Lviv plant took over the production of ultra-light BTR

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Ukrainian news portal Today reports that the Lviv armored plant, which for a long time has been cooperating with foreign customers, has now begun to fulfill orders of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine.



According to the newspaper, the production of light modern Dozor armored personnel carriers, the project of which was developed at the Morozov Kharkiv Bureau, began in the workshops of the enterprise. The first sample will be ready in about a month. In time for the deadline, the factory workers are working on 2-3 shifts. After assembling the machine, a full-scale check at the tankodrome is awaiting.

Work on the "Watch" is combined at the factory with the repair of armored personnel carriers, self-propelled guns and repair and evacuation vehicles. In addition, production workers are mastering "technology for the manufacture of protective screens for armored vehicles."

According to the director of the plant Alexander Ostapets, the company “had to postpone the implementation of the prestigious foreign agreement, because we repair our equipment out of turn. Very soon, two units of BREM-1, four BTR-80 and three tank engine. In order not to depend on the Russian manufacturer, Lviv residents independently mastered the technique of manufacturing all the spare parts that go to the tanks. "

One of the engineers, Yuriy Vinar, said that factory repair teams are constantly in the ATO area. “Our specialists have already conducted six rotations and are preparing for the seventh. In field conditions, it is very difficult to repair old equipment that does not withstand heavy loads, but we manage ”- told Vinar.

The Ukrainian portal reminds that repair of combat vehicles is also being carried out in the Chernihiv region. There, from the beginning of the ATO, almost 700 units of army armored vehicles have been restored.
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  1. +49
    27 July 2014 16: 05
    Poroshenko would better fix the brains
    1. +75
      27 July 2014 16: 33
      "Punishers of the rear - to the punishers at the front !!!"
      Bastards ...
      However, taking into account the speed of surrender of the equipment of the Ukrainian militias to the militias ... It is not yet known who will fight on this technique!
      1. +17
        27 July 2014 16: 53
        Quote: de Klermon
        However, taking into account the speed of surrender of the equipment of the Ukrainian militias to the militias ... It is not yet known who will fight on this technique!

        It is still unknown how it will fight! If they collect it at all, if there is enough money, if it goes, if by then Ukraine will be completely foggy future
        1. WKS
          +11
          27 July 2014 17: 30
          Lviv plant took over the production of ultra-light BTR

          Of plastic, apparently.
          1. +17
            27 July 2014 19: 09
            And with beautiful embroideries .....
            1. +5
              27 July 2014 19: 17
              They don’t even protect against a crossbow bolt? This is useful, it will be necessary to plant more militia Nizov crossbows. Once they were extremely famous.
            2. miraculous
              +1
              27 July 2014 23: 49
              Well, yes, type of Aryan sun sign embroidery)))
          2. +2
            27 July 2014 19: 39
            Quote: wks
            Lviv plant took over the production of ultra-light BTR

            Of plastic, apparently.

            Take off from the first RPG shot. wassat
          3. +6
            27 July 2014 19: 57
            Not along the way, the Luaziki resumed ... from Lutsk to Lviv they transferred production
        2. +3
          27 July 2014 18: 38
          I don't even want to imagine the quality of this technique. Everything that is produced at a “shock pace” cannot be of high quality. And this is if you do not recall the mood among the factory workers caused by the financial policy of the authorities. So whoever the new cars are intended for, they are guaranteed dead.
        3. +7
          27 July 2014 21: 57
          Quote: serega.fedotov
          free foggy future

          Yes, very foggy.
          And the article is foggy, the jab-magazine magazine prescribed, far from everything.
          What a pearl is worth: "... Lviv residents independently mastered the technique of manufacturing all the spare parts that go to the tanks."
          Turanchok-s, thousands of spare parts for tanks, master them all not able repair factory (workshops) in Lviv, but only a complex of branches of a developed state, i.e. Defense industry. Yes
          Even in the Russian Federation and other countries-producers of BTT, "all spare parts" are not produced, at least something, but must be bought abroad.
          What they can do for sure is to remove it from one car, since Ukraine still has large reserves from the USSR, and put it on another.
          And they can completely, though in Nikolaev, throw everything out of the BRDM and make an armored toilet on wheels, which here on the site has been repeatedly demonstrated. lol
          1. +2
            27 July 2014 23: 30
            Whatever the child is not amusing ... 0)
        4. +1
          27 July 2014 23: 24
          How THEY will fight7 Technology without people is useless iron. Even the most sophisticated. And for dill, "enthusiasm" is noticeably reduced. They twist the nuts m. still not bad, but in a battle in a tank turret, the sphincter is rather weak. They would do raids from the caches at night with sawn-off shotguns and shmeisers - this is their business. And during the day to smile and bow at the meeting ...
      2. +22
        27 July 2014 17: 15
        The real story in a cousin's family:
        Arkhangelsk, 28/03/2014.
        A young grandfather came to visit from Kharkov (age 53 years), with a grandson (7 years), they watch RBC news, grandfather is a citizen of Ukraine ...
        After reading the running line "Ukraine is calling for the army all those liable for military service under 55" - the grandson says to his grandfather:
        "Grandpa Sasha, you live with us for now, otherwise you will have to shoot nuclear weapons at these, some, I am a Nazi muzzle,".
        And after all there is nothing to object to the child ...
        http://world.lib.ru/p/pochinkow_n/
        1. RBS
          RBS
          +10
          27 July 2014 17: 23
          The United States supplies long-range sniper rifles to Ukrainian punishers.



          CheyTac 408 M300

          Caliber: .408
          Effective Range: 2500 Meters Plus
          Action: CheyTac Long Action 40 MOA Base
          Barrel: 29 ”1:13 Twist
          Trigger: Adjustable Match
          Stock: Cadex Chassis “Exclusive”
          Bipod: Included
          Magazine: 7 round detachable box mag
          Weight: 21 lbs.


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          5.56, .408 (center), .50BMG

          1. +36
            27 July 2014 18: 49
            Our Ministry of Foreign Affairs needs to stop rumbling with words and move on to covering facts. They handed over the rifles - they must shout to the whole world. Brought rations - scream even louder. Etc. Our "endurance" already reminds me of constipation belay is a medical term.
            1. +6
              27 July 2014 22: 24
              Quote: 1536
              go to the coverage of the facts. They handed over the rifles - we must scream to the whole world.

              And is the delivery of rifles and rations secret? Or not legal?
              And the Foreign Ministry is not saying anything? Yes, one Churkin has already spoken ...
              The West has bananas in the ears. And words do not break through.
              Here the militia Grad is already a little audible, rallies and riots against mobilization - also come a bit.
              In winter, you see, a number of passive EU members will have to rush about without gas and pay three roads to "alternative suppliers". This is also louder than the words of the Foreign Ministry. Yes
            2. +1
              28 July 2014 01: 13
              Quote: 1536
              Our Foreign Ministry needs to stop rumbling with words and move on to covering facts. They handed over the rifles - we must scream to the whole world. They brought rations - screaming even louder.
              Do not shout anything - they will not hear. But we must quietly transfer some of our weapons to the rebels. I hope this is done.
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      4. GRune
        +9
        27 July 2014 18: 24
        Yes, they’re plowing in 2-3 shifts so that they won’t be taken into the army. Just...
        1. +3
          27 July 2014 21: 59
          Quote: GRune
          Yes, they’re plowing in 2-3 shifts so that they won’t be taken into the army. Just...

          Think right!
        2. 0
          28 July 2014 08: 23
          For reservation reservation.
      5. +7
        27 July 2014 19: 15
        I beg you, the dill thief says "Lviv residents have independently mastered the technique of making all the spare parts that go to the tanks" note EVERYTHING, that is, NO, this is hanging on pink water laughing so that hi
      6. Stalker
        0
        27 July 2014 22: 03
        It is not yet known who will fight on it, on this technique! ..

        And they themselves will be seized for leverage !!! lol
    2. +3
      27 July 2014 16: 36
      Salome would be greased. And then a little creaks.
      1. +11
        27 July 2014 17: 00
        Interface (2) RU Today, 16:36 ↑ New
        Salome would be greased. And then a little creaks.

        ALL ate already, one BURYAK remained laughing
    3. +8
      27 July 2014 16: 43
      factory director Alexander Ostapets on pitchfork
      1. dyremar 66
        +4
        27 July 2014 18: 19
        Ostapets reptile Bandera
        1. 0
          27 July 2014 22: 04
          Quote: dyremar 66 rus
          Ostapets reptile Bandera

          He also doesn’t want to go to the front, and given the piece volumes (I didn’t say anything about quality, I hope it’s counterfeit-Chinese), it’s not so disgusting.
    4. +9
      27 July 2014 16: 48
      Do, gentlemen of the Zapadentsi, armor coffins to your warriors, we wish them to burn well in the fields of New Russia.
    5. +6
      27 July 2014 16: 57
      Quote: askof
      Poroshenko would better fix the brains

      And even better - I would take up the production of "over" roomy coffins for fellow countrymen.
      1. 0
        27 July 2014 23: 07
        Quote: 1812 1945
        And even better - I would take up the production of "over" roomy coffins for fellow countrymen.

        Reusable, with automatic recycling!
    6. 0
      27 July 2014 17: 03
      Hmm ... Natsik left ONE ... Fell for good ... Until it was too late ... !!! Europe was WAITING ... !!!
      1. Turik
        +6
        27 July 2014 17: 24
        Is this a type of armored vehicles from UAZs sheathed with "armor" from lining and traffic police?



        Parashenko & Co would be nice to put in such a child prodigy and to the front.
        1. +10
          27 July 2014 18: 20
          Quote: Turik
          Is this a type of armored vehicles from UAZs sheathed with "armor" from lining and traffic police?

          The armored corps of the Dozor-B armored car protects the crew, landing and internal equipment from small arms, anti-personnel mines and the effects of weapons of mass destruction. Deformation staining provides reduced visibility and reduced detection range. The body is made of armored steel. The armored car glazing provides protection similar to the main armor protection. The bottom of the armored car is made of armored steel, has a cylindrical shape to provide protection against mines.
          1. +8
            27 July 2014 18: 35
            The engine for constipation is probably worth laughing
            1. +3
              27 July 2014 22: 40
              Quote: ramzes1776
              The engine for constipation is probably worth laughing

              And the armor is made of roofing iron or, in general, of pan-silumin (ultralight). smile
              And now, seriously: it is unlikely that the Lvov repair plant is able to make real armor using the technologies laid down by the developers.
              I remember that during the Second World War the Germans tried to copy the captured Soviet T-34, welded steel of the same chemical composition, and the armor from it was of the same quality as the Soviet model did not work (know-how not ma). I do not think that the Zapadents are much smarter than the Germans and it is unlikely that they have the necessary equipment.
              Of the simple structural steel ST-21 no armor, only play paintball.
              1. +3
                27 July 2014 23: 02
                But what is it that the T-34 was developed by KHKBM? And by the way, on the issue of shipbuilding and tank building, I would not be so optimistic about the fact that they are not competitors to us, taking into account US assistance to their slaughter cattle, they can still arrange a pretty decent popol in these matters ... By the way, I have one of the grandfathers was a tanker during the Second World War, he was knocked out several times by driving the T1942 from 1943-34, in 1944 he had to ride a bit on the captured PK-V then on the IS-2 from 1944-1945. About PK V, he had quite positive and normal reviews, he said that he had a soft suspension that even at a low speed allowed aimed fire on the move, even went through good debauchery, was easy to control, and had a gun that was smaller than the T-34 after modernization, but in terms of firing range and penetration, it was better than the T-34, the disadvantages of this tank were: non-standard spare parts that were not suitable in the USSR, permanent breakdowns, gimoyoy repair, and the lack of suitable shells. Of course, he normally could not compete with the IS-2, but still his grandfather spoke very well about him. T.ch. it is rather a matter of quantity over quality ...
                1. +1
                  28 July 2014 00: 35
                  But nothing that the T-34 was developed by KHKBM

                  And who argued? It's not about development, but about the potential of the Lviv Repair Plant to withstand all the technology incorporated into the project. In the conditions of lack of money and the general mess.

                  KHKBM is a solid company (if the personnel have not become extinct and have not fled).
              2. +1
                27 July 2014 23: 40
                ST-21-hu from it? In GOST, there are no such metallurgists)).
          2. +5
            27 July 2014 19: 47
            Quote: Bayonet
            Quote: Turik
            Is this a type of armored vehicles from UAZs sheathed with "armor" from lining and traffic police?

            The armored corps of the Dozor-B armored car protects the crew, landing and internal equipment from small arms, anti-personnel mines and the effects of weapons of mass destruction. Deformation staining provides reduced visibility and reduced detection range. The body is made of armored steel. The armored car glazing provides protection similar to the main armor protection. The bottom of the armored car is made of armored steel, has a cylindrical shape to provide protection against mines.

            How many Hummers have been burned, factory-assembled, and this "Nix" is being made on their knees under the guidance of Uncle Vasilko. fool
          3. 0
            27 July 2014 23: 35
            Shishiga? The chassis will endure a lot.
          4. +1
            28 July 2014 00: 52
            It would be better if they set up production of "kosher" BTR-40s. In the Middle East, they showed themselves very well (in the Israeli version). Conditions are similar - mobile partisan-counter-partisan war. The means of warfare have changed little. The dough was not there, and it is not here either. BTR-80 (and analogues) - redundant, incl. will be more expensive to operate, pickups with machine guns - small capacity for a conveyor. And, here's something like the BTR-40, that's it. And, behold, only without these troubles with the bottom - in this situation it is already superfluous - the 79th was destroyed not on mines. So why reinvent the wheel ?!
          5. commode77
            0
            28 July 2014 01: 31
            Reminiscent of the French Renault tank of the First World War.
    7. +17
      27 July 2014 17: 52
      The car should not be called "Patrol", but "SHAME" !!
    8. +13
      27 July 2014 18: 00
      from the "cliff" at-t64 are knocked out by the militia, and they spit this "canned food" at once ...
    9. +21
      27 July 2014 18: 52
      Off topic, but just read it ...))) "On July 14, the first message appeared that the terrorists had a Buk, but there was no confirmation. On July 17, the day of the tragedy, a Buk-5M with a crew was handed over to the militants, Sukhodolsk from Russia, "- said Nalyvaichenko." Nalyvaychenko only needs to add that T-5M tanks accompanied this Buk-98M, and MiG-42 fighters were covered from the air laughing
      1. 0
        27 July 2014 23: 38
        Darth Vader already replied that the Death Star provided the darkness at night.
      2. 0
        28 July 2014 00: 39
        T-5M tanks accompanied this Buk-98M, and MiG-42 fighters were covered from the air
        laughing ... and infantry in exoskeletons!
    10. +2
      27 July 2014 19: 05
      Quote: askof
      Poroshenko would better fix the brains

      If it were a machine, then you can save only the front and rear numbers, and all that is between them can be changed.
    11. 0
      27 July 2014 22: 49
      Great lie no money and 700 restored.
    12. -1
      28 July 2014 00: 21
      I wonder why they all men have become like idiots, and the hairstyle and mug are kind of moronic. belay
  2. +3
    27 July 2014 16: 06
    While they make a prototype, ukria will fall apart!
    1. +8
      27 July 2014 16: 11
      Quote: igorkuzik
      While they make a prototype, ukria will fall apart!

      he has a prototype on his desk. there wasn’t enough gold for more
      1. +5
        27 July 2014 17: 00
        All that was left of the gold reserves of Ukraine, the rest of the "rabbit" was taken to the "mattress" lol
        1. -1
          27 July 2014 22: 54
          Quote: aleksandr-budarin1
          All that was left of the gold reserves of Ukraine, the rest of the "rabbit" was taken to the "mattress" lol

          What do lads usually do when "the chieftain does not have a gold reserve"? That's right, "scatter in all four directions" ("Wedding in Robin").
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      3. +24
        27 July 2014 17: 05
        Quote: punk
        Quote: igorkuzik
        While they make a prototype, ukria will fall apart!

        he has a prototype on his desk. there wasn’t enough gold for more

        There is already a "Weapon of Vengeance".
        1. +5
          27 July 2014 18: 13
          Quote: 23 region
          Quote: punk
          Quote: igorkuzik
          While they make a prototype, ukria will fall apart!

          he has a prototype on his desk. there wasn’t enough gold for more

          There is already a "Weapon of Vengeance".

          Horse drawn
          1. +2
            27 July 2014 22: 58
            Not this weapon of retribution from them. In Ukraine, they invented a new psychotropic weapon of the 21st century. Against Russia. Sergey Nosko published on www.facebook.com. INFORMATION PROTECTIVE APPLICATOR "Protection of Ukraine" and this is what he writes on June 27 at 14:08.
            Look what you found! on the website http://defenseukraine.hol.es/. IF THIS IS THE TRUTH, THEN ALL RUSSIA "END"! .. Not only to blame in the modern relations between Ukraine and Russia ... As I understood, in the case of the truth of what was written, there is NO way to resist or disobey! In this case, you can dictate any conditions to Russia, even if there are massive dances of all walking Russians at the same time, and there will be no other choice but to dance ... Hmmm .... (Again, I repeat - THIS is not my invention!).
            Created on the basis of observance of the Laws of the Unified Energy Information Field: - That's even how. I can’t laugh, what they only taught at school.
        2. +3
          27 July 2014 19: 53
          It resembles a trolley, from the Civil War, trimmed with tin. lol
        3. 0
          27 July 2014 22: 50
          Wow, what a scary.
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  3. +2
    27 July 2014 16: 08
    To bomb this little factory, to the aid of New Russia!
  4. +9
    27 July 2014 16: 08
    I'm shocked how many defense industry enterprises in Ukraine
    1. +13
      27 July 2014 16: 30
      And there was even more, but the European integration of the brain destroyed and sold everything.
    2. +22
      27 July 2014 16: 34
      These are all ours, still Soviet factories, there the equipment of the same years, as if not yet exported from Germany for contributions. Only one question remains, how the repair plant will be able to produce an armored car, and even put it on a converter. Well, if a piece release is planned, as they say, not the head, not ... ope, the weather will not do. Again, the question is, the engine, as I understood it, "Ivekovsky", I think the chassis is from it, in the end, where is the money for which all the components will be bought ?! And how much all this pleasure will cost, and the armored car itself is only suitable for police functions and the border, no more, for their ATO it is just a do-o-o-o-o-og target.
      1. +10
        27 July 2014 16: 57
        And most importantly, you need dill for horseradish if there, as they say only in Chernigov, 700 units were repaired? Either they are already over, or they are again sawing money.
        1. assa79
          +1
          27 July 2014 21: 43
          as they squander equipment in war, there are no more factories to rivet ....
        2. 0
          27 July 2014 22: 15
          Quote: g1v2
          fixed

          The error is apparently grammatical: they did not fix it, but "rested", that is, they buried it.
  5. +5
    27 July 2014 16: 10
    Well, just like the Fuhrer - a little more and the Natsiks will be saved by a "miracle" - weapons, shameful ...
  6. +12
    27 July 2014 16: 10
    "I had to postpone the implementation of a prestigious foreign agreement" ... money in Ukraine, like a fool of candy wrappers ... currency is not needed. laughing
    1. +6
      27 July 2014 16: 26
      But no one spoke about money here. Yes, and where do they come from. The rabbit escaped with the remnants of conscience and cabbage. So, Heroes work for free ...
      1. 0
        27 July 2014 20: 01
        Quote: RusDV
        But no one spoke about money here. Yes, and where do they come from. The rabbit escaped with the remnants of conscience and cabbage. So, Heroes work for free ...

        All to win!
    2. +17
      27 July 2014 17: 11
      Strashila (1) RU Today, 16:10 New
      "I had to postpone the implementation of a prestigious foreign agreement" ... money in Ukraine, like a fool of candy wrappers ... currency is not needed

      They have no tension with fishing !!!! Ukrainian prostitutes in neighboring countries will work without problems !!!!!!!!!!!!
      1. RUSLAT
        +3
        27 July 2014 18: 23
        And who is going to be too hot at such people? Is it just the NATO perverts .......
        1. +2
          27 July 2014 23: 08
          ZVIZDETS-in the daytime I wrote this comment-purely so I KNOCKED, but I look at "Vremya" -they (dill) in NATURE looking for grandmother for ATO in PM, SEVERELY offer (at least discuss) LEGALIZED PROSTITUTION and SALE OF HERBS !!!!!!
          They say, they defended, it turns out that with PROSTITUTOK it is possible to fuck both with ALL railroads of Ukropia (I’m in OTADA) and from grass - 1000000000 XNUMX XNUMX XNUMXgr (billion) + tourists from
          GAY BEARS like flies on a GUANO trample-still a penny.
          And all this IS SERIOUSLY !!!!!!!!!!! WHAT NEXT ??? LEGAL disassembly of organs, sale of children to pedophiles (sorry, but I, unlike dill, have FANTASY, well, they’ll definitely muddle the thread , I'm just scared) ????????? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
          And it is their NECRAY that has locked them, and WHAT IS WINTER ??? !!!!
          1. Makosha
            +1
            27 July 2014 23: 33
            Quote: demon1978
            They say, they defended, it turns out that with PROSTITUTOK it is possible to fuck both with ALL railroads of Ukropia (I’m in OTADA) and from grass - 1000000000 XNUMX XNUMX XNUMXgr (billion) + tourists from
            GAY BEARS like flies on a GUANO trample-still a penny.

            For sure, trampling is exotic: prostitutes are white, and in stacks ... Yes, even closer and cheaper than Thailand.
            Quote: demon1978
            And all this is SERIOUSLY !!!!!!!!!!! WHAT next ??? LEGAL disassembly of organs, sale of children to pedophiles (sorry, but I, unlike dill, FANTASY has ended, ..
            And it is their NECRAY that has locked them, and WHAT IS WINTER ??? !!!!

            It already goes. It seems that the supply of organs has been established, even advertising can not be taken care of.
            Now you don’t have to think about winter either - Shell will supply them with shale, and they will drive him to Europe through the Russian pipe ...
      2. +1
        28 July 2014 00: 49
        They have no tension with fishing !!!! Ukrainian prostitutes in neighboring countries will work without problems !!!!!!!!!!!!

        This is their secret psychotronic weapon.
        They tried to use it already in March, but they pressed the wrong button - the action "Don't let the Russian" came out ...
  7. +12
    27 July 2014 16: 11
    To meet the deadline, factory workers work in 2-3 shifts

    Have you forgotten to skip during work? Performance may not increase, but otherwise the Bandera machine will not work!
  8. +5
    27 July 2014 16: 12
    Scared a hedgehog with a bare ass!
    And again, it was developed by the Eastern Slavs ... Unfortunately, they will be used against them!
  9. +9
    27 July 2014 16: 13
    Ultralight? That is, it will break through from any type of weapon? In general, of course, repair plants must be disabled. And on the other hand, where did the militias get the equipment and spare parts from ...
    1. +11
      27 July 2014 16: 16
      Ultralight are only buggies. And it’s hard to break through, grenades and shells fly right through ...
      1. +27
        27 July 2014 16: 52
        Quote: RusDV
        Ultralight are only buggies

        Maybe ultralight is something like this!
        1. 0
          27 July 2014 21: 48
          And from behind to write "Fuck catch up!"
          1. 0
            27 July 2014 22: 17
            Quote: wanderer987
            And from the back to write
            you won't run away, but from the front I will "fucking catch up"
    2. 0
      27 July 2014 16: 27
      Quote: Zomanus
      Of course, repair plants must be disabled.


      Yes, this idea has overwhelmed me for a long time. Disable, let not the factories themselves (many victims of civilians), but transformer substations, water supply communications, railway access roads ... etc.
      1. 0
        27 July 2014 22: 21
        Quote: persei
        transformer substations

        and nothing else is needed. Because everything is "powered" by electricity. But there is a cooler "technology" on this topic, but you can't write about it. We, too, have this "Domokles sword" exists.
  10. +8
    27 July 2014 16: 14
    While the mothers of the soldiers are worn out, demanding that they be returned home, the popes are working properly for war. At this plant, it is time to open the conversion production of zinc coffins. Maybe then it will come that riding on the Maidan is already in the past. The country is falling apart.
  11. +5
    27 July 2014 16: 16
    I believe in the end of the war! Off topic, but from the heart! hi
    New Russia - you have a future !!!
    1. +2
      27 July 2014 16: 20
      To meet the deadline, factory workers work in 2-3 shifts

      By "term", apparently, is meant a complete ass. So, already in time ...
  12. +5
    27 July 2014 16: 17
    Ultralight? This is probably plywood. Just for wooden warriors. It would be better if the top cover was immediately baited with nails. And a hammer in a set with a wreath. Welcome to Donbass.
    1. +10
      27 July 2014 18: 30
      Quote: O. Bender
      Ultralight? This is probably plywood. Just for wooden warriors

      Apparently not quite plywood. In 2013, the Polish company Mista bought a license from Ukraine to manufacture the Dozor-B armored vehicle. At the MSPO-2013 arms exhibition in Poland, a Dozor-B variant called "Ocilla" was demonstrated
      The first armored car "Ocilla" was assembled at the Kiev armored plant, in the future all production will be carried out in Poland.
      1. +7
        27 July 2014 19: 25
        Thank you for your comments, it’s hard to read the unreasonable rzhach of the not thinking urapatriot when things in Novorossia are very difficult.
        1. 0
          27 July 2014 21: 03
          Well, here everyone is morally charged with optimism, if New Russia comes kirdyk and subpoenas are sent to the locals for the war for the Crimea - which is very likely ...
          1. 0
            27 July 2014 22: 32
            Now, not even models of aircraft and tanks matter, but anti-ballistic equipment on them. We were taught this in Georgia when they shot down two aircraft that were not equipped with anti-radar equipment. And what can U. bugs install on their equipment?
            1. 0
              27 July 2014 22: 42
              Did you write this to me?
        2. +1
          27 July 2014 22: 28
          Quote: nemec55
          when things are very difficult in Novorossia.

          I wouldn't say that. After all, what do the bedbugs say on TV: "At 16 o'clock the battalion came here, and at 16:15 he was gone. 200 three hundred and 60 two hundred. There are four of us left alive. In the hospital we were fed with pills and valerian. It's you, - they say - mow from battles. " “The soldiers take the equipment into the field and throw it there. The separatists just come and take it.” Even the Zapadn.Entsy are already raising their voices and burning mob.list.
    2. 0
      27 July 2014 23: 12
      Quote: O. Bender
      Ultralight? This is probably plywood. Just for wooden warriors. It would be better if the top cover was immediately baited with nails. And a hammer in a set with a wreath. Welcome to Donbass.

      Or maybe plasterboard?
  13. +5
    27 July 2014 16: 19
    As I understand it, ultralight is for that. So that you can be ultrafast
    u ... be with the front line?
    1. 0
      27 July 2014 22: 33
      Quote: sounddoc
      superfast
      Oh, the tachanka Ukrovchanka!
  14. +4
    27 July 2014 16: 19
    Quote: Zomanus
    Ultralight? That is, it will break through from any type of weapon? In general, of course, repair plants must be disabled. And on the other hand, where did the militias get the equipment and spare parts from ...



    Ultralight, this is apparently portable. Carried by three soldiers.
  15. leron
    +6
    27 July 2014 16: 23
    three engines per month))) !!! it is too much.
  16. +27
    27 July 2014 16: 24
    Ultralight is something like this
    1. +2
      27 July 2014 16: 30
      It's a little expensive ... and airfield cover plates are not the easiest thing. Most likely, this is a zinc box with a wreath and wheels ...
      1. +1
        27 July 2014 17: 48
        Quote: RusDV
        It's a little expensive ... and airfield cover plates are not the easiest thing. Most likely, this is a zinc box with a wreath and wheels ...

        I think this is "armor-metal-tile", and in the back there is a booth "M" "F", so to speak, "without leaving the cash register."
      2. 0
        27 July 2014 23: 18
        Quote: RusDV
        It's a little expensive ... and airfield cover plates are not the easiest thing. Most likely, this is a zinc box with a wreath and wheels ...

        And a finished monument with a fence in the back.
    2. avt
      +6
      27 July 2014 16: 32
      Quote: DEZINTO
      Ultralight is something like this


      Nah! This is average. laughing It’s super light when the lining has already been stolen and only the frame remains.
    3. +2
      27 July 2014 16: 38
      In the photo, it’s rather not ultra-light armored cars, but nano-armored cars. wassat
    4. +1
      27 July 2014 17: 58
      Quote: DEZINTO
      Ultralight is something like this

      the airfield of the jump was dismantled ... but hell to them? left one and a half glider already! laughing
    5. 0
      27 July 2014 18: 23
      Coffins carriages.
  17. 0
    27 July 2014 16: 24
    Yes, it was invented before them. Convertible called. And it goes fast, and the breeze blows the crew.
  18. +7
    27 July 2014 16: 28
    Watch, http://topwar.ru/489-btr-dozor-b-ukraina.html
    1. +6
      27 July 2014 16: 50
      On the sites did not find the parameters of armor protection.
      A 14,5 mm B-32 bullet weighing 64 g provides penetration of 20 mm armor mounted at an angle of 20 ° to the vertical at a distance of 300 m. (1932 issue).
      Sorry for the car - it’ll flash through
      1. +6
        27 July 2014 17: 16
        The Dozor-B case is made of armored steel and provides protection against armor-piercing bullets of 7,62 mm caliber. The armored personnel carrier glazing provides protection similar to the main armor protection.

        This resource did not indicate the distance from which they were tested. If you do not take into account the machine gun - cash collection machine
        1. 0
          28 July 2014 01: 04
          This resource did not indicate the distance from which they were tested. If you do not take into account the machine gun - cash collection machine


          Poles on the licensed version immediately strengthened the engine and protection.
          The Polish version of Dozor-B will be called Ocilla and will be modified to ensure compliance with NATO ballistic and mine defense standards. ... by equipping the vehicle with armor plates and Polish-made equipment that meets NATO standards, as well as driving axles and wheels. At the next stage of development, it is planned to equip the machine with a combat module with remote control, which will replace a single tower.
          ... the upgraded BBM Otsilla weighs 9 tons, is equipped with a new engine, an outboard booking package, seats that mitigate the effects of a mine explosion, and can be equipped with various weapons.

          Those. The original version is GUANO.
          Replaced: motor, chassis, weapons, seats, armor protection ...
          What is left? Design?
      2. +1
        27 July 2014 22: 43
        The cliff pierces 10 mm of armor at 1000 meters, with a steel core close in hardness to diamond. It can be assumed that according to the theory of ballistics from 500 meters to 40 mm, and from 250 m to 55 mm of armor. Or maybe more ...
    2. +5
      27 July 2014 16: 53
      Klim2011 (1) SU Today, 16:28 New
      Watch, http://topwar.ru/489-btr-dozor-b-ukraina.html

      This is what ???? !!! - a special car shtob for a puff to drive ???? !!! (so that "eight-day" cars do not drive)
      1. 0
        27 July 2014 17: 09
        If it were just for beer, the right-wingers would go perfectly! But I strongly doubt it.
        But seriously, it’s a completely normal device, the Poles bought a license for production, it will provide protection against small arms and fragments, a large caliber will break it, but KK and the armor are flashing, because for this reason no one undertakes to say that the armor is a useful thing.
        PS can manage to stir up our diversion in production, it would not be bad.
        1. 0
          28 July 2014 01: 14
          It is said in the article NOT ABOUT THE SERIES, but about the ATTEMPT to establish a release. The Poles bought the license in 2011 and "It took the Polish company two years to prepare the production line and purchase the necessary equipment." Question: how much will Lviv need?
      2. HAM
        +4
        27 July 2014 17: 22
        Some have already arrived for vodka, the militias know where they "bite" well.
    3. leglun
      +1
      27 July 2014 16: 59
      Duck is the same LUAZIK with a machine gun. HA_HA
    4. +1
      27 July 2014 16: 59
      According to the publication, the production of light modern armored personnel carriers "Dozor", the project of which was developed at the Morozov Kharkov Bureau, began in the shops of the enterprise.
      And earlier it was reported that Poland bought the rights to it and was going to produce it ...
    5. +5
      27 July 2014 17: 06
      Ukraine - one "Dozor-B" in July 2013 received the training and material base of the Military Academy of Odessa [13]; On May 31, 2014, the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs A. Avakov announced the possibility of acquiring Dozor armored vehicles for the National Guard of Ukraine [14], and the next day he announced that Dozor-B would be sent for testing [15]. On June 4, 2014, the second Dozor-B was presented at the National Guard training ground near Chuguev, Kharkiv region [16] [17]. On June 6, 2014, Acting President of Ukraine Oleksandr Turchynov announced that 200 Dozor-B armored vehicles would enter service with the Ukrainian army.

      And we are surprised that they don’t pay for gas, is there absolutely no money, not even a small jar? Here they are, money
      1. 0
        27 July 2014 19: 05
        Plywood box - coffin on wheels
      2. 0
        28 July 2014 01: 16
        Here they are, money

        Yes, it’s not money, but talk about their FUTURE cut. So far, no money, no, let alone "Dozorov".
    6. +1
      27 July 2014 18: 04
      the machine does not look very bad.
      1. 0
        28 July 2014 01: 18
        the machine does not look very bad.
        Those. "pretty"?

        So the Poles in the licensed version did not change the design. Only one design ...
    7. +2
      27 July 2014 18: 58
      Are they being remodeled from Zaporozhtsev? Dviglo is similar with air cooling.
      The beast was a car, wheels from agricultural machinery - what the hell is an SUV, even the most prepared will crawl behind it.
    8. 0
      27 July 2014 23: 52
      Cooling is in question.
      With a talented designer, it is better than a samovar))
  19. +22
    27 July 2014 16: 28
    And they also have a powerful aircraft industry
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    2. +7
      27 July 2014 17: 07
      Nope! Accessories-Izhevsk !! laughing
  20. +5
    27 July 2014 16: 30
    "Prestigious Overseas Agreement" ... Are these two tractors in Zimbabwe?
  21. faint93
    +7
    27 July 2014 16: 30
    ..on it all the civilian "tankers" underwent practical training (Baumanka, St. Petersburg, Chelyabinsk Polytechnic University ..) .. I remember the wine was treated to homemade ones .. the good won out ... it was disgusting at heart ...
  22. +1
    27 July 2014 16: 30
    Very soon, two BREM-1 units, four BTR-80 and three tank engines will be ready for operation.

    There is an opinion that they collect equipment there "on their knees", piece goods laughing
  23. +6
    27 July 2014 16: 32
    "Master the technique of making parts." "To be independent from the Russian manufacturer." Another propaganda toad! This is possible for single and pilot production. The cost of such parts is higher than serial ones, and the quality, in the absence of native process cards, is low. And most likely they make something that can be made by machining and welding, well, in part - which is simpler, by casting and stamping. Everything is approximate. Either from several machines, collect one. Since Soviet times, not all tanks have been cut into scrap metal.
  24. +1
    27 July 2014 16: 32
    Lviv plant took over the production of ultra-light BTR

    Lviv plant took on the production of ultralight coffins.
  25. +3
    27 July 2014 16: 34
    The ultralight armored personnel carrier is something new in armored vehicles. Probably just as easily destroyed, according to the classification. We also take into account the national dill sport - theft. Good luck stealing dill. laughing
  26. 0
    27 July 2014 16: 38
    On shmat fat and this technique will change ukrobaytsy!
  27. Mishanya 84
    +3
    27 July 2014 16: 38
    Maybe Chubais will be invited as director? Help budget master wink
  28. +4
    27 July 2014 16: 39
    Lviv plant took over the production of ultra-light BTR

    carts, what? Old Man Makhno probably wept.

    Oh, a tachanka-rastamanka, Lviv pride and beauty!
    Protoucre tachanka all four wheels!
  29. SEK
    SEK
    +19
    27 July 2014 16: 41
    Maybe this is a "prestigious foreign order" ;-)
  30. +8
    27 July 2014 16: 42
    Here is a photo of the hero of the occasion. It turns out a liquid parody of our Tiger and the State Hammer at the same time ...
    The axles with the gearboxes are obviously removed from the armored personnel carriers ... Engines with Iveco or Deutz (interestingly, the same used one as the axles?). And the armor, from the old boiler iron? And where are the cumulative lattices from the grave
    fences?
    And why is it not visible ukro know how-armor armor?
    1. +2
      27 July 2014 17: 27
      And why can’t you see the armor of the armor armor? ..... you don’t have anything, they’ll soon have something, the American bosses, the bed net will be delivered to them, then the production of ultralight will turn around.
    2. +3
      27 July 2014 17: 42
      Quote: AlNikolaich
      And why is it not visible ukro know how-armor armor?


      What for? For this technique, a heavy machine gun is already a deadly weapon, it will pierce through. It makes no sense to spend on such a grenade.
  31. +1
    27 July 2014 16: 50
    To buy something that is not needed, you must first sell something that is not needed, and they do not need it. So what will they do?
  32. +5
    27 July 2014 16: 50
    After the assembly of the machine, a full-scale check is expected at the tankodrome.

    Already passed and applied (there are first REVIEWS from the front)
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  34. Arh
    +2
    27 July 2014 16: 55
    It will burn well !!!)))
  35. DPN
    +1
    27 July 2014 17: 00
    We followed in the footsteps of Russia. At one time, Russian industry was pulled by foreign orders - India, Ukrainians also do, it’s a pity that all this works against Russia. It seems that they have fooled us with GAS in full. With the help of Russian gas and for our money, their military power rises against the southeast is very bad.
    1. RUSLAT
      +1
      27 July 2014 17: 46
      What is this power? Three engines a month? My neighbor in the garage does more .....
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      2. +1
        27 July 2014 17: 58
        RUSLAT LV Today, 17:46 ↑ New
        What is this power? Three engines a month? My neighbor in the garage does more .....

        So then "k.atza.p" -they are SUCH-and here while sviznesh cho-thread, while for bacon with gorika makhnesh (salary is unlikely to pay much) and then you need to rivet MANDULOVIN
        So that's it-BUT !!!!
        to the photo, with a surname confused, read Khokhlov
        1. 0
          28 July 2014 01: 24
          read Khokhlova

          Then "Khokhlenko" or "Khokhlyuka" ... wink
      3. +1
        27 July 2014 23: 14
        Yes, do not argue.
        It's like they have an idling engine "Everything is bad, bad, bad, bad in Russia."
  36. 0
    27 July 2014 17: 01
    Here, too, cranks bulbashiki.And what kind of enlightenment is it that they appeared to create light armored personnel carriers?
    1. 0
      27 July 2014 18: 09
      dchegrinec SU Today, 17:01 AM
      Here, too, cranks bulbashiki.And what kind of enlightenment is it that they appeared to create light armored personnel carriers?

      They have one more KNOW-HOW on their way: super-light multi-seat LISAPED-stealth for quick and inconspicuous Dumping in Poln or Romania with the whole family. VERY popular in Western Zap will soon !!! Urgent patent !!!
      AT prototype off-road (single for now)
  37. 0
    27 July 2014 17: 05
    Новое- хорошо забытое старое-http://go.mail.ru/search_images?q=%D0%A2%D0%B0%D1%87%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0
    % B0 & fr = web & rch = l # urlhash = 258055450796008689
  38. +3
    27 July 2014 17: 10
    3 engines, 4 three-wheel drive and 3 nurses. A very powerful plant. Looks like a collective farm MTS. The same production levels.
  39. +2
    27 July 2014 17: 11
    Meanwhile, in the Russian spring they write that a large group of armored vehicles of the security forces entered Shakhtersk ... It is somehow sad at heart .. they are slowly cutting off Donetsk from Lugansk. I can’t understand one thing — this group of surrounded brigades in the southern cauldron. Already someone just did not shout that they had no fuel or ammunition left and now you get ...
    1. +9
      27 July 2014 18: 27
      To be honest, I myself do not understand anymore in these reports. Either everything is fine "beautiful marquise", then the scribe crept up unnoticed ...
      1. +1
        27 July 2014 22: 52
        And what can be understood in a guerrilla war. You get up in the morning, the boots were stolen, while the boots were looking for, the tank was squandered.
    2. Penachet
      +2
      27 July 2014 22: 06
      At antique dealers they said that it was a stuffing, Shakhtersk was not busy.
  40. +5
    27 July 2014 17: 12
    Quote: kyznets
    "Master the technique of making parts." "To be independent from the Russian manufacturer." Another propaganda toad! This is possible for single and pilot production. The cost of such parts is higher than serial ones, and the quality, in the absence of native process cards, is low. And most likely they make something that can be made by machining and welding, well, in part - which is simpler, by casting and stamping. Everything is approximate. Either from several machines, collect one. Since Soviet times, not all tanks have been cut into scrap metal.

    Well, you said stupidity? For a single and experimental production, the manufacturing process does not at all correspond to the serial. Therefore, do not care whether there is a native TP or not. And they really surprised me with the thought that it is easier to make stamping. Easier if there are stamps. But after all, they are also to be prepared. I assure you that the qualification of the healer should be higher than the usual machinist.
  41. +2
    27 July 2014 17: 12
    This type of UAZ Nikolaev? Or mobile-chi not mobile booths, also, like, Mikolaevsky? .
  42. +1
    27 July 2014 17: 13
    Ultralight - as I understand it on bicycle traction.
  43. 0
    27 July 2014 17: 15
    Will they work on credit?
  44. 0
    27 July 2014 17: 18
    In general, they pretty surprised me. This is a state owned enterprise. And they consider it a valor to work in 2-3 shifts? In 2, they work for sure, and so. A separate production in 3. Why hang the noodles?
  45. +3
    27 July 2014 17: 22
    It is quite suitable for killing civilians, and Ukrainians cannot fight anyone else. Today's shelling of Gorlovka confirmed this once again. A family with a one-year-old child, torn apart by shells, is, according to Poroshenko, also terrorists ... There are simply no words, not a single censorship word ... Photo on "Russian Spring", who has not yet seen.
  46. 0
    27 July 2014 17: 27
    Notice the lions are western Ukraine, well, who would doubt that they were climbing over there, that would at least help in the destruction of the Russians. True, for the sake of justice, it is worth noting the shocking contribution to this shameful thing for both Kharkovites (repair of armored vehicles) and Kremenchugs (armored cars), and we chew all the snot, save the uninhabited Nazis, let them through and provide medical assistance to the fascist executioners am
  47. 0
    27 July 2014 17: 27
    the armored personnel carrier is obviously made of polystyrene foam and covered in burlap, that’s what the ultralight in Lviv means
  48. 0
    27 July 2014 17: 28
    Whatever you put in, a person who does not know how and does not want to fight everything.
  49. 0
    27 July 2014 17: 30
    Quote: demon1978
    Strashila (1) RU Today, 16:10 New
    "I had to postpone the implementation of a prestigious foreign agreement" ... money in Ukraine, like a fool of candy wrappers ... currency is not needed

    They have no tension with fishing !!!! Ukrainian prostitutes in neighboring countries will work without problems !!!!!!!!!!!!

    And something is sour faces, with those on the panel, except that they will work for candy wrappers.
    1. 0
      27 July 2014 17: 48
      And something is sour faces, with those on the panel, except that they will work for candy wrappers.

      And what to rejoice when the budget for ALL of Ukropia was sent to work out, it’s the ENTIRE PICTURE-SHOCK !!!! Repairs later until retirement !!! What a joy ?????

      And what: with those on the panel, except for candy wrappers and earn.
      so nothing, they will cover the horns with zhovto-blakid RAGS, the soundtrack "Ukropina has not died yet" is tightened, you see, there is still an allowance for "non-sagging" OTSASUT
  50. djtyysq
    +1
    27 July 2014 17: 32
    And for the "Grad" there is no difference whether it is heavy or light! This will definitely "BLOW".
  51. +1
    27 July 2014 17: 44
    some kind of Stakhanovites work in 2-3 shifts, something this reminds me
  52. Black ensign
    0
    27 July 2014 17: 44
    They can make blinds from cardboard.
  53. +1
    27 July 2014 17: 52
    BM "DOZOR"
    1. +3
      27 July 2014 18: 37
      Hmm, I drive over speed bumps in the Sonata. Is he afraid of damaging the balls?
      2. Off topic, but how the militia should act... Nature itself suggests:
    2. RUSLAT
      +1
      27 July 2014 18: 51
      Where is the armored car? It's something like a UAZ but barely crawls. What is especially touching is the armor on the Glushak, which clings to the ground when rocking, and the machine gun, in order to shoot you have to get out of the hatch, but what will it look like on the move, and even in the pits....?
    3. +5
      27 July 2014 18: 51
      Ours will be cooler! BM "WOLF"
      1. +4
        27 July 2014 18: 53
        Another “THEME” that everyone knows!
        1. +6
          27 July 2014 18: 55
          This is our “DOZOR” based on KAMAZ, otherwise called “Vystrel”.
  54. RUSLAT
    +4
    27 July 2014 17: 52
    Judging by the volume, this armored plant is no larger than a collective farm workshop. And the quality will be at the same level, they also cast the armor themselves, is there a foundry? Most likely this is a type of advertising, “how strong and invincible Ukraine is...”
    1. +2
      27 July 2014 18: 16
      Quote: RUSLAT
      Judging by the volume, this armored plant is no larger than a collective farm workshop. And the quality will be at the same level, they also cast the armor themselves, is there a foundry? Most likely this is a type of advertising, “how strong and invincible Ukraine is...”

      Plant named after Malysheva". We would like to remind you that in October 2012, the Economic Court of the Kharkov Region opened a case for its bankruptcy at the claim of the creditor - the state-owned enterprise Lviv Armored Plant. The debt of Kharkov residents to Lviv residents amounts to more than 512 million UAH.

      Now it is difficult to say what the bankruptcy of the “tank legend” on which the famous T-34 of the Great Patriotic War was created will lead to. Plant named after Malysheva is part of the Ukroboronprom state concern, as is the Lviv Armored Plant. The bankruptcy of one enterprise by another is nonsense. Previously, officials stated that the bankruptcy of the plant named after. Malysheva is just a formality. But recently, more and more evidence has emerged that the plant is going bankrupt in order to be taken over by one of the oligarchic groups. Both Lviv and Kharkov are worth each other. Both factories are in ruins.
      1. RUSLAT
        0
        27 July 2014 19: 02
        In the EU, bankruptcies most often occur before a change of ownership. Usually the owner is a representative of a large Western company. After a change of owner, workers are fired, and the plant is sold piecemeal, that is, liquidated. This is called eliminating competitors......
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  56. 0
    27 July 2014 17: 54
    collaborators!..
    What kind of “ultra-light” armored personnel carriers are these? two wheels, a steering wheel and a moped engine? quite in spirit...
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  58. 0
    27 July 2014 18: 02
    To freaks from freaks, nothing will help. I don't even want to discuss it.
    Donbass will still need scrap metal in open-hearth furnaces.
  59. katalonec. 2014
    0
    27 July 2014 18: 15
    Super light or heavy, what difference does it make? Well, it’s clear that if they do, it will be made exclusively from scrap metal, but where will they get the money, to dress the soldiers, put them in shoes, have nothing to feed them, and they are mass-produced, and even at a repair plant. Just a dream idiots.
  60. Simonov
    +1
    27 July 2014 18: 21
    Smart plant directors are trying to quickly mold iron into something like “iron kaput-2”, while the government has money. But money is not endless.
  61. +5
    27 July 2014 18: 37
    Almost all comments are verbal diarrhea of ​​immatures on the topic of plywood. They ostracize each other, but they themselves haven’t even read about this car, haven’t expressed their opinion. Looks like the Military Review website...
  62. 0
    27 July 2014 18: 40
    Quote: punk
    Quote: igorkuzik
    While they make a prototype, ukria will fall apart!

    he has a prototype on his desk. there wasn’t enough gold for more

    Most likely coated with titanium nitrite, the gold would not be on the table (I would have sold it a long time ago).
  63. +1
    27 July 2014 18: 40
    War is war, but the budget is cut? Dill's favorite sport is stealing everything that is allowed and not allowed on any shift. And nothing will help them anymore. Time is over. At all.
  64. 0
    27 July 2014 18: 40
    looks like the Turkish Cobra, and setting up production is not an easy task. Ivekovsky or Deutsch engine - you have to pay. How many cars will be produced per month?
  65. 0
    27 July 2014 18: 43
    Send the DRG to Chernigov and burn down the repair plant.
  66. +1
    27 July 2014 18: 47
    And as always: a new prodigy of the Right Sectors. now with chains.
    1. 0
      27 July 2014 18: 51
      Although... maybe I got carried away...
    2. +2
      27 July 2014 19: 05
      universal soldier truck reminded
  67. +6
    27 July 2014 18: 53
    It’s in vain that you are all mocking here... Hatred of Russia is off the charts, and most of all in those areas that we have always considered “Russian”.
    At the same Malyshev plant in Kharkov there are posters in Russian “Each armored vehicle unit put into service is another nail in the coffin of Putlerov’s Russia.”

    Kharkov workers, with an enthusiasm worthy of other uses, plow in three shifts to ensure the army’s victory over Putin’s terrorists in the neighboring Donbass..
    1. RUSLAT
      +1
      27 July 2014 21: 10
      Recently there was a message that all the tanks that came from the Kharkov plant could not shoot, and soon could not drive....... So ordinary people do not want to “hammer nails into the coffin”.....
  68. -1
    27 July 2014 18: 54
    It’s better to let them master the production of light coffins. It will be more profitable.
  69. +8
    27 July 2014 18: 58
    In the comments there is only nonsense about the backwardness and plywood of technology and industry, and the most dangerous thing is to UNDERESTIMATE the enemy, which is what is happening now. Do you know how many infantry fighting vehicles KMZ (Kurgan Machine-Building Plant) makes per year? If not, then I’ll give you a hint - 12 aircraft per year and this is a city-forming enterprise, so our industry is also not at its best, and KumAPP produces 4-6 helicopters per year. So there is no need for jingoism, we need to help Novorossiya with deeds, and here you are only putting down disadvantages, disgraces, and our guarantor, there are NO words - only obscenities.
    1. +2
      27 July 2014 20: 09
      Leonid, to help Novorossiya there is a fundraising and support mat on the website (look in the news there were reports on shipments)
      And regarding the comments on this technique, most newcomers to the site have encountered only one representative of armored vehicles in their lives, this is a frying pan laughing .
      Don’t judge strictly, whoever wants to figure it out, there is more than enough information on technology on the site hi
      1. assa79
        0
        27 July 2014 21: 56
        a frying pan is not an armored vehicle! This is just one of the spare parts!)
  70. 0
    27 July 2014 19: 02
    These are like valiant home front workers??? hiwi it! (Hilfswillige)
  71. +2
    27 July 2014 19: 31
    How do you like this news? Armored personnel carriers of the 0dn0g0 class will be “on topic”.
    The project to create a light amphibious armored vehicle ASTAIS-VBL in Russia within the framework of Russian-French military-technical cooperation is currently suspended. The executive director of the Russian JSC ASTAIS, Vladimir Babaev, told an ARMS-TASS correspondent about this today. Answering a question from ARMS-TASS about whether there are plans to demonstrate the ASTAIS-VBL armored vehicle at the Oboronexpo-2014 arms exhibition in Zhukovsky near Moscow on August 13-17, the director of the enterprise said that the prototype car would not be presented there. “We have currently suspended work on the project of this car due to the known political situation and sanctions against Russia,” he noted. http://www.arms-expo.ru/news/cooperation/sozdanie_v_rossii_broneavtomobilya_asta
    is_vbl_v_ramkakh_vts_rossii_i_frantsii_priostanovleno/
    1. RUSLAT
      +2
      27 July 2014 21: 12
      You need to make your military equipment without the participation of "temporary friends"... They are friends as long as you pay them more than your enemy.....
  72. +3
    27 July 2014 19: 42
    Considering the upcoming problems with fuel, they urgently need to switch to producing armored bicycles.
  73. kudryan
    0
    27 July 2014 19: 56
    Let's not neglect our inventors...You won't learn in 10 classes what we were rich in
  74. Everest2014
    +1
    27 July 2014 20: 05
    Quote: RUSLAT
    Most likely this is a type of advertising, “how strong and invincible Ukraine is...”

    Well, the dill killers from the National Guard once posted a video - there is a bulletproof vest pierced by a 5.45 bullet.

    Cut the loot, mow down the loot and the army is a brainless mug,
    They don’t count money, they have a lot of stupid meat,
    They don’t care, some will die and the authorities will recruit new ones.
    As long as they know how to pay, they get embroidered shirts made from armor or new wheeled coffins,
    I don’t care that the quality of that steel was slightly superior.
    When the fun in the country ends and the money runs out completely - goodbye to the burning land,
    That azure shore is closer to me, where there are no thieves, animals and lies.

    Yes, Svidomitiki?
  75. +1
    27 July 2014 20: 08
    I repeat
    A couple of days ago I came across a comment on nnm:
    Here they leaked an insider that dill in Kharkov is being quickly dismantled and transported for 7 days to Zhitomir/Vinnitsa/Lviv Transport Engineering Plant named after. Malysheva (tank, main site and lines of 1st order), armored repair plant (Kotlova 191) and Komunar + Khartron partially (remains of the USSR military-industrial complex, these are space and RSN). Instrument-making is being prepared - optics, guidance and bombing devices

    I asked if this was true.
    if true, the Ukrainian government is trying to create a production base in the west of the country.
    Maybe a division is coming and they are trying to take over what is still functional.
    1. assa79
      +1
      27 July 2014 22: 00
      In general, this is an indicator if they dump. this means that everything is very bad for them... but this is on the one hand, unless American bombing is coming in those parts and they told you to take out what is useful... oh oh..
  76. +3
    27 July 2014 20: 11
    Popasnaya has been released! good
  77. 0
    27 July 2014 20: 14
    We must do as the United States did in Yugoslavia. Peacefully bomb the plant.
    1. assa79
      +1
      27 July 2014 22: 03
      If the United States had not acted like the United States did in Yugoslavia, it would not have ruined the entire South-East for peacekeeping...(((
  78. 0
    27 July 2014 20: 17
    They will be late with full-scale production, and piecemeal production will not catch up with the junta’s losses in the southeast. Soon there will be no Ukraine.
  79. Everest2014
    +1
    27 July 2014 20: 26
    I smell the proto-Ukrainian stink :) He’s indignant and puts down minuses. Go Svidomo jump, sing your favorite chants, maybe you’ll feel better.
    ---
    I give you a pig-eater avatar, the main thing is don’t leave us:
  80. 0
    27 July 2014 20: 27
    Again, some stinking troll has started up on the forum (judging by the obviously Bandera-like minuses of the forum members). Moderators ah!
    1. 0
      27 July 2014 20: 48
      Quote: Rigla
      Again, some stinking troll has started up on the forum (judging by the obviously Bandera-like minuses of the forum members). Moderators ah!

      If you speak now on your own behalf, then this is your right, but if on someone else’s behalf, then you do not have such a right.
      Now on the merits.
      It is the right of every visitor to add pros or cons. So there is no need to label them here on the forum. Any other questions?!
  81. 0
    27 July 2014 20: 36
    The fact that it's light is good. When I served conscripts, they didn’t give me diesel fuel, so I pushed everything out of the boxes manually, both armored personnel carriers and BM-21s. So, let the boys go for a ride and release about a dozen of them; neither the money nor the production is designed for more.
  82. 0
    27 July 2014 20: 47
    Well, glory to the Russian engineers from fraternal Kharkov!
  83. 0
    27 July 2014 20: 52
    To meet the deadline, factory workers work 2-3 shifts. After assembly, the vehicle will undergo a full-scale inspection at the tankodrome.

    ...This energy would be for peaceful purposes... (c)
  84. +4
    27 July 2014 20: 54
    They give birth, of course. Although there are probably plenty of “morons” too. I don’t know what they invented there, but we shouldn’t forget that there were a lot of engineers from the USSR there - in closed design bureaus. Really, how many of them are left today? what
    Gentlemen, I don’t quite understand the desire to “downvote” unpleasant information: She didn’t make me happy either - but this is just information released by the author of the article! After all, he didn’t distort anything, didn’t show any joy about the essence - why the minuses? request smile I think we just need to take note of it in order to better navigate.
    1. +1
      28 July 2014 01: 46
      Gentlemen, I don’t quite understand the desire to “downvote” unpleasant information: it didn’t make me happy either - but this is just information made public by the author of the article! After all, he didn’t distort anything, didn’t show any joy about the essence - why the minuses? request smile I think you just need to take note of it in order to better navigate.


      I, too, have been surprised for a long time: it is not the article that is downvoted (style, information content, correctness, etc.), but the TOPIC of the article: “pleasant or unpleasant.” The logic is, to put it mildly, strange. Like that padishah who executed the messenger for bad news...
  85. +1
    27 July 2014 20: 57
    Where does the money come from? They underpaid for gas. And now they are frolicking. Reptiles
  86. +2
    27 July 2014 21: 15
    Quote: askof
    Poroshenko would better fix the brains

    Feces in the skull cannot be treated.
  87. Everest2014
    0
    27 July 2014 21: 25
    Quote: Apollon
    If you speak now on your own behalf, then this is your right, but if on someone else’s behalf, then you do not have such a right.

    Apollo, have you listed the cons? Well, it's just interesting.
    1. +1
      27 July 2014 21: 32
      Quote: everest2014
      Apollo, have you listed the cons?

      Well, first of all, I’m not some kind of bro, communicate with your peers like that.
      Secondly, don’t poke me, young man.
      And finally, the last thing, in general, I am not obligated to report to you, but I will write to you like this, if I had given any negatives to your comments, you would already be in turtles.
      My main task is to maintain order on the forum.
  88. Mih
    0
    27 July 2014 21: 36
    Quote: aleksandr-budarin1
    All that was left of the gold reserves of Ukraine - the rest was taken by the "rabbit" to the "mattress"

    But it’s interesting: everyone says that the dill have no money, but they shoot hail and tanks crawl, which are destroyed by the militia. The militias, at this time, are losing strategic points. All this is very strange, especially in Donetsk. Donetsk lives like an ordinary city and drinks beer. How shoud I understand this? I do not understand this. belay
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  90. 0
    27 July 2014 21: 42
    so there’s nothing left to refuel as you’ll be driving)). These supposed deliveries, even if there are any, will all be for cutting.
  91. 0
    27 July 2014 21: 45
    The militia will find it useful when they capture them from the dill. laughing
  92. 0
    27 July 2014 21: 45
    Yanukovych had golden loaves of bread, and this director had golden models of tanks....
  93. 0
    27 July 2014 21: 56
    Quote: serega.fedotov
    It is still unknown how it will fight! If they collect it at all, if there is enough money, if it goes, if by then Ukraine will be completely foggy future

    Dill's budget has been exhausted; if you believe Yatsenyuk's words before his resignation, then there is no money even for kerosene.
  94. 0
    27 July 2014 22: 08
    I read all the comments and no one noted that the Lviv residents restored 700 pieces of equipment! I hope the lion’s share consists of those shot down in the Donbass! As for the bibika, it looks a lot like a Turkish “cobra”. I know they supplied them to Azerbaijan, maybe someone from there will tell about such a miracle?
  95. 0
    27 July 2014 22: 20
    one rat (rabbit) got off your ship, a lesson for you morons (prepare mousetraps for yourself)
  96. 0
    27 July 2014 22: 37
    ultra-light is probably ultra-cheap
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  98. +4
    27 July 2014 23: 04
    Quote: GRune
    Yes, they’re plowing in 2-3 shifts so that they won’t be taken into the army. Just...

    Yeah, they assemble it in two shifts, and dismantle it in a third - as long as it’s not for the army hi
  99. 0
    27 July 2014 23: 14
    According to the director of the plant, Alexander Ostapets, the company “had to postpone the implementation of a prestigious foreign agreement, because we are repairing our equipment out of turn.


    And show off, show off! That foreign agreement, probably with Georgia?
  100. shiman.1378
    0
    27 July 2014 23: 15
    FOR THE POINTS THEY WILL BUY FIVE PIECES AND WILL CAPTURE THEM UNTIL THEY ARE KNOCKED OUT...