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Until the end of the year, the Russian Navy will receive 50 ships

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By the end of this year, the Russian Navy will receive over 50 new types of ships of various classes, reports RIA News with reference to the press service of the Ministry of Defense of Russia.

Until the end of the year, the Russian Navy will receive 50 ships


“Construction of new ships and vessels for the Navy continues fleet. It is planned that by the end of 2014, the Navy will receive over 50 warships and support vessels of various classes ”
says the press service information.

According to the Ministry of Defense, at present, "work is underway to create groups of strategic missile submarines (RPLSN) in the Northern and Pacific Fleets." A multipurpose nuclear submarine "Severodvinsk" was transferred to the Navy.

In addition, work is underway on the construction of a series of patrol ships, Raptor assault boats and twelve modular rescue boats.

In addition, "launched a mine-sweeping ship of the new generation and the newest weapon transport Akademik Kovalev". And on the newest corvette "Resistant" St. Andrew's flag has already been raised.

According to the press service, the Black Sea Fleet has not been forgotten either. Now in the Crimea the ship structure is being updated, the fleet basing system is being restored and developed. Soon, the Black Sea Fleet will receive "6 patrol ships of the 1135.6 project and 6 diesel submarines of the 636 project", which will allow it to more effectively carry out tasks in its area of ​​responsibility.

The Caspian flotilla is currently being replenished with small rocket ships of the 21631 project. This will significantly improve security in the Caspian.

The Ministry of Defense also recalls that today, on Navy Day, naval bases and ceremonial events are being held at naval bases.
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  1. Tambov Wolf
    Tambov Wolf 27 July 2014 13: 24
    +22
    For everyone's interest. How to press a sofa dill after calculating it. Https: //www.youtube.com/watch? V = NvFAvKBcVWw
    1. Juborg
      Juborg 27 July 2014 13: 42
      +12
      And who doubted the "courage" of these broads? They'd rather burn a neighbor's shed in a quiet room or insult at the monitor, because he won't answer.
      1. dr.Bo
        dr.Bo 27 July 2014 14: 02
        +18
        Happy holiday sailors !!!!
        1. Army1
          Army1 27 July 2014 14: 20
          +11
          The fleet to be! I heartily congratulate you! Without a strong ocean fleet, there is no Super Power. Everything will be and the pace is pleasing! HOORAY drinks
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          2. Shveps
            Shveps 27 July 2014 14: 54
            +12
            Dynamics of changes in the number of warships in the ranks of the Russian Navy (without combat boats for various purposes) over the past 30 years

            BC Class 1981 1990 2000 2011

            SSBN 71 62 16 12
            PCBs (also with anti-ship missiles) 113 135 30 28
            PLASN 0 1 7 8
            NAPL (including with BR, RCC and CH) 202 160 20 21
            Submarine 386 358 73 69
            AB / AVK 3 4 1 1
            DK (DVKD + TDK) 118 112 34 21
            KR (KR and BOD) 40 40 7 6
            EM (EM & BOD) 89 57 17 18
            FR (including large TFRs) 30 32 10 5
            KVV (including RTOs, IPC and IAC) 177 193 58 49
            MTK (including ЗМ, МТЩ, БТЩ and РТЩ) 375 362 78 57
            BNK 832 800 205 157

            ALL BK 1218 1158 278 226

            Many of the combat capabilities of domestic weapons and military equipment developed by 20 – 25 years ago are still not surpassed by foreign competitors. This is especially true for ICBMs, anti-ship missiles, air defense systems, missile defense systems, mines and some samples of torpedoes and RTVs.

            Reducing the number of warships from 1158 in 1990 to 226 in 2011!
            Who brought the Russian Navy to the level of a fleet of a second-rate state?
            Where are Serdyukov and his patrons?
            Now we scream in all corners how beautiful we are.
            Do it first! Then URA.
            1. Chegevara21
              Chegevara21 27 July 2014 15: 06
              +3
              Eternal glory and memory to the fleet of the USSR !!! Such a powerful fleet we will no longer see in our lifetime .... But I want to believe ... crying
            2. Setrac
              Setrac 27 July 2014 15: 54
              +5
              Dear Shveps, your list is far-fetched; the USSR did not have four aircraft carriers, so helicopter carriers and carriers of vertical take-off aircraft were ranked among the aircraft carriers. All four AVK of the USSR are inferior to one of our AB. So you can go through the entire list.
              In addition, we must not forget that the USSR relied on an economy with a combined population of 360 million people, Russia - 140 million people.
              In addition, a decrease in the numerical composition of the fleet is observed in the fleets of ALL countries, including the USA, due to the increase in the cost of warships.
              1. Shveps
                Shveps 27 July 2014 16: 53
                +10
                Dear Setrac, it is highly commendable for your desire to justify the current government for the first positive steps after 20 years of transferring the country's economy to a "raw material pipe" and mockery of the Armed Forces, the only friends of the Russian State.

                Do not forget that the coastal zone after the breakup of the country remained with Russia.
                In addition, it is not clear where you got the information about the decrease in the US Navy.
                The U.S. thirty-year shipbuilding plan for the 2013-2042 financial years (published in April 2012 of the year) involves the construction of 70 large BNCs, which is about 26% of the total number of ships that are planned to be built as part of the thirty-year plan.
                1. Setrac
                  Setrac 27 July 2014 17: 36
                  0
                  Quote: Shveps
                  Do not forget that the coastal zone after the breakup of the country remained with Russia.

                  As a result of the rupture of the country, we lost precisely the southern shores, almost ALL of our shores are Arctic waters. There will NOT be American aircraft carriers there.

                  Quote: Shveps
                  In addition, it is not clear where you got the information about the decrease in the US Navy.

                  From sites dedicated to military topics, such as Rusarmi and stealth machines, and others.
              2. gorsten79
                gorsten79 27 July 2014 17: 49
                +3
                This is when in the USSR there was a population of 360 million people? I will not begin to search online, but in my opinion no more than 290 according to the latest census.
                1. Arberes
                  Arberes 27 July 2014 18: 30
                  +1
                  Quote: gorsten79
                  This is when in the USSR there was a population of 360 million people? I will not begin to search online, but in my opinion no more than 290 according to the latest census.

                  And even when the Nikolaev Union shipyards belonged to the Soviet Union!
                  So the comparison of today's Russia with the USSR is simply not correct in my opinion? drinks
                2. Setrac
                  Setrac 27 July 2014 20: 26
                  0
                  Quote: gorsten79
                  This is when the USSR had a population of 360 million people?

                  Together with the Warsaw Pact countries, which also built ships for our Navy, they were present in our economy.
              3. VSC
                VSC 27 July 2014 18: 46
                +2
                For Setras. The only "Russian" aircraft carrier - "Admiral Kuznetsov", was launched in 1985 and put into operation in 1991. The number of aircraft carriers is 6 aircraft and 2 helicopter carriers.
                1. Setrac
                  Setrac 27 July 2014 20: 32
                  -1
                  Quote: VSK
                  For Setras. The only "Russian" aircraft carrier - "Admiral Kuznetsov", was launched in 1985 and put into operation in 1991. The number of aircraft carriers is 6 aircraft and 2 helicopter carriers.

                  Why did you write this? Your thought is not clear!
              4. Dmitry Toderes
                Dmitry Toderes 27 July 2014 23: 00
                +2
                Quote: Setrac
                Dear Shveps, your list is far-fetched; the USSR did not have four aircraft carriers, so helicopter carriers and carriers of vertical take-off aircraft were ranked among the aircraft carriers. All four AVK of the USSR are inferior to one of our AB. So you can go through the entire list.
                In addition, we must not forget that the USSR relied on an economy with a combined population of 360 million people, Russia - 140 million people.
                In addition, a decrease in the numerical composition of the fleet is observed in the fleets of ALL countries, including the USA, due to the increase in the cost of warships.


                Russia has a population of 145 million people.
                1. Setrac
                  Setrac 27 July 2014 23: 02
                  0
                  Quote: Dmitry Toderese
                  Russia has a population of 145 million people.

                  Yes, this is not important in our APPROXIMATE calculations.
                  1. Dmitry Toderes
                    Dmitry Toderes 28 July 2014 20: 38
                    0
                    Quote: Setrac
                    Quote: Dmitry Toderese
                    Russia has a population of 145 million people.

                    Yes, this is not important in our APPROXIMATE calculations.


                    Fundamentally Illidan laughing. I understand there that, for example, the population of Romania, when calculating the mobilization reserve of NATO countries, you can not take into account due to the fact that they have an extremely bad army - Romanian special forces with a ram break a wooden door for 15 minutes (a lot of video certificates), but Russians need to be taken into account. Moreover, together with Crimea - Crimea is comparable in size and population with entire European countries.
                    1. Setrac
                      Setrac 31 July 2014 16: 59
                      0
                      Illidan? Do you like this game too?
          3. Serg65
            Serg65 28 July 2014 08: 05
            +5
            drinksfor those who are at sea! soldier
        2. 1812 1945
          1812 1945 27 July 2014 14: 30
          +5
          Quote: dr.Bo
          Happy holiday sailors !!!!

          I join in the congratulations with joy and faith! In the right direction, our fleet is developing. RPSLN groupings are a guarantee of state security, and a good muzzle on the slobbery jaws of the Anglo-Saxons.
        3. Bort radist
          Bort radist 27 July 2014 15: 00
          +3
          Moreman of all slots with a holiday. The news said today two substrates laid a good gift,
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      1. Armata
        Armata 27 July 2014 14: 19
        +6
        Quote: Sterlya
        Sorry off topic.
        In the Astrakhan region Mig-29 crashed. The pilot was ordered to eject, but he was trying to save the plane.
        Sorry to be deleted (I don’t know who). I believe that this news has the right to be on this site. Now the site has too much text past internal problems. Maybe we will begin to pay more attention to our problems, and not just yell Hurray RUSSIA.
        1. 1812 1945
          1812 1945 27 July 2014 14: 56
          +6
          Quote: Armata
          Quote: Sterlya
          Sorry off topic.
          In the Astrakhan region Mig-29 crashed. The pilot was ordered to eject, but he was trying to save the plane.

          And in peacetime there is a place for a feat. If a person is capable of it. He served the pilot with dignity and died as a hero, fulfilling his duty to the homeland to the end.
          1. Eugene
            Eugene 27 July 2014 17: 40
            +5
            And here the topic begins. What is more expensive, specialist, or iron? One thing the plane will fall on the city (huge sky ... One for two ..) Or the engine stalled. I don’t know .. But the man tried to do something! Eternal memory. ...
    3. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 27 July 2014 14: 29
      +13
      Quote: Tambov Wolf
      For everyone's interest. How to press a sofa dill after calculating it. Https: //www.youtube.com/watch? V = NvFAvKBcVWw

      I will help you with the video

      When you peel a post at the top of the window there are menus - a smiley, a picture and a film, click it and paste the link from YouTube.
      1. rasputin17
        rasputin17 27 July 2014 15: 13
        +5
        But the truth is that it is so !!! Sidik is a piece of gna at the other end of the network and is angry not suspecting that the end has already come to the tail !!! It's disgusting to look at this babble !!
    4. starshina78
      starshina78 27 July 2014 15: 37
      +5
      Brothers! All with the Day of the Navy! Congratulations to all of you who serve, have served, or study at schools, work on auxiliary vessels! I wish seven feet under the keel, to those who are at sea, good health and good luck, who have served; those who are in the database more trips!
      1. Eugene
        Eugene 27 July 2014 17: 44
        +2
        Special thanks for the auxiliary vessels! All these tankers, supply vessels, hospitals, all sorts of "Romanians"! Everyone is doing their small, inconspicuous, but very necessary work! Happy Holidays, naval and involved !!!
    5. armageddon
      armageddon 27 July 2014 15: 40
      +1
      Happy holiday !!! Pleases the strengthening of the Russian NAVY !!! And of course, what Russia will do for the development of the Navy !!!
    6. 222222
      222222 27 July 2014 15: 52
      +1
      Vladimir Putin takes part in the celebration of the Navy Day - live broadcast
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DCE1r6molHA
    7. tolian
      tolian 27 July 2014 16: 30
      0
      Thanks for the tip. I looked at this shitty "warrior" and represented here in various blogs "heroes", basal and very "bold". A very instructive lesson for them.
    8. kodxnumx
      kodxnumx 27 July 2014 21: 35
      0
      With the holiday of the Russian Navy! I’m just deeply convinced that our armed forces will be strong, my grandchildren and their grandchildren will live in a free country called RUSSIA. Each ship that enters our fleet is a positive mood, it reminds me now of our time 41g when when the war found us on the road to rearmament, I want to believe that this time we will meet the enemy with all weapons!
    9. Dmitry Toderes
      Dmitry Toderes 27 July 2014 22: 58
      0
      Quote: Tambov Wolf
      For everyone's interest. How to press a sofa dill after calculating it. Https: //www.youtube.com/watch? V = NvFAvKBcVWw


      And almost all the dill that is threatened with violence on the Internet is just such in nature. They also put cool characters from computer games on their avatars. More than once I watched this. And they themselves live in a poor and weak country.
  2. il grand casino
    il grand casino 27 July 2014 13: 25
    +15
    This is all good. The only question is how many of these ships will be the largest boats ... And so the good news
    1. Giant thought
      Giant thought 27 July 2014 13: 37
      +8
      There will be all kinds of ships: large and small, of various purposes, but all equally needed by our Navy.
      1. Duke
        Duke 27 July 2014 13: 44
        +8
        Parade on the Neva.
        Photo taken a little earlier.
      2. Arberes
        Arberes 27 July 2014 13: 48
        +7
        Quote: Thought Giant
        There will be all kinds of ships: large and small, of various purposes, but all equally needed by our Navy.


        The fleet is effective when well balanced! Ships are needed in all classes, from boats and rescuers to powerful strike ships! About the submarine fleet, I do not stutter, it's holy! Once again with the holiday of us all!
        For the Navy! good drinks
      3. Interface
        Interface 27 July 2014 14: 00
        -3
        equally needed by our navy.


        So, do you think that "patrol boats" have the same construction priority as destroyers?


        Then why do we have:
        1. Are expensive submarines such as Borey and Yasen being built when dozens of missile carriers, far from having exhausted their resources, rusted at the docks in the 90x?
        2. Don't build destroyers and cruisers? Or are we going to send a "firebrand" in the shape of a Grachenok against fifty American destroyers? Ohoho, or take a cunning, huh?

        There is no need to justify the squalor that is called "UAC"; as one clever man said in an article posted on "VPK.name": "UAC is a deteriorated version of the USSR Ministry of Justice."

        PS. When we have launched a real, Russian aircraft carrier, I will name my child in honor of the chief designer.
        1. Associate Professor
          Associate Professor 27 July 2014 14: 19
          +6
          Quote: Interface
          1. Are expensive submarines such as Borey and Yasen being built when dozens of missile carriers, far from having exhausted their resources, rusted at the docks in the 90x?

          Well stood, so what? In the 90s a lot of things stood that now you do not need to build new ships? Interesting logic.
          Quote: Interface
          Don't build destroyers and cruisers? Or are we going to send a "firebrand" in the shape of a Grachenok against fifty American destroyers? Ohoho, or take a cunning, huh?

          And who is building cruisers in the world? Modern destroyers make it possible to place so many weapon systems on them that they can equal strike and defense power with cruisers. The laying of the first destroyer for the Russian Navy is expected in 2016, while old destroyers and cruisers are being repaired. Destroying is easier than building
          1. Interface
            Interface 27 July 2014 14: 36
            0
            This generally killed:
            Well stood, so what?
            .

            Well, think of an armada from the dullness of a buggery clown turned into dust, but in general fuck.

            Interesting logic.


            And the logic is that the submarines of the 667 project fully fulfilled the tasks assigned to them. It was only necessary to repair them, and update the filling a bit.

            Think for yourself. The Americans will update their submarine fleet only by the beginning of the 30x. The characteristics of the Chinese only approached our submarines.

            Why spend money on submarines when nuclear parity is maintained and there are not enough surface ships?

            We have an acute shortage of destroyers, not a single aircraft carrier (aircraft carrier cruiser and aircraft carrier, things are different).

            How will you carry out global patrols if you only have the 8 Ashen, and the old missile carriers who refused to upgrade for the sake of these 8?
            1. Associate Professor
              Associate Professor 27 July 2014 15: 24
              +3
              Quote: Interface
              And the logic is that the submarines of the 667 project fully fulfilled the tasks assigned to them. It was only necessary to repair them, and update the filling a bit.

              Project 667 BDR is outdated and its last representatives will be written off in a year or two. Of course, those BDRs that were written off in the 90s and at the beginning of 2000 could still serve for about 10 years, but by now they would still have been written off. All built 667 bdrm are repaired, slightly modernized and are in operation. one converted. Their resource is also not eternal, and by 2022-25 it will also be time to write them off (they will be 35-40 years old already. Boreas will be built to replace them).
              Quote: Interface
              Think for yourself. The Americans will only renew their submarine fleet by the beginning of the 30s.

              Well, the Americans introduced their last SSBN in 97. Therefore, later they will update. They have written off all their SSBNs of the second generation for a long time, and we still have 3 boats of the 2nd generation in service.
              Quote: Interface
              How will you carry out global patrols if you only have the 8 Ashen, and the old missile carriers who refused to upgrade for the sake of these 8?

              8 Ash-trees will be on GPV until 2020. They will be built after 2020.
              1. Interface
                Interface 27 July 2014 19: 53
                0
                The 667 project is outdated and its last representatives will be decommissioned in a year or two.


                1. You, father, are confusing the project 667BRD "Kalmar" and 667BRDM "Dolphin". I was talking about Dolphin. Itself a subwoofer, Squids have written off everything.

                For reference. The first Ohio SSBN, the foundation of today's US strategic nuclear forces, was laid in 1976. And Dolphin in 1981.

                How? Still sure it's out of date?
                1. Associate Professor
                  Associate Professor 27 July 2014 20: 46
                  0
                  Quote: Interface
                  ... You, father, are confusing the project 667BRD "Kalmar" and 667BRDM "Dolphin". I was talking about Dolphin. Itself a subwoofer, Squids have written off everything.

                  I am not confusing anything. You wrote about the 667 project and did not specify the BDR or BDRM. I wrote about the BDR that it is out of date.
                  Quote: Interface
                  For reference. The first Ohio SSBN, the foundation of today's US strategic nuclear forces, was laid in 1976. And Dolphin in 1981.

                  It’s laid, it’s laid, but I'm talking about the resource. The last Ohio was commissioned in 1997, and the Dolphin in 1990. Therefore, the first Ohio will be decommissioned somewhere in 2027, and the first Dolphin - approximately in 2019 - 2020. The difference is just 7-8 years.
            2. Setrac
              Setrac 27 July 2014 16: 02
              0
              Quote: Interface
              We have an acute shortage of destroyers, not a single aircraft carrier (aircraft carrier cruiser and aircraft carrier, things are different).

              Attempts to oppose their American aircraft carriers will end in the collapse of the Russian economy at about the third or fourth carrier group, heh,

              "Whose friend are you, mine or bear?"
              1. Interface
                Interface 27 July 2014 20: 04
                0
                Attempts to oppose their American aircraft carriers will end in the collapse of the Russian economy at about the third or fourth carrier group, heh,


                Even in the days of the USSR, when a powerful fleet for the most part was engaged in the protection of state borders, the military leadership realized the need to have aircraft carrier formations.

                And all because only a combination of coastal aviation, submarines, surface ships, naval aviation and ground anti-ship systems in a strike against the AOG only equalized the chances of a successful outcome of the battle.

                8 submarines of the Yasen type, with Clubs in service, will not break through the missile defense of an aircraft carrier group, and these are: an aircraft carrier 1-3 units, for each unit - 4-6 destroyers of a missile defense, ~ 3-5 submarines at the front line, also guarding aircraft with URO.

                Radar target detection occurs in ~ 800 km.
                So consider who will sink someone faster: an air group, which includes aviation, and destroyers, and submarines, or our Ash trees.

                The fleet needs to be developed in a complex. And not damage to something.
                1. Zuborez
                  Zuborez 28 July 2014 00: 23
                  0
                  Radar target detection occurs in ~ 800 km.
                  It’s good to live in another universe — and 3,14 is different,
                  and Pythagoras is not distracting.
              2. 23 region
                23 region 27 July 2014 21: 47
                +2
                Quote: Setrac
                Quote: Interface
                We have an acute shortage of destroyers, not a single aircraft carrier (aircraft carrier cruiser and aircraft carrier, things are different).

                Attempts to oppose their American aircraft carriers will end in the collapse of the Russian economy at about the third or fourth carrier group, heh,

                "Whose friend are you, mine or bear?"

                "Goldfish" will help.
          2. Oprychnik
            Oprychnik 27 July 2014 15: 05
            +2
            The construction and operation of ships is becoming more expensive. Now the destroyer is worth a dozen battleships in efficiency. The downward trend in ship rank will continue throughout the world. It is not a fact that aircraft carriers are very effective now. If only against the Papuans. That sub, yes. Different classes. This, I emphasize, is my personal opinion.
        2. Klim2011
          Klim2011 27 July 2014 14: 22
          +4
          Kamrad, we have a year to discuss the problems of the fleet 364 days ....
          Happy Holiday!
        3. RUSLAT
          RUSLAT 27 July 2014 14: 24
          +1
          In the Second World War it was proved that the main thing is not size, but quality! One submarine inflicted more damage to the German heavy cruiser than the entire fleet and aircraft of Great Britain ....... That is why hundreds of American aircraft carriers after 1945 went for scrap.
          1. Interface
            Interface 27 July 2014 14: 38
            0
            .. That is why hundreds of American aircraft carriers after the 1945 year went to scrap.


            Hundreds of American aircraft carriers were scrapped as the war with Japan ended. And to keep the Pacific Fleet of the USSR still weak in 1945, what was left was enough. This decades later there was created a great power.
        4. Y34Gagarin
          Y34Gagarin 27 July 2014 14: 59
          -1
          Carriers are the weapons of the aggressor.
        5. devastator
          devastator 27 July 2014 20: 44
          -1
          Yes, we do not need aircraft carriers!
          In a real war, they will be killed within two hours, and together with an escort from cruisers and destroyers, the benefits of which in a real war are much greater than from the aircraft carrier itself!
          Aircraft carriers are an analogue of fittings in the task of exterminating the Bushmen. But we do not plan to engage in such an abomination!
          Russia is a peaceful country, and since we never plan aggression against less technologically advanced states, we need:
          1. Submarines, well suited for the destruction of aircraft carrier squadrons (preferably with ballistics up to 3 Mt);
          2. Missile cruisers, well suited for the destruction of aircraft carrier squadrons, as well as any other surface ships of the enemy (preferably with ballistics up to 3 Mt);
          3. Anti-submarine ships, well suited for the extermination of any type of submarine (primarily armed nuclear weapons);
          4. Naval aviation, well suited for the extermination of any type of submarine (primarily armed nuclear weapons);
          5. Landing ships with a full set of marine corps and the necessary weapons and equipment (for any local conflicts). If the ship is an aircraft carrier (at least a helicopter carrier) - good, but even without this, with modern air defense systems, you can somehow do.

          You would recall the battleships of project 23! What power - all enemies will wear out!
          So call your child named Valerian - in honor of V.L. Brzezinski (what a talking last name!).

          Imagine an aircraft carrier in the Pacific or Northern Fleet!
          Or at least read in more detail about Kuzyu!
          The combat value is near-zero, but the costs are exorbitant! And while the strategic objectives are completely unclear.
          I’m not even trying to imagine an aircraft carrier at the Black Sea Fleet - to have an aircraft carrier in the water area with the largest 1150 km diameter. seems to me a completely moronic undertaking.
          Even the relatively old (in the best sense of the word - Imperial) cruiser Peter the Great, based on common sense, "costs" in a real (and not Zulu) battle three times (if not five times) "more expensive"! (that is, it will kill many times more targets before it burns down). That is, it has more chances to stay afloat by the time when there is nothing to "burn" with.

          I understand that the new Admiral Ushakov was clearly not born in our country 30 years ago (perhaps not even to this day). But I somehow believe (an optimist, you know) that there will be 3-5 people equal to Admiral Kuznetsov in our country. And I would like them to be in charge of our fleet in 5-10 years, and not those who were contemptuously called "black boots" in the Pacific Fleet of the United States of America in 1946.
          1. Interface
            Interface 27 July 2014 22: 14
            +1
            In a real war, they will be killed within two hours, and together with an escort from cruisers and destroyers, the benefits of which in a real war are much greater than from the aircraft carrier itself!



            No, it’s very interesting: all the major geopolitical players are increasing carrier formations, but we do not need them.
            USA, UK, PRC, Japan. Even India, where everyone has TVs, but not everyone has a toilet-- and SAMA (!) Built a full-fledged aircraft carrier.


            In my opinion, such statements (that we do not need them) are nothing more than an attempt to cover up the post-Soviet shame with a fig leaf.
            Well, the Russian Federation cannot build an aircraft carrier that meets modern requirements! No specialists were left, nor the design bureau at the Northern Shipyard-- was closed a long time ago. Others are developing.

            I’m not even trying to imagine an aircraft carrier at the Black Sea Fleet - to have an aircraft carrier in the water area with the largest 1150 km diameter. seems to me a completely moronic undertaking.


            And I will reveal to you the great Truth.
            Russia has 4 fleets: Baltic, Northern, Black Sea, Pacific.

            Where are you, an ingenious strategist, located on the Pacific TVV coastal aviation, so that it covered with 100% guarantee AUG flagships from a distance of 1500-2000 km?
            This is not Pearl Harbor, but we do not have our own personal Hawaii in the center of the Pacific Ocean.

            There are aircraft carriers for such things.

            that 3-5 people equal to Admiral Kuznetsov in our country there.


            I'm out of your naivety.

            Such geniuses as Kuznetsov are put forward by the SYSTEM. In this case, the Soviet one.

            How do you think the post-Soviet liberoid state building, synonymous with thieves, can put forward a strategist at the level of Kuznetsov?
            1. Setrac
              Setrac 27 July 2014 23: 13
              0
              Quote: Interface
              And I will reveal to you the great Truth.
              Russia has 4 fleets: Baltic, Northern, Black Sea, Pacific.

              That's it, we have FOUR fleets and collect them in one fist NO PHYSICAL OPPORTUNITY.
              A competition of aircraft carrier groups is a battle on enemy terms, we will LOSE it.
              1. Interface
                Interface 27 July 2014 23: 58
                0
                And who told you that Russian air groups will need to go into the open sea or ocean to fight the US Navy?

                In Soviet times, aircraft-carrying cruisers were used not to "strike at California," but to interact with coastal aviation, SSGNs, cruisers and destroyers, anti-ship complexes, to cover the cities of the USSR from the sea. Not for "friendship visits" to visit Reagan. This was exactly what SSGN and SSBN were doing. bully
                1. Setrac
                  Setrac 28 July 2014 00: 15
                  0
                  Quote: Interface
                  And who told you that Russian air groups will need to go into the open sea or ocean to fight the US Navy?

                  Why then are they needed? AUG - it is precisely for operations in the ocean and coastal aviation that they lose in all respects.
          2. Zuborez
            Zuborez 28 July 2014 00: 20
            0
            Feeling a strand of veins))
        6. Zuborez
          Zuborez 28 July 2014 00: 15
          0
          Who need to build a nuclear submarine.
          The Leningrad patrol can’t pass the PZ, but give you the cruiser)).
          Do not get children before the liberation of Nikolaev).
    2. Sterlya
      Sterlya 27 July 2014 13: 44
      +9
      Sorry off topic.
      In the Astrakhan region Mig-29 crashed. The pilot was ordered to eject, but he was trying to save the plane.
      1. il grand casino
        il grand casino 27 July 2014 13: 46
        +5
        Quote: Sterlya
        Sorry off topic.
        In the Astrakhan region Mig-29 crashed. The pilot was ordered to eject, but he was trying to save the plane.

        Rest in peace...
        Although a person is still more expensive than any car ...
        1. Duke
          Duke 27 July 2014 13: 54
          +5
          Quote: il grand casino
          Quote: Sterlya
          Sorry off topic.
          In the Astrakhan region Mig-29 crashed. The pilot was ordered to eject, but he was trying to save the plane.

          Rest in peace...
          Although a person is still more expensive than any car ...

          Eternal memory to the hero pilot.
    3. Interface
      Interface 27 July 2014 13: 45
      -12
      Ha, the Soviet cruiser pr.1164 in the photo with the headline "By the end of the year, the Russian Navy will receive 50 ships" ...
      The news is apparently designed for some sort of rya-kryakalok.

      This "miracle" should have been placed on the photo. It will be more believable.
      1. TiGRoO
        TiGRoO 27 July 2014 13: 53
        +11
        Of course there will be no cruisers (surface) and destroyers, but frigates, nuclear submarines and possibly the mistral (Vladivostok) will be part of the Navy by the end of the year. And in 2016, the construction of the destroyer will begin.
        Not perfect, but better than it was. Yes, in the USSR, the Eagles and Sharks were built, Ulyanovsk began to build, but that was the Union - now the Russian Federation ...
        1. Chegevara21
          Chegevara21 27 July 2014 14: 06
          +2
          Vladivostok has to wait at least 1 more year until it is finalized, domestic weapons will be installed ....
        2. Interface
          Interface 27 July 2014 14: 16
          +1
          For reference.
          1. The frigate pr.22350 from 2006 of the year was built only by 1. Due to the disruption of the schedule, the Ministry of Defense was forced to give priority to 11156, as a smaller version of 22350.
          2.
          Mistral (Vladivostok)

          Can you find out what the name of the ship built for the Soviet Union in NATO countries was called?
          3.
          2016 year, the construction of the destroyer will begin

          The latest information was that at the end of 2017 go. And how much will they build?

          It is not necessary for some users (I'm not talking about you) to grumble with saliva and together resent the truth. But the truth is it’s bitter, that powerful vessels rust slowly from antiquity, and from new ones only boats, and support vessels.

          Personally, I will be satisfied only when we begin to introduce at least 3 destroyers in 5 years.

          You need to rejoice when a breakthrough, rather than jumping around a minimum of completed work. Who does not agree-- let's argue.
          1. TiGRoO
            TiGRoO 27 July 2014 14: 30
            +5
            1. Disruption only due to an artillery gun (shipbuilders are not to blame here), the ship itself has been afloat for 2.5 years ... Project 11156 was also chosen because project 22350 is too bold for the Black Sea Fleet (first the Northern Fleet and Pacific Fleet).
            2. This is so (the USSR did not cooperate with the possible enemy on the military-industrial complex), but if we had started building ships of a similar class ourselves, we would have built them for at least 5 years, and so the construction experience has appeared and 2 ships will be delivered quickly. And the French (most) are not too happy to be a member of NATO.
            3. They will build for a long time unfortunately, but it’s good that they will generally build.

            I am also not happy with the current affairs of the Navy, but at least not "90s and 00s".
            1. Interface
              Interface 28 July 2014 00: 09
              +1
              build ships of this class themselves, would have built them for at least 5 years,


              This gives something that is not bought at the shipyards of SFX, San Nazaire or anywhere else-- EXPERIENCE, dear friend, experience. 5 years of construction - the next count times 1,5 faster. That's how the shipbuilding school has been enriched over the years.

              Until someone privatizes it ...
            2. Zuborez
              Zuborez 28 July 2014 00: 35
              +1
              Everywhere ass-and in the KLA, and the steamers.
              For a day, engineers with hard workers do not give birth.
              For too long completely in the pen (export) were.
              Big money has now gone (FTP), but their development
              causes tears.))
              HZ, but people stayed and work.
              The situation is better than in the nineties, by orders of magnitude.
              He himself survived all this and I'm not buzzing))
          2. devastator
            devastator 27 July 2014 20: 58
            0
            I put a plus and express my personal opinion - you need to commission at least 2 submarine missile carriers every year (with the possibility of sending to "friends" at least 8 copies not weaker than R-29RMU2) and at least 3 cruisers or destroyers (with the ability to send at least 8 missiles, commensurate with the merits of the R-36M2).
          3. Zuborez
            Zuborez 28 July 2014 00: 06
            0
            Ice-cold vodka seems to be surrendering. Atomic.
            By the end of the year, two Warsaw women promised at the Black Sea Fleet.
            As a guard, they don’t accept in St. Petersburg-PZ)).
            Machine gun to military representatives to help. + STP
        3. Setrac
          Setrac 27 July 2014 16: 07
          0
          Dear TiGRoO, you will take an interest in how much one cost (do not stray) Shark.
        4. 23 region
          23 region 27 July 2014 22: 32
          0
          Quote: TiGRoO
          Of course there will be no cruisers (surface) and destroyers, but frigates, nuclear submarines and possibly the mistral (Vladivostok) will be part of the Navy by the end of the year. And in 2016, the construction of the destroyer will begin.
          Not perfect, but better than it was. Yes, in the USSR, the Eagles and Sharks were built, Ulyanovsk began to build, but that was the Union - now the Russian Federation ...

          Maybe Nikolaev will catch up with Novorossiya. God forbid there shipyards. When I was serving there "Tbilissi" (Kuznetsov) stood oh and the colossus "Mama Do Not Cry".
      2. RUSLAT
        RUSLAT 27 July 2014 14: 29
        +3
        Even women know, THE MAJOR IS NOT THE SIZE ....... It was in the nineteenth century that the ship was judged by the size and number of guns ..... Lag behind!
        1. Interface
          Interface 28 July 2014 00: 03
          +1
          Even women know the main thing is not the size .....


          Kha kha ... how to know laughing
          So this is an excuse for those whom nature has offended, sorry hi


          But .... It was a completely different story. feel
      3. Setrac
        Setrac 27 July 2014 16: 05
        +1
        Quote: Interface
        This "miracle" should have been placed on the photo. It will be more believable.

        Will we send saboteurs to catch Kuzya? Or Peter the Great?
    4. Juborg
      Juborg 27 July 2014 13: 49
      +4
      I think it’s not worth shouting to the whole world how many units are entering the troops. Whoever needs it will know without an official announcement, but the world should not be pulled by the nerve once again. I think many have already understood that it will not work to avoid military clashes, another question is what scale they will be and in what territory, in the global world conflict, one does not want to believe, but if it does not work out, world American fascism will get its grenade.
      1. Chegevara21
        Chegevara21 27 July 2014 14: 09
        +3
        If we don’t throw the grenade first, it will be just as bad as in 41m ..
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    5. 53-Sciborskiy
      53-Sciborskiy 27 July 2014 14: 08
      +4
      Quote: il grand casino
      This is all good. The only question is how many of these ships will be the largest boats ...

      The main thing here is not dimensions, but armament. For reference ... A big one costs a lot of money, but the effectiveness of the defeat is not much different.
      1. 53-Sciborskiy
        53-Sciborskiy 27 July 2014 14: 26
        +2
        Who set the minus and why? Get out to the battle! There is a bazaar.
        1. Ptah
          Ptah 27 July 2014 14: 52
          +1
          Quote: 53-Sciborskiy
          Get out to the battle! There is a bazaar.

          Yes nuuuu ... Although I understand - it is extremely unproductive to "bazaar" alone, but if the desire for a fight is so irresistible - I, in general, am ready.
          Just now I’ll pump one for the holiday, but I’ll squeeze a slice of tomatoes, and perhaps we’ll start ... Pray. what ..
          And for what we will fight ???

          Quote: 53-Sciborskiy
          Who set the minus and why?

          Is it true, WHO gave Sergei "53-Sciborskiy" a minus? laughing laughing
          1. 53-Sciborskiy
            53-Sciborskiy 27 July 2014 15: 23
            +2
            Quote: Ptah
            Is it true, WHO gave Sergei "53-Sciborskiy" a minus?

            Vadim, don't be silly, with the "offender", I figured it out. If you have a problem with a sense of humor, it's better to bang your head against the wall. Actually, I'm good-natured, if something goes wrong, come in with a bottle. It's not good for a Russian to crack vodka in one person, and eat tomatoes. drinks
            1. Ptah
              Ptah 27 July 2014 15: 55
              +2
              Seryozha, in fact, I am also not weak, therefore I wrote. Even the cartoon stuck on the situation ...
              You are right, now it’s boring, I don’t really like "pouring balloons", but now I am alone - the family has gone to the city.
              I can't get behind the wheel for an understandable (good) reason. Soon they will come, then we will rush to the dacha for a taxi, and there we will "aggravate" ... wassat drinks

              Shl. I would "go in", and not with one bottle, but probably until I get to your edges (from Tartar-Stan) and it will be time for work ...
              Therefore, as it is now "customary" to say - REMOTE roll - wink drinks
              1. 53-Sciborskiy
                53-Sciborskiy 27 July 2014 16: 25
                +2
                Quote: Ptah
                Shl. I would "go in", and not with one bottle, but probably until I get to your edges (from Tartar-Stan) and it will be time for work ...
                Therefore, as now it is "customary" to say - REMOTE roll

                Sorry bro, it's all about emotion. drinks
      2. Interface
        Interface 27 July 2014 14: 27
        0
        lesions are not much different.


        Yeah, so the rook will surely sink the Nimitz? Yes, you sho!
        1. 53-Sciborskiy
          53-Sciborskiy 27 July 2014 14: 41
          +2
          Quote: Interface
          Yeah, so the rook will surely sink the Nimitz? Yes, you sho!

          Actually, I meant a corvette, three. four X-35 anti-ship missiles and a cover for the big Nimitz. The Molniya-class boat with four Mosquitoes can also gently send the aforementioned aircraft carrier to the bottom. fellow
        2. Setrac
          Setrac 27 July 2014 16: 11
          0
          Quote: Interface
          Yeah, so the rook will surely sink the Nimitz? Yes, you sho!

          "Nimitz" will be sent to the bottom by underwater saboteurs, since the Americans do not have "Grachenok".
          1. Interface
            Interface 28 July 2014 19: 22
            0
            Are you aware that aircraft carriers do not go unaccompanied by destroyers and submarines?


            The same question for you.
      3. Juborg
        Juborg 27 July 2014 14: 50
        +1
        A big one is needed, at least in terms of range, but it is a good target, but its defense and striking power are much larger than small vessels. Yes expensive, but necessary. A lot, never when it’s bad!
    6. avg
      avg 27 July 2014 14: 27
      +1
      Quote: il grand casino
      This is all good. The only question is how many of these ships will be the largest boats.

      Your desire is clear. But, in my opinion, we now have the most rational policy - we are building infrastructure and support at a faster pace, as well as vital strategists, and there ocean ships will go.
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  4. askort154
    askort154 27 July 2014 13: 28
    +8
    Happy Holidays, FRIEND OF RUSSIA - Fleet!
  5. andrei332809
    andrei332809 27 July 2014 13: 29
    +4
    good luck to the shipbuilders drinks
    1. Ptah
      Ptah 27 July 2014 14: 57
      +2
      Quote: andrei332809
      good luck to the shipbuilders

      And the rest of the people who are able to participate in childbearing - love, desire, opportunities and potentials.
      After all, the brainchild of shipbuilders need personnel. In the young replenishment of the fleet, as well as new cadets in naval schools, etc ....
  6. Loner_53
    Loner_53 27 July 2014 13: 31
    +6
    HAPPY RUSSIAN NAVY HOLIDAY! BALTIC HOLIDAYS! HAPPY YAROSLAV THE WISE! GLORY TO THE RUSSIAN FLEET !!! soldier drinks drinks drinks
    About ships, MUCH SUCH NEWS! MANY WARShipS DO NOT HAVE A LOT! smile
  7. zao74
    zao74 27 July 2014 13: 33
    +6
    I hope the quantity will turn into quality, otherwise we buy Mistral, and build boats. There are enough aircraft carriers to build themselves, and this is the development of production, and jobs.
  8. fridge
    fridge 27 July 2014 13: 33
    +1
    Good news! good It is great that RUSSIA pays great attention to its allies. As you know, we had two of them (army and navy), and in connection with progress and development, new allies appear. fellow
  9. Finches
    Finches 27 July 2014 13: 36
    +5
    Collapsed, collapsed and then burst! This is certainly great! That's right!
    Previous news was about front-line aviation. Now a question of the following character, and personnel? Enough staff!
    Serdyukovskie young women, so pissed off over a military education, yes, plus a demographic pit comes, which is somehow scary for the shots then!
    And yet Count Potemkin used to say: "For the production of a soldier you need a man and a woman, and a darker night, and for the training of an officer, money, time, knowledge!" And how many qualified officers, scientific and pedagogical personnel, thanks to the reform, left military education?
    Much to be restored
    1. Chegevara21
      Chegevara21 27 July 2014 13: 47
      +3
      ... on your topic: "Why was it necessary to destroy the Gagarin Academy in Monino and build a new center in Voronezh? Will the scientific personnel (most of them over 50) go to new apartments? Hence the problems with personnel training. SOMEONE TO TEACH
      1. Finches
        Finches 27 July 2014 15: 19
        +1
        There is still someone to teach, but there are already not enough teachers!
        If you catch the difference between teacher and teacher!
    2. Ryndabul
      Ryndabul 27 July 2014 13: 48
      +6
      Quote: Finches
      Collapsed, collapsed and then burst! This is certainly great! That's right!
      Previous news was about front-line aviation. Now a question of the following character, and personnel? Enough staff!
      Serdyukovskie young women, so pissed off over a military education, yes, plus a demographic pit comes, which is somehow scary for the shots then!
      And yet Count Potemkin used to say: "For the production of a soldier you need a man and a woman, and a darker night, and for the training of an officer, money, time, knowledge!" And how many qualified officers, scientific and pedagogical personnel, thanks to the reform, left military education?
      Much to be restored

      Judging by the information received, there is a very large competition for universities with military departments and training military specialists! So, the profession of "defending the Motherland" is in demand again! And the confidence in the Army and the Navy has grown significantly! And the majors are not an indicator, but an exception ... Shit is always in sight ... But real officers are ready to die themselves, and save the equipment entrusted to them. Glory to the pilot who died today saving the plane near Astrakhan! Rest in peace and eternal memory!
      1. Finches
        Finches 27 July 2014 14: 54
        +2
        About the pilot, let the earth rest in peace!
        And about everything else, it’s not just about competition, it’s about the military education system. It was very well reformed, it’s, so to speak, the formation of a new look and how it will work to provide highly qualified officers, time will tell!
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  11. psychologist
    psychologist 27 July 2014 13: 40
    +12
    the best news on the day of the Russian Navy !! I finally lived up to this time when everything was falling into place !!
    1. Denka
      Denka 27 July 2014 13: 56
      +3
      I don’t know, but when I learned in the history lesson during the USSR that my country used to be the Russian Empire, then comparing its scale for some reason I continued to consider it for myself. And now it’s not that I think so, but much more: I’m sure of that. After all, it’s not enough to call the Empire, it must be!
    2. Armata
      Armata 27 July 2014 14: 56
      0
      Quote: psychologist
      the best news on the day of the Russian Navy !! I finally lived up to this time when everything was falling into place !!
      Well I do not know. Last year they promised 50 ships. How much did it end up, how much came to the ranks of the Navy? Kick something not to carry bags. laughing Every year, we have 50 ships, a new tank, and the C500 put into service. But repairing (and they said modernized) ships, tanks with dubious alteration, the 500 we still will not see 3 for another year. To speak beautifully on the site has become above the truth.
  12. Same lech
    Same lech 27 July 2014 13: 42
    +2
    I would like to know against the background of such good news .... there is something in the Russian Navy for effective struggle with the USA AUG .... after all, it is the main opponent of our fleet in the seas and oceans.
    1. sv68
      sv68 27 July 2014 14: 28
      +3
      the same LESHA, of course there are! Three compositions with caps, so that there is something to shower!
    2. pahom54
      pahom54 27 July 2014 14: 30
      +1
      Well, a submarine division is being created for anti-aircraft combat ... Well, something like that is called ...
    3. Setrac
      Setrac 27 July 2014 16: 14
      +1
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      .there is something in the Fleet of Russia for something to effectively combat the AUG USA ...

      Well, you don’t understand, if the Russian fleet entered the battle with the American AUGs, then the nuclear loaves are already in flight.
  13. Ryndabul
    Ryndabul 27 July 2014 13: 43
    +2
    Happy holiday, Maremans! For those who are at sea, on watch and at guardhouse! drinks For new ships drinks For the Black Sea and other fleets and squadrons drinks For the 41st Sevastopol OBRK drinks For the 296th Constance Missile Boat Division! drinks
  14. alexandr-budarin1
    alexandr-budarin1 27 July 2014 13: 45
    +1
    Great news!! And this is Navy DAY !!!! Congratulations to our Sailors !! good
  15. VeteranS
    VeteranS 27 July 2014 13: 45
    +2
    As Emperor Alexander III used to say to his son, Emperor of Russia Nicholas II (close to the text) - because of its vast territory and countless riches, Russia is either feared or hated, therefore it has only two allies - the Army and the Navy! "It is said very accurately and truly!
  16. nemec55
    nemec55 27 July 2014 13: 57
    +1
    Rushing ept soldier
  17. moremansf
    moremansf 27 July 2014 14: 01
    +11
    The fleet was, is and will be !!!!
    1. Finches
      Finches 27 July 2014 17: 34
      +4
      St. Andrew's flag - a historical flag! But this flag in real life was known and respected in all, even the most dense corners of the oceans!
  18. mamont5
    mamont5 27 July 2014 14: 04
    +2
    Until recently it was said that the fleet will receive 40 ships, and now 50. Well, it pleases (although it is clear that the ships are not large).
  19. Fedor Bolts
    Fedor Bolts 27 July 2014 14: 11
    +2
    With such success, one can soon launch hundreds of combat kayaks into the water. Shame. A country with three oceans, and there was only one pathos from the Petrovsky and Soviet fleets. And the drunken idiots who served a year have served in fountains today.
  20. Laval
    Laval 27 July 2014 14: 13
    +2
    All happy Navy Day!
  21. Wiruz
    Wiruz 27 July 2014 14: 14
    +1
    The fate of the frigates of project 22350 is interesting: is the lead ship of this series included in these 50 ships or not? Which fleet will it be part of? What is his armament: 16 UKKS + 32 Rif-M or 48 UKKS (with the launch of anti-aircraft missiles from them)? Who is in the know - enlighten. I will be grateful smile
  22. SEK
    SEK 27 July 2014 14: 14
    +2
    Happy Navy Day!
    KChF. Sevastopol DMB 89!
  23. mithridate
    mithridate 27 July 2014 14: 15
    +1
    normal news. Happy holiday, SEAFARERS!
  24. leglun
    leglun 27 July 2014 14: 20
    +1
    Glory to our fleet and the sailors who protect us. Know we sleep peacefully !!!!!
  25. 23 region
    23 region 27 July 2014 14: 21
    +3
    Do not tease the Russian bear!
  26. sv68
    sv68 27 July 2014 14: 25
    -2
    scary and funny! scary-when a person reads the headline-takes the hair out of amazement-after all, we can !!! and it will become funny-at the end of the year when he sees how the fleet has grown, counting kayaks and triem-ships of large tonnage, almost zero or they Also, there are no "half-baked" guns, or the missiles have not even been tested. When will the unnecessary promises end and the real work will go?
    1. sv68
      sv68 27 July 2014 14: 58
      +2
      what is it? some rat didn’t like the truth — and decided it would be marked by a minus? put a minus explanation — but we’ll do it like ryapatreotism — I don’t like it — I’m going to get angry — only weird rats come in. We build very few warships and build them awfully long -paint-forward-minus ...
  27. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 27 July 2014 14: 27
    +2
    The stronger the army, the less likely the scale of military clashes is. American aircraft carriers are the winners of World War II. And now they are used with success to "embed the Papuans into the Stone Age". But building such a ship to make up for the loss is not a year or two. Afraid to lose. Remember the fate of the excellent German battleships in World War II? One was drowned, the other spent the whole war like a scarecrow in the garden, in the Norwegian fjords, and there they drowned.
    It is important that the fleet is being renewed, and new submarines are already frightening our "partners".
    1. Bort radist
      Bort radist 27 July 2014 15: 41
      +1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      the second grumbled the whole war, like a scarecrow in a garden,

      Tirpitz - as the British were afraid of him and K-21 "It was a tiny, half-blind shell, slowly creeping in the thickness of cold water. A spray-covered periscope eyepiece, a hydroacoustic sailor and a gyrocompass showing where the north is under this damn water - that's probably and everything that Nikolai Lunin was guided by when intercepting the German battleship. "
    2. Setrac
      Setrac 27 July 2014 16: 22
      0
      The winners of World War II AT SEA are five hundred American destroyers and 1300 (THOUSAND THREE THOUSAND PIECES) Liberty transports. Just as now, the basis of the American fleet is destroyers and high-speed transports.
  28. surovts.valery
    surovts.valery 27 July 2014 14: 38
    +2
    No need for praises and panic. Such hurray statements annoy me too. If you count in combat and auxiliary units (parrots), everything seems to be fine. If you count the income in each class of ships, the picture is not very rosy. And if for specific connections and fleets, then there is no replenishment at all. Pacific Fleet: except for "Grachenkov" and 1 DKA - zero. SF: "Severodvinsk", I do not take into account the rest of the trifle. Black Sea Fleet: so far, in fact, apart from little things (PDRKA) - zero. CFL: there are successes here (MRK, AKA), but this is not the main theater of operations. BF: 3 corvettes, in fact in trial operation, will remain there, most likely there will be no further mass production. But, most importantly, we are building on the sly, and statements about future construction are only annoying, especially since they are pronounced by opportunistic people, even those associated with the fleet, but forced to make such statements precisely in terms of business conditions, without fear of the consequences.
  29. Mishanya 84
    Mishanya 84 27 July 2014 14: 46
    +2
    Happy Holidays!
  30. kudryan
    kudryan 27 July 2014 14: 47
    +1
    Happy holiday sailors !!!
    Let's start (continue) with nothing ... And do not forget the heroic story!
    We absolutely need a fleet!
  31. novel68rus
    novel68rus 27 July 2014 14: 49
    +1
    I recently read somewhere that the cruisers don’t build because there is nothing to arm them ... and they don’t want to put the junk .. therefore, they are building frigates because it’s profitable and they have the latest weapons .. and the cruiser without armament is nothing .. they’re already undergoing some repairs a long time ago..
    1. DMB87
      DMB87 27 July 2014 15: 44
      +5
      cruisers do not build because there is nothing to arm them ... but they don’t want to put old stuff ..

      07.07.2014

      13.08.2013

      (c) Asterisk
    2. typhoon7
      typhoon7 27 July 2014 16: 52
      +1
      There is armament. Most likely, the requirements for the ship have not yet been finally decided; an ideology is needed. Although it seemed like they were going to lay the first destroyer, the exacerbation of the Syrian crisis showed that we need such ships today, they gathered a group from all fleets.
  32. katalonec. 2014
    katalonec. 2014 27 July 2014 14: 51
    +3
    It was painful to watch how our fleet was aging and dying, right at the berths, we believe everything will change, Russia will return its name to a great sea power. On holidays, you are sailors.
    1. typhoon7
      typhoon7 27 July 2014 16: 45
      0
      Let's hope that all this went down in history. All sailors and those involved in the Fleet Happy Holiday !!! drinks
  33. Zomanus
    Zomanus 27 July 2014 14: 54
    +3
    The photo above shows "Moscow" or "Peter the Great". It looks solid and formidable. But this is all old stuff. This notorious "boob" of the pointing antenna is generally old-fashioned.
    1. Chegevara21
      Chegevara21 27 July 2014 15: 14
      +3
      Peter was promised modernization in 2017 ... Update, I think your hated antenna smile
    2. Wiruz
      Wiruz 27 July 2014 15: 38
      +1
      In the photo above "Moscow" or "Peter the Great"

      Moscow is. Really you do not distinguish it from Petit? And at the expense of junk ... that is - that is request
  34. Arh
    Arh 27 July 2014 14: 57
    +1
    I like it, New Ships !!! smile
  35. Coconut Tima
    Coconut Tima 27 July 2014 15: 02
    +3
    Moscow. July 27. INTERFAX.RU - After the planned reconstruction, which will begin next year, the Logistics Support Center (PMTO) in the Syrian port of Tartus will be able to simultaneously receive ships of the first and second rank from the Russian Mediterranean grouping, a representative of the General Staff of the Navy told Interfax on Sunday ...
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 27 July 2014 15: 39
      +2
      It is high time we could already make a full-fledged Navy base from the PMTO. It seems that even the leadership had such plans, but the civil war in Syria prevented it.
  36. lis-ik
    lis-ik 27 July 2014 15: 25
    +1
    Quote: sv68
    scary and funny! scary-when a person reads the headline-takes the hair out of amazement-after all, we can !!! and it will become funny-at the end of the year when he sees how the fleet has grown, counting kayaks and triem-ships of large tonnage, almost zero or they Also, there are no "half-baked" guns, or the missiles have not even been tested. When will the unnecessary promises end and the real work will go?

    I put you + because and completely agree with your thought. The Russian fleet is unfortunately still in its infancy.
    Happy Russian Navy!
  37. tokens2
    tokens2 27 July 2014 15: 36
    +1
    Fifty ... ships.
    The strategy of our naval commanders like our odds are 50x50?
    Inspires cautious optimism laughing
    However ... to a full hat-thinking mood, you need to double the chances to 100. In the future.
    1. Eugene
      Eugene 27 July 2014 17: 46
      0
      Revisit Grishkovets' play "Dreadnoughts". There is such a writer, poet and artist. I think he will like it. Happy Holidays, brothers!
  38. slava11
    slava11 27 July 2014 15: 43
    -2
    You can’t hide a ship. Minus. List of pledged and accepted? Someone from cheers help?
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 27 July 2014 18: 35
      0
      Here is last year:
      http://topwar.ru/31373-stroyaschiesya-i-prinyatye-na-28072013-goda-korabli-dlya-
      vmf-rf-chast-1.html
      http://topwar.ru/31379-stroyaschiesya-i-prinyatye-na-28072013-goda-korabli-dlya-
      vmf-rf-chast-2.html

      But most are relevant.

      By the way, in the Caspian, 48 KR already concentrated the caliber in a volley (the new Dagestan, Grad Sviyazhsk, Uglich were already taken as part of + Ustyug to the Caspian.
  39. kudryan
    kudryan 27 July 2014 16: 27
    +1
    Why do you somehow doubt the Sailors? Regardless of the authorities, because it is really 50 ships, This is a part of our fighting efficiency. After all, is not America alone in the world?
  40. commander
    commander 27 July 2014 16: 57
    +1
    Quote: Chegevara21
    ... on your topic: "Why was it necessary to destroy the Gagarin Academy in Monino and build a new center in Voronezh? Will the scientific personnel (most of them over 50) go to new apartments? Hence the problems with personnel training. SOMEONE TO TEACH


    We will find out the answers in 70-80 years
  41. commander
    commander 27 July 2014 17: 08
    +2
    Quote: sv68
    what is it? some rat didn’t like the truth — and decided it would be marked by a minus? put a minus explanation — but we’ll do it like ryapatreotism — I don’t like it — I’m going to get angry — only weird rats come in. We build very few warships and build them awfully long -paint-forward-minus ...


    I’m a hard worker and I know how to work with metal, I’ll tell you
    that from the side of someone else's work, the master always seems quick.
    Maybe you should go to the factory and start building ships so that it’s smaller
    indicate. I am writing once again the military enterprises in our Urals plow in 2-3 shifts. There are not enough people and especially professionals.

    And also to you that the military should show how much and what equipment is produced.
    1. sv68
      sv68 27 July 2014 18: 10
      0
      komendor-the lack of people doesn’t depend on me personally, take a word. I didn’t re-profile schools — so that managers would grow up instead of machine workers. And about working with metal — until we closed several large enterprises in Rostov-on-Don, I worked as a turner and grinder and I have vast experience as a mechanic for mechanical assembly work and sixth grade — what did you want to surprise me with?
  42. commander
    commander 27 July 2014 17: 14
    0
    Quote: sv68
    what is it? some rat didn’t like the truth — and decided it would be marked by a minus? put a minus explanation — but we’ll do it like ryapatreotism — I don’t like it — I’m going to get angry — only weird rats come in. We build very few warships and build them awfully long -paint-forward-minus ...


    I’m a hard worker and I know how to work with metal, I’ll tell you
    that from the side of someone else's work, the master always seems quick.
    Maybe you should go to the factory and start building ships so that it’s smaller
    indicate. I am writing once again the military enterprises in our Urals plow in 2-3 shifts. There are not enough people and especially professionals.

    And also to you that the military should show how much and what equipment is produced.

    On our holiday, I congratulate all the seaman serving and serving on ships on submarines and on land.
    1. slava11
      slava11 27 July 2014 17: 25
      +1
      Deeply respected hard worker, you sincerely believe that in the modern world you can hide something ????? Well, if only from their own. But the truth behind the vulture is very convenient to hide. So all the same, 50 are some ships. I think - I’m not sure that by the end of the year 50 ships around the world will not be launched (please do not give the example of Grachat Belchat and other auxiliary vessels).
  43. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 27 July 2014 17: 23
    +1
    Well, at least rubber boats were not counted in these 50 pieces. If even a third of these are standing ships, then this is already a real force, a real breakthrough in shipbuilding. With such a policy of ours, including our overseas "friends", there is simply no other way out but to build up military force - there is simply no club.
    1. slava11
      slava11 27 July 2014 17: 31
      0
      How much does it cost to maintain one frigate class ship per year? Cruiser? Someone thought that to build-buy is not everything. The USSR was destroyed not by the defense industry enterprises, but by the content of what they released.
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 27 July 2014 18: 33
      0
      Overseas friends hit insanity, with expeditionary and simply expensive useless toys.

      This year, the United States - 0 destroyers are commissioned. But all sorts of support barges and LCAC carriers are riveting, well, and LCS - which the trimaran is already remaking because it does not hold power.

      Here the PLA Navy receives ships of the main classes as much as the rest of the world combined.
  44. katalonec. 2014
    katalonec. 2014 27 July 2014 18: 31
    +1
    They began to overhaul the old ones, in Vladivostok they installed the BOD "Admiral Tributs", they are overhauled, inside all the old they break down without pity, and the main complexes will also be replaced.
  45. donavi49
    donavi49 27 July 2014 18: 47
    +3
    Of the main:
    1 - Persistent and 20380 on the BF are all, 4 units will form a connection. More for the fleet of this type will not be built.
    2 (3) RTOs - Grad Sviyazhsk, Uglich, in principle, they were ready to transfer last year, but they dragged before that, only on the day of the Navy. Although there are no problems with them. Ustyug had already left for the Caspian, but when they accept the question, according to the plan this year, but again they can procrastinate until the next.
    3 Dugong - 1 on Pacific Fleet, 1 on CFL and 1 on BF.
    2 rescue tugboat (pictured) - SB-45 at CFL, the second at the BSF.

    The rest is a trifle, raptors, turtlenecks, tugs from Pella (10 + pieces).

    Next year's parent 11356 is 100%, the main 636 DEPL this year is most likely.
    1. slava11
      slava11 27 July 2014 19: 33
      +1
      Thank. There are realists.
  46. Grim Reaper
    Grim Reaper 27 July 2014 20: 41
    +2
    On TV I watched the parade in Severomorsk! Ah handsome! Just a great show, and whoever saw it live - probably emotions and positive for the year ahead! Happy holidays to you guys !!!!
  47. morprepud
    morprepud 27 July 2014 21: 03
    0
    For ALL Russian sailors and the memory of the fallen:
    Upstairs, you comrades, everything is in place!

    The last parade is coming!
    Our proud "Varangian" does not surrender to the enemy,
    No one wants mercy!

    All pennants curl and chains rattle
    Anchors rise to the top.
    Ready for battle guns in a row
    In the sun, sinister ominously

    From the marina faithful we will go into battle
    Towards death threatening us
    For the motherland in the open sea we die
    Where are waiting for the yellow-headed devils!

    Whistles and rattles and rumbles around.
    Thunder guns, hissing shells,
    And our fearless and proud "Varangian" became
    Like hell!

    In death agony tremble body,
    The thunder of guns, and the noise, and the walls,
    And the ship is engulfed in a sea of ​​fire, -
    It is time to say goodbye.

    Goodbye, comrades! With God, cheers!
    The boiling sea beneath us!
    Brothers, we didn’t think yesterday,
    What will die today under the waves!

    Neither a stone nor a cross will say where they lay down
    To the glory we are the Russian flag,
    Only the waves of the sea will glorify in the distance
    The heroic death of "Varyag"! [
  48. 3vs
    3vs 27 July 2014 21: 07
    0
    It's a good news.
    Only now the feeling is growing that before the new year it may already begin
    real war.
    A bunch of satanic shit wants to load the whole world in the last possible
    for our civilization a world war.
  49. silverwolf88
    silverwolf88 27 July 2014 21: 12
    0
    Russia, with its enormous length of maritime borders, simply needs a strong fleet and developed coastal infrastructure to support it. 50 ships ... this is not a lot and not a little ... it is exactly as much as we can ... and this is a good sign.
    It is necessary to adopt a comprehensive fleet development program for several decades to come ... building ships is long enough ... analyzing the possible challenges of our time and not forgetting the current period.
  50. Rigla
    Rigla 27 July 2014 21: 59
    0
    Whatever it was, but still the business is slowly getting better. By the way, according to the official figure of 50 ships, this is even more than was laid down in the 90s (since 1993).