Ukrainian counterintelligence lies to the whole world about the Russian “Bukakh”, and the US State Department continues to reiterate the involvement of the Russian Federation in the death of “Boeing”

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The head of the SBU counterintelligence department, Vitaliy Naida, lied on the air of the American channel "CNN", saying that Russia had removed from the territory of Ukraine the air defense missile system "Buk", which had allegedly been handed over to the militias, the TV channel reports. RT.



Naida showed a photo of the complex to the correspondent and explained that the photo was taken during the removal of the missile system from Ukraine. In his opinion, the Russians want to "hide" military equipment.

Ukrainian counterintelligence lies to the whole world about the Russian “Bukakh”, and the US State Department continues to reiterate the involvement of the Russian Federation in the death of “Boeing”


RT reminds that the photographs with which the SBU illustrates the "removal" of the air defense missile system were taken in March. The message about their removal appeared on the agency's website on July 19. It, in particular, said that "the Russian side gave instructions to the" terrorists "to take out all Buk launchers from Ukraine".

However, Internet users have noticed a catch: one of the photos is a screenshot of a video filmed in March 2014.

“On July 18 at XNUMX am in the Luhansk region two tractors crossed the border with Russia, each carrying a Buk-M launcher. At four in the morning on the same day, three more tractors crossed the state border - one platform was empty, on the other there was a launcher with four missiles, and on the last was a combat vehicle, presumably with a control module "
was approved on the SBU website.

All of these, if I may say so, materials are presented by the security forces as indisputable evidence of Russia's guilt in the Boeing plane crash.

Official Washington is known to adhere to the same version. On July 23, US State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf said at a briefing:
“We have yet to find out who pressed the button. We believe that the militias who fired the missile could not have done so without the help of Russia. The militias who we are firmly convinced fired the rocket would not have been able to operate, train and arm themselves without support. ”


In a previous briefing, Harf said that the militia shot down the Boeing, most likely by mistake. At the same time, she noted that the State Department has no information about the involvement in the tragedy of Russia.

She also rejected the version that the Boeing hit an air-to-air missile.

“The Russians said that the Ukrainian Su-25 could shoot down the airliner with an air-to-air missile. We believe that such an attack is not possible. "
said a spokesman for the State Department.
And she continued:
“Photos from the crash site show damage consistent with the damage pattern of the surface-to-air missile. It doesn't fit, it doesn't fit the damage pattern that we might see from an air-to-air missile, as the Russians claim. ”


There was another version published by the Los Angeles Times. The publication, referring to American intelligence, writes: “The US intelligence services were unable to determine the nationality or identity of the crew that launched the missile. It is possible that the SA-11 (western designation for Buk) was launched by a defector from the Ukrainian army who was trained to use similar systems, officials said.

On Tuesday, July 22, Russia passed the data on the catastrophe that the Ministry of Defense had to the European Union. But the reaction came only from the United States and was predictable: all information was questioned. However, the American side did not provide any other facts shedding light on the tragedy.

Permanent Representative of the Russian Federation to the EU Vladimir Chizhov said in this regard:
“This, of course, is their right. But if they are in doubt, they would have to show their evidence, which they have not yet done. I will add that never in such situations do the Americans present factual evidence, citing that this is intelligence information, that it can compromise their sources, etc. "


As a reminder, Malaysian Airlines' Boeing 777 crashed on July 17 in the DPR near the town of Snezhnoye. All people on board (298 people) were killed.
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  1. +33
    24 July 2014 17: 22
    In Donetsk itself, in the morning, clashes continued in the suburbs. The junta cannot particularly advance, therefore, encountering resistance, it proceeds to shelling, along the way probing the defense of the militia with tank armored groups of 3-4 tanks, as well as the actions of the DRG. A more serious pressure is hampered by the low quality of the infantry and the lack of reserves, which are torn apart in other directions, without which it would be an obvious gamble to enter urban battles.

    The battles are taking place in the area of ​​Peskov and Marinka. The junta has no serious progress. The militias continue to fire at the Donetsk airport.

    [16:01:23] Technomag: 24.07.14. A message from Lyashko's Facebook.

    Battalion "Donbass" got surrounded on the outskirts of Donetsk. The soldiers were ambushed by militants in the western part of the city. "

    1. +56
      24 July 2014 17: 30
      The militias are reporting this.
      Today, near the Luhansk airport, Novorossiya fighters destroyed the commander of an anti-aircraft missile platoon of punitive forces - Vladimir Chernous.


      And this figure ran back.
      Yesterday fighters of Novorossiya near Amvrosievka killed the head of the Gorodenkovsky (Ivano-Frankivsk region) regional branch of the Right Sector organized crime group - Yuri Dutchak (Schumacher).
      1. +34
        24 July 2014 17: 37
        Naida showed a photo of the complex to the correspondent and explained that the photo was taken during the removal of the missile system from Ukraine. In his opinion, the Russians want to "hide" military equipment.
        Duc, he is Russia alone, the last hope, so you have to drag him and "hide" here and there ... laughing
        1. +47
          24 July 2014 17: 53
          Quote: Oleg Sobol
          Duc, he is Russia alone, the last hope, so you have to drag him and "hide" here and there ...
          1. +16
            24 July 2014 19: 30
            The world through the eyes of Psaki ...
        2. +19
          24 July 2014 17: 55
          Naida

          A friend had a dog named Naida! She was smart, unlike dill - dogs! laughing
          1. s1н7т
            +4
            24 July 2014 21: 09
            Dill is ki, and a dog is a friend of man. Don't insult our friends!
        3. +3
          24 July 2014 17: 57
          They lie and do not blush that the mattress makers, that their puppets are Ukrainian fascists.
          1. +5
            24 July 2014 18: 18
            Hmm ... What a surprise ... The policy of the States is entirely based on LIES !!! And they find the same liars as vassals !!! But what is the strength? IN TRUE !!! And the collapse of the Natsiks is inevitable !!!
        4. +4
          24 July 2014 19: 52
          Ukraine does not have a security service and there is no counterintelligence service, so the CIA press services in Ukraine are simply called (there are no other options).
      2. +33
        24 July 2014 17: 52
        Quote: Sith Lord
        Yesterday fighters of Novorossiya near Amvrosievka killed the head of the Gorodenkovsky (Ivano-Frankivsk region) regional branch of the Right Sector organized crime group - Yuri Dutchak (Schumacher).
      3. +3
        24 July 2014 17: 53
        The road is there for them!
      4. +9
        24 July 2014 18: 35
        the situation in Donbass, in the zone of battles with the fascist junta ...

        13-45, Strelkov answered the question of how things are with the surrounded group of the junta:
        While they sit and wait for them to be unblocked. They are bad not only with food and drinking water, but also with ammunition. I don't think they will wait - our forces have thrown back the enemy strike group assembled for this in Grigorovo and are "finishing off" the "Marinovka" terminal.
        13-52, Destroyed equipment of the 79th separate airmobile brigade in the "Yuzhny boiler". Most of the equipment from the 79th separate airmobile brigade of the Nikolaev paratroopers located on the previously occupied "skyscraper" near Marinovka (DPR) on the border with Russia, after a week of shelling by the militias with the Grad multiple launch rocket systems, fell into disrepair: burned-out tanks, BMP, " Urals ".
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        Most of the equipment from the 79th separate airmobile brigade of the Nikolaev paratroopers located on the previously occupied "skyscraper" near Marinovka (DPR) on the border with Russia, after a week of shelling by the militias with the Grad multiple launch rocket systems, fell into disrepair: burned-out tanks, BMP, " Urals "


        destroyed armored vehicles of the fascists !!!! "trifle" -And it's nice ...



        here on the vidio link of the debacle:http://cassad.net/tv/embed/539/
        1. +7
          24 July 2014 18: 45
          Ukrainian counterintelligence lies

          Where did the counterintelligence get from the dill ???? SBU and then, led by a moron fool


          15-25, Shelling of positions of the Ukrainian army with artillery of the DPR militias. At the end of the video, a panicked punisher (and also a victim of propaganda propaganda) tries to pass off the defeat of his positions by the militias as an alleged attack by the Russian army.


          everywhere they see Russians, but sssat ...
          1. +5
            24 July 2014 19: 15
            news ... lightning ...

            Luhansk Republic announced the mobilization of the population
            24.07.2014 - 18: 56
            The proclaimed Luhansk People's Republic is mobilizing the population. This is reported by RIA Novosti, referring to the appeal of the head of the republic Valery Bolotov, published on the official website of the LPR.

            “We are carrying out a full mobilization of the population to strengthen the army. All who can hold weapons in their hands, we urge to join the ranks of the LPR army,” Bolotov said in his address.

            On the eve of the President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko signed a law on partial mobilization. According to the decree, mobilization is carried out in all regions of the country within 45 days from the date the decree enters into force. The speaker of the information center of the National Security and Defense Council (NSDC) Andriy Lysenko previously stated that there are 20 thousand reserve servicemen in Ukraine who have experience in peacekeeping and who will be called up in the first place.

            http://www.segodnia.ru/news/143735

            LONG IT IS TIME !!!! IT IS NECESSARY TO CREATE A REGULAR ARMY ---- BOLOTOV GOOD MAN ... NOW IT IS FOR DNR ...
            1. +3
              24 July 2014 19: 25
              continuation of the topic - LPR announced mobilization ...

              18-43, the Lugansk People's Republic is mobilizing the population, according to the address of the head of the republic Valery Bolotov, published on the LPR's official website.
              "Despite the heroic resistance of the Army of the Lugansk People's Republic, despite the fact that the best battalions of the enemy and the best formations of its aviation have already been defeated and found a grave on the battlefields, the enemy continues to climb forward, throwing new forces to the front. <...> We We carry out a full mobilization of the population to strengthen the Army. All who can hold weapons in their hands, we urge to join the ranks of the Army of the LPR. Voluntarily, honestly and conscientiously, "the message says.



              and, here is desertion, in the dill .. the army is only growing !!!!

              18-47, Materials appeared on the network, presumably from the correspondence between the head of the SBU V. Nalyvaichenko and the President of Ukraine P. Poroshenko. According to them, a general desertion began in the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
              "In the period from 14 to 19 July 2014, there has been a catastrophic increase (by 3473 people, 47%) in the number of deserters from the units of the Armed Forces and the National Guard of Ukraine compared to the same indicators of the previous week (1847 people, 25%). this period, the number of missing persons increased (1344 people, 47%; last week - 344 people, 10%). " - reported in the document

              клик
              1. +10
                24 July 2014 19: 28
                Quote: cosmos111
                In the period from 14 to 19 July 2014, there is a catastrophic growth (by 3473 people, 47%)

                deserters are most likely those killed who are hiding so that their relatives do not pay their pensions later.
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                2. +2
                  24 July 2014 19: 55
                  Well, yes - here are 3 more deserters. I apologize in advance for the cruelty, but this is life ..
                  1. +4
                    24 July 2014 20: 29
                    Quote: zeleznijdorojnik
                    Well, yes - here are 3 more deserters. I apologize in advance for the cruelty, but this is life ..

                    this is war ...
                3. 0
                  24 July 2014 21: 46
                  Kars, have your family and friends received no summons?
                  1. +3
                    24 July 2014 23: 14
                    Quote: 31231
                    ars, your family and friends have not received a summons?

                    so far only the neighbor from the bottom. but I don’t feel sorry for him.
                4. 0
                  24 July 2014 22: 13
                  And who will pay pensions if Ukraine as a state no longer exists and never will be?
                  1. 0
                    25 July 2014 07: 11
                    Quote: NORILCHAN
                    And who will pay pensions if Ukraine as a state already

                    Successor, there are a lot of candidates for the Westerners, but for the South-East there is only one candidate from Novorossiya.
                    hi
            2. +2
              24 July 2014 20: 30
              [quote = cosmos111] news ... lightning ...- BOLOTOV YOUNGER ...

              Do you think so? a week ago - interview-Bolotov-all questions are solved by Donetsk and Lugansk districts (in their own way) ...
              Lugansk allowed its own encirclement by the action of its commander, about obano
              if not all, then a lot because of someone's desire to steer ...
              The difficult situation is 90% due to the lack of a unified command.
          2. pahom54
            +1
            24 July 2014 19: 38
            for Cosmos111
            I just want to point-correct with the cursor where the fuck is ... but ...
    2. +29
      24 July 2014 17: 33
      You know ... ... I finally calmed down internally about the New Russia. Because I understood one thing. And I realized this just after the CIA officers staged a provocation with the plane. And this idea is very simple, and if it came to my not the smartest brain, then at the top it should be clear for a long time ... ... And the thought is this: - And what will the hordes of obkurin and zombie armed masses, by mistake called the Ukrainian army, do military and political support of the strongest states and the largest military bloc, on the wings of victory when they trample New Russia ???? RIGHT!!!!! They will go to Crimea !! Parashenko is an inadequate comrade and will easily give such an order, the more information pumping allows. And it will be much worse than any sanctions there. This is already a war on our territory. And the Kremlin understands this very well, and therefore Novorossiya will live! This is our Fort Post!
      1. +7
        24 July 2014 18: 46
        A colleague disagrees. The option when the Ukrainians go to Crimea will completely untie our hands - maybe our people will die, but they are essentially dying now, but they will apply sanctions to us, but sanctions will be applied to us in any case - sooner or later. But for History, the future conflict will become the War of Liberation, if you like, the Patriotic War.
        1. s1н7т
          -2
          24 July 2014 21: 29
          Quote: zeleznijdorojnik
          will completely untie our hands

          What will they untie? In a war with the West? What are you about?! Why the heck here they planted capitalism on us - to fight the capitalists? Do not even hope, naive! In any case, as a result, there will be statements: She drowned, He fell, It turned out, as it happened, Well I warned against a referendum, etc. chewing. It was not for this that the Union was collapsing, it was not for this that they were saving up bucks in order to exchange them for the Crimea that no one needed (well, except for those who will master the budget there, of course). And if the Ukrainians suddenly climb into the Crimea, it will be clear even for idiots how our oligarchs got their hands on, exchanging socialism for rabid capitalism - the country will be in an ass. They will wash off, kanesh, but with incomprehensible prospects. And Russia will receive an animal from the North. But for them - shit, kanesh, they will remain for caviar with little. Would this be possible in the USSR? Nonsense. Money ruined the brain, money ruined everything.
          1. ComradeMauser
            +2
            24 July 2014 21: 55
            I am very sorry ... I reread your post three times. Unfortunately I could not find any meaning. Maybe you just didn't express your thought accurately enough, but everything looks like a set of words. I apologize again ...
          2. +1
            25 July 2014 07: 17
            Quote: c1n7
            Why the heck here they planted capitalism on us - to fight the capitalists?

            I didn’t know that there were no wars until 17!
            Quote: c1n7
            And Russia will receive an animal from the North.

            No, I was already recently, visiting the USSR, I got some food.
            Quote: c1n7
            Would this be possible in the USSR? Nonsense.

            Unfortunately, no, that's why it broke up.
      2. s1н7т
        0
        24 July 2014 21: 15
        Quote: Ramzaj99
        And this is well understood in the Kremlin.

        If they understood, they would have introduced a "no-fly zone" long ago. And since they are still chewing snot and covering their ass, it is clear that they are thinking about something else. About "national property", for example.
      3. +2
        24 July 2014 21: 50
        If Poroshenko goes to Crimea, then the Kremlin can go to Kharkov and Kherson.
        One tie lover has already gone to Tskhinval.
    3. +21
      24 July 2014 17: 52
      24.07.14 17:33 Posted by Bezler

      “One of the units fighting in the city of Donetsk, during one of the dill attacks, destroyed an enemy armored personnel carrier and 2 tanks. One of the tanks was captured, is being restored and will go into battle in 2 days! documentation with the callsigns of the tank's crew was found, The crew was completely destroyed during the exchange of fire. "
      1. +4
        24 July 2014 20: 01
        As they say, do not boast of going to the army ...
        It was May 15

        And boast of going with ... well, in general, after.
        And this is two months later ...
        1. ComradeMauser
          +2
          24 July 2014 22: 15
          Quote: chehywed
          do not boast of going to the army ...

          The video didn't just smile smile
          It used up wassat
          I especially liked about beer for 6 hryvnia in Moscow.
          With the current rate of collapse of the Ukrainian economy, price tags there will very soon be written in the millions. So beer in Moscow, translated into rubles, is cheaper than a box of matches - this is fantastic drinks

          Or maybe an already lifeless lad from a separate reconnaissance platoon ...
        2. +2
          25 July 2014 02: 01
          So hunting beer for 6 hryvnia. The Ukrainians cheated here too. And it was a show-off. I'm already going to Sochi. Chatterboxes.
    4. aparych
      +4
      24 July 2014 17: 58
      give me a box dear. more precisely, please.
    5. s1н7т
      +1
      24 July 2014 21: 06
      Cannon rollback is not visible, abaldet! They shoot beautifully! smile
  2. +6
    24 July 2014 17: 23
    On the thief and the hat is on, so you should be stupid tsereushniki ...
    1. +11
      24 July 2014 17: 36
      They have already been lying to the point that everyone is confused in the testimony. Some lie one thing, others another. If only we could agree, you idiots. Plush evidence sculpts, and that's agony.
    2. +8
      24 July 2014 17: 50
      Quote: mig31
      On the thief and the hat is on, so you should be stupid tsereushniki ..

      ----------------------------
      Yes, not stupid ... In principle, everything was conceived correctly, but the performers' hands-on skills are outrageous ... Or rather, the diligence is such that the svidomites, out of excessive zeal, shot down a civilian plane earlier than was necessary ... Drop the Boeing into Russian territory, then there is no objective control would not help ... Responsibility of the country providing flights over its territory ...
      1. +2
        24 July 2014 18: 58
        It does not matter where it fell, it is important where it was shot down. That is the responsibility. And if our "black boxes" fell, we would not have gone to London.
  3. +5
    24 July 2014 17: 23
    They will lie, but ours, too, do not slurp soup with bast shoes, so they get bogged down to bear nonsense
    1. +21
      24 July 2014 17: 29
      A cool video from two still small, but Svidomo, girls up to the ovaries. They will grow up, they will go to Moscow to sell themselves, but for now ....Well, let's talk to the maskalik Glory to Ukraine Death of the pits
      1. +14
        24 July 2014 17: 38
        And this is in the center of Europe, full of shiz
        1. ComradeMauser
          +1
          24 July 2014 22: 35
          The statements that Ukraine is the center of Europe are alarming.
          Since when?
          Ukraine has always been part of the Russian Empire (if you do not take into account some regions from the Pshek and Austro-Hungarians)
          And here, lately, more and more often: the center of Europe. Ukraine is Europe (Already a very controversial statement), but here is the CENTER OF EUROPE !!! Who invented only this? So let's get to the point that the outskirts of Europe - Yekaterinburg ...
          Ukraine is not Europe at all, it is the former part of Russia, the sphere of interests of Russia, the sphere of influence of Russia!
          No matter how anyone out there in Ukraine and in Europe puffs up ...
      2. +26
        24 July 2014 17: 41
        In Moscow, they may “fly by” with a “career” with such mugs (forgive me, Lord!), But for Europe, just right ...
        1. aparych
          +9
          24 July 2014 18: 03
          and they are not prchem. as the parents said and did so. this is the dementia of the parents
        2. +6
          24 July 2014 20: 35
          Quote: S-17
          , but for Europe just right ...

          Turkey. they won't be able to do anything else
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      4. +12
        24 July 2014 18: 00
        Why are they needed in Moscow ?! Let them roll into the geyrope, since they really wanted to! "Turn pink", girls, you look!
        Well, but seriously, there is so much hatred "from a young age"! No, we do not need "such" dill with such "undersized"! Let their geyropa "meet", they will look good with Turks and Arabs!
      5. +7
        24 July 2014 18: 02
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Well, let's talk to the maskalik Glory to Ukraine Death of the pits

        Yes, the girls' "intelligence" is overwhelming. fool What do they have instead of a brain? request
        1. +7
          24 July 2014 18: 15
          Quote: Nick
          Yes, the girls' "intelligence" is overwhelming. What do they have instead of a brain?

          It is indecent to say that.
        2. +10
          24 July 2014 18: 16
          Quote: Nick
          Yes, the girls' "intelligence" is overwhelming. What do they have instead of a brain?
          Yes, normal children! At this age, it is "Sponge"! If yours or mine are given to watch ONLY UkroSMI, then ours will sing like that. hi
          1. +9
            24 July 2014 18: 22
            Children, that's okay, but imagine a healthy, adult man, the father of a large family from one small village in Siberia, and so, due to the lack of a TV, he draws all the news from the Internet from the Ukropsk sites (why I don’t know from the Ukropsk ones) so here he is I'm quite sure (and specifically) that Russia is to blame for all this mess, you say, but I know him.
            1. +14
              24 July 2014 18: 34
              Quote: snifer
              Children, that's okay, but imagine a healthy, adult man, the father of a large family from one small village in Siberia, and so, due to the lack of a TV, he draws all the news from the Internet from the Ukropsk sites (why I don’t know from the Ukropsk ones) so here he is I'm quite sure (and specifically) that Russia is to blame for all this mess, you say, but I know him.

              So I, too, sit in the Urals, in a remote place, having only the Internet, and what? Knowing what the Zapadlians are like, I am 100% sure that they both did not want to work and do not want to, all the time they try to enter paradise on someone else's crap, here is a fairly simple logic to include, they will not be allowed into Europe Vurds, these are all curly-haired show-offs, what they signed, there is nowhere to put their Arab Muslims, so they rush about who is more profitable to lie under, like an old prostitute released in circulation
              1. +2
                24 July 2014 19: 06
                Quote: Kergudo Straight
                Knowing what the Westerners are

                Now, after the events in Novorossiya, they can be safely called Cains, and they live not in Ukraine, but in Cain.
            2. +6
              24 July 2014 19: 15
              Wangyu: He has the wrong search engine - Ukrop pirate! Damn, and where did he find it in Siberia?
              1. +2
                24 July 2014 20: 06
                Quote: sabakina
                He has the wrong search engine-ukropskaya pirate! Damn, and where did he find it in Siberia?

                As they used to say in my childhood - you need to know the place ... smile
          2. +3
            24 July 2014 19: 01
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Yes, normal children! At this age, it is "Sponge"!

            This is understandable, but this will not add to the mind of the Ukrainian youth. They were made poor from childhood, how, with such a quality of the young generation, can Ukraine remain in the format of an independent state?
            1. 0
              24 July 2014 20: 26
              Quote: Nick
              They were made miserable from childhood,

              We, too, Generation Pae ...
              1. +2
                24 July 2014 21: 14
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                We, too, Generation Pae ...

                Right. Fortunately, it didn't go that far ...
                1. 0
                  25 July 2014 07: 37
                  Quote: Nick
                  Right. Fortunately, it didn’t go that far.

                  Sorry, but you are not from this wretched generations _
                  Who walks amicably in a row?
                  Pioneer our detachment!
                  Strong, brave.
                  Artful, skillful.

                  You step, do not lag behind,
                  Loudly sing a song.
                  Who goes? We are going!
                  Who sings? We sing!

                  Who walks amicably in a row?
                  - Our pioneer squad!


                  Not about you _
                  "Damn, Seryoga, this is not the planet!" (c) - seems to be becoming my mantra ... = /
          3. +3
            24 July 2014 19: 22
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            If yours or mine are given to watch ONLY UkroSMI, then ours will sing like that.

            Right. Parents need to be punished.
            1. +1
              24 July 2014 20: 23
              Quote: Rarahin
              Right. Parents need to be punished
              Parents are shown other programs. The influence of the media on public opinion is enormous. But most of all it affects children, they do not have a protective barrier of life experience. hi
              P.S. About 10 years ago, there was a program on the TVC about the influence of cartoons and children's magazines on the psyche of a child and the creation of stereotypes in children (as a result, early sexual activity, and a decrease in the birth rate on a global scale)
        3. +5
          24 July 2014 20: 37
          Quote: Nick
          What do they have instead of a brain?

          maidan. well, tverskaya with the district in the future
        4. ComradeMauser
          0
          24 July 2014 22: 51
          Quote: Nick
          What do they have instead of a brain?

          There are girls 12-14 years old in the video.
          What kind of brain are you talking about?
          Everything that broadcasts TV, what parents say (who watch the same TV), then grows in their fragile brains. They just don't understand what they are talking about. In their understanding, this is cool.
          This just once again shows the power of media pressure on the perception of the people of Ukraine.
      6. +10
        24 July 2014 18: 09
        N..Yes, it's not funny, it's weird ... How many more generations with a skewed brain will try to grow up according to American manuals.
      7. +4
        24 July 2014 18: 28
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Cool video from two still small, but Svidomo girls on the most ovaries


        We must remember the faces. or even in fact they will bear death in Moscow ... in Leningrad ... syphilis
        1. +1
          24 July 2014 20: 03
          Quote: GRAY
          We must remember the faces. or even in fact they will bear death in Moscow ... in Leningrad ... syphilis

          Beware of casual connections, and you will be happy ...
      8. +2
        24 July 2014 18: 38
        and will come ... little !? such and their youngsters!?!?
      9. +7
        24 July 2014 18: 57
        Children with something? These are their idiotos parents.
        1. +1
          24 July 2014 20: 06
          How where.!? and their children.!? genetics however ..!
          1. 0
            24 July 2014 22: 32
            Quote: uge.garik
            and their children.!? genetics however ..!

            "The son is not responsible for the father"
  4. +13
    24 July 2014 17: 23
    The Slavoukrainian junta in the already established bloody manner began to sweep tracks.
    The fact that Kalamoisky still on July 18 seized the recordings of the radio communication between the dispatchers of the Dnepropetrovsk airport and the 777 pilots is not necessary. Apparently they are trying to concoct another fake material from the negotiations of the Malaysian Boeing pilots with the tower.

    During the execution of a combat mission in the city of Lugansk, the commander of an anti-aircraft missile platoon of the fire support company of military unit A 1778, Senior Lieutenant Vladimir Chernous, was reported in the press group of the Transcarpathian OVK, Ukrinform reports.

    http://www.segodnya.ua/regions/donetsk/komandir-vzvoda-iz-uzhgoroda-pogib-v-boyu
    -za-luganskiy-aeroport-538988.html

    However, for the West, this is no longer important:
    If Boeing was shot down by militias, then a terrorist act. If Boeing was shot down by Russia, then a terrible crime. If Boeing was shot down by Ukraine, this is an unfortunate misunderstanding.
    1. +5
      24 July 2014 17: 27
      The militias are reporting this.
      Today, near the Luhansk airport, Novorossiya fighters destroyed the commander of an anti-aircraft missile platoon of punitive forces - Vladimir Chernous.
      1. +4
        24 July 2014 19: 19
        I wonder what the anti-aircraft gunner was doing near the Luhansk airport? waited for the takeoff of the militia dry?
    2. Caa
      +2
      24 July 2014 20: 17
      If Boeing was shot down by militias, then a terrorist act. If Boeing was shot down by Russia, then a terrible crime. If Boeing was shot down by Ukraine, this is an unfortunate misunderstanding.


      You do not know how to think "in the West":
      If the Boeing was shot down by the militia, it was Russia that helped them.
      If the Boeing was shot down by Russia, then "we told you: spend more in NATO !!! Putin is sleeping and sleeping to restore the Empire!"
      If the Boeing was shot down by Ukraine, then this is ... a blatant lie of the Kremlin!
  5. +5
    24 July 2014 17: 23
    All they do is that they lie, but the truth will emerge anyway, and the whole world will know who shot down the plane.
    1. +5
      24 July 2014 17: 37
      No. Doesn't recognize "the whole world". Well, not now, at least, when this truth is critically tied to a tense moment. I myself am convinced that the militias, and even more so the RF Armed Forces, did not shoot down the Boeing for reasons of "definitely not profitable." And by this it is true: either Euro-Ukrainian, or PMCs, or the CIA itself were shot down. And to them "at least a piss in the eyes, everything is God's dew."
  6. +6
    24 July 2014 17: 24
    I'm already tired of my screams, "The hat is on fire for a thief .." 08.08.08 there was the same hysteria (and then silence ..)))
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  7. +7
    24 July 2014 17: 24
    So many years have passed, not the style, not the Yankees' methods do not change.
    1. +3
      24 July 2014 18: 03
      So many years have passed, the style does not change the Yankees' methods

      Well, if the script "rolls", why change it ?!
      In general, the Yankes, the "scriptwriters", are also tired of them, and their hangers-on are worse than a bitter radish! To them that on the forehead, that on the forehead - everything is one!
      1. +4
        24 July 2014 20: 44
        Quote: asar
        To them that on the forehead, that on the forehead - everything is one!

        well, they have not yet received it in the forehead. it's time to give
    2. +6
      24 July 2014 19: 50
      Yes, they have, they have proof!
  8. +16
    24 July 2014 17: 25
    I think this has already ceased to be interesting to the world, and yet I have a lot of questions:
    1- why the relatives of the victims are not shown;
    2- why no one makes payments to relatives (due to the Taiwan disaster, payments have already begun);
    3- why the process of identification of bodies takes place at a military base where;
    4- why decryption of recorders in Britain ???
    in short, there are still a lot of why.
    1. +30
      24 July 2014 17: 49
      Don't slander the USA. They provided the transcript from the satellite, it's just that their equipment is lousy:



      1. +3
        24 July 2014 19: 22
        In this case, not the technique is worthless, but the calligraphy is worthless ...
      2. waisson
        +4
        24 July 2014 19: 41
        ------------------ here's what I found hi laughing
    2. +10
      24 July 2014 17: 54
      I wanted to write the same thing. Nobody saw the relatives of the victims, apparently because they had not yet managed to assemble a troupe (!) Of artists who will portray them. The injured Dutch and Malaysians are very similar to card cheaters who play in one pocket. England of black boxes will find out that the rocket was launched from the Kremlin personally by Putin. Why did the Boeing explode at high altitude? -Why nobody is interested. It is unlikely from the SU 25 rocket. The things of the passengers are like garbage that was collected at the city dump of Amsterdam. The passports, again freshly made, look very much like the Ukrainians are simply covering up the CIA operation, which destroyed the dummy plane with the prospect of putting pressure on Russia.
    3. +3
      24 July 2014 18: 06
      Because a Boeing is a lost Boeing, if so, then the black boxes are set up and they will have "proof" that Russia shot it down. hi
  9. Andy1967
    +6
    24 July 2014 17: 25
    These deceitful two-faced "Americans ... tsy" and their trained "ukroobesyanki" can screech to a carrot plot. The true picture is constantly becoming clear. Already the NSDC declares that they did not accuse us. Both laughter and sin - in kindergarten, people are much more responsible ...
  10. +10
    24 July 2014 17: 25
    The USA behaves interestingly, they say "We have evidence, but we will not show it to anyone. And the evidence of Russia is propaganda. And it does not matter that" propaganda "is very much like the truth."
  11. +8
    24 July 2014 17: 26
    Official Washington is known to adhere to the same version. July 25 US State Department spokesman Marie Harf said at a briefing:
    “We have yet to find out who pressed the button. We believe that the militias who fired the missile could not have done so without the help of Russia. The militias who we are firmly convinced fired the rocket would not have been able to operate, train and arm themselves without support. ”

    I didn’t understand much, how is it July 25, because it will only be tomorrow, or someone has a time machine
    1. +4
      24 July 2014 20: 49
      Quote: CARLSON
      or someone has a time machine

      at the State Department. but they won't show it
  12. +2
    24 July 2014 17: 28
    In a previous briefing, Harf said that the militia shot down the Boeing, most likely by mistake. At the same time, she noted that the State Department has no information about the involvement in the tragedy of Russia.

    That's right, by mistake. Only not by the militias, but by the forces of the OkrPVO. And they aimed at the very non-swinging... Infa 146%
  13. +5
    24 July 2014 17: 30
    Well, no one wants to wait for the end of the examinations, everyone wants to distinguish themselves in advance, in search of sensations on human grief. The seventh day is the same. So far, only the work done by the militias and the briefing of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation is something adequate of all the actions.
  14. +3
    24 July 2014 17: 30
    In a week, three planes, all crashed for various reasons, but there were people there, this is scary.
  15. rmt63
    +4
    24 July 2014 17: 32
    They brought a civilian letak and took it away, damned people. Fieric dol ... in sybyu wassat
  16. Mercucio
    +4
    24 July 2014 17: 34
    Actually, nothing new. There are a lot of media subjects in the world, a lot of news and events. At the same time, it is almost impossible to find out about these news without imposing the opinion of the editorial board (or the owners of the media). The paradox of the age of information accessibility.
    1. +3
      24 July 2014 19: 25
      I would not write "accessibility"and" inpermissiveness"
  17. +14
    24 July 2014 17: 36
    And here is a report about the Boeing shot down with dill, which BBS first posted on its website, and then quickly deleted it. So much for freedom of speech. Whatever the Washington regional committee orders, they will do it. Vobshem Roofing material with his team is lying as it breathes, that's after all!
  18. +3
    24 July 2014 17: 36
    Here's what inspired me about all of this: GDP is just kidding about mattresses and their mongrel now. I’ll explain why I think so: after all, why did they give away the so-called * black boxes *? Why do they need us? Indeed, in addition to visual evidence of the involvement of the dill-Khuntyat mattress and a similar gang in the liner's death: there is also voice evidence. This is the GDP joker. Now he (the GDP) is making his * Hamlet * pause. Let them jump and think what to tell them. Ukrainians ... in zh
    1. +2
      24 July 2014 19: 31
      I agree, the situation is reminiscent of the U-2 over Sverdlovsk, when they shot down, they did not report the information about the fact that the pilot was alive and taken. The Americans thought that everything was in the water (in the cockpit, there was even a button for the self-detonation of the plane, Paures did not press it) and said so much nonsense and nonsense that when they presented the pilot, they simply fell into a stupor and numbness (they thought that ?! to react to this, then they began to hum something, but no one believed them anymore. So here, too, the GDP has a lot of things, and saves it for later, and let the dill-mattresses carry nonsense, when they are presented with it, they will turn out to be in a complete ass they already and so few people believe, they are not asking convenient questions, from which they are trying to get away.I served urgently in the RRVO in 95-97 (Chebarkul) in the air defense of the NE, U-2 was shot down over Sverdlovsk at an altitude of 22000 m and he fell on the border of the Sverdlovsk and Chelyabinsk regions. Boeing-777 flew from west to east, fell 54 km before the Russian border, which means the plane was shot down 20-25 km west hi
  19. +22
    24 July 2014 17: 37
    24.07.14. A message from the "rifleman" militia.

    “By the way, I don’t want to alarm you in vain, but in a month the militiamen will need warm uniforms.
    First rain, and then winter. And also white camouflage coats, skis, snowmobiles and all that.
    The chances that the militia will win before winter are very slim. As you understand, I would not want to give up and be defeated.
    This means that there will be an autumn-winter campaign.
    Russians in the winter war are masters and personally Strelkov understands it well. But we need warm quilted jackets. Better to think about it in July than to start rushing about in September. "
    1. +7
      24 July 2014 17: 43
      Well, well, if we do not fall under the "Yatsenyuk sanctions", we will help.
    2. +2
      24 July 2014 19: 19
      We will help you in any way.
  20. -7
    24 July 2014 17: 38
    Well, they lie further. ???? Like, I must admit that our funds have gone to waste. Americans have pictures of launches (maybe they are lying), but we ?????? We need to think about it. And then we launch Progress. The reconnaissance satellites must be launched. And the more, the better. They did not fly away with PROTON - new riveting and fast. And then we chew snot. And they have us ....
    1. +5
      24 July 2014 18: 25
      We have such satellites. Only now to use them over the territory of Ukraine is complete idiocy. There are more interesting countries in this respect. And if an American satellite recorded the fact of launching a rocket in Ukraine, then by great chance, since near the border and they are more interested in the situation in Russia. Ukrainian fools fell under the distribution due to the fact that the satellite cannot, by definition, remove information only clearly along the border of Russia.
      But what the Americans saw there, apparently, upon close examination, did not satisfy them. And now there is a strenuous attempt to falsify data. Otherwise, they would have been shaking their proofs before the whole world for a long time.
      1. +1
        24 July 2014 19: 32
        Quote: Iline
        Reconnaissance satellites need to be launched

        Ours provided the international commission with satellite images showing all the divisions of the Ukrop beeches.
      2. +4
        24 July 2014 20: 59
        Quote: Iline
        they would have been shaking their proofs before the whole world for a long time.

        soon they will draw by hand and show. there is experience. The Sovdep was intimidated with washing powder.
    2. 0
      31 July 2014 17: 23
      What are you guys. ????? Such a region. There is a no brainer, every second control. And we all launch satellites of some unknown countries. Now it has probably already become clear. that we t, e. The Russian Federation got into a mess there. Grandma-main-control-the territory of Ukraine-on the side.
      1. 0
        31 July 2014 20: 20
        Quote: Signaller
        control - the territory of Ukraine - on the side.

        Mmm, images from space of the positions of the Ukrainian Buk, presented at the briefing of our Ministry of Defense, you need to understand crap ?

        Quote: Signaller
        we t, e. The Russian Federation got into a mess there.

        How does that sound, well, straight _
        The grocer and the cardinal are power!

        hi
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  21. +12
    24 July 2014 17: 40
    I turned on the TV, and there the Shakhtar fans, young, healthy foreheads, were jumping and shouting: “He who does not jump is the one!”. It is mainly those "born in the USSR" who are fighting, but the youth of the DPR and don’t need it for nothing! So what?
    1. +3
      24 July 2014 18: 57
      Quote: Tim Coconuts
      young, healthy foreheads, jumping and yelling: "He who does not jump, he is!"

      Let them be called into the army with dill .. and not poor peasants who, after seeing the summons, bulge out or obediently lower their eyes to go to the military registration and enlistment office ..
      1. +5
        24 July 2014 21: 05
        Quote: Scoun
        obediently dropping their eyes go to the military registration and enlistment office ..

        taking diapers with you
    2. +2
      24 July 2014 19: 36
      Quote: Tim Coconuts
      It is mainly those "born in the USSR" who are fighting, but the youth of the DPR and don’t need it for nothing!

      You are more right than ever. Today I come to work, and the production manager reports to me that, according to the order of the city authorities, they hired one of the Luhansk refugees. A guy of about 28 years old, his eyes are on the floor (apparently his conscience is still not out) and he works stupidly. By the way, the salary in this production is very good for our city. That is the head of production, that I am a veteran of military operations. We started a heart-to-heart conversation. But it didn’t work, I closed myself in and did not answer questions about the situation in my homeland in principle.
  22. +2
    24 July 2014 17: 40
    And we are getting stronger.
  23. +3
    24 July 2014 17: 44
    "Official Washington, as you know, adheres to the same version. On July 25, US State Department spokesman Marie Harf said at a briefing:" What are you guys? today is July 24 in the yard. Although Harf said so.
  24. +1
    24 July 2014 17: 44
    The head of the SBU counterintelligence department, Vitaly Naida, lied on the air of the American channel "CNN", saying that Russia had removed from the territory of Ukraine the Buk air defense missile system, which had allegedly been handed over to the militias, reports RT.

    My Finding "arrived" ...
    (Excerpt from the film - "The irony of fate or" Enjoy your bath! "")
  25. +6
    24 July 2014 17: 47
    New version of the SBU:

    Boeing shot down Putin from a secret missile base on the far side of the moon.))
  26. +9
    24 July 2014 17: 50
    24.07.14. 17:33 Message from Bezler.

    “One of the units fighting in the city of Donetsk, during one of the dill attacks, destroyed an enemy armored personnel carrier and 2 tanks. One of the tanks was captured, is being restored and will go into battle in 2 days! documentation with the callsigns of the tank's crew was found, The crew was completely destroyed during the exchange of fire. "


    Bulletins from Strelkova Igor Ivanovich

    24.07.2014. Summary from the LPR militia for the morning and afternoon (as of 16:00) July 24, 2014

    "On the past day, the situation in the vicinity of the capital of the Luhansk People's Republic did not change significantly, the belligerents remained in their positions.
    The LNR artillery continued to successfully work out the enemy’s positions, in particular, the checkpoint of the Ukrainian army in the vicinity of the Georgievka village was almost destroyed, the enemy lost at least one tank, one armored personnel carrier and, before 30, personnel. Serious damage was also inflicted on a column sprawled near Bakhmutovka village in the direction of Aleksandrovsk, where the enemy lost at least the 2 tank, the 2 BTR, and more than 100 soldiers of the Ukrainian army were disabled.
    Also, the republic’s artillery continued to work on the radar station, where the largest group of the aggressor was concentrated, the Lugansk airport and the enemy’s positions in the area of ​​Metalist.
    To the north, the enemy managed to take Severodonetsk and partially enter Lysychansk, where they continue to hold defenses near the 20 fighters of the commandant company. Thirty people today under mortar fire went out of the city to neighboring Stakhanov to gather fighters to help those who remained in Lisichansk. On the eve of the night, the city was again heavily bombarded from “Grad” installations, there is no water and electricity supply, it is, in fact, on the verge of a humanitarian catastrophe.
    A serious situation has developed in Debaltseve, located on the border of the LC and the DPR, where city defenders are experiencing an acute shortage of ammunition and heavy equipment.
    In Gukovo, the Ukrainian side continues to hold the customs point, but is subject to regular shelling by LPR units.
    The day before, the Luhansk residents also attacked the checkpoint of Ukrainian troops in the vicinity of Makaprovo, in response from the Georgievsky Spusk the aggressor shot the village with howitzers, according to eyewitnesses, some houses in the village are still on fire.
    Under Sverdlovsk, clashes between divisions of the army of the LC and the Ukrainian Armed Forces occur at the Krasny Partizan mine. "
    1. aparych
      +4
      24 July 2014 18: 10
      the word SANCTIONS is already included in the everyday life of RUSSIANS as a joke.
    2. +2
      24 July 2014 18: 24
      One of the tanks is captured


  27. +5
    24 July 2014 17: 53
    "Kiev renounced accusations against Russia" - http://politobzor.net/
    1. +4
      24 July 2014 18: 12
      The elder ordered
  28. +20
    24 July 2014 17: 55
    I'm going to taxis. On the radio - as a musical program. The listeners ask for the transfer of songs for the quiet, who at once perebivay in the zone of boyovyh events. "We are happy to see you, your fondness. Do not listen to me when you are going to fight" The song sounds: "Bat-battalion commander, Batyan-battalion commander, Russia, Moscow and Arbat are behind us!
    1. +6
      24 July 2014 18: 58
      Quote: Megatron
      By radio - as a musical program

      A message has already flashed that the SBU is dealing with the radio station, and with the presenters, and in general, who ordered the song for the "terrorists"? laughing
  29. +2
    24 July 2014 17: 57
    Is this photo from CNN?
    MDA ...
    The head of the counterintelligence department of the SBU needs to check at least a little information ...
    Let's follow the link:
    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=827344410615244&set=a.565114806838207.14
    7452.100000190799435 & type = 1 & theater
    The photo is not right, but it was then and in that place that he was photographed - March 18.
    Yasinovatsky post (Donetsk region)
    There are also comments: The beech on the trailer numbered 312 belongs to the Armed Forces of Ukraine

    In general - like a serious guy on a serious TV channel ... but he drives such bullshit.
    request
    1. 0
      24 July 2014 18: 04
      So back on July 21, the RF Ministry of Defense stated the following: "There is an obvious falsification of materials. The pictures were taken in the city of Krasnoarmeysk, which is confirmed by a banner next to the road, which contains the address of the car dealership at 34 Dnepropetrovskaya Street," a representative of the General Staff said.

      In fact, this billboard weighs in the city of Lugansk, st. Nechuya-Levitsky. And the address of the car dealership Leninskigo Komsomola street 1-B (coordinates 48.545760 °, 39.264622 °)

      the last photo is old, so the banner is old. Filmed from the roof of a skyscraper, and the video was filmed from the 2-4 floors of this skyscraper
      1. +5
        24 July 2014 18: 43
        Quote: Demon_Blood
        In fact, this billboard weighs in the city of Lugansk,

        Well, here too
        http://politichanka.livejournal.com/175304.html
        about this, but only the binding to the terrain is left ...
        Moreover, the equipment should be closed during transportation, if the equipment is not covered, then it is shown to interested parties.
      2. +6
        24 July 2014 19: 46
        Excuse me, but where did the billboard go on the opposite side of the road? Has Putin brought with him as a keepsake?
        2. Where is the church and red brick building?
        Conclusion: This is not the same place!
        1. +2
          24 July 2014 19: 59
          An interesting minus ... At least justified. Or are we acting like pants connected?
          1. +2
            24 July 2014 20: 10
            Quote: sabakina
            An interesting minus ...

            Nothing to say, that's it run into a fit of impotent anger !
            wink
            1. +4
              24 July 2014 20: 31
              Thanks to an unknown person who neutralized my minus. I will add on my own. I am a professional driver, I have been working since 1986, God knows how many kilometers I have wound. Therefore, I can distinguish the picture on the road, even if I have never been there.
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      4. +1
        25 July 2014 05: 14
        Video from 2-4 floors? Then why are the shadows from the lanterns so close to the operator and focusing on the line of the truck cab?
        1. +1
          25 July 2014 07: 47
          Quote: innoker-1563
          why are the shadows from the lanterns so close to the operator and focusing on the line of the truck cab?

          Should it be otherwise?
          No hover over the fence dear innoker-1563 , do not sow confusion in the minds of the widespread Ukrainians. They will have to torture Vicki to clarify the meaning of narrow professional terms _ shadows, focus, line, etc.
          wink
  30. +6
    24 July 2014 17: 58
    At this rate, they will soon argue that Russia turns off the sun for the night, it is urgently necessary to impose sanctions for such blasphemy, which they can not think of so as not to work, the paradoxical policy of sitting to the very top of the head in slops, and shouting that this is chocolate, then that the junta are already they sold everything and stole it, everyone understands, and it’s clear that they’re looking for a reason, how to get out of a gamerope, is also clear, but what matters is Russia? her dill owes an impressive amount, why can't we nationalize, the same pig factories, the entire dill business and assets in Russia? as a repayment of the debt, after that, I'm almost sure, the pig will squeal in a completely different way, This is not state money, which is not sorry, but personal without which he is not who
  31. +16
    24 July 2014 18: 00
    how information is it taking place !!
    Reutergate! IN A TELEPHONE CONVERSATION WITH OBAMA POROSHENKO RECOGNIZED THAT THE BOEING HAS BEEN KILLED BY THE UKRAINIAN AIR DEFENSE, "AND THE SU-25 BURNED UP" ... Thursday, July 24, 2014 08:14
    Last night, one of the employees of the Ukrainian government communications unit sold a recording of a telephone conversation between the presidents of the United States and Ukraine, which took place on July 1 at 22-18-53-19 European time, to a German news agency correspondent for $ 12 million. The recording was sent to Berlin, and Merkel was immediately informed of its content. She ordered "under no circumstances to disclose the content of this conversation in the media." However, an officer of one of the German special services (presumably working for Poland) managed to transmit the transcript of the Poroshenko-Obama conversation to Warsaw, where it became known to the Russian intelligence through intelligence channels. The transcript is very long, so I am citing only one of the fragments:

    "Poroshenko: - Barak, I am surprised and upset by your inconsistency in the messages about the reasons for the destruction of Boeing ... Now you point to the separatists, then to Moscow, then suddenly declare that there is no evidence of her involvement in this case ... from the very beginning we agreed to adhere to one position ... But if you continue to make such statements, it will be difficult for us to resist Moscow ...
    Obama: - Calm down, Peter. You, apparently, misunderstood the essence of our statements ... We say "not yet" ... But we are working a lot on this ... But now you have to work much more to ... to ... to ... everything it looked as plausible as possible ... You made a big mistake by sending this very ... combat aircraft ... The Russians spotted it ... And now it will be very difficult for you and for us to explain to the world ... why it was necessary. ..
    Poroshenko: - We were not sure that we would succeed from the ground ... We had to control ... And hedge ...
    Obama: - I understand, I understand ... But this did not enter into our ideas about the scheme of events ... And now the Russians have another trump card in their hands ...
    Poroshenko: - It turned out the way it happened ...
    Obama: - Peter, you must admit that it turned out badly ... This ... I mean this plane of yours that flew after ... This adds a lot of trouble to us ...
    Poroshenko: - As we denied everything, we will deny it ... The main thing is that you do not substitute these strange statements about the innocence of the Russians ...
    Obama: - We will support you in everything ... We are sailing in the same boat ... Do not hesitate ... Although you carried out our general plan with a delay ... This should have happened a little earlier ...
    Poroshenko: - But you are well aware of the level of training of our specialists ...
    Obama: - I am worried that some of these same specialists will not blab out ... The Russians are probably already hunting them ... Try to save these people of yours ... If they open their mouths ...
    Poroshenko: - I understand ... We will make it so that they will never open their mouths ...
    Obama: - You need to tightly control all the witnesses and witnesses ... This can ruin our entire party ...
    Poroshenko: - And what about the black boxes? ... I sent my experts to England ... so that they could work in contact with the British ... But the Russians also require access to these tape recorders or whatever ... This is very dangerous and for us, for you ... There shouldn’t be Russians there ... Otherwise ...
    Obama: - I have already discussed this with Cameron ... Everything will be ok there ... His people will do everything right "...

    (I intend to hand over the transcript of this conversation between Poroshenko and Obama to Reuters today.)

    http://www.liveinternet.ru/users/2125404/post331795866/
    1. +2
      24 July 2014 18: 18
      If this is true, then the fall of America in the place of sukraine, like an unhappy Boeing, is inevitable ...
      1. +1
        24 July 2014 18: 42
        I don’t think everything will turn out so simple ... Even if this transcript is genuine, it will be practically impossible to prove it ... The British will not go against their "older brother" and will prepare, at best, an analysis of the "black boxes" that does not show anything. In the worst case, they will manipulate in favor of their version. All the rest will say in unison that all this is a lie and everything will remain the same - Russia is to blame.
        1. +2
          24 July 2014 18: 48
          Quote: vadimN
          Even if this transcript is genuine

          Well yes, a conversation between two presidents Korefanov , one Barak another Petro.
      2. Caa
        0
        24 July 2014 21: 11
        + Cameron, along with Britain - into the same abyss.
  32. +6
    24 July 2014 18: 09
    What the army is, so are the commanders. The realities of the ukroarmii. There is one driving tank for all units, and even then the tanker is a stupid person)))
    http://youtu.be/6l-woh3Tdbw
  33. Arh
    +4
    24 July 2014 18: 11
    Ukraine is a big ASS !!!)))
    1. +1
      24 July 2014 20: 11
      Quote: Arh
      Ukraine is a big ASS !!!)))

      Bankuyu _
  34. +1
    24 July 2014 18: 15
    "- Stop the thief!" Who shouts the loudest in the bazaar? The one who has a "snout in the fluff." I really wanted to accuse the Russian Federation and the Militiamen that, by inertia, they are farther than they see. The provocation is stupid, like dogs. Let them down that the plane fell on the territory of the Militia. Conclusion: God is not a fraer and marks rogue.
  35. +1
    24 July 2014 18: 21
    here it is already clear, the farce will continue and Russia will put forward unacceptable demands, such as the complete disarmament of the militia with the return of the Crimea, as well as the payment of compensation to the Krajina, and they will stupidly crush us with sanctions, and the fat-eaters from the SS will be driven off equipment and weapons-junk taken from Nata -Ukraine will go
  36. +3
    24 July 2014 18: 25
    To be on the safe side, the parliament has "dissolved", they will work for the sake of appearance for another month and announce new elections. In short, "we have nothing to do with it." Turchinov was shocked - at first it was necessary to vote according to the new social laws - to cut social programs, and you see - they announced their withdrawal from the coalition. The elections will be good without Donbass and Lugansk!
    1. +4
      24 July 2014 18: 44
      Wai-wai! Yes, there is no intelligence in Ukraine except the American one! Turchinov's shock can only be in the electric chair, as well as others like him. It is a pity that there are half of those in Ukraine. crying A total lobotomy is a very expensive production.
    2. +2
      24 July 2014 20: 01
      The Prime Minister of Ukraine Arseniy Yatsenyuk announced in parliament that he would resign “due to the collapse of the coalition and the blocking of government initiatives.” Verkhovna Rada speaker Alexander Turchinov said that the Freedom faction and the UDAR should now nominate a technical prime minister who will lead the government before the parliamentary elections.
      24 July 2014, 18: 48
      Today, deputies of the UDAR and Liberty parties, as well as a number of non-factional deputies and parliamentarians from the "Fatherland" announced their withdrawal from the parliamentary coalition, which will allow to begin the process of dissolution of the Rada. According to the law, if a new coalition is not formed within one month, the president gains the right to prematurely terminate the powers of parliament, RIA Novosti reminds.



      Original article: http://russian.rt.com/article/42326#ixzz38OppMs8V
    3. +4
      24 July 2014 21: 28
      Quote: Egoza
      The elections will be good without Donbass and Lugansk!

      and Crimea), after all, they still consider him theirs) well, they have spat on the constitution for a long time, but how they will get out now is very interesting)
      1. 0
        25 July 2014 07: 53
        Quote: Lukich
        but how they will get out now is very interesting)

        How was Parashenko elected?
        Do you think something will change?
        Or do you think that these regions and peninsulas will not be in the new Verkhovna Rada of Deputies?
        You surprise me!

        hi
  37. +1
    24 July 2014 18: 43
    USA - "there can be only one correct opinion and it belongs to us."
  38. +2
    24 July 2014 18: 48
    Why did they send the Su-25, and not the 27th or the MiG-29? What are the opinions on this?
    1. +2
      24 July 2014 19: 04
      Probably because it is known that the militias have a captured Su-25. To make it easier to blame them.
  39. +1
    24 July 2014 19: 05
    Comrades! Yaytsenyuk resigned, they say:
    http://russian.rt.com/article/42326

    Prime Minister of Ukraine Arseniy Yatsenyuk resigns

    The Prime Minister of Ukraine Arseniy Yatsenyuk announced in parliament that he would resign “due to the collapse of the coalition and the blocking of government initiatives.” Verkhovna Rada speaker Alexander Turchinov said that the Freedom faction and the UDAR should now nominate a technical prime minister who will lead the government before the parliamentary elections.
    24 July 2014, 18: 48
    Today, deputies of the UDAR and Svoboda parties, as well as a number of non-factional deputies and parliamentarians from Batkivshchyna, announced their withdrawal from the parliamentary coalition, which would allow the Rada to be dissolved. According to the law, if a new coalition is not formed within one month, the president gets the right to early terminate the powers of parliament, RIA Novosti reminds.


    Original article: http://russian.rt.com/article/42326#ixzz38OmAZse0
  40. +7
    24 July 2014 19: 09
    They write on YouTube that this exposes dill. True, there is no connection to the area ...
    Posted: July 24 2014
    A foreign meteorological satellite recorded the moment of operation of the "Buk" complex in the infrared range.
    The fields are white, because the shooting is carried out in the thermal range and, accordingly, the dark soil heats up more. For the same reason, the cooling trail from the rocket quickly disappears.

  41. +2
    24 July 2014 19: 17
    The protracted hostilities have exhausted the financial resources allocated for the anti-terrorist operation (ATO), which poses a threat to the termination of payments to the military of Ukraine from August 1, said the Minister of Finance of Ukraine Oleksandr Shlapak.

    "From August 1, we will have nothing to pay the military with", - he said on Thursday in parliament, presenting the draft amendments to the Tax Code (№4309а), designed to increase revenues to the state budget.

    According to him, for the further implementation of the ATO, more than UAH 9 billion is needed, and in general, the state budget needs UAH 31 billion.
    At the same time, the appeal of the head of the Ministry of Finance did not find a proper response from parliamentarians: the proposal to introduce bill No. 4309a on the agenda did not receive the required number of votes.
  42. +1
    24 July 2014 19: 21
    Quote: Iline
    We have such satellites. Only now to use them over the territory of Ukraine is complete idiocy. There are more interesting countries in this respect. And if an American satellite recorded the fact of launching a rocket in Ukraine, then by great chance, since near the border and they are more interested in the situation in Russia. Ukrainian fools fell under the distribution due to the fact that the satellite cannot, by definition, remove information only clearly along the border of Russia.
    But what the Americans saw there, apparently, upon close examination, did not satisfy them. And now there is a strenuous attempt to falsify data. Otherwise, they would have been shaking their proofs before the whole world for a long time.

    If they had something to show, they would have done it long ago! And after the failures with pseudo-bros about the evacuation of beeches, allegedly to Russia, and then they are already afraid to gossip with the items. Here they are stupidly and muttering, Russia is to blame, we think so!
  43. +1
    24 July 2014 19: 22
    In the meantime, the eggman fled to retirement at 19:20 Moscow time. heaped up and into the bushes.
  44. 0
    24 July 2014 19: 22
    Khokhlosrach fell down :)))
  45. +2
    24 July 2014 19: 28
    Ukrainian counterintelligence ... Probably, there is such (the state, after all, with the proper attributes). But what is so mediocre! These are not only replenishments from the Maidan, but also former career officers. Shame and disgrace! How are you going to live, what to tell your grandchildren about?
  46. +2
    24 July 2014 19: 37
    Quote: Thought Giant
    New version of the SBU:
  47. waisson
    +3
    24 July 2014 19: 38
    ------------------ hi
  48. +2
    24 July 2014 19: 45
    It is possible that SA-11 (western designation for Buk) was launched by a defector from the Ukrainian army who was trained to use similar systems, officials said.

    A universal soldier, straight Figaro. One worked simultaneously on three machines of the complex! soldier
  49. +1
    24 July 2014 19: 46
    Ukrainian counterintelligence lies to the whole world about the Russian “Bukakh”, and the US State Department continues to reiterate the involvement of the Russian Federation in the death of “Boeing”

    The dog is breaking into the wind, and his owner is just stupid !!! And this shitty mine does not even pull on a mediocre game !! Buffoons are booth !!
  50. 0
    24 July 2014 20: 21
    More such stories, dudes, I just shit with laughter ... Hero Sala, go crazy ...
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    A cool video from two still small, but Svidomo, girls up to the ovaries. They will grow up, they will go to Moscow to sell themselves, but for now ....Well, let's talk to the maskalik Glory to Ukraine Death of the pits
  51. +2
    24 July 2014 20: 45
    им больше ничего не остается, как врать, сейчас ничего в Россию не пускают, затоварка, платить будут продукцией??? движками для вертолетов, кому трубка, кому лопатка... а скоро зима, еще и холодно будет... голодно холодно, вот и врут ы ручководители, про хреновую Россию, она клятая виновата, потерпите братья хохлы скоро будет лучше: раньше мы сосали Российскую сиську, а скоро братья американцы придут, будем сосать их письку, а она у них жииирная, салозаменитель называется.
    1. +4
      24 July 2014 21: 41
      Quote: awersa
      , потерпите братья хохлы скоро будет лучше

      а кто не хочет терпеть, тот агент ФСБ
  52. +1
    24 July 2014 21: 10
    Америкосы и укропы только врать и воровать умеют
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  54. s1н7т
    0
    24 July 2014 21: 57
    Если бы был Бук, не важно чей, на самолёт пришлось бы около 10 тыс. попаданий, чего не видно на фото. Склоняюсь к взрыву изнутри. Су-25(если был) только приглядывал. Хотя, может, и был готов добить. Ему для этого на 10 км. нет необходимости подниматься. Нет пусковой со следами старта, нет фото выжженого пуском участка земли. Нет фото следа ракеты. Нет сообщений свидетелей пуска. Нет поражающих элементов. Не было Бука.
    1. +1
      25 July 2014 01: 03
      Quote: c1n7
      на самолёт пришлось бы около 10 тыс. попаданий, чего не видно на фото.

      Смотрите все фото! Кабина в решето, и по версии наших заклятых "друзей" ракета поразила в направлении 2 часа по планеру в переднюю часть т. е. кабину экипажа! Снимки с места трагедии это подтверждают! МИР ИХ ПРАХУ!
  55. +4
    24 July 2014 22: 33
    Quote: c1n7
    Нет поражающих элементов. Не было Бука.

    вы все обломки видели? или заключение комиссии уже готово?
  56. 0
    25 July 2014 00: 12
    Русские заявили, что украинский самолёт Су-25 мог сбить лайнер ракетой "воздух-воздух". Мы считаем, что подобное нападение не является возможным»

    а давайте вас погрузим в АИРБАС и проверим ?
  57. 0
    25 July 2014 01: 31
    Quote: Oleg Sobol
    Naida showed a photo of the complex to the correspondent and explained that the photo was taken during the removal of the missile system from Ukraine. In his opinion, the Russians want to "hide" military equipment.


    Найда? Помню в армии у нас собака была с таким именем, да и много собак по имени Найда на памяти!
  58. Alexander67
    0
    25 July 2014 04: 46
    Яценюк поступил как истинный хохол, насрал и вкусты. Потом кто то другой разгребать будет, а он будет верещать что все пид...сы, а он Красавчик. Все в гов..не а он чистенький. Нет тварюга, будет и тебе осиновая ветка с веревкой (мыло для тебя это дорогое удовольствие). В вашей укропской казне нет денег? Так пойдите у нигера пососите мож он вам пообещает. А может в гейропе за ваши жопы вам тоже пообещают? Хотя там своих жоп хватает. Скоро вы завоете:"Дайте жрать!!!" Так жрите что вам Яйценюх оставил перед тем как в кусты свалить am
  59. 0
    25 July 2014 06: 58
    Quote: Lord of the Sith
    The militias are reporting this.
    Today, near the Luhansk airport, Novorossiya fighters destroyed the commander of an anti-aircraft missile platoon of punitive forces - Vladimir Chernous.


    And this figure ran back.
    Yesterday fighters of Novorossiya near Amvrosievka killed the head of the Gorodenkovsky (Ivano-Frankivsk region) regional branch of the Right Sector organized crime group - Yuri Dutchak (Schumacher).


    Отскакались crying
  60. Alexander67
    0
    25 July 2014 08: 24
    Quote: Freeway_ 3007
    Quote: Lord of the Sith
    The militias are reporting this.
    Today, near the Luhansk airport, Novorossiya fighters destroyed the commander of an anti-aircraft missile platoon of punitive forces - Vladimir Chernous.


    And this figure ran back.
    Yesterday fighters of Novorossiya near Amvrosievka killed the head of the Gorodenkovsky (Ivano-Frankivsk region) regional branch of the Right Sector organized crime group - Yuri Dutchak (Schumacher).


    Отскакались crying

    доиигрался на скрипке, сильно музыку любил. Доскакался и наскочил. И помните свидомые так с вами и будет!!!!!!
  61. smoker
    0
    25 July 2014 10: 43
    А между тем, ситуация с MH17 начинает проясняться:
    Boeing 777 crash: Ukrainian security forces make a mistake during military exercises
    According to a source in the power structures of Ukraine, on the day of the crash of the Boeing 777 airliner of the Malaysian company Malaysia Airlines near Donetsk, Ukrainian air defense units worked out the release of the missile launch system from the lock. Although the command did not provide for a real launch, an unauthorized rocket launch took place.

    Источник в украинских силовых структурах рассказал РИА Новости, что «17 июля командиру 156-го зенитного ракетного полка было предписано провести тренировку боевых расчётов по прикрытию наземной группировки войск в пригороде Донецка». Они должны были развернуть дивизионы, отработать проводку целей и выполнить весь алгоритм по сопровождению и условному уничтожению целей ракетой ЗРК «Бук-М1».

    He noted that командиры батарей получили разблокировочные ключи на пуск ракет, однако реальный запуск ракеты 9М38М1 не предусматривался.

    «Для участия в тренировке в Днепропетровск с авиабазы Кульбакино 229 бригады тактической авиации в Николаеве были направлены два самолёта Су-25. Перед ними была поставлена задача провести воздушную разведку и обозначить контрольные цели в районе сосредоточения группировки АТО к западу от Донецка», - заявил агентству собеседник.

    После того, как один из Су-25 вошёл в зону обнаружения ЗРК «Бук», он взял ракетный комплекс на сопровождение боевым расчётом батареи, которая находилась у населённого пункта Зарощенское.

    «По всей видимости, по трагической случайности через какое-то время маршруты полётов малайзийского Boeing и Су-25, несмотря на разницу в эшелонах, совпали, слившись на экране в одну крупную точку, что стало фатальным для гражданского борта – в момент схождения целей на одном азимуте система сопровождения автоматически перестраивается на ведение той, которая имеет наибольшую площадь», - рассказал источник.

    По словам собеседника агентства, он не знает, почему произошёл несанкционированный пуск ракеты. «Этим вопросом занимаются сотрудники СБУ, которые около половины десятого вечера забрали командира батареи с экипажем», - заключил он.

    Оригинал статьи: http://russian.rt.com/article/42405#ixzz38SaEBACb
    1. 0
      25 July 2014 11: 01
      Quote: smoker
      «По всей видимости, по трагической случайности ...

      По всей видимости , третий и последний рубеж обороны ВС Украйны , с неё никто уже не уйдёт .
      А спутник и три АВАКСа в воздухе над ближней Европой это просто Случайная случайность , Украйна це ж Европа , а там таких случайностей ...

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