Normal western country

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Normal western country


An unknown Ukrainian citizen wrote something to me about Borodaya and “what would the Russian Federation do if it were a normal Western country?”

They asked - we answer.

If Russia were a normal western country, it would declare a special operation to force Ukraine to peace, within which Ukraine would bomb Ukrainian cities for several months, first of all Kiev. One of the first goals would be the Kiev telecentre.

Then a "weighted" peace treaty, approved by the UN Security Council, would be signed. The treaty would imply the withdrawal of Ukrainian troops from the declared (not controlled by the rebels, but the declared) territory of Novorossia, the deployment of Russian troops and UN peacekeepers there (if UN peacekeepers are against, then you can do without them, but in such conditions peacekeepers will, of course, be in favor) . At the same time, the treaty would proclaim Novorossia as an integral part of Ukraine and would launch the peace negotiations between Ukraine and Novorossia.

The negotiations would have lasted for ten years. During this time, the disloyal population of the Beard and Co. would have been squeezed out from the territory of Novorossia, and Moscow would once again declare that if Ukraine and Novorossia could not agree, then it would recognize Novorossia as an independent state. In such conditions, there would be no reason to agree on Novorussia, of course, and one day its parliament (without any, we will note, referendum) would declare independence of Novorossia. Moscow would recognize Novorossia, stressing that this is a victory for democracy, and there is little that is written in the peace treaty and the UN Security Council declaration.

Boroday would become the prime minister of the Moscow-funded Novorossia and would receive him at the highest level in the Kremlin. In this case, Colonel Girkin (Prime Minister of New Russia during the transition period) would be charged with war crimes against the Ukrainian population. But in view of the fact that all the witnesses in the Girkin case totaling several dozen people either disappeared or were killed or renounced their testimony, the court would acquit Girkin. Having headed the Alliance for the Future of Novorossia party, he would have become the main competitor of Borodai in the struggle for the highest posts in the new state.

Russia and Novorossia would create a trade association and start negotiations on the accession of Novorossia to the Eurasian Union.

But all this, of course, would have happened only if Russia were a normal western country.

At least, the Republic of Kosovo appeared just like that.
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  1. comrad74
    +94
    27 July 2014 05: 15
    Truly so !!!
    1. +66
      27 July 2014 05: 29
      Everything in this war is torn apart by Western standards and democracy. Even the killing of civilians is called the protection of the sovereignty of the country and 7 terrorists from infancy.
      1. +15
        27 July 2014 07: 21
        Hmm ... I’m sure Natsik will ANSWER everything !!! And the West will still get problems !!! Where else to run Natsik ... !!! So let PREPARE !!!
        1. +5
          27 July 2014 15: 15
          and meanwhile the ukroarmiya almost took the miners! a vague future for Novorossia. but ... you have to wait, suddenly the miners will get up)))
          1. +29
            27 July 2014 17: 25
            Will not get up. Money is more expensive. These guys just knock on the pavement with helmets a lot, but as far as business goes, "my hut is far away, and I didn't have time to hide the bacon." bully
            1. +1
              28 July 2014 17: 43
              What money is sick, all the mines are standing, and the miners are withdrawing their families on foot fifty kilometers with their children. Sorry that we will not die in the steppe with a stick against tanks for a beautiful picture in the news.
            2. DONCHANKA
              +1
              28 July 2014 20: 40
              Do not lie if you do not know. The mining division is and is fighting. Crowds of miners recorded in the militia - no weapons
            3. Rrrtem
              +2
              28 July 2014 22: 05
              it is sad but FACT (I have many friends from the Donetsk region, and most adhere to this point of view - Nuuu .. we don’t shoot yet on the outskirts of the city ... maybe they won’t ... I don’t know, honestly, how I would behave in their place ... but still somehow offensive to the Donbass (
          2. +1
            27 July 2014 18: 12
            Pyrrhic victory (if they, of course, still take Shakhtersk).
          3. +50
            27 July 2014 18: 49
            Guys, I stop to understand anything at all !! I have a relative, distant, but that’s not the point, we communicate with him from time to time, he stood on the Maidan, an ardent Maydan man and a month ago he called me an invader, aggressor, fascist, and a lot of different things. Yesterday I had another conversation with him, which introduced me into a stupor. As in anecdote (only skis do not go, only I fuck .....). So I’ll try in my own words to convey the meaning of his words. In general, he said that the southeast for the most part did not stand on the Maidan and did not defend its values, but the paradox is that they did exactly what the Maidan stood for! That is, they drove away the aligarchs nationalized production and elected people's mayors. So he says that now he doesn’t understand how it happened, who didn’t want to do it, and who stood for it and shed blood remained in some kind of asshole .......... I was very surprised at this hear .... now I'm sitting and thinking too ....
            1. Roza
              +14
              27 July 2014 19: 38
              God forbid that everyone see so much like this relative) ... but until you see this, there are a lot of acquaintances, it’s impossible to find a common language: Russia is the aggressor, imperial manners and Putin is to blame, BUT winter is coming ...
              1. +13
                27 July 2014 23: 37
                About a week ago I was on DR. The celebration was attended by 2 brothers with Ukrainian roots (they themselves were born and have lived all their lives in the Russian Federation). I heard their dialogue about a certain grandfather who "sniffs into the pipe". Gently asked and learned the following ... Their grandfather is in Ukraine. to the question "how are you" a couple of months ago, he scolded Russia and the GDP. Now he just sniffs ..
                Sober up?
            2. +5
              28 July 2014 06: 03
              because those who kicked out the oligarchs, they are with Russia, and those who rode on the Maidan, they are with America, for which the whole Maidan and all Ukraine is only business! they need to pump shale gas from the Donbas, to waste all of Ukraine with nuclear waste (which in America there is nowhere to put it) and the Americans do not care about everything else!
              and New Russia is fighting for their homeland! for your families! and not for smelly dollars!
            3. +3
              28 July 2014 20: 20
              This is what, soon they will bring a summons to protect Maidan values ​​to him, and you will no longer be an invader, but a beloved relative, and he will be asked to stay with you for an indefinite time, until he is overcome.
            4. DONCHANKA
              +1
              28 July 2014 20: 43
              Kiev is beginning to see clearly, fact!
          4. +3
            28 July 2014 12: 33
            Quote: DOMINO100
            and meanwhile the ukroarmiya almost took the miners! a vague future for Novorossia. but ... you have to wait, suddenly the miners will get up)))

            So the miners pulled themselves up.
            1. -1
              28 July 2014 17: 46
              How witty, nothing soon the Nazis will turn to the Crimea and I will see how you have there with a sense of humor.
              1. +1
                28 July 2014 18: 20
                Quote: zaboyschik
                How witty, nothing soon the Nazis will turn to the Crimea and I will see how you have there with a sense of humor.

                Hmm, but, most likely, correctly your words need to be understood like this _
                soon OUR turn around in the Crimea and I'll see
              2. +1
                28 July 2014 20: 32
                Well, we’ll give you a counter-mark in the front ranks by thieves, so that you will not only sway at the fried Bandera, but also smell how they stink.
                http://SSMaker.ru/66202b9c/ - остатки 72 бригады под Амвросиевкой.
              3. 0
                29 July 2014 21: 29
                They will reach the first pillar, and there they themselves will hang themselves or, out of fear, become rich and drown in shit.
          5. 0
            29 July 2014 09: 58
            get up long ..... they drink beer ...........
        2. 0
          29 July 2014 08: 41
          And I already have no confidence that someone will answer for something. I never saw Russia’s tough stance on humiliations by pin-owls and geyrops.
      2. +53
        27 July 2014 07: 59
        In Bulgaria, in the summer camp, the head of the animators group forbade Ukrainian children to display national symbols. The Ukrainian Foreign Ministry is outraged. It’s not acting democratically. When the former Ukrainian foreign minister is swearing in the direction of GDP, it’s democratic.
        1. avg
          +6
          27 July 2014 14: 06
          It is interesting to know what kind of symbolism it was, was it not the one with which the maidan was painted?
          As for the article, I would like to supplement it.
          “Anyone who did the coup d'etat would slowly bend in The Hague.”
          As for the author of the "smart question" about a Western country, he should distract himself from the "Globe of Ukraine", he will learn a lot about life on the planet.
        2. +3
          27 July 2014 15: 17
          not only Ukrainian symbols, but also Russian were asked not to advertise in order to avoid conflicts. write the whole news.
          1. +4
            28 July 2014 06: 08
            Our Foreign Ministry did not show hysteria about this and did not send a consul.
      3. +35
        27 July 2014 08: 55
        Twenty five again!

        Even the question of this European is no longer politically correct! What does it mean “if Russia were a normal country?” Yes, in general, the most normal country in the world arena! Russia is not hypocritical, does not flirt with everyone at once, but has its own special point of view, does not crawl on its belly and does not grovel in front of the United States, unlike the whole of Europe, it never passes off black as white and vice versa, and even disinterestedly and at the expense of its victims the Europeans come to your aid ...!

        The only negative that I see is the gentleness and generosity inherent only to really strong countries!
        And if you Europeans really wouldn’t already discuss what to do with Ukraine, and how to bite Russia more painfully in order to earn Uncle Sam’s baklava, you’d get used to seeing a new entity on the Google maps as part of Russia-the Ukrainian federal district!
        1. +2
          27 July 2014 11: 21
          the most normal country on the world stage! Russia

          The article, unwittingly, suggests that the concept of a "normal European country" is one of the transitional states of some kind of evolving state formation, from the level of "a country of not frightened idiots" to the level of development defined in the above quote.
        2. bda
          bda
          +23
          27 July 2014 12: 21
          RUSSIA TIME TO BECOME NORMAL RUSSIA, in accordance with its own and only its standards, rules and values!
          1. +2
            28 July 2014 13: 23
            Quote: bda
            RUSSIA TIME TO BECOME NORMAL RUSSIA, in accordance with its own and only its standards, rules and values!

            Russia has already become one! drinks
            Crimea, the first step! hi
        3. +4
          27 July 2014 13: 53
          No UkrFO !!!!! Only Chernihiv, Poltava, Odessa, Zaporizhzhya
        4. +7
          27 July 2014 14: 16
          There is no UkrFO !!!! Only Chernihiv, Poltava, Kharkov, Zaporizhzhya and some other separate regions as part of the Russian Federation. I don’t need to repeat the mistakes of the past. I don’t know about Kiev and Zapadentsev yet, here I need to measure 77 times before making a decision. And all this only after they slurp d .... shit, and will pass all 9 circles of the European ADA. And not before.
        5. +8
          27 July 2014 15: 47
          Wait a second, by the way, the author writes "a normal western (important) country", and we are just a normal country, and in what context he writes this way is not entirely clear, since he does not assess this "normality". Personally, I took this article, given the analogy with Yugoslavia, as a satire over the West ...
        6. +1
          27 July 2014 18: 15
          The most normal country for ukrov is Ukraine, because they do not even imagine that it is possible to live differently.
      4. +5
        27 July 2014 09: 03
        SLAUGHTER
        http://kv-journal.info/bojnya._chast_2.html
      5. +5
        27 July 2014 12: 37
        WELL, SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
    2. +34
      27 July 2014 05: 29
      Since February 21, Ukraine has not been a country, but a territory under external control, and not European, but overseas for its owners. From Europe there were only traffic rules, which few really adhere to.
      1. +8
        27 July 2014 08: 14
        Quote: Canep
        Since February 21, Ukraine has not been a country, but a territory under external control, and not European, but overseas for its owners. From Europe there were only traffic rules, which few really adhere to.

        The most accurate definition of the state of land called usraina.
    3. +26
      27 July 2014 05: 30
      But Russia did not even attack Ukraine!

      1. “Near 20.30 Moscow time (26.07) 41, a Ukrainian soldier left his military units and arrived at the Ukrainian checkpoint Izvarino. "They appealed to the militias with a request to assist them in moving to the territory of Russia due to the fact that they do not want to fight against their own people."

      From the underground "colonel" of the junta:

      2. One document is the report of Colonel Grishchenko, commander of military unit B0849 on unauthorized abandonment of combat positions in the Amvrosievka area and failure to comply with the 150 order by soldiers and officers of the Ukrainian army from the 3 mechanized battalion, tank battalion and company of snipers who surrendered weapons and refuse to take part in a meaningless slaughter.

      3. The second document testifies to the checkpoint of the Ukrainian army on July 23. During which it turned out that the 32 fighters from among the mobilized changed into civilian clothes, left their weapons and disappeared in an unknown direction. The search for the soldiers did not yield results, cell phones do not respond.

      And what about Lviv. And are they red?
      4. With the declared staffing of the battalion "Lviv" at 450 people, after the completion of the formation the personnel totaled a little more than 400, several dozen of which later left the service without permission.
      On July 23, relatives blocked in Lviv from 200 to 250 troops who were to be transported to the east of Ukraine. Nevertheless, on July 24 the battalion was sent to the war, but only 150 people arrived in the Donbass.

      5. Well, let me remind you of more than 100 soldiers of the 72 brigade, who ...... as the command says, deserted from the ATO zone.

      And this is far from all.

      Meanwhile, the events in Nikolaev are developing in a revolutionary way, and if in the coming days the authorities continue to remain silent, the situation can finally get out of control:

      All night connecting the two shores of the Southern Bug in the center of Nikolaev, the Varvarovsky bridge was blocked by the wives and mothers of servicemen of the 79 airmobile brigade. Hundreds of cars were blocked.

      Having dispersed in the morning, the relatives of the paratroopers abandoned in the “ATO zone” gathered again in the evening and again blocked the movement. Also last night a Molotov cocktail was thrown into the window of the city military registration and enlistment office in the Ship district of Nikolaev.
      Judging by the available information, women from the Nikolaev area on the Varvarovsky bridge today were joined by their colleagues in misfortune from Zaporizhia.

      http://rusvesna.su/news/1406406984
      1. +10
        27 July 2014 05: 40
        Quote: Sid.74
        Judging by the available information, women from the Nikolaev area on the Varvarovsky bridge today were joined by their colleagues in misfortune from Zaporizhia.

        The process has begun. Judging by the development of events, Kiev will soon be fighting. We couldn’t take Novorossia with a swoop, it’s time to juggle suitcases for the junta .. if they have time.
        1. +28
          27 July 2014 05: 48
          Quote: subbtin.725
          The process has begun.

          In principle, yes! It’s not yet clear that the soldiers will run to Russia faster or bring new ones! what

          They pass from the Chernivtsi region, Vizhnitsky district, Storozhenetsky district, Glibotsky district, Kelmenetsky district - everyone was surrounded by punishers, movement on the roads of the areas is prohibited, it is forbidden to leave their settlements, comb through all the villages and mobilize everyone in a row!
          Judging by the movement, they are preparing something grand. Girls from these areas work for us, they called back home five minutes ago, still worse, cinemas and cafes surround and take everyone away!

          Do not care, let's go further!
          1. leglun
            +1
            27 July 2014 10: 38
            While the fresh will be brought, those who fight will be bombed and shot by the militia of New Russia
        2. +14
          27 July 2014 05: 50
          Quote: subbtin.725
          it’s time for the junta to pack suitcases .. if they have time.

          Already packed, do not worry about them, but in Ukraine, it seems that the Maidan begins.
          1. +10
            27 July 2014 12: 52
            Lysistrata was written in 411 BC The main idea here is a protest against the war. In this comedy, the question of the speedy conclusion of peace is taken up by women led by Lysistrata, who decided not to let men in until they put an end to the war [88]. Moreover, the very name of the main character speaks for itself - Lysistratus, literally, is translated as "dismissing the army."
        3. +14
          27 July 2014 06: 28
          Quote: subbtin.725
          it’s time for the junta to pack suitcases .. if they have time.

          Yes, they gathered, but only next week they urgently collect BP again !!! And they were going to rest before August 12!
          "It is planned that an extraordinary meeting will be held partially closed, where a number of issues will be discussed related to the investigation of the causes of the crash of the Malaysian Airlines МН17 aircraft, in particular, the agreement on the use of civilian police forces.

          The President, the Chairman of the Verkhovna Rada, the Prime Minister and the leaders of parliamentary factions agreed on immediate return to consideration of draft laws "On Amendments to the Law of Ukraine" On the State Budget of Ukraine for 2014 " (THERE IS NO MONEY FOR ATO, BUT WHERE_TO IT IS NECESSARY TO TAKE) and "On Amendments to the Tax Code of Ukraine and some other legislative acts of Ukraine." The deputies also intend to consider the issue of a vote of confidence in the Prime Minister.

          The President once again stressed that the collapse of the coalition in the Verkhovna Rada should not paralyze the work of parliament and is not a reason for the resignation of the government. The head of state is counting on further joint work with Arseniy Yatsenyuk and the entire Cabinet of Ministers, which does not exclude the staffing of the government team. "

          And the last time the deputies were back to back, let's see how many this time will appear! wink
          1. +3
            27 July 2014 06: 35
            Quote: Egoza
            And the last time the deputies were back to back, let's see how many this time will appear! wink

            I feel that only the Communists will come out and not all of them! winked Elena, welcome! hi
          2. +3
            27 July 2014 08: 39
            Quote: Egoza
            The head of state counts on further joint work with Arseniy Yatsenyuk and the entire Cabinet of Ministers, which does not exclude the staffing of the government team. "

            Counts correctly. - In uranium mines.
          3. leglun
            +3
            27 July 2014 10: 43
            Please recall that everyone who is sitting upstairs in Ukraine came to power by forcibly overthrowing President Yanukovych (I’m not justifying him, he’s a thief) And no Parashenko is the head of state, and the Hunter and his clique will all appear before the court of Ukraine itself and the Hague Tribunal !!!!
            1. +5
              27 July 2014 17: 43
              with a close examination of the presidents of ukraine - their personalities, their biographies, their activities in office ... so Yanukovych, the best of them! .. in a "galaxy of figures", eh !? among which Yanukovych (!!!) is the best!
      2. +5
        27 July 2014 06: 23
        Quote: Sid.74
        5. Well, let me remind you of more than 100 soldiers of the 72 brigade, who ...... as the command says, deserted from the ATO zone.

        72 APU brigade: After shelling near Amvrosiyivka, we ourselves were forced to get to the unit. We were accused of desertion
        After shelling near Amvrosievka, soldiers of the 72-th Belotserkovsky separate motorized brigade themselves reached the location of the unit.
        This was said by a soldier of the brigade Viktor Goiko on the TV channel “112 Ukraine” about this: “After we were twice fired by the Grad near Amvrosievka, we wrote reports about sending us on vacation for rehabilitation. We were provided with 3 KrAZ. We were loaded there, unaccompanied, and taken to the village of Rozovka, Zaporizhzhya region. They said that there would be buses waiting for us, there were no buses, we traveled by ourselves. ”
        They themselves got to their place of residence, agreed that on the 25 of July they would meet in the Bila Tserkva, and on the 24 of the number they called some military men from the military commissariats and said that they were deserters. “Today we were in the unit, gathered in the assembly hall. There was a commissar of the region, there were representatives of the VSP service (Military Law Enforcement Service, - RED.). They checked all of us on the list that we were not hiding in part. We are all in place. We all wrote a report, under which everyone put his signature, ”said Goiko.
        He hopes that charges will be dropped from them.
        http://rusvesna.su/news/1406381673
      3. +6
        27 July 2014 06: 58
        Do not decrease, do not add. The article is a definite plus. Beautifully laid out. Just do not understand svidomye again nichrome ...
        1. +12
          27 July 2014 07: 07
          And here is the latest news from the "normal western country": Restless in other regions in western Ukraine. Despite the censorship in the media, there are reports of mass protests in the Ivano-Frankivsk region: for example, in connection with the rallies at the military registration and enlistment offices, the forces of the SBU and the Ministry of Internal Affairs in the Kolomyi region are on high alert. A similar situation is developing in Transcarpathia. On the night before, residents of a number of villages blocked roads and searched passing vehicles, looking for those who draw up "mobilization lists".

          Even in Bandera’s most of all regions, Lviv, the protesters halved the Lvov battalion heading for the Donbass, dismantling the mobilized to their homes. as a result, only 150 people arrived at the scene of the fighting. Protesters are not limited to peaceful action. So, the house of the mayor of Lviv was fired from a grenade launcher.
          True, ok ...?
          1. +6
            27 July 2014 10: 11
            Quote: RusDV
            Even in Bandera’s most of all regions, Lviv, protesters halved the battalion of Lviv heading for the Donbass

            Zapadentsy, as far as I understand, are pursuing their narrow and pragmatic
            goals. They need only EU visas, but it’s better to include Galicia there, without any problems making pots from ... in Europe. To die in the Donbass - that ni, ni required. No.
            They have no idea for the Great Ukraine. This is the main problem for the "rotten Ukrainian intelligentsia" in Kiev, in the central regions.
            Activists in Donetsk. It is necessary for Parashenka to save the nation ii, to declare a new slogan: hto don’t skip under the volleys of the militia city in the Donbass, that is not a wide Ukrainian! lol
          2. 0
            27 July 2014 18: 34
            And what? The norms of European democracy are respected.
      4. rhd
        +2
        27 July 2014 10: 04
        Good! VERY GOOD! FINALLY understood where they had given their son or husband !!!!!! AND TO WHOM !!! And they remembered the old (RUSSIAN !!!) custom — decide how to be - WORLDWIDE! May God come out of this at least then !!! Maybe they will understand who rules them ... fool
        1. +1
          27 July 2014 14: 07
          When THEY start to decide, as you said, "With the whole world", they will again succeed in "MAIDAN" !! Have already passed ...
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      5. +3
        27 July 2014 13: 01
        Everything is going fine - those who are ideological are grinding in the Donbass. Those who do not want to fight - run as soon as possible. There are riots at home against sending men to the army, and if data on losses in the media comes up, then who the hell is on the agenda. In general, dill is slowly but slowly cleared of banderlogs and patriots of dill, which would shoot us in the back, if that. The best cure for hysteria is a sharp pain, such as a slap in the face that clears the brains and now Ukrainians get it.
      6. +4
        27 July 2014 15: 19
        Sid.74
        But Russia did not even attack Ukraine!

        Anecdote in the topic:
        - Monya, I don’t understand at all for our Ukraine ... Everyone insists on mine, we are fighting for
        Russia!
        - And sho?
        - So far the results of the Ukrainian-Russian war for our Ukraine are disappointing: dozens of tanks, armored vehicles, self-propelled artillery, helicopters and aircraft were lost. Many of our Ukrainians died, and some even surrendered ...
        And what do you think? ... The Russian army has still not come to war!
    4. Matroskin 18
      +31
      27 July 2014 05: 44
      If Russia were a normal western country

      it would have placed 700 military bases around Europe and the USA, printed rubles in wagons, half of Ukraine would have been in prisons like Guantanamo, and the whole objectionable world would have been declared terrorists!
      1. +4
        27 July 2014 18: 38
        Thank God that we are just a normal country, not a normal European country.
    5. +16
      27 July 2014 08: 22
      27.07.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX Attention: a provocation is possible in Pavlograd!

      Dear compatriots! Especially the inhabitants of Pavlograd, Dnipropetrovsk region! Read this message and pass it on to everyone!

      В
      the city of Pavlograd, Dnipropetrovsk region is preparing a terrible
      provocation, the scale of which, in terms of the number of victims, will be blocked by the victims
      Malaysian Boeing at times!

      Kolomoisky and
      Kiev junta trained groups of Russian-speaking militants who,
      under the guise of militia DNI and LC, should arrange a night in Pavlograd
      "Long knives." Hundreds of civilians will be killed! Allegedly in revenge for
      dead in the Lugansk and Donetsk republics.

      Already prepared
      “False witnesses” who confirm this. It can even happen
      tonight! You can not give the Nazis the opportunity to kill with impunity!

      Repost
      This message is to all your friends and relatives, call them! More than
      people will know about it, the less likely it is
      will happen!

      Our indifference must stop moral freaks,
      who conceived this terrible provocation! Do not take sin into the soul
      take pity on those people who can be killed!
      1. +5
        27 July 2014 13: 38
        Residents of Pavlograd urgently need to arm themselves with everything they can, from kitchen knives to a firearm !!!
        1. +2
          27 July 2014 18: 41
          A relative lives in Pavlograd. So she refuses to talk with her Russian relatives on Skype and the phone: I don’t speak with the invaders. But anyway, it’s a pity if they kill.
          1. +2
            27 July 2014 21: 48
            Quote: Kerzhak
            So she refuses to talk with her Russian relatives on Skype and the phone: I don’t speak with the invaders.

            I can’t imagine how to brainwash so that relatives carry such nonsense ... On the outskirts, do they add LSD to drinking water? In the course of hohlopithecus, this is a diagnosis in which people's consciousness is in a twilight state. Invaders of what? Crimea? Let them go to Crimea and ask those who live there, who is Russia for them - the occupier or the homeland? In fact, even the most frostbitten Maidan activists know the answer. It is treated only by lobotomy.
            1. +2
              28 July 2014 09: 44
              Yes, everything is very simple for Ukrainians, in March, relatives from Slavyansk called their father-in-law, yelling "fuck you are coming to us," at the end of June, the whole family clung to it, lived for three weeks, the poor mother-in-law suffered, after the militia left Slavyansk they called "all the rules come," a couple of days a young man calls the daughter of relatives "I will come with my brother to you, they want to call us to the ukroarmiya", the mother-in-law prayed and stood in a pose, now these "refugees" are visiting relatives in Tatarstan, they are too clever ... ...
    6. +6
      27 July 2014 08: 55
      Thank God, Russia is not a normal Western country.
    7. +3
      27 July 2014 08: 56
      Terrorist actions of "peaceful" demonstrators (view from Germany)
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4cuJZQdfvo#t=322
    8. +1
      27 July 2014 14: 02
      So can a proven scenario come true? If dill is so eager for Europe, well, do this in a European way. And in the declared territory to include a couple more regions - Kharkov, Odessa and further on the list.
    9. 0
      27 July 2014 20: 05
      Quote: comrad74
      Truly so !!!

      Spicy, effective, cheap and cheerful.
    10. +2
      27 July 2014 20: 31
      The author forgot to add about the illegal trade in organs for transplantation as a source of personal income for bastards in Kosovo.
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  3. Sergei 57
    +5
    27 July 2014 05: 23
    And this is normal Ukraine ????????
    1. +9
      27 July 2014 05: 33
      Quote: Sergey 57
      And this is normal Ukraine ????????

      Why not!?!? White European people approve of the corps de ballet !!!


      The Verkhovna Rada went on vacation without allocating money for the continuation of "ATO" in Donbass

      The Verkhovna Rada went on vacation until August 12. The vice-speaker of BP Ruslan Koshulinsky said this, closing the session of parliament today, on 25 July, the REGNUM correspondent reports.

      According to Koszulinsky, the next session of the parliament will begin at 10:00 on August 12. At the same time, the deputies have not resolved the issue of the resignation of Arseniy Yatsenyuk and his government and the approval of key government bills necessary to continue the "anti-terrorist operation" and the economy as a whole.
      1. 0
        27 July 2014 13: 15
        Quote: Sid.74
        Quote: Sergey 57
        And this is normal Ukraine ????????

        Why not!?!? White European people approve of the corps de ballet !!!


        The Verkhovna Rada went on vacation without allocating money for the continuation of "ATO" in Donbass

        The Verkhovna Rada went on vacation until August 12. The vice-speaker of BP Ruslan Koshulinsky said this, closing the session of parliament today, on 25 July, the REGNUM correspondent reports.

        According to Koszulinsky, the next session of the parliament will begin at 10:00 on August 12. At the same time, the deputies have not resolved the issue of the resignation of Arseniy Yatsenyuk and his government and the approval of key government bills necessary to continue the "anti-terrorist operation" and the economy as a whole.

        All in the trenches! There is nothing to rest, all in a heap and cover in one gulp. One fucking election soon.
  4. +2
    27 July 2014 05: 31
    Kosovo is Kosovo, and Kiev is Kiev - which is similar, I think it will be, we will definitely re-expect Kiev from the Nazis ...
  5. +8
    27 July 2014 05: 33
    If Russia were a "normal European country", it would have long been within the borders of the USSR.
    1. Aibolit
      +9
      27 July 2014 07: 13
      rather Tsarist Russia!
  6. +2
    27 July 2014 05: 43
    "But what would the Russian Federation do if it were a normal Western country?"

    Or maybe her on .... Let's step into the EU for a couple of months, create the "miracle" described in the article, and then the EU for ...? wassat
    1. +5
      27 July 2014 08: 09
      Quote: VNP1958PVN
      Step into the EU for a couple of months

      They will not let me in until you hold a gay pride parade on Red Square, and so that in honor of this, rainbow flags over the Kremlin. Do you need it?
  7. +10
    27 July 2014 05: 48
    A grotesque country, grotesque rulers ...
    1. +8
      27 July 2014 13: 18
      He only has to sit on the throne for a couple of months and they will merge him, but he will forever go down in history as a murderer!
      1. +1
        27 July 2014 18: 46
        Was it really the dream of his life to go down in history as a murderer?
      2. +1
        27 July 2014 20: 35
        I have an unreasonable foreboding that the piglet will not survive until the new year.
        1. 0
          27 July 2014 22: 07
          Quote: Balu
          I have an unreasonable foreboding that the piglet will not survive until the new year.

          Why unreasonable?
      3. 0
        28 July 2014 13: 09
        Jews, or rather REAL JEWS (not Zh.i.dy.), performed the Pulsa de Nur rite in relation to Kolomoisky.
        What it is:
        Pulsa de noura, more correct in many including Pulsei de nur (Aram. פולסא דנורא, “fire strike”; the word “pulse”, like the Russian “pulse” (heartbeats), is borrowed from Latin [1]) - a figurative expression in Talmudic literature, meaning “painful punishment at the level of the non-physical, essential world. "

        Simply put, this is a Judaic curse, the rite itself is quite complicated and it can only be applied to ethnic Jews. The real name of Poroshenko, as everyone knows, is VALTSMAN (Poroshenko is the name of his wife). I think it's time to prescribe "Pulsa de Nur" in relation to Waltzman ...
  8. +18
    27 July 2014 06: 02
    And what is a normal European country? This is legalized drug use, corruption of young people, legalized same-sex marriage, etc., etc. Russia does not want to be a normal European country, we better be an ordinary Asian country. We are Scythians, Scythians.
  9. Kakaktus
    +3
    27 July 2014 06: 09
    scared for people.
  10. VICTOR-61
    +17
    27 July 2014 07: 02
    Under Communism, I liked a lot of patriotism towards the country — respect — prohibition of drugs and much more, and in a democracy, one false gay and another
    1. 11111mail.ru
      +22
      27 July 2014 08: 23
      Quote: VICTOR-61
      I liked a lot when Communism

      I also liked a lot when SOCIALISM: powerful Soviet Army, access to healthcare, free and quality education, absence of unemployment, invisibility of homeless people (then they were nicknamed "Bichi"), absence of guest workers, even jokes about Leonid Ilyich and Petka with Vasily Ivanovich.
      1. +8
        27 July 2014 13: 42
        Summer pioneer camps forgot to write. All summer I didn’t climb out of them. Upon arrival home, the alien’s own apartment seemed ...
      2. +1
        27 July 2014 14: 15
        under socialism
        The amendment is substantial! good
        Communis was only "our goal" (for those who understood)
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  11. +3
    27 July 2014 07: 22
    It asks a friend from a third country in the center of Europe! Yes, yes Ruin has now become a third country if not a fifth. The standard of living there will now be at the level of African countries, and not the most leading ones.
  12. +8
    27 July 2014 07: 50
    It's time to enter the "Maidan of the Brain" into a reference book on psychiatry
    1. +6
      27 July 2014 12: 21
      Dahl gave them a definition for a long time.

      MAYDAN

      MAIDAN m. Area, place, field; || sublime glade and || the forest plant standing on it: tar mill, tar tar, arable land, resin, saltpeter maidan, a plant working on the outside; see buda; || assembly place; || stanitsa, prefab hut; || hunting hut in the forest, on a clearing; || lower arch, swirl in a wide stretch; || bargaining, a bazaar, or a place on it where fraudsters gather, to play dice, grain, toss, cards, where the desire comes from: talent for maidan! that in sib. means: good luck fishing! || South Barrow, ancient grave. Maidanishche cf. kind of settlement, person in the forest, or where the forest was, and the weekday, tarry maidan. Maidan, relating to the Maidan. Maidan barrow, grave, dug up, excavated from above, with a hollow. - a pit, a kind of chest, for drain of resin, under a chicken furnace. Maidan, Maidan, cheat, trade the game; || wind, skip and lose your own. Maydannik, Maidan, fraudster, wobbling around the bazaars, beating people in dice, grain, thimble, toad, cards. For every Maidan ten ten boobies. Do not be booby, there would be no Maidan workers.
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  14. korablik
    +1
    27 July 2014 07: 58
    What prevented the supply of weapons to Novorossia in April? The junta at that moment was disorganized. Weapons were easily taken away from the advanced detachments. And now we’ll have to stupidly hope that the militias will stand and hold out until the complete economic and military-political collapse of Kuev. But green candy wrappers will throw them anyway. Though not enough, but so that they could hold on. The army will stupidly carry out orders. War for years.
    1. +2
      27 July 2014 11: 15
      The same disorganization of resistance. By and large, in addition to the riflemen and the practically non-combat-ready East, there were not even units.
    2. +1
      27 July 2014 18: 52
      Even if the junta wins in the east in the coming weeks (this is in the order of delirium), then what will it get?
      - complete paralysis of the economy, Makhnovism throughout the territory of the former state.
      Even with a military victory, this is a complete defeat of the idea of ​​Ukrainians.
      Ukraine is no more and never will be.
  15. +7
    27 July 2014 08: 00
    May Russia remain as it has been for centuries!
    "Here the Russian spirit, here it smells of Russia" - modesty has always adorned the Russians and other peoples living nearby.
  16. +5
    27 July 2014 08: 07
    Yes, everything is fine ... I’ve gone on vacation, you say? Let's see how many will return back after this vacation. In the Luhansk region, like mines are closing. In short, Ukraine is not pulling a war. Because the soldiers want to kill, but strongly disagree. that they would also be shot and even killed. Parents and relatives of the soldier also realized that it would seem like a bummer with military trophies, but to get a coffin with the body of a son / husband / as a trophy ... somehow this is completely different.
  17. 11111mail.ru
    +6
    27 July 2014 08: 36
    And I am against the "normal western country". I am for the development of the Russian Federation using the positive experience of the USSR. Having fraternized with Western bandits, Elson's criminal regime turned the once prosperous part of the USSR into "ErEfiya", an ugly education for eating up the remnants of accumulated under socialism, selling off state property and natural resources for a penny, and withdrawing assets over the hill. What are we holding on to? On natural resources, bye. And then?
  18. +2
    27 July 2014 08: 37
    European, you say? Normal European country with Strategic Missile Forces? And with such a territory. And with such resources. I think the EU would be "somewhat wider", and the question of how many "poles" the world has would simply not be.
  19. +1
    27 July 2014 08: 37
    if there were mushrooms in your mouth, then it would be not a mouth but a whole garden! You won’t find a country more normal than Russia in the world — another thing is what kind of power we got in punishment. And if you measure with the type of EU and NATO, then for sure, our drunk people would piss from bigbane at night, and all schools urgently learned Russian and the main currency would be the ruble.
  20. +4
    27 July 2014 08: 37
    Quote: Zomanus
    Parents and relatives of the soldier also realized that it would seem like a bummer with military trophies, but to get a coffin with the body of a son / husband as a trophy ... somehow it’s not at all right.

    Exactly. Although it does not interfere with them for the time being squealing "take away, good people, they are being killed there," as if these sons / husbands themselves came to New Russia to play tag, and they were treacherously attacked by uncles with weapons.
    And it would be high time that in the brains of parents and relatives, "no war" was imitated, and not "rotation" and "normal support."
    1. DONCHANKA
      0
      28 July 2014 21: 12
      Notice, not one of the protesting women screamed, stop the war! Oral - give reinforcements, give armored personnel carriers, take our boys out of the circle. Maidanism is incurable!
      1. 0
        29 July 2014 10: 21
        precisely noticed .......... these women do not care that there are children and the same women are killed ......
  21. +1
    27 July 2014 08: 38
    This is called "poking your face in the poop" of an unknown citizen of Ukraine.
    Moreover, poop - not his ........
  22. +21
    27 July 2014 08: 54
    Came from England, I watched interesting moments there, I will report to you Friends. No matter how much the Western and European press and TV may go out of their way to portray us as "villains", in fact, everything is far from the case (subjectively, from personal observations):
    1. The police are carefully watching the tourists (guess where you are from). When trying to openly demonstrate Ukrainian symbolism (and especially the trident), politely hint that it is impossible. Twice I saw how young guys (30 years old) began to speak loudly in a mov. The police are right there, one tried to be outraged (they say his rights, they say they are also Europe and so on). What earned the frank smiles of the police and forwarding him most likely to the station. Although in Russian t-shirts with the symbols of Russia and the USSR no attention. As well as a light mate of tipsy citizens of ours.
    2. In Indian cafes, oil painting, not only are tourists from independent, it seems that Ukrainians living there are reluctant to serve.
    3. I talked a lot with people, I have never heard anything hostile. The main question is what is going on? Well, Russia and Ukraine are clear (near), and where does England? The British what? There are few problems of their own (and there turned out to be a lot of them). About the United States generally speak with sarcasm. They sat in a pub for a long time, people drank normally like that (and since he himself was not a drinker, he talked with the bartender and watched what was happening). The conversations are the same as ours for a beer. But when some kind of pretzel, having seen the Russians (after a fair amount of drunk). He began to water with aglitskoy mate, was severely besieged by visitors. After which they apologized and poured before us wink An interesting attitude towards the Russian nouveau riches living there. They say honestly, we don’t love them, and they add right there - after all, you (that is, we) don’t love them either, right?
    Then he was not for long in Germany, the picture was approximately the same. Somehow like this.

    PS I almost forgot. About his government (except the queen, this is a taboo), or silent, or obscenities.
    1. +3
      27 July 2014 13: 48
      Thanks for the info. Apparently I myself will not go over the hill. sad
      1. +1
        27 July 2014 14: 24
        Never say never.
      2. +2
        27 July 2014 16: 39
        And I hope that the places I want to visit will be part of the Russian Federation! Here the Crimea waited. Next in line are Kiev, Lviv, Tallinn, Riga, Vilnius ... Tbilisi, Baku! In childhood, I visited Yerevan ... a beautiful city and the people there are hospitable, benevolent. I would also like to Prague and Warsaw, but maybe I will not live.
  23. +2
    27 July 2014 09: 04
    If Russia were a normal Western country, Ukraine would have been torn apart long ago, and a gay parade would have been held in bombed Kiev)))
  24. +1
    27 July 2014 09: 25
    Neither add nor add.
  25. +1
    27 July 2014 09: 46
    Quote: RusDV
    Even in Bandera’s most of all regions, Lviv, the protesters halved the Lvov battalion heading for the Donbass, dismantling the mobilized to their homes. as a result, only 150 people arrived at the scene of the fighting. Protesters are not limited to peaceful action. So, the house of the mayor of Lviv was fired from a grenade launcher.
    True, ok ...?


    It comes to the fact that soon in each region, there will be its own Maidan.
    1. 0
      27 July 2014 11: 34
      Quote: Stavros
      Quote: RusDV
      Even in Bandera’s most of all regions, Lviv, the protesters halved the Lvov battalion heading for the Donbass, dismantling the mobilized to their homes. as a result, only 150 people arrived at the scene of the fighting. Protesters are not limited to peaceful action. So, the house of the mayor of Lviv was fired from a grenade launcher.
      True, ok ...?


      It comes to the fact that soon in each region, there will be its own Maidan.

      give sovereignty to all republics manufacturing Ukraine))))
  26. +8
    27 July 2014 09: 49
    If you believe the information that they say about the military personnel who leave the battlefield, then everything is correct. An officer who studied as an independent entered a higher military institution, either by pulling money or for loot. For example, to go to the Khmelnytskyi border institution costs 15 thousand bucks, you just have to go 4 more courses to do it. If there is a connection, then in principle for 10 pieces of bucks. Well, if it’s very cool, then for 7 tons of greenery. So among the Ukrainian border guards in uniform of an officer there are no poor people or simple people. Before the Crimea returned to Russia to enter Nakhimovskoye for communications, it cost 5 pieces of bucks. How do I know? About Khmelnitsky University from those with whom he served on the border about Nakhimovsky from a colleague of a contractor for the Navy who himself admitted everything. Another aspect in the presence of 10 to 15 pieces of greenery can quickly make a career from a lieutenant to a major. It’s just that you pay a fee at the time and the commander of the HF will put in a new position, and most importantly at the time of and you can ahead of schedule for any merits.
    1. +2
      27 July 2014 14: 28
      Normal African practice .. yes, and in BV this is practiced quite .. Welcome to ukroSomalia ..
  27. renahazarova
    +2
    27 July 2014 09: 50
    I think that there is no such country "Ukraine": there is "Banderland", "Zombilandia", "Khazaria" and Novorossiya.
  28. +11
    27 July 2014 10: 01
    Now consider whether the war fits into the plans of officers who are directly involved in the hostilities? Of course not. He does not need such a career. And finally, a little irony. A classmate entered Nakhimovskoye. Finished it. It so happened that I was familiar with his mother. She was very happy that her son became an officer. Well, I congratulated her. I’ll say that now in your house a dagger will appear. Your son will wear it for special occasions. And in response, there is no dagger. How am I? On release they will give only resemble for photos and then it will be necessary to return. But if there were 400 bucks then the dagger would stay forever. I think now many have understood about the harsh realities of ukrarmia. Remember the video where the guys from the Ukrrazvedka army were detained. So in the reconnaissance take only on the thieves or oiled. Even if you are a seperman and able to kill 15 at least 150 people alone, there is no one uncle of the matchmaker from the General Staff or just good connections in the army. These are the sadnesses. I personally came across this and I didn’t feel myself at all from such a truth.
  29. naguch
    +1
    27 July 2014 10: 07
    What are we afraid of?
    1. +1
      27 July 2014 10: 21
      in, Medvedev brought troops into South Ossetia and Abkhazia, recognized them, defeated rodents. and most importantly no sanctions, manktsies. I wonder, isn’t it? The west of the couple there pushed and shut up, swallowed. By the way, and the Crimean scenario swallowed. I am 100 % if Russian paratroopers parachute to land in Kiev and arrest Patrashenko, the west will also stoop and shut up.
      1. +6
        27 July 2014 12: 03
        And here is Medvedev then? I didn’t know where to hide until the GDP from China gave the order to begin an operation to enforce peace.
      2. +2
        27 July 2014 15: 48
        sledgehammer
        ... Medvedev sent troops to South Ossetia and Abkhazia, recognized them, defeated rodents ...

        Dear, I allow myself to disagree with this your statement. In confirmation of:
        "If all the merit in the defeat of Georgia belongs to the decisiveness of Dmitry Anatolyevich, then what did Vladimir Putin do in Vladikavkaz? Why did he have to leave the Olympics in Beijing and fly from the other end of the world to the front-line Vladikavkaz? And why did the generals who carried them on their shoulders the whole weight of this war, they unanimously claim that it was the arrival and direct intervention of Vladimir Putin that turned the tide? So, the commander of the North Caucasus Military District Sergei Makarov in the film (08.08.08) openly says that when he felt the support of the prime minister behind his back, then all doubts and questions have disappeared by themselves. " A very important phrase. http://voprosik.net/kto-byl-predatelem-08-08-08/.
      3. +4
        27 July 2014 17: 11
        Is Medvedev the defender of Russia and South Ossetia with Abkhazia? Well then, I'm the Pope.
      4. +1
        27 July 2014 21: 14
        At that time, Medvedev was playing another iPhone, and he had nothing to do with operations on the territory of Ossetia, you should not confuse the ass with the owner
  30. +2
    27 July 2014 10: 16
    and remember before, they waved Russian flags and shouted RUSSIA RUSSIA in Nikolaev, Kharkov, Mariupol, Odessa and even in some cities of Ukraine. why did the people blown away because the cops stsikuny or bribed them to protect the junta? I would have shot Kiev in Yanukovych’s place Maidan from machine guns, and with a calm soul went to Russia.
  31. +1
    27 July 2014 10: 16
    It is so, but only the author did not note that this would not have happened with our country, it is in their jackal flock that this is possible and only in relation to the Russian world.
  32. +2
    27 July 2014 10: 17
    "But what would the Russian Federation do if it were a normal Western country?"
    Fortunately, Russia is Russia, not a normal Western country. The West always, in fact, acted in these three words: saw, came, robbed.
  33. sanek0207
    0
    27 July 2014 10: 37
    I am sure that common sense will finally appear in Europe and all fascists will get what they deserve if Europinoids do not want a repeat of 1945!
    1. 0
      27 July 2014 19: 38
      It will appear when Europe starts to freeze in winter. And winters in Europe lately oh what a cold ...
  34. +3
    27 July 2014 10: 51
    Nice script! It would be better if it were, because even though Russia will introduce troops, though not, sanctions and cries of "aggressor!" will still be. Russia is an enemy for the Naglo-Saxons, the war has been going on for a long time and has not stopped.
    1. +3
      27 July 2014 11: 05
      Quote: Vadim12
      Nice script! It would be better if it were, because even though Russia will introduce troops, though not, sanctions and cries of "aggressor!" will still be. Russia is an enemy for the Naglo-Saxons, the war has been going on for a long time and has not stopped.

      It certainly would be nice, provided that the ruble is the reserve currency.
  35. +3
    27 July 2014 11: 16
    Soon we can. Unlike the Donbass, there may not be such pro-Russian sentiments here, but social tension is reaching unprecedented proportions. The main reason is not even the general deterioration in the standard of living, which is visible throughout the country, but the rapidly growing unemployment.
    In many districts of the Sumy region, they are already talking with might and main about the possibility of a "tougher" struggle for their rights. At the moment, everything is limited to rallies and pickets, which, however, according to Yatsenyuk's classification, already speaks of the connection of people with the FSB. What will happen next - one can only guess.
    At the moment, literally before our eyes, the largest enterprise in the region is dying - Sumy NGO Frunze, which provided work for 12 thousand people. It all started with a delay in salaries and the transition to a three-day work week. Now it was officially announced that the plant is finalizing the latest orders and is closing.
    Exactly the same fate befell many other enterprises. The fact is that the Sumy region is located near Russia and its industry is highly dependent on orders from a neighboring country. Moreover, this dependence on Russian consumers is even stronger here than in the Donbass. In the light of recent events, orders from the Russian Federation have significantly decreased, which actually led to the ruin of the entire industry of the Sumy region. Well, and as a result, there was a wave of layoffs, rising unemployment and social tension.
    1. +1
      27 July 2014 11: 48
      Y O D .. without comment ..
      http://thyro.info/v-ukraine-naschity-vaetsya-okolo-80-regionov-s-defitsitom-joda
      /
      1. +1
        27 July 2014 12: 07
        There is something to think about ...
        1. 0
          27 July 2014 17: 09
          Gorinich SU Today, 12:07 PM ↑
          There is something to think about ... "
          ..да давно уже подумали.. http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%99%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%84%D0%B8%D1
          %86%D0%B8%D1%82
      2. 0
        27 July 2014 19: 42
        In Crimea, why the deficit? The sea is nearby and around.
        1. 0
          27 July 2014 20: 27
          Kerzhak (1) Today, 19:42 ↑ Everything is clear with Crimea ..
          http://1info.net/stati-novosti-soobschenija/novosti/ukraina-mozhet-razvalitsja-n
          a-parts.html
          1. 11111mail.ru
            0
            27 July 2014 21: 13
            Quote: 222222
            Everything is clear with Crimea

            It's just the opposite, judging by your "map". Could "photoshop" the territory of Crimea. Thank God, the fourth month has passed since his return to the Russian Federation.
  36. 0
    27 July 2014 11: 27
    [media = http: //warfiles.ru/show-7734-2015-god-ukraina-grazhdanskaya-voyna.html]
  37. RUSLAT
    +2
    27 July 2014 12: 04
    In some "normal Western countries" there are laws such as - disagreement with the official policy, the term ...... - not the recognition of the Soviet occupation, the term ...... - the state in a prohibited party, the term ... .. disagreement with the official history of the state, accusation of separatism, deadline ..... passing exams for knowledge of the state language, while questions about history and culture that do not correspond to the true one, in case of failure to pass, dismissal and unemployment ... And there are hundreds of such laws, in normal Western countries ...
    1. +3
      27 July 2014 19: 44
      And these people fought for the abolition of the article "for anti-Soviet activity"? These are double standards.
    2. 0
      28 July 2014 09: 57
      eb.a ... th Baltic with Amersky condoms ... collided, fled!
  38. 0
    27 July 2014 12: 11
    Yes everything is correct. Good example!
  39. Russianin
    +2
    27 July 2014 12: 16
    On the night of July 23.07.2014, 22 at 30:00, the resuscitation team left for an urgent call to the area of ​​Snezhnoye, at 10:14 the brigade contacted and reported the execution of the reanimobile by the Ukrainian military. They reported that they had to hide from shelling and moved off the road into the field. After a communication session that lasted a minute, the connection was abruptly stopped, all the medical phones of the doctors disconnected. In the afternoon at 00:XNUMX there was information from the Ukrainian media about the seizure of doctors and volunteers: Vasiliev Aleksey Gennadievich, Radionova Liliya Vitalievna. Nikitin Victor Anatolyevich, Vergiyan Simon Rudikovich, Shaftner Lada Borisovna.

    The fate of doctors and volunteers is unknown, for all requests for information about the captured resuscitation brigade, Ukrainian officials do not give any explanations, do not provide photos and video confirmations of the resuscitation brigade being alive. This is a glaring fact of neglecting international humanitarian law and the rules of warfare. The government of the DPR demands the immediate release of the captured doctors and volunteers, since, according to international law, doctors are inviolable during wars and military operations!
    1. 0
      27 July 2014 14: 52
      the aforementioned physicians should be exchanged for military dill, which are treated in Russia.
    2. +1
      27 July 2014 19: 46
      In a normal European country, these laws do not apply.
      Damn, how much we learned about stolen over the past six months!
  40. Russianin
    +3
    27 July 2014 12: 32
    On July 26, soldiers of the "Oplot" unit destroyed the "Grad" system, a tank and three platoons of personnel of Ukrainian punitive forces. The representative of "Oplot" informed the DPR Committee of Social Communications about this.

    "In four days of our work, the military unit located in Avdiivka was put out of action. The barracks, the canteen and the old terminal were completely destroyed. At the request of our comrades-in-arms from the Vostok battalion, we helped them in the attack on the airport. The tower was destroyed. , three tanks. We also helped the Vostok and RPA forces out from under fire. We worked at Ukrainian checkpoints. For four days of intense fighting, the result is as follows: one hundred and thirty-one units of Ukrainian equipment were disabled, more than a thousand personnel were killed or wounded enemy "- he said.

    According to him, the Ukrainian military often use tactics of squeezing the forces of the DPR army into a ring.

    "Today, in order to prevent this, our group of mechanized brigade conducted a special operation, as a result of which the Grad system, one tank and about three platoons of enemy personnel were destroyed. After that, enemy artillery fired at our post. Operation Retribution is being prepared. you can find out all the consequences tomorrow ", - he summed up.
  41. +3
    27 July 2014 13: 38
    We value that we are a free country. Unlike Germany, France, and even more so small-poodles, to whom someone from behind a puddle indicates - what should they think about this or that issue.
    What does a European think is normal? Probably Peten's France ...
  42. -1
    27 July 2014 13: 39
    Delusional article.
    1. +1
      27 July 2014 14: 12
      Quote: provincial
      Delusional article.

      I mean, are we not going to be a normal western country or is it a pity?
      1. 0
        29 July 2014 12: 29
        All her life, Russia has been looking westward at w ... u and striving to give it a go. But you can’t do the opposite, let them look and imitate us, a7
  43. +1
    27 July 2014 14: 18
    MAYDAN- bargaining, a bazaar, or a place on it where fraudsters gather, to play dice, grain, toss, cards, whence a wish: talent for maidan!
    How EXACTLY spotted !!
  44. +2
    27 July 2014 14: 39
    Quickly we become Europeans, quickly we want to kill us ... in Kiev, quickly recognize New Russia. And quickly become normal Russia again! fellow
  45. -6
    27 July 2014 14: 44
    bomb Kiev is blasphemy. There are civilians and historical temples of Russia. We need a ground operation, and then the business of strategists.
    1. +4
      27 July 2014 17: 38
      Quote: 79512075984
      We need a ground operation, and then the business of strategists.

      Or maybe strategists still forward _
    2. 0
      28 July 2014 08: 33
      But bombing their other cities and destroying civilians is not blasphemy?
      1. 0
        28 July 2014 16: 29
        Quote: orisa87
        But bombing their other cities and destroying civilians is not blasphemy?

        Are you in agreement with this?
  46. wanderer
    0
    27 July 2014 15: 00
    Heading the Alliance for the Future of Novorossiya party, he would become Borodai's main rival in the struggle for top positions in the new state.


    I like this course of events !!!
    ___________________________________________________
    I congratulate everyone on the Baptism of Russia !!!
  47. +7
    27 July 2014 15: 07
    Russia is not hypocritical, does not flirt with everyone at once, but has its own special point of view, does not crawl on its belly and does not creep in front of the USA, unlike all of Europe

    In Geyrop, they are used to crawling on their belly and licking the ass of the United States - because it is so democratic hi
  48. 0
    27 July 2014 15: 32
    Yes, if it were a normal western country
  49. +2
    27 July 2014 15: 33
    Yes, all this is written with a pitchfork on the water! Only a fantasy, but a pity. It’s high time to end being patience and making world politics ourselves.
    1. +1
      27 July 2014 17: 57
      Quote: Show must go on
      It’s high time to end being patience and making world politics ourselves.

      This is curious, why the Yusovites are so hysterical? What is coming?
      Previously, at least they waved test tubes, but now they’re just saying one word, according to the principle of a child’s game _
      Black, white do not wear, “Yes” and “no” do not speak, “P” cannot be pronounced!
  50. 0
    27 July 2014 16: 02
    Well stupid !!!
  51. 0
    27 July 2014 17: 47
    Самая нормальная и дмократичная ЕВРОПЕЙСКАЯ страна - уса. Бомбить, бомбить и ещё раз бомбить.
  52. 0
    27 July 2014 17: 59
    Quote: DOMINO100
    and meanwhile the ukroarmiya almost took the miners! a vague future for Novorossia. but ... you have to wait, suddenly the miners will get up)))

    на четыре кости
  53. 0
    27 July 2014 17: 59
    На все 100% было бы так чувак, даже не сомневайся.
  54. +1
    27 July 2014 18: 11
    Quote: Lelek
    Will not get up. Money is more expensive. These guys just knock on the pavement with helmets a lot, but as far as business goes, "my hut is far away, and I didn't have time to hide the bacon." bully

    Не знаю как там НА СЛОВАХ, а ПО ФАКТУ ИМЕННО ТАК! А всё остальное отговорки с трусостью!
  55. +3
    27 July 2014 18: 25
    Если бы Россия была нормальной западной страной, она объявила бы спецоперацию по принуждению Украины к миру,

    Наверное так. Но если бы Россия была просто уважающей себя страной, она бы подавила укроповские батареи, а не эвакуировала хутора у границы под ноты МИДа, не строила бы из себя международноеправоуважающуюцелку, а признала ДНР и ЛНР , открыто оказывая действенную помощь.
  56. +1
    27 July 2014 20: 27
    Ненавижу поганую бендеровщину
  57. 0
    27 July 2014 21: 22
    а с каког такого перепугу, вообще россия должна относится к гейропе, это гейропа при хорошем поведении может относится к части россии, в связи со своей мелкомасштабностью
  58. Alexahof
    0
    27 July 2014 21: 23
    http://finance.zaimi4.ru/krediti/baykal-bank-ulan-ude-kredity.html байкал банк улан удэ кредиты
  59. +1
    27 July 2014 22: 04
    Россия будет нормальной западной страной через НИКОГДА laughing
  60. Mih
    0
    27 July 2014 22: 10
    Quote: Ramzaj99
    .Я был очень удивлен такое услышать....вот теперь тоже сижу и думаю....

    Ну да, все мы сильны задним умом. love
  61. Mih
    0
    27 July 2014 22: 14
    Quote: KUOLEMA
    Quote: DOMINO100
    and meanwhile the ukroarmiya almost took the miners! a vague future for Novorossia. but ... you have to wait, suddenly the miners will get up)))

    Вставят, если встанет. Если пиво кончиться, тогда да... А, впрочем, ху из ху. laughing
  62. +2
    27 July 2014 22: 46
    Была бы Россия нормальной западной страной...., то у нас бы женщины ходили бородатыми laughing
  63. 0
    27 July 2014 23: 03
    Слава Богам, что мы не нормальная европейская страна!Никогда не были (Почитайте того же Пушкина А.С.)И я надеюсь, никогда не будем!
  64. 0
    28 July 2014 01: 52
    Quote: Kerzhak
    The most normal country for ukrov is Ukraine, because they do not even imagine that it is possible to live differently.

    Для них(не для всех) самая нормальная страна -это сша,ну для некоторых евросоюз(если их можно считать страной)
  65. ser_boris
    0
    28 July 2014 04: 44
    Давайте спалим Белый дом. Пошлём спецназ, как мирных демонстрантов. Статистов? Ну, то-же купим. Им доллары нужней, чем нам. И они, вдруг, как-то странно себя поведут... Почему бы и нет? Бывало и в других странах, ведь. Всего и делов-то. И как насчёт демагогии? Ой, простите, "демократии"... Хунта доложила - освободили Крещатик, но проехать через Майдан - нельзя! Какой фейк!!! А, что до остальных территорий, так эта вражда - на десятки лет! Но, деятели, эти майданутые - канут в лето, к тому времени... Навсегда. Как? Что-то? Возможно? В этой? Стране? Это не страна - это территория! Достал ЛОХОТРОН!!!!!!!!
  66. 0
    28 July 2014 09: 03
    Да кто же позволит России быть равноправным государством? у нас и нефть и газ и территории которые США и зап. европа хотят поделить + славяне которые по определению, слишком свободолюбивый народ, который не будет ни под чьим правительством, и будут жить своим умом. таких сильными делать нельзя, а лучше уничтожить..... Но ничего, земля круглая, не получилось зайти с основного входа - обойдем.... -)
  67. qwe11
    0
    28 July 2014 11: 44
    Quote: Finches
    Twenty five again!

    Even the question of this European is no longer politically correct! What does it mean “if Russia were a normal country?” Yes, in general, the most normal country in the world arena! Russia is not hypocritical, does not flirt with everyone at once, but has its own special point of view, does not crawl on its belly and does not grovel in front of the United States, unlike the whole of Europe, it never passes off black as white and vice versa, and even disinterestedly and at the expense of its victims the Europeans come to your aid ...!

    The only negative that I see is the gentleness and generosity inherent only to really strong countries!
    And if you Europeans really wouldn’t already discuss what to do with Ukraine, and how to bite Russia more painfully in order to earn Uncle Sam’s baklava, you’d get used to seeing a new entity on the Google maps as part of Russia-the Ukrainian federal district!


    там же написано, если бы Россия была бы нормальной ЗАПАДНОЙ страной hi
  68. 0
    28 July 2014 12: 26
    ПОЭТОМУ МЫ И ЕСТЬ НОРМАЛЬНАЯ ВОСТОЧНАЯ ДЕРЖАВА-РОССИЯ!!!
  69. 0
    28 July 2014 13: 38
    Забавно, на зарубежом вы не услышите "украинской мовы". Недавно прилетел с Кипра, наблюдал три пары из Украины - из Харькова, из Одессы и из Винницы. Все говорят только на русском. И что еще забавнее, с явной неприязнью, у кого-то больше у кого-то меньше, относятся к русским. Парадокс однако laughing
  70. Heru-si-atet
    +1
    28 July 2014 16: 11
    Россия - это континент. И великая континентальная империя, во все периоды - РИ, СССР, РФ. Это и не даёт покоя шавкам. И российский ВПК, чтобы просто догнать который амерам нужно 20 лет НИОКРа и серии, и космос и непотребительские высокие технологии.
    Светское и, в хорошем смысле, вестернизированное государство. Взявшее у запада лучшее, не позволив пройти помоям. Сохранившая своё лучшее, и поучившая многому у Востока.
    Китай, Индия идут в кильватере российской политики. Как и "старая Европа" - Франция с Германией. Та же тётушка Ангелина вынуждена играть по российским правилам, экономика ЕС на РФ завязана, а тявкает дабы услужить США. Но Сраказя (который, кстати, попу Путина целовал после 888), Олланд и Меркель - явление временные. Скоро как при Шрёдере и Шираке пойдут курсом на евросуверенитет от США прежде всего.
    И если Саудиты, Израиль и Пакистан ещё не зачищены от ЯО или террористических баз (а заодно ракет не пожалеть на нефтяные терминалы Саудовки, чтоб быстрей ФРС удавился), Сракошвили не повесили, а хунтяев не напоили ботулином, то только потому, то "антидолларовая" коалиция и платёжная система ещё выстраивается.
    Дождутся на свою голову "Империя наносит ответный удар".
    Что самое смешное, как только Россия начинает во внешней политике вести себя как "западная держава", так визги и вопли: "Агрессия! Аннексия!"
    А у древних ук.ров был уникальный шанс, присоединиться к глобальному геополитическому пространству, за которым будущее. Они его про*рали. И страну откатили до уровня душманистана и сомали, с вечным хо.Хлопством у МВФ. Какждый сам выбирает и несёт ответственность.
  71. more
    +2
    28 July 2014 21: 28
    Тут на досуге сочинил на фотошопе, чтоб не заниматься писаниной.
  72. netwalker
    0
    29 July 2014 08: 55
    а что...? это идея..? Уважаемый автор а скинь-те идею господину Путину.. - я давно мечтал про дачу под Киевом! smile
  73. 0
    29 July 2014 08: 57
    Как хорошо, что мы не нормальная гейропейская страна
  74. 0
    29 July 2014 09: 57
    Мужики, я не понял - наш Сбербанк финансирует хунту? То есть мы помогаем ополченцам, а гос.банк - фашистам?

    http://politobzor.net/show-28716-greh-grefa-sberbank-rossii-pomogaet-ukrainskomu
    -military-promyshlennomu-kompleksu.html

    Может обращение, петицию какую-то составим против такого двурушничества?
  75. Nikitich
    0
    29 July 2014 14: 03
    http://www.vesti.ru/only_video.html?vid=611538
  76. 0
    29 July 2014 14: 11
    ВеликА Россия...,а может ВелИкая?
  77. 0
    29 July 2014 14: 31
    Я прошу всех участников форума быть сдержаннее в своих высказываниях относительно бездействия Донецких шахтеров. Они не остаются безучастными зрителями. Большинство из них уже воюет, либо записаны в ополчение. Но есть огромная проблема с оружием, даже самым простым стрелковым, поэтому их просто нечем вооружить. Проявите уважение к ребятам, которые сейчас жизни отдают не только за ДНР и ЛНР, но и за весь русский мир. Лучше помогите чем-нибудь.
  78. 0
    29 July 2014 14: 37
    Quote: zaboyschik
    скоро наци развернутся на Крым

    и ЧЁ!? Фото со Сталинградом 1942-1943 (зима) прикреплять на буду....!!!
  79. more
    0
    29 July 2014 16: 27
    Кто хочет поржать с настоящей страны загляните на http://censor.net.ua
    ЗООПАРК непуганных идиотов! Это моё личное мнение. Так зомбируют Украину.
  80. Eulogius
    0
    29 July 2014 17: 33
    НИКОГДА не прощу бандеровцам Одессу и Новороссию.
  81. Mih
    0
    30 July 2014 00: 10
    Цитата: Если бы Россия была нормальной западной страной, она объявила бы спецоперацию по принуждению Украины к миру, в рамках которой на протяжении нескольких месяцев бомбила бы украинские города, в первую очередь - Киев. Одной из первых целей стал бы киевский телецентр.
    Так мы не гейропа. А жаль, мне бесконечно жаль... love
    А как хороша ПСсаки!! Если она гореть не будет, так кто тогда развеет мрак? laughing
  82. Mih
    0
    30 July 2014 00: 15
    Цитата: maior
    Тут на досуге сочинил на фотошопе, чтоб не заниматься писаниной.


    Много свободного времени? Креативно!!!
  83. 0
    30 July 2014 00: 36
    Что-то у бандеров патриотизму поубавилось-то. Уже, наверно, по лесам от военкома скачут.

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