The US Congress will consider a proposal to recognize Ukraine as a military ally

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The House of Representatives of the US Congress received a bill prepared by ten congressmen from both parties, in which it is proposed to provide military support to the Ukrainian authorities, reports lenta.ru with reference to the press service of one of the authors of the draft Republican Jim Gerlak, representing the state of Pennsylvania.



“The evidence provided by the American and Ukrainian intelligence services leaves no doubt that the separatists and hired thugs armed with high-tech Russian weapons, carry chaos and instability. The bipartisan bill that we have introduced today is another important step proving the intention of the United States to help our Ukrainian allies in the establishment of Ukraine as a fully-fledged democratic state. ”
states congressman.

According to the document, Ukraine should be recognized as the main ally of the United States outside the NATO bloc in order to provide it with "NATO security guarantees." According to the authors of the bill, Russia is the aggressor in the armed conflict in the south-east of Ukraine, and Russian leader Vladimir Putin does not want to use his influence to peacefully resolve the situation in the region.

The congressman’s press service also notes that the bill was supported by the Ukrainian lobby.

Earlier, Poroshenko said that Kiev intends to ask Washington to give Ukraine the status of a major ally outside NATO.
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    1. +25
      28 July 2014 14: 39
      Yeah !!! A good bottomless barrel for washing and cutting taxpayer dough !!
      1. Vik.Tor
        +12
        28 July 2014 14: 44
        These bastards just do nothing, they are plotting insidious.
        1. +8
          28 July 2014 14: 46
          Quote: Vik.Tor
          insidious plot.
          Business, business, and again business, and nothing more, for each cartridge from Ukraine will be exacted ...
        2. +19
          28 July 2014 15: 11
          Quote: Vik.Tor
          These bastards just do nothing, they are plotting insidious.

          Everything is old as the world - to dismember and destroy. The ingenious plan is to tear off a piece of Russian land, raise orcs from the population and throw in a fratricidal slaughter. The plan has been implemented since the collapse of the USSR by the hands of traitors.
          On the one hand, the United States provokes the Russian Federation to hostilities in Ukraine, on the other hand, they are afraid of its reunification with Russia, just like fire.
          1. +9
            28 July 2014 16: 35
            On the one hand, the United States provokes the Russian Federation to hostilities in Ukraine, on the other hand, they are afraid of its reunification with Russia, just like fire.

            And on the third side - THE REGION'S POSITION IS SO DIFFICULT THAT THE RESCUE CIRCUM IS DROPING AGAINST ALL THE LEGAL CANONS OF INTERNATIONAL LAW!
            It’s painfully invested a lot ... it’s even more expected to get to go aside and let the bandertarakans scatter across all the cracks ...
            Failures in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Egypt, Libya ... how much more can you get slaps ... and so the whole world laughs at the awkwardness and inconsistency of an ELEPHANT IN A DISH STORE ... And if also about Krajina ... , then there will be a "haply" to the image of the Amer ... even the penguins will stop reckoning with them ...
            1. +3
              28 July 2014 18: 16
              [quote = KazaK Bo] [quote]
              Failures in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Egypt, Libya ... how much more can you get slaps ... and so the whole world laughs at the awkwardness and inconsistency of an ELEPHANT IN A DISH STORE ... And if also about Krajina ... , then there will absolutely be a "haply" to the image of the Amer ... even the penguins will stop reckoning with them .... [/ quote]
              Perhaps only we understand who the elephant is in the jurisdictional shop. And the rest of the world ... At a minimum, is eyeing and trying on. And more and more to us, if not paradoxically!
            2. 0
              28 July 2014 20: 07
              Quote: KazaK Bo
              KRAINA'S POSITION IS SO DIFFICULT THAT THERE IS A RESCUE CIRCUM THROWING THROUGH ALL LEGAL CANONS OF INTERNATIONAL LEGISLATION!

              Which contrary to HUMAN standards - I agree.
              But what kind of "lifeline" is there? It's more like aiming throw with a brick at the head of a choking swimmer ...
              What is meant by the word "rescue" when it is planned to conduct full-scale databases on the territory of any state. Well, as a last resort, use it as a springboard for the offensive.

              "Your Poles helped you son ..." (c) ...
              What "circle" did the Americans throw into Afghanistan, Libya, Iraq? It's the same with the Outskirts ...
              All political analysts are already saying - "Now the only thing that is holding back the full military assistance to Ukraine from the USA is its attitude to the bloc, like" from the side-burn. "
              There will be associate membership - expect not only military bases, albeit in the remaining Kueva-controlled areas, but also a full and active push towards Russia.
              And there the bandits from overseas will not remain on the sidelines. Help on the most indulge ...
              Yesterday the news said. In Germany, at the end of last week, a lot of publications and polls appeared in the media, in which they carefully ascertained the attitude of the Germans to how they would react to the "need" of the Bundeswehr to keep the database on in any countries, incl. and In Europe ...
              Guess what was meant?

              Americans themselves will not fight, as seen in Afghanistan, for example. For them, they will do it * shi ...
              1. -1
                28 July 2014 20: 24
                Quote: Ptah
                the Americans themselves will not fight, as is evident in Afghanistan, for example. For them, they will do it * shi ..

                Would you like to hear specific proposals besides other people's quotes and insults to our "partners"?
                1. 0
                  28 July 2014 20: 27
                  1. "Others' quotes" - what's this? And where?
                  2. Did you not like that I "insulted" someone? Mostly "partners" ...
                  3. "Specific proposals" - this is about ...
                  what hi
                  1. 0
                    28 July 2014 20: 30
                    Quote: Ptah
                    1. "Others' quotes" - what's this? And where?

                    This is the first
                    Quote: Ptah
                    "Your Poles helped you son ..." (c) ...

                    Quote: Ptah
                    2. Did you not like that I "insulted" someone? Mostly "partners" ...

                    I am just stating.
                    Quote: Ptah
                    3. "Specific proposals" - this is about ...

                    Regarding the topic of the article. hi
                    1. +1
                      28 July 2014 23: 30
                      "Someone else's quotes"?
                      Well, it is customary to denote them by the symbol - (c), which means "copy". You don't think this is some kind of violation, do you?
                      Quote: ATATA
                      "Specific proposals" About the topic of the article.

                      Sorry, but you expect a lot from me. I have the wrong age, the wrong position and the wrong duties to make OFFERS in such complicated situations ... request

                      And I already expressed my OPINION three months ago. And then I asked everyone a question, which for some reason caused many bewilderment and misunderstanding.
                      Here it is:
                      "And why, at the referendums in the DPR and LPR, when the decision was made to create SEPARATE republics from Kiev, the poll ON INCLUSION OF THE RF was not conducted?"
                      Here ...
                      I think you understand why I asked this. hi
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        4. +1
          28 July 2014 15: 18
          And who said it was just like that ???
          This is another bucket of gasoline in the fire of war in Ukraine.
        5. +2
          28 July 2014 16: 00
          It will be necessary to carefully consider our response to the machinations of mattresses, it is time to change the position of an outside observer to the active, tough position of the world leader, which Russia is still.
        6. +3
          28 July 2014 16: 25
          Recognition of Ukraine as a military ally will allow the United States to supply Ukraine with weapons.
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        8. +9
          28 July 2014 17: 24
          How so. Our homeland has acted before!

          Look you will not regret hi
      2. +4
        28 July 2014 14: 44
        In the course of August, the default is canceled. It’s sad.
        1. +8
          28 July 2014 14: 48
          Quote: ℳy ℒiƒℯ
          In the course of the August default is canceled.

          Not in any way ... "Promising is not yet getting married"
        2. +3
          28 July 2014 15: 36
          Quote: y ℒiƒℯ
          In the course of August, the default is canceled. It’s sad.

          Of course canceled !!! There will be something worse! Their life will become better and their life will be more fun !! Horse racing from frost to us .. car and new cottages to the generals and infusions in the bill to the oligarch and the government !!! And the people will ride on the Maidan from cold and hunger and pay for this banquet !!
      3. +1
        28 July 2014 14: 48
        Quote: rasputin17
        Yeah !!! A good bottomless barrel for washing and cutting taxpayer dough !!

        For your information, in Ukraine, the USA, after the defeat of the Novorossiya militia, will earn money by extracting shale gas in the Donbass and supplying it through gas pipelines to the EU.
        And Russia will find solace in Christian peace and not opposing evil with violence.
        1. +16
          28 July 2014 14: 54
          Quote: ATATA
          For your information, in Ukraine, the USA after the defeat of the militia of New Russia

          You first defeat, then build plans.
          1. +23
            28 July 2014 15: 01
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Quote: ATATA
            For your information, in Ukraine, the USA after the defeat of the militia of New Russia

            You first defeat, then build plans.

            Your replica is not at the address.
            It’s not me who is thundering, and not I am making plans.
            But in fact you have to be realistic.
            Like living in a fantasy live in it on health.
            And why are you poking me?
            ps
            By the way, Alexander, as a site moderator, do not tell me how so many 2-, 3-month-old marshals who speak with slogans appeared on the site?
            1. +5
              28 July 2014 15: 16
              Quote: ATATA
              But in fact you have to be realistic.

              When the Germans stood in 1941, 26 km from Moscow, the realists also wrote that ALL was a scribe to Moscow.
              Quote: ATATA
              And why are you poking me?

              Yes, because I’ve been reading you for 2 years and I know how tired of sticking out, like you, I was offended.
              Quote: ATATA
              where did so many 2, 3-month-old marshals who speak with slogans come from?

              Some of them managed to write 1500 patriotic comments a month, like an URA for everything and in all topics. Because it’s not surprising, just hit the keys and no fraud.
              1. +9
                28 July 2014 15: 23
                Some of them managed to write 1500 patriotic comments a month later, like URA everything and in all topics


                That's for sure. One of these is portoc65 with portuguese flag.
                Since June, I have scribbled 1500 comments like "get a fascist a grenade", and already a marshal.
                1. +5
                  28 July 2014 15: 46
                  Is that the one with the bull terrier? If he is, then yes, he is still a fighter ....
                2. +2
                  29 July 2014 14: 13
                  Quote: y ℒiƒℯ
                  Some of them managed to write 1500 patriotic comments a month later, like URA everything and in all topics


                  That's for sure. One of these is portoc65 with portuguese flag.
                  Since June, I have scribbled 1500 comments like "get a fascist a grenade", and already a marshal.

                  Oh don't touch protoc65! He is not a sung song at all ...))). Perpetual motion machine. His performance is prohibitive !!! He doesn’t eat, doesn’t sleep, doesn’t go to the toilet ... And so for two months ... I already adore him !!!
              2. +28
                28 July 2014 15: 31
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                When the Germans stood in 1941, 26 km from Moscow, the realists also wrote that ALL was a scribe to Moscow.

                at 41, when the Germans stood near Moscow, the defenders had another 9 km behind them, all industry and allies.
                The Novorossians have several tens of kilometers behind them and no obvious allies.
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Yes, because I’ve been reading you for 2 years and I know how tired of sticking out, like you, I was offended.

                Your post formulation was not pleasant, is it really not clear?
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Some of them managed to write 1500 patriotic comments a month, like an URA for everything and in all topics. Because it’s not surprising, just hit the keys and no fraud.

                Alexander, I’m afraid that if you and your colleagues, the moderators don’t urgently order these nursery marshals, then thinking people will leave the site.
                Because reading slogans is not interesting, but there’s nothing to argue about. hi
                1. +5
                  28 July 2014 15: 48
                  From rank and file to turnips.
                  PS Do not consider it a frivolous ....
                2. +11
                  28 July 2014 17: 50
                  Quote: ATATA
                  Alexander, I’m afraid that if you and your colleagues, the moderators don’t urgently order these nursery marshals, then thinking people will leave the site.
                  Because reading slogans is not interesting, but there’s nothing to argue about.

                  These "marshals" are made by those who like them. I personally always minus propagandists. When I see another hurray-patriotic vyser, like: "DEATH TO GEYROPE DEATH TO FASHINGTON FOR STALIN !! AAAAAAAAAAA !!!!", I immediately put a minus. Which is what I advise you.
                  1. +4
                    28 July 2014 22: 18
                    ℳy ℒiƒℯ
                    ... portoc65 with a Portuguese flag. Since June, I have scribbled 1500 comments like "get a fascist a grenade", and already a marshal.

                    Tor hummer
                    These "marshals" are made by those who like them. I personally always minus the propagandists.

                    I clashed lightly somehow with this "marshal". So he "took revenge" on me, putting his minus against 5 pluses. And the likes of these "marshals" are given the same early maturity who sometimes, without even reading the article, not to mention delving into its essence, throw the same patriotic slogan into everything. I don’t minus them, but I don’t put pros either.
                    1. +3
                      28 July 2014 22: 37
                      Quote: AQUARIUS 65
                      I clashed lightly somehow with this "marshal". So he "took revenge" on me, putting his minus against 5 pluses.

                      Actually, I didn’t clash, I just said that we should indicate the source when quoting, and not appropriate the thoughts of others! The result is the same, since as soon as I notice such immediately minus! By the way, when they publish not slogans, but something on their own ... just a set of words without the presence of thought!
        2. +4
          28 July 2014 15: 15
          Why such confidence about the rout of the militia and the comfort of Russia?
          Or is it your dreams?
          1. +9
            28 July 2014 15: 20
            Quote: Dalmatia
            Why such confidence about the rout of the militia and the comfort of Russia?
            Or is it your dreams?

            This is not certainty, this is an assumption that proceeds from the current trend towards a slow but widespread retreat of the forces of New Russia along the front line.
            Or do you have information about the advance of the forces of New Russia?
            Share, I will rejoice with everyone.
            1. -13
              28 July 2014 15: 22
              I doubt very much that you will be pleased with the information about the advance of the forces of New Russia.
              1. dmb
                +8
                28 July 2014 15: 53
                Sorry for interfering. Madam, recently appearing on the site you have aroused respect with your curiosity. Do not spoil the impression of yourself, following the example of low-quality commentators who, instead of arguments, stick labels and evaluate opponents according to the principle: "Well, I don't like him."
                1. +5
                  28 July 2014 18: 52
                  As you rightly pointed out, I really recently registered on the site, and therefore I do not know "who is who". I read the comments and do not pass on the identity of their authors. I really didn’t like the tone and the phrase “after the defeat of the Novorossiya militia”. Why I didn't like it, for obvious reasons, I won't explain. During the week of staying on your site, there was a feeling that there are some clans here, and if you don't like something, they rush in a flock at one. Let's close this topic, I think that your colleague "ATATA" is able to stand up for himself)))
                  1. dmb
                    +2
                    28 July 2014 21: 26
                    I am not against closing the topic, and I have no doubt in my colleague’s ability to stand up for myself. By the way, he and I do not like this phrase, but it reflects an objective state of affairs. And you, without giving any arguments, this is a statement of the refuting, in fact, accused your colleague of loyalty to Kiev. I did not like your tone and phrase, and, unlike you, I explain why.
              2. 0
                28 July 2014 16: 50
                Quote: Dalmatia
                I doubt very much that you will be pleased with the information about the advance of the forces of New Russia.

                And with what your doubts are connected, justify please.
                1. +1
                  28 July 2014 18: 35
                  Doubts arose after reading the phrase - "after the defeat of the militia of Novorossiya".
                  1. 0
                    28 July 2014 19: 07
                    Quote: Dalmatia
                    Doubts arose after reading the phrase - "after the defeat of the militia of Novorossiya".

                    So what?
                    What conclusion have you drawn from this?
                    I still do not understand your logic. request
                    This is a site where you can express your thoughts, I am not interested in a simple reprint of slogans.
                    1. +2
                      28 July 2014 19: 10
                      ATATA (4) SU  Today, 19: 07I'm still your logic is not clear


                      ,,, there is not logic, but feelings what
                    2. +4
                      28 July 2014 19: 17
                      The conclusion was made not by one phrase, but by three comments.

                      1. "after the defeat of the Novorossiya militia"
                      2. "What about Saur-Tomb?"
                      3. "The second day there are no reports from him.
                      Is he alive? "
                      1. -1
                        28 July 2014 19: 26
                        Quote: Dalmatia
                        The conclusion was made not by one phrase, but by three comments.

                        1. "after the defeat of the Novorossiya militia"
                        2. "What about Saur-Tomb?"
                        3. "The second day there are no reports from him.
                        Is he alive? "

                        So what?
                        When I see unbridled optimism, I can conclude that a person is either mentally incomplete or a local careerist who receives likes on this site by pouring sweets into his ears.
                        And if a person asks questions, thinks, expresses independent thinking, why does this alarm you?
                        ps
                        Why not ask about Saur-Grave?
                        ps.sp.s
                        And yet, what about Saur-Mogila, what was it impossible to even ask about her?
                        1. +3
                          28 July 2014 19: 34
                          I read the comments very carefully, but did not see on the thread, as you put it, "unbridled optimism."
                          Now the answer to your question.
                          Nothing worries me.
                          I do not like your sarcasm against the militia and Strelkov.
                          I hope I answered your question.
                        2. +4
                          28 July 2014 19: 38
                          Quote: Dalmatia
                          I do not like your sarcasm against the militia and Strelkov.

                          You are looking for a black cat in a dark room.
                          There is no sarcasm for the militia.
                          But there is anger, with the cheers of the patriots who do not see the problems of New Russia, but simply flood the site with slogans and cheers with patriotism and uncontrolled unjustified optimism.
                          And also I have great anger at the little thinking people for whom the slogans replace the gyrus in the brain!
                          Do you understand that unjustified optimism in this case is blasphemy?
                          This is a sophisticated cynical deception.
                          Do you understand this?
                          I think so, and therefore I will treat cheers patriots not just with sarcasm, I will treat them with contempt, I will consider them stupid scum!
                        3. -2
                          28 July 2014 19: 44
                          I have been here for the second week, but have not seen a single "hurray for the patriot". But your comments "caught my eye", that's why I wrote to you. What are we trying to find out with you now? Write what you want, I will not respond to your comments anymore.
                        4. +1
                          28 July 2014 19: 51
                          Quote: Dalmatia
                          I have been here for the second week, but I have not seen a single "hurray patriot"

                          You are blind.
                          Quote: Dalmatia
                          What are we figuring out with you now?

                          I don’t know what you are figuring out, I want to find out for myself the course of your thoughts.
                          I note that I still do not understand it.
                          Pichal crying
                          Quote: Dalmatia
                          Write what you want, I will no longer respond to your comments.

                          Yes, it doesn’t matter if you respond to my comments or not.
                          It is important that you start thinking with your own head. hi
            2. +4
              28 July 2014 15: 49
              After the defeat of the forces of Novorossia (again, if ukroin has enough forces, which is very doubtful based on financial and moral reasons) there will simply be a partisan movement that can last for decades (based on the number of weapons on hand) in these conditions, it is economically inconvenient for the Americans to mine shale gas. and as a result, a military operation will not bring any sense, except for the destruction of the Slavs. But do not you think that after all that the leadership and their allies have done to the leadership, that they will live in peace and harmony?
            3. +9
              28 July 2014 17: 14
              Quote: ATATA
              Share, I will rejoice with everyone.

              I can give for thought this material:

              The situation on the fronts of the South-East on 12.00 (in Kiev) 27 July.

              July 27th, 16: 40 http://yurasumy.livejournal.com/127513.html

              I wanted it in the evening, but as I understood it, the people will take down the roof before evening. Again the panic went on intensely supported by national-Svidomo trolls.
              The form of the review today will be slightly different.
              The southern cauldron is already in agony because the junta is trying to use the remaining few days while the units of the militia will be connected by battles to turn the tide in their favor. To do this, they took the only possible adventure - an attempt to encircle Donetsk-Gorlovka-Makeyevka (although where they can get such powers from is a mystery. Even in theory they are not). At the same time, the punitive forces are trying to link parts of the militia inside Donetsk, Gorlovka. This is an adventure of the highest standard, but it seems they have no other way. For this, a strike was launched yesterday at Debaltseve. Since it was not possible to break the resistance, and the deadlines were tight, punitives walked around the city from the West and the strike group (reinforced by a tank company to the motorized infantry battalion) marched into the weakly fortified Shakhtersk. From the south, a blow was struck towards Stepano-Krynka. But by lunchtime in this direction, the punishers rolled back to their original positions (with great losses) and .... the whole operation of the punishers finally went wrong. The column that broke into Shakhtersk essentially found itself in an operational environment (by evening, if they do not wash off, the environment ring will close and another boiler will appear). Judging by the data from the network, significant reinforcements are being thrown into the republic’s combat area (from the LPR to the company of tanks and motorized infantry battalions, reinforced with the D-8 30-gun battery), Reinforcements (of an unidentified composition) also approached from Donetsk. Plus artillery can operate in this area Donetsk UR). Debaltsevo holds on. I think until evening Shakhtersk will turn into a place of fierce fighting with great chances for the success of the militia.
              How Come. Debaltseve is not taken, so there will be no artillery support from the north to punishers. From the South, the front of the militia is not broken, and then artillery is not an assistant. In the urban development of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and NG do not fight. In open areas they will be covered with artillery (and they don’t have time to dig in. They were cavalry) and the superior militia forces should finish off the erupted group (and there will obviously be an advantage in tanks).
              The remaining areas are not important now, and there have not yet been any serious battles there. Everyone is waiting for the denouement of the fighting in the DNI.
              Conclusions. I don’t know how anyone, but it’s obvious to me that the junta is embarking on yet another adventure, because it perfectly understands that time is short. The southern group will cease to exist in a day or two, which will radically change the balance of power. Because a desperate attack in the direction of Debaltseve-Shakhtersk (very similar to the July 13 throw bypassing Lugansk) are doomed to failure in advance (because they did not take Debaltseve yesterday, and today Stepano-Krynka), even more ambitious than two weeks ago (well, there will be more trophies in Strelkova, and the junta has one less heavy battalion group. Who is worse from this?).
              P.S. Why the people again fell into a panic for me is a mystery.
              1. +5
                28 July 2014 17: 51
                People react with emotions, not in terms of tactics and strategy. The village is occupied with lessons, panic and everything is gone, the militia beat off, we defeat hurray. Few people appreciate the real situation, not the newspaper. Personally, I believe that the militia is winning, despite the decrease in the territory of the atom. First of all, this is evidenced by the constant increase in the number, equipment and controllability of the militia. We see how different parts of the DNI and LNR are being transferred quickly and regardless of their subordination - the east, the stronghold or the riflemen. Even they are not right to call them militias, since they have already become an army. At the same time, the urki act adventurously and lose the trained units of VSU and NG. There are not many of these parts - 1 airborne brigade, 8 ombre, 3 airmobile [80 regiments like upgraded to brigade], 2 tank, 3 art and 1 missile plus 1 brigade and 2 special forces regiment of the former centuries, and now ng and some ordinary ng brigades , and part of them covers Kiev, Odessa and Kharkov. The main thing in this war is not control of the territory, but the destruction of enemy forces. And mobilization will not help the lessons, because the untrained and not equipped civilians are cannon fodder that can stand at roadblocks, but not maintain normal databases. And at the same time, the Urki ruin the regular troops and do not protect them at all. Well, about the situation behind enemy lines, I’m silent, because it’s clear to everyone that dill is constrained by time.
              2. -1
                28 July 2014 18: 13
                Quote: Oleg Sobol
                P.S. Why the people again fell into a panic for me is a mystery.

                What about Saur Grave?
                1. typhoon7
                  0
                  28 July 2014 19: 11
                  Defended and broke not bad. Offensive at once in all directions was not a good idea. The press service of the army of Novorossiya has not yet given exact losses to the junta, they are too big. Under the miners, the junta also gets stuck, would rather have run out of steam. Apparently, Novorossia made a bet on exhausting the Ukrainian army with subsequent strikes against the weakened forces of the Natsiks, and the junta wants to take Donetsk and Lugansk before the winter, or at least take them into a blockade of the Leningradskaya type. Immediately visible grandchildren of the Fuhrer. You need to break them anyway, the only way you can put the West in its place, otherwise they will not calm down.
                2. +2
                  28 July 2014 19: 31
                  Quote: ATATA
                  What about Saur Grave?

                  News from the militia of New Russia
                  28.07.2014 13: 40 (Moscow time) Message from LifeNews news agency

                  "The Ukrainian army did not take the height of Saur-Grave, the battle continues. Earlier, the press service of the President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko announced that the strategically important point was under the control of the military.
                  Ukrainian troops could not take control of the height of Saur-Tomb near the town of Snezhnoye (DPR), where, from the beginning of July, the DPR militia took up positions. This was reported to LifeNews by the head of the Information Center "South-Eastern Front" Konstantin Knirik.
                  According to him, the militias reported that fighting continued in the area of ​​the hill and the nearby villages of Marinovka and Dmitrovka, and there was no talk of passing the point".
                  1. +1
                    28 July 2014 19: 37
                    28.07.2014. Synopsis from the head of the political department of the DPR Igor Ivanov.

        3. +2
          28 July 2014 15: 40
          Quote: ATATA
          Quote: rasputin17
          Yeah !!! A good bottomless barrel for washing and cutting taxpayer dough !!

          For your information, in Ukraine, the USA, after the defeat of the Novorossiya militia, will earn money by extracting shale gas in the Donbass and supplying it through gas pipelines to the EU.
          And Russia will find solace in Christian peace and not opposing evil with violence.

          We will not be so fleeting in conclusions !! Money for the war still needs to be received and brought to the consumer so that it would not be cut before it is received !! The army is demoralized and Natsik on their beliefs with empty stomachs will not last too long !!!
        4. +4
          28 July 2014 15: 58
          [quote = ATATA] [quote = rasputin17]
          For your information, in Ukraine, the USA, after the defeat of the Novorossiya militia, will earn money by extracting shale gas in the Donbass and supplying it through gas pipelines to the EU.
          And Russia will find solace in Christian peace and not opposing evil with violence. [/ Quote]

          it’s costly even for the USA, the investments are large and the exhaust .... and plus to this if the people will boycott the work, or even tear harder (they will have nothing left to lose) to guard against partisans? in general, profitability will fall (because only your rightful ones and you have to pay with this, they will not work on bare enthusiasm ...)
        5. Crang
          -5
          28 July 2014 16: 04
          Right now, the United States will assign Ukraine the status of a non-aligned NATO military partner and begin to supply it with weapons. And if we supply New Russia, then these can perceive it as an attack on one of the NATO members. There is a question - who will have a small intestine. It is possible that it is with Great Pu.
          1. +1
            28 July 2014 16: 30
            What do you blame on GDP, you first figure out in your own garden. So far, Russia and its president have not made a single mistake in political strategy., Unlike the same pants and dill, I’ll be silent about the EU. The events taking place today were supposed from the beginning. You just read articles 4-5 months ago, and better since the last Maidan was formed. All unanimously reiterated about the resistance of the east of Ukraine, about a possible war, separation of regions, and about further actions of Russia, so far nothing has gone beyond the bounds, the only thing was the annexation of Crimea was forced.
      4. +10
        28 July 2014 14: 52
        Quote: rasputin17
        Good bottomless barrel for washing and cutting dough

        It was such an ally that the States did not have enough for complete happiness.
        1. +17
          28 July 2014 15: 05
          US tactics .. "We will fight Russia until the last Ukrainian .." Everything is heading towards this ...
        2. +2
          28 July 2014 15: 52
          And they only produce such ones !! Because they do not need strong allies because the strong ones understand the whole rottenness of the mattress !!
      5. +4
        28 July 2014 15: 24
        Recognize the DPR and LPR as allies, business .. and all masks will be dropped, the United States and Russia will fight among themselves Ukrainians ...
        1. +2
          28 July 2014 15: 46
          In reality, it is strictly forbidden to touch Ukraine. Amers now need it (but this is only temporary)! But if you fuck in Moldova (only gently), then the rotten and cowardly Europe will not like the prospect of a mini-nuclear war with the participation of the Russian Federation and NATO. Hence the importance of Ukraine’s democratic choice will be inversely proportional to the likelihood of this mess, so that both Crimea and Novorossia will be recognized and let the mattresses be ordered to stop! What about Ukraine? And Ukraine will enter the customs union with the new president and government.
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      7. +1
        28 July 2014 16: 07
        Quote: rasputin17
        Yeah !!! A good bottomless barrel for washing and cutting taxpayer dough !!


        So the dough is less and less. And the value of green candy wrappers all falls and falls.
      8. +5
        28 July 2014 16: 30
        A military ally is when you attack him, and there comes a "roof". It turns out that the United States wants to formalize its military aid to Ukraine. There will be marines in Kiev, it smells fried.
      9. +5
        28 July 2014 17: 00
        N V Starikov 28 07 14 g "War and Unity"
        "In fact, Russia has ALREADY been subjected to aggression. The United States is attacking us on the territory of Ukraine. The war unleashed there has much more global goals than forcing the inhabitants of two regions of Novorossia to recognize the power of the Kiev rulers. The goal of this terrible, but still local war is to start a battle a much larger scale, preferably a global one, and it is imperative to involve Russia in it.

        All this takes place against the backdrop of a pseudo-world political landscape. Our geopolitical "partners" smile and pretend that there is no war and there are no plans for war. In such a situation, Russia pretends that there is no war. We also 'smile diplomatically'. "
        http://nstarikov.livejournal.com/1401382.html
        many letters .. read ..
        .... there is clear progress in the Kremlin !!!
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      11. Stalker
        -3
        28 July 2014 19: 28
        Competent approach of Putin !! good In a couple of years, the Pentagon will not be operational, Ukrainians will plunder and sell everything !!! Even the screws from the Abamka turntable. And his personal dry closet will be lowered at auction !!!! laughing
      12. +1
        28 July 2014 19: 46
        It’s like in a joke. GDP thinks the right word for the press is what to call the EU and Matrasnikov, at first, it seems, like go. Don, rude, peer. We, of course, literary, but also rude, well, let there be PARTNERS.
    2. +2
      28 July 2014 14: 39
      Well, now Igor Ivanovich’s trophies will be added ...
      1. +2
        28 July 2014 14: 47
        Quote: Basarev
        Well, now Igor Ivanovich’s trophies will be added ...
        yeah and after fertilizing fertile lands the same wassat
      2. +1
        28 July 2014 14: 48
        Quote: Basarev
        Well, now Igor Ivanovich’s trophies will be added ...

        The second day there are no reports from him.
        Is he alive
        1. +7
          28 July 2014 14: 55
          Quote: ATATA
          The second day there are no reports from him.
          Is he alive

          It was said that there will be no reports from Strelkov. There are many linden trees that he did not make at all.
        2. +3
          28 July 2014 15: 07
          On the ai corps there was infa from him that he would not give more reports, instead there would be a press service.
      3. portoc65
        +3
        28 July 2014 14: 48
        Americans need war like airAlliance will allow any military help to be freely provided to dill..this is actually a declaration of war on Russia. It seems to me that it’s a scythe on a rock ... to fight with Russians is suicide.
        1. +4
          28 July 2014 15: 06
          fight with the Russians is suicide

          It's true. Only how many Russians will they pull in their suicide! However, suicide will not help them. They are dead. But how to save the living ???
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        3. typhoon7
          +2
          28 July 2014 17: 44
          By the way, the first junta mechanized brigade, created in the image and likeness of NATO, was sent to New Russia. We ought to slap them on the way, they have western sniper rifles, the SKIF ATGM would also be useful, the BTR-3E1 and several tanks of the latest modifications. We ought to give us something newer than "Fagots" for New Russia, and pay less attention to the barking of Western mongrels.
        4. +2
          28 July 2014 19: 14
          The US problem is that there is no enemy (Russia smiles, but does not respond), who will give the WAR for chopping cabbage of the military-industrial complex of Amer. fool Cruel, but the East is a delicate matter ...
          Ukraine for Obama - revenge for Syria, for the King of Holland and the son of the congressman - shale gas, for Benya - Akhmetov's property, etc., for Waltzman - restitution for Jews ... And for dill, only one thing - WORK in his "Europe" ... slaves.
    3. naguch
      0
      28 July 2014 14: 40
      Yankees untie their hands
      1. Vik.Tor
        0
        28 July 2014 14: 43
        Yeah, cover up one idiocy with another ... fool
      2. arch_kate3
        -1
        28 July 2014 15: 37
        Have to tie their legs ...
        1. +3
          28 July 2014 18: 11
          Quote: arch_kate3
          Have to tie their legs ...

          Our answer to Chamberlain ... such! (do not even hope))))
    4. Fuse
      +7
      28 July 2014 14: 40
      The situation escalates without respite. "Merry" times are coming.
      1. +1
        28 July 2014 14: 46
        even more fun and more fun am
      2. +7
        28 July 2014 14: 46
        "Merry" times are coming.

        - Maybe we gotta go?
        - Be sure to bang. And more than once. The whole world is in ruin! But then.

        I'm afraid that then already dull
        1. +8
          28 July 2014 15: 24
          while they are banging on us: the GAAG made a decision in favor of the orphans from YUKOS, Russia should sleep well. The Crimean exhibition seems to "hang" there too ?! In general, these netherlands are becoming an interesting player in the big game. The Dutch then know that in the future they will be able to smoke used ear tires instead of imported mud, or they hope that everything will work out and we will forget ?!
        2. Wing
          +1
          28 July 2014 16: 33
          Or Make the night brighter-Strategic Rocket Forces.
    5. +2
      28 July 2014 14: 41
      Yeah, let them merge your military illiquid into debt, to drive them even more into debt.
    6. +5
      28 July 2014 14: 43
      So Strelkov and the militia are doing everything right !!!
    7. +11
      28 July 2014 14: 43
      According to the document, Ukraine should be recognized as the main US ally outside the NATO bloc in order to provide it with "NATO security guarantees."

      http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/395/gara261.jpg
      1. -2
        28 July 2014 14: 59
        Why do you offend people?
      2. +1
        28 July 2014 15: 25
        Ancient U, K, P in the flesh damn!)))
    8. 0
      28 July 2014 14: 44
      Pump up the mattresses. It comes around to them ....



      It turns out that the terrible lieutenant was appropriated. Significant title, at one time he managed to get it 3 (three) times.
      1. +1
        28 July 2014 15: 34
        This is how it is 3 times))) History in the studio))

        P.C. I feel like some kind of jamb laughing
        1. +1
          28 July 2014 16: 29
          at least two jambs.
      2. -1
        28 July 2014 16: 43
        The laws of physics have not been canceled. Yet how it comes around.
    9. +8
      28 July 2014 14: 44
      With the adoption of this bill, Russia has both the moral and political right to recognize the self-proclaimed ones and provide them with military assistance, at least at the level of non-state military private formations, and we have enough of those who want to remove the liver from American warriors. I just want to say ........, but I'll just say, "well, well!".
    10. -1
      28 July 2014 14: 44
      Here they are, like women in a communal kitchen! Ugh! And to us with Lavra equanimity - I’m blowing them in the forehead ... angry
      1. 0
        28 July 2014 14: 55
        Quote: nahalenok911
        And we would have with Laurel equanimity - I’m blowing them in the forehead
        if it has a brain there, it will turn out like in that joke: it fired nine shots and the brain didn’t hurt wassat
    11. +4
      28 July 2014 14: 45
      It is necessary to take Cuba with China to the CSTO laughing
    12. Tumbler
      0
      28 July 2014 14: 46
      Well, of course, it was not for nothing that they started it all.
      The most popular for the US military will be Lyashko and the like.
    13. +2
      28 July 2014 14: 47
      American morons are pushing the world for war with all their might. If Congress passes the bill, the logical response in our favor should be the recognition of New Russia with all the ensuing consequences. After that, there will be only a step to the Third World War.
      1. +2
        28 July 2014 15: 05
        Quote: Sh.O.K.
        After that, only a step will remain before the third world war.


        I'm afraid that only a step has already remained. But if they recognize the ally, then the fact of the third world will be a fait accompli. And this is very very bad ...
      2. +2
        28 July 2014 16: 49
        I am afraid dear that you are mistaken !! The third world war is already underway and the fact that we now see only the beginning of the theater of operations! Fights take place on political sidelines and flow smoothly into the battlefields where people are killed by hostages of other people's ambitions and plans. And it is not regrettable to realize this, but moves have already been made in this terrible game and the flywheel of the military machine will only spin up more and more. Now it’s not worth blaming GDP for inaction, because this inaction does not allow the fire of war to spread from dill to our lands and begin an open military confrontation with NATO and its sympathizers. And there, even to the button of nuclear arsenals, it is not far from the doctrines of the use of nuclear weapons both in Russia and in opponents.

        Quote: Sh.O.K.
        American morons are pushing the world for war with all their might. If Congress passes the bill, the logical response in our favor should be the recognition of New Russia with all the ensuing consequences. After that, there will be only a step to the Third World War.
    14. +2
      28 July 2014 14: 47
      Not very good news. The Americans want to start a hot war.
    15. +1
      28 July 2014 14: 49
      Today, July 28, one hundred years after the outbreak of the First World War, the first two world wars did not teach anything to mankind, Ping ... I strive to unleash the third with all my might, but in the twenty-first century I can’t sit out in a puddle, it’s also full.
      1. +3
        28 July 2014 14: 54
        Quote: A1L9E4K9S
        the first two world wars did not teach anything to mankind,
        Who said ... here the Americans learned to EARN from these slaughterhouses ...
      2. Tambov
        +1
        29 July 2014 05: 45
        Ping ... I seek to unleash the third with all my might, but in the twenty-first century I can’t sit out in a puddle

        They are not going to sit out "behind a puddle".
        They have been buying land and real estate in the southern hemisphere for many years.
        Dubai is a good example in illustration order. And they also saw a hunchback there recently.
        Yes, so what am I talking about?
        Well, for example, that the atmosphere on Earth does not mix between the northern and the northern hemispheres.
        These are the air currents in the atmosphere. Should I continue?
    16. +8
      28 July 2014 14: 49
      And what do you think is unrealistic for the United States in three years to turn the Ukrainian army into a new Wehrmacht and throw it at Russia?
      It was for this task that billions were invested in reanimating the Bandera regime, and all this for many years happened in front of the Kremlin "strategists".
      And which of them will answer?
    17. +4
      28 July 2014 14: 50
      Anxious indeed. A spring cannot compress indefinitely. It either straightens up or bursts. angry
    18. +3
      28 July 2014 14: 50
      Who among those present here does not understand that the war is already underway, so what kind of union the pig will have, it does not matter! Now the main victory is over American Nazism !!!
      USA must be destroyed !!!
      1. +2
        28 July 2014 14: 56
        USA must be destroyed !!!

        Preferably by mistake. They pressed the wrong button, but it doesn’t happen to anyone ...
      2. 0
        28 July 2014 15: 15
        it’s going, only in explicit form it goes between dill and the militia.

        in an explicit form (in the hot phase, so to speak), the US and Russia are not yet at war. And what for do we need it? How much can the entire continent be saved from destruction?
        Yes, and in conditions when we are being exposed as aggressors ... But everything goes to what will happen ... Oh, I don’t envy GDP now, oh now it’s hard ...
      3. 0
        28 July 2014 16: 10
        Even if it bursts, it will cripple those nearby ...
    19. kelevra
      +1
      28 July 2014 14: 51
      Well, well, we don’t read what is written in the charter! They don’t have the right to recognize as an ally the state that is currently conducting any military operations within the country or with other countries!
      1. +1
        28 July 2014 20: 51
        Quote: kelevra

        Well, well, we don’t read what is written in the charter! They don’t have the right to recognize as an ally the state that is currently conducting any military operations within the country or with other countries!

        Officially, they carry out "CTO", so martial law is not declared
    20. 0
      28 July 2014 14: 51
      The congressman’s press service also notes that the bill was supported by the Ukrainian lobby.

      Insanity grows stronger !!! The orderlies urgently and a separate ward !!! Medicine is powerless here. All that you can slow down this process so little with tranquilizers and antipsychotics !! There are no words only one saliva and those abusive because looking at the country and what they did to it without tears is impossible !!!! And every day the actions of the official Kiev are more and more dibbler !! One can clearly feel the approach of autumn attacks and exacerbations !!! The country was allowed into the world !! hunger and poverty are on the doorstep, debts are ahead of GDP, entered into voluntary slavery under the slogan "nezalezhnost" though it is not clear from what or by whom, corruption and rampant crime, fascism and anarchy in all structures, civil war and genocide !! What are they hoping for! ???
      1. +1
        28 July 2014 16: 52
        Soon, mattresses in dill will put the dictator unambiguously what will happen then we all know very well.
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    22. 0
      28 July 2014 14: 54
      "According to the document, Ukraine should be recognized as the main US ally outside NATO in order to provide it with" NATO security guarantees. "

      "NATO security guarantees" - guaranteed bombing from the air, cruise missile shelling of civil and industrial facilities, the use of prohibited weapons (phosphorus bombs, cluster munitions, chemical agents) on civilians. Is this "security" necessary for Ukraine?
    23. Cheldon
      -6
      28 July 2014 14: 54
      They stuck to Putin. They may not understand that he has no choice. Will stand for an alliance with NATO, the local left will sweep away. Will become a patriot, and in reserve only a clown Shoigu with biathlon and sudden checks. Those who served in the army are just bastards from constant sudden inspections.
    24. Freemason
      0
      28 July 2014 14: 55
      Here is numb then wretched ... So they want to start a war. Well, the Americans understand everything with them .. But Ukraine, the people are completely dumb, they put on a loop for themselves so they are even tighter trying to tighten ... It's unfortunate all this ....
    25. 0
      28 July 2014 14: 56
      Are you considering? Oh well.
    26. 0
      28 July 2014 14: 58
      Circus performance continues going to its climax ...
    27. +3
      28 July 2014 15: 00
      The US Congress will consider a proposal to recognize Ukraine as a military ally
      And here’s a step towards securing a bridgehead for the invasion. Yes, the further you go, the more it smells like a big war. Well, we need to make a return move and recognize New Russia as our military ally.
      1. +1
        28 July 2014 16: 55
        Transnistria also needs to be recognized.
        1. 0
          28 July 2014 20: 52
          Transnistria also needs to be recognized.
          True, and Transnistria too.
    28. shitovmg
      0
      28 July 2014 15: 00
      How will Ukraine pay for the assistance provided ??? Her only convertible currency is her territory! Half of us are supposed to pay for gas (without %%%)!
    29. Cheldon
      -3
      28 July 2014 15: 02
      PS I completely forgot to add to PTU students and white-ticketers my comments are sharply contraindicated.
      1. 0
        28 July 2014 15: 36
        Why is your shoulder strap not Russian?
    30. 0
      28 July 2014 15: 02
      Or maybe it's really time ... to gasp?
      And there will be no sanctions, dollars, junta ...
      1. +1
        28 July 2014 16: 53
        Quote: Black and White
        Or maybe it's really time ... to gasp?
        And there will be no sanctions, dollars, junta ...

        Or maybe not worth it !! Shipko still live hotz! Understand that in this war there will be no winners as well as the defeated!
    31. +1
      28 July 2014 15: 02
      Cuba. Here is our military ally - a non-aligned one. You might think that the Americans have forgotten about Cuba. It is they who are working on the option "killed" by the recent visit to the GDP of the aging Fidel Castro. You just need to work out this topic. But they won't. What kind of an ally is Ukraine if Cuban solidarity has not disappeared for so many years?
    32. 0
      28 July 2014 15: 04
      It seems like you don’t feel like dying, but on the other hand, this whole game of geopolitics is tired of the fact that it’s time to solve the problem radically already, or they are us or we are them. To gasp, and gasp so that the whole world is in ruin.
      1. +1
        28 July 2014 16: 58
        All of us will die sooner or later. Another thing is how?
      2. +1
        28 July 2014 17: 02
        Of course, I understand your point of view that the expectation of death is worse than death itself, we have already lived, at least I have already exchanged ten for a long time, but what about those who are just born or begin to live, take their first steps, say their first words? After all, craving into the world like a penny, we take responsibility for all the lives that burn out in a nuclear nightmare! And it will be necessary to answer before the Almighty not only for every life but also for every word and even for thought!
    33. +1
      28 July 2014 15: 05
      The authorities (i.e., oligarchs) of Ukraine are engaged in outright prostitution. Humanly, I feel sorry for the population of Ukraine, if they could see it soon, otherwise it will be too late ...
      1. 0
        28 July 2014 17: 01
        And we have oligarchs so hot on the side right?
    34. +4
      28 July 2014 15: 06
      I’m directly dreaming to see where is the very latest weaponry of the militias ??? months go by, but there are no Kadyrov’s, no GRushnikov, no modern weapons ...
    35. 0
      28 July 2014 15: 07
      In the outskirts, the Constitution states that they are a non-aligned country. They are now adjusting it for themselves, but it is unlikely that the number will pass. The Russian Federation is against it, but we are such a "Mordor" that we will have to agree and reckon with us. All these statements, work for the public, and suddenly "people go to waste". belay
    36. Mishanya 84
      +1
      28 July 2014 15: 09
      Americans completely lost fear !!!
    37. +1
      28 July 2014 15: 09
      Wow - "Ukrainian lobby" - it sounds extremely surprising when you imagine where this lobby is located! Generally on another continent!
      And this fact would be funny if the Ukrainian ghetto was no longer here under the leadership of this Ukrainian lobby!
      Well, what kind of nation is this Ukrainians ??? Well, there are duped stupid people, even though in 23 years a lot of them have appeared, but not all the same 40 million then immediately !!!
    38. -1
      28 July 2014 15: 10
      Congress will consider the proposal for the recognition of Ukraine as a military ally If only she breathed and did not die ahead of time, even shake a little bit of oil shale so as to close the loss with something ...
    39. +1
      28 July 2014 15: 11
      Are few bills being introduced? That's when they will. Ally - this is not technology and loot, it is necessary to fight. And Russia is not Iraq. It will hurt.
    40. +1
      28 July 2014 15: 11
      Something the Americans have lost caution. Openly supporting the fascist junta is the same as smearing shit in front of everyone. Sooner or later, Ukraine will come to its normal state - an alliance with the Russian Federation. And when there will be a trial of fascist puppets, what will the USA look like? Or maybe they’ll sit on one bench ...
    41. +3
      28 July 2014 15: 16
      This little piece of paper in Congress is a huge step for all of humanity to World War III.
    42. +2
      28 July 2014 15: 17
      Kiev intends to ask Washington to grant Ukraine the status of a major ally outside the NATO bloc.

      After some hesitation, put a plus to this note. It's hard to ply such a bitter truth. But my plus is the truth, although it hurts. If the request of the pig is satisfied, then this is the beginning of a great war ...
      And every day we wait and hope for an end to the war. It is important not to become limp and not to give up. Wait and believe!
    43. 0
      28 July 2014 15: 18
      Quote: JonnyT
      Something the Americans have lost caution. Openly supporting the fascist junta is the same as smearing shit in front of everyone. Sooner or later, Ukraine will come to its normal state - an alliance with the Russian Federation. And when there will be a trial of fascist puppets, what will the USA look like? Or maybe they’ll sit on one bench ...


      Yes, they’ve lied together, they’re calling Saakashvili to their homeland ... you won’t get around, p.i.s. the same story, and Lyashko, Parashenka and company, by the time they completely busted Urkaini, would warm their bones in Miami, verified negative
    44. 0
      28 July 2014 15: 19
      Are you about (obscene rude language) or what? "a full-fledged democratic state" ?! and what was under-state or undemocratic? so it is determined by the institutions of power, which are completely copied from Western counterparts ... bad thing ...
    45. 0
      28 July 2014 15: 20
      Yes, let them enter at least in govno (though they have long been there). Eye drops will not help a cancer patient.
      It is not yet known how calmly A. measures will (if they will) produce that gas. Even if the militia does not release Slavyansk by winter, they have a DRG.
      A. measures, apparently, have not yet suffered tangible losses in New Russia. Well, everything is ahead.
      1. zzz
        zzz
        0
        28 July 2014 16: 29
        Quote: rotmistr60
        A. measures, apparently, have not yet suffered tangible losses in New Russia. Well, everything is ahead.


        This is how I want to see on the screens when the NATO militia will begin to water and take prisoner! This is not Africa, or even Vietnam. You can’t recognize Novorossia now, you can’t follow the road that the State Department is laying for us. You need to look for your paths, from different sides, then, you look, they all merge into one big one. Even we have sooooo many smart people on the forum, I think that Putin also has analysts who know. We just were not ready for such a frank and cynical lie!
        1. 0
          28 July 2014 17: 08
          Well, of course, only two decades passed after the collapse. We were not prepared for a cynical lie))
    46. Andrey82
      +5
      28 July 2014 15: 23
      In fact, the United States declared war on Russia. For our part, instead of recognizing the DPR and LPR and declaring the United States an aggressor, silence or expression of concern.
    47. +1
      28 July 2014 15: 23
      It is not so simple that these bitches could not drag us into this war by Boeing or by other methods; now they understand if Ukraine will be recognized as an ally of the GDP and nothing else can be left to recognize the LPR and the DPR and introduce troops with all the consequences that are not encouraging for both nations.
      1. +3
        28 July 2014 15: 29
        and the information war is that a toy? from it half the world is already blazing ... couldn’t drag him into the war ?! brother, come to your senses, we are all in the war for the most can not ....
        1. +1
          28 July 2014 17: 06
          Quote: Makarov
          and the information war is that a toy? from it half the world is already blazing ... couldn’t drag him into the war ?! brother, come to your senses, we are all in the war for the most can not ....

          And the third world !! soldier
    48. +1
      28 July 2014 15: 24
      As I understand it, several old-timers, such as Brzezinski and Co., who have a great influence on certain political circles in America from the Ukrainian-Polish diaspora, are afraid to not live to see the finals, and they don’t care what they think about them all over the world, anyway soon go to the other world! So they press on all the levers, the main thing is to have time in life to see your dream - Ukraine is now America ...
    49. +3
      28 July 2014 15: 25
      Are few bills being introduced? That's when they will. Ally - this is not technology and loot, it is necessary to fight. And Russia is not Iraq. It will hurt.
    50. Leshka
      +1
      28 July 2014 15: 26
      it is very bad for us
      1. +1
        28 July 2014 17: 15
        Rather, it is a message to calls for recognition of the DPR-LPR, - "What will happen if you recognize"

        What really needs to be done is to restructure banking, withdraw financial assets from the dollar zone, the same stub. fund.
        Withdraw the bank from desuvernetity and the auspices of the MB and IMF. Change the constitution.
    51. 0
      28 July 2014 15: 28
      "Все пропало, шеф! Гипс снимают, клиент уезжает!" (С) к/ф "Бриллиантовая рука". Не ссыте, люди. США зажрались и "отяжелели". Вероятность почувствовать в России (да и в Новороссии) "всю военную мощь" североатлантического альянса минимальна. PS Шапкозакидательством, однако, увлекаться не стоит. Адекватные ответы у России подготовлены.
    52. +3
      28 July 2014 15: 33
      Новость в положительном плане:
      США не смогли продавить коллег по НАТО , что бы от лица блока предоставить гарантии Украине! Именно по этому пришлось придумывать новый термин от себя. ( ура ! Хозяин назначил меня любимой женой. wink )

      Новость в негативном свете:
      при придания Украине статуса "любимой жены" США встают в позицию- обижают НАТО ( в лице США) ! И подключают европейских участников блока.

      В целом ситуация положительная, и дополнительно подтверждает частичную потерю гегемонии США над остальными членами в блоке НАТО
      ( прошу меня простить hi Румынию, Польшу и всю Прибалтику , ЧЛЕНАМИ вас назвать не могу)
      ПС тем кто считает что противоречия в НАТО возникают сами по себе, флаг в руки и лозунги в комментарии love , а на деле это огромная работа мида, разведки и ... Еще пары человек drinks
      1. +3
        28 July 2014 15: 45
        США оффициально вступает в войну США против России на территории Украины...

        Как бы нам наших китайских друзей подвязать?....
      2. +1
        28 July 2014 15: 56
        (прошу меня простить Румынию, Польшу и всю Прибалтику, ЧЛЕНАМИ вас назвать не могу)

        А по мне, так это самые "члены" и есть!
    53. -2
      28 July 2014 15: 36
      Нато погибель для Украины,Россия недопустит, чтоб госдеповские мрази топтали исконно Русские земли...
    54. 0
      28 July 2014 15: 41
      тем сокрушительней будет поражение штатов!дело движется ко второму Вьетнаму не кажется ли вам?если проследить как начиналась Вьетнамская война,всё один в один как на Украине!
    55. arch_kate3
      0
      28 July 2014 15: 44
      Париж-брали, Берлин-брали, Фашингтон - на очереди...Умельцам надо сделать картинку капитолия с нашим флагом и запустить на вражеские сайты - пусть понервничают!
    56. 0
      28 July 2014 15: 47
      Вот так Америка взращивает неофашистов, Кто тогда живет и правит США --- правильно, ФАШИСТЫ. Вот Вам и демократия по западному образцу.
    57. 0
      28 July 2014 15: 48
      думаю ответ будет положительным, но с оговорками...
      Украина для США такое золотое дно против РФ...что они сразу то не уцепились то в 2004(хотя там без СМИ войны и Крыма нечем было взять массовый протест населения против НАТО)
      счас все предпосылки. Крым счас повод для Украины стучать во "все колокола"
      ну а светочи демократии и центр силы не примнет воспользоваться.
      Перманентная война все больше и больше разрастается.
    58. +1
      28 July 2014 15: 55
      К этому все и идет, признать агрессию Россию и ввезти НАТО на территорию Украины. США реализует этот план с февральских событий. Хотя оно (НАТО) уже сейчас там есть не официально - инструкторы, наемники.
    59. Sergei 57
      0
      28 July 2014 15: 56
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Are few bills being introduced? That's when they will. Ally - this is not technology and loot, it is necessary to fight. And Russia is not Iraq. It will hurt.


      Так они и с Ираком справится не смогли.
    60. Cheldon
      0
      28 July 2014 15: 58
      Глубоко ошибался. ПТУшников на сайте мало. Но много бывших прапорщиков. Миль пардон. Ничего против не имею. Мой главный собутыльник-ст. прапорщик.
    61. +1
      28 July 2014 15: 59
      Quote: JonnyT
      Something the Americans have lost caution. Openly supporting the fascist junta is the same as smearing shit in front of everyone. Sooner or later, Ukraine will come to its normal state - an alliance with the Russian Federation. And when there will be a trial of fascist puppets, what will the USA look like? Or maybe they’ll sit on one bench ...


      Свежо предание, а верится с трудом..
    62. +1
      28 July 2014 16: 16
      Quote: ATATA
      Quote: rasputin17
      Yeah !!! A good bottomless barrel for washing and cutting taxpayer dough !!

      For your information, in Ukraine, the USA, after the defeat of the Novorossiya militia, will earn money by extracting shale gas in the Donbass and supplying it through gas pipelines to the EU.
      And Russia will find solace in Christian peace and not opposing evil with violence.


      К Вашему сведению, на самом деле газ будут разрабатывать голландцы совместно с ангичанами. Хоть в заблуждение не вводите.
    63. 0
      28 July 2014 16: 17
      Признание Украины союзником будет очень решительным шагом то стороны США, даёт возможность размещения американских войск и передачу тяжелого вооружения без какого либа согласования с кем бы то ни было.
      В простыми словами,это объявление войны России,да нам с вами в прямом смысле этого слова.
    64. 0
      28 July 2014 16: 20
      Войска НАТО уже в Харькове.

      Об этом сообщил Nico Geerts, который является бригадным генералом, командиром 11 аэромобильной бригады Нидерландов.

      Он отдал приказ о срочном сборе тысячи солдат, которых нужно немедленно отправить в Восточную Украину на несколько недель. Приказ был отдан 26 июля в 8-00 по киевскому времени. На сборы было выделено двенадцать часов. Местные журналисты сначала удивились и спросили, как они будут охранять экспертов работающих по Боингу без оружия. Нидерландец в свою очередь ответил, что это не является проблемой, и оружие доставят в течение нескольких часов.

      Кроме этого, из вооружения еще доставят и ударные группы вертолетов Apache. Военные из Голландии прибудут в Украину на штатном транспортном самолете НАТО из аэропорта в Ейндховене. Вместе с ними, в спецработах будет участвовать австралийский спецназ SASR, который уже находится в Европе. Все эти иностранные подразделения прибудут с целью охраны территории крушения малазийского самолета, но если кто-то помешает, и вторгнется на этот периметр, то будет отдан приказ на уничтожение. Участвовать в украинской АТО, или на стороне ополчения голландцы также не будут.


      Говорите "...если кто-то помешает, и вторгнется на этот периметр, то будет отдан приказ на уничтожение"?
      Ну, ну. Боюсь, что если кто-то вторгнется, то первое, что вы услышите, будет:"Здравствуйте, девочки!"
    65. 0
      28 July 2014 16: 37
      Уважаемый ЗлойКот, откуда инфа?
    66. 0
      28 July 2014 16: 39
      вот так и развяжется третья мировая.....после неё уже не буднт не победителей не побеждённых....американцы так и не поняли русских, хоть и многое просчитали наперёд.....хоть про Москву 1812 года бы поштудировали..а русским я скажу одно бог на вашей стороне и этим всё сказано.
    67. 0
      28 July 2014 16: 41
      Вечный союз задроченных . Навека. Бьемся до последнего хохла.
      Маразматики и шизоиды.
      Вот и слились две духовно близких общности.
      А объединяет одно - где бы чего нибудь еще с....ть на халяву. По барабану средства и методы.
    68. 0
      28 July 2014 16: 47
      13:00
      Петр Порошенко снял с себя всю вину за внутреннюю и внешнюю политику правительства Украины

      ПорошенкоПетр Порошенко, давая интервью CNN сделал заявление на весь мир о том, что Украина находится под внешним управлением США.

      Об этом сообщает агенство “Anna-News”: На первый взгляд это кажется глупой оговоркой: добровольно признать, что Украина находится под внешним управлением. Однако, аналитики считают, что Порошенко пошел на это сознательно и обдумано. Почему?

      Признавая, что Украина находится под полным управлением США, Порошенко полностью снял с себя и переложил на Обаму ответственность за всё, что происходит в стране, включая сбитый малазийский Боинг.

      Дескать, какой с нас спрос, мы всего лишь выполняем команды из Вашингтона, не более того.
    69. +1
      28 July 2014 16: 54
      Да уважаемый Макаров война идёт но я говорил несколько о другой эпостаси этой войны Я понимаю что не мы это начали, но дальнейшая эсколация конфликта...... ох боюсь ни кто сейчас не готов предсказать последствия. Ребятам очень нужен ввод Российских войск они так забрехались им любой ценой надо доказать свою правоту, а это возможно только после ввода войск. Вообщето я скажу сейчас утопичную вещь, но лучшим выходом из ситуации было бы прозрение народа Украины, (для обоих народов)но в обозримом будущим это невозможно, и будет ли возможно в перспективе тоже большой вопрос, мы настолько глупы, постоянно наступаем на одни и теже грабли нас зделали врагами мы убиваем с остервенением друг друга, а ковбои хлопают в ладоши.
      1. 0
        28 July 2014 17: 17
        У такой сильной пропаганды, которая присуствует на Украине есть одна особенность: она очень быстро теряет основную массу "послушников"...так что прозрение может и скоро наступит, просто не ввод войск сегодня - это война в Крыму завтра...тут об этом уже открыто говорят...Россия в глазах "мировой общественности" при любом раскладе будет виновата и агрессор...при любом...потму что они нас ненавидят
    70. 0
      28 July 2014 16: 58
      Ну Аргентина тоже у "светлых эльфов" военным союзником, но до конфликта за Мальвинские острова.
      Наука всем военным союзникам "светлых эльфов"
    71. +1
      28 July 2014 17: 00
      А мы должны признать ДНР и ЛНР военными союзниками.
    72. 0
      28 July 2014 17: 03
      Порошенко и его свора - это не народ Украины. Думаю,что народ Украины скоро созреет и сделает правильные выводы в отношении США. Каждый день братоубийственной войны приближает их к этому...
    73. 0
      28 July 2014 17: 14
      Quote: rasputin17
      Quote: y ℒiƒℯ
      In the course of August, the default is canceled. It’s sad.

      Of course canceled !!! There will be something worse! Their life will become better and their life will be more fun !! Horse racing from frost to us .. car and new cottages to the generals and infusions in the bill to the oligarch and the government !!! And the people will ride on the Maidan from cold and hunger and pay for this banquet !!
      Да еще попросят Россию оплатить эту дружбу навеки.
    74. 0
      28 July 2014 17: 18
      Ну какая европейская война без русских? В открытую хлестаться мы горазды!Но ведь нам навязывают войну экономическую.
    75. 0
      28 July 2014 17: 19
      янки краине сейчас надают старья-и всё самовывозом-воюйте саюзнички только мы вас на счётчик поставим-территориями нам отдодите-как за новьё-для дураков металлолома по фантастическим ценам-не жалко
    76. +1
      28 July 2014 17: 29
      ,,сепаратисты и наёмные головорезы, вооружённые высокотехнологичным российским оружием,, танки Т 34 снятые с постаментов - это высокотехнологичное оружие??????????
    77. 0
      28 July 2014 17: 34
      28.07.2014. Synopsis from the head of the political department of the DPR Igor Ivanov.
    78. KoRSaR1
      0
      28 July 2014 18: 20
      Если такое начнётся, Путину надо продавать оружие Сирии и Ирану отдать из с-300 да и вобще вооружать всех, кого янки считают "террористами"
    79. 0
      28 July 2014 18: 20
      Ну, признают. Дальше что? Смех. Поддерживать будут... чем? Брехло амеров не стоит нашего времени, которое мы тратим, чтобы это обдумывать...
    80. 0
      28 July 2014 18: 53
      <<<Американский Конгресс рассмотрит предложение о признании Украины военным союзником>>>
      В таком случае Россия может, например, наконец признать ДНР и ЛНР и рассмотреть вопрос о признании их военными союзниками! Может быть такая перспектива отрезвит "горячие головы" в Фашингтоне!
      1. EsTaF
        0
        28 July 2014 19: 16
        And what will it give?
        Дальше хотя бы один человек смотрел?
        Сокращение время подлета амеро-ракет?
        Стояли в Польще - будут стоять в Харькове. В чем прикол?
        1. 0
          28 July 2014 21: 43
          Quote: EsTaF

          And what will it give?
          Дальше хотя бы один человек смотрел?
          Сокращение время подлета амеро-ракет?
          Стояли в Польще - будут стоять в Харькове. В чем прикол?

          А,время подлета наших ракет, с подлодок,в расчет не берете,нетак давно всплывала у их берегов
    81. 0
      28 July 2014 19: 15
      Больше американцам таких союзников!
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    83. 0
      28 July 2014 19: 43
      Хван Пьон-Со, возглавляющий генеральное политическое бюро народной армии КНДР пригрозил нанести ядерный удар по Белому дому и Пентагону, обвинив Вашингтон в разжигании военного конфликта на корейском полуострове. «Если американские империалисты угрожают нашему суверенитету и нашим войскам, мы нанесем ядерный удар по Белому дому и Пентагону — источникам зла», — сказал Хван.
      Этим товарищам терять нечего belay
    84. +4
      28 July 2014 21: 02
      Quote: g1v2
      Лично я считаю , что ополчение побеждает , несмотря на уменьшение территории ато. В первую очередь об этом говорит постоянный рост численности , оснащенности и управляемости ополчения.

      Также сюда можно отнести и рост случаев дезертирства из рядов ВСУ
    85. +4
      28 July 2014 21: 26
      Quote: kelevra
      Well, well, we don’t read what is written in the charter! They don’t have the right to recognize as an ally the state that is currently conducting any military operations within the country or with other countries!

      По-моему, это озвучено в уставе НАТО. А янкам никакой закон не мешает назвать укропов союзниками, а потом заставить всех НАТОвцев им помогать. А те уже от счастья очередной раз лизнуть зад дяди Сэма полезут наперебой, вопреки собственным интересам. Или я ошибаюсь? hi
    86. +1
      28 July 2014 22: 39
      Посмотрим еще, чего он там этот Конгресс рассмотрит. Не так все однозначно, как говаривают дочери крымских офицеров... Еще пайков подкинут, потому что тех не хватило?
      Я что-то сомневаюсь в положительном решении, сильно расходами попахивает для Штатов, и без отдачи. Дума, они в своей давней оценке Порошенки не изменили ни буквы, и реальные ценные вещи туда броать не будут, будут и далее подстегивать европартнеров на поддержку хунты, а у самих цели то вполне ясны - бардак в окраине, и чем дольше - тем лучше, вплоть до наступления топливной асфиксии у Евросоюза, чтобы можно было его, Евросоюз взять тепленьким.
      Но обещания "защиты" своим партнерам надо раздавать не скупясь - это ведь не есть собственно "защита". Кажись, японцы уже начинают догадываться, Израиль - тоже.
    87. 0
      28 July 2014 22: 46
      The US Congress will consider a proposal to recognize Ukraine as a military ally

      Может проще объявить Украину очередным штатом? lol Согласований гораздо меньше нужно.
    88. 0
      28 July 2014 23: 49
      Негры в танках. Сегодня ополчением подбиты два танка, экипаж которых состоял из наемников не латинской внешности.
    89. 0
      29 July 2014 00: 42
      А Россия не может полностью перекрыть границы с военным союзником США, и выдворить со своей территории всех граждан государства, являющегося с момента объявления союзничества с США вероятным противником? А то у молдаван и киргизов много конкурентов при трудоустройстве на стройках России
    90. 0
      29 July 2014 03: 01
      Quote: cosmos132
      Негры в танках. Сегодня ополчением подбиты два танка, экипаж которых состоял из наемников не латинской внешности.


      Чей то много про танки возвращенные из Конго говорят . Возможно африканские экипажи не успели покинуть машины.
    91. 0
      29 July 2014 08: 57
      .России тоже нужно признать военным партнером Новороссию,если США примут Украину в союзник НАТО,и поставлять россии оружие в новороссию.

    "Right Sector" (banned in Russia), "Ukrainian Insurgent Army" (UPA) (banned in Russia), ISIS (banned in Russia), "Jabhat Fatah al-Sham" formerly "Jabhat al-Nusra" (banned in Russia) , Taliban (banned in Russia), Al-Qaeda (banned in Russia), Anti-Corruption Foundation (banned in Russia), Navalny Headquarters (banned in Russia), Facebook (banned in Russia), Instagram (banned in Russia), Meta (banned in Russia), Misanthropic Division (banned in Russia), Azov (banned in Russia), Muslim Brotherhood (banned in Russia), Aum Shinrikyo (banned in Russia), AUE (banned in Russia), UNA-UNSO (banned in Russia), Mejlis of the Crimean Tatar People (banned in Russia), Legion “Freedom of Russia” (armed formation, recognized as terrorist in the Russian Federation and banned)

    “Non-profit organizations, unregistered public associations or individuals performing the functions of a foreign agent,” as well as media outlets performing the functions of a foreign agent: “Medusa”; "Voice of America"; "Realities"; "Present time"; "Radio Freedom"; Ponomarev; Savitskaya; Markelov; Kamalyagin; Apakhonchich; Makarevich; Dud; Gordon; Zhdanov; Medvedev; Fedorov; "Owl"; "Alliance of Doctors"; "RKK" "Levada Center"; "Memorial"; "Voice"; "Person and law"; "Rain"; "Mediazone"; "Deutsche Welle"; QMS "Caucasian Knot"; "Insider"; "New Newspaper"