About the 2.0 Iron Curtain: how it will be

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About the 2.0 Iron Curtain: how it will beHistory with the Malaysian "Boeing", whatever it may be over, it already now allows to draw certain conclusions, at least, about the goals and objectives of the United States as "leaders of the free world". In general, they are quite simple: if we consider the “interests of the free world” as the interests of the United States, then they are very similar to the “interests of the late USSR”.

In the sense that for the survival of a superpower, it absolutely needs confrontation.

It's all simple.

It is enough to listen to the speeches of our “liberal column”, which directly says that “the Iron Curtain is falling again on Russia”, “Russia is again being isolated from the whole world” - read: because of its bad behavior.

And what is characteristic: it says everything in such a way that the reader / viewer understands: we have so messed up with “the rest of the world” that we are forced, in order not to tempt our “bydlovatnikov population,” to isolate it from the world. And everything will start as in the scary stories of those who are now behind 60: OVIR, “at least a scarecrow, even a carcass, just have time to dump”, other cute little things.

Oh well. The point is not even that “the rest of the world” somehow suddenly shrinks to the size of the US territory, plus or minus some funny protectorates, successfully defending themselves against Oleg Gazmanov and Joseph Davidovich Kobzon. The matter here is somewhat different: as a matter of fact, as now, “then” the Soviet Union also did not intend to introduce any “iron curtains”.

And - did not enter.

In order to understand this, it suffices to recall the numerous “trips to Europe” of Soviet cultural figures in 20 – 30-s: even the “unprintable and persecuted” Mikhail Bulgakov asked to go abroad as something taken for granted. And all the rest, from Babel and Kataev to Mayakovsky and the re-emigrant Tolstoy, disappeared there. At that time Kobe's rather “oppositional” childhood personal friend Ilya Grigorievich Bukharin Ehrenburg did not really get out of Paris, despite all the shootings of “the enemies of the people from the Trotsky-Bukharinist bloc”.

And drove - not just writers.

Engineers went (very many, by the way, in the USA where they were actively studying), the military, just travelers (it was then, by the way, Soviet Russia was actively describing and exploring the Himalayas and Tibet) - and many people traveled.

Including numerous "workers delegations".

"Resort", however, did not go.

But even then, not because they did not allow it, but because it was at that time deprived of large-capacity Boeings, Ilov and other Airbusians, to put it mildly, a bit far and expensive for workers and peasants. You'd be surprised, the American and German hard workers didn’t go anywhere either.

As a matter of fact, the term “iron curtain” in its current interpretation was introduced by a certain W. Churchill 5 in March 1946, during the famous “Fulton speech”, when he demanded its introduction for “protection from communism”. For both communism and the Soviet Union became, according to the results of the Second World War, for the population of "developed democracies" as if they were too attractive. Although, before Churchill, there were also enough people who wanted to introduce an “iron curtain” against Soviet Russia, and not in the USSR at all. On the subject between the two world wars, a certain Georges Clemenceau formulated: “we want to put an iron curtain around Bolshevism, which will prevent it from destroying civilized Europe” (c).

Strictly speaking, it is this very practice with regard to “civilized Europe”, despite its desperate resistance and the absence of any presence of “Russian Bolshevism”, the Anglo-Saxon countries want to apply now, starting with the “information curtain”, beyond which they can talk the Malaysian "Boeing" shot down in general, anything.

History, as we know, repeats.

And most often it repeats like a farce.

... And it is not by chance that the “informational techniques” that the “free world” uses today as advanced, to any former student of the “ideological faculties”, such as the journalism department of the Moscow State University of late Soviet times, painfully resemble the lectures on the theory of party press and other “propaganda and agitation” .

Remember, maybe somebody this bearded anecdote of the times of the “minor political figure of the epoch of Alla Pugacheva” L.I. Brezhnev?

Well, about the train going to communism, when it suddenly stops?

Head of the train V.I. Lenin: "Check the party and class essence of the driver and organize a work day."

Organized, went further.

Head I.V. Stalin: "To lay the rails, the driver to shoot for sabotage."

Come on.

L.I. Brezhnev: “To send a machinist to Israel, swing a wagon, close everyone's eyes and say we are going” ...

It seems that our partners are already at the conventionally “Brezhnev” stage.
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  1. +8
    29 July 2014 14: 41
    Americans have long fenced themselves with an iron curtain, afraid of an example from the USSR ...
    1. +5
      29 July 2014 14: 56
      Mezzanine scene:
      - unipolar go home!
      - gone!
      - the curtain!

      hi
    2. +7
      29 July 2014 14: 59
      Quote: mig31
      Americans have long fenced themselves with an iron curtain, afraid of an example from the USSR ...

      They are originally fenced, live on their "island". Around the water and some "undemocratic civilizations" ...
      And from this it storms them, wedges and sausages. They cry unlucky and curse fate, on a day which is unknown, in no year.
      1. +3
        29 July 2014 15: 05
        In the days of the Iron Curtain, the world was much safer now if the curtain is there it works according to the nipple system in favor of the West!
        1. +1
          29 July 2014 16: 39
          Quote: BARKAS
          if the curtain is there it works according to the system nipple in benefitsу the west

          I don’t know what about the nipple, but it seems that it would be more accurate to put "conchitu wurst" as an example.
          More and more fun.
      2. s1н7т
        0
        29 July 2014 17: 10
        Quote: Oleg Sobol
        They are initially fenced

        They were initially frostbitten, for with impunity they killed the inhabitants of almost the whole continent!
    3. +2
      29 July 2014 16: 32
      By and large, our country with gigantic natural resources on the drum, by and large, all these iron curtains, they themselves will come to us and ask us to sell them something.
      1. 0
        29 July 2014 17: 18
        Quote: Thought Giant
        our country with gigantic natural resources on the drum, by and large, all these iron curtains

        Well, not really, if we were a billion, then yes, we could have done without them, and if you agree to isolate 140 million from 6 billion, it will be hard, their science will develop faster stupidly due to the number of brains, and access to technology it will be blocked for us, I’m generally surprised how the USSR, under severe sanctions, managed to develop all types of equipment from space to household ..
        1. 0
          29 July 2014 17: 39
          And Gifi is surprised - my Spetsstroevskaya part was building by the forces of the mountainous peoples what even today causes exorbitant amazement, not surprise.
          The best contingent was from the Baltic states or outright drug addicts. Do not be surprised - it was much easier to find a common LANGUAGE with them.
        2. 0
          29 July 2014 21: 44
          Quote: DEfindER
          Quote: Thought Giant
          our country with gigantic natural resources on the drum, by and large, all these iron curtains

          Well, not really, if we were a billion, then yes, we could have done without them, and if you agree to isolate 140 million from 6 billion, it will be hard, their science will develop faster stupidly due to the number of brains, and access to technology it will be blocked for us, I’m generally surprised how the USSR, under severe sanctions, managed to develop all types of equipment from space to household ..

          it’s very simple that people worked and didn’t do management and it was interesting for a simple worker to develop production.
        3. 0
          30 July 2014 05: 23
          Well, not really, if we were a billion, then yes, we could have done without them
          This is how to look, 240 million was enough for the Soviet Union to cost, and if it weren’t for the fifth column, it would cost further. China, even with one and a half billion, can’t do without them. As they say: who has what kind of state strategy.
          and agree to isolate 140 million from 6 billion, it will be difficult, their science will develop stupidly faster due to the number of brains, and access to technology will be blocked for us
          It’s just hard, although it’s even more impossible, to isolate Russia from the whole world. The situation has changed dramatically. Interdependence ponimash and the emerging multi-polar world.
          I’m generally surprised how the USSR, under severe sanctions, managed to develop all types of equipment from space to household ..
          You see, if you want, you can do it, you can. It turned out like in the song: head, head, smart head, but if to the head, and even dexterity, everything will turn out well and cleverly with us! wink
      2. +1
        29 July 2014 17: 57
        Are we afraid of the Iron Curtain and sanctions ?! In fact, after the collapse of the USSR, we have been living in various sanctions all the time. So an ordinary person deeply spit on all these sanctions. Well, the "unusual", deputies and others like them ...... yes, they should be, they were warned to keep the money at home.
  2. +10
    29 July 2014 14: 41
    we so messed up in front of “the rest of the world”

    this is the world in front of us.
    1. +4
      29 July 2014 14: 52
      JV Stalin is necessary for this whole world - and the order will be immediately and everywhere ..........
  3. Iero
    +10
    29 July 2014 14: 50
    Which curtain? They do not block us; they want to destroy us. And those who wanted to leave are already there.
  4. +1
    29 July 2014 14: 51
    Quote: andrei332809
    we so messed up in front of “the rest of the world”

    this is the world in front of us.


    and should in life
  5. -1
    29 July 2014 14: 51
    The curtain was still ... You’ll get a fig with two tickets to the west ... Now it’s easier, I got a visa (if necessary), bought a ticket and went wherever you want.
    1. +8
      29 July 2014 16: 05
      Quote: Roman1970
      The curtain was still ... You’ll get a fig with two tickets to the west ... Now it’s easier, I got a visa (if necessary), bought a ticket and went wherever you want.

      And what to do there?! What is there that we don’t have?! Fagots?! So much for the zones. Free love?! On Tverskaya. And whoever goes there with his soul is good for health, bring it down, we better. And scare us than useless, scared.
    2. Stalin8175
      0
      29 July 2014 16: 46
      in this way, much more capital is exported from Russia than by financial speculators. And there were vouchers, but not for everyone, but they didn’t say anything bad about the Russians, since they behaved very decently there. And now, with the Internet, the fifth column is nowhere to go.
  6. +10
    29 July 2014 14: 53
    I would be the 5th column, I cut everyone into belts ... am

    PS (I have no relation to the death of Novodvorskaya hi )
    1. Vitalka
      +3
      29 July 2014 15: 04
      PS (I have no relation to the death of Novodvorskaya

      But in vain! Everybody was cowardly and let this toad die
      1. +2
        29 July 2014 15: 35
        PS (I have no relation to the death of Novodvorskaya
        But in vain! Everybody was cowardly and let this toad die

        About the dead or good, or nothing. T.K. there is nothing good to say, I propose to remain silent about this person, so that her memory generally disappears from the minds. There was such an execution among the ancient Greeks, in my opinion. It was called, to oblivion.
  7. +5
    29 July 2014 14: 53
    Recent actions from the amers (there is no need to list) suggests that Finkinton is in an exceptional perplexity. Yes
    1. Stalin8175
      0
      29 July 2014 16: 50
      check the course of dolets and eureka. Wash it lightly, and maybe not slightly, storms us. There is no confusion whatsoever. Do not wishful thinking. More and more Europeans are already merging us and are ready to take new sanctions in accordance with the will of the star-striped gendarme.
      1. 0
        29 July 2014 17: 54
        Check it out. More Europeans are only in your imagination. And sanctions are biting yourself for testicles. They will not succeed themselves, but it’s a shame to call for help.
        Russia needs Europe as a piece of soap to the drowned man.
  8. +2
    29 July 2014 14: 55
    What kind of delusional wording are the partners? I think that it should be abandoned! Or specify - partners in which business? Saw Ukraine?
    1. Stalin8175
      0
      29 July 2014 16: 53
      this is a manifestation of diplomatic tolerance. But the partner clearly understands that he was called a fallen woman with the letter B and an eccentric with the letter M. There is nothing to be done.
  9. APS
    +1
    29 July 2014 14: 56
    Everything secret always comes true.
  10. fisherman
    +12
    29 July 2014 14: 56
    Russia has everything necessary for functioning as a state, it is capable of living independently, having the ability to produce everything that it needs to exist. And the West faces the loss of the markets of Russia, and in the future, Asia, if the Russian Federation and the PRC lead a coordinated economic policy.

    So, the iron curtain for Russia is a myth. There will be no curtain, no isolation of Russia. Russia is not Iraq, not Iran. By the way, sanctions are not so successful against the latter. And they will not act against Russia even more so. Sanctions threaten only the capital of a part of the oligarchs and those corrupt officials who transferred their funds to the West. Sanctions are dangerous for those businessmen who withdraw their funds to the West. The vast majority of the population from Western sanctions is neither hot nor cold. But the consequences for the West may be the most dire.

    Russia behind the scenes and so was in sanctions. The ban on the sale of highly technological goods and technologies. Restrictions on trade in goods from Russia. And how many sticks in the wheels were put under different sauce when entering the WTO? And now to frighten Russia that there will be some other sanctions is practically useless. Russia will live without the West. But will the West live without Russia?

    Long live the sanctions as the engine of Russian progress!
    1. Fin
      +2
      29 July 2014 15: 41
      Quote: fisherman
      there will be no isolation of Russia.

      Insulating tape is not enough, it is produced in China. And the Chinese are not our enemies.
    2. +4
      29 July 2014 16: 09
      Quote: fisherman
      So, the iron curtain for Russia is a myth. There will be no curtain, no isolation of Russia.

      I agree with this thesis and hereinafter. smile
      Maybe the losses of our market for the West will not be fatal, but some of their "enterprises", designed mainly for the consumer, will definitely suffer significant damage. We can do without conventional sneakers and Coca-Cola, and they did not offer us anything more sensible. All high-tech industries, patents, technical documentation for various know-how, as far away from us thirty years ago, are also far away now. In the field of creating all kinds of laptops and tablets, we both lagged behind and lag behind - there is no practical benefit from the openness of our market and economic cooperation with the West, except that we regularly send money there. Well, we will drive Chinese cars instead of Japanese cars. The money will go to China, that's the only difference. Or maybe we'll learn to do it ourselves - that would be a benefit.
      So there is no need to scare us with the iron curtain. Personally, I’m not at all afraid smile
    3. Stalin8175
      +2
      29 July 2014 16: 58
      here is no need for hatred. Sanctions can leave us without gold reserves, production can only be delivered in decades, and high-tech civilian industry will last even longer. Yes, the whole world that surrounds you daily consists of 70-90% of imports. So, there is no special reason for optimism. And Harvard boys and grab-breeders-just dumped at the place of registration of grandmothers and, as always, ordinary people will pay for the quarter-century relaxation and abandonment of the state.
      1. 0
        29 July 2014 17: 15
        I do not notice 70-90% of imports. Everything that I eat and drink is Russian. Russian hydropyrite was poured into the pool, instead of foreign chlorine tablets. Russian-made cars. Telpanels are from Kaliningrad. Sonya - I repent, Chinese, like a whole cloud of other devices.
        PS Oh! The camera and glass for it from Japan ...
        1. Stalin8175
          +2
          29 July 2014 17: 27
          Made in Russia - does not mean that the goods are Russian.
          1. 0
            29 July 2014 18: 05
            As is done in the USA.
            I have written on my pants - pEndosTTan, but it turns out - Honduras.
          2. +1
            29 July 2014 18: 12
            Eggs-milk-meat-bread from Saratov back streets. You have not seen local cows, sheep and goats - I am afraid to approach them, they are so well-fed. Chickens carry eggs of such a size that an egg with a paw can only lick its lips from powerlessness to take them inside ...
  11. 0
    29 July 2014 14: 58
    Yes, the analogies with the late USSR are simply amazing. For example, in cinematography: in the USSR they filmed not as it was, but as it should have been under socialism (for example, the film "Kuban Cossacks"). In Hollywood, they shoot not as it is, but as it should be in a developed American democracy with the most careful concealment of all the bad and the protrusion of not good, but of what should be considered good (for example, the film "Eraser" with Schwazenegger).
    Conclusion: the USA is taking leaps and bounds along the path of the USSR. Apparently this is the law of nature.
    1. 0
      30 July 2014 18: 38
      And what in "Kuban Cossacks" angered you? And she does not resent in today's crafts, where a village girl becomes a princess.
  12. +2
    29 July 2014 14: 59
    There are much more of us "cattle" than liberals, why should we listen to all sorts of "Makaronychev" nonsense?
  13. +2
    29 July 2014 14: 59
    The United States, together with Europe, has long resembled the USSR in the 80s.
    1. Stalin8175
      0
      29 July 2014 17: 02
      but the trouble is, they won’t fall apart. Hang in the 80s and neither who nor the mu. For about 15 years, Dolts has been buried with the United States, and they all stand and use the funeral team in full. Not everything that is pleasant to write is true.
  14. +1
    29 July 2014 14: 59
    Honestly, everything seemed to open my eyes. Russia has always been and will be a bone in the throat of the Anglo-Saxons.
    Do not be buggy about the "enlightened west". Technologies, yes, the West is rich in them, everything else is a big question.
    Russia has only one ally - this is its army and navy. (Words not mine in my opinion one of the Russian emperors said)
    1. Berezin alex
      -1
      29 July 2014 15: 05
      Still have the Air Force and Strategic Missile Forces
    2. Vitalka
      -1
      29 July 2014 15: 06
      Russia has only one ally - this is its army and navy. (Words not mine in my opinion one of the Russian emperors said)
      Russia has TWO allies - the army and navy!
      And Fashington must be destroyed!
  15. 0
    29 July 2014 15: 00
    The United States must be destroyed, and at the same time uproot their double standards, the ideas of false humanism and, most importantly, American fascism !!! But for this, Russia alone needs the insight of all mankind, in the understanding that the life of any person on Earth, regardless of skin color or religion, country of residence, has the same value as the life of a white gentleman who speaks English !!! Fascism in people reveals the most cruel side, the denial of the divine nature of life !!!
  16. +4
    29 July 2014 15: 03
    As a result of the poll to the question "How to respond to Western sanctions against Russia?" received the following answers: - SEND TO ... - 43%, SEND TO ... - 31%, SEND TO ... - 17%, another 9% have not decided where to send.
  17. 0
    29 July 2014 15: 05
    Well, to hell with the Curtain, the Iron Curtain, will be primarily for the West .. They will break off ties and let .. it will be worse ..
  18. 0
    29 July 2014 15: 08
    Life has become more fun, life has become more interesting! - Who, after all, will be dipped in kaku, and who will be white and fluffy ... Fun and frost on the skin.
  19. 0
    29 July 2014 15: 11
    It seems that our partners are already at the conventionally “Brezhnev” stage.

    Good analogy, I agree.
  20. melnik
    0
    29 July 2014 15: 12
    Sanctions promotion results will be visible pretty soon. Of course, all of Russia at once will not be covered by factories, but the trend, it is immediately evident. If not, if it goes on, the office and security guards dreaming, I will buy a huge bouquet of roses and take it to the grave of I.V. Stalin. And I’ll enter for a start, a volunteer in the Communist Party. All his life he was a convinced monarchist.
    1. Stalin8175
      -1
      29 July 2014 17: 05
      the current Communist Party-this is what Comrade Stalin uprooted. It’s really worth laying flowers at his monument, but it’s unrealistic. For 15 years, I could not get further than the Mausoleum.
      1. 0
        29 July 2014 17: 21
        Why? belay
        They don’t pour it into the mausoleum ...
        1. Stalin8175
          -1
          29 July 2014 17: 29
          Because they do not want people to admit to his grave. The queue will be too revealing.
          1. 0
            30 July 2014 18: 41
            Pass the mausoleum and go straight to the grave of Stalin. I will carefully ask - Have you been to Moscow?
  21. 0
    29 July 2014 15: 13
    Yes, everything is sometimes good, but not so good. Everything that is going on now from jokes about Nikolai-ala-14 a year or earlier .. It’s not necessary to attribute all these ismos here to all sorts of isms. Everything is much simpler. Russia, that under the kings, that under ism has always been a bone in the throat of Westerners and Europe, but also of America. So the onalog of the 1st world threatens us. Sales markets-resources-labor-ambition. One Arctic is worth it. So you won’t get bored. Just brush it off. What are Lavrov and Putin doing now.
  22. +2
    29 July 2014 15: 15
    The history of the Iron Curtain and its co-founders is written, but how it will be in version 2.0 is not fully described.
    I will add on my own: to great joy, the Western world has ceased to be the entire "civilized world". If earlier they knew about this only in the USSR, now they are beginning to guess in another dozen 3 countries around the planet. Most importantly, these countries include such economic giants as China, India, Russia, Brazil - in short, BRICS. South Africa is still not a giant, although everything in the future may be.
    Consequently, there can be no talk of any isolation. It will not be easy, it is a fact. yet we are strongly dependent on relations with the West. But after "polishing" and "hardening" of the sanctions, the output will be a very durable "product", focused primarily on the domestic market and well-being in general. The main thing is to suppress the traitors inside the country. Incidentally, it is the sanctions that will help in this. first of all, plumes will fly to those who are most connected with the west.

    The saddest thing is that the enemy will use our friends (albeit zombied) like Ukraine to destabilize. Provocations will be excessive.

    The main thing is to be patient, not succumb to provocations, act on the mistakes of the enemy. At this moment, time is on our side. And we are not alone, just as always, Russia is at the forefront - the tip of the sword.
    People are already fed up with democracy, human rights and other nonsense!
    1. 0
      29 July 2014 15: 33
      but how will it be in version 2.0 is not fully described

      This is rightly seen. I don’t even rate the article, because it is essentially the preface to an unpublished article. Type, guess and add yourself ...
  23. nvb
    nvb
    +2
    29 July 2014 15: 15
    A normal, honest, Russian person has one citizenship and contributions according to citizenship are in their homeland, that is, in Russia. And he should .. that in Cyprus, in America or elsewhere they impose any sanctions against Russians. And double, triple citizenships it’s necessary to cancel. Mother, like Motherland, should be alone. And it’s time for us to introduce the iron curtain so that a smaller stupid pid doesn’t work for us, otherwise it’s fie wow ..
  24. 0
    29 July 2014 15: 18
    They did not describe how it will be, I assumed it was forbidden to travel to Turkey :-)
    1. 0
      29 July 2014 16: 40
      Until they are forbidden ... it happened without a visa to travel across Europe to our soldier ... But how will he set off on a journey again? We didn’t reach Lisbon last time, but I wanted to look at the Atlantic ...
  25. 0
    29 July 2014 15: 32
    Quote: Vitalka
    Russia has only one ally - this is its army and navy. (Words not mine in my opinion one of the Russian emperors said)
    Russia has TWO allies - the army and navy!
    And Fashington must be destroyed!

    These are the words of our only real Empress Catherine the Great. Gold words
    1. Stalin8175
      0
      29 July 2014 17: 09
      And here it is not - these are the words of Alexander III, the unfamiliar and unappreciated Emperor of the All-Russian.
  26. +1
    29 July 2014 15: 37
    Do we still have those who declare a "bright capitalist future" as soon as we get rid of the USSR? For me personally, and I think for millions of sane, there is no difference Russian Empire-USSR-Russia

    This is all mine!
    This is my motherland!
    I love all in the world!
  27. +1
    29 July 2014 15: 59
    Quote: aleks_29296
    PS (I have no relation to the death of Novodvorskaya
    But in vain! Everybody was cowardly and let this toad die

    About the dead or good, or nothing. T.K. there is nothing good to say, I propose to remain silent about this person, so that her memory generally disappears from the minds. There was such an execution among the ancient Greeks, in my opinion. It was called, to oblivion.


    Too humane, tired of almonds, excuse me!
  28. 0
    29 July 2014 16: 30
    And no one forced these hamadril to raise it.
    They had time for the final collapse of Russia from 1990 to 2008. Outraged with fear. And now tryndets. Even to the offspring of cook children (nouveau riche-oligarchs) it begins to come down - without a strong state behind them, in this world they dandruff ... naya.
    Back in the 90s, I said that the West would bitterly regret the removal of the Iron Curtain.
    Foreign (European) people in any case will ripen to the fact that they are controlled by "rabbit-like" entities that do not represent a nichrome of themselves - rulers who are sick to the head do not live long.
    Therefore, stock up on popcorn and watch the performance. It will last 3 years, I think.
    1. Stalin8175
      0
      29 July 2014 17: 12
      For popcorn, Russia must be protected by the ocean. Unfortunately, we will not be spectators, but we will star in the film with an unpredictable ending.
  29. Protos
    0
    29 July 2014 16: 35
    The words of L. Tolstoy: "You read, praise. If you think about it, you scolded" So this article. About what? Everything seems to be correct. And no truth. 1. Author - America needs confrontation - the essence is something else: America is a terrorist exploiter of the rest of the world, a bankrupt defending its interests with a huge army. 2. The author distanced himself from the 5th column - I am for. But, isn't it too frivolous to talk about the centuries-old confrontation between Russia and the Atlanticists? And so with everything. Lightweight. And about Bulgakov and the trip is a lie. OVIR something to do with? In an old anecdote, no one sent them to Israel. In real life, they were not released. Do you want to run between the lines? They scolded, after all ...
  30. +1
    29 July 2014 16: 41
    ... as in the terrible stories of those who are now over 60 ...
    ... our partners are already at the conditionally "Brezhnev" stage ...

    ____________________________
    I am over 60 and I would not make mockery of Leonid Ilyich, thanks to whom modern Russia has the opportunity to pursue a fairly independent policy. For it was Marshal of the USSR Brezhnev who "pushed through" the deal "gas in exchange for pipes" and put Europe in a position dependent on us.
  31. +1
    29 July 2014 16: 54
    Something I began to yearn for the curtain. And then somehow it became uncomfortable. Some of them take money and resources from here, others drag pederasty here.
  32. +1
    29 July 2014 17: 04
    Well, for someone we have an "iron curtain" - this is, of course, tin! Grandmothers from education, CIA staff in the media, double agents, holders of all kinds of shares, mistresses and real estate in Europe and the United States, the travel industry aimed at visiting NATO countries.
    And what will the bulk of the citizens of our country lose from this?
    We will take foreign chain stores into Russian management. There are still goods from China by 99%. Naturally, all the foreigners working there (senior staff, accustomed to a good life in Russia) will go home.
    Our industry will raise its head. Defense industries will flourish. Agriculture will rise because Spanish tomatoes with the taste of plantain and Polish potatoes with late blight are tired of everything.
    Most problems will be with cars. Luxury sucks in, but at first nobody feels anything, and then, it’s just my hopes, of course, we will start to make our own good and affordable ones. And do not forget that there are still Koreans, Uzbeks, Chinese, and we have the best trucks.
    Computers and software. Here at the riffraff from the West the real gimor will begin, because for a long time what is needed is produced domestically. And no war on "piracy". We take ours. Internet servers should only be under the control of Russia and preferably on its territory.
    Further. Tryndets will come to our unsystematic 5-th opposition. They envy the mistress here often mentioned. The US Embassy should consider organizing for them free lunch on holidays or something.
    Something like this. I put the article +.
    1. 0
      29 July 2014 17: 22
      Quote: 1536
      because it has long been that what is needed is produced domestically.

      If the country is called China, then yes
    2. Stalin8175
      +1
      29 July 2014 17: 22
      beautiful - but a fairy tale. For their vegetables, it is not necessary to send Spaniards with Poles, but to change the access system to the shelves, put up corrupt bureaucrats and businessmen against the wall and create a state order system in agriculture and an effective system for saving and delivering products. Take the network is not a problem - but what to sell in them? As for the industry - it is NOT! Understand that those remnants of the industrial power of the USSR are drowned out by the lack of components, technological solutions and professional workers. Computers and software - this is a fantastic gimor for Russia, and pirated use does not change anything - you need your own. Develop, test, pilot and implement with retraining of the whole country. Can you imagine how much it all costs money, resources, brains, strengths and most importantly TIME?
  33. pahom54
    -1
    29 July 2014 17: 10
    On the hypothesis of the introduction of the Iron Curtain, I would like to say: A US FOR !!! And we are not afraid of anything !!!
  34. 0
    29 July 2014 17: 16
    Quote: extremall
    Quote: Vitalka
    Russia has only one ally - this is its army and navy. (Words not mine in my opinion one of the Russian emperors said)
    Russia has TWO allies - the army and navy!
    And Fashington must be destroyed!

    These are the words of our only real Empress Catherine the Great. Gold words

    This is Alexander III !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  35. 0
    29 July 2014 17: 31
    when it was reported to Alexander III that a European ambassador insisted that he be immediately received, he replied: "When the Russian tsar is fishing, Europe can wait" ...
    PS Aleksanr the third - the founder of my office. In a welcome telegram about the foundation, Sasha signed. I adore him only for this already.
  36. Grandfather Victor
    +1
    29 July 2014 17: 47
    "And everything will start, as in the terrible stories of those who are now over 60: OVIR," even a stuffed animal, even a carcass, just have time to dump. "
    Draw up lists of members of the "fifth column" and invite them to leave Russia within XNUMX hours.
    Conditions: 1) transfer of all foreign deposits and property to the jurisdiction of Russia; 2) confiscation of all property in Russia in favor of the state; 3) underpants, and women and bras can be left.
    In case of disagreement: resettlement at the expense of the state in the Magadan region to a controlled life-long settlement.
  37. +1
    29 July 2014 22: 49
    Yes, there will be no "iron curtain" even if mattress covers really want. The time is not right. We have developed a cult when some come up with moronic prohibitions, while others find an opportunity to get around them. Many things will be purchased through third countries or fly-by-night firms. They cannot understand it with their brains.

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