Turkey: Caucasian captive of Asia Minor

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Turkey: Caucasian captive of Asia MinorThe relations between Ankara and Baku are externally free from drastic changes. There is an extensive legal framework for strengthening these relations, including in the field of security and guarantees of mutual assistance (the Agreement on Strategic Partnership and Mutual Assistance, concluded in August 2010 of the year for 10 years). Trade and economic ties are expanding, political contacts are carried out on a regular basis, cooperation in the field of military construction and defense is developing. However, it would be wrong to consider Turkish-Azerbaijani relations completely free from pitfalls ...

A serious test of the strength of the strategic partnership between Azerbaijan and Turkey took place in the autumn of 2009. Then the process of the Armenian-Turkish normalization almost became a reality. The Turkish government was inclined to the need to restore diplomatic relations and open the land segment of the border with Armenia, but in Baku they thought otherwise. In the autumn of 2009, in the Azerbaijani capital, it even reached the point of burning the state symbols of the Republic of Turkey. The government of Recep Erdogan then backed up on the issue of normalizing relations with Armenia, but at the same time put forward their urgent wishes to the Azerbaijani authorities. Their essence boiled down to the fact that Baku should remain in the orbit of the decisive influence of Turkey, not joining any multilateral integration associations.

The processes of Euro-Atlantic and Eurasian integration bypassed Azerbaijan. In the republic, this is called the policy of "flexible alliances", respect for distance from other, in addition to Turkish, centers of power. What is important here is the fact that stability in relations with business partners, which are almost entirely represented on the Absheron peninsula by transnational corporations, is important for Baku. Any significant deviation from the policy of “flexible alliances” is fraught with negative consequences for the Azerbaijani political elite. The economic well-being of Azerbaijan directly depends on the stability of hydrocarbon supplies in the western direction. Not only American, British and European energy companies had a hand in creating such a position. Ankara did a lot here, trying to consolidate the role of a raw materials appendage to its Caspian partner and, what was a recent innovation, a large investor in the Turkish fuel and energy complex. In fact, everything that is mined in Azerbaijani fields is transited through Georgia to Turkey for further distribution among end users. Turkey partly managed to become the largest energy hub on the way from the region of Central Asia and the Caspian Sea to Europe. Only from the start of its operation in the middle of 2006 of the year to 1 of July of 2014 of the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan pipeline, almost 250 million tons of hydrocarbons were delivered to the Turkish Mediterranean port.

Part of the income from oil exports by Azerbaijan is returned to Turkey in the form of investments. Among the investment projects of Azerbaijani companies in Turkey is the construction of an oil refinery in Izmir. The investment in the project, where the controlling stake belongs to the subsidiary of the State Oil Company of Azerbaijan (SOCAR Turkey Enerji) and the State Oil Fund of the Republic, is estimated at $ 5,7 billion. while the investments of Turkish companies themselves will not exceed $ 2018 billion. There are signs of a closed cycle of cooperation between Turkey and Azerbaijan in the energy sector. The supply of black gold using the transit services of Turkey leads in the future to the investment of free liquidity by Azerbaijanis in large projects in the partner’s market.

Turkey is not interested in any independent movement of Azerbaijan towards those or other integration unions. In the western direction, the Turks claim to be the bridge for the exit of Azerbaijanis to the political and business circles of the Old World. With regard to the very promising model of Eurasian integration for Azerbaijan, Turkey’s position is clearly negative. The Turkish authorities do not want to hear about any large-scale economic cooperation between Azerbaijan and Russia, as well as with Iran.

The influence of Ankara on Baku affects in many ways. With Russia, Azerbaijan has an inadmissibly small amount of cooperation in the energy sector. Both in terms of oil supplies and natural gas purchases, Russian-Azerbaijani relations through the fuel and energy sector are characterized by “mood swings”. For example, with regard to the Baku-Novorossiysk pipeline, only recently has it been possible to advance in solving problems related to the volume of pumping and the size of the tariff charged. The volume of Azerbaijani gas supplies to Russian Gazprom also varies greatly, there is a significant shortage of contracted volumes (in 2013, Gazprom bought 1,37 billion cubic meters of Azerbaijani gas instead of the agreed 3 billion). Only recently, Azerbaijan has witnessed a certain shift in relations with Iran. The parties declared their intention to complete the construction of the Qazvin-Rasht-Astara railway in a short time, and also started the construction of two hydropower stations in the Azerbaijani-Iranian border area. Against the background of multi-billion dollar contracts Baku with its Western partners is quite a bit. It must be said, Ankara succeeded in trying to dissuade Azerbaijan from rapprochement with its two largest neighbors in the north and south. Not a single meeting of the Turkish military and representatives of the special services with their Azerbaijani counterparts is complete without a discussion of the “threats and challenges” emanating from Russia and Iran to Azerbaijan.

This alignment of forces, in which Armenia and Russia form one pole of cooperation in the Transcaucasus, and Turkey and Azerbaijan another, is the best way for Ankara to further bind Azerbaijan to itself. From the situation of the current status quo in the zone of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict, Turkey has gained a lot of benefits for itself. The unresolved conflict allows Ankara to firmly hold Azerbaijan in its sphere of influence, demanding from the Baku elite a constant oath of allegiance to a Turkish ally. Here you can remember history with the “Nurcist conspiracy” in Azerbaijan, “revealed” by the Turkish special services. Recently, the Azerbaijani media actively discussed the topic of the penetration of adherents of the movement of Fethullah Gulen “Nurdzhular” (the official name of the movement - Hizmet) into the system of power of Azerbaijan. The list of Nursists in Azerbaijani government agencies was posted on Facebook by “İnci Azəri”. Later it became known that the Consul General of Azerbaijan in Turkey Hasan Zeynalov is the author of this list. According to one of the versions, Erdogan’s government fighting the “Gülenov plague” at home decided to arrange for the Azerbaijani leadership a test of allegiance to allied obligations. Hence, a somewhat intricate, but generally effective scheme of cooperation between the Turkish special services, affiliated with the power of the media and Azerbaijani diplomats in Turkey.

Unlike Turkey, as well as the American and European partners of Azerbaijan, Russia does not require anything from Baku. Moscow needs a steadily developing neighbor located at the most important junction of the Black Sea-Caucasus region with Central Asia. If Baku is not yet ready for a substantive discussion of the issues of Eurasian integration, the Russian side will not speed up this process. Moscow will not send “energy emissaries” to Baku, as Americans, British and Turks do. A regular Washington ambassador with a good knowledge of oil and gas problems will soon take over the diplomatic watch in Baku. In August of this year, Richard Morningstar will be replaced by Robert Francis Cekuta, who has worked extensively at the State Department through energy diplomacy. Visitors from London to Baku were also cleared out - the British Minister of Energy visited Azerbaijan on July 9.

The West, like Turkey, needs only oil and gas from Azerbaijan. The development of ties with Russia gives Azerbaijan something completely different. In economic terms, this is the diversification of trade relations, the creation of non-resource clusters of cooperation. Interregional relations of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation and the regions of Azerbaijan are another extremely promising direction. In terms of political dialogue, it is necessary to point out the following: only Russia, by virtue of geographical, historical, humanitarian and other factors, can actually contribute to transforming the region’s “painful point” from an obstacle into a stimulus for multilateral cooperation. We are talking about the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict, the zone of which should be turned into a field of competition not with armaments and military operations on the cease-fire line, but with humanitarian initiatives, political confidence measures and public diplomacy resources.
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  1. +1
    23 July 2014 18: 18
    Our relations with Azerbaijan show him that Russia really wants to have good neighborly relations with him. We are ready for an open dialogue.
    1. +4
      23 July 2014 18: 52
      Going through years of bad weather
      Russia has only become stronger!
      As before, different nations
      Hopes are connected with her!
      1. +2
        23 July 2014 19: 18
        Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov met in Baku with President of Azerbaijan Ilham Aliyev and his colleague Elmar Mamedyarov. Negotiations showed: Baku intends to continue maneuvering between Moscow and the West, without giving explicit preference to either side of the confrontation escalated due to the Ukrainian crisis.
        Russian diplomats call Azerbaijan "an important strategic partner in the Transcaucasus and the Caspian region." The focus of bilateral cooperation is economics. Last year, the volume of trade exceeded $ 3,5 billion. The Russian Federation is confident that relations with Azerbaijan could be even more productive if Baku showed more interest in integration projects supervised by Moscow. Moscow is trying to get support from Baku, primarily Ukrainian, but without much success. During the recent PACE and UN General Assembly votes on draft resolutions on the Ukrainian crisis, Baku representatives have never supported Russia. Yesterday, the interlocutor in the Azerbaijani Foreign Ministry made it clear: his country considers Crimea to be the territory of Ukraine.
        Against the background of these disagreements, the West is demonstrating an increasingly clear desire to get closer to Baku. A few days before the visit of Sergey Lavrov, the head of the European Commission, Jose Manuel Barroso, visited Azerbaijan. He agreed with Ilham Aliyev to speed up the preparation and signing of a new partnership agreement on modernization. According to Mr. Barroso, the document will be signed in Brussels during the next visit of Ilham Aliyev. However, the EU is also not worth counting on something more. Azerbaijani authorities have moved away from the EU's Eastern Partnership program. A source in the Azerbaijani Foreign Ministry confirmed that Baku intends to cooperate with Brussels on practical issues, but we are not talking about preparing an association agreement with the EU.
        1. koshh
          +1
          23 July 2014 22: 38
          Quote: herruvim
          During the recent PACE and UN General Assembly votes on draft resolutions on the Ukrainian crisis, Baku representatives have never supported Russia.

          Obviously, they forgot Stalin, not that they ruled the country, but that young one to whom all Azerbaijani oil kings gave a share to supply the revolution.
          1. 11111mail.ru
            +1
            23 July 2014 23: 25
            Quote: koshh
            Obviously, they forgot Stalin, not that they ruled the country, but that young one to whom all Azerbaijani oil kings gave a share to supply the revolution.

            Confirm by reference to a SERIOUS source!
            1. -1
              24 July 2014 07: 06
              Quote: 11111mail.ru
              Confirm by reference to a SERIOUS source!

              Well, the fact that Stalin, then still Dzhugashvili, was an abrek and participated in the exes, does not need any separate confirmations, this is well known and was not hidden to them.
              1. 11111mail.ru
                +1
                24 July 2014 17: 42
                Quote: inkass_98
                then still Dzhugashvili, was an abrek and participated in exs, does not need any separate confirmations, this is well known

                So You answered my question about documenting your phrase:
                Quote: inkass_98
                all Azerbaijani oil kings gave a share

                The answer according to the principle: "there is an elder in the garden, and in Kiev there is an uncle" - cannot be accepted when the issue is seriously considered. Moreover, the cunning excuse "this is common knowledge" does not paint you, only the degree of conformity of "this common knowledge" to reality sometimes has not a nominal, but a minimum value, for example: Obama is a "peacemaker".
          2. 0
            24 July 2014 08: 05
            and why support justify
      2. igor.oldtiger
        -1
        24 July 2014 10: 41
        and then "different peoples" turn to us w — oh! from the Turks we defended both Georgians, Armenians, and Bulgarians in the 18-19 centuries! I’m not talking about World War II!
        1. igor.oldtiger
          0
          25 July 2014 14: 27
          probably minus those whom Russia defended?
    2. +3
      23 July 2014 19: 35
      Hmm ... Russia NEEDS really normal relations with neighbors !!! The only question is ... In what do our NEIGHBORS see the BENEFIT from the union ... !!!
      1. +1
        24 July 2014 08: 07
        In and Ukraine thought that good neighborly relations with Russia but MISTAKED
    3. +1
      24 July 2014 08: 04
      for over 20 years, Russia has shown how open it is to dialogue
  2. +6
    23 July 2014 18: 31
    The policy of our president is to be friends with everyone who sincerely wants this. And this, in my opinion, is right! And not against someone (like others), but for the good of Russia.
  3. pinecone
    +1
    23 July 2014 18: 39
    The West, like Turkey, only needs oil and gas from Azerbaijan. The development of ties with Russia gives Azerbaijan something fundamentally different. In economic terms, this is the diversification of trade relations, the creation of non-resource-based clusters of cooperation.

    It is a pity that the author did not consider it necessary to explain how he envisions the diversification of trade relations and the creation of "non-resource clusters" of cooperation between the Russian Federation and Azerbaijan.
    1. +7
      23 July 2014 18: 57
      Well, then, millions of Azerbaijanis work in Russia, we constantly see them in the vegetable markets, on the basis of which we have an opinion - in my opinion, unfair - about all Azerbaijanis. Moreover, the highly educated and cultural layer of the Azerbaijani, especially Baku, intelligentsia, which under the USSR stood on a par with the best people of Moscow, Leningrad, Kiev, Minsk, etc. the intelligentsia remained practically outside the contacts and mutual influence of the rest of the Russian world. Turkey, being a close country in language, is significantly inferior to Azerbaijan (Baku is for sure!) In culture.
      It is unfortunate that Azerbaijan and Russia are now so far apart.
      1. koshh
        +4
        23 July 2014 22: 46
        Quote: andj61
        At the same time, the highly educated and cultural layer of the Azerbaijani, especially Baku, intelligentsia, .... remained practically outside the contacts and mutual influence of the rest of the Russian world. T


        Indeed, now for us, the entire cultural layer of the Baku intelligentsia is reduced to the height and price of a hill of pomegranates in the vegetable market, which is covered by the Azerbaijani diasporas.
        1. +2
          24 July 2014 08: 08
          I do not agree, you write what you want to see, but these are only your dreams
  4. +3
    23 July 2014 18: 47
    The next ambassador of Washington with a good knowledge of oil and gas problems will soon take up a diplomatic shift in Baku. In August of this year, Richard Morningstar will be replaced by Robert Francis Secuta, who worked a lot at the State Department through energy diplomacy. Visitors also cleaned out from London to Baku - on July 9, the British Minister of Energy visited Azerbaijan.

    No matter how flaming Azerbaijan is. from such attention of the west.
    1. +8
      23 July 2014 19: 22
      laughing The branch of the National Democratic Institute of the United States in Baku was closed. So we will not succeed in color revolutions.
      1. -1
        23 July 2014 19: 53
        Omar, and this is confirmed. http://vpk.name/news/113907_azerbaidzhan_poluchaet_izrailskie_katera.html?
        It is very interesting.
        1. +1
          23 July 2014 20: 02
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          Omar, and this is confirmed. http://vpk.name/news/113907_azerbaidzhan_poluchaet_izrailskie_katera.html?
          It is very interesting.


          Moreover, a shipyard has recently opened, where they begin to build warships with a displacement of 800-1000 and armed with Gabriel Mk5 and Barak-8.
          Aron, I think you know what it is. wink
          1. 0
            23 July 2014 20: 12
            Quote: lonely
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            Omar, and this is confirmed. http://vpk.name/news/113907_azerbaidzhan_poluchaet_izrailskie_katera.html?
            It is very interesting.


            Moreover, a shipyard has recently opened, where they begin to build warships with a displacement of 800-1000 and armed with Gabriel Mk5 and Barak-8.
            Aron, I think you know what it is. wink

            What for? recourse Are you there with whom you are so seriously planning to cut in the Caspian? Eight only Indians received.
            1. 0
              24 July 2014 08: 10
              it’s not chopped off just before the strengthening of the Navy all hands didn’t reach here its time has come
          2. 0
            24 July 2014 10: 54
            Moreover, a shipyard has recently opened, where they begin to build warships with a displacement of 800-1000 and armed with Gabriel Mk5 and Barak-8.

            Damn, Israeli weapons like a Muslim country! We’d go to Zelenodolsk, or we’d buy more serious weapons.
        2. +2
          24 July 2014 08: 09
          If Russia does not sell, then we buy from others this business and increased defense
      2. +1
        24 July 2014 10: 34
        Quote: lonely
        laughing The branch of the National Democratic Institute of the United States in Baku was closed. So we will not succeed in color revolutions.

        It's a good news. You know, I don’t want you to have what happened in Georgia and is happening in Ukraine. You live a separate country from Russia, live, no one is against, the main thing would be peace and stability in Azerbaijan.
  5. +1
    23 July 2014 19: 05
    Mattress makers are sure to shit, it’s a joy for them, but in the region it’s blazing after them. I hope Azerbaijan has enough wisdom and firmness.
    1. avt
      0
      23 July 2014 19: 25
      Quote: navara399
      Mattress makers are sure to shit, it’s a joy for them, but in the region it’s blazing after them. I hope Azerbaijan has enough wisdom and firmness.

      Hopefully, we still did not have enough "happiness" to unfreeze the war in Karabakh. So far there is enough wisdom and arguments not to aggravate the situation, but the hands of some people are itching and "common people" are encouraging. Although I think they will not be able to make peace with Armenians and the war will still be, but it's better later than early.
    2. 0
      24 July 2014 08: 13
      Azerbaijan will not refuse Azerbaijan wisdom and firmness in politics
  6. iKA
    iKA
    +3
    23 July 2014 19: 20
    as a Russian-speaking Bakuman, I would like to have a strategic partner in the person of Russia! Russia does not abandon partners! but in the 90 years the country Azerbaijan could choose a partner? Of course, there was no obstacle to the war with Armenia, a civil war, and still do not forget the strong choose and the weak obey! Russia then chose Armenia! proof of this is the 306th motorized rifle regiment participating in the capture of the city of Shushi! but Russia was doomed to this choice due to the failure of the Soviet Union policy which resulted in the genocide of the Soviet army in Baku on January 20! and this led to the fact that the local Baku people burned their passports, and Russia then lost and lost a partner! Armenia was a substitute! Now everything can be fixed because the Baku People are still living in Baku with the Russians like all Azerbaijanis with the Russian Malakans throughout the country! But can a friend of my enemy be my friend? Russia needs something give in order to get something else! the choice is Russia, and Azerbaijan is not the same as in the nineties the economy is strong and unique ay even as an independent country of the southern Caucasus!
    1. 0
      23 July 2014 20: 02
      In general, Armenia seems to me like a flatterer and a sucker, always opposing its "friendship" - "not friendship" to Baku!
      1. iKA
        iKA
        +2
        23 July 2014 20: 39
        Armenia is a unique country of its kind! it has territorial claims against Georgia, Azerbaijan and Turkey! and it is the only country in the Caucasus where Armenians live alone! with such a policy they have no choice but to be a sneak and a flatterer! How is it different when you are in blockade? Russia has bought almost all of Armenia’s nuclear power plants, ambitions from this country that are many times greater than its capabilities! And you know, they themselves are to blame! Well, they got the Karabakh, what's the point? If this Karabakh is a dead zone consisting of dead cities! Well, that won got? the ruins that they themselves destroyed, well? they can take advantage of the potential of Karabakh in economic terms? no, of course, any enterprise that opens a branch in Karabakh is closed in Azerbaijan! and how smart people they choose the market of 9 million than the NKR! well, that’s the whole real of today a region named the Caucasus and the country of Armenia! but how would they live well if they were friends? this is in favor of both countries!
    2. 11111mail.ru
      0
      23 July 2014 23: 30
      Quote: iKA
      the only independent country in the South Caucasus!

      ...something like independent ... Interestingly put it!
      1. iKA
        iKA
        0
        25 July 2014 02: 35
        It’s too early to talk about full independence, but the only country in the post-Soviet region can firmly say that it is more independent! why because Europe needs it more than Europe does it need energy and its ratification! and during circumstances Russia also needs more than Russia, the situation in Russia has been losing partners from CIS countries lately !! but in any case there are two ways and there is a choice and the country is in no hurry to choose this and its political success lies! the country is also blocking another country Armenia but closing the borders is still harmful and you can it was to sell oil to them! due to its energy industry and Turkey closed the border, but you don’t need to give a freebie when you take it! and still not leverage pressure from Russia, but you could safely sell gas to Europe cheaper, but you could anger the bear and be left without a Karabakh, therefore, the country pursues a reciprocal but cautious policy does not go to Europe because there double standards do not go to Russia because there it does not will be able to ratify the energy corridor, which brings the country more income than selling watermelons! but staying in the sphere of influence of both you can raise your own price at an auction! that is, Russia you want a partner give a chance to take Karabakh push on Armenia! Europe want gas? push on Armenia and we let’s return the Karabakh! well, whoever will be more active will get a tidbit ,,, but for now no one wants to! it means you have to play by the rules of superpowers but be strong yourself! because everyone is a strong friend and they will pay more to be strong! and you will get yours! and after a while it will show, while the unique policy of our country is being painted by the senior Aliyev!
  7. +4
    23 July 2014 19: 31
    What does wisdom have to do with it ?! There is oil, and this is the reason for the "color" show in the future ...
    1. iKA
      iKA
      +2
      23 July 2014 19: 54
      yes I agree there is a reason and wanted it in 2003! but with whose hands the enemies will do it? there is a dead opposition in Azerbaijan! there is almost none, there is not one influential person among the opposition who could attract at least some part of the population! and there is a good one in Baku example of cohesion, when one of the local military during the Karabakh war decided to seize Baku and power and went to Baku, his name was Huseynov’s suure and no power could stop him, he wanted to turn the then president, and in the evening his soldiers were sent to Baku about one million people took to the streets and stopped him
      ! all the time will show wait and see
  8. +2
    23 July 2014 19: 49
    There will be a strong Russia, Baku itself will come. And no Karabakh will hinder her.
    1. +1
      23 July 2014 20: 06
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      There will be a strong Russia, Baku itself will come.

      Is Russia weak ?! winked

      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      And no Karabakh will hurt her.

      Unfortunately, with accuracy but vice versa.
  9. +8
    23 July 2014 20: 27
    Russian-Azerbaijani exercises begin in the Caspian
    http://m.haqqin.az/news/26755
  10. 0
    23 July 2014 20: 31
    Relations between Baku and Russia leave much to be desired. Everyone needs Baku as commodity storage, but Russia looks at Baku completely differently. But Baku does not want to notice this. what a pity.
  11. +2
    23 July 2014 20: 34
    Karabakh is the one thread that can unravel the whole tangle. If there were no Karabakh problem, we would not have problems in the South Caucasus. And Russia would not have wondered who Azerbaijan would go to. Manipulating Karabakh, you can pull the strings in Baku. Will Russia be strong or weak, it doesn’t matter. We have one headache and one problem. Solving the Karabakh problem immediately solves many problems in the South Caucasus. From politics to economics. All borders will be immediately unblocked and then the problem of unfriendly Georgia will look a little different. Immediately, Russia will receive a through transport artery to Iran. Azerbaijan can then seriously think about the CU. And the routes of gas and oil pipelines would run a little differently. The Armenian-Turkish border would also be unlocked. If there were no Karabakh problem, Azerbaijan’s position on Ukraine would also be different. It is strange to demand recognition of Azerbaijan from Crimea and not to notice the problems of Karabakh. For example, I believe that Crimea belongs to Russia. But if I were in power, I would vote at the UN against Russia. Personal and social should always be separated.

    He who has ears, let him hear.
  12. -1
    23 July 2014 20: 49
    For over 20 years, Azerbaijan has built an alternative infrastructure of transport corridors bypassing the Russian Federation, which gives it greater independence in its steps. The only issue that is currently hampering development is Karabakh (the issue of local corruption and the lack of transparency of capital acquired outside the brackets is our common disease of all CIS countries). Over the 50 years of the oil boom, the Arab monarchies have taken a huge step, and in Azerbaijan, oil has been pumping for about 100 years and probably 20 years with independence. What would Azerbaijan be like if these 100 years were independent?
    1. +1
      23 July 2014 21: 31
      Quote: Semurg
      What would Azerbaijan be like if these 100 years were independent?

      what I think they would live no worse than the Emirates.
      1. +5
        23 July 2014 22: 32
        Somewhere I have already heard this. And, I remembered, in Ukraine. "If it were not for the Russian invaders, we would have lived like Germans." And how different is the standard of living from the Emirates in neighboring Iran (we did not occupy it)?
        1. +3
          23 July 2014 22: 57
          Quote: Tupolev-95
          Somewhere I have already heard this. And, I remembered, in Ukraine. "If it were not for the Russian invaders, we would have lived like Germans." And how different is the standard of living from the Emirates in neighboring Iran (we did not occupy it)?

          Where did you see the word about occupation?
          Comparing the standard of living of the emirates and Iran is just a laugh. The Iranian standard of living ends when a forehead leaves the city and enters the first village. In Iran, 4 points from an earthquake turn into ruins. When you exchange $ 100, you have to buy a plastic bag to put there money. Inflation there is terrible. in three-digit numbers.
        2. +1
          23 July 2014 23: 33
          Are you sure Iran is so bad? Have you been to this country? Or use American propaganda. For example, I know that medicine in Iran is at a very high level. The level of education is quite good. And there is a lot of democracy there. There is a touch of religion. But is not the Church in its prime in Russia now?

          I think that we would live like the rest of the world.
          1. -1
            24 July 2014 18: 37
            Go Bakhtiyar, just go to the main square of Tehran and say something critical about the Supreme Leader of Iran or President Rowhan a few words. And you will see all the charm of Iranian democracy, unless of course you are stoned or hit in the back with 80 sticks. write nonsense.

            I’ve been there 10 times. Once I wrote to you: I know what I’m writing. I don’t take facts and figures from the ceiling.
  13. +4
    23 July 2014 21: 23
    Today is the "night of predestination" let the Almighty hear your prayers and requests Muslims (nietynyz kabyl bolsyn)
    1. +4
      23 July 2014 21: 27
      Quote: Semurg
      Today is the "night of predestination" let the Almighty hear your prayers and requests Muslims (nietynyz kabyl bolsyn)

      Mutually brother !!
    2. +2
      23 July 2014 21: 38
      Today I can not spend this night awake, because the previous one did not sleep. :(
    3. SSR
      -5
      24 July 2014 02: 18
      Congratulations.
      Ps
      Nietynyz and other gifts, even from Muslims, even from Unistan, can be very different, it is not harmful to dream, it is harmful not to dream, but the profitability of dreams of not the most intelligent person is fraught with serious ..... At least. Jumpers.
      Be careful with your desires, sometimes dreams come true but not in the way you thought.
      1. +2
        24 July 2014 17: 09
        You can not worry you and your children, the prayers of believers will not affect, although you are also a servant of God Adam's son!
        1. SSR
          0
          26 July 2014 17: 19
          Quote: AstanaKZ
          You can not worry you and your children, the prayers of believers will not affect, although you are also a servant of God Adam's son!

          What does all this have to do with it? I meant that not all desires and wishes are correct and that sometimes these dreams lead - an example is today's Ukraine.
  14. +1
    23 July 2014 23: 33
    Caucasian captive of Asia Minor power
    True, Ankara has always sought to dominate the Transcaucasus.
    1. +3
      24 July 2014 09: 54
      Turkey wants to dominate a much larger area, including the Middle East. Some Arab countries flatteringly "help" her in this, remembering that there was once the Ottoman Empire. But I am afraid that this is only an attempt to use Turkey (more precisely, its army and political weight) in their own selfish interests. I think this is not a secret for the Turkish leadership. But they quarreled with Israel.
  15. +1
    24 July 2014 09: 21
    Quote: ya.seliwerstov2013
    Going through years of bad weather
    Russia has only become stronger!
    As before, different nations
    Hopes are connected with her!

    The Turks want not only to dominate, but to control, all of Transcaucasia and the Black Sea region are trying to show themselves as the leading regional power.
  16. +4
    24 July 2014 09: 49
    The attitude of Russia towards Azerbaijan is changing. But in the 90s under the late Yeltsin there was nowhere worse. In 1996, the status quo that had existed before was fixed, according to which Azerbaijan was recognized as a zone of economic interests of the West, subject to its political non-interference. Do not judge closeness with Turkey and Iran. We have a linguistic affinity with Turkey, and historical and religious with Iran. In the 90s, both countries helped with food. Of course, both of these countries have their own interests, but who does not have them? Relations should be mutually beneficial, and if someone requires a friendly position, then he himself should be ready to take some steps.

    The conspiracy of the Nursists is a separate huge topic with access to the global level, and here Azerbaijan has interest, i.e. this was not only done at the request of Turkey.

    During one of the visits, VVP mentioned that the previous policy of the Russian Federation towards Azerbaijan was erroneous. Yes, the deceased BNE tried (or rather, he did not try at all, he simply abandoned it, "leaked" to the West). Rebuilding is always harder than building from scratch.

    The Russian Federation has a specific interest in Azerbaijan. It consists in:
    1. Do not allow the "NATO infantry" to be drawn into the circle along with the well-known republics of the former USSR and the socialist camp. It is well known how NATO complies with the non-expansion and non-proliferation treaties.
    2. The Russian Federation wants to maintain control over energy supplies to Europe, and does not want other countries, including Azerbaijan, to be used to weaken this control.
    3. The Russian Federation wants to maintain a stable state as opposed to NATO plans to create centers of chaos on its borders.
    4. Economic interest - trade.

    Azerbaijan does not have any contradictions on the listed items. But there is a big problem - the Karabakh conflict. It must be decided.

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