Khanty-Mansiysk (target 12 - 2.050 km), Novokuznetsk (target 9 - 1.518 km), Andjero-Sudzhensk (target 10 - 1.679 km), Bratsk ( target 8 - 2.418 km), Irkutsk (target 2 - 2.440 km)

        Please tell me what is it called? This is the very base that supposedly was closed this month, and which is used for air transportation of passengers and cargo to and from Afghanistan (on military transport aircraft C-17) and refueling in the air (tankers KC-135) in the sky over Afghanistan . Why are they taking it over there? The authorities of Kyrgyzstan do not have permission to inspect the country imported from the United States. Everything functions under embassy status. There is also the right to shoot to kill.

        more details can be read here
        http://topwar.ru/41730-pro-pro.html - Про «ПРО»
        1. +10
          29 July 2014 12: 21
          Double standards will not pass stop angry ! What we want, we will violate, and the fact that this is beyond the ocean, someone does not like - NOT THEIR DOG CASE ... tongue wassat negative
        2. +2
          29 July 2014 13: 41
          Quote: volodyk50
          Please tell me what is it called?

          It's called double standards, son! wink
          1. 0
            30 July 2014 06: 07
            This is called a bitch howl .., and the standard is always the same, then it is the standard ...
      2. +9
        29 July 2014 12: 54
        Quote: schizophrenic
        They themselves violate. Now otmazon looking like with a Boeing. am



        Russia in 1987 made a joke about the limitation of missiles, just as the United States joked about the non-proliferation of NATO to the east



        1. +4
          29 July 2014 13: 00
          Quote: bulvas
          Quote: schizophrenic
          They themselves violate. Now otmazon looking like with a Boeing. am



          Russia in 1987 made a joke about the limitation of missiles, just as the United States joked about the non-proliferation of NATO to the east

          So now they are wandering for geyvropu, it's time for our major, who forgot to destroy the missiles, to assign the major general
      3. +5
        29 July 2014 12: 56
        Washington said that Moscow violated the Treaty on the Elimination of Intermediate-Range and Shorter-Range Missiles (INF) by testing a ground-based cruise missile (CRNB).


        And what? You can sue us hi
      4. AVV
        +2
        29 July 2014 14: 56
        Quote: schizophrenic
        They themselves violate. Now otmazon looking like with a Boeing. am

        Whose cow mumbled, their missiles violate this very treaty, but they want to convict us !!! As always from a bad mind to a healthy one !!! There is nothing to negotiate with America at all about, it’s still a crook !!!
      5. +1
        29 July 2014 18: 08
        Quote: schizophrenic
        They themselves violate. Now otmazon looking like with a Boeing. am

        Greetings to Banana Obama from the Country in which we all want to sanction him.
    2. +21
      29 July 2014 10: 30
      More needs to be done and placed at the border. Let Obama and Co ...
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    3. +39
      29 July 2014 10: 31
      Well then, it's time to get out of this INF Treaty, a meaningless restriction
      1. +16
        29 July 2014 10: 38
        I'm interested in something else. And how did they install? Have you looked at YouTube?
      2. nvv
        nvv
        +7
        29 July 2014 10: 38
        Russian Foreign Ministry Sergey Lavrov declined to comment on this publication.

        Yes, he sawed on these publications. I, too.
      3. +11
        29 July 2014 11: 06
        This agreement is not very beneficial for Russia and, quite the opposite, for the United States. It is not clear why he generally concluded at one time. But now, just the right time to come out of it unilaterally. And US statements can simply be ignored, just as they do when it is beneficial to them.
        1. +8
          29 July 2014 11: 12
          Hello from Gorbachev! For years to come.
        2. DMB-88
          +18
          29 July 2014 11: 20
          Quote: Andrei K
          This agreement is not very beneficial for Russia and, quite the opposite, for the United States. It is not clear why he generally concluded at one time. But now, just the right time to come out of it unilaterally. And US statements can simply be ignored, just as they do when it is beneficial to them.


          This treacherous treaty was signed by Judah-Gorbachev. The latest missile systems, including the magnificent Oka complex, were launched under the knife.
          the consequences of this treaty are the capture by NATO forces of all of Europe, including the republics of the former USSR.
          1. +3
            29 July 2014 12: 39
            Quote: DMB-88
            This treacherous treaty was signed by Judah-Gorbachev. The latest missile systems, including the magnificent Oka complex, were launched under the knife.
            the consequences of this treaty are the capture by NATO forces of all of Europe, including the republics of the former USSR.

            You'd better remember the RSD-10 15P157 Pioneer-3 medium-range mobile missile system - this particular complex was the main victim of the treaty.
            The operational-tactical missile system 9K714 "Oka" was a kind of "makeweight", it did not fit under the treaty, but, nevertheless, it was "reduced".
        3. persei333
          +3
          29 July 2014 11: 24
          I remember very well how it was concluded, on television, at least. I believe that the agreement is completely unprofitable for Russia, since we have and had an advantage in terms of RSD and operational-tactical missiles and tactical. (Pioneer, Oka-now- Iskander, etc.). Nefig listen to them and comply with the contract.
          1. 0
            29 July 2014 12: 40
            Quote: persei333
            I think that the agreement is completely disadvantageous for Russia, since we have and had an advantage in terms of RSD and operational-tactical missiles and tactical ones (Pioneer, Oka-now-Iskander, etc.).

            In terms of RSD, we have no advantages at all - we do not have land-based missiles of this class: all are reduced.
        4. 0
          29 July 2014 12: 31
          Quote: Andrei K
          This agreement is not very beneficial for Russia and, quite the opposite, for the United States. It is not clear why he generally concluded at one time. But now, just the right time to come out of it unilaterally. And US statements can simply be ignored, just as they do when it is beneficial to them.



          I hope the army is now arming for real, and not like the news reports:

          industry has supplied two TWO missile systems to the troops, and by the end of the year they plan to supply three more ...


        5. 0
          29 July 2014 12: 35
          ....Correctly!!!!! Lie on them big and fat !!!! wassat
      4. +1
        29 July 2014 11: 20
        ..Civil (3) RU Today, 10:31 ↑ New
        Well, okay, it's time to get out of this RIAC, .. "
        .and not only the agreement on the INF Treaty .. hague, security and other offices ..
    4. +22
      29 July 2014 10: 37
      Russia has not violated this agreement. If you use the terminology of the United States in relation to yourself, your loved ones, then it is correct to say this: "Russia withdrew from the treaty unilaterally." Moreover, this treaty was concluded by the USSR in 1987. Not Russia.
      1. +1
        29 July 2014 10: 59
        Yes, this is another horror story for Europe, so that the next package of sanctions and missile defense shove.
        1. 0
          29 July 2014 12: 36
          ..... Looks like a good rocket happened .... If the Americans howled ... wassat
      2. 0
        29 July 2014 21: 58
        Moreover, this contract was concluded by the USSR in 1987. And not Russia.

        And it’s not necessary to invent anything, it’s an Amer’s argument about Russian claims on missile defense.
    5. -1
      29 July 2014 10: 50
      I agree with you, they are so screaming, no one needs a powerful and strong state. They will not stop at their filthy sanctions anyway. So let them choke on their sanctions unfinished bastards together with their African American "friend".
    6. net abortion
      +12
      29 July 2014 10: 51
      only arm


      '' '
    7. +3
      29 July 2014 11: 02
      The mattress workers themselves do not comply with this agreement, Russia needs to withdraw from this agreement, it is absolutely disadvantageous for us and at the moment infringes on our defense
    8. +4
      29 July 2014 11: 07
      Quote: industries_88
      And then you need to break

      No, just to inform about the withdrawal in connection with the strengthening of NATO at the Russian borders.
      And in brackets to note: "It's nothing personal, just Smoked is already fucked up."
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    10. +2
      29 July 2014 11: 24
      I hope Lavrov popularly explained pendo.ske on which organ and at what speed we turned agreements with the United States and the opinions of their experts.
    11. +1
      29 July 2014 12: 20
      Hmm ... Hike the states live according to the principle from Krylov's fable ... "You are to blame for the fact that I want to eat ..." Just forgot that Russia is not a lamb !!! Itself who likes to grab !!!
    12. 225chay
      0
      29 July 2014 12: 44
      Spit and sneeze at the Americans and their highs

      Quote: industries_88
      And then you need to break



      Build and create ... Build and build and as many different types of weapons as possible, at the same time and jobs will appear ...
      Why are we still looking back at some lousy pin dos?
      Stalin did his job without paying attention to the howl of underpants.
    13. +5
      29 July 2014 12: 59
      Quote: industries_88
      And then you need to break)

      Gentlemen-Russia does not violate anything, these missiles are part of the Russian air defense system. They are not directed against NATO, this is to protect against North Korea and Iran.
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    16. +2
      29 July 2014 14: 41
      I agree to all 100 !!! Due to the fact that Russia does not intervene in the conflict in the former Ukraine, the sanctions have not decreased, but are only building up at a loss to the West itself. How they shouted that Russia was to blame for everything, for all sins around the world, Syria, Iraq, even Yugoslavia, which was bombed by peaceful and democratic Americans. They are tightening the ring of NATO, although they promised not to, they continue to build a missile defense, again against us, not mythical terrorists, with Korea and Iran combined. And the medium-range missiles themselves for the United States do not have any strategic significance, only for the allies, Europe and Japan in the first place. It is high time to break and send all these agreements to toilet needs, the West has already violated all conceivable promises and agreements. And the medium range, this is the main weapon of NATO’s remote control, and the Yankees are well aware of this, and from there hysteria.
    17. +1
      29 July 2014 14: 44
      No need to break anything. It is necessary to withdraw from all treaties inherited from the hunchback and transitional periods.
    18. randomizer
      0
      29 July 2014 14: 57
      It has long been necessary to drop these treaties. The world is changing very quickly, and these treaties reflect the realities of the world order for 30 years in the past. The United States imposed its missile defense on all sides, and short- and medium-range missiles are just death for him.
    19. 0
      29 July 2014 15: 41
      Mattress covers suffer from multiple sclerosis (remembered after 6 years !!!!) and a certain type of blindness, when something is seen everywhere. When our missiles were cut according to this agreement, they "zanachil" their own, as it was necessary to cut 1: 1, but they had more and do not remember it. The troops are at the borders, sometimes they see, sometimes they don't see. Such a state could only survive on an island. Now they crawl like cockroaches to other territories. But over time, the cockroaches run away. Their hour will come. The hour of reckoning for everything they do and have already done
    20. 0
      29 July 2014 16: 19
      And again, no evidence, but in principle it is no longer a secret since the modernized Iskander has really been in service for quite a long time and exceeds the range in the contract, and it is not the only one.
      The United States is afraid that the Russian Federation may destroy their missile defense bases in Pribludostan and Geyrope at the same time without formally declaring war on the United States itself. And just the presence of such missiles will make you think the leaders of those countries in whose territories have already been built or are just planning to build a base for attacking the Russian Federation, well, apart from dill, of course it's a complete clinic.
    21. 0
      29 July 2014 22: 37
      Friend, I absolutely agree with you, unfortunately they don’t hear us. There are so few of us ???
  2. +10
    29 July 2014 10: 27
    I always believed that the INF Treaty was only for ballistic missiles.
  3. +27
    29 July 2014 10: 27
    yes they would go on ... with their opinion !!! Different missiles are needed, different missiles are important !!!!
    1. +1
      29 July 2014 11: 12
      The time has now come to drive the United States into an arms race. You look and paper wrappers will not be.
      1. MBA78
        +3
        29 July 2014 11: 24
        haha piss in the fifth corner now striped satellites ...
        1. 0
          29 July 2014 18: 21
          Yes, and even if Russia violated something there in their opinion, then seeing how the USA just stupidly violates everything that is possible, what can they even tell us, let them look at their actions in the world, there’s so much dermis in countries I think the Russian Federation with a calm soul at the official level can be sent to HY, because they have sent the whole world the last 20 years there!
  4. +8
    29 July 2014 10: 27
    Russia needs to think about its security. We are doing everything right.
  5. +33
    29 July 2014 10: 28
    someone promised not to expand NATO’s eastward borders .......... start with yourself, learn to keep your word
    1. MBA78
      +2
      29 July 2014 11: 27
      and there these rockets must be destroyed ...
      1. +5
        29 July 2014 12: 04
        ... about America
  6. 0
    29 July 2014 10: 30
    Was there a violation? And if it was then whom?
    1. +1
      29 July 2014 12: 45
      It’s not clear what these missiles are based on. The treaty covers ground-based medium-range cruise missiles. But you can always take a break, that in the conditions of the test site, a sea-launched cruise missile or, at worst, an air-based missile was tested; or that this is not a new missile, but the development and verification of the effectiveness of air defense on missiles of old versions withdrawn from service and modified specifically for these tests.
  7. Bombardier
    0
    29 July 2014 10: 30
    Pid_ry run up! if we make such missiles - well done, if not - we need to do this urgently!
  8. +4
    29 July 2014 10: 31
    As he already got Fushington's howl, they believe that the truth is only what they say, and they are superior to proving something.
  9. +13
    29 July 2014 10: 31
    According to Russia, the United States generally violated all conceivable and inconceivable norms, not only international law, but also human!
    1. +1
      29 July 2014 10: 55
      Quote: Finches
      According to Russia,

      and a lot of honor for mattresses .. say yes write from Russia.
      It is enough for them that I believe that the United States should be destroyed by US citizens.
      In my humble opinion - the parasite of the USA should disappear on the body of our planet ...
      A friend writes from Ukraine ....
      Hey. I’m monitoring the Internet every day, here I have a pelt)) I don’t really trust the TV set ...
      the family is in order, my mother-in-law’s daughter, I’ll send my wife on vacation and I’ll leave to protect Nenko myself ...
      I hope soon the active phase will end already ...
      but about the minorities with the majority in the Crimea was already visible.
      hold on there with

      No words (((... That's what I object to him? What can I tell him if he believes that it’s my mosk washed. (((
      1. +2
        29 July 2014 11: 04
        Don’t answer anything!
        Sooner or later, everything will fall into place, including the brains of your friend ..., the only thing I fear is that it will be too late and nothing can be done! In the meantime, the chances remain that not only individual people will be friends, but also our peoples!
        1. 0
          29 July 2014 12: 21
          Quote: Finches
          Don’t answer anything!

          well, I do just that ((((although a lot of what I would like to ask him about .. he is an air defense officer, a major from Kharkov and a very advanced person in himself .. but at the expense of the events in Ukraine (the same Berkut) he has a diametrically the opposite opinion and "Berkut" he spread rot for the fact that they "allegedly" beat simple recumbent students ...
          I really hope that sooner or later he will change his attitude to the events.
  10. +3
    29 July 2014 10: 31
    I thought that the opinion of the mattresses did not bother us at all ... Let them look after their ass.
    1. 0
      29 July 2014 10: 33
      Quote: Kuvabatake
      I thought that the opinion of the mattresses did not bother us at all ..

      And here, you are mistaken. Exciting and how, judging by recent events ...
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  11. +4
    29 July 2014 10: 32
    I also think that it is necessary to violate, otherwise we just do nothing.
  12. +6
    29 July 2014 10: 32
    It’s necessary a lot, there’s a lot of things that America has violated
  13. pinecone
    +3
    29 July 2014 10: 32
    The "partners" got scammed.
  14. +5
    29 July 2014 10: 33
    Yes, then the whole question is that we launched a missile with a large (over 5,5 tkm) radius of action at a distance of up to 5,5 tkm ... If a rocket is capable of flying 11 tkm, why can't it fly 3 t.km ??? laughing
  15. korablik
    +2
    29 July 2014 10: 33
    It seems this is the agony of a negro. I remembered what happened in 2008. But it "seems" to him. The principle, at least something to shout before death. Could immediately, at choice - Sieg heil, glory to the ruin, heroes of fat.
  16. +3
    29 July 2014 10: 34
    Washington said that Moscow violated the Treaty on the Elimination of Intermediate-Range and Shorter-Range Missiles (INF) by testing a ground-based cruise missile (CRNB).
    All claims to Gorbachev MS, he promised you, ask him from him. NATO also promised not to expand to the East. hi
  17. +3
    29 July 2014 10: 34
    "It was not a ground-based KRBD, but a one-time attack drone and does not fall under the contract! Put your claims as intended!"
    I would say that ...
  18. +2
    29 July 2014 10: 34
    It's time to get out of this "farce of medium and shorter range"
    1. +2
      29 July 2014 11: 25
      And at the same time to withdraw from the nuclear non-proliferation treaty. Let us give Iran our ancient rubbish with a generous hand - and immediately the ambition of Israel will decrease. It would also be nice to revive the BZHRK.
  19. +3
    29 July 2014 10: 34
    Yes, they go through the woods with their agreement, it is necessary to officially get out of it.
  20. leglun
    +3
    29 July 2014 10: 35
    Yes, they went to the farm of butterflies to catch, everything must be violated and spit on their warnings and exclamations. We must act by proverb, and the godfather listens and eats !!!
  21. +4
    29 July 2014 10: 35
    In the context of the promotion of a new Cold War, this is a deterrent to Europe and America! Promotion to our borders, including the association of ruins with NATO! Obama is already threatening to take action! It's time to not moo yourself!
  22. +6
    29 July 2014 10: 36
    The United States withdrew from the ABM Treaty, Russia needs to withdraw from the INF Treaty! Many southern and eastern friends have full INF!
  23. +9
    29 July 2014 10: 36
    Against the background of complete violations on their part in missile defense, the expansion of NATO, the merging of missile defense-precision weapons-offensive into a single unit, we REQUIRED missiles of reduced range. And lettington broadcast his opinion at least where. On their part, violations are orders of magnitude greater. And they are not friends to us, even on paper. So let your opinion be shoved into a well-known place.
    THX.
  24. +7
    29 July 2014 10: 37
    Can you return the missiles to Cuba? Get quiet.
    1. +1
      29 July 2014 10: 49
      I just wanted to write it myself. CORRECTLY! To deploy not only cruise missiles in Cuba, but also a missile defense system with radars and anti-missiles! Then the mattresses jump !!!
  25. +1
    29 July 2014 10: 37
    Obama would rather pay more attention to his citizens:
    07: 15, 29 July 2014
    The student put on sale Obama's letter to pay for his studies


    Photo: www.inside.com
    American student Jesse Granger put up for sale a letter received from US President Barack Obama to pay for his studies at the university. This writes the New York Post.

    Back in 2011, Granger wrote a letter to Obama in which he spoke about his life. According to the young man, in 13 years, he became an orphan after the death of his adoptive mother. Within four years, Granger changed several adoptive families and, tired of living among alcoholics, drug addicts, homeless people and constant violence, decided to start his own life so as not to become the same as those around him.

    “On the day when I turned 17, I left the house with a bag, where there were several books, clothes and the Bible of my mother, and went on a journey that changed my life forever,” wrote Granger to Obama.

    The young man was lucky to get into a good family in South Carolina, so he graduated from college. However, when Granger was accepted to the university, the question arose about paying for his studies, which 10 thousand dollars lacked.

    In his letter, the student asked the president to help realize his dream. The President in response thanked Granger for the appeal. “The best advice I can give you is to finish your education. I am proud of you! ”Obama wrote.

    Now, three years later, to cover all training costs, Granger decided to sell the letter for 9,5 thousand dollars.

    http://lenta.ru/news/2014/07/29/letter/
  26. +2
    29 July 2014 10: 38
    According to the United States, the Russian Federation violated the Treaty on the Elimination of Medium and Short Range Missiles


    Yes, they went to {EQ ...
  27. tyrus
    +3
    29 July 2014 10: 38
    Yes, they would not have gone with their statements as "dogs"! Why have they been silent for six years? Or has the rocket just arrived? smile USA must be destroyed! So Wang foresaw!
  28. argon
    +2
    29 July 2014 10: 42
    This agreement was signed by Hunchback so that he could later hang out in a geyrop with a Nobel laureate. What so flattered pride. Well, get out of the harvester to the very top, handle with the offspring of royal houses. In conditions when NATO is surrounding Russia quite densely, RSDs of up to 5,5 thousand km will be very appropriate.
  29. +2
    29 July 2014 10: 43
    Forgive me, perhaps, my ignorance, but the deployment of missile defense around the territory of Russia, this is not a violation? because installation data (or I'm wrong) can be used to launch ground-to-ground missiles. Moreover, the sense in this treaty is if it includes only 2 parties from the USA and Russia (by the way, then the USSR) and the rest can carry out, launch, as much as you like, how can we not care about security? besides, the United States did not develop such systems when (why do they need them, they are fighting from far away) giving these systems to the NATO countries (their vassals) the only thing that seems true is that Russia had to carry out the denunciation of the treaty long ago, as We do not meet the safety requirements of the Russian Federation
    1. 0
      29 July 2014 11: 59
      Quote: LevITon
      Forgive me, perhaps, my ignorance, but the deployment of missile defense around the territory of Russia, this is not a violation? because installation data (or I'm wrong) can be used to launch ground-to-ground missiles. Moreover, the sense in this treaty is if it includes only 2 parties from the USA and Russia (by the way, then the USSR) and the rest can carry out, launch, as much as you like, how can we not care about security? besides, the United States did not develop such systems when (why do they need them, they are fighting from far away) giving these systems to the NATO countries (their vassals) the only thing that seems true is that Russia had to carry out the denunciation of the treaty long ago, as We do not meet the safety requirements of the Russian Federation

      I apologize, why is this a mattress with a capital letter, and Russia with a small one?
  30. slava11
    -3
    29 July 2014 10: 43
    Why are you all so nervous. You have the most ballistic missiles in the world. Americans are afraid of them. Europeans are afraid of the Iskander. Why are you even developing anything else? And so everyone is afraid. Or not?
    1. +6
      29 July 2014 10: 57
      Yeah, but a plumbing pipe with stabilizers from a galvanized bucket can do a lot if it goes where it is intended! You know ... For the sake of this - "where intended" and we are developing!
      1. slava11
        -5
        29 July 2014 15: 04
        So I agree that it is necessary to develop - but it’s sickening to read when a ship that doesn’t remember when it left the slipway is written that it is the MOST and not only about the ship. Objectivity ZERO as for Russian weapons.

        And again with us ..

        During the battle in Khan Younis, the "Mail Ruach" active protection system was activated on the Merkava 4 tank.

        Palestinian terrorists fired an anti-tank missile at the 401st Brigade's Merkava east of Khan Younis. The Mail Ruach shot down a missile.

        Merkava's team immediately suppressed the source of the fire.
    2. +4
      29 July 2014 12: 22
      Quote: slava11
      Why are you all so nervous

      And we just don’t get nervous, it’s you who come to GMO hi
      Quote: slava11
      You have ballistic missiles the most ballistic missiles in the world

      There is, therefore, we are not nervous bully
      Quote: slava11
      Why are you even developing anything else?

      And so for each of your greetings
      An answer has flown to you
      soldier
      Quote: slava11
      And so everyone is afraid

      So let them continue to fear, let them fear us rather than we them hi
      PS More rockets - good and different soldier
    3. +4
      29 July 2014 12: 55
      Quote: slava11
      Why are you all so nervous. You have the most ballistic missiles in the world. Americans are afraid of them. Europeans are afraid of the Iskander. Why are you even developing anything else? And so everyone is afraid. Or not?

      It's simple: Iskander cannot even reach Berlin from the Kaliningrad region. Strategic missiles are designed to strike the United States. But before a possible strike, the United States may concentrate in Europe a grouping that we have nothing to reach. Waste "strategists"? But then the actual territory of the United States will not get. And the nuclear forces of Britain and France, as well as the bases of other NATO members, cannot be ignored - this is more expensive for ourselves. Now only aviation (Tu-22M2) can "get" these targets, there is little hope for the fleet.
  31. +2
    29 July 2014 10: 44
    Quote: AndreyRS
    Against the background of complete violations on their part in missile defense, the expansion of NATO, the merging of missile defense-precision weapons-offensive into a single unit, we REQUIRED missiles of reduced range. And lettington broadcast his opinion at least where. On their part, violations are orders of magnitude greater. And they are not friends to us, even on paper. So let your opinion be shoved into a well-known place.
    THX.

    I agree with you. Amerikosy really finished id-you. NATO is expanding, missile defense is being built, and preparing for war with Russia. And against this background, they are shouting that Russians are testing short- and medium-range missiles. Indeed, Zadornov said, Well, they are very stupid !!!
    1. 225chay
      +1
      29 July 2014 17: 04
      Quote: pascal309
      against this background, they shout that the Russians are testing short- and medium-range missiles. Indeed, Zadornov said, Well, they are very stupid !!!


      They are not so stupid as vile and deceitful!
  32. +3
    29 July 2014 10: 45
    why are these baboons silent since 2008
  33. +2
    29 July 2014 10: 46
    At one time, the United States crushed the USSR precisely with an arms race. The time has come to return the "return line" and provoke the US to increase the budget for the arms race. And therefore - nafig contracts, and do not care for screams, we are trying to expose us as aggressors without any violations. So maybe start to match the image? It is easy to believe in the West; this idea has been imposed on their inhabitants for several decades.
    1. slava11
      -10
      29 July 2014 10: 51
      US Military Budget - 526,800,000,000
      European Union - 300
      Russia's military budget - 71,200,780,000
      Will you overtake them?
      1. +6
        29 July 2014 10: 53
        No, and do not. ;) Small means with the application of the mind can provoke a waste of disproportionately large funds. In particular, you can use the hysterical mood about Russian aggression and the capitalist interests of Western arms manufacturers.
      2. +5
        29 July 2014 12: 02
        Quote: slava11
        US Military Budget - 526,800,000,000
        European Union - 300
        Russia's military budget - 71,200,780,000
        Will you overtake them?


        well, their budgets can be safely divided by 3-5 if not more, they’re sawing their Serdyukovs no worse than ours
        1. +2
          29 July 2014 12: 12
          Quote: kostyan77708
          well, their budgets can be safely divided by 3-5 if not more, they’re sawing their Serdyukovs no worse than ours


          Yes Serdyukov is a child in comparison with them. Plus add the cost of maintaining all AUGs there. It is after these deductions that the military budget of Russia will turn out.
        2. +3
          29 July 2014 13: 00
          We do not need to catch up with the money, it is enough to slightly (2 times, or better 5 times) increase the range of the Iskander and slightly revise the plans for their production and deployment - and that will be enough.
        3. slava11
          -4
          29 July 2014 15: 00
          Judging by the cost of 1 km of road construction, Americans still have to study and learn from you. Do not be shy.
      3. +1
        29 July 2014 12: 15
        The data is pretty old, late 70s. A month after "h" - the losses of the USA - 120 million people, the USSR - 140 million people. (due to the population density of the European part of the USSR). The turn in 2 weeks is the northwest coast of France. At least half of what we promised we are able to do now ... Can you pull this alignment? That's when I got a little nervous. By the way, everything was told thoroughly, without hysterics, shapkozakidatelsva. With numbers, deadlines and milestones. Not secret, no, so chipboard, so that they figured out what's what ... Well, will you pull 100 million coffins?
        1. +5
          29 July 2014 13: 08
          Quote: dauria
          The data is pretty old, late 70s. A month after "h" - the losses of the USA - 120 million people, the USSR - 140 million people. (due to the population density of the European part of the USSR).

          A bit wrong: the US population density is much higher, it is more compact - the Atlantic and Pacific coast plus the Great Lakes region. When exchanging blows with the USSR (late 70s - early 80s), US losses were estimated at 150-180 million, the USSR - 100-120 million.
          Keep in mind that a little later, in the 80s, in response to the Reagan SDI, the concept of deep-sea nuclear mining of the world's oceans was proposed with the aim of creating a tsunami and causing damage to the coast of the enemy. In this case, a wave appears at the site of the explosion, approximately equal to the depth of the underwater nuclear charge.
          But a lot of infrastructure and the United States and Europe are located on the coast.
      4. +3
        29 July 2014 12: 34
        How much money the monkey doesn’t give it anyway it will wipe the ass!
        History has proven that quantity is not equal to quality.
      5. 0
        29 July 2014 13: 24
        In all, of course not, but in something specific - a completely achievable goal. It would be a desire. Do you not know this?
      6. 0
        29 July 2014 13: 36
        Here the question consists of what this military budget is. There are a lot of amers for social services (salaries, all kinds of subsidies for housing and education) goes to the maintenance of the bases. R&D itself is much less, and even there a lot of money is spent on dead-end projects such as an "aircraft laser cannon" or an absolutely failed F-35 aircraft. The cut goes there too, be healthy. I know this personally from the amer, who dreamed of stealing from the Navy and opening a small logistics outsourcing business for the base on his contacts. Naturally overpriced. There the cut goes. Europeans, I think, have a similar picture
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      8. +2
        29 July 2014 14: 07
        It seems that we are already overtaking since they started yelling.
  34. malahit4444
    +2
    29 July 2014 10: 47
    Go poke with the uki of Iskander in their mouth
  35. Rubmolot
    +3
    29 July 2014 10: 48
    Well, they made fun again .. laughing
    Fushington and the contract with him - sounds like a contract with a worker of a common orgasm about celibacy.

    Ceterum censeo USA esse delendam
  36. +2
    29 July 2014 10: 48
    not to produce, not to test and deploy ground-based ballistic and cruise missiles of medium (1000-5500 km) and shorter (500-1000 km) range. They also had to destroy all launchers and ground-based missiles within three years.

    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/412/xnoo473.jpg
  37. +4
    29 July 2014 10: 48
    But in my opinion, we need to apologize a little. Like, forgiveness, I escaped one, the most harmful ... We have a whole pack of them, unless you see everyone! .. sad
  38. +6
    29 July 2014 10: 50
    I hope that these missiles will soon guard the territory of Cuba and Venezuela.
    1. slava11
      -4
      29 July 2014 10: 55
      Damn you again agree to feed these parasites. Take the money now, what fund?
      1. +2
        29 July 2014 11: 03
        Quote: slava11
        Take the money now, what fund?
        - But who then takes the money from them? Cuba has forgiven part of the debt - mainly interest, and the rest we are letting into the development of Cuba itself! hi
        1. slava11
          -2
          29 July 2014 15: 01
          And what is developing there unless of course, as usual, a secret?
          1. 0
            30 July 2014 09: 06
            Quote: slava11
            And what is developing there unless of course, as usual, a secret?
            - not a secret, but so far there is little information! I just know that Cubans let us on the shelf on favorable terms! Anyway, where to spend 3,2 billion dollars. there is where! hi
  39. +3
    29 July 2014 10: 51
    Since Americans are nervous, then we do everything right. It’s necessary to place all beginnings and ideas in the Amer’s press, and then to make dislocations: hysteria is a vital matter, positive feedback is not worth starting.
  40. +2
    29 July 2014 10: 52
    What is there to discuss. This American "letter" is only suitable for discussion between clerks in the Foreign Ministry's smoking room.
  41. DPZ
    +3
    29 July 2014 10: 52
    in the new reality, it's time to steal the old arrangements!
  42. +1
    29 July 2014 10: 53
    "These statements do not seem convincing to us ..."
  43. +2
    29 July 2014 10: 54
    “The United States found that the Russian Federation violated obligations under the INF Treaty not to test, manufacture, or deploy KLNB (ground-based cruise missiles) with a range of 500 kilometers to 5,5 thousand kilometers,”


    American sanctions have taken effect, but you do not worry dear Yankees, these are short- and medium-range missiles, and they are not directed against you. Glory to Russia!!! laughing
  44. Party3an
    +2
    29 July 2014 10: 55
    Let pend * s shove this treaty into your head. belay
  45. +1
    29 July 2014 10: 55
    It is necessary to make addressable BR. Specifically, on such creatures as: Poroshenko and Co., Obama and Co.
  46. +2
    29 July 2014 10: 56
    Can someone explain to me how this statement correlates with the fact that the United States has a huge number of such carriers (the same tamahawks) that they produce and are constantly upgrading?

    I think that the Americans are trying again to play a win-win fool. Those. If we send them, they will yell at once about the carnivorous Russians, from whom the threat to Europe comes (missiles are medium, they will not reach the USA). And if we agree, then, as always, they simply put their battle axes in the warehouse until they want to deliver a global preventive strike on us. Those. about three or four years later, when (and if they succeed) the Ukrainian and Moldavian armies will be rearmament and they will be told ata Russia ..
    1. 0
      29 July 2014 12: 11
      Can someone explain to me how this statement correlates with the fact that the United States has a huge number of such carriers (the same tamahawks) that they produce and are constantly upgrading?

      The Tamagawks have carriers or ships or planes, while the INF Treaty is talking about ground carriers (mobile soil complexes)
      1. 0
        30 July 2014 12: 18
        Quote: Rostovchanin
        Can someone explain to me how this statement correlates with the fact that the United States has a huge number of such carriers (the same tamahawks) that they produce and are constantly upgrading?

        The Tamagawks have carriers or ships or planes, while the INF Treaty is talking about ground carriers (mobile soil complexes)

        Thank. Now it is clear.
    2. shelin2010
      +1
      29 July 2014 12: 17
      August 6 and 9 is the anniversary of the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. We must fully utilize this in all media. And China will bill for the radioactive contamination of its territory as a result of US actions. And not only the PRC, but other neighboring countries (DPRK, Vietnam, etc.)
  47. +1
    29 July 2014 10: 58
    Earlier, the New York Times stated that the test of a new cruise missile conducted by Russia in 2008 !!!
    After the fight, they don’t wave their fists ... or only the Americans!
  48. +1
    29 July 2014 10: 59
    no longer know what to complain about! for a long time it comes to them!))) Already from 2008 digested information! Correctly Zadornov says that they are DULL!
  49. +6
    29 July 2014 11: 00
    But is it not enough for Russia to justify itself to all, is it not time to start blaming them all for all their sins. For Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya and others to sue them in the Hague court, to accuse the Nobel Peace Prize winner of fomenting war, supporting terrorism, fascism, etc. It is time to advance, and not to smear snot on the cheeks and make excuses to everyone.
    1. arch_kate3
      +5
      29 July 2014 11: 43
      It's time, it's time! We have our own hounds! Set our psak on theirs!
  50. calocha
    +9
    29 July 2014 11: 01
    It’s time to stop paying attention to Europe and the USA. They have already violated everything that is possible .. If we are independent, we are obliged to bend our line without looking at anyone.
    1. slava11
      -8
      29 July 2014 11: 10
      This is patsansky. Today - now leave their UN.
      1. +5
        29 July 2014 13: 12
        Quote: slava11
        This is patsansky. Today - now leave their UN.


        What is this for? Russia is a member of the Security Council. The UN will not be able to make any REAL decision without Russia.
        1. slava11
          -4
          29 July 2014 15: 01
          What do you mean why???

          Russian Foreign Ministry criticized the "hypocritical" UN report on Ukraine
  51. +4
    29 July 2014 11: 02
    Earlier, the New York Times stated that the test of a new cruise missile, conducted by Russia in 2008, could be, in the opinion of the United States, a violation of the INF Treaty. State Department spokesman Jen Psaki noted that Washington raised the issue of a possible breach of the contract in negotiations with Moscow, but did not conclude that it really took place. Then Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov declined to comment on this publication.

    The question immediately arises, why did the Americans remain silent for 6 (SIX) years? This is not the mythical “weapon of mass destruction” of Iraq or the nuclear program of Iran, which is like roads on Mars, either they exist or they don’t, these are modern weapons capable of inflicting a blow to their allies and US bases in Europe.
    Secondly, in accordance with the concluded agreement on the elimination of intermediate-range and shorter-range missiles dated December 8, 1987, by June 1991 the USSR destroyed 1846 missile systems: RSD-10 Pioneer, R-12, R-14, OTR -22 "Temp-S" and OTR-23 "Oka" and ground-based cruise missiles RK-55 (about half of them were produced missiles that were not on combat duty); USA - 846 complexes: Pershing-2 and BGM-109G (ground-based Tomahawk cruise missile), Pershing-1A.
    Thirdly, OTR-23 "Oka" formally should not have been covered by the agreement, since it had a launch range of up to 400 km. In accordance with this generally accepted criterion, the complex should not have been included in the number of restricted systems. However, “Gorby” and “Chevy”, despite all the objections of the military, in particular Marshal Akhromeyev, having committed an act of betrayal, decided to please their American “friends” and included “Oka” among the complexes to be destroyed. In 1987, after the signing of this agreement, tests of the improved Oka-U complex were also stopped.

    One of the episodes of the destruction of Oka missiles by detonation. Warhead - training. Sary-Ozek, approximately 1989
    Fourthly, Americans were repeatedly warned that Russia could withdraw from the Treaty. The first time Putin did this was in June 2000 in response to the US announcement of its withdrawal from the ABM Treaty. Sergei Ivanov, when he was Russia's defense minister, described the INF Treaty as a “relic of the Cold War.” He stated that Russia should be armed with medium and short-range missiles, if only because India, Pakistan, Korea, China, Iran and Israel have them:
    “These countries are located close to our borders, and we cannot ignore this. Only two countries do not have the right to possess these missiles: Russia and the United States. This cannot go on forever."

    In February 2007, the commander of the Strategic Missile Forces announced at a press conference that Russia was ready to restore the production of medium-range ballistic missiles:
    “As a class, the MRBMs were destroyed, but all the documentation remained, all the technology remained. In the shortest possible time, if necessary, the production of these complexes will be restored. But with new technologies, on a new element base, with a new control system, with new capabilities.”

    This statement was made in response to reports that Poland and the Czech Republic intend to accept the US proposal to deploy missile defense elements (surveillance radars and interceptor missiles) on their territory.
    On June 22, 2013, Putin again announced the possibility of the Russian Federation withdrawing from the treaty.
  52. +4
    29 July 2014 11: 02
    The installation of a missile defense system in Poland, Romania and other countries is a real violation of everything. Russia is forced to defend itself. In addition to this and everything else, you need to clearly read the agreement and understand that “Russia withdrew from the agreement unilaterally.” In addition this agreement was concluded by the USSR in 1987( all complaints against Gorbachev). Not Russia. Missile defense missiles are the same as medium-range missiles that can be reloaded with nuclear warheads within a few hours, provided that this work is properly organized. A lot of nuclear warheads are still stored in occupied USA and UK GERMANY. There are 289 US military bases in Germany. Russia does not have such bases in Europe. And it’s right that Lavrov did not read this, sorry, crap!
  53. 0
    29 July 2014 11: 02
    According to the United States, the Russian Federation violated the Treaty on the Elimination of Medium and Short Range Missiles

    Whoever confessed, then ........, and if it’s true, I support it completely!
  54. Drunya
    +1
    29 July 2014 11: 04
    Over the past 2 weeks we have been accused of everything.
    and the answer is - and us army
  55. +1
    29 July 2014 11: 07
    Quote: slava11
    Why are you all so nervous. You have the most ballistic missiles in the world. Americans are afraid of them. Europeans are afraid of the Iskander. Why are you even developing anything else? And so everyone is afraid. Or not?


    We will need it greatly and we will calm you down, it will be one continuous Dead Sea...
    It’s better to be on Censor with such advice and questions...
  56. 0
    29 July 2014 11: 07
    Would they walk sideways?
  57. 0
    29 July 2014 11: 10
    Quote: Elena
    It’s necessary a lot, there’s a lot of things that America has violated

    They do not violate, they introduce dermocracy. Every day there is more and more hatred for the mattress rulers!!!!!!!!!!! They will be rewarded according to their deserts, each one. Especially their black sheep am
  58. 0
    29 July 2014 11: 12
    Rules and agreements must be observed when your opponent observes them. We have the right not to comply with them because the United States and the West as a whole have never complied with them in any way. Listening to cries and fulfilling their demands means harming the country’s defense capability and losing credibility in the world. The Yankes are only afraid of power.
  59. naguch
    +1
    29 July 2014 11: 13
    Rockets are awesome!!! But in my opinion they are lying again.
  60. 0
    29 July 2014 11: 17
    What they mean is that since Russia has violated, then it’s time for them to bring their “accidentally preserved” RSDs to Europe. Whether Russia violated it or not, no one cares anymore, “they shot it down for the wrong reason.”
  61. 0
    29 July 2014 11: 21
    But they did not try to look at their violations. You can't see the beam in your own eye.
  62. 0
    29 July 2014 11: 24
    So Putin said, I don’t remember what the Baltic-Polish outcry was raised about, that we don’t give a damn about anyone’s concerns. We have our own. Much clearer.
  63. 0
    29 July 2014 11: 25
    Many agreements with Washington should be reviewed and denounced as having lost their relevance from the point of view of Russian security. We are peaceful people, but our armored train is on a siding. And maybe the most sensible decision for the EU in terms of breaking dependence on the United States is to announce through all channels that Russia is aiming its ballistic missiles at the capitals and military bases of NATO countries. And the wording, in connection with the deterioration of the military-political situation at the borders of the Russian Federation and then blah, blah, blah. Jokes aside, it’s time to end the big top in politics. If the EU dances to the tune of the United States, then the real threat of destruction is guaranteed to force them to use their brains to find a solution. And in general, introduce to the UN Security Council the issue of the withdrawal of all US bases from European territory. What are they there for...
  64. 0
    29 July 2014 11: 26
    Yes, I don’t care from the highest bell tower, after NATO began to expand after the unilateral dissolution of the Warsaw Pact. It can't get any worse.
  65. 0
    29 July 2014 11: 30
    As I understand it, they have brought the Iskander missile system to mind. They have a range of exactly 5500-7500 km, depending on the warhead. And all their missile defense was covered with a copper basin.
    1. 0
      29 July 2014 13: 15
      Quote: shinobi
      As I understand it, they have brought the Iskander missile system to mind. They have a range of exactly 5500-7500 km, depending on the warhead. And all their missile defense was covered with a copper basin.

      Missiles with a range of over 5500 are not covered by the INF Treaty.
  66. 0
    29 July 2014 11: 32
    Yes, according to the opinion of mattress makers, it is necessary to put a big and thick one. A lot of these listen to other opinions. Enough!!!!! until disarmed.!!!!!!
  67. arch_kate3
    0
    29 July 2014 11: 38
    To whom we owe, we have forgiven everyone. Forget...
  68. 0
    29 July 2014 11: 41
    they themselves violated all international laws and norms .. they live at the expense of all of us and they teach us to live .. we experience what we want .. these agreements were concluded to the detriment of our defense capability, which we are now restoring .. thank God that now we don’t have to stand in queues for IMF loans on their terms... hi
  69. +5
    29 July 2014 11: 42
    Quote: slava11
    US Military Budget - 526,800,000,000
    European Union - 300
    Russia's military budget - 71,200,780,000
    Will you overtake them?


    Slava, compare the figures for military budgets
    Israel-
    Palestine-
    And based on these numbers, prove Israel’s imminent victory in this conflict hi
    1. slava11
      -1
      29 July 2014 12: 09
      Again you confuse cold with soft. We just want them not to fire rockets at civilians, not to come out of the ground killing civilians and children, not to kidnap and kill CHILDREN. ALL! We just want silence. We agreed to a cessation of hostilities 6 times and each time Hamas continued to do everything to kill more Jews.
      1. +3
        29 July 2014 12: 20
        Again you confuse cold with soft. We just want them not to fire rockets at civilians, not to come out of the ground killing civilians and children, not to kidnap and kill CHILDREN. ALL! We just want silence. We agreed to a cessation of hostilities 6 times and each time Hamas continued to do everything to kill more Jews.

        Slava, you are funny in your comment, I don’t want children, women and old people to be killed in Donbass and for US bases in Europe to be covered by our military with just such missiles. It was not for nothing that they expanded to the east?
        1. slava11
          -3
          29 July 2014 15: 06
          Or maybe in vain. Here the patriots are screaming at our submarine missile carriers, there is no need to withdraw them from their bases at all, they will bring Kuzka’s mother to America anyway.
      2. +2
        29 July 2014 12: 53
        Firstly, in the original source they confuse warm with soft, this is so for general development.
        Secondly, by comparing the military budgets of the EU, USA and Russia, you are trying to derive a formula for efficiency in the alleged armed conflict between these countries.
        Please, then, use your own method to compare Israel and Palestine.
        Instead, you press me for pity with CAPS. The question is not about children but about budgets.
        1. slava11
          -3
          29 July 2014 13: 15
          No, I’m not talking about efficiency, I’m talking about the arms race - one has already been screwed up. Again?
          1. +2
            29 July 2014 13: 24
            Quote: slava11
            I'm talking about the arms race - one has already been screwed up
            - who and when? And how did you determine this? Russia was, is and will be on the map! Unlike people with an artificial homeland... laughing
            1. slava11
              -3
              29 July 2014 15: 15
              Israel already existed more than 2000 years ago, Joshua is proof of this. hi
              And now I’m here to confirm that. good
              1. +2
                29 July 2014 15: 20
                Quote: slava11
                Israel - more than 2000 years ago there was already
                - were you not smart enough to create a normal state? Only in 1947 with a handout? wink
                1. slava11
                  -2
                  29 July 2014 15: 49
                  That's how it happened. As in the verse - Thanks to Comrade Stalin.
  70. -2
    29 July 2014 11: 43
    It would be necessary to completely destroy it, so that the hawks would stop gaping at Russia...
  71. +1
    29 July 2014 11: 43
    In today's conditions, we need to give a damn about all previously signed agreements. In war, everything will come in handy. In Donbass, the weapons of the First World War also came in handy.
    We must proceed from the fact that we do not owe anything to anyone.
    We do and create what we need.
  72. +3
    29 July 2014 11: 43
    Previously, the New York Times stated that the test of a new cruise missile conducted by Russia in 2008 could, according to the United States, be a violation of the INF Treaty


    And in 1953 we tested the first hydrogen bomb, in 1945 we defeated the Nazis, in 1812 we “teared off” Napoleon’s army, in the 14th century - the Tatar-Mongols... etc.

    What else will we remember?
    Those. No one has cared about this since 2008, have they woken up now?

    And in general, talking about Russian violations and Russia reacting is pointless.
    First of all, Y.S.Y. is in deep shit; and secondly, Russia needs to stop tailoring itself to someone else; everything we do in our interests should not concern anyone. THIS IS OUR INTERESTS IN OUR TERRITORY!
    1. slava11
      -6
      29 July 2014 12: 12
      Just don’t talk about the Tatar-Mongols. More than half of the Russian population has Mongolian genes. This is because Russian women have been raped for 300 years. This is a fact and not a mockery. Sometimes it's better to chew than to talk.
      1. +2
        29 July 2014 12: 52
        Quote: slava11
        Sometimes it's better to chew than talk.

        laughing Go ahead and chew, there’s no need to fill people’s heads with all sorts of chaotic, incomprehensible nonsense...

        Especially for you I found an article about the Turkic origin of modern Jews (Khazar)
        http://www.pravda.ru/science/mysterious/past/23-01-2013/1142514-hazarya-0/
        These same Khazar Jews were finished off by the Mongols, and the Khazar-Jews inseminated by the Mongols fled to Europe and founded European Jewish communities there. So all your words about Mongolian genes prevailing in the Russian ethnic group are nothing more than a fart in a puddle. My words can be confirmed by a geneticist of Jewish origin, Eran Elhaik, and a Jewish writer from Hungary, Arthur Koestler, who conducted genetic, linguistic and ethnographic research....

        PS The INF Treaty needs to be denounced, and the sooner the better.
        1. slava11
          -4
          29 July 2014 13: 17
          So I don’t boast about our victories. And you are not talking about non-existent ones. The Mongols simply disappeared into oblivion like the Roman Empire. Nobody, including Rus', defeated them.
      2. +2
        29 July 2014 13: 25
        Quote: slava11
        Just don’t talk about the Tatar-Mongols. More than half of the Russian population has Mongolian genes. This is because Russian women have been raped for 300 years. This is a fact and not a mockery. Sometimes it's better to chew than to talk.


        You missed the point with history and rape! This is the same as blaming the US for the systematic violence of the ENTIRE population of Germany only on the grounds that there are US occupation troops in Germany. But Rus' was not subject to occupation by the Golden Horde. The princes themselves collected tribute and took it to the Horde. In addition, we need to talk about Tatar, and not Mongolian genes. Even according to the current officially generally accepted presentation of history in the troops of Batu and the Golden Horde, the number of Mongols at the beginning, during the invasion, was no more than 10%, and after 30-40 years, except for the khans, there were none at all. The rest were Kipchaks-Turks. Even before the so-called yoke, we had a perfect symbiosis with them. The Prince of Kiev swore an oath of allegiance to the people of Kyiv, the Torks, the Kovuys and the Black Klobuks (Karakalpaks) - these last three peoples were Turks. The princes were generally related to the Cuman-Kipchaks - mutual weddings are mentioned very often.
      3. +3
        29 July 2014 13: 31
        - generally 1 in 1! laughing
      4. +2
        29 July 2014 14: 53
        Quote: slava11
        Just don’t talk about the Tatar-Mongols. More than half of the Russian population has Mongolian genes. This is because Russian women have been raped for 300 years. This is a fact and not a joke

        This is not a fact, but a fiction. Russians have a lower percentage of epicanthus than Western Europeans. It is Jewish women who, in order to improve the genotype, mix with everyone in a row, and there may be large quantities of Mongoloid genes.
  73. +1
    29 July 2014 11: 44
    This sabotage agreement should have been broken long ago, given that the Americans are pushing Europe for missile defense.
  74. scaler
    +2
    29 July 2014 11: 45
    Viva la Cuba =)
    1. slava11
      -3
      29 July 2014 12: 12
      Yes, Cuba is still an example of winners.
      1. +3
        29 July 2014 13: 35
        Quote: slava11
        Yes, Cuba is still an example of winners.
        - I completely agree with you - ONLY CUBA, being next to the USA, did not cave in under them! Germany, France study and study... bully
  75. +1
    29 July 2014 11: 58
    They will now say a lot of things, and ours could also tell something about them in response.
  76. +2
    29 July 2014 11: 58
    What did they forget, when Bush Jr. was in power, what treaties did the United States unilaterally withdraw from?
  77. Shep
    +4
    29 July 2014 11: 58
    Quote: slava11
    US military budget - 526,800,000,000
    European Union - 300
    Russia's military budget - 71,200,780,000
    You will outrun them


    There is a joke:
    about the fact that Americans spent money on a pen that would write in space. and the Russians used a pencil without spending money on it. So, the main thing is to spend wisely :)
    1. slava11
      -4
      29 July 2014 12: 13
      Excuse me, you're probably on a Russian computer right now, you're sitting on the Russian Internet, the clothes you're wearing are all Russian, you've got Putin's Lada, and so on down the list.
      1. +1
        29 July 2014 13: 04
        Quote: slava11
        Sorry, you're probably on a Russian computer right now.

        Sitting on the computer is not very comfortable, it’s a bit harsh...
        Although if you meant sitting at a computer, I can please you that 90% of all computers in Russia are of Chinese origin, and the Internet cannot be someone else’s, it is common, as the first part of this word “inter” says, and we are now in the Russian segment of this network, known only as "Runet"....
        1. slava11
          -2
          29 July 2014 13: 12
          Yeah Chinese. Well, yes. It's called Intel or something else. But it still belongs to the Americans one way or another or ours. Who created the Internet?
          1. +2
            29 July 2014 14: 17
            Quote: slava11
            Who created the Internet?

            Who created the wheel? laughing
            There are many inventions that were created by different countries for the military, but they are used by the whole world and many have already forgotten who created it....
            For example, cellular communications were invented, and the first were introduced into the national economy, in the USSR it was back in 1963 (the Altai system), and before that, in 1946, car radiotelephones with a radius of about 20 km were tested, 1958 - L.I. Kupriyanovich creates prototypes of compact mobile phones weighing only 500 g and the size of a cigarette box, 1961 - L. I. Kupriyanovich creates a prototype of a pocket mobile phone that fits in the palm, weighing 70 grams. and a communication range of 80 km. According to the inventor, this is a model “prepared for serial production at one of the Soviet enterprises.” Kupriyanovich also informs the press about plans to build 10 mobile communication base stations in Moscow, the first of which is designed in Mazilovo...
            And you are talking about the Internet, it could have remained purely military and only in the USA, but to create a worldwide network, a lot of work was put in by various enthusiasts and businessmen from all over the world, including Russia, which invested a lot in the creation and functioning of the Internet...
  78. +2
    29 July 2014 12: 06
    Tests carried out in 2008?????
    They are not only - Well, stupid...
    They are also specific giraffes. It's 2014......they came to their senses.
  79. +2
    29 July 2014 12: 08
    Quote: slava11
    US Military Budget - 526,800,000,000
    European Union - 300
    Russia's military budget - 71,200,780,000
    Will you overtake them?

    Why distill them? We'll give them a hard time anyway. And why are they increasing their military budget - because they know that RUSSIA will give them a hard time if anything happens. soldier
  80. 0
    29 July 2014 12: 09
    Tests carried out in 2008?????
    They are not only - Well, stupid...
    They are also specific giraffes. It's 2014......they came to their senses.
  81. 0
    29 July 2014 12: 09
    Tests carried out in 2008?????
    They are not only - Well, stupid...
    They are also specific giraffes. It's 2014......they came to their senses.
  82. 0
    29 July 2014 12: 10
    Tests carried out in 2008?????
    They are not only - Well, stupid...
    They are also specific giraffes. It's 2014......they came to their senses.
  83. 0
    29 July 2014 12: 13
    Something needs to be done to restrain US allies outside the NATO bloc...
  84. wladimir
    0
    29 July 2014 12: 13
    since NATO has come closer to us the length of a rifle shot, that means we need missiles that could hit Warsaw and cover others in Washington
  85. 0
    29 July 2014 12: 15
    1990 was a fateful year. Negotiations on the unification of Germany, on general disarmament, as well as preparations for the Conference on Security and Cooperation in a New Europe. For the Soviet Union, the most important of all events were meetings on the fate of the former Warsaw Wars countries, and primarily the GDR. The leadership of the USSR insisted: the condition for the withdrawal of Soviet troops and weapons from the states of Eastern Europe, and as a result, the dismantling of the Berlin Wall, can only be clear commitments from Western partners that the former Warsaw Pact countries will not join the North Atlantic Alliance. And this promise was received, moreover, from the first persons - US Secretary of State James Baker, who promised the Soviet leader that "NATO will not move east an inch"


    Free, come on!
  86. 0
    29 July 2014 12: 16
    “they carried out tests in 2008...” Well, they remembered 6 years later.
  87. shelin2010
    0
    29 July 2014 12: 31
    We need to take control of all the media, like in the states. And use the full power of propaganda, and not endlessly make excuses. But you can’t leave the UN - this is also an opportunity to convey your point of view. There are not only pro-American countries in the UN.
  88. 0
    29 July 2014 12: 32
    Look around your deserts - they’ve hidden a lot of things
  89. 0
    29 July 2014 12: 59
    America is a chained rabid dog... it's time to put it down
  90. +1
    29 July 2014 13: 02
    Isn't it time to ban this piece of shit (slava11) forever? Already got it.
    1. slava11
      +1
      29 July 2014 13: 18
      The site is strictly prohibited:

      a) mate in any form (open and veiled), swearing curses; insult and threats against the opponent;


      So where are the moderators?
    2. +5
      29 July 2014 13: 29
      In no case! It does not violate anything, and alternative opinions must be present!
    3. slava11
      -1
      29 July 2014 14: 29
      Out of arguments???? No problem!!! ... go and downvote all your opponent’s posts!
  91. 0
    29 July 2014 13: 17
    Quote: Serbor
    Isn't it time to ban this piece of shit (slava11) forever? Already got it.


    I will join hi
    1. slava11
      -3
      29 July 2014 13: 20
      Jupiter, are you angry?
      1. P-38
        +4
        29 July 2014 13: 37
        slava11, but the reaction to you, to your teasing, forms the general attitude towards Israel. The worst thing for your people is that this does not scare you.
        1. slava11
          -2
          29 July 2014 14: 24
          Well, nothing has scared us for a long time. Anti-Semites generally need only one reason for their stupid reaction - a Jew on the horizon.
  92. Shep
    +5
    29 July 2014 13: 28
    Quote: slava11
    Excuse me, you're probably on a Russian computer right now, you're sitting on the Russian Internet, the clothes you're wearing are all Russian, you've got Putin's Lada, and so on down the list.


    What does this have to do with it??????? Television, for example, was born in Tashkent, but this does not stop you from watching the zombie box there in Jewstan.
    1. slava11
      -2
      29 July 2014 14: 22
      The site is strictly prohibited:

      a) mate in any form (open and veiled), swearing curses; insult and threats against the opponent;

      Moderators, where are you?
    2. slava11
      -2
      29 July 2014 14: 27
      I learned this at school. I remember. We call it "TV". Why is it so strange for you? Zombie box?????? what
    3. slava11
      -2
      29 July 2014 14: 31
      And yet - are you personally ready right now, right here, to give up all the Western pestilence and other excesses????
  93. +3
    29 July 2014 13: 30
    We test our missiles the way we want.
  94. +5
    29 July 2014 13: 33
    Quote: Warlock_r
    ... about America
  95. Andrey82
    +2
    29 July 2014 13: 34
    The ground is being prepared for the open deployment of nuclear missiles in Poland and the Outskirts with the goal of destroying Moscow and the command centers of the Perimeter system in 5 minutes. The answer is concern, puzzlement, nothing more. It seems that all “our” rulers at hour X, when the destruction of Russia by the States begins, are counting on being away from “this country,” for example, with their children in Holland.
  96. +1
    29 July 2014 14: 08
    Each Arleigh Burke-class destroyer is armed with up to 56 BGM-109 Tomahawk Block 3 cruise missiles (with a launch range of up to 1250-1609 km in the tactical (non-nuclear version) and 2500 km in the strategic (nuclear) version. Successfully tested in 2004 (but the ships did not receive) the Tactical Tomahawk cruise missile (a modernized version of the Tomahawk, English Tactical Tomahawk Block 4).[53] I haven’t heard that the United States canceled the construction program for these ships, and they the plan is 75 units. And there are 4200 carriers, and we are against NATO with our bare bottoms. Therefore, let them send letters, further.
  97. +3
    29 July 2014 14: 17
    It’s high time to denounce everything that the spotted traitor (Gorbachev) signed, and Yeltsin’s signatures, made while drunk, and without translating documents into Russian, we also need to sort it out
  98. +1
    29 July 2014 14: 27
    From the article:
    ...could, in the opinion of the United States, be a violation of the Treaty...
    - Guys, I’m already sick of this “mattress stench.” When will they burrow in their Pentagon shit?
  99. +2
    29 July 2014 14: 44
    Now the UN is a complete reflection of the League of Nations before the Second World War. There is a lot of chatter, but little sense. When after the Second World War there was a powerful counterweight to the USSR, then it still meant something, now the UN, the Security Council, the OSCE and other organizations are just empty air. They can't do anything, but they talk a lot. This platform is needed only for propaganda and nothing more. And the testing of known missiles does not mean any violation; they are already in service and their modernization is the business of our country.
  100. Vovan - prison
    +1
    29 July 2014 15: 01
    Not really, but why do we suddenly have to go under the USA!!? What do you mean they can do lawlessness and not say a word to us in return?! Hare probably already have a look at all sorts of chukhans!!! We must do what is convenient and profitable for us!!!