On the shooting of the national film "28 Panfilov" already collected 20 million rubles

The Petersburg team "Libyan Palette", which decided without the participation of the state to make a film about the immortal feat of 28 Panfilov’s defenders of the capital of the USSR Moscow from the Nazi tanks In the winter of 1941, she announced that by today she had managed to collect more than 20 million rubles. This was reported by the information portal But.

The site cites the words of the film director Andrei Shalop, who said:

"We managed to overcome the high bar - 20 millions of 60 collected on the set of the film" 28 Panfilov. This is a huge amount, and the path to it was long and difficult. Work on the film is underway, and we are constantly looking for more and more new sources of funding, but the film was and remains a popular film. A unique project of the national assembly and an example of national unity in these difficult days for our and you stories».

The creators promise that it will be an "honest film about the heroes of the past."

Comments

[Oleg Sobol]

The creators promise that it will be an "honest film about the heroes of the past."
It's the most important!
Whatever happens, as with Bondarchuk's "Stalingrad" ...

[Alexei]

Quote: Oleg Sobol

promise that it will be an “honest film about the heroes of the past”

Something I’m starting to fear recently when they promise so.

[RBLip]

Quote: Alexej

Something I’m starting to fear recently when they promise so.

judging by the trailer (seen for a long time) it should turn out very, very, very. I want to premiere.

[Comrade Bender]

Unfortunately you are right. Although the feat of Soviet soldiers cannot be denigrated even with such art, the feat of 28 Panfilovites is the myth of the unscrupulous correspondent of Krasnaya Zvezda Koroteyev (in pursuit of propaganda material) and the literary secretary of Krasnaya Zvezda Krivitsky.

[Comrade Bender]

For those who are minus.

If anyone is interested, then I’m ready to send the materials by internal mail.
Once again, Panfilov fought heroically. But the myth of 28 has nothing to do with them. This is a pseudo-literary fiction.

[Netrocker]

And what do we now in Almaty to demolish the monument to the soldiers of 28 Panfilovites, forget about the hero Baurzhan Momyshuly, anathematize General Panfilov? !!! Type a, let's review the history of the Second World War ah ?! So what? And also cancel the holiday of February 23! Well, what else ?! after all, on February 23, our red-banner sailors clashed with the Germans and quickly disappeared from there ?! So what do you think?

The feat was !!! It was the Panfilov division formed in Alma-Ata that stopped the Germans near Moscow, and not some mythical Siberian regiments there! And no one gives a damn to people's memory!

[Punkt]

yes so-so-but let 28 Panfilovites remain — and without them there were enough of the same heroes, so to speak, reconciled that — let there be a collective image of the heroes embodied in these 28 guys

[diz1975]

Let it be a myth. But I suspect during the war there were many feats of both personal and collective, completely unknown to anyone.
I would like to see something like "They fought for their homeland."

[Comrade Bender]

Owls secretly.
Ex. No.1
Help Report
"About 28 Panfilov's men"
In November of the 1947 of the year, the Military Prosecutor's Office of the Kharkov garrison arrested and prosecuted for betraying his homeland citizen Ivan Dobrobabin.
The investigation materials established that, being at the front, Dobrobabin voluntarily surrendered to the Germans and in the spring of 1942 of the year he entered their service. He served as chief of police temporarily occupied by the Germans of the village of Perekop, Valkovsky district, Kharkov region. In March 1943, when the region was liberated from the Germans, Dobrobabin, as a traitor, was arrested by the Soviet authorities, but escaped from custody, again went to the Germans and again got a job in the German police, continuing active betrayal, arrests of Soviet citizens and the direct implementation of the forced sending of young people to hard labor in Germany.
Dobrobabin's guilt is fully established, and he himself confessed to the crimes. When Dobrobabin was arrested, a book about "28 Panfilov heroes" was found, and it turned out that he was one of the main participants in this heroic battle, for which he was awarded the title of Hero of the Soviet Union.
Interrogation of Dobrobabin established that in the Dubosekovo region he was indeed slightly wounded and captured by the Germans, but did not perform any feats, and everything written about him in the book about Panfilov heroes is untrue.
It was further established that in addition to Dobrobabin, Vasilyev Illarion Romanovich, Shemyakin Grigory Melentievich, Shadrin Ivan Demidovich and Kuzhebergenov Daniil Aleksandrovich, who are also listed on the 28 Panfilov’s who died in battle with German tanks, were still alive. Therefore, the need arose to investigate the very circumstances of the battle of the 28 guards from the Panfilov division that took place on November 16 of November 1941 at the Dubosekovo junction.
The investigation found:
For the first time, a message about the battle of the Panfilov's division guards appeared in the Krasnaya Zvezda newspaper on November 27, 1941.
The essay of the front-line correspondent Koroteev described the heroic battles of the Panfilov division guards with enemy tanks. In particular, it was reported about the battle of the 5th company of the N-regiment under the command of political instructor Diev with 54 German tanks, in which 18 enemy tanks were destroyed. It was said about the participants in the battle that "every one was killed, but the enemy was not allowed to pass."
On November 28, Krasnaya Zvezda published an editorial entitled "The Testament of the 28 Fallen Heroes." This article indicated that 29 Panfilov men fought with enemy tanks.

[Comrade Bender]

"Over fifty enemy tanks moved to the lines occupied by twenty-nine Soviet guardsmen from the Panfilov division ... Only one of twenty-nine was faint-hearted ... only one raised his hands up ... several guardsmen fired at the same time, without saying a word, without a command," into a coward and a traitor ... "
Further, the front line says that the remaining 28 guards destroyed 18 enemy tanks and ... "laid down their heads - all twenty-eight. They died, but did not let the enemy pass" ...
The editorial was written by Krivitsky, the literary secretary of the Red Star. The names of the guards who fought and died, both in the first and in the second article, were not indicated.
In 1942, in the newspaper "Krasnaya Zvezda" on January 22, Krivitsky published an essay under the heading "On 28 Fallen Heroes", in which he wrote in detail about the feat of 28 Panfilovites. In this essay, Krivitsky confidently, as an eyewitness or a person who heard the story of the participants in the battle, writes about the personal experiences and behavior of 28 guardsmen, for the first time calling their names:

The Gold Star of the Hero of the Soviet Union is awarded to one of five panfilovites, whom propaganda recorded in the list of the dead.
"Let the army and the country finally learn their proud names. In the trench there were: Klochkov Vasily Georgievich, Dobrobabin Ivan Evstafievich, Shepetkov Ivan Alekseevich, Kryuchkov Abram Ivanovich, Mitin Gavriil Stepanovich, Kasaev Alikbai, Petrenko Grigory Alekseevichikov, Esibulitovych Kisibulitovych Ivan Moiseevich, Shemyakin Grigory Mikhailovich, Dutov Petr Danilovich, Mitchenko Nikolay, Shapokov Dushankul, Konkin Grigory Efimovich, Shadrin Ivan Demidovich, Enko Nikolay, Emtsov Pyotr Kuzmich, Kuzhebergenov Daniil Aleksandrovich, Timofeev Dmitry Fomovich, Timofeyev Dmitry Fomovich Romanovich, Nikolay Bolotov, Bezrodny Grigory, Sengirbaev Mustafa, Maximov Nikolay, Ananiev Nikolay ... "
Further, Krivitsky dwells on the circumstances of the death of 28 Panfilov’s:
"... The battle lasted more than four hours. Already fourteen tanks froze motionless on the battlefield. Sergeant Dobrobabin has already been killed, soldier Shemyakin has been killed ...,

[balyaba]

All this is great Comrade. Bender, we must keep in mind that the history of any state is mythologized. It simply cannot be otherwise, because it cannot be. The only question is whether the history of the Fatherland is mythologized from patriotic positions or vice versa? Open any modern textbook of Russian history ... Ivan IV - a bloody tyrant: AAA !!! Backward Russia lost the Crimean War: AAAA !!! Mediocre generals lost the Russo-Japanese War: AAAA !!! There are no examples to consider. Maybe it's time to stop yelling, huh?

[Comrade Bender]

It's time to stop yelling. You're right. It's time to start writing the truth.

[Homo]

Quote: Comrade Bender

It's time to stop yelling. You're right. It's time to start writing the truth.

Watch the movie Die Hard. You are a copy of a journalist from the film - people should know the truth and don't care about everything else. And I am the "one and only" who brings the truth to people, the rest are liars and dishonest people, unworthy to write books and make films. So what? Megalomania or phobia?

[Buran]

Is this also not true?

You are not Bender, you are Svanidze ...

[cyberhanter]

I can not judge the topic of 28 Panfilov’s, but at least the feats in our country are enough to invent myif. myth, do not lag behind, but prove that he is not a myth

[Kerzhak]

The only truth is that not everyone died. By the way, that there were 29, not 28, they were told to us at school: the 29th was scared and betrayed.
But the baseness of one does not cross out the feat of the others.
Tanks didn’t pass.

[Comrade Bender]

They were not 29, but a company, 5-I company 1075 infantry regiment. And they fought heroically. And the tanks did not really miss, despite the very large losses.

[Aleks tv]

Quote: Comrade Bender

5 Company

It was the 4th company of the 2th battalion.
It was she who formed the basis of the 28 Panfilov LEGENDS.
They accomplished the impossible in martial art - the entire division.

A LEGEND - must be respected.
Honor how bylina and be proud of this story, and not clear it with any clever words.
No offense, Konstantin.

[Comrade Bender]

Many thanks to everyone with whom I corresponded in search of truth. Special thanks to Sunjar for the link. I am an opponent of myths and have always tried to scrupulously relate to documents about the Second World War. However, I agree that LEGENDS must not only be honored, but also supported in every way.
I join in the fact that the book "Volokolamskoe Shosse" is also very informative for completeness of views on those battles.
Thanks again to everyone!

[mark7]

Quote: Comrade Bender

Thanks again to everyone

And, I completely agree with you, power is always in the truth, and people should know it

[chenia]

The feat was, for this you need to have some military education and read several books about it.
But first, analyze this fact - Klochkov was the commander of the anti-tank unit of the 2nd battalion (a team of tank destroyers). Find the orders of Bet and 16A on this score (team building) and analyze the conversation between Momysh-Ula and Panfilov (the creation of such a unit based on a regular platoon, which surprised Panfilov).

From here all the tanks marching to the 2nd battalion. the first one took Klochkov and he had 4 PTRs (and forget about 4 and 5 companies.) Klochkov had the color of the 2nd battalion (see the order how these teams were formed and naturally common sense). And at the same time find out how many awards Klochkov had. Digest, I will explain further.

[Skvor]

Hello. My opinion is that it was not so important whether this feat was. Even if it is a myth, it is a correct myth. It is very important to create the right background for the education of youth. And this is much better than raising them on Captain America. Epics and legends in Russia have always been used to educate worthy descendants.

[suomi76]

No, it’s not necessary to honor the tales of the political administration, unless of course you want the New Svanidze to come out in 50 years and begin to make fun of the scoop.
The history of the Navy is very close to me, in 1942 the "Aleksadr Sibiryakov" fought the pocket battleship "Scheer". This is a real feat of Soviet sailors, worthy of being immortalized.
And the tales of political leaders and journalists to hell. I participated in the elections during military service. The personnel officer gathered us and said, guys, the government will buy a new tractor, you won’t remove snow. It was 1995, he campaigned for the NDR. I have no doubt that, if necessary, he composed the heroes.

[max73]

comrade, there is no need to argue with minus odious figures ... because they did not read "Volokolamskoe Shosse", nor non-fiction literature .... but the Panfilovites fought heroically, indeed. The 316th Rifle Division closed the huge front line after encircling the troops of the Western and Reserve Fronts. and the fact that at times it was assigned 5 regiments of artillery of the RGK at a time indicates the importance of the Volokolamsk direction in the defense of Moscow

[Comrade Bender]

Thanks for the support.

[Comrade Bender]

You are absolutely right. And although the feat of Soviet soldiers, nothing and no one can discredit, even "honest films about the heroes of the past." But, unfortunately, the feat of 28 Panfilovites is a myth invented by an unscrupulous correspondent and literary secretary of the "Krasnaya Zvezda" in pursuit of propaganda material.
If anyone is interested, then I’m ready to send the materials by internal mail.
Once again, Panfilov fought heroically. But the myth of 28 has nothing to do with them. This is a pseudo-literary fiction.

[RBLip]

Mr. Bender.
and all that you write correctly. and it seems all this is known. that's just ... for me personally, 28 Panfilovites are the personification of what the Grandfathers did. how is it there? "the country must have heroes." What do you think it is better for me to do to foster patriotism in my ten-year-old son - to read your text, or to reduce to such a movie? and can put a penal battalion? Pushcha, like the entire "Pepsi generation", thinks that the Patriotic War was won by criminals riding on hummers? and that there was neither Sevastopol, nor a political instructor with immortal words, all this is Stalin's propaganda ...

[Comrade Bender]

Mr. RBLip:
I do not call for shooting films about the penal battalion on hummers. The show about the penal battalion is a sheer lie, like the movie "Bastards", which only bastards could have made. There was no political leader. He was simply not physically present. There are a lot of truthful books and documents about the feat of Sevastopol and Stalingrad. And you need to make films based on them. I'm just for the truth. And how will your son react to the truth, which will come out over time, about the fact that the Gold Star of the Hero was awarded twice to a traitor and an accomplice of the Nazis?
Maybe it’s better to immediately explain to him the reason for the appearance of such a myth?

[Rblipetsk]

Quote: Comrade Bender

About the exploit of Sevastopol and Stalingrad there are many truthful books and documents. And you need to make films on them. I am only for the truth. And how will your son react to the truth, which will come out anyway over time, about the fact that the traitor and accomplice of the fascists was awarded the Gold Star of the Hero twice?

some truth is worse than the most shitty lie ... there was no political officer, say ... and those thousands and thousands who went to the ground under the command - the first communists and Komsomol members (not a communist and not sympathizing)? for me he is the personification, the quintessence of all that was good. Stalingrad and Sevastopol, Smolensk and Leningrad, do not shoot. Do you know why the junction Dubosekovo and Panfilov? I think because they are the personification of the Patriot for many generations. and as for the son ... he will grow up, he will figure out where is good and where is evil. but the seeds of this good, love of the motherland, patriotism, I must lay. as I can and how I can. and I think such a film will be another weight with a plus sign on the scales of a Russian person ...

[Comrade Bender]

Yes, I agree with you regarding the upbringing of patriotism. But Talalikhin was not the first to commit a ram, just as Matrosov was not the first to lay down on the embrasure. However, the country found out about them. And from this their feats did not become less. It was just that the country needed heroes exactly when they were needed. Advocating heroic deeds was simply necessary to raise morale. And the fact that due to the negligence (if not worse) of the correspondent and the secretary of the newspaper became an open traitor to the Motherland or other soldiers who did not take part in this battle, you can’t explain the propaganda. And I am only against this. After all, the Panfilov’s themselves showed no less heroism, ordinary soldiers, about the exploits of which no one would already know. Maybe it’s better to make a movie about them?

[huut]

Quote: RBLipetsk

and as for the son ... grow up, he will figure out where is good and where is evil

Will not understand, if "Comrades Bendery" to plug their mouths. Should we ignore the historical truth under the guise of patriotic education? That way, we will repeat the previous mistakes later, forgetting (hiding) that we have already made them once.
Here the historical falsification must be eradicated and ruthlessly persecuted, and choosing the right truth and throwing out the objectionable is fraught with exaggerated patriotism, where there is nothing behind the words.

[Rblipetsk]

Quote: huut

Here the historical falsification must be eradicated and ruthlessly persecuted, and choosing the right truth and throwing out the objectionable is fraught with exaggerated patriotism, where there is nothing behind the words.

pancake. how to explain that ... there is a wonderful film - "aty-baty ..." is it completely historically true? horseradish. fosters patriotism? And how. Does pride in belonging to the heroes of the film (well, I'm also Soviet-Russian) arise? arises. and with the Panfilovites. now the reverse process. penal battalion (cinema, damn it, new wave). about war? about her. are there any feats? is. fosters patriotism? Nuuu, if only Svidomo ... and if from the other side ... there were cases during the war when the soldiers had nothing to eat, nothing to shoot, priests in the attack, companies for machine guns, criminals in the army, the NKVDs were bastards, etc. .? of course there were. but in this "film" everything is so collected that it makes me want to watch ...
I’m all about the fact that the truth is really different.

[Comrade Bender]

Forced to disagree with some of the facts you cited.
-Fines and penal companies were and it was a necessary necessity. But these were military units with a clear structure and full-time commanders from the platoon commander. And they did not shoot at them from behind detachments, which had completely different functions, and they attacked themselves quite often.
- There’s nothing to shoot from, it wasn’t. All units were armed according to the state (except for the militia).
-But on the attack went. Maybe they did, no one kept such records, but only if they were called up or volunteered. Strictly according to the documents and in accordance with the charters. If this is not a partisan detachment.
- There were criminals in the army, they were given the opportunity to atone for their guilt with blood. But only those who had short terms, in accordance with strictly defined articles and in no case are repeat offenders.
-NKVDshniki (i.e. osobisty, SMERSH) were. You can’t do without scum and you’re right that in this series heaped everything together, presenting it for the truth.

[Rblipetsk]

so I’m talking about. everything seems to be true, that's the only way ... it’s disgusting to look ... I’ve led to what. truth to truth - discord. by the way, so the Anglo-Saxons give the truth. it seems true, and there is a lot of information, but the output is a lie.

[Bayonet]

Quote: huut

Here the historical falsification must be eradicated and ruthlessly persecuted, and choosing the right truth and throwing out the objectionable is fraught with exaggerated patriotism, where there is nothing behind the words.

"Little lies, gives rise to great distrust!"

[Buran]

Well then, let's throw in the trash "The Cranes Are Flying", "The Story of a Real Man", "The Ballad of a Soldier", "Clear Sky" ... After all, according to your words, this is a continuous stream of lies and provocations, let's leave a truly honest, supposedly 90 x, and works by Fedka Bandorchuk and Nikitka (mad) Mikhailov. They won't cheat

[ordinary]

you are of course right, basically ... but it was at all times, absolutely at all times .. I mean the glorification of feats, or maybe not feats, well, you remember the American film "Pearl Harbor" ... that is the military event of the Second World War, where the valiant samurai were discharged .. well, if not by the first number, then certainly not by the last ... and what we see in the picture ..... the most valiant Americans got dyule, but the heroes were THEY! but our story is not entirely fictional!

[Juborg]

"They fought for their homeland", in your opinion, a bad film ?! There is no one day hero, and the events described are a combined hodgepodge. And I’ve seen it for the umpteenth time and never cease to be amazed at the reality of what is happening and the play of actors, and not actors (in principle, there are no second roles in it, there are all the first, from the people). You can shoot the truth, but who will go to the documentary ?! That's why it is a feature film, so that the author would make artistic changes to dry summaries of historical events. Stirlitz was not there, but does this make the picture look bad? Yogan Weiss, the same and nevertheless the picture is good. You can talk a lot about communist propaganda, socialist realism, which replaced true art, but do not forget, exactly the same realism was in the West and the United States, moreover, it took the form of outright grimace, and sanctimonious Russophobia. A lot has already been said about the excesses of today's war cinema, I want to note only one feature, as soon as a good project appears, truthful, honest, and most importantly Russian, some forces are connected, in the form of money wallets, and an initially sound script is rewritten on the go and a film for Russian they either turn into whitewashing of the enemy, a kind of fascist with a pure heart and conscience, or, on the contrary, push the repressive machine outward, to incredible proportions. Please tell me, well, if all the generals and officers, foremen and soldiers, were repressed, then who fought in Stalingrad, Leningrad, near Moscow, who won the war ?! Stalin and Zhukov alone defeated all !!! Let them shoot, but not a Russophobic semblance, but a real film for Russians and in the name of Russia, in the name of memory in front of our grandfathers, and not in the name of Hollywood consumer goods figurines and the approval of the Hamburg sausage man.

[Kerzhak]

I completely agree. If the film is shot according to Hollywood templates, then you get shit.

[hhhhhhh]

The myth is what was not.
Did the Germans take Moscow? No, they didn’t. So there was a feat. All reasoning as to whether 28 people could destroy so many tanks is simple bullshit. The main result. Yes, not really then, near Moscow there were a number of people.

[Kerzhak]

- So the tanks passed or not?
- The tanks did not pass and no matter how they (Panfilov’s) did it, as described in the article or otherwise. An article is a work of art.
Most likely it was like this: the journalist found out that the tanks did not pass, because he didn’t have any witnesses (he thought up artistically), but the tanks really didn’t pass. So someone knocked them out.

[Artist]

Nevertheless, I still want to believe ...

[Sunjar]

Quote: Alexej

Something I’m starting to fear recently when they promise so.

Do not worry. Everything is fine there. And Andrei Shalopa himself is a good man with a conscience. He was interviewed in the program "Anatomy of Betrayal", where he spoke a lot of very interesting things for honor, conscience, heroism. You can search the internet for what kind of person he is.

[volot-voin]

Quote: Oleg Sobol

Whatever happens, as with Bondarchuk's "Stalingrad" ..

I am not a fan of Bondarchuk, but in general I liked the film, I do not regret that I went to the movies (personal opinion).
To shoot about films about the war is urgent and necessary. It is necessary to shoot that it would be interesting to watch. I really hope for a decent movie.
I am glad that the Russian heroes have not gone extinct in our time, the defense of New Russia proves.

[Old Cynic]

I liked the film, I do not regret that I went to the movies (personal opinion).

Are you apparently a fan of computer technology, regardless of what is removed with their help?
And Fedya is a miserable likeness of his father. Truly, if nature rests on the children of geniuses, the children take their porn.

[volot-voin]

Quote: Old Cynic

Are you apparently a fan of computer technology, regardless of what is removed with their help?

Computer technology is a sign of the times, now without them it’s nowhere, otherwise we would have watched TVs in kind with a magnifying glass of the Central Bank.
In your opinion, it would be better not to shoot anything about the Second World War? Here Bondarchuk would not have shot this picture and there would have been no film. The selflessness and heroism of the soldiers of the Red Army is shown, without hope of survival, following the order restraining the enemy's forces (just like in Slavyansk, Gorlovka or other settlements of New Russia). A solid ideological commander, without a shadow of a doubt, shooting an alarmist, a soldier, the last survivor to open fire on himself, people inhabitants are hostages of the situation, German soldiers their inner world, behavior psychology. Yes, I can tell they are revealed quite truthfully. Honestly, when I looked, I didn’t even think about modern background music and computer technology. Well, whoever doesn’t like it, take it off better.

[Old Cynic]

In your opinion, it would be better not to shoot anything about the Second World War?

I did not say this - these are your speculations!

That Bondarchuk would not have shot this picture and there would be no film

Captain Evidence - I welcome you !!! Deep thought ... Deeper than the Mariana Trench.

The selflessness and heroism of the soldiers of the Red Army is shown, without hope of survival, following the order of restraining enemy forces

Whose order is fulfilling? AND?

Yes, I can tell they are revealed quite truthfully.

Did you live at that time ??? How old are you? 2014 - 1943 = 71. Let us add at least five years for development ... 76?

when I looked, I didn’t think

So this "movie" was made for you! Bald guessed right with the audience !!!!!

[Lord of the Sith]

Trailer "28 Panfilovites"

[nvv]

Lord I didn’t look. I'll wait for the premiere.

[leks]

The first sound of the explosion is very plausible, as you damn it, you notice, and you probably noticed how the fighter covered the barrel with the palm of his hand like a trifle but is striking !!!

[jjj]

Quote: leks

as a fighter with his palm covers the muzzle

This is not Shpagin, this is Degtyarev submachine gun

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Oleg Sobol

"An honest film about the heroes of the past."

An honest book about the war "Epiphany" by Ivan Akulov. Unfortunately, little known. I wish we could make another film on it.

[sergey261180]

Quote: Oleg Sobol

The creators promise that it will be “an honest film about the heroes of the past.” This is the most important thing!

So there, it seems, the history of bullshit itself was. Some journalist and editor of the newspaper invented her, then they began to sort it out, and already cut the back late — Zhukov had already awarded everyone (according to a newspaper publication ) In fact, there seemed to be a whole team standing and detaining the Germans for 4 hours.

[RBLip]

Quote: sergey261180

So there, it seems, the history of bullshit itself was. She was invented by some kind of journalist and newspaper editor, then they began to sort it out, and cut the back one too late - Zhukov had already awarded everyone (according to a newspaper publication). In fact, there seemed to be a whole team standing and detaining the Germans for 4 hours.

danced on the bones of grandfathers? get a minus.

[Llirik]

Fuflo - dear, this is not from that opera And here is a story about a feat. Was he or not, the tenth thing, the main thing is that our grandfathers and great-grandfathers at that time stood to death and won, even dying. This is what they make a movie about, and not about "bullshit", as you say.

[Vik.Tor]

It would not have happened to us, like ukrov, they forgot and rewrote their entire history, now they are reaping the benefits. You must not forget the history of your country, otherwise there will be no future!

[sergey261180]

Quote: Llyric

And here is a story about a feat. Was he or not, the tenth thing, the main thing is that our grandfathers and great-grandfathers at that time stood to death and won, even dying. This is what they make a movie about, and not about "bullshit", as you say.

And I care what the film is based on. I'm not going to watch this bullshit. For the first channel's repertoire, of course it will do. His audience just loves such a heroic "cranberry", especially if they themselves have not participated in anything like that.

[Llirik]

I also care. It was a feat, 28 man or team, 4 hours or 4-ro days, it seems to me when you die in a trench or somehow do not think about such things under a tank. The film is about a soldier, everything else is blah blah blah. The authors approach the filming and reliability issues quite responsibly. And to blame - it’s all great, it’s fashionable to scold everyone, but to support those who are really trying to do something - no, I’d better scold it from the outside ...
Why doesn’t anyone scold films about three hundred Spartans, when in fact there were about 3 thousand soldiers from different policies near Thermopylae?
28 Panfilovites are the Spartans of the Great Patriotic War, so that the debunkers of "heroic myths" do not speak there

[sergey261180]

Quote: Llyric

I also care.

Then let them show the truth, and put in an episode about the editor of the newspaper and Zhukov too! I think it won't hurt the artistic intention. And if not, then in 50-60 years (if anyone survives) these "Libyan palettes" will be filmed like "And Tolya are quiet here, or new adventures of the hero of the Russian Federation Serdyukov and his glorious women's battalion."

[Kerzhak]

And what is not bullshit? American film "Pearl Harbor" or "Saving Private Ryan"?

[nvv]

Sorry. One of the minuses is mine. I follow this. They will succeed.

[Aleks tv]

Quote: Comrade Bender

but the feat of 28 Panfilovites is the myth of the unscrupulous correspondent of the "Krasnaya Zvezda" Koroteev

This is LEGEND and not MYTH.
Feel the difference?
It’s just that almost no one was left alive ...
"28 Panfilovs" is like "300 Spartans", although there were also more than 300 of them ...

Quote: sergey261180

So there, it seems, the history of bullshit itself was.

Hmm ... so that's what they call the feat now?
Almost the entire 4th company was killed there. And each platoon of this company had its own "28 Panfilov men".
Do not throw words so easily.

I studied their history and my opinion remained the same:
http://topwar.ru/30791-a-my-dostoyny-gryzni-o-28-panfilovcah-.html

[Kerzhak]

Listen to you, so the whole Great Patriotic War is bullshit. But for some reason, a red flag is hoisted over Berlin, and not some striped one.

[aleks_29296]

Whatever happens, as with Bondarchuk's "Stalingrad" ...

The best films about that war were made by Soviet directors. Many of them, and the actors too, themselves went through the crucible of this war, and no one could better convey the state of mind and emotions of the people of that time. Unfortunately, modern films are just a miserable parody, with rare exceptions.

[Bayonet]

Quote: aleks_29296

The best films about that war were made by Soviet directors.

Especially post-war, where the Germans are shown complete fools. Only a thinking viewer has a question - but how did these fools reach the Volga?

[Matroskin 18]

Let our children be brought up in such films that show the lives of people in difficult conditions, where heroism is shown for the sake of their country, where the values ​​of those years are clearly visible: honor, duty, mutual assistance, self-sacrifice!
Worse, if young people get used to images of an easy life, to meanness for personal gain, where the only value is money!
Sometimes I talk with high school students, everything is simple with them: study is needed for the "crust", and not for knowledge, when you bring the concepts of "work" and "benefit to society" close together, they frown, they firmly believe that it is important to "kick the grandmother" into the army do not want for any "gingerbread", there are "hardships and hardships" ...
But this is all the result of education!

[Deadmen]

it was so publicized that I didn’t even look.

[Giant thought]

Hopefully, promises won't hang in the air.

[Patton5]

So it is necessary to call Alexander Kott, Igor Ugolnikov (Brest Fortress) And all these Mikhalkovs, Bondarchuk, Shakhnazarovs ... to the "furnace" of the Master B..T!

[Nitarius]

Still Admins account put them out ... I think that the people would have thrown ...
the main thing is that REALLY it was about PEOPLE ... and not BONDARCHUK'S TALES (in the head some mats go to mind)

[GRAMARI111]

Kazakh oligarchs could already fork over such a movie

[Sam-07]

as with Bondarchuk (memory of the bright Bondarchuk Sergei Fedorovich does not apply) will fail.

[armageddon]

Good deal !!! Long time ago the truth about the war was not removed ... !!!

[Vend]

Time will tell what happens. As they say, chickens in the fall count. It will be very disappointing if the film turns out unworthy.

[Rusik.S]

It’s important that neither Mikhalkov nor the Ministry of Culture intervene. I hope a great movie comes out

[MSA]

Cool, we have people boiling for any ...

[Aleks tv]

Good and necessary thing.
My daughter transferred the money herself.

I hope the film will be worthwhile.

[enot73]

Quote: Aleks tv

Good and necessary thing.
My daughter transferred the money herself.

It would be nice to have filmed the way it really was. And then, in fact, recently there have been many "revelations" such as: "This was not, because it could never have been," and the heroic deeds of the Soviet people are simply declared "Soviet propaganda."

[Vik.Tor]

It’s a good thing, but it can send this money to help Novorossia, help it alive, so as not to worry about what has not been done.

[nvv]

Still burr, not the kingdom of heaven to him, said "The most important of the arts is cinema" And to make it really popular, this is the task of this film group.

[Bayonet]

Quote: enot73

It’s good to be filmed the way it really was

In fact, it was not as they say ...

[enot73]

Quote: Bayonet

In fact, it was not as they say ...

They write that the infantry could not resist the tanks at all, but they do not write what kind of tanks the Germans had then. But the formidable "tigers", "panthers" and "elephants" did not exist at that time, but there were a lot of lungs: 35 (t), 38 (t), pzII, medium pzIIIs were less common. All of them were weakly armed and easily hit by anti-tank weapons, as well as grenades or KS. I fully admit that much more than 28 people died in this battle, but nevertheless, the tanks did not go to Moscow, this story did not arise from scratch.

[AstanaKZ]

Please give us your bank details and account number, I will send the money!

[Aleks tv]

Quote: AstanaKZ

bank details and account number, I will send money!

Ruslan - look here.
http://28panfilovcev.com/payments.php

[AstanaKZ]

Thank you!

[waisson]

I hope this will be a real film and not the bald Stalingrad which was created for the Euro-Amer audience and it played, he gladly goes to-Hollywood-

[Stypor23]

Quote: waisson

I hope this will be a real film and not the bald Stalingrad which was created for the Euro-Amer audience and it played, he gladly goes to-Hollywood-

Here we must add Mikhalkov, Burnt by the Sun. The theme for the Americans was chosen as very suitable, and as a result, an Oscar.

[enot73]

Quote: Stypor23

Here we must add Mikhalkov, Burnt by the Sun. The theme for the Americans was chosen as very suitable, and as a result, an Oscar.

Recent series. So it’s just not a movie at all, but a diagnosis.

[Stypor23]

Quote: enot73

Recent series. So it’s just not a movie at all, but a diagnosis.

The award for the first part was given, where there was a collision with the USSR. And what happened next was an iron hand, immediately 3 of the Evil Dead were remembered.

[net abortion]

An example is very important!

- why

-as Donbass during the Second World War and now
-direct parallel ...

South of Donetsk, Saur-Tomb-South Cauldron.

The militias cut the neck last night, but in the morning they were again pushed back from the border. They are going stubborn, I would say fierce battles. Strelkov threw in large forces to destroy the remnants of the junta troops in the western part of the boiler. In recent days, the militia have taken Dmitrovka and Dubrovka. The Tannery and Krasnaya Zarya pass from hand to hand. Artillery of the Militia inflicts artillery strikes on clusters of punitive forces outside the cauldron in the area of ​​Grogorovka and the Marinovka border crossing point.

At the same time, the situation is changing "imperceptibly" to the north and west of Amvrosievka, and possibly to the south. In fact, there is very little data here, but what has leaked suggests that the militia is gradually covering Amvrosiyevka. The militia is occupied by Blagodatnoye (Strelkov let it slip. When and what data is not available).

Relying on their positions, the DRG militias daily harass punishers in this direction. Today there were attacks on checkpoints in Amvrosievka and Starobeshevo.

Yesterday, the Grad missile launcher struck an unexpected blow at the command post of the Southern group of punishers in Solnechny. DRGs constantly attack on the Amvrosievka-Pobeda highway.

[sds555]

Video from the junta Su-25 aircraft shot down today, which fell on the territory of the militia.

[Russ69]

23.07.14/14/56. XNUMX:XNUMX A message from the militia with the callsign "Mole".

"We managed to regain control of Lisichansk. The fighters managed to destroy the batteries of the Ukrainian military, as a result of which the shelling of the city stopped. On the night of July 23 we attacked the positions of Ukrainian punishers in several directions. The enemy army suffered heavy losses in manpower and armored vehicles.
As a result of night battles, the forces of the Ukrainian army retreated from the city, but they withdrew not far. In addition, several units from Lugansk came to the aid of the militias. They replaced the detachment of Alexei Mozgovoy, whose forces had to withdraw due to a lack of armored vehicles to hold their positions. The battles for Severodonetsk have not stopped to this day. "

23.07.2014/14/41 XNUMX:XNUMX p.m. Message from LifeNews reporters.

"The militia reported two shot down attack aircraft of the Ukrainian Air Force. The parachute of one of the pilots was found, he managed to escape into the forest belt.
Two Ukrainian military aircraft were shot down from MANPADS after they attacked DPR militia positions in the area of ​​the Saur-Mogila hill east of Donetsk. LifeNews was told about this by the militia commander with the callsign "Cap".
- One plane was shot down in the area of ​​height "185", the other - in the area of ​​Dmitrovka. Both aircraft were shot down by MANPADS. One pilot landed in "greenery", the parachute was found, there is no pilot yet, - said the militia. Earlier, the militia reported that one Ukrainian plane was shot down. "

Lost two Su-25s, the junta confirmed. Sorry the pilot ran away ...

[sazhka4]

For the shooting of the (next) national film "28 Panfilov" has already collected 20 million rubles.
What remake in a row? Apparently other versions "the people" did not understand .. I can even guess "how" it will be shown ..

[Arh]

It's good to watch such films describing exploits !!! ***

[kirs]

Good, but where to get another 40 mil. rub.?

[Pro100Igor]

And where to send the money. I want to help too.

[sazhka4]

Quote: Pro100

And where to send the money. I want to help too.

Give it to your children. Or in mmm. Feel the difference.

[e_krendel]

http://28panfilovcev.com
I have already sent my "5 cents"

[fox21h]

Quote: Pro100

And where to send the money. I want to help too.

It’s better to send money to the militia, they will be more useful to them, especially since the site has their details, you do not need to look for a long time

[balyaba]

On the site however.ru is written

[Million]

something recently very few good war films have been shot.

[leks]

This film is called folk because it is entirely created with folk money, 60 million rubles is a small amount, and our ministry of culture squeezed this amount because this project will not pay for itself. Unfortunately, most likely it will be so. The Brest Fortress also did not pay for itself.
But why am I leading the fact that these films show and educate people in patriotism, these films show who fought and how and at what cost we achieved victory in the Great Patriotic War of 1941-1945.
Stalingrad was a mega project, money flowed on it, and the advertisement was so fabulous that money went on almost every channel for this reason, it paid for itself, and so I think it would be another failure of Bondarchuk.

[aleks_29296]

Stalingrad was a mega project, the flow of money swelled on him, and for the advertisement there was such a fabulous amount of money that advertising went on almost every channel for this reason he paid for himself

The Brest Fortress also did not pay for itself.

Only Brest Fortress is interesting to watch, but Bodarchuk did not make a film, but some Hollywood action movie.

[el.krokodil]

crap any business sitting on the couch with beer and chips a lot of mind is not necessary ..a to collect 60 lyamas and, with bare enthusiasm, to make a film about a piece of OUR HISTORY, is not indifferent and a great thing .. and this is relevant and important .. since our citizens vote in rubles in good faith, then this is NECESSARY! GOOD LUCK! I will also wait for the premiere of the film .

[Mountain shooter]

I know that a story about Panfilov’s was invented. So what. Few scripts you composed? It is important that this is about EXPERIENCE during the Second World War. The fact that the soldiers stood to death. They did not run, and did not raise their hands.

[Roman 1977]

"Ideal" script for a modern liberal war film
The commander of a front-line reconnaissance group goes to the tribunal because he was loved by the PJ of the head of the Special Department. (And before the war, the commander of the reconnaissance group and the head of the PO were cops, and the commander was brave, but he was set up, and the special officer was a coward, but the careerist also received a prize). The tribunal condemns the scout to be shot, but then the fascist paratroopers on motorcycles attack the headquarters, and the scout in pants and shirt turns the motorcycle over, rams, takes possession (with a German automatic) and kills all enemies. For this, the commander of the reconnaissance group decides not to shoot, but to send to the headquarters. In a penal battalion, a scout goes into reconnaissance, cuts with a Spanish grip, and explodes downhill.
Meanwhile, in the Kremlin in Moscow, Stalin and Beria are considering leaflets on which the captive son of the Leader, Yakov Dzhugashvili, drinks schnapps and urges everyone to give up. Stalin is gloomy, and with a terrible accent tells Beria that he, as a father, is very shameful and wants to kill his son for treason. But he himself will not go, the years are not the same. We must send a haroshego scout. Beria hesitates and says that there is a good scout. but he's in the penal battalion. Stalin orders the scout to be taken from the penal battalion.
The NKVD comes to the penal battalion, they call a scout, order him to hand over weapons, a belt, boots and cut off the buttons on his pants. Then the scout is pushed into the car. Everyone is sure that the main character will no longer be seen, but the viewer knows something!
The scout is taken to Moscow, and directly barefoot, with buttons cut off, lead to Comrade Stalin in the Moscow Kremlin. Comrade Stalin smokes a pipe and asks the scout if he has children. The protagonist sneers and looks through his teeth from under his breath: before the war, his bride was raped by the drunken commissioner of the NKVD and she drowned. Comrade Stalin wisely nods his head and says that the scout is happy - his bride just drowned, and his son became a traitor. A scout must assemble a group of special special forces soldiers, penetrate the German rear, and kill Jacob. For this, the scout will be forgiven and awarded with the Hero of the Soviet Union. The scout agrees and begins to assemble a special forces group.

[Roman 1977]

The group consists of five people. Former prisoner - specialist in locks and knives. Gypsy is a specialist in horses and penetration into objects protected by dogs. The intellectual is a specialist in German and his father was repressed. A Chechen is a specialist in courage. And the Siberian national man is a specialist in rifle and soaking jokes of humor with an emphasis and a face. The group trains, throws vodka, goes to the village to get fucked because all the men are at the front, beats the special officer assigned to them and learns to dance Lezghin because the Chechen becomes an informal leader, but respects the commander.
Finally, everyone gets on a plane and fly to Germany. A German fighter is flying over Germany to an airplane, but an intellectual on a radio station says in a German voice that they are flying and the fighter is flying. Everyone jumps with a parachute. Landing in the forest, the group immediately runs into a German boy. The commander wants to kill him, but the Chechen says that it is mean. Chechens are supported by a thief and gypsies, and an intellectual says that the commander is no better than the Specialists. The commander is ashamed and the boy is released. The boy raises the alarm, the group runs for a long time through the forests, mountains, cities and fields, and then escapes with a young German girl who fell in love with an intellectual. The girl says that she knows where they keep Stalin's son.
The group dresses up in female uniforms, except for Chechen, who disguises himself as a wise old man, and penetrates the German object on a cart, flirting with the SS men. There they take out machine guns, shoot a lot and kill everyone, while the intellectual is mortally wounded. But when the group bursts into the basement, she sees the exhausted Jacob Dzhugashvili chained to the wall. The son of Stalin says that he did not betray the Motherland, instead of him the Germans showed his double! The scouts want to free the Leader’s son, but he tells them that his father will not forgive him anyway and asks the commander to kill him - the real Yakov Dzhugashvili. The commander does not want to do this at first, because Jacob is not to blame for anything. But the Chechen says that he understands Stalin’s son, because they are both Caucasians! And shoots. Then the scouts all explode and leave. The decisive moment is coming, because the commander says to return, but only the Siberian national leader is going to return with him. The gypsies, the Chechens, and the thief do not want to go back; they feel a flair that they will be shot there. The commander picks up the machine gun, but can’t shoot his fighting friends and lets them go, and he returns to the Kremlin with the non-Russian and reports to Stalin about the assignment. Stalin hugs him, hangs the Golden Star (and the Order of the National Assembly), then orders him to be sent to the front for reconnaissance. When the scouts clearly turn over their left shoulder, the Leader imperceptibly nods to Beria. Scouts go along the dark corridor from the Kremlin to the front, and then Beria with the NKVD appears from behind the curtains and shoots the heroes in the head. Heroes fall, a golden star and the order fills with blood. There are credits in which the announcer reads: the thief went into the partisan detachment and partisan until they swept it. Chechen secretly returned to the Caucasus and fought with the NKVD during the deportation, but died. In 1945, a German girl was raped and killed by drunken Red Army soldiers. And the gypsy sneaked into the American occupation zone, left for the USA and became a cowboy. The end of the film.
Here are shots from another vyser "Unnamed: one woman in Berlin" (Germany, 2008) about millions of raped Germans. Remember the names of those who starred in this doctorate: Evgeny Sidikhin, Dmitry Bykovsky, Roman Gribkov, Samvel Muzhikyan, Victor Zhalsanov, Alexandra Kulikova, Romuald Makarenko, Oleg Chernov, Anatoly Dzivaev, Alexander Samoilenko.

[nvv]

Millions of raped German women? History has proved that this is not so. Otherwise, all Germans, especially Germans, were written beauties. You can’t trample genes after drinking.

[Yegorchik]

A novel on ORT for such a scenario will be grabbed with hands and feet, this is their bread.

[Buran]

So what did you do? And so on the shoulder, Fedka B leaked such a material. It remains to add a sniper gun, a crooked machine gun and a statue of a man in his pocket.

[kelevra]

People, you are aware that 28 Panfilov’s are a myth of the USSR! 140 people participated in that battle, 28 people survived. But initially there weren’t 28 Panfilov’s against 100 tanks. Yes, and only 2 pieces were knocked out. Of course, I’m for such moments of the Second World War filmed, but you need to withstand the reality too!

[kelevra]

I’m interested in the NOT OBJECTIVE opinion of those 7 people who put a minus to my comment! Try reading books that are reliable, based on facts and documents, and don’t follow your mind, like: how dare he, 28 Panfilov’s, this is a legend! Read and don’t let yourself to bother with ordinary propaganda, not backed up by anything except a rush to praise a certain idea!

[Stypor23]

By the way, people look at how Yu Mukhin shares his impressions about the "Hollywood movie"

[siberalt]

It is time for Medina to fork out for documentaries about what is happening in the Donbass. And twist them before each session of pi * ndosovskih films in all cinemas in Russia for free.

[Russ69]

23.07.14/17/05. XNUMX:XNUMX. Message from eyewitnesses.

"Explosions are heard again in the central part of the city of Dzerzhinsk. It seems that the militias are returning to the city. According to eyewitnesses, shelling is also taking place at checkpoints on the borders of Dzerzhinsk."

[Leader]

It has long been established that 28 Panfilov's men are a myth invented by court hacks to please the superior "commanders" who have killed the cadre army. Maybe it's enough to repeat stories sucked out of the finger?
How can one educate the younger generation in fairy tales and lies?
We have real heroes, albeit unnamed, immeasurably - they would talk better about them, about real ones!
Another nonsense for "people's" money ...

[vlad-ns]

Quote: Comrade Bender

Unfortunately you are right. Although the feat of Soviet soldiers cannot be denigrated even with such art, the feat of 28 Panfilovites is the myth of the unscrupulous correspondent of Krasnaya Zvezda Koroteyev (in pursuit of propaganda material) and the literary secretary of Krasnaya Zvezda Krivitsky.

Not at all! The NKVD division under the command of General Panfilov really defended Moscow, and the feat of one of the units was described (I don’t remember the exact unit number), which stopped the German tank column.

[Walking]

NKVD Division? Why would a simple 316 page division become a division of the NKVD?

[rf xnumx]

Anyway, in our city there is a park named after 28 Panfilov heroes, the Eternal Flame is on fire, always fresh flowers, newlyweds come and people honor this feat

[Saburo]

On CGI would look. Not all of the film, they will be sitting in the dugout, they seem to still have to knock out tanks.

[Ivan Tarasov]

Patriotic films are very important.
The main thing is that the new film does not repeat Mikhalkov's "mask show", in which a German pilot defecated on a santiary barge, Bumbarash was killed by the tail wheel of a diving Junkers, and so on - how could such a thing come to mind ...
And Medinsky, the new Minister of Culture, also admired Mikhalkov's "masterpiece".
Not bad - Minister of Culture ...

[Vitaly Anisimov]

According to the idea, now a film would be shot about the militias of Novorossia (based on real heroes ..) We are all afraid of offending .. I think it would be a real info bomb .. In Ukraine, how many of these disgusting films have been explained where Russia is such a bloodthirsty monster ... (here is the result we see ) For a long time I have not seen normal modern films .. (one crap) Now on the "star" I watch an old film about the war .. I have already seen 100 times and everything is interesting to watch again ..

[Semurg]

Quote: MIKHAN

According to the idea, a film would be shot about the militias of New Russia (based on real heroes ..)

Here is a real hero. Judging by shoulder straps, at least a field marshal.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

I think here they are where everyone concentrated .. (such as in your photo only without tattoos ... but swearing a bucket)

[Semurg]

In this place, it seems that a lot of the PR and the communists sit, who do not seem to be against the Russian Federation, or are we all en masse writing to Bandera? Suddenly, who reads from them and they were en masse written in the sworn "parasha"? The motto "who is not with us is against us" is not very good in today's reality.

[KBR109]

Quote: leks

The first sound of the explosion is very plausible, as you damn it, you notice, and you probably noticed how the fighter covered the barrel with the palm of his hand like a trifle but is striking !!!

You forgive me, for God's sake, but still not the barrel and the barrel.

[kowalski]

No no! In modern, "imperishable" films, it is DOULO! By the way, why close the DULO in the PPSh ?!

[kowalski]

You can take it off! Only the "bare-headed" one with his AA accent (half of Russia enrages) cannot be removed! This one from "Stalingrad" staged a show ... Dad erupted in his coffin ... Baurjan-momysh-uly "(sorry, maybe he did not write it correctly), but" Volokolamsk highway "is sacred! ... Maybe I don’t understand why, but, for the shooting of "Capercaillie", "Platinum" and other moronism is it from the budget ?!

[AstanaKZ]

Yes, entertainment and dashing watchable plot is now in greater honor! I agree shitty!

[KBR109]

Quote: Matroskin 18

Let our children be brought up in such films that show the lives of people in difficult conditions, where heroism is shown for the sake of their country, where the values ​​of those years are clearly visible: honor, duty, mutual assistance, self-sacrifice!
Worse, if young people get used to images of an easy life, to meanness for personal gain, where the only value is money!
Sometimes I talk with high school students, everything is simple with them: study is needed for the "crust", and not for knowledge, when you bring the concepts of "work" and "benefit to society" close together, they frown, they firmly believe that it is important to "kick the grandmother" into the army do not want for any "gingerbread", there are "hardships and hardships" ...
But this is all the result of education!

The education of our current state is the truth of life. All our efforts to tell how to do it the right way are worth nothing, if in reality the opposite is true. At school, the governor tells the kids one thing and in life everyone sees the exact opposite ... The heroes of our time, alas, live in London or struggle to go there and often together with budget money. That's something so respected ...

[fly fishing]

A lot of good films need to be made, this is our story that must not be forgotten!
The series about the brothers and the cops flooded the screens to the nausea!
Personally, I liked the movie "Sniper 2. Tungus", director: Oleg Fesenko. Belarus.
Bondarchuk really only got "9th Company", "Stalingrad" did not hold out, the title is loud, and the plot is more about relationships.
I have long been turning away from Mikhalkov ...
Filming epics now, battle scenes are a very expensive pleasure for a movie budget. Although there are great actors.

[Mr. Zagi]

It is necessary to remove myths and truth, then to show around the world so that they know.

[Yun Klob]

Ready for the smallest money to star in the biggest role!

[GRAMARI111]

http://28panfilovcev.com/materials.php -вот здесь представлены тизерные ролики к фильму

[GRAMARI111]

excerpt from the future film

[boozer]

I support! The memory of the heroes of World War II should be. Here is another film about Strelkovites, but probably it will be after the Victory of the DPR and LPR! After the war...

[studentmati]

The idea is great!
What is embarrassing in the name of the company "Libyan Palette" patriotism is not observed.
Wait and see, I hope that I'm wrong.

[gormonix]

This amount also includes my little money. Many are waiting for the film. And I'm waiting. My dear "Goblin" from www.oper.ru supports this project. From him I learned about the future film. And other events in support of the film, for example, shooting from weapons of the Second World War and so on ..

[chenia]

Quote: Comrade Bender

It's time to stop yelling. You're right. It's time to start writing the truth.

The feat was, for this you need to have some military education and read several books about it.
But first, analyze this fact - Klochkov was the commander of the anti-tank unit of the 2nd battalion (a team of tank destroyers). Find the orders of Bet and 16A on this score (team building) and analyze the conversation between Momysh-Ula and Panfilov (the creation of such a unit based on a regular platoon, which surprised Panfilov).

From here all the tanks marching to the 2nd battalion. the first one took Klochkov and he had 4 PTRs (and forget about 4 and 5 companies.) Klochkov had the color of the 2nd battalion (see the order how these teams were formed and naturally common sense). And at the same time find out how many awards Klochkov had. Digest, I will explain further.

[super-vitek]

They wrote a lot here about the fact that there was no feat, that all this is a lie, but when I was 8-9 years old I, like them, threw myself under a tank with a grenade every evening, playing war with the guys !!!! I grew up, I learned that maybe there was no feat in reality, but how many of these PANFILOVETS sacrificed themselves while remaining unknown and nameless, buried in trenches in their firing positions, not surrendering and not retreating, fully fulfilling their military duty !!! it is necessary to denigrate the exploits of the heroes of the past, even if something is not entirely true, many honestly fulfilled their duty are worthy of our memory and respect, and the phrase "28 PANFILOVTSEV" personally I associate only with FEAT !!! Nobody is forgotten, nothing is Forgotten! We are waiting for the movie.

[Venier]

It's time to create your own Hollywood, and to broadcast your heroic story to the whole world, although, probably, it will be immodest for a Russian person.

[wladimir]

The thought, I think, is correct. And making films about our true story. And then they either remove lubok, as in the barber, and dirty tricks, as in the tsar. It’s not a pity for money from the state treasury — look what Germans were good Romanovs. But Ivan the Terrible he is bad, he offended the Germans, fought in the Baltic states.

[Rubon]

I don’t understand what the argument is about, what was or wasn’t the feat of 28 Panfilov’s ?! The feat was mythologized like most feats - yes! And who now strongly remembers that not 300 Spartans, but much more with the Allies remember 300!
In one of the main roles "Shilov", from "Cop Warriors"?

[wladimir]

If only the truth was shown, not Stalingrad and weary of the sun - Bondarchuk and Mikhalkov.