General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine: Ukrainian military entered Severodonetsk

Ministry of Defense of Ukraine spread the information that the Ukrainian military entered Severodonetsk. This information was brought to the President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko by the head of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the country Viktor Muzhenko.

In a popular report, it says that military personnel who are located at roadblocks in the Krasnopartizanska area are provided with all necessary. It is a question of delivering 300 dry rations, as well as 650 liters of drinking water.

This confirms that for a long time several units of the Ukrainian army did not receive either water or food.

The General Staff of Ukraine states that a large number of ammunition for rifle weapons and artillery.

TV channel Russia Today With reference to representatives of the Luhansk People's Republic, he spread information that says that heavy fighting is taking place in Severodonetsk. The Ukrainian army is leading the offensive in several columns of armored vehicles.

Severodonetsk - 120-thousandth city in the LC, which has a large number of industrial facilities. These are enterprises of the chemical, metallurgical, food industry. The airport is located in 4 kilometers south-east of Severodonetsk.

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[Yellow white]

Bad is all ..
Reptiles choke on all fronts!

I just do not know, enlighten comrades, how are things going with the "boilers"?

[Giant thought]

The Nazis use their gigantic superiority in heavy weapons.

[raccoon]

Not in the subject, but still a little about BOTS and TROLES.
The people are so simple that it's a no brainer, remember the movie "} {from @ bych" like 2006, where Khotabych was talking to the program on the internet !!! WITH BOT !!! A couple of dozen dummy pages are made, and with the help of a simple program, mailing is cut to anywhere and anything, EVERYTHING !!! Basic things, who talked with Svidomo, they will understand me !!!

[Nikolav]

Just now it was reported that Lysychansk was captured by the Ukrainians ... Bad things ...

[Nikolav]

Here's what the colonel cassad reports:
1. Severodonetsk and Lisichansk in the process of abandonment. The militia has no way of holding back attacks in converging directions under the incessant shelling and attacks of tank formations. Leaving Rubezhnoy is an attempt to narrow the front, but the available forces are obviously not enough. to keep the enemy offensive in converging directions. Therefore, the process of retreat from the Lisichansk ledge towards Alchevsk has already begun. While the main forces are being withdrawn, the cover detachments are holding back the enemy's advance. Since there is no complete encirclement, the troops will be able to withdraw without serious losses and take up defenses at new lines, where the operational situation will not be so unfavorable. We are waiting for the provocateurs' hysterics about the fact that Mozgovoy "also betrayed." It must be understood that the cities themselves have not been abandoned, but the forces are gradually being withdrawn from them.
In fact, as well as the abandonment of Slavyansk, leaving the Lysychansk ledge is the fruit of a difficult operational situation. Forces to maintain the current configuration of the front and at the same time restrain the base of the ledge are clearly not enough. Strelkov didn’t have much to send him, he struggled yesterday in Donetsk, and Bezler was constrained by heavy street fighting in Dzerzhinsk and on the outskirts of Gorlovka. The ongoing fighting near Lugansk made impossible and serious help from the LPR. Therefore, the units of the Brain began to depart. The abandonment of the Lisichansk ledge under the current operational situation is 2-3 days.

[Nikolav]

Farther:

2. To numerous questions on the southern boiler. The enemy’s grouping is still surrounded - heavy losses in equipment, low morale and lack of fuel and lubricants do not allow the junta to break through to its own troops, so the encircled troops are defending and await the success of the junta in other areas or a successful attack on Marinovka.
The militias now have nothing physically to defeat the surrounded troops, almost all armored vehicles and MLRS, constrained in the battles of Donetsk and Lugansk. The infantry is not enough (in fact, the militia surrounded the enemy with less forces, which is the fruit of the blatant mistakes of the command of the junta), there is very little equipment. Therefore, the borders of the boiler are kept due to the dense defense of key positions and shelling of artillery and MLRS, which can not lead the junta to surrender, but only cause him daily sensitive, but not yet critical losses. The future of the boiler is determined by the results of the battles near Donetsk and Lugansk.

[cosmos111]

it is difficult to write, but that is, that is ....

14-02. The National Guard of Ukraine seized strategically important settlements in the north of the Lugansk People's Republic - Severodonetsk and Rubezhnoye. Militia while holding the defense of Lysychansk.

[cosmos111]

further more......

14-25. The forces of the so-called anti-terrorist operation occupied the suburbs of Donetsk, Sands. The fire does not cease in Donetsk itself. The shootout was heard in the area of ​​Stratonavtov, Artyomovskaya and Krasnoarmeyskoye Highways. According to the city administration, five civilians were killed during the fighting. 12 injured.

[cosmos111]

No comments...

14-49. LPR militia report for the first half of the day 22 July 2014

"Last night, the enemy fired Lugansk from Grad installations allegedly from the Georgievka village. In response, units of the LC army also struck the enemy from Gradov. The missiles of the Ukrainian army fell in the Eastern quarters of the republic, particularly in the Komarovo quarter.

In the afternoon, the Ukrainian army continued shelling Lugansk with mobile sabotage groups. Under Georgievka, the enemy placed his roadblocks, which, however, did not allow him to achieve a strategic goal: to lift the blockade of the Lugansk airport. Also, the aggressor continued to concentrate forces in the area of ​​the radar station and the village of Metalist, this night the village of Makarov was fired from mortars.

A difficult situation has developed in Severodonetsk and Lisichansk. The cities left the units of Alexei Mozgovoy (only individual detachments remained in the field, refusing to obey their commander) and the chieftain Kozitsin. Now in Severodonetsk there are heavy battles, the Ukrainian army is advancing on the city with several tank columns, the city is defended by the commandant's office. Lysychansk was heavily bombed last night "

[cosmos111]

the tragedy continues ...

on the Metalist side volleys towards Stakhanov, MLRS "Uragan" are working. Artillery strikes are also being applied to Lugansk.
UPD 2: 15: 20 (MSC) Dryers went to Lugansk from the side of Alchevsk, made several circles and went towards Kramatorsk and Popasna.

[cosmos111]

[quote =] 16-40. Operational summary.
UPD 1: Lysychansk was abandoned during the daytime battles. The enemy, with the support of artillery on the outskirts of Severodonetsk (the 9 floor on Partizanov / Energetikov suffered this way, began with an offensive from Rubezhnoye along the Seversky Donets to Severodonetsk. Nazi units entered the northern part, heavy fighting went on for several hours, artillery strikes were carried out on positions. Due to the threat of the operational environment of Lysychansk and its further destruction, it was decided to leave the city, but our RDGs will operate in the city. There are breaks and fights on the outskirts of Severodonetsk. mation on Severodonetsk executive committee hanging Zhevnov-Blakytny rag. [/ Quote]

the front is shrinking catastrophically ...

[cosmos111]

17-10. 16: 50 (Moscow time) Operational report of the DNR militia.
Donetsk airport is blocked by the DNR militia. The release attempt failed. During the fighting, the enemy’s armored groups suffered serious losses.
The onset of the Ukrainian army near Donetsk stopped. In a number of areas, the militia managed to advance further the positions they had previously held.
The enemy is preparing to storm Gorlovka. Yesterday's attack on the militia position was repelled with serious losses for the enemy.

17-20. According to unconfirmed information, shelling began in Pervomaisk, the same source reported the bombing of Stakhanov.

but the airport, still not taken by the militia ... probably 000 remained forces and equipment ....

[cosmos111]

not all, probably units obeyed the order of Mozgovoy, the city is constantly fired upon ....

17-39. Operational summary.
UPD 3: 16: 40 (MSC) Despite the withdrawal of our units, the Nazi artillery continues shelling Lysychansk, at the moment attacks are being made on the glass factory.

[alicante11]

Well, it was worth a couple of days to fall out of the Internet space and again an attack by alarmists.
I completed Strelkov's reports, I didn’t see a message about the occupation of Peskov. However, this n.p. appeared in messages more than once, since from him, incl. there is a blockade of the Donetsk airport. And in recent messages there is information about the fighting for the airport. So it’s quite possible that there were fights.

Regarding Rubezhnoye-Lysychansk-Severodonetsk. Even immediately after Strelkov’s departure from Slavyansk, he said that these cities should also be left. They are too advanced and the enemy is too well settled under them, defended the positions of artillery and created fortified areas. So picking it with field parts is useless and he just throws shells at the cities. Finally, they decided to leave. Although I understand that they tried to save these cities as a springboard for an attack on the north and the creation of a new boiler. But ... apparently, having realistically appreciated their strengths, they realized that at first it’s worth to nevertheless specifically clean the southern boiler and release Lugansk. This is more important for supplying troops near Donetsk.

So there is nothing catastrophic. Meanwhile, quite encouraging news is coming from the south from the boiler zone. I hope that Mozgovoy, after he unblocks Lugansk, will help in the elimination of dill in the south.

[raccoon]

And yet, for two months now I have been fighting on the Internet (VKontakte) with Svidomo, no one is helping, it happened right away with five TORLEI at the same time .... unfairly like that, and yesterday I finally helped !!!!!!! And this someone: an ordinary Chechen, the two of us together brought such a fuss last night on the forums ....... GESTURE !!!!! I am ashamed of the Russians, YOU have a powerful weapon in their hands: keyboard!!!!!!!! GO Fight on the forums, if not yet sitting in the trenches !!!

[nicolay338]

I have no time, unfortunately (((
Here at work a couple of times to go - I can afford (((
Yes, and in the ukro-forum, the ban immediately grabbed ... Yes, they went nah)))

[Ofitser_V]

How to help dictate!

[Қarabas]

Please throw off the link in a personal where you brought up a schucher there.

[Russ69]

Quote: karabas

Please throw off the link in a personal where you brought up a schucher there.

Yes, yes ... I will join ...

[raccoon]

Quote: karabas

Please throw off the link to the PM where you got a schucher there

Yes, on any forums, I personally "VKontakte" I fight, the "Anti-Maidan" group, "Bulletins from Strelkov", where exactly if you want to see, I can't at the moment, I'm at work, access is closed! But EVERYTHING is in YOUR hand, or even in your fingers !!!!! Go bolder !!!

[0255]

Quote: raccoon

And yet, for two months now I have been fighting on the Internet (VKontakte) with Svidomo, no one is helping, it happened right away with five TORLEI at the same time .... unfairly like that, and yesterday I finally helped !!!!!!! And this someone: an ordinary Chechen, the two of us together brought such a fuss last night on the forums ....... GESTURE !!!!! I am ashamed of the Russians, YOU have a powerful weapon in their hands: keyboard!!!!!!!! GO Fight on the forums, if not yet sitting in the trenches !!!

the only way you can defeat trolls is to ban them if you are a moderator or administrator. And arguing with them is useless.
And what do we stand in reality - we will find out when the third world will begin, and it is just around the corner.
Whether you served in the army or not, I think I’ll have to fight
I used to try to prove to our Israeli comrades Professor and Pupyrchaty that I was shot down in Lebanon in 15, and afterwards - everyone still had their own opinion.

[raccoon]

Quote: 0255

the only way you can defeat trolls is to ban them if you are a moderator or administrator. And arguing with them is useless.

Among the TROLES and BOTS there are drugged svidomye, there are few of them, but there are, so if I put at least one on the right path, then I have not lived a day in vain, I SHOULD SPEAK THE TRUTH, ask "Inconvenient questions" !!!

[victorrat]

Where do you fight? I’ll connect. Forum address. Odnoklassniki also has local fights. Svidomye attack on all fronts. In facebook too.

[wanderer]

Bravo!!! - BEHIND.

[lelikas]

Quote: raccoon

And yet, for two months now I have been fighting on the Internet (VKontakte) with Svidomo, no one is helping, it happened right away with five TORLEI at the same time .... unfairly like that, and yesterday I finally helped !!!!!!! And this someone: an ordinary Chechen, the two of us together brought such a fuss last night on the forums ....... GESTURE !!!!! I am ashamed of the Russians, YOU have a powerful weapon in their hands: the keyboard !!!!!!!! GO Fight on the forums, if not yet sitting in the trenches !!!

It is useless to argue with idiots - either the crowd will crush, or lower them to their level. Only rockets, only hardcore!

[INVESTOR]

Quote: raccoon

And yet, for two months now I have been fighting on the Internet (VKontakte) with Svidomo, no one is helping, it happened right away with five TORLEI at the same time .... unfairly like that, and yesterday I finally helped !!!!!!! And this someone: an ordinary Chechen, the two of us together brought such a fuss last night on the forums ....... GESTURE !!!!! I am ashamed of the Russians, YOU have a powerful weapon in their hands: keyboard!!!!!!!! GO Fight on the forums, if not yet sitting in the trenches !!!

You are not alone, I also fight)) and have fun in one bottle)))

[INVESTOR]

Here is one of the exhaustive comments from the censor:
every day the dullness of a putler is more and more to the world.
IF DECORATED FOR ANYTHING, WHY SHOULD THE BEECH BE CARRIED IN IT?

[Hansa]

Comment in general on the matter, whatever one may say.

[Proud.]

Quote: Hansa

Comment in general on the matter, whatever one may say.

This is about the comment from the Censor? And what is he "on the case"? Where to "twist"? This information, about the "BUK", which was taken back to RUSSIA-game. And lies. It was refuted by evidence. This is stupidity. Dullness of UKROURAidiots ...

[Wind.Of.Change]

I agree with you information the most important weapon .... fundamental to a new war without losses. I have already managed to convince one friend, who is on the head, then an enemy and then a friend again ... everyone to whom human language can explain "what's what" can take our side ... a huge plus

[armageddon]

Hmm ... Only the Nazi group surrounded by the Nazis comes !!! So the BIG question is WHO WHO SHOWS OUT !!! And the nats can scream anything !!!

[raccoon]

Lightning: Boeing's black boxes will be handed over to decryption in London

[zzz]

Quote: raccoon

Lightning: Boeing's black boxes will be handed over to decryption in London

I had no doubt ... that the Anglo-Saxons

[Russ69]

Quote: Black and White

I just do not know, enlighten comrades, how are things going with the "boilers"?

No way ... There is nothing to crush them.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Russ69

No way ... There is nothing to crush them.

They help, but they cannot send hundreds of cars to the impudent convoy. They are helped in small groups.

[Lord of the Sith]

There is a corridor of 2 km. But there is no way to close completely.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

They urinate everyone in spite of the residential neighborhoods, not residential ... (they were a little afraid before) The masters gave them carte blanche..It’s really cool ...

[ya.seliwerstov2013]

- We will not leave! - we repeat again
We will not leave, we are Slavic blood!
Let us be smaller, denser ring,
We just laugh death in the face ...

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Black and White

Bad is all ..

Bolotov announced the start of a counter offensive. Severodonetsk not taken!

[alone]

And the cities were left so that there was no boiler. The Lisichansk ledge ceased to exist. I just read and saw photographs. The danger was also left. And the Ukrian command said that they had begun cleansing Pervomaisky.
All of these points are located on the border of two regions. This means that the Dnieper and the Dnieper are cut off from each other. Let's be objective. If this happens, the DNR will end sooner or later. Because the security went through Lugansk.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: lonely

.If this happens, DNR will sooner or later have an end. Because the security went through Lugansk.

Is Bolotov lying?http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/50380411

[alone]

Alexander, Popasnaya was also taken. Without Popasnoy, it’s pointless to help those in Lisichansk. Positions about Severodonetsk and Lisichansk are lies. There are separate centers of resistance that cannot be called positions. Ukrainians have tremendous advantages in artillery, armored vehicles and aviation. In this situation, a counteroffensive is impossible.
The only way to level the front line and force the enemy to switch to a positional war. But to achieve this, tremendous efforts are needed. But this must be done. I will tell you why.
After Popasna, a road opens to Stakhanovo and Krasnyy Luch. In addition, you can turn to Debaltseve. In the forehead, if they are not stopped, they will simply cut two areas. Losing the connection between the two areas means only one defeat.

[alicante11]

There are no reports of the remaining Popasna.

[RUSS]

Quote: lonely

If this happens, the DPR will have an end sooner or later. Because the security went through Lugansk.

In the near future, Novorossia will fall, its rebirth is possible from the beginning of 2015 or a little later, when in Ukraine (most likely) a severe economic crisis will begin.

[shasherin.pavel]

Quote: RUSS

In the near future, New Russia will fall

More reminiscent of Hitler’s assurance that Leningrad will fall, and then Moscow ... Ukraine can replenish its troops with equipment as they please, but they will not be able to raise the spirit of their troops, since the Ukrainian soldiers themselves on the territory of the collision lose this spirit. The good news is that the Swedish sniper, who boasted an award for his head in 70 000 hryvnia, was captured.

[Marconi41]

Quote: lonely

All of these points are located on the border of two regions. This means that the Dnieper and the Dnieper are cut off from each other. Let's be objective. If this happens, the DNR will end sooner or later. Because the security went through Lugansk.

Unfortunately you are right. If the situation does not radically change anything in the balance of power. That LNR cut off from the DNI, squeeze them in the cities of Donetsk and Lugansk - and all! The end of New Russia. The Ukrainian military, as well as the militias, are also gaining combat experience and will very soon learn how to better use their military superiority in manpower and equipment. There are still hopes for more reasonable assistance from Russia.

[vladstro]

The bastards are strangling, the order due to the puddles to finish before the fall, so foolishly announced the mobilization, they want to fill up the number.

[wanderer]

We are waiting for a summary from the shooter.

[Thunderbolt]

Just passed Popasna

[alone]

Quote: Gromobik

Just passed Popasna

Two hours already on an Internet go photo from Popasnaya. Passed at least 2-3 hours ago. There is no more protrusion.

[alicante11]

But in the rifle reports there.

[aristarh]

I think Novorossia will last another week. A maximum of two. At this rate of attack., It is not possible to keep the front line if there are no tanks in abundance, artillery, a normal rear. they will be crushed quickly, plus against aviation it is difficult to keep any united front or defense on the plain.

[BOB044]

Not long they had to rejoice so much. They will run soon, only the heels will sparkle. If they announced a new mobilization, then it means the trumpet. I think it will be so

[Sasha1979]

Boilers are gradually being cleaned. But at the same time, cities are lost. On the map, the situation looks grim.

[Korvin1000]

However, the militias lose the war. It would be necessary to respond to a new partial mobilization in Dill. Who has any ideas?

[Northerner]

Quote: Korvin1000

This is all bad .. The bastards are strangling, on all fronts!

You can lose the battle! But you cannot lose the war! No panic! No matter how hard it was, but our cause, the righteous enemy will be defeated!

[raccoon]

Quote: Northerner

Who has any ideas?

one idea "ESCANDER"

[1812 1945]

Quote: raccoon

Quote: Northerner

Who has any ideas?

one idea "ESCANDER"

To Kiev.

[Russ69]

Quote: Northerner

No matter how hard it was, but our cause, the righteous enemy will be defeated!

And can, without pathos, explain how the militia can win?

[Snake831]

No way. They will strangle them there, and that’s all. Russia does not intervene, which means the carte blanche to the fascists. That's all, comrades. You can’t argue with a pitchfork on the tank.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: Russ69

Quote: Northerner

No matter how hard it was, but our cause, the righteous enemy will be defeated!

And can, without pathos, explain how the militia can win?

Maybe.! (Of course, not without the help of Russia) .. They know how to fight (and, in principle, there is something to judge by the large losses of dill both in live and in the mate ...) The junta is simply rushing for a break despite its victims and the civilian population ) The provocation with the Boeing now helps them a lot ... But as they say it is not yet evening!

[Russ69]

Quote: MIKHAN

Maybe! (Of course, not without the help of Russia)

The key word is "aid to Russia". Where is she? Real help, not semi-mythical.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: Russ69

Quote: MIKHAN

Maybe! (Of course, not without the help of Russia)

The key word is "aid to Russia". Where is she? Real help, not semi-mythical.

Watch the video photo .. (obviously they’re fighting not with double-barreled shotguns and Molotov cocktails) That's just how many air targets of dill are shot down ..?) You don’t especially run from MANPADS on the steppes .. (they just know where and when they will fly and where) Where do you think infa ...? Or spectacular attacks by Hailstones on the accumulation of troops and equipment .. New Russia on the territory is not too big and on the population too .. and it’s very difficult to create armored vehicles and artillery groupings so that they don’t cover it .. (guerrilla warfare tactics exhaust the enemy) And they will go to negotiations soon (on our terms) At least I really hope so .. (The discharge of Novorossia is actually the drain of Russia .. and Putin knows this and we also feel in our hearts .. infa is simple ..) The main thing is not to hysteria and not to panic (from that’s exactly what they want to achieve in the info-war) And the men fight normally and everyone understands .. (otherwise they would have fled for a long time ..)

[semen777]

Nothing threatens Russia's sovereignty and territorial integrity at present, Russian President Vladimir Putin said at a meeting of the Russian Security Council on Tuesday.
“The guarantee is, above all, the strategic balance of power in the world,” Interfax quotes Putin.
The head of state said that Russia strictly complies with international law in its obligations to partners and expects that other countries will also proceed from this. At the same time, Putin noted the need to gradually strengthen the defense capabilities of Russia, including in the Crimea and Sevastopol, where “it is necessary to rebuild the military infrastructure virtually” in connection with the activation of NATO at the Russian borders. “The grouping of NATO forces on the territory of Eastern European states is demonstrably increasing, including in the waters of the Baltic and Black Sea. The scale and intensity of operational and combat training is growing, ”Putin said.
Read more on Forbes.ru: http://www.forbes.ru/news/263457-putin-ne-uvidel-pryamoi-ugrozy-suverenitetu-ros


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[Gradus HuK]

You just need to determine who the enemy of our independent state is and declare it to the UN.

[Northerner]

Quote: Snake831

Maybe.! (Of course, not without the help of Russia) .. They know how to fight (and, in principle, there is something to judge by the large losses of dill both in live and in the mate ...) The junta is simply rushing for a break despite its victims and the civilian population ) The provocation with the Boeing now helps them a lot ... But as they say it is not yet evening!

[AQUARIUS 65]

Snake831
They will change them there, and that’s all. Russia does not intervene, which means carte blanche to the fascists ... There’s no arguing with a pitchfork on the tank.

In my opinion, dear, you have confused something. The pitchfork is the weapon of the "hero" Lyashko. And the militias, thank God (or someone else), have something to destroy the tanks. And the reports from the Donbass speak eloquently about this. And the fact that Russia by its non-interference gives carte blanche to punishers is also a controversial statement. "Intervention" is not necessary and does not always have to be direct. Yes, I feel sorry for the civilians of Donbass and not only them, but the residents of Russia will be even more sorry. We did not start this war, but the circumstances and the time will show who will end it.

[Northerner]

Quote: Russ69

And can, without pathos, explain how the militia can win?

Paphos is such an ancient Greek word which in my opinion is not even appropriate here (At least I did not invest)!
I don’t know when, I don’t know what losses and pathos you can’t name, but I’m 100% sure that the war for New Russia will not be lost! Look what tactics the militias chose! This tactic is to exhaust the enemy and to maintain combat effectiveness and the gradual buildup of forces by the militias. They clearly gain time for Russia, and confirmation of this is increasingly harsh statements against Russia, new sanctions, as well as unprecedented provocations, that is, America went to extreme measures! Please note that Europe lurked like a jackal and is waiting for who will win this battle!

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: Northerner

that tactic for exhausting the enemy and maintaining combat effectiveness and the gradual buildup of forces by the militias. They clearly gain time for Russia and

Correctly think ...! (The militia command is clearly operating in close connection with the special services .. exchange of information, etc.) No wonder dill announced additional. mobilization ... These are the things!

[Russ69]

Quote: Northerner

This tactic of exhausting the enemy and maintaining combat effectiveness and the gradual buildup of forces by the militias

Grouping militias, also give dill to group, which dramatically increases the density of artillery fire

They clearly gain time for Russia, and confirmation of this is increasingly harsh statements addressed to Russia, new sanctions, as well as unprecedented provocations

Hopefully the GDP will do something else besides idle talk or will it really help? Here I have all the illusions about it disappeared ...
God grant that I was mistaken ...

[alone]

Quote: Northerner

This tactic of exhausting the enemy and maintaining combat effectiveness and the gradual buildup of forces by the militias

They themselves believed in what they wrote? Open the map of hostilities and carefully look at the front line. What exhaustion are you talking about? What kind of buildup of forces can you talk about if there is a catastrophic lack of forces for defense. Can you explain to me what strategic role the Lysychansky ridge played in military terms?

How many do not shout halva, it will not become sweeter in the mouth from this.

[pahom54]

for Northerner:
... "but I am 100% sure that the war for Novorossiya will not be lost! ..." ...
I would like to believe me, but you need to be realistic, and no-one has yet won over cabinet-internet slogans ...
I repeat: I would like, and really want to believe in the victory of the militias, but without outside help, they lasted quite a long time ...

[RUSS]

Quote: Northerner

This tactic of exhausting the enemy and maintaining combat effectiveness and the gradual buildup of forces by the militias

One gets the feeling that you are from the past from the 40s of the 20th century.

[Korvin1000]

It is necessary to destroy, burn the boilers and erase the airfields, still not take it. The freed forces to throw on difficult sites. And for this we need at least grad

[qQQQ]

Quote: Russ69

And can, without pathos, explain how the militia can win?

No way. Do not let yourself be surrounded, and move to the border. Russia will not send troops, and without it it is not possible to defeat a bad but regular army, and even in the steppes.

[qQQQ]

Quote: Russ69

And can, without pathos, explain how the militia can win?

No way. Do not let yourself be surrounded, and move to the border. Russia will not send troops, and without it it is not possible to defeat a bad but regular army, and even in the steppes.

[Cormorants]

It seems to me that such an option, they will squeeze Lugansk to the rest will go to Donetsk, and then they will squeeze it out, without support from outside they will sweep away dill with their equipment, even though you have filled up a hundred tanks, they will drive another hundred, they’ll have a lot of cannon fodder, (plus mobilization is carried out) then the militia either to Russia or to the Crimea, and here it’s interesting, dill will probably be around Russia, or they’ll go to the Crimea, and here we can calmly send troops along with the militias to send the junta along with the mercenaries to hell, it’s hard to think about such an outcome, But the situation really is not in our favor.
Perhaps Strelka should be mobilized in Donetsk and Lugansk!

[alone]

Quote: Cormorants

it doesn’t seem like such an option, they’ll squeeze Lugansk into the rest, and then they’ll squeeze it out, without support from outside, they will sweep away dill with their equipment, even if you fill up a hundred tanks, they will drive another hundred, they’ll have a lot of cannon fodder, (plus mobilization is carried out) then the militia either to Russia or to the Crimea, and here it’s interesting, dill will probably be around Russia, or they’ll go to the Crimea, and here we can calmly send troops along with the militias to send the junta along with the mercenaries to hell, it’s hard to think about such an outcome, But the situation really is not in our favor.
Perhaps Strelka should be mobilized in Donetsk and Lugansk!

They’d rather cut off Donetsk from Lugansk. The first to try to deal with Donetsk (without a city). But the Ukrainians have the strength to solve the problem at the same time against Lugansk. On the front there is not a single sector where the situation is optimal. This is a fact. And in any direction disaster will happen.

[mark7]

Quote: Cormorants

Perhaps Strelka should be mobilized in Donetsk and Lugansk!

It was necessary to do this a long time ago, to close the border and announce mobilization, I know it’s difficult, but it’s a necessary measure, otherwise run away wherever you want. Red and white, Motherland or death, who don’t remember the mistakes of history, forcibly mobilized everyone. he is doomed to repeat them

[Cormorants]

On the other hand, the announcement of the third (!) Mobilization in Ukraine says that they already have the strength to end, and fierce attacks on all fronts attempt to take it abruptly, to conduct a quick operation if it’s so hard to hold out and dill fizzle out.
Help the Lord of New Russia!

[alone]

Quote: Cormorants

On the other hand, the announcement of the third (!) Mobilization in Ukraine says that they already have the strength to end, and fierce attacks on all fronts attempt to take it abruptly, to conduct a quick operation if it’s so hard to hold out and dill fizzle out.

They just want to finish it all faster. Yes, and mobilization affects only 20 thousand people. They will call on experienced people so as not to waste time. The Ukrainians ran out of steam, a favorite explanation. Yesterday I wrote about this. I will repeat.
Nobody fizzled out. They simply fix themselves on these lines, in order to exclude the loss of what has been achieved, gather forces into a fist, pull up the artel and armored vehicles, and then at hour "X" they start all over again. And the worst thing is that, due to the decrease in the controlled territories, the militia It is becoming more and more difficult to guess the direction of the main attack. The territory is shrinking and the density of troops is increasing. Now sit and guess where they will go. But one thing is clear as 2x2. they will not storm cities with armored vehicles. After Grozny 94th this is out of the question. They just take them in the ring.

[BOB044]

Everything will be as it should not break the heroes.

[KUOLEMA]

Yes, no

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Korvin1000

However, the militias lose the war. It would be necessary to respond to a new partial mobilization in Dill. Who has any ideas?

Today, Valery Bolotov ordered the militia to go on the counterattack. Ukrainians have created several bottlenecks (not bags) that will obviously cut and gouge into trash. So I hope everything will be tip-top.

[nikrandel]

As they entered, they will leave

[RBLip]

Quote: nikrandel

As they entered, they will leave

... will endure.

[Mhpv]

It is more difficult to repulse Lisichansk than to defend it, all the more so if the Nazis reinforce it with armor and artoy. You will have to practically become the same junta and only by defeating it you will be able to enter. There are still a lot of informers in the internet, let's see how their beloved "state", regardless of he will send for the couch merits that they will sing.
Very bad about Lysychansk and Severodonetsk.

[raccoon]

Quote: mhpv

It’s more difficult to beat off Lysychansk than to defend it, all the more so if the Natsik will strengthen it with armor and artillery. You’ll have to practically become the same junta and only after defeating it you can enter.

But what about the words about the capture of Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk, and Kiev ??? But what about the underground, no one has canceled the underground, and there are a lot of them, yesterday I talked with such people from Kiev !!!

[shasherin.pavel]

It is more difficult to defend against a stronger enemy than to recapture the city; if you encircle the city and prevent troops from leaving it, the battles will be difficult. Remember how our troops acted during the offensive, bypassed villages on both flanks and the Germans left the cities themselves, because they realized that they were nothing cut off from the supply of supplies. Partisan tactics since Denis Davydov’s times have been based on the idea that Davydov’s detachment could even fall into groups of three or four, but knowing where to assemble and at what time, the detachment immediately regained its strength and attacked again.

[Mhpv]

Do you even know the relief of Lysychansk before explaining to me about the partisans and the environment? The city is divided by a huge beam, formerly called Lisya Balka, from the east Seversky Donets, there is a big difference in altitude, and the rest of the steppe, where visibility is far from good. There’s a video of the refinery bombing from filmed far away and everything is visible. Natsiks as militias will sit in the city and without using artillery and the like cannot approach the city. That's what I'm talking about.

[Valexav]

I would like to read other news: how the army of Novorosiya liberates the cities of Slavyansk, Kramatorsk and others captured by the junta. But .. If there is no REAL help from Russia, then there will be only such news. Alas.
Emotions ran out of inaction of power. Mats too. There is a void inside ..

[raccoon]

Yes, why are you all so dead ?! The Red Army was retreating all the way to Moscow, Kutuzov "leaked" Moscow, as you like to say and WHAT ?! All is not lost yet, there is such a concept as a "tactical retreat" otherwise all the peaceful will be put by the National Guard from the Grad!

[ya.seliwerstov2013]

To step back to return again.
And, having returned, to crush the enemy.

[Meckajiuhe]

Next Facebook Warriors?

[IOwTZ]

Any offensive will sooner or later be exhausted if the offensive does not have reserves. Kiev pastry chef will soon announce cattle mobilization.

[Fuse]

He has already announced:

Rada supported presidential decree on partial mobilization
Read more here: http://112.ua/golovni-novyni/rada-podderzhala-ukaz-prezidenta-o-chastichnoy-mobi
lizacii-90974.html

Rada increased the age limit of military servicemen in stock
Read more here: http://112.ua/glavnye-novosti/rada-uvelichila-predelnyy-vozrast-voennoobyazannyh
-v-zapase-91088.html

[Deniska999]

Rumor has it that these mobilized will be sent to the Crimea.

[Roman 1977]

Dzerzhinsk after street fighting.

Fascists at the burnt out city council of Dzerzhinsk.

The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine in social networks posted a spirit-lifting photo of the driver Mikola, with the assignment of the title of "Maestro" and his truck with an original additional booking on the doors, on which the notes of the anthem of Ukraine are applied, and on the tank - the words of the anthem

Well, this is what happens to those who disagree, today's beating of the deputy from Pratia of Regions Levchenko in Zrada

[3vs]

In the parliament, everything is as usual - scuffle.

[Sword]

Submitted 19 minutes ago

Happy Militia @Pssaka

11 minutes

Grew up. news throws disuse about the capture of Lysychansk !! The guys stayed there. They defeated the tank offensive! # Lugansk

[Thompson]

Yes. It seems that the affairs of our militias are bad. The balance of power and armament played a negative role. Like it or not, Putin seems to have leaked them. Sorry the wrong word

[shasherin.pavel]

Quote: Thompson

Putin seems to have leaked them.

We have heard this for the third month already. Oh, bama could not support Potroshenko, after the press conference of the Min.Ob. RF, for politics it is not even a blow "below the belt", but with a boot on "Sniff Eggs". Politics is such a thing that a minute delay in receiving an ambassador is already noted in a message to the head of government, as a "note of dissatisfaction" with the actions. And here ... the president, knowing that Potroshenko has already prepared a speech about "terrorists", confines himself to a few words and does not give the word to "Roshenskiy sucker" - this is a failure of the prepared "defeat of terrorists". Oh, bama is not able to figure out what to do now. It was correctly noted that amers very difficult to change their actions and most often act as a carbon copy (here we have to recall the US judicial proceedings, when the verdict is rendered focusing on similar actions earlier), that is, they do not calculate the options of A.V.S. Because OH, bama was at a loss in front of the microphone, when he felt that he had read the beginning of the prepared speech and could not continue, because he understood that he would look very stupid in a day or two. Let's remember Stalin: Churchill with Gen. The headquarters thought for seven days how to present Stalin with the decision to land in Italy, and came up with 4 positive moments from this offensive. When Stalin heard from Churchill the decision to land in Italy, he took a drag on his pipe twice and gave out six positive moments from such a landing. This suggests that Stalin had miscalculated this scenario in advance. Oh, bama could not even calculate two versions of events, and he perfectly understood that in a few more days or a week, it was he who would become the person who supported the Ukrainian terrorists.

[Rigla]

Only the allocation by the militia of large forces for maneuvering - sabotage war will allow forcing ukrovoyak and seize the initiative. Sitting in cities under art and airstrikes is a defeat.

[Finches]

As it is customary to say on the Internet, I stress 100500 times that fighting, even with a wretched but regular army, is extremely difficult!
The only thing I want to ask is ukrovlast, they took Slavyansk, they will take Donetsk, Lugansk ... and then what ??? According to European laws, Poroshenko will face Miloshivich’s fate, it’s obvious! The USA will surrender it first! If even earlier its own people will not strangle!

[Fuse]

Well, dill doesn't seem to hide what's next. Then the return of Crimea with the support of the so-called "civilized world".

[Finches]

Crimea is a serious show! But the same is not the answer to the question, what next ??

[aristarh]

While dill is at war with New Russia, there will be no war in the Crimea! On two fronts they can’t. The conclusion suggests itself: we need help from New Russia! after the defeat of Novorossia, the army of many thousands who learn to kill and already unwilling to work will need to take something or she will eat and ask for the dough, then the junta will drop it into the Crimea.

[vadimN]

Quote: Finches

The only thing I want to ask is ukrovlast, they took Slavyansk, they will take Donetsk, Lugansk ... and then what ???

And who else does not know? The whole project is tailored for a good war in Europe, so no one intends to stop. Then there will be the "liberation" of Crimea ... Then - the "primordial" Ukrainian lands on the Don, in the Kursk and Belgorod regions. Someone else does not understand that this is serious and for a long time ...?!

[vlum]

Well, okay - the liberation of the Crimea ... Let's say. And what about these territories? Here is Slavyansk, cut into the trash. Worth it. Empty, you could say. No one is rebuilding infrastructure. Other cities are the same. Some terrorists broke the refinery, somewhere the mines were broken. Bridges are blown up. In Donetsk, destruction.
This is what it says "and then what." Squeezing out the militias, if everyone writes so pessimistically - will it be in which direction? And where they are going to be squeezed out, they are not there yet. What will happen when they appear there? And who will destroy the infrastructure there, that's the most interesting thing.

[vadimN]

If the information is true that the lands of the South-East of Ukraine have long been promised to American corporations for the production of shale gas (and, supposedly, a contract has been signed), then all the actions of ukrovoyak acquire logic and meaning.
No one is going to rebuild cities and mines. The EU does not need coal. This is a product of the last century and with current technologies it is not required in large quantities, even in metallurgy. Cities and their inhabitants are also not particularly needed. It does not require so many people in shale mining. Moreover, the fewer people inhabit the area, the better. There are fewer claims to the environment, which will be trashed into the trash in the first six months of production by hydraulic fracturing.

[PiP]

Quote: vadimN

And who else doesn’t know? The whole project is geared towards a good war game in Europe

Said a hundred times. The West knows only one cure for the "economic crisis" and that is war. Why strain and try to find a way out of the crisis when history gives a hint.
Something like the graph

After the war, there is no immediate economic recovery.

[Finches]

Here, I think you have gone too far, we are all the same, the poorly poor nuclear power and our military doctrine even involves the delivery of preventive nuclear strikes, albeit tactical, but enough for ukrovoyak! In this situation, Europe will impose and will hardly harness it for real, and in the USA, not all Psaki will hardly agree to a nuclear war!
Moreover, given the fact that two allies and the same from the nuclear club, who pin ... can not stand, we have is China and India!

[vadimN]

The doctrine is a doctrine, but within the framework of a cramped Europe, it is unlikely that anyone will dare to apply even tactical nuclear weapons. How then to live here? Remember Chernobyl ... So, I think, the calculation is based on the fact that the war will be waged by conventional means until the complete exhaustion of both Russia and Europe. In any case, this is in the hands of the United States, the territory of which will not be affected, and frantic debts will be written off for participating in the restoration of post-war Europe ... Once again for a century and a half.

[Finches]

I don’t believe that the prosperous German burghers or gays of Amsterdam will be delighted with the war with Russia! Therefore, most likely Europe will not go for it - the petty people are there now!
As for Ukraine, in the field of conventional weapons we have a definite advantage! Therefore, the attack of Ukraine on Russia by declaring warriors is considered unlikely.

[shasherin.pavel]

Quote: vadimN

Next will be the "liberation" of Crimea ..

Next will be ... every country joining ... not even entering, but joining the EU, should switch to the EU armament. So, Ukraine is waiting for rearmament of the army in Europe’s armored personnel carriers, small arms from NATO, and even cartridges from NATO, and not at the expense of NATO, but at the expense of Ukraine. And then it will be necessary to alter the railway under the Eurostandard and so on and so forth.

[shasherin.pavel]

Quote: Finches

Poroshenko awaits the fate of Miloshivich

And here you are wrong. Even if Potroshenko destroys half of Ukraine and floods her with blood, they can only judge him in New Russia, and Europe will justify him in any way. The Hague court, this is a pre-prepared decision, which is written before the arrest and only for those who are the enemy of Geyrope. After condemning Potroshenko, Geyropa will have to condemn those who supported him: Merkel, Bleer, Oh, bam ... And you can imagine it ?!

[Finches]

On the whole, I spoke of Potrosheko as a war criminal, and it seems to me that the West will surrender him. Not today and not tomorrow, but when elections will be held in the USA and elections of heads of state in leading European countries will be held. Poroshenko will sacrifice precisely in order to justify himself in the eyes of his constituents!

[Evkur]

Sorry for the young Ukrainian guys in captivity and stupidity, many die - cannon fodder! It is necessary to hold on a little more and mothers will arrange a second maidan!

[shasherin.pavel]

I also feel sorry for the banned Ukrainians. You look at YouTube what is shown on Kiev TV. Although I understand that if you do not want to fight, then you can be reported to Russia. But they also remember the footage of how the Russians "torture the disgruntled Crimeans" and they believe it. If the militias feel sorry for them and do not finish them off, how can we act differently here?

[Cormorants]

It is necessary to introduce troops, urgently!

[Finches]

Already have a steady feeling that it's late!
But something needs to be done, and not just scattered statements about our peacefulness, which turn into even more blood!

[T80UM1]

I already wrote that after the discharge of New Russia there will be a seizure of Crimea, and again the Russian Federation will wipe itself out with declarations of peace and concessions to the territory. Was it worth starting the Crimean adventure ???

[zao74]

This is bad, but not a disaster. They are already announcing the mobilization of "cannon fodder", which means the mothers will raise a howl. If we prove the guilt of Ukraine with Boeing in the near future, the howl will rise in Europe.

[Fuse]

In topic:

Mothers and wives of servicemen picket AP demanding rotation
Read more here: http://112.ua/glavnye-novosti/materi-i-zheny-voennosluzhaschih-piketiruyut-ap-s-
trebovaniem-rotacii-91123.html

[Finches]

But who are the mothers and when did they listen ?? Ukroelites will not call gold youth anywhere, but who will hear what kind of milkmaid from Khatsepetovka ?? Garni lads from the Right Sector will come in case of emergency, this is where the whole protest will end!

[Mountain shooter]

Events are developing rapidly. The militias lack the strength to hold such a wide front.
For ukrami, after all, there is no country. Novorossiya should be called up, only whites had volunteer troops in civilian service. The result is known. At the beginning, they also wanted to make the Red Army voluntary. (Zhukov, in "Memories and Reflections" has about this).
Did not work.

[shasherin.pavel]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

White only volunteer troops

Vodopyanov in the 19 year served as a water carrier at the airport under the contract and received money for it, now I don’t remember the numbers, I forgot, but you can re-read it. This also surprised me back in Soviet times, but there are facts that the Red Army paid contractors. Have you watched a new film about Zheleznyakov? Remember the shots as children discuss Zheleznyakov’s feat, the impression is that this is 32 or 37 year, and they are discussing a fresh article.

[Russ69]

But our supreme, pitifully muttered ... And the EU at that time agreed on new sanctions. Stsuki, how much more our government will humiliate our country about the betrayal of Novorossi, and so everything is clear ...

MOSCOW, Jul 22 - RIA News. Russian President Vladimir Putin considers the logic of the West regarding the situation in Ukraine strange and unacceptable, according to which Russia is offered to come to terms with the deaths of civilians or threatened with sanctions.
Speaking about Ukraine at a meeting of the Security Council of the Russian Federation, Putin recalled that "people came to power in an armed, unconstitutional way, after the coup they held elections, but in a strange way, for some reason, those who financed or carried out the coup were again at the head of the state."
"A part of the country's population, which does not agree with such a development, is also trying to suppress by force without any attempt to hold at least some negotiations," Putin said.
"And at the same time they almost give ultimatums to Russia: either give us, allow us, let a part of this population, which is ethnically, culturally, historically close to Russia, to be destroyed, or we will impose some kind of sanctions against you. Strange logic, of course, it is absolutely unacceptable, "the head of state said

RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/world/20140722/1017078906.html#ixzz38CVtl7Br


BRUSSELS, Jul 22 - RIA Novosti, Vladimir Dobrovolsky. EU foreign ministers will adopt a new sanctions list on Tuesday, which will include legal entities and individuals from the Russian Federation on the basis of expanded criteria, Gunnar Wiegand, head of the European and Central Asian departments of the European Foreign Policy Service (EMU), said.

РИА Новости http://ria.ru/world/20140722/1017075999.html#ixzz38CXCZ3c9

[vadimN]

Quote: Russ69

MOSCOW, 22 Jul - RIA News. Russian President Vladimir Putin believes ...

... blah blah blah ... We've been listening to this for almost half a year ... What do we want to achieve with such statements? Do not care for the West - they do not listen and bend their line. His people are already tired of empty phrases ... It would be better to be silent.

"... Russia is offered to come to terms with the death of the civilian population, or they threaten with sanctions ..." Well done! Less than six months later, the civilian population is dying, and he "saw the light"! Russia does not offer to reconcile! Russia has already reconciled and thereby untied the hands of the ukrofazists.

And sanctions will still be, under any pretext, with or without reason. Just because the goal is to slaughter Russia, and they are fulfilling it. And they don’t care if there is a reason for sanctions. And Russia is all surprised - and for what do we get sanctions ...!?

"If you are undeservedly offended, come back and deserve it" (an old children's saying).

[vorobey]

Quote: vadimN

. blah blah blah ... We've been listening to this for almost half a year ... What do we want to achieve with such statements?

You shouted the same thing about Syria ... dear ...

[jovanni]

... Russian President Vladimir Putin considers the West’s logic on the situation in Ukraine strange and unacceptable, according to which Russia is being offered to put up with the deaths of civilians ...

Along the way, the offer was accepted!

[ksv36]

Quote: Korvin1000

Who has any ideas?

Go to the militia. Will arrange such an idea? Pancake...

[Ofitser_V]

There is a leader for uniting and collecting volunteers !!!

[P-38]

As they entered, they will leave. This is not a war of regular armies, but a civil war. Reported about Severodonetsk, and they are now being urinated there.

[rotmistr60]

I fully support.

[Rigla]

It is necessary that Russia would help financially, to pay as an option 1000 euros per month to the militias if, then surely the number of militias will grow strong.

[Sword]

At the moment, the size of the militia will not solve anything. Kiev Kaganate uses terror tactics in relation to the civilian population of cities, shelling residential neighborhoods. This primarily affects the morale of the militias when they realize that they cannot protect people. Even massive deliveries of heavy weapons will not rectify the situation; there is no time to prepare calculations and crews. If Russia does not begin a military operation in the Donbass, the uprising will soon come to an end.
These are my sad conclusions.
Who thinks that can dissuade me? (((

[kergudu straight]

Quote: Rigla

It is necessary that Russia would help financially, to pay as an option 1000 euros per month to the militias if, then surely the number of militias will grow strong.

I’m only answering one question, why does Russia owe someone something, do we really borrow something? I don’t remember something like this, Russia didn’t seem to ask you to help with money and heavy weapons not in Chechnya , not in Ossetia, not in Beslan, I don’t argue you helped. but you’re not against us, but against us, so what help are you not asking now, but demanding, threatening, they’ll go to the Crimea, because they’ll come and will not leave , in Crimea there is a shortage of fertilizer, so we will not bury Natsik deeply, I am amazed how you hang up your problems in Russia, well, Russia will help you and what will get, two republics that decide what needs to be restored, again on money of Russia and she will ultimately remain guilty again

[shasherin.pavel]

Quote: Kergudo Straight

but against us

Sending Ukrainian tanks to Georgia. They want to build sovereign republics with their economies and politics. Maybe they even want to do better than ours, but not with us. And many would like to drag us into a confrontation. But the third, even the fourth, superfluous.

[rasputin17]

Dear Camarades !! Not everyone is as bad as eloquently painting Ukrainian media! Do not panic and despondency! You can lose the battle but not the war! The decadent mood does not suit the soldiers and their support! The enemy will be defeated victory will be ours!

[Finches]

God forbid!
But here, before my departure on vacation, I saw enough of the refugees who were accommodated in our town - healthy foreheads, from the opening of the store they are already buying beer and they wanted to spit on Donbass and Lugansk! And how many such "patriots" from the South-East are hanging out in search of a better life in our country and at the expense of Russia? And how many of these "patriots" hang out in Donetsk and Lugansk?
Therefore, this is not a civil war to the fullest, namely the war of the junta and militia troops, mainly consisting of, let's face it, the same soldier of fortune from various countries, only fighting not for money, but for belief! But this, unfortunately, is not the people of Donbass and Lugansk!

[MichaEL78]

That Dill is left upon retreat ...
[/ Quote]

[Book]

Quote: ValexAV

I would like to read other news: how the army of Novorosiya liberates the cities of Slavyansk, Kramatorsk and others captured by the junta. But .. If there is no REAL help from Russia, then there will be only such news. Alas.
Emotions ran out of inaction of power. Mats too. There is a void inside ..

Somehow it sounds ugly ... You sit on the Internet and read how our brothers, at the cost of their lives, are trying to fight off the ugros, and you want "other news". How do the guys from Donbass, with an army ten times smaller and without proper equipment, attack dill and throw their hands and feet at their dead comrades? Do you want such news or what?
No need to wait for help from Russia already? We would like to help, we’d already help, maybe they help, but it’s not enough for the junta to give up its desire to stop attacking.
This is all to the fact that if there is no real opportunity to help, you do not need to write this, as it is vile.
I apologize in advance for the angry reply. And I apologize if I offended anyone, I’m not necessarily right

[frcdkfl047]

Without real help, the guys will not be able to stretch. It is necessary for official Russia to establish constant and worthy military assistance.

[Russ69]

Quote: frcdkfl047

Without real help, the guys will not be able to stretch. It is necessary for official Russia to establish constant and worthy military assistance.

This, you tell the Kremlin ... They think, in a completely different way ...

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: Russ69

Quote: frcdkfl047

Without real help, the guys will not be able to stretch. It is necessary for official Russia to establish constant and worthy military assistance.

This, you tell the Kremlin ... They think, in a completely different way ...

Have you been so lately lately ..? Stop barking and screaming ..and throw stones at the Kremlin! What you don’t read everywhere, you and everyone disappeared, Putin leaked everyone .. The Kremlin is to blame .. Maidan wanted in Russia ..? or something I don’t understand ..? Did Novodvorskaya attend the funeral? ..You got honestly already!

[T80UM1]

Yes, it would be better than the Maidan toothless power ... And you zadolbili your cheer-patriotic posts, from the word halva sweeter in your mouth will not. If New Russia falls, Crimea will fall.

[shaman-25rus]

Entrance-rupe-exit-five. Why am I doing this? They paid for their entrance with their lives. You will have to exit too. Yes, and breathing Donnbass air can be calculated sickly penalty. For example, for every hour of breathing, there are ten right-wingers.

[zzz]

Quote: Finches

According to European laws, Poroshenko is waiting for the fate of Miloshivich, it’s obvious! The USA will surrender it first!

And then they will put Kolomoisky or Yulka instead.

[Finches]

As an option!
It is bad that Russia, in this case, will not have a vote!

[Agent 008]

Quote: Evkur

It is necessary to hold on a little more and mothers will arrange a second maidan!

Is all hope for mothers left? Yes ... ah ... ah ...

[Bobfia]

www. lefigaro. fr/actualites/2014/07/21/01001-20140721QCMWWW00108-pensez-vous-que-les-russes-so
ient-responsables-du-crash-du-vol-mh-17-de-la-malaysia-airlines.php
People, the Le Figaro website is voting. If you do not agree that Russia is responsible for the crash, answer non. Your support is needed.

[Russ69]

22.07.2014/16/50 XNUMX:XNUMX (Moscow time) Operational report of the DNI militia.

Donetsk airport is blocked by the DNR militia. The release attempt failed. During the fighting, the enemy’s armored groups suffered serious losses.

The onset of the Ukrainian army near Donetsk stopped. In a number of areas, the militia managed to advance further the positions they had previously held.

The enemy is preparing to storm Gorlovka. Yesterday's attack on the militia position was repelled with serious losses for the enemy.

[Gagarin]

Now everyone will attack me, but I will write from a settlement in the Donbass in the ATO area.
Many of the militias REALLY believe that:

- the battle is lost it’s only a matter of time,
- Putin leaked us,
- the Russian Federation will not introduce troops (this is clear to everyone) and the militia’s mechanized ice rink is simply not able to stop the army,
- many residents do not want to see militias in their cities since fighting is almost meaningless but they bring guaranteed ruins to cities,
- pensions are either not paid or delayed, banks almost do not work,
- the police removed themselves,
- among the motley groups of militias, "spinning cars" and a banal reket really thrive.

Here is such a real situation on the ground without the mess of any propaganda and sympathy of either side. And with such a mood, only a bitter defeat can happen ... the train stations are full of refugees with children with their mothers, and here we are in places just in afig.
Reports of a wrecked junta tank somewhere near Donetsk no longer affect the alignment and almost do not please ...
Many expect something from a Boeing investigation - do not dream, the culprit has already been appointed.
I ASK all the patriots cheers - what's next?
MINUS.

[rasputin17]

I ASK all the patriots cheers - what's next?
MINUS.

H.R.E.N.O.V.a !!! One thing I can say is that if there is no success and help to the militia and real actions on the part of the Kremlin, then the sacrificed lives were in vain, fascism won and the shed blood let it fall not only on the junta, but also drip on the heads of the Kremlin politicians who pissed off for their w ... and their bills with villas over the hill, betraying not only the people of New Russia but also their people in Russia !! It is evident that such was the price of joining the Crimea! And to be honest, after leaving the helm of the power of the Communist Party, only tolerasts and crap democrats go to the helm!

[Finches]

Why minus it if the people of Donetsk and Lugansk really were not going to defend themselves! I ask you not to be offended by me, I am not a nationalist, but when we were shown numerous lines at all the channels in the referendum on independence, and at the ballot boxes with enthusiasm and tenderness the old women were interviewed that everything would be fine in the independent Lugansk region, what local people thought ? Most likely, having looked at the Crimea locals and thought, now the Russians will come and will do everything for us: increase pensions, index salaries, etc.! There will be fireworks and holidays! But Gubarev and Tsarev in dirty cotton will cry on Putin’s shoulder in the Kremlin!
And here once it’s all wrong! It turns out that you have to fight with weapons in your hands! Yeah, wait - the locals went the other way, went to Russia like refugees: give me some work, arrange children for school, give me a roof and give me some money for the first time ...
It’s a pity for the dead people and I clearly stand on the position that it was necessary to send troops in order to avoid bloodshed, but the question remains - how much can I, my dear Ukrainians, live by the principle, my hut from the edge ??

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: Gagarin

I ASK all the patriots cheers - what's next?
MINUS.

I minus ..! If everyone here begins to whine and panic .. There will be nothing good! Yes, it's hard .. yes there are a lot of victims (especially civilians) Russia helps! There will be no tank columns .. (everything will be much simpler.) And there is no need to complain .. (in Russia, we have healthy peasants-Ukrainians half a lemon who sit out at least .. We don’t need to blame Russia for your problems .. We do this everything possible to the detriment of yourself ..! Stop squealing! are you all like a chain broke .. already got it!

[Wladimir71]

Do not worry and do not envy, we, too, will grab our not sickly, the time will come. Rule die yourself and help out a friend yet no one has canceled.

[His]

We must proceed to sabotage war. Explosives in the Donbass enough for everyone. Nothing to be done Svidomo themselves choose this path. Russian can not be broken. In Slavyansk, someone is shooting. Plus, the explosion of a minibus at the ukrov checkpoint, this is a signal.

[Klan]

No need to panic, guys ... and decadent sentiments ... in some way, but in international affairs the Kremlin will shut up the belt! .. there are both Lavrov and S. Ivanov ... and the GDP today is not at all reason to fall in the eyes of all this greasy-striped scum ... we don't know much ... what was the Security Council doing there today? what have you decided? .. to convene an emergency meeting of the Security Council in order to state that, "There are no threats to the Russian Federation today" ??? .. oh-eh?

[fox21h]

Got their excuses, already sick of them!

[RUSLAT]

Time is working for Novorosia! Moreover, the city was not taken, but the militia left themselves, these are different things! In 1941 they also retreated, battles were fought on the outskirts of Moscow (now it is Moscow). We ended up in Berlin and Prague. If the "soyuznichki" had not interfered, then they would have reached Madrid ...... So everything is still ahead, but Novorosia needs help ...... And on a state scale ...... NATO supplies the junta .. ..

[Russ69]

Quote: RUSLAT

And they didn’t take the cities, but the militia themselves left

They leave, that from a good life or what?

[RUSLAT]

And you read what the militias write: - ..... We are on a mission, and men, young men in slippers are sitting and drinking beer ...... Someone must die, and someone with a beer is bastard .. ... But Kiev’s democracy will get full pants, they themselves will run into the militia ...... And the way out of encirclement and flight, very different things .....

[KBR109]

The fronts are torn like stale threads, and not in Galicia - near Moscow, the captain obey your wife, before Russia - stay right ... Moscow Kremlin to the Supreme Commander ...

[Agent 008]

Putin said: "We will do everything to influence the militia" ... That is, translating into simple Russian - "we will offer the militias to surrender ..."

This is what is called "drain" ...

[work67]

I don’t think so. Maybe we’re working on the contrary, so they’ll reach kuev.

[Associate Professor]

Quote: Agent 008

Putin said: "We will do everything to influence the militia" ... That is, translating into simple Russian - "we will offer the militias to surrender ..."

This is what is called "drain" ...

Why do you give only a part of the words?
He talked about helping to investigate the destruction of a Boeing.
Russia will do everything in its power to fully and comprehensively investigate the crash of the Malaysian Boeing in eastern Ukraine, Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Tuesday.
“Of course, this is a terrible tragedy. Russia will do everything that depends on it for a full-fledged, comprehensive, deep and transparent investigation. We are called upon to influence the militia. absolutely not enough, "Putin said at a meeting of the Security Council.


RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/politics/20140722/1017064507.html#ixzz38CrGsUBx

[Roman 1977]

Poroshenko proposed the establishment of the Order of Heroes of Heavenly Hundred
The order will be awarded to people who have shown courage and patriotism during the Revolution of Dignity and the protection of the territorial integrity of Ukraine. President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko proposed to the Verkhovna Rada to establish the Order of the Heroes of the Heavenly Hundred. This was reported by the press service of the presidential administration. Poroshenko submitted to the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine a bill "On Amendments to Article 7 of the Law of Ukraine" On State Awards of Ukraine ", which provides for perpetuating the memory of those who fell during the Revolution of Dignity by establishing a new Order of the Heroes of the Heavenly Hundred in their honor

http://news.liga.net/news/politics/2309905-poroshenko_predlozhil_uchredit_orden_

geroev_nebesnoy_sotni_.htm

Its main advantage will be that it will be handed over to the relatives of the deceased for the timelessness. Instead of allowances, pensions and other m.os.c.a.a..lsko-komunyatsky distortions. To Heroes - Glory!

[Oprychnik]

And what's in the middle of this "award"? Donut hole? And vaasche resembles a small CD with records of the heroes' exploits.

[Status]

Quote: Klan

to convene an emergency meeting of the Security Council in order to state that, "There are no threats to the Russian Federation today" ??? .. oh-eh?

discover
Exactly. "Partners" should hear first-hand - everything is fine, keep up the good work!

[Dave36]

The thing is that Ukraine does not need victory in Novorossia, it needs a war with Russia ... No matter how Putin would hide his head .. she would get it .. Monomakh’s hat was heavy ... since I was ready to take Crimea .. be ready to fight ...
This is not a pearl burn on TV ...

[Gagarin]

Here in the summaries, everything looks very encouraging, but in the field everything is much more lousy. Take a look at the changing maps and you’ll understand, the last two hotbeds of resistance Lugansk and Donetsk are closed by rings and boiled in bloody cauldrons, the media will appoint militias as the culprits of all the victims and wash their hands, Novorossia repeats the path of Yugoslavia ...

Quote: MiCHaEL78

The offensive of the Ukrainian army near Donetsk is stopped.

[jurassic61]

There is no point in comparing with Yugoslavia foreigners bombed the state there, in Ukraine the destruction of their own people is underway with the support of foreigners.
What kind of objectivity on their part are we calling for, but it immediately became clear that there would be no objective investigation, not about fighting, not about the crimes of the junta until the moment when it was not profitable for the USA. They have less and less time going to extreme measures.
I don’t know what Putin should do right in this situation, everyone understands perfectly well that every step will be answered to which you must answer, etc., even sitting in front of my computer it’s not so easy for me to give up and say yes, send troops, although I’m ready go to defend the borders of their native land.

[Ofitser_V]

There is a leader for uniting and collecting volunteers !!!

[vlad-ns]

Quote: raccoon

And yet, for two months now I have been fighting on the Internet (VKontakte) with Svidomo, no one is helping, it happened right away with five TORLEI at the same time .... unfairly like that, and yesterday I finally helped !!!!!!! And this someone: an ordinary Chechen, the two of us together brought such a fuss last night on the forums ....... GESTURE !!!!! I am ashamed of the Russians, YOU have a powerful weapon in their hands: keyboard!!!!!!!! GO Fight on the forums, if not yet sitting in the trenches !!!

at the time the Americans and Bandera supporters exclaim: "GLORY TO RUSSIA for drowning in the blood of Russians in Ukraine."

[v245721]

I do not believe not a single word. To these bitches to believe, not to respect yourself

[siberalt]

Why panic? The war goes into a protracted phase. But it costs a lot of money. It is not yet known how everything will turn. Already August is on the nose.

[Russ69]

Quote: siberalt

The war goes into a protracted phase. But it costs a lot of money.

And in New Russia, what resources are more than in the ruin?

[MichaEL78]

Quote: agent xnumx

Putin said: "We will do everything to influence the militia" ... That is, translating into simple Russian - "we will offer the militias to surrender ..."

This is what is called "drain" ...

Yes ... I did not expect ... Although after 3 thousandth regret from the screens of our TV on behalf of Lavrov ... Already I stop wondering everything ...

[v245721]

I heard Ivan ringing, but did not understand where he was.

[kuzia rocker]

time needs time even if it is categorically not enough

[Agent 008]

Somehow everyone forgot about Putin's "Cunning Plan", but I DIDN'T FORGET! I'm sitting ... waiting ... When it works ...

[Dave36]

But it works already ... Skilled workers ... doctors, for example, come and work in the Russian hinterland, keep in mind ... Slavs ... Russia has limited the flow of Uzbeks and Tajiks ... I think we’ll take another half lyama people. In fact, the South-East has been killed. ..
but ... Crimea, my friends .. Crimea ... and there they will drag us into the war .. so we’ll fight ..

[Rigla]

Quote: siberalt

Why panic? The war goes into a protracted phase. But it costs a lot of money. It is not yet known how everything will turn. Already August is on the nose.

Against the Russians any creatures will find money

[Mol]

Well, Putin said today: "Of course, there is, of course, no direct military threat to the sovereignty or integrity of our country, the guarantee of this, first of all, is the strategic balance of forces in the world" ... According to the President, the language of ultimatums is increasingly being heard against Russia However, Moscow proceeds from the premise that problems should be resolved through dialogue. http://ria.ru/politics/20140722/1017064308.html
Well, if the guarantor said, then in vain we are worried. In the 41st, however, Joseph Vissarionovich also spoke about the need not to succumb to provocations ... Then, of course, the Soviet people, primarily the Russian people, paid an exorbitant price for this, well, then the common people. And this time, when Bandera will not trample in Crimea, Putin and Co. will stop them, and the people are simple. And how we relate to the lives of ordinary citizens, we already know. One commoner more, one less ... I would also like to understand about the dialogue of whom with whom, how many times has Putin lost his count, Putin broadcasts ?! What kind of balance ??? Civilians with tanks and guns of punishers ?! When Ukrainian guns speak, what dialogue can be ?! No, I understand - the giraffe is big, he knows better, but you don’t need to do idiots from ordinary Russian citizens either!

[Sword]

LPR, Lugansk. Bolotov's statement: "All military formations to start a counteroffensive." 22.07.2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIyh3ESqEfA

[Korvin1000]

What will they attack? Something little to believe. If our oligarchs helped the MLRS or something more feasible, they could forgive perestroika

[alone]

There is nothing to counterattack. The statement was made from operational despair. Now the forces of Lugansk have just got the most catastrophic situation. The controlled territory is rapidly decreasing. And as we all noticed, no one is talking about a breakthrough into the operational space. I think everyone already understood what operational space means .
P.S. a counterattack is possible only when the forces of the belligerents are at least equal. When as many as 10 respond to the shot of one mortar, this is not a counterattack, but a slaughter. There are not enough forces to throw them under artillery volleys.

[Liv An]

What, and then ready to feed the West through these very oligarchs?

[sergio6769]

they will help ... all our blood will be washed ... the oligarchs are the main enemies of Russia