"Roskosmos" is not threatened by sanctions, but by private American companies

The West has long been discussing various options for toughening sanctions against Russia because of the crisis in Ukraine. So far, only the United States has gone for the introduction of sanctions, which are not limited to the sanctions lists against officials and heads of state-owned companies. Apparently, the incident with the Malaysian Boeing will be the starting point for toughening sanctions from the US and the EU. Currently, in the tragedy that has happened, the West, though indirectly, blames Russia. In this case, the rhetoric of the leaders of European countries is becoming tougher. On July 23, it was reported that German Chancellor Angela Merkel was in favor of toughening sanctions against Russia.

Against this background, disputes continue in Russia about how detrimental restrictive measures for one or another sector of the economy can turn out for our country and what consequences this may have. Igor Komarov, Director General of the United Space Rocket and Space Control Complex (United Rocket and Space Corporation), talking to Kommersant journalists, noted that if the United States refused to buy Russian RD-180 rocket engines for Atlas V missiles, Energomash’s products could be unclaimed in the domestic Russian market.

It is worth noting that this rocket engine was originally developed in our country for the American Atlas missiles. According to the executive director of NPO Energomash, Vladimir Solntsev, when the Americans realized that it was very expensive to solve all space tasks using space shuttles, they decided to create cheaper and simpler disposable rockets. So, for their new Delta IV rocket, they created the engine themselves, but for the Atlas family of rockets, they ordered the engine from the Glushko Scientific and Production Association Energomash. According to the technical project, a completely new engine was created at the Russian enterprise - the RD-180 with the 400 ton burden. This engine along with the Russian weapons can be safely attributed to the samples of the most high-tech Russian exports.

"Roskosmos" is not threatened by sanctions, but by private American companies

The final choice in favor of the Russian rocket engine for the first stage of the Atlas V rocket was made on the basis of the results of the competition. The winner was precisely the RD-180, which had the most advanced technical characteristics. The engines have proven their high reliability, as confirmed by the 46 successful launches of the Atlas V rocket, the last of which took place on 22 in May of 2014. At one time, all necessary permits were obtained for interaction with American partners in the development of rocket technology by the Energomash enterprise.

Moreover, not so long ago, an American court imposed a restriction on the acquisition of these rocket engines. Igor Komarov told what kind of arguments, when making this decision, the court was guided. According to him, it was connected not so much with the foreign policy situation in the world, the position of the State Department or the sanctions against Russian officials, but with the position of a private American company SpaceX. This company over the past few years has managed to achieve significant success in space. A private company sued Lockheed Martin Corporation and the United States Air Force, accusing them of acquiring engines from the Russian company Energomash, and the proceeds from their sale go to individuals included in the State Department's sanction lists. At the same time, the head of the ORCC explained that the SpaceX company was referring to Russian Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin.

During the week lawyers in court had to prove the fact that NPO Energomash is a state-owned company, and funds from the sale of its products cannot be received by individuals. As a result of 8 in May 2014, restrictions on the Russian company were completely removed. After that, the American partners expressed interest in further cooperation and the purchase of Russian engines in the future. At the same time, Komarov noted that it is not worth excluding the political factor and its influence from these relations.

According to Komarov, because of the uncertain political situation and possible sanctions, some space projects are under threat. For example, the acquisition of Zenit missiles from Yuzhmash from Dnepropetrovsk. These two-stage medium-class launch vehicles are produced in Ukraine, with 70% of component missiles produced in Russia at NPO Energomash and RSC Energia. Igor Komarov noted that deliveries from the Yuzhmash enterprise under previously concluded contracts continue to be carried out, as such, there is no break in relations now. Komarov explained that the manager, who is responsible for the implementation of these Russian-Ukrainian contracts, should correctly evaluate their implementation in terms of the occurrence of possible risks. It is necessary to assess the future of this project in order to understand how our Ukrainian partners are able to fulfill their obligations.

Under the conditions of possible sanctions, ORKK leadership is forced to revise the strategy of cooperation not only with Ukrainian enterprises, but also with all Russian foreign partners. According to Komarov, not one and not two countries are participating in cooperation today - today not a single state produces fully the entire required product range for creating space products. “I believe that the geography of supplies that currently come from America will change in the next few years. And if the sanctions continue and increase, the geography of supply will undergo major changes. At the same time, not only our country is interested in the stable and normal implementation of existing projects, ”said the head of the URQM. According to Igor Komarov, at present the Russian Federation has to work out a strategy of interaction with our partners, which would determine the work on 15-20 years in advance.

For example, at present, more than 70% of all radiation-resistant elements of the electron-component base of domestic satellites are produced in America. After Washington accepted a ban on the supply of components in Russia, the ORCC immediately had to face a number of problems. Igor Komarov believes that in the short term, such bans can create certain problems for us, but now we are modifying a number of elements and resolving the issue of import substitution in order to bring all already started projects to a logical conclusion. At the same time, in the long term, Russia will no longer have reasons to relax and hope that our foreign partners in the field of space exploration will continue to be ready to supply us with their products, and we will not be able to continue to pay attention to the need to develop innovative and key new technologies in our country. At the same time, Komarov did not specify where exactly Russia would buy the necessary chips at the present time.

The Ukrainian political crisis, which escalated into full-fledged hostilities in the east of the country, as well as the increased tension between Washington and Moscow, threaten Russian-American cooperation in space, which had not been previously interrupted even during the Cold War. At the same time, many political decisions today are tied to the interests of space corporations from the United States, primarily with commercial interests. In particular, after the States imposed a ban on the delivery of American-made spacecraft to the Russian Federation, as well as those in which the US-made components are used, some European projects were automatically banned. For example, the Turkish satellite Turksat 4B or Astra 2G is the telecommunications spacecraft of the Luxembourg company SAS.

Against this background, the statement by Russian Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin about the possibility of stopping the supply of RD-180 rocket engines for military launches forced the US Congressmen to send additional funds to create their own rocket engines. In addition, the competition between SpaceX and the United Launch Alliance Corporation (ULA), which has an exclusive contract with the Pentagon to launch Atlas missiles, has intensified. The rivalry resulted in the same court decision to ban the purchase of Russian engines RD-180, which, however, was withdrawn.

At the same time, the Russian threat voiced by the refusal of American delivery to the ISS using the Soyuz spacecraft most likely prompted the private company, SpaceX, to speed up work on the reusable Dragon V2 manned spacecraft, which has already been presented to the general public. It is assumed that this device already in 2016 year will be able to take over the functions of the delivery of American astronauts to orbit.

At present, the Russian Soyuz spacecraft is the only available means of delivering astronauts onboard the ISS. In 2013, the United States and Russia signed a contract for a total amount of 424 million dollars. According to this contract, Roscosmos undertakes to deliver teams of astronauts from 6 to the ISS and back to Earth before June of the 2017 year. The previous contract, which was concluded in the 2011 year, cost the American side even more expensive - more than 753 million dollars. At the same time, the United States simply does not have its own means of delivering astronauts to the ISS.

A high-ranking source of the Kommersant publication in the Russian government does not exclude the possibility that, by imposing sanctions on our country, NASA expects to receive the consent of Congress to increase the amount of agency funding. In 2015, 848 million dollars should be allocated for the resumption of commercial launches; however, after the announcement of the termination of cooperation with Russia, the agency expects to receive another 171 million dollars. It was this amount that reduced the budget of the American Space Agency in the 2014 fiscal year.

The competitor of the Russian Soyuz, the new reusable transport vehicle Dragon V2, was recently officially announced by SpaceX. The novelty was represented personally by the head of the company Elon Musk. According to him, the new ship will be able to land at any place on our planet with the accuracy of an ordinary helicopter. At the same time, his capsule will be able to accommodate up to 7 astronauts, the device will be able to be in orbit for several days. Musk also said that SuperDraco engines used on it are capable of producing 7,2 tons of traction.

The spacecraft Dragon V2 is able to dock automatically to the board of the ISS. He does not need to use a robotic arm, as it was on the first Dragon Slot, which could not dock without it. At the same time, the insides of the Dragon V2 are extremely simple and not cluttered with unnecessary equipment. On the walls of the device are monitors with a large diagonal and intuitive interface. The device is the development of its predecessor, who has already managed to make 3 flight to the ISS, starting in October 2012. Earlier, NASA hoped that the new model would fly in the 2017 or 2018 year, but the situation in the world could speed up these deadlines.

At the same time, the US State Department assures that they expect to maintain cooperation with Russia in the space sector, especially on the ISS project. "We have a long story cooperation in space. And we hope that it will continue. We are still continuing to cooperate in a number of areas, ”Jen Psaki noted in mid-May.

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  1. +11
    24 July 2014 09: 02
    Dragon V2 will fly sooner or later anyway! Therefore, we must seize the moment and raise prices for the United States on the RD-180 and seats in the Soyuz! And the money should be spent on the development of domestic radiation-resistant elements of the electronic component base! hi
    1. -1
      25 July 2014 00: 01
      so it does not fly by itself - the carrier is needed this way and that.
      1. White
        13 August 2014 21: 33
        Space has its own Falcon 9 rocket and, interestingly, they began to work out the return of the first stage at the last two launches.
  2. +10
    24 July 2014 09: 11
    "... At the same time, Komarov did not specify exactly where Russia will purchase the necessary microcircuits at the present time."
    I doubt that anyone will sell microcircuits of this class, we have to do it ourselves, otherwise the entire consumer society is flourishing, the thought "where to buy"
    1. +6
      24 July 2014 09: 28
      Quote: saag
      I doubt that anyone will sell microcircuits of this class, we have to do it ourselves, otherwise the entire consumer society is flourishing, the thought "where to buy"

      Do you think that they do not understand this at Roskosmos? Between NADO and MADE a huge gulf which is extremely difficult to overcome. Especially in our realities.
      1. 0
        24 July 2014 11: 28
        Quote: Nayhas
        Do you think that they do not understand this at Roskosmos? Between NADO and MADE a huge gulf which is extremely difficult to overcome. Especially in our realities.

        But they do it, there is simply no desire, there will be no money left for kickbacks.
      2. 0
        24 July 2014 12: 24
        Everything can be done, there would be a desire and a will. The Soviet Union during its formation was much more difficult.
    2. -1
      24 July 2014 11: 09
      Quote: saag
      "... At the same time, Komarov did not specify exactly where Russia will purchase the necessary microcircuits at the present time."

      I don’t think that this is such a serious problem, quite a few companies in the world produce radiation-resistant electronics, those who are looking for will find it.
  3. +6
    24 July 2014 09: 16
    Roscosmos, first of all, is threatened by the lack of promising developments and plans. Resting on our laurels is never endless.
    1. avt
      24 July 2014 09: 46
      Quote: Mikhail M
      Roscosmos, first of all, is threatened by the lack of promising developments and plans

      First of all, Roskosmos is constantly threatened by the planting of effective top managers - process optimizers and the absence of people who sincerely want, like their "soviet" predecessors, to engage in large-scale tasks of space exploration. Hence all this mouse fuss with corporatization and other "optimization". fundamentally new in this "private" amersky "Dragon"? Yesterday, which Chelomey had been developing for decades for 500 years, and even suggested that the RDG be thrown into any corner of the Earth with its help. Yes, bring at least "Lapot" on the modern material and technical base to a flying state - they will piss boiling water with delight about the technology of the 22nd century ...
      1. White
        13 August 2014 21: 38
        Yesterday, which Chelomei still ...

        This is one of the favorite arguments of the fans of Rosskosmos - that's just it for people who do not know anything in space, the advanced project of Rosskosmos PTK-NP has exactly this concept. And now the only question is who will be the first. And at the expense of innovations, the USA is, for example, the X-37
  4. +3
    24 July 2014 09: 31
    If we had even one oligarch like Elon Mask, he would have forgiven any crimes ... But unfortunately ...
  5. evgenij1840
    24 July 2014 09: 39
    Russian space needs a new Korolev! With ambitious ideas that both the state and the oligarchs will like. And who will finance the space industry, there will always be ...
    1. +2
      24 July 2014 20: 28
      Quote: evgenij1840
      Russian space needs a new Korolev! With ambitious ideas that both the state and the oligarchs will like. And who will finance the space industry, there will always be ...

      Almost so. A person like Korolev is definitely needed.
      How will the state like it? Maybe.
      As for the oligarch, he will be extremely pessimistic.
      The nouveau riche and other oligarchs are extremely important in the speed of capital turnover, and in the space industry money circulates very slowly. This is due to the long period of creation of the final product.
      It takes two years to build the Soyuz spacecraft, and even more to build a space station module.
      Of course, some of the time could be reduced with sufficient funding, but again "where is the money Zin". Taking out a loan from a commercial bank is very expensive because of the extortionate interest, which again falls on the cost of the final product.
      The only way out is when the state will purposefully finance at a low interest rate or no interest at all. But with our "effective managers am , the time for passing the trenches will be extremely long (each such "smart guy" will want to twist them a little, make a gesheft) and it will be difficult to guess when the money allocated for the production of space products to pay suppliers for components and materials will appear on the company's account.
      Now, if the persons involved were responsible for the delay and misuse of the funds and regardless of past merits was a personal responsibility, then one would hope that everything works for us.
  6. +2
    24 July 2014 10: 03
    You want, but I do not believe in reusability at the current level of development of space technology. Reusability is the flip side of insecurity and the Shuttle proved it 100%.
    A device with a 5-10% margin of safety, stability, etc. cannot be reliable. Namely, such design standards are present in astronautics. The loads on the device are huge and everything can reliably work only once.
    Next will be roulette ...
    As a result, with the Dragon, everything will end, like with the Shuttle, endless replacement of equipment and expensive preventive maintenance. Just to prevent a malfunction in operation. And it will come out at even greater cost.
    After all, the Shuttle was also originally planned to be reusable and cheap, and everything turned out to be billions per launch.
    1. +1
      24 July 2014 10: 42
      I think Dragon will have a replacement heat shield, the rest does not experience such a load
      1. 0
        24 July 2014 13: 35
        Do you want to say LRE will have an unlimited resource? It’s not even a jet engine.
        Its resource is even less, and this is one of the most expensive components of the design.
        How can a structure launched and lowered from orbit, with accelerations of several G, not be tested?
        1. 0
          24 July 2014 17: 53
          I meant thermal loads, the engine is generally designed for temperatures below 4000 degrees, and overloads do not weaken the design
    2. +2
      24 July 2014 20: 52
      Quote: bootlegger
      You want, but I do not believe in reusability at the current level of development of space technology. Reusability is the flip side of insecurity and the Shuttle proved it 100%.

      Not necessarily. "Shuttle" is not an indicator. If you change the layout and put the ship on top, such as "Union" and others, then one disaster would not have happened, this is the case with Colombia "in 2003
      The second disaster, and the first according to the calendar (in 1986, the Challenger), occurred due to the fact that there was administrative pressure on the launch calculations (a ban on launching at negative air temperatures). Because of the intersection seals that were chilled in the frost, burnout occurred, a jet of fire from the accelerator hit directly into the hydrogen tank, which led to an explosion. Maybe if it were not for the direction of the flame into the tank, but on the side, nothing would have happened, there might not have been additional acceleration, but this is no longer so critical, when separating, the Challenger could either return to its airfield at Cape Canaveral or to a spare, like amers had three.
      The shuttle program itself was ruined by the high cost of launch. The program was calculated that at least 28 flights will be performed per year (break-even threshold) and therefore the entire infrastructure was calculated from this, and with a small number of launches (average 4,5 per year), all redundancy fell on each launch, which turned out to be extremely expensive (more than $ 240 million) for each launch. For comparison, the cost of launching Soyuz is $ 70 million in 2013.
  7. +2
    24 July 2014 10: 20
    The devices have already been made on Chinese microcircuits ... Therefore, "our" satellites serve several times less than "theirs" ...
  8. 0
    24 July 2014 11: 02
    American ship Dragon V2 is the same bubble as shale gas !!! Look at the YouTube demo video about this ship! On board fuel for braking in dense layers of the atmosphere using jet jets. Question: what is the efficiency of this ship? Now the coolest result is 3%. And Dragon V2 is probably less! Who is literate in astronautics, comment or correct me!
    1. +1
      24 July 2014 20: 59
      There is a forum "News of Cosmonautics" where experts put everything on the shelves. smile
      Dragon V2 can and will fly, but its seven-seater and reusability is a big question, as they say "cut the sturgeon". laughing
  9. +2
    24 July 2014 11: 15
    Roscosmos is not threatened by sanctions or private American companies, but by "effective" managers and "cowardly" designers. The power engineering of rocket technologies was fully implemented in the 60s of the last century. It is not for nothing that they still fly on those engines and their minor modifications (the first stage RD-253 engine for the Proton launch vehicle, which was put into service back in 1965, is so perfect that it has not been surpassed by anyone until now). And this is the ceiling of their capabilities. The shuttle and other super-heavy missiles were closed as extremely ineffective (also happened with Titan 4 (B / Centaurus), Energiya), which is a sign of the exhaustion of the technology's capabilities.

    Only new rocket technologies will make a quantum leap in the cost of removing the payload from the Earth. This is an air start, an electromagnetic gun, laser pumping, cable systems, etc. Unfortunately, nothing is heard about real work and research.

    PS About Dragon V2. I do not believe. So far, something is advertising. Think about how much the engines weigh for its vertical landing? After all, they must be dragged into space, and this is minus the payload and economic efficiency. In an Internet only some kind of muddy characteristics.
    1. 0
      24 July 2014 11: 25
      Quote: srha
      electromagnetic gun

      it’s good to use it on the moon - there is no atmosphere, gravity is six times less, respectively, energy consumption
      1. +1
        24 July 2014 21: 01
        Did you take into account the acceleration? There will be overload from the "gun" by a man under 200G, no brains can stand it, though the pate is probably convenient to make laughing
    2. 0
      24 July 2014 12: 46
      "Unfortunately, nothing has been heard about real work and research." I suppose - since "it is not heard", it means they are working, but "skerry".
    3. 0
      25 July 2014 00: 08
      As for the vertical landing, I completely agree. As an example, you can take aircraft with vertical take-off / landing. Fuel consumption is colossal, and what is the result? Short range. They like, suggest to carry the fuel tank additionally?)
  10. +2
    24 July 2014 12: 15
    Forward Ilon! Show the world what you can and what a private company can do for half the price and with the number of employees hundreds of times less.
    1. +2
      24 July 2014 21: 07
      Do not believe about the private owner, without government support he would not have succeeded, he did not even have to build ground infrastructure, so after the shuttles he altered it a bit. Again, the state guarantees him a part of the launches with its own load, and this is not small money. He would not even aim to be a pure private trader, too long and expensive. Just imagine, the rocket went over the hill, it takes a long time and carefully to understand, to develop positive statistics, and this is all the time, but as they say, "Time is money"
  11. +3
    24 July 2014 13: 37
    !!! 7,2 tons of thrust you say? Like a helicopter anywhere, you say? This is me, about Dragon V2. Don't tell my tomatoes! I am begging you! Did you Americans rewrite the laws of gravitation or invented antigrav ?! Choi then smells of mischief, like super duper lasers from Star Wars. I'm not even talking about the possibility of vertical landing with jet thrust! No one has achieved fuel savings in this area, neither our Yaks, nor Harriers, I do not stutter about the "fantastic" F-35 !!! And these amateurs - from space, through dense layers on a heated apparatus, with SEVEN passengers, no visible fuel tanks, helicopter landing !!!!! Futurologists,! Do they take us all for the Papuans?
  12. +1
    24 July 2014 15: 04
    Dragon looks just like pipelats)))) but I think Americans have not yet invented the gravitsapu)))))))

    Somehow at VO I met a wonderful phrase - Americans are poker masters. So maybe all their news is another bluff in a thoughtful game ?????
    1. avt
      24 July 2014 16: 17
      Quote: JonnyT
      So maybe all their news is another bluff in a thoughtful game ?????

      Or maybe not . It's just that a private trader, by the way, into which our former Soviet "boxes" turn into corporatization, to pull the program for which the state machine worked, declaring it a state priority both in our country and in the USA, is still an impossible task for today. Confirmation of my words is the fate of our "Clipper" and "Rus", also effective managers in the conditions of an "all-regulating market" and "high-quality work from a private trader," trumpeted about possible future victories, sucking money from the budget, sorry - mastering it.
  13. -1
    24 July 2014 15: 08
    Our technology is time-tested, which means it is better than the American
    1. 0
      24 July 2014 15: 54
      Explain minus
  14. +1
    24 July 2014 16: 15
    Roscosmos is threatened by Roscosmos itself! There was information that the Phobos-M satellite, which was launched on July 19 with animals on board, does not respond to commands from the ground. He did not respond from the very beginning of the flight. Therefore, it fails to enter a stationary orbit. They write that space debris, which damaged the antenna, is to blame ... It's just that their fists are clenched from such news. If these are American spies, then let's catch them and try them in the Hall of Columns in Moscow, like Powers. And if they are saboteurs, then you can also remember examples from history. When the so-called "Industrial Party" was defeated in the USSR, the industry went ahead with leaps and bounds!
    1. 0
      24 July 2014 17: 55
      Well, how is it that, in the news they said that telemetry was coming from him, so the transmitting path and antenna were okay, something with the receiving part, again, Chinese electronics?
  15. +1
    24 July 2014 17: 42
    Why not Russia introduce dynamic (damage-adjusted) anti-sanction price adjustments that are transferred directly to the budget for unique products and technologies such as space, defense, nuclear power, and extraction / production tax rates? This would significantly shorten the aspirations of the same states! At least for all new renegotiable contracts. The next automatically changing% rates of anti-sanction amendments should be included in the force majeure of the introduction of the next sanctions.

    For example, for the same RD180 rocket engines supplied to the USA for launching military satellites, because complex speeches about a "trampoline" in the USA are hard to digest when translated from Russian. The phrase: "nothing personal, just business" - is perceived by the United States more traditionally! Those same "British Petroleum" with more than 25% of shares in "Rosneft" will receive a much smaller dividend from them!
  16. +2
    24 July 2014 20: 30
    Quote: Nayhas
    Quote: saag
    I doubt that anyone will sell microcircuits of this class, we have to do it ourselves, otherwise the entire consumer society is flourishing, the thought "where to buy"

    Do you think that they do not understand this at Roskosmos? Between NADO and MADE a huge gulf which is extremely difficult to overcome. Especially in our realities.

    At the beginning of WW2, there was a shortage of oil in the USSR. Stalin summoned the Minister of the Oil Industry, I think Borodin, and proposed to solve this problem as soon as possible. Borodin said it was impossible. Stalin said briefly: "There will be oil, there will be Borodin. There will be no oil, there will be no Borodin." After a short time, oil fields were found in Bashkiria. Can the GDP do this?
  17. -1
    24 July 2014 23: 05
    America is again to blame for the fact that our missiles do not fly!
    And if private American companies did not take up space, would we have everything in chocolate?
    Therefore, I agree with 1536 - "Roscosmos is threatened by Roscosmos itself!"
    There is no "authority" there, capable of building not only engineers - designers with subcontractors - manufacturers, but the whole country to solve this difficult problem. And when the last production capacities are on fire, no even a successful design solution will save this industry. Moreover, Rogozin.
    As for the continuation of cooperation with the Americans in space, we already have every reason to wean from the leading role in this field. And this article, as it is not sad, is a confirmation of this.
  18. 0
    28 July 2014 21: 56
    But I don’t like that each sharashka has its own departments for the invention of bicycles .. This is a squandering of forces, means and specialists. With the latter, the BIG problem is that the elderly die out, and the youth do not want to learn and do not learn.