Sea fight

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Sea fightThe Caspian Sea remains one of the most problematic areas in the world. There are still sharp discussions on the topic: Lake Caspian or is it a sea? The line of passage of the sea border directly depends on this. It will depend on where the oil and gas fields turn out to depend on where the specified border will eventually pass.

In addition, the Caspian has the sharpest debate on the right of countries to build pipelines on the seabed. For example, Turkmenistan would like to build such a pipeline in order to sell gas to Europe, for example, through the Nabucco gas pipeline. However, Russia is against such a decision. Formally, Moscow refers to the vulnerable ecology of the sea. Actually, we are talking about the struggle for the gas monopoly in the European market. The appearance of large volumes of Turkmen gas in Europe would be unprofitable for Russia.

In addition, the Caspian is overshadowed by the still ongoing conflict over Iran’s nuclear program. A hypothetical possible variety of scenarios, including the military. In the latter case, the Caspian may even become a place of armed confrontation.

In general, the overall uncertainty of the situation forces the parties to be vigilant. All this led to the fact that in recent years a real naval arms race has unfolded in the Caspian. Moreover, their character does not at all correspond to the size of the lake and the very possibility of waging naval battles here.

Modern warfare at sea is conducted with the use of anti-ship missiles (RCC). This is the main thing weapon all modern fleets. Even torpedoes today play a smaller role, it is unlikely that a submarine will manage to get close to a torpedo shot at a modern ship, as it was during World War II. In addition, submarines can also use anti-ship missiles. These missiles can also be used from aircraft. Therefore, today the main task of a warship at sea is to see the launch of an anti-ship missile in time and try to shoot it down. For this purpose, air defense systems of the ship are used. And finally, the last defense argument is automatic small-caliber artillery complexes, which for a short period of time form a protective wall of flying projectiles from the side from which the rocket flies. But here it is important to see the rocket, from where it, in fact, flies. Therefore, detection tools are one of the most important conditions for the protection of the ship.

For example, in 1982, during the Falkland War, Argentines sank a number of British ships fleet with the help of French Exoset anti-ship missiles launched from the Mirage strike aircraft. Moreover, in some cases, the warheads of the missiles did not even explode. But the Exocet hit was enough to sink a modern ship like the Sheffield destroyer, and a number of other English ships.

Although rocket rocket discord. Much depends on the warhead delivered to the target and the speed of its approach. For example, during the tanker war in the Persian Gulf in the middle of the 1980-s, the Iranian and Iraqi Navy regularly attacked with anti-ship missiles "Exocet", "Harpoon", "Sea Killer" on tankers from different countries, but their real losses were only 3 percent. from all hits. In 1987, the Iraqi Mirage was hit by an American stark frigate with two Exochet missiles. The ship was then damaged, but did not sink.

In general, most of the RCC today is subsonic rockets that fly to a target at low altitude, relying on surprise. In the USSR, developed supersonic missiles, they are in service with the Russian Navy. This complex "Granit", "Mosquito." Russia is developing jointly with India, another Brasom supersonic complex. Supersonic rockets fly most of the way to the target at altitudes 15 – 20 km, and the final segment - already at supersonic speeds at a super-low altitude. The problem with them is that they are too large because of the need to carry a lot of fuel and they can be seen at a great distance. Here, they are capable of shooting down not only ship defense of a long range, but also fighter-interceptors.

In any case, PKR is the basis of modern naval weapons systems. When, after the collapse of the USSR, the Caspian flotilla was divided between the Caspian countries, primarily Azerbaijan and Russia, Baku had one missile boat project 205 with subsonic Termit radars, but the rocket launchers were dismantled. In Russia, the fleet had an experimental ekranoplan "Lun" with anti-ship missiles, but it turned out to be inoperable.

However, from the beginning of the 2000s, Russia began to deploy ships with anti-ship missiles in the Caspian. In 2003, the Tatarstan patrol of the 11661 "Gepard" project with the Uran missile on board, with a displacement of 2000 tons, was introduced into the Caspian flotilla. According to Western terminology, this is an URO (guided missile weapon) frigate. Nobody had anything like this on the Caspian. The X-35 subsonic anti-ship missiles of the Uran complex had a firing range of 130 km.

In 2012, the twin brother of "Tatarstan" from the 11661 project frigate URO "Dagestan" entered the flotilla. In addition, in the Astrakhan region is located Astrakhan coastal division "Redoubt" with subsonic cruise missiles П-35. Their range 300 km, which allows you to cover the entire northern waters of the Caspian Sea. Even in the flotilla four rocket boats with Termit missiles. In 2013, the flotilla also included two more small rocket ships of the 21631 project with the Caliber anti-ship missiles on board.

So, Russia has so many ships with RCC in the Caspian that they are capable of sinking a small fleet. The problem is that there is simply no such fleet in the Caspian, there is nobody to sink. Even if we ignore the idea that no one is going to fight with Russia, Russia still has no real opponents.

Azerbaijan has one patrol ship with a displacement of one thousand tons of large ships and there are no ships with anti-ship missiles at all. But in the 2012 year, it was reported that Azerbaijan, in the framework of a deal with Israel, had acquired the subsonic anti-ship missile "Gabriel". In May 2014 of the year, according to Russian media reports, Baku showed interest in acquiring the Russian Bal-E coastal defense complex with subsonic anti-ship missile X-35. In fact, it is the same "Uranus" that is in service with the "Tatarstan". Theoretically, all these missiles are needed by Baku to protect their oil development in the Caspian. Azerbaijan has disputes with Iran and Turkmenistan over the ownership of certain sites.

By the way, Turkmenistan was the first of the small Caspian countries to acquire its own RCC. In 2011, Russia delivered two Molniya missile boats of the 1241 project with a supersonic anti-ship missile system Moskit to Ashgabat. After that, Turkmenistan theoretically became the most powerful naval power in the Caspian Sea. Even Russia has no supersonic rockets here. True, these missiles are designed to strike large ships, there is simply no one to shoot at the Caspian. Well, not for the Russian "Tatarstan" or "Dagestan".

In turn, Iran in March 2013 launched the frigate Jamaran-2 with a displacement of 1500 tons and the Nur missile, which is a modification of the subsonic Chinese anti-ship missile system P-802, in the Caspian Sea. It is the largest ship of the Iranian fleet in the Caspian. The Iranians also have a number of missile boats with Chinese PRKs on board.

In this situation, Kazakhstan turned out to be the only country in the Caspian that does not have an RPC. In 2012, KADEX announced the signing of a protocol of intent on acquiring the famous French Exocset missiles. But whether the transaction was implemented is unknown. In 2012, a ship with a displacement of 250 tons, which was positioned as the first rocket ship of Kazakhstan, was launched at the Zenit plant. However, there is no information about its armament by one or another RCC. Judging by the available image of the ship "Kazakhstan", there are no missiles on board it. Wikipedia indicates the presence of the MLRS (salvo fire rocket system), that is, there are unguided rockets, like on some land "Grad".

So, whether we have PKR remains a big question. Another question is related to that, but do we need such anti-ship missiles, and if so, is it necessary to build ships for this? In principle, if everyone already has PKR in the Caspian, then we should have a few, at least for demonstration. Moreover, theoretically, we should be able to try to protect oil-producing facilities in our Caspian zone. It is clear that Russia will cover us in case of anything, but you yourself also need to have something in stock.

If we try to answer the question of whether we need a large ship with anti-ship missiles, this is a difficult question. We will not be able to build it, as the Iranians did, we will have to buy from Russia, as the Turkmen did. But you can get along with coastal complexes, as the Azerbaijanis are going to do, or by forces aviation. Subsonic cruise missiles (RCCs) may well be used from aircraft, as demonstrated by the experience of the Falkland Islands war and battles in the Persian Gulf. That is, you need to have a base of air forces, preferably in the depths of the territory, from where aircraft with anti-ship missiles on board could deliver their strikes against a potential aggressor at sea. In this case, carrier aircraft will be needed, as well as choosing the appropriate type of subsonic anti-ship missiles.

The paradox of the modern naval situation in the Caspian is that there are practically no goals for powerful anti-ship missiles. Only Russia and Iran have big ships, all the rest have only boats and small ships. Accordingly, any use of anti-ship missiles in the Caspian basin is the use of a guarded club against a sparrow.
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  1. waisson
    +51
    27 July 2014 05: 13
    --------------- drinks drinks drinks soldier soldier soldier ------------
    1. +17
      27 July 2014 05: 24
      I press all the crab!
      1. +16
        27 July 2014 11: 33
        Congratulations to all on a holiday!
    2. +15
      27 July 2014 08: 45
      I join in the congratulations. Happy navy holiday.
      According to the article, the clarification - "Sheffield" was drowned by the "Exoset" anti-ship missile system, not from the "Mirages", but by Endart A4.
      1. +6
        27 July 2014 15: 12
        Quote: vrach
        not with "Mirages", but Endartov A4


        From Super Etandard (Super Étendard)
    3. +9
      27 July 2014 09: 07
      Happy holiday to all sailors! The fact that our Navy dominates the Caspian is encouraging. May it always be.
      1. +9
        27 July 2014 10: 52
        1. In 1696 Peter the Great brought 29 ships (including 23 rowing galleys) and 1300 plows from Voronezh along the Don to Azov. Took Azov. Russia gained control over the Azov Sea and access to the Black Sea. The Boyar Duma decided: "There will be a fleet." This date is considered the birthday of the Russian Navy.
        2. Gangut. 1714. During a three-hour strenuous battle, the Russians captured all the Swedish ships together with Commander Rear Admiral Erenscheld. There were no Russian losses in ships; the Gangut battle was the first major victory of the Russian fleet at sea.
        3. Chesma. 1770. Russian squadron under the command of Count Orlov and adm. Spiridova locked the Turks in Chesme Bay. Of the 71 Turkish ships, only one battleship and 5 galleys survived and were captured by the Russians. The Russian fleet had no losses in ships.
        4. Ochakov. 17 July 1788. The Russian rowing flotilla, with the support of the Paul-Jones sailing squadron of limans (3 battleships, 5 frigates, 6 small vessels), attacked the Turkish fleet at Ochakov, consisting of 10 battleships, 6 frigates and 44 galleys and other ships. As a result of a stubborn battle, the Turkish fleet lost two 64 cannon ships (one of them was Kapudan Pasha himself) and three small ships. In addition, one 54 gun ship was captured.
        5. The battle at the island of Fidonisi 3 July 1788 Sevastopol squadron under the command of Rear Admiral MA Voinovich as part of 2's 66-gun battleships 8-40 guns and 24 small ships against the Turkish squadron as part of 17 battleships, including five 80-gun, 8 frigates and up to 20 small ships. In this first victory of the Black Sea Fleet over significant enemy forces, the combat abilities of Fedor Fedorovich Ushakov were shown with special brilliance.
        6. The battle at the Kerch Strait on July 8 1790 Squadron F.F. Ushakova as part of 10 ships and 17 small vessels against the Turkish squadron of Kapudan Pasha Hussein, consisting of 54 pennants (10 ships, including four of "excellent size", 8 frigates and 36 bombardment and small vessels - in total over 1100 guns). The landing of the Turkish landing in the Crimea was disrupted.
        7. Battle of Tendra Island 28 – 29 August 1790 Propulsion Squadron F.F. Ushakova as part of the 10 battleships and 20 auxiliary ships against the Turkish fleet (14 battleships, 6 frigates, 23 auxiliary ships). After a two-hour fierce battle, unable to withstand the fire, the Turkish ships fled.
        8. The battle at Cape Kaliakria 31 July 1791 Sevastopol squadron under the command of F.F. Ushakova, consisting of 16 battleships, 2 bombers and 19 small ships, against the Turkish squadron under the command of the Kapudan Pasha Hussein, consisting of 18 ships, 10 large and 7 small frigates and 43 small vessels. The fierce battle, which lasted more than three hours, ended in the complete defeat of the Turks.
        9. Sinop. 18 November 1853 Russian Black Sea Fleet Adm. Nakhimov consisted of 14 battleships, 6 frigates, 4 corvettes, 12 brigs. The Turkish fleet consisted of 6 battleships, 10 frigates, 10 corvettes and brigs under the cover of 6 coastal batteries. In addition, the Turks had 6 wheeled armed steamboats. In the Sinop battle, glorifying the Russian sailors, 13 ships of the Turkish squadron were destroyed.
        10. The Russian Navy reached its maximum power by the middle of the 80, thanks to the 30 years of tireless efforts by the Commander-in-Chief of the Navy, Sergei Georgievich Gorshkov (1910-1988). By that time, the Soviet Navy had more than 3000 submarines and surface ships, not much inferior to the US Navy.
        11. In n.v. as a result of "optimization" and the reduction of the fleet by more than two times, the Russian Navy in the Baltic is 2 times less than the Swedish fleet, 2 times less than the Finnish one, 4 times less than the German one; on the Black Sea - Turkish by 3 times; the US Navy - 20 times, the British Navy - 7 times, the French Navy - 6 times.

        Giant Thoughts: The fact that our Navy dominates the Caspian is encouraging. May it always be. HOORAY!
        1. +9
          27 July 2014 12: 02
          For the sake of objectivity, I want to note that our fleet has passed the minimum point of decline, and now the buildup of forces is beginning.
          The phrase amused that our Baltic fleet was 20 times inferior to the American fleet: how was it believed? And what is the significance of the power of the Baltic fleet if everything in the Baltic region is shot through by RCCs of coastal and other complexes and the fleet, as such, it performs only the anti-submarine function and the support function of the ground forces?
        2. avg
          +4
          27 July 2014 13: 37
          (For Shveps)
          Statistics are generally insidious, and golem statistics are doubly. By her, by the way, our Navy is now the second in the world.
    4. 0
      27 July 2014 22: 33
      Yes, and to hell with it, but we are sure that our Caspian.
  2. +5
    27 July 2014 05: 19
    "The paradox of the modern naval situation in the Caspian is that there are practically no targets for powerful anti-ship missiles. Only Russia and Iran have large ships, all the rest have only boats and small ships. Accordingly, any use of anti-ship missiles in the Caspian basin is a guided club against a sparrow "No, but that doesn't mean that it won't. And you have to be ready for everything.
    1. +10
      27 July 2014 05: 34
      For good, you just need to agree on the maximum displacement of warships, it’s not very difficult, everyone except Azerbaijan is on the same side of the global confrontation.
      1. +4
        27 July 2014 11: 46
        Quote: Canep
        For good, you just need to agree on the maximum displacement of warships, it’s not very difficult, everyone except Azerbaijan is on the same side of the global confrontation.

        Ayzers are not warriors, Armenians kicked their ass in Karabakh. They are from the "buy-sell" tribe. fellow
    2. avt
      +6
      27 July 2014 08: 25
      Quote: vjatsergey
      "The paradox of the current naval situation in the Caspian Sea is that there are practically no targets for powerful anti-ship missiles. Only Russia and Iran have large ships, all the rest have only boats and small ships. Accordingly, any use of anti-ship missiles in the Caspian basin is an application a guided club against a sparrow "

      laughing Yes . It also caught my eye. Another optimizer was found - to reduce our fleet. Nothing, let them get used to it. Again, if necessary, the Caspian Sea can strengthen both the Black Sea Fleet and the Baltic Fleet, and even the Northern Fleet. bully And there, along the Northern Sea Route and to the Pacific Fleet at your fingertips. So wait for the aircraft carrier in the Caspian Sea, submarines in Grazhdanskaya with destroyers already drove there laughing ! ,, And even though I'm greedy, but from the bottom of my heart! "
      1. +2
        27 July 2014 10: 26
        Here, here - anyway, being in a "surplus" is much more pleasant than in a "deficit". They are worried that there are no goals ...
      2. Steel loli
        +1
        28 July 2014 01: 22
        Actually, an article about the Kazakh fleet in the Caspian.
    3. +5
      27 July 2014 08: 31
      Quote: vjatsergey
      "And you have to be ready for everything.

      No ships?! Oh well, we’ll shoot at coastal targets!
    4. +9
      27 July 2014 10: 50
      Quote: vjatsergey
      “The paradox of the current naval situation in the Caspian Sea is that there are practically no targets for powerful anti-ship missiles.

      This is an erroneous view of the author preparing for the past wars. He is considering the concept "Fleet versus Fleet", the YuSers have long gone to the next stage, "Fleet versus Coast" (we have a combination of both doctrines). Everyone is preparing for level 6 wars, where the main object of influence will be the enemy's economy in a non-contact (preferably) execution. Therefore, oil production areas with their rigs and platforms will definitely be the targets for the Caspian GCC hectares. But the author does not notice this. It's a pity.
    5. +10
      27 July 2014 10: 56
      "The paradox of the modern naval situation in the Caspian is that there are practically no targets for powerful anti-ship missiles. Only Russia and Iran have large ships, all the rest have only boats and small ships. Accordingly, any use of anti-ship missiles in the Caspian basin is a guided club against a sparrow "No, but that doesn't mean that it won't. And you have to be ready for everything.

      It is my deep conviction that these "excess" capacities of the anti-ship missiles were built up in the Caspian in order to strengthen the Black Sea grouping. Since these are ships of the river-sea class in the shortest possible time can be transferred to the Black Sea Fleet through inland waters, do not forget that Ukraine put a spoke in our wheels in terms of the number and renewal of the Black Sea grouping, and this is one of the ways out for strengthening. It's just that Novoross was not ready to accept the fleet due to the lack of infrastructure, and Sevastopol was closed to new ships, now everything has changed, and globally.
    6. +3
      27 July 2014 19: 59
      Quote: vjatsergey
      "The paradox of the modern naval situation in the Caspian is that there are practically no targets for powerful anti-ship missiles. Only Russia and Iran have large ships, all the rest have only boats and small ships. Accordingly, any use of anti-ship missiles in the Caspian basin is a guided club against a sparrow "No, but that doesn't mean that it won't. And you have to be ready for everything.

      Yes, but if this club hits the sparrow, then even feathers will not remain. =)
      So let this club be at hand, just in case.
  3. +10
    27 July 2014 05: 46
    Russia would not benefit from the appearance of large volumes of Turkmen gas in Europe.

    Is the emergence of "Slavic" shale gas beneficial for Russia? So why are we sitting, who are we waiting for? laughing
    1. +2
      27 July 2014 06: 10
      It seems that in Slavyansk, Ukrainians quickly decided to cut off and clean the mattress's grandmothers, as if the movement had begun, but they still understand the war is going on and Slavyansk is not yet known whether he will be ukropovsky? And it seems like the work is in full swing, it's all muddy ...
      1. +8
        27 July 2014 08: 41
        Already they set up towers for the production of shale gas, and Slavyansk are not going to restore it. They do not need him.
        Happy Navy Day. drinks
      2. +3
        27 July 2014 08: 44
        They write that it is unprofitable to extract shale gas in Ukraine. It turns out expensive. So that IMHO just "master the investment" and soon this case will be closed.
        1. +6
          27 July 2014 09: 33
          Shale ukrogaz is an ordinary "scarecrow" for Russia.
          And experts predict: first, large investments, then large losses. Yes, figs with them.

          The main thing today is Happy Holiday!
          Today it's not a sin and "waddling" (in moderation, of course)
        2. +3
          27 July 2014 11: 22
          Quote: enot73
          So that IMHO will simply "master the investment" and soon this case will be closed.

          Although not winter, so bite! (C)
          Today's criminal regime will crawl out of its skin, but it will “prove to the whole world” that the Square can do without Moscow gas. Chernozems will ditch, they will go bankrupt with the sale - but in spite of Moscow - they will!
          1. +2
            27 July 2014 14: 48
            The production of shale gas is terrible for Russia in that the sources of drinking water are irretrievably destroyed, large aquifers are poisoned. And the land border is not an obstacle for poisoned water.
  4. +6
    27 July 2014 06: 36
    Congratulations to all on the Day of the Russian Navy, the seventy-fifth time the Fleet will celebrate its holiday, between the first ship Orel, built under Alexei Mikhailovich and modern beauties lies a path fanned by many victorious battles, I wish our Fleet that the entire world ocean be our inland sea ! And in the Caspian, the paradox is that the former Soviet republics are arming themselves against each other with ships with anti-ship missiles.
    1. +1
      27 July 2014 07: 01
      Happy holiday !!! Seven feet under the keel!!! Well, with the armament in the Caspian, specialists FOR a long time I think have decided ... !!! We are waiting for new replenishment on the fleet !!!
  5. +4
    27 July 2014 07: 52
    judging by the photo, our all fooled-see missile cruiser dragged to the Caspian-maybe even disguised as a tugboat wassat and if it’s surreptitious, then everyone who is related to the fleet-MEN-WITH YOUR HOLIDAY drinks !
  6. +1
    27 July 2014 07: 59
    The Caspian is our inland sea and there are no equal to us .. yes and never will be .. soldier
  7. +4
    27 July 2014 08: 12
    And why in the photo is the cruiser of project 1164, if we are talking about the Caspian. There are no such ships in the Caspian.
  8. +4
    27 July 2014 08: 20
    Want to ruin a small country - give her a cruiser! Well, why do Kazakhs need modern missile weapons? Matches for children are not toys!
    1. +1
      27 July 2014 09: 36
      And after all - why do Kazakhs need such a "box"?
      Who are you going to fight with? The northeast of the Caspian is needed only by Kazakhstan.
    2. +1
      27 July 2014 09: 40
      Not negative, but against such an assessment of our strategic ally. Kazakhstan plays a significant role on our southern borders, and their Navy should be in order.
      1. +3
        27 July 2014 11: 29
        Quote: RusDV
        Kazakhstan plays a significant role on our southern borders, and their Navy should be in order.

        I also do not minus. But I would like to note: Kazakhs need to cuddle closer to Mother Russia, and not show off an independent course and role, then, you look, and you will not need to spend money on ships. And so the author is right in something: our aviation will dominate the Caspian (I hope). Results - Etandar - Sheffield.
  9. sanek0207
    +2
    27 July 2014 09: 29
    Happy Russian Navy Day you guys! Seven feet under the keel for you and in civilian life! Happiness and HEALTH to you and your families!
    1. +1
      27 July 2014 12: 26
      Quote: sanek0207
      Happy Russian Navy Day you guys! Seven feet under the keel for you and in civilian life! Happiness and HEALTH to you and your families!

      ALL WITH A HOLIDAY. Dad served at the BSF. HOORAY!
  10. +5
    27 July 2014 09: 36
    What is this article for? The first phrase "The Caspian Sea remains one of the most problematic areas in the world."
    The last phrase "The paradox of the modern naval situation in the Caspian Sea is that there are practically no targets for powerful anti-ship missiles."

    Does the author even read what he wrote? Or, according to the joke, "Chukchi is not a reader, Chukchi is a writer"?

    The paradox is that there are countries in the Caspian that do not want to fight. And no "Iranian nuclear program hangs over the Caspian." The article is a minus because it is a pure provocation. There are various ships, fleets, coastal infrastructure, and more. But there is no "problem territory". First, the situation is aggravated by such articles, then mountains of weapons are brought in, and then they begin to wonder why the situation has gotten out of control.

    Article minus. Big and fat.
    1. +3
      27 July 2014 11: 34
      Quote: Bakht
      But there is no "problem territory".

      You are not quite right. There is a shelf partition problem. We wisely concluded bilateral agreements with neighboring states on borders, which Azerbaijan, Iran and others did not.
      So, under certain conditions, with the filing of the good Yankees, anything can happen.
      1. 0
        27 July 2014 12: 01
        With whom have you entered into bilateral agreements? Bilateral means two sides. So you wisely concluded a partition agreement with Azerbaijan. Turkmenistan and Iran do not sign such treaties.

        There is a demarcation problem. For example, the main problem between Iran and ALL other countries is that Iran wants 20%, which is absolutely unacceptable for Russia too. For this reason, we cannot develop gas-rich southern regions.

        There is a problem with Turkmenistan on the Kapaz (Sardar) field. In 2003, Azerbaijan was unable to conduct reconnaissance there, because Turkmenistan was against it. Last year, the Russian research vessel "Ak.Nemchinov" conducted exploration in this area. Azerbaijan could well disrupt the work by peaceful means, but they decided not to heat up the situation.

        So bilateral agreements can be concluded. But the neighbors do not want to. But all the same, this does not mean that the Caspian is a hot (or potentially hot) spot on the planet. Such articles can make her such.
  11. +4
    27 July 2014 09: 43
    In the Caspian region, you need to keep abreast, there is relatively calm, but the pindo ... they are already sending their emissaries to Turkmenistan and Azerbaijan, Iran quietly generally considers the Caspian as its patrimony! Therefore, only the presence of a combat-ready and modern Caspian flotilla, plus the firm position of our leadership that the Caspian is practically the Russian sea, is a guarantee of stability in this region!
    All crusts must use our ally - Kazakhstan!

    Separately, Caspian sailors on the occasion of the Navy!
    1. +3
      27 July 2014 10: 49
      Today, on the Day of the Navy of Russia, the Caspian Flotilla will include two new small missile ships of Project 21631 Buyan-M: Grad Sviyazhsk and Uglich. Ships have already passed state tests and are in Astrakhan.

      It is planned that the third RTO of this project - "Great Ustyug" - will be accepted into the Caspian flotilla in December 2014.
      1. +1
        27 July 2014 12: 01
        This is good news!
        And there is nothing to be afraid to show strength!
        What are some major exercises, there is the Caspian 2014, with the use of bridgeheads in Kazakhstan, the landing of sea and airborne assault forces! With the invitation of the military from all the Caspian countries, let them look!
  12. +3
    27 July 2014 09: 46
    A lot of things connected me up to the 90s with the Caspian Sea. A strong flotilla. WITH THE HOLIDAY OF THE COMRADE OF KRASNOFLOTSA! drinks
    LADY KEEP THE ARMY AND Navy OF RUSSIA!
  13. the handsome
    +2
    27 July 2014 09: 49
    Super Etandar, not Mirage.
  14. +1
    27 July 2014 09: 56
    With all my heart I congratulate all those involved in the Navy Day.
  15. +1
    27 July 2014 10: 23
    Happy Mareman Day !!!!! Today, at least drink everything but do not disgrace the Fleet good drinks
  16. +1
    27 July 2014 10: 59
    The paradox of the modern naval situation in the Caspian is that there are practically no goals for powerful anti-ship missiles. Only Russia and Iran have big ships, all the rest have only boats and small ships. Accordingly, any use of anti-ship missiles in the Caspian basin is the use of a guarded club against a sparrow.


    RCCs are also needed in order to destroy enemy ships of any class with distances beyond their reach. As they say well to those who have a dagger and woe to those who do not have it at the right time.
  17. KAVTORANG -II
    +3
    27 July 2014 11: 09
    For example, in 1982, during the Falkland War, Argentines sank a number of ships of the British fleet with the help of the French Exoset anti-ship missiles launched from the Mirage strike aircraft.
    Article minus. Took on tug - do not say that not a dozen. Does not know the basis - wrong conclusions. Missile systems and coastal aviation have changed dramatically over 32 years.
  18. +2
    27 July 2014 11: 48
    All the day of the Russian Navy! Sava of Russia!
  19. +2
    27 July 2014 12: 33
    SPECIAL CONGRATULATIONS TO VETERANS! LONG YEARS, HEALTH AND HAPPINESS.
  20. 52
    +2
    27 July 2014 13: 30
    Happy Navy Day! ALL!
    “For example, in 1982, during the Falklands War, the Argentines sank a number of British ships with the help of French Exocet anti-ship missiles launched from the Mirage strike aircraft. In some cases, the missile warheads did not even explode. enough to sink such a modern ship as the destroyer Sheffield and a number of other British ships "
    It is necessary to read the story, superEstandar is similar to the Mirage, like the Phantom to the Tu-104. And who cares about the presence of a powerful Caspian grouping in our Fleet? Stop it, damn it burnt, we have reduced it! And if the defense of the Motherland demands, then now we will not only increase the number of the group, but "and, if necessary, we will fill it with Armenian cognac!"
  21. +2
    27 July 2014 13: 30
    Quote: Canep
    For good, you just need to agree on the maximum displacement of warships, it’s not very difficult, everyone except Azerbaijan is on the same side of the global confrontation.

    Azeris on their side must be pulled up, there is every reason for this.
    Firstly, the Islamists, which the States are around, are simply unacceptable to the Azerbaijani elite in any form. During the first and second Chechen wide corridors, Wahhabis served Georgia, but not Azerbaijan.
    Secondly, being under the possibility of anti-Iranian action by "progressive countries" for many years, Azerbaijan will be the main road for about 30 million refugees, both ethnic Azeris and other nationalities, which will be akin to a flood.
    Third, playing the role of a springboard for the US attack on Iran is a thankless task, both for Azerbaijan and Georgia. As life shows, the Americans will tinker, break all the pots and leave, but the "grateful" neighboring Iran will remain. And he will remember for centuries.
    Fourthly, it is still more logical for Azerbaijan to be in a pool of oil and gas producing states, and not consumers — the EU, the States, etc. Interests are more congruent by and large, if you do not chase momentary projects. And the settled peaceful Caspian is a serious saving for all countries of its coast.
    Problems: the traditional British orientation of the Azerbaijani elites (although Aliyev is on his mind), and, of course, Karabakh, when each side cannot fundamentally move away from its positions in this region, and both have some wishes and claims to Russia in this plan. Turkey would certainly like to see Azerbaijan in the orbit of its Great Turkic policy, which, however, is strongly contrary to the interests of NATO, the United States and Israel.
    1. +3
      27 July 2014 16: 40
      Quote: faterdom

      I read, took note.
      Who said that Azerbaijan is on the other side? I would say that Azerbaijan is completely aloof. And the worst thing that can happen is to take sides. As Putin said just the other day - we are not in any blocks and most importantly we are not trying to enter any block. It is said about Russia, but it fully applies to Azerbaijan. The phrase that Azerbaijan on someone’s side is purely a propaganda stamp that leads to false conclusions.
      Which refugees can come to Azerbaijan? No Azerbaijani leadership will open its borders to the Sunni orthodox. It will be akin to a religious war.
      Thirdly, Azerbaijan is no one's springboard. The public flogging of the US ambassador a couple of months ago and the closure of the American Institute for the Development of Democracy is not an adequate measure? Overlapping financial flows to various NGOs. It is not in Russia, it is happening in Azerbaijan. Plus, the other day it was decided to close 11 Turkish lyceums in Azerbaijan.
      Fourth. Quite incomprehensible remark about the pool of oil producing and consuming countries. Elementary economic literacy tells me that when I buy potatoes at the bazaar, both the seller and the buyer are in the same process. When Saudi Arabia and Russia sell oil, this does not mean at all that they are in the same "pool". And they are unlikely to be allies.
      And finally. Erroneous assumptions led to an erroneous conclusion. Azerbaijan is trying to pursue a distance policy and equal relations with its neighbors.
  22. Andrew 58
    +3
    27 July 2014 14: 00
    Happy Holiday, moreman! Seven feet under the keel!
    Glory to the Navy!
  23. +1
    27 July 2014 18: 46
    I hesitate about the article. The destroyer Sheffield was not sunk, but was knocked out, disabled. Otherwise, he would not have come to St. Petersburg on a visit in June 2005, I then walked around it. Once again, on the occasion, comrades admirals, officers, midshipmen, foremen and sailors!
    1. +1
      27 July 2014 19: 26
      Quote: resh
      Didn't sink the destroyer Sheffield


      Drowned. Google to the rescue.

      Quote: resh
      I then walked on it


      You walked on a Sheffield type destroyer.
  24. katalonec. 2014
    +1
    27 July 2014 19: 05
    I join, I heartily congratulate the sailors, and the ships, the ships will be.
  25. 0
    27 July 2014 20: 09
    I join, on the occasion of the sacraments)) Caspian, 10 workshop fellow
  26. 0
    28 July 2014 10: 31
    Friends!!! all with the past Fleet Day !!! I hope EVERYONE has noticed how it should be))))) Although this morning I was driving, I saw a couple of such subchiks, it seems like we walked all night))))

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