After the Russian invasion of Ukraine, the Third World War will follow.

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The Third World War will not begin with the invasion of Islamist hordes from somewhere in Central Asia in 2015, as analysts had believed before the Ukrainian crisis. Now political scientists believe that the United States is implementing a strategy for the collapse of the European Union. Possible and a blow to Russia from Ukraine. The fall of "Boeing", which was allegedly hit by "pro-Russian separatists" armed with the Kremlin - why not? Foreign analysts argue that NATO is counting on the Russian invasion of Ukraine. And what about the invasion? That's right, she is the Third World.

On the channel "Culture" 17 July scientists discussed the upcoming date: 100 anniversary of the outbreak of the First World War.

“Practically all countries did not want war, but it did happen,” said the director of the Institute for stories RAS Alexander Chubaryan. “And this is very relevant today, it raises the question of the mechanism of the origin of a major conflict.”

The exhibition “The Last Battle of the Russian Empire” will open in the Moscow Historical Museum. “A monument will be unveiled on Poklonnaya Hill, dedicated to the victims and heroes of the First World War,” said Yuri Petrov, director of the Institute of Russian History, RAS. “In Kaliningrad, this monument is already standing, and a lot of memorials are being created in the battle zone - this is Belarus, the Baltic countries, and our Kaliningrad region”.

In addition, the theme of world wars was touched on. And in the "application" to the modern geopolitical realities.

According to Alexander Chubaryan, the "idea of ​​punishment" was the impetus for the beginning of the First World War. “In general, the idea of ​​punishing the country is absolutely unconstructive and completely immoral. But Austria-Hungary after the murder of the archduke declared that she would certainly punish. And this idea of ​​punishing the country, the desire to present a different account to another country - it still exists, ”the historian quotes. Utro.ru.

In 1914, the participants in the outbreak of the conflict were sure: they would have to fight a little bit. However, “local interests” led to a “big war”: “They did not think that there would be such a big war, but one of the bloodiest conflicts of the 20th century arose. And today we need to understand what local interests can lead to. ”

According to Professor George Malinetsky, a hundred years ago, Russia had much more weight in world politics, and today the picture is different: “Today 32% of the world's population support Russia, 39% are bad, while the US supports 62%. Therefore, now, when we are going to the Third World War, we are in a very difficult situation - we have come under the influence of the myth that the world is multi-polar. In fact, this is not the case - the US spent 20 years on armament more than the whole world, taken together ... And Russia was ready for the First World War better than the Third ... "

The scientist also recalled that Russia is the home only for 2% of the global population, and these two percent give only 2,9% of the global gross domestic product. Excluding nuclear weapons The ratio of the power of Russia to the countries of NATO - 1 to 60.

According to a scientist who leads Utro.ru, Russian political analysts predicted a blow to Russia from Central Asia in the 2015 year, but Ukraine faces a blow: “Events in Ukraine are developing like an avalanche. Americans are in a hurry, they are losing influence, they are following the path of late Rome, and we have to hope for the best, but expect the worst. ”

At the same time, the task of the United States is to destroy the European Union, which will serve the rapid movement of the world to the Third World War: “So we are rapidly moving towards the Third World ...”

On the Russian portal "New Eastern Review" A few days ago there was the material of progressive journalist Tony Cartalucci (Tony Cartalucci), specializing in geopolitics.

The observer talks about the publications of the Western media on the baseless allegations that Russia has sent troops to Ukraine, or is going to enter them in the coming days. According to the analyst, the West today is trying with all its might to draw Russia into a military confrontation.

According to Comrade Kartalucci, a clear picture has already been imprinted in the minds of Westerners: in the ongoing conflict, Russians have already invaded Ukraine. The proofs are as follows: since Kiev cannot overcome the eastern regions, then the reason is in the Russian “intervention”.

If Western journalists write that the Russians have not yet invaded Ukraine, then, therefore, they will do it in the near future.

There is a third version: Russia has already “invaded”, but then postponed the invasion, as if on purpose, in order to frighten Westerners in their aggressive plans. And he, sitting at the TV, is now waiting for the "other invasion", then the "re-invasion."

The fact is that in fact Russia's invasion of Ukraine would only play into the hands of both Kiev and its patrons both in the European Union and in NATO.

The author calls Lugansk “Stalingrad in miniature” and notes that at the moment “Russia has few reasons to“ invade ”Ukraine”.

Still, he writes, the West is “determined” and makes propaganda attacks against Russia, watching how the “ineffective” Ukrainian army builds mountains from civilian victims and loses battles.

As for the Kremlin, the Russians warned Ukraine of possible “irreversible consequences,” reminds the journalist, after a shell has flown across the border and killed a Russian citizen. Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said that his country is ready to take all necessary measures to protect its territory.

The West wants to present Russia as an aggressor, ready to invade Ukraine. What for? In this way, Russia's political influence will be undermined and the doors will be opened for support by NATO countries of the “shaky” power in Kiev. The picture, in which Russia is represented as an evil aggressor, can affect EU and NATO members who are not yet ripe for full support of the harsh US sanctions and condemnation of Russia.

Kartalucci believes that in fact Russia does not need an invasion of Ukraine.

If Russia does not support the rebels operating inside Ukraine, then it looks like these fighters are able to defeat Kiev’s forces and unite with each other to wage the “classic partisan war” - independently, without the participation of Moscow.

If Russia still secretly supports these fighters, then all that needs to be done is to send more secret assistance, the journalist writes.

By crossing the border at some point in the conflict (unless the provocations of Ukraine become quite obvious), Russia will gain nothing. The restraint of Russia has so far shown the "defending" doctrine of the West as imperialist acting. The West not only does not condemn Kiev’s attacks on the cities of Eastern Ukraine, but even encourages them, demonstrating to us who is who. The West, according to Kartalucci, is the one who covers unilateral military aggression.

Russians, the author believes, should not succumb to the provocations of Ukraine. Provocations are being undertaken for the Russian troops to cross the border, which will give NATO a justification for interfering in the affairs of Eastern Europe.

Instead, Russia should allow Kiev to act in order for Ukraine to demonstrate to the world its "cruelty" and its "incompetence on the battlefield." At the same time, eastern Ukrainians will join forces.

Thus, Western analysts and Russian experts agree on one thing: the introduction of Russian troops into Ukraine could be a pretext for the response of the NATO bloc, which would then lead to World War III.

Observed and translated by Oleg Chuvakin
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    1. +36
      22 July 2014 08: 24
      Thus, Western analysts and Russian experts agree on one thing: the introduction of Russian troops into Ukraine could be a pretext for the response of the NATO bloc, which would then lead to World War III. And the death of a Boeing, like a shot of the Gabriel of the Principle ....
      1. DPZ
        +5
        22 July 2014 08: 40
        and the fact that NATO is already there, have repeatedly seen their military equipment, and non-Russian speech is constantly present, what kind of response is this ???? maybe it's time for Russia to decide on retaliatory actions!
        1. +21
          22 July 2014 08: 45
          again 25. there will be no 3rd world war neither in Ukraine, nor because of Ukraine.
          in any case, there will definitely not be large-scale hostilities.
          1. +77
            22 July 2014 09: 04
            If there will be a war, it is not because of Ukraine (the West does not give a damn about it), but because of the interests of the United States.
            1. +30
              22 July 2014 11: 58
              At the beginning of the 3-th world, there will no longer be US interests, just as the US itself will not. From the planet Earth they will make the moon: only craters and radioactive dust will remain. So what?! The USA dreams of such a finale, and because of Ukraine ?! I doubt, however!
              1. +3
                22 July 2014 13: 57
                Quote: nnz226
                From the planet Earth will make the moon

                You have megalomania, people can destroy themselves, but they cannot destroy the Earth, their nose has not grown.
                1. wow
                  +3
                  22 July 2014 19: 39
                  Can't destroy the earth! ??? They can easily do it more than once. I speak like a military professional.
                  1. +4
                    22 July 2014 20: 22
                    Quote: yo-mine
                    Can't destroy the earth! ??? They can easily more than once


                    Earth - no. The ecosystem - yes.
                  2. +3
                    22 July 2014 20: 43
                    Quote: yo-mine
                    Can't destroy the earth! ??? They can easily do it more than once. I speak like a military professional.

                    Not the earth, but only higher life forms, bacteria will survive in any way, they (some) are not even afraid of outer space with its vacuum and radiation, and can multiply even under Martian conditions.
                  3. Andy1967
                    0
                    22 July 2014 22: 05
                    That's right. What kind of moon is there - phobos-deimos can easily remain instead of our ball!
                  4. +1
                    22 July 2014 23: 03
                    And I think - why is it the military of Ukraine for the second time shooting down civilian planes and many times surpassing the militias in manpower and armament for 3 months already, they can't really do anything with them, but they are masters of the civilian population. Now I understand - this is what their "military professionals" are.
                  5. +2
                    22 July 2014 23: 03
                    Quote: yo-mine
                    They can easily more than once

                    In no case))) in the case, God forbid, of nuclear war, only the highest classes of vertebrates will die - mammals and birds, reptiles, fish and amphibians will perfectly survive, not to mention lower animal taxa, plants generally will in most cases, sideways ... I speak as a professional biologist wink
                    No, in the immediate vicinity of the place of bombing, everything will die, it is indisputable, but only cover the entire surface - there will not be enough charges, which means that most of the Earth will remain untouched.
                    As for the "third world" itself, that is precisely why it has not yet existed, since there are nuclear weapons, and the "plan of the amers" most likely comes down to really engaging Russia in the conflict in Ukraine for its final discrediting and striking its economy ...
                2. +5
                  22 July 2014 19: 45
                  Explosion of AN602 ... During an explosion of 39 nanoseconds, 5,3 iottawatts of energy were released, which amounted to about 1% of the power released by the Sun. ... It was experimentally proved that the maximum power of a thermonuclear charge, in principle, is not limited by anything.
                  And you say the nose is not mature, the nose is just mature, the brain is not enough.
              2. macarque
                +17
                22 July 2014 15: 36
                And actually, what do you doubt? nuclear weapons are primarily deterrence weapons. here the mattress covers behave with the thought that Russia will not dare to apply it. If it is guaranteed to be applied to them, as to a real enemy, then they will take it into account. In general, it’s time for some terrorists to blow up something significant in the states .... they relaxed. Nits.
                1. +6
                  22 July 2014 17: 46
                  They have an incredible drought in California right now ... God marks the assault wink
              3. SV
                SV
                +2
                22 July 2014 19: 03
                From the planet Earth will make the moon

                Stupidity ... you can wage a world war balancing on the brink, but not leading to a large-scale nuclear war (locally yes). At the same time, active actions of different intensities will cover mainly Eurasia, exhausting the country's continental countries. The states, as always, will try on the role of a peacemaker and savior, perhaps involving 10 percent of their military forces, in general, you can imagine how they behave in such situations ...........
                As a result, emissaries - saviors will come to the emaciated tortured land under the glee of the survivors.
                1. +4
                  22 July 2014 20: 55
                  Quote: SV
                  From the planet Earth will make the moon

                  Stupidity ... you can wage a world war balancing on the brink, but not leading to a large-scale nuclear war (locally yes). At the same time, active actions of different intensities will cover mainly Eurasia, exhausting the country's continental countries. The states, as always, will try on the role of a peacemaker and savior, perhaps involving 10 percent of their military forces, in general, you can imagine how they behave in such situations ...........
                  As a result, emissaries - saviors will come to the emaciated tortured land under the glee of the survivors.

                  Stupidity, this time the number will not succeed, especially since nature itself mined them. There is no need to bomb American cities, one "Kuz'ka mother" is enough, but blown up exactly in the right place (the Yellowstone caldera) and the United States will have no time for wars, for nothing at all. Any world war after that will quickly turn into at least an armistice (if the US and the EU do not fall apart after that).
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                3. +1
                  22 July 2014 22: 57
                  SV agree with you one hundred percent, straight my thoughts expressed))) The States are not afraid that the war will touch them, due to their geographic location. And the indifference of the population. War now is not battles of the Second World War, and not an exchange of nuclear strikes. Enough local foci, but in such a quantity and geography that everyone will drown in blood. And the Americans "all in white", will appear as saviors, so that not all of them can get rid of each other, so that there is someone for the Great American Empire to extract resources. In general terms .. Do you think America is interested in Europe ?? Ha ha ..
            2. +6
              22 July 2014 13: 35
              CIANIT
              If there will be a war, it is not because of Ukraine (the West does not give a damn about it), but because of the interests of the United States.

              ... the “idea of ​​punishment” served as the impetus for the outbreak of World War I. ... Austria-Hungary after the murder of the Archduke announced that it would certainly punish. And this idea of ​​punishing the country, the desire to present some account to another country - it still exists.

              And this "idea of ​​punishing the country" has become central to US international politics. There is no need to list those countries that have already been "punished" by the United States, coming up with various pretexts. Now the US has put Russia on the list next. The United States has reasons for this, but this is a separate conversation, the main thing is that a pretext has been found - Ukraine has been "offended". But the United States, which started a massacre there, does not take into account that this time, its possible escalation into a world war, may also affect its territory.
              1. +6
                22 July 2014 14: 01
                Quote: AQUARIUS 65
                And this "idea of ​​punishing the country" has become central to US international politics.

                There is nothing to punish, the United States must restrain Russia's economic growth, otherwise these same ones will lose their leading role. And for the sake of this, they will do anything, including untying the third world war.
                1. +1
                  22 July 2014 21: 27
                  Quote: Setrac
                  Quote: AQUARIUS 65
                  And this "idea of ​​punishing the country" has become central to US international politics.

                  There is nothing to punish, the United States must restrain Russia's economic growth, otherwise these same ones will lose their leading role. And for the sake of this, they will do anything, including untying the third world war.

                  Containment of Russia, as well as China, even the EU is not the main thing for them, it is all just a means, intermediate, concomitant goals. The main thing is to maintain a steady and unquenchable demand for dollars (their main export commodity) and a "safe haven" for investment (flight) of capital (including intellectual capital), as which they see and offer exclusively their loved ones, plus the arms trade. Only this can allow them to continue to enjoy the position of the world metropolis, and to consider the rest of the world as their colonies.
                  Nothing personal, only business (their personal gain) is the main principle and the meaning of their existence (limited, lazy people, all interest is to please their torso).
                  Deprive them of this opportunity and them (their ideology and lifestyle) death, fortunately not biological. hi
                  1. 0
                    22 July 2014 23: 06
                    Quote: PENZYAC
                    The main thing is to maintain a steady and enduring demand for dollars

                    In principle, for this we need to restrain the growth of Russia and China - as long as they are much weaker than the United States, they depend on the dollar, as soon as they strengthen enough, they can immediately abandon it.
            3. +2
              22 July 2014 18: 03
              And then these fat NATO warriors already showed themselves in Iraq and Afghanistan, let them climb, they were not the first to go here, so the Fuhrer was sure and thought out, he didn’t shoot himself, so let them clean and lubricate their colts, berets, browning .... so there would be no misfires.
            4. +1
              22 July 2014 20: 38
              Quote: CIANIT
              If there will be a war, it is not because of Ukraine (the West does not give a damn about it), but because of the interests of the United States.

              After which the United States will disappear, I hope, only as a state.
          2. +32
            22 July 2014 09: 23
            again 25. there will be no 3rd world war neither in Ukraine, nor because of Ukraine.

            Totally agree with you. This whole performance is beneficial to the West and the USA for the time being. The maximum that they will do is to spoil sanctions, and to fight with Russia is unprofitable and intense, because Russians have something to answer. This is not to shoot Arabs from afar with aircraft and missiles. The Western man’s mentality is such that it will be very difficult to tear him away from comfortable conditions for a full-scale war, because they have become too effeminate.
            1. +12
              22 July 2014 12: 24
              Quote: aleks_29296
              This whole performance is beneficial to the West and the USA for the time being

              Not for the time being and not for the time a FAVORABLE IN GENERAL AND IN MANY BILLION CALCULATIONS.
              Quote: aleks_29296
              and fight with Russia unprofitable and intense

              It is very profitable and stress-free - Since the fight will be "onizhedeti" (logs, sprats, Bendera, etc.), which are correctly oriented by gayropean values, and the lamp of democracy will supply weapons.
              Quote: aleks_29296
              The Western man’s mentality is such that it will be very difficult to tear him away from comfortable conditions for a full-scale war, because they have become too effeminate.

              The biggest mistake!
              To drive publicly several thousand into death camps, while subhumans and not the main ethnic group in each of the developed countries are geyropes and there will be no end of the "volunteers". Moreover, the main strikes will be delivered from long distances to infrastructure and enterprises.
              Quote: PDM80
              Geysoldaty who when cold do not want to fight

              Dress warmly and provide comfortable equipment.
              Quote: PDM80
              Americans who, when hundreds of corpses go, will devour their own government, remember the prosthetic movement of the times of the Vietnam War.

              For those who disagree, camps were built and lists were compiled according to the colors of security.
              in the years since the Vietnam debacle, the mattress has learned and prepared.
              Quote: AndofOdessa
              My opinion. Ukraine will start a war no later than October November of this year. How will they prove that Russia began is the next question. Not starting this year during the winter, they will lose everything that they could get even those scraps of the army that are. The cold winter in the interests of freedom will not be forgiven. and 3 chances will definitely not be.

              Here the comrade correctly assesses the development of the situation and the General Staff also knows about it, respectively, everyone else is aware and many informed people have stocked up or are stocking up on "spare airfields" (Israel, Spain, all kinds of islands and other inhabited places).
              By the way, precisely because of this, they are now trying to clean up the Gaza Strip. That is, be safe in the end.
              Quote: Vladimirets
              Europe for the United States is now a competitor for the possession of resources and the United States does not need it already. As soon as it is finished, the states will become undivided masters of the third world.

              Respect and complete sharing of opinion.
              1. +4
                22 July 2014 13: 52
                Papakiko
                I agree with you in many ways. But there are some but ...
                A large-scale war with a powerful nuclear power, if obvious signs of defeat begin to be seen, will inevitably develop first into a local and then into a global nuclear one. Who needs this scenario on this planet?
                Further: many rightly notice that by the winter period, Kiev will begin to have serious problems due to cold weather. And what problems await the destroyed Donbass by winter? Five times more - without heating, electricity, etc. The mass deaths of residents, epidemics, gangs of looters and deserters, famine, all this against the backdrop of the war - collapse and apocalypse.
                And one more thing: I agree that the United States is heading for the collapse of the EU. However, a number of European countries, in the event of collapse, will inevitably fall into the sphere of influence of Russia. First of all, probably historically, ethnically and religiously close - Greece, Cyprus, Serbia, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Montenegro, maybe this is not a complete list. Those. the creation of something like the Warsaw Pact 2.0 cannot be excluded
                1. +2
                  22 July 2014 14: 08
                  Quote: matRoss
                  A large-scale war with a powerful nuclear power, if obvious signs of defeat begin to be seen, will inevitably develop first into a local and then into a global nuclear one. Who needs this scenario on this planet?

                  You are wrong. There will be no direct invasion of the territory of Russia or the USA, therefore THESE countries will not be the first to use nuclear weapons. The rest of the countries have little strength for a nuclear winter. So the Third World War is quite real, yes, the loser will not be destroyed, but the loser will lose ALL his positions abroad.
                  Won against Russia will be conducted and is conducted in the territory of such countries as Belarus, Kazakhstan, Mongolia, Ukraine, Syria, Vietnam, Cuba, Colombia. They will kindle (and kindle) separatism in order to separate parts of Russia.
                  1. +7
                    22 July 2014 14: 24
                    Quote: Setrac
                    Direct invasion of the territory of Russia ... will not be

                    I also tend to this. But comrades here are waiting for the invasion of Ukrainians by October. I expressed my opinion on this - we can cope with any enemy in a local conflict, but if he starts to bake, our military doctrine involves the use of nuclear weapons in response to a non-nuclear attack. hi
                2. +1
                  22 July 2014 14: 29
                  Quote: matRoss
                  will inevitably grow first into a local, and then into a global nuclear one. Who needs this scenario on this planet?

                  And missile defense for what you think is being created intensively?
                  In order to prevent a retaliatory strike.
                  I don’t live in Hiroshima and Nagasaki and nothing.
                  So, there is no need to overestimate the limited use of nuclear weapons.
                  Russia, as a target for nuclear weapons, is exclusively in a vulnerable position.
                  In rural areas devastation.
                  Cities of millionaires with "developed" industry and how officials like to "boast" are the most compact megacities in the world in Russia.
                  One warhead of nuclear weapons is enough, and then not for every regional center and "arrived".
                  EBNych back in the late 90s. to the whole world barked that Russia reserves the right to a preemptive strike of nuclear weapons in the event of a threat to the country. After that, the mattresses became more active with PROY.
                  The bulk of us do not know what is going on behind the curtains and we can only guess and guess the general vector of movement of the parties.
                  Choice is an illusion created between those who have power and who do not.
                  [media = http: // http: //www.youtube.com/watch? v = qu0YriXv4hs]
                  Quote: matRoss
                  that the US is heading for the collapse of the EU

                  By no means.
                  You yourself wrote below the answer to the goals and consequences. Do not contradict yourself.
                  Teria about the "golden billion" in your hands and much will become obvious.
                  1. +2
                    22 July 2014 15: 00
                    Quote: Papakiko
                    Russia, as a target for nuclear weapons, is exclusively in a vulnerable position.

                    This is when compared with Mongolia. The United States or Europe with China are more vulnerable to nuclear weapons.
                    And the countryside is not a single entity. The village, it is different, somewhere devastation, and somewhere collective farms - millionaires.
                  2. +1
                    22 July 2014 15: 07
                    Quote: Papakiko
                    And missile defense for what you think is being created intensively?
                    In order to prevent a retaliatory strike.

                    Just for that. Like missile defense systems in order for this strike to take place. Modern confrontation of armor and shell. I remember the past, the armor lost. Let's see how it will be now.
                    Quote: Papakiko
                    US is heading for EU collapse
                    By no means.
                    You yourself wrote below the answer to the goals and consequences. Do not contradict yourself.

                    Rather, you contradict yourself.
                    Quote: Papakiko
                    Vladimirets
                    Europe for the United States is now a competitor for the possession of resources and the United States does not need it already. As soon as it is finished, the states will become undivided masters of the third world.

                    Respect and complete sharing of opinion.

                    So "respect" or "not at all"?
                  3. +7
                    22 July 2014 15: 24
                    Don't tell my slippers with this PRO! Of the nine launches, only four successful interceptions and targets about which everyone and everything knew, including the flight path! "Yars" today is out of reach of any air defense system! Or do you think that in our Defense Ministry some Serdyuk have dug in and do not understand anything ?!
                    1. +2
                      22 July 2014 17: 41
                      Quote: Varyag_1973
                      Do not tell my slippers with this PRO! Of the nine launches, only four successful interceptions and the goals about which everyone and everyone knew, including the flight path!


                      Yes, if we take into account the number of missile defense - several dozen, and to defeat one target requires 5-6 missiles, it becomes clear that the current US missile defense is a banal cut of money and conducting full-scale tests in the framework of some research and development.
            2. +4
              22 July 2014 12: 29
              Quote: aleks_29296
              again 25. there will be no 3rd world war neither in Ukraine, nor because of Ukraine.

              Totally agree with you. This whole performance is beneficial to the West and the USA for the time being. The maximum that they will do is to spoil sanctions, and to fight with Russia is unprofitable and intense, because Russians have something to answer. This is not to shoot Arabs from afar with aircraft and missiles. The Western man’s mentality is such that it will be very difficult to tear him away from comfortable conditions for a full-scale war, because they have become too effeminate.


              Well, what are you saying !? No one here will understand you, because they are all the same devoted to the secret plans of the Pentagon, and they know that the United States wants a military invasion of Russia by Ukraine in order to start a direct war with Russia.
            3. +2
              22 July 2014 19: 43
              That is not true.
              Fighting has always been profitable. Remember, the first and second world wars began against the backdrop of powerful world crises. Present time is no exception. The United States does not advocate a unipolar world, as it seems at first. They want to struggle to fix their economy, which is crashing at the seams. At all times this was decided by war. Firstly, orders for the military-industrial complex, secondly, occupied territories and minerals on them, thirdly, reparations or their analogues.
              As the daughter of the officer said - not everything is so simple :)
          3. +30
            22 July 2014 09: 27
            After the first two wars, no one will fight, because without nuclear weapons, the victims will be at least the first and second combined. Besides who will fight then ?! Yes, the number of equipment and soldiers of NATO is ahead of Russia, but in quality ?! Geysoldats who don’t want to fight coldly, the Americans who when hundreds go dead, will devour their own government, remember the protests of the Vietnam War. In addition, this Nato can only fight in the deserts, where there is freedom for aviation, and in our latitudes it’s shitty for them, remember how long they fussed with Yugoslavia, in the taiga the drone is not a very good helper. And the Third World War is already underway, they are only fighting on the economic, political and information field. Europe never gets into a war with Russia; it was fully able to appreciate all the charms; it’s the Americans who don’t know what war is and they are boasting.
            1. Nikolav
              +7
              22 July 2014 10: 11
              The Third World War is already underway, only they are fighting not only in the economic, political and information field, but also in large-scale armed conflicts in Afghanistan, Iraq, Palestine, Yemen, Syria, Libya, Ukraine, and Africa. leading countries of the world, and the further, the more countries are involved in it.
              Relations are getting tense, the forecast is unfavorable. No one will win ...
              1. Registrar
                +6
                22 July 2014 16: 04
                Yes, the war is already underway: the United States is fighting with RUSSIA through the Kiev junta.
                But this is not 3MB.
                It has already been discussed here, what will happen if we enter Ukraine?
                Many slopes think that this will be the beginning of 3MB. I don’t think so.
                And now, in general, favorable conditions have developed for the deployment of troops,
                with competent propaganda training.
                The only thing is that WE DO NOT NEED it - there are more minuses than pluses.
                I think the Russian Government understands this. But crushing the United States economically or financially is a much more interesting goal.
            2. WKS
              +15
              22 July 2014 11: 07
              A characteristic episode described to me by a participant in those events. Confrontation in Berlin in 1961. Along the dividing line, there are tanks, Soviet on the one and American on the other. They cost many hours and days. From American technology, fighters periodically crawl out to smoke, pee, poop, go eat, and for other needs. There was no movement on our side, there was a feeling that the tanks were empty, and only the turns of the turret guns and the relocation of the engines indicated that the crews were in full combat readiness.
            3. Fast
              +11
              22 July 2014 11: 28
              PDM80
              1. "After the first two wars, no one will fight ..." - Before the first two, everyone thought so.
              2. "Americans ... will devour their own government ..." -
              they’ll not devour, propaganda will drive to fight, just as SS men with machine guns behind their backs and fear for relatives, everything worked out.
              3. "NATO can only fight in the deserts, where there is plenty of space for aviation ... - you should never underestimate the enemy. We have not enough modern weapons for a large-scale war, and geopolitics are not happy, and no one told us clearly that they would help. Look statistics on how many planes were produced in the Second World War and now. Regarding the volume of the new Drying (92 to 2020, and two packs in fine-tuning!), the entire forum is in shock.
              The most important thing in such misconceptions is that Ssysshea has morally changed in the appearance and likeness of Nazi Germany, the essence is the same, world domination, and the fact that their brains are an order of magnitude smaller than that of the German command (and they behaved much more decently), in that big danger, the government is irresponsible from prezik to psaki, as if dumbfounded by drugs.
              1. +3
                22 July 2014 12: 42
                Fast.
                under item 1 I didn’t think about disagreeing, the Second World War was a continuation of the first, and Germany could be raised due to the terrible situation in the economy and society, it was only necessary to push what England did, she also muddied the First World War. Now in Europe, tolerance and satiety. You can imagine that in Europe they decide to give up heat and Russian gas.
                according to claim 2, it is unlikely to succeed, firstly, the amyricos are very sensitive to losses and their own lives, therefore they gave up in packs and got used to first burn out the artillery and aircraft, secondly, the Americans have a lot of weapons in their hands and can start to shoot back. Third, remember how our plane flew over their cruiser, the crew floor was cut!
                according to claim 3 I do not underestimate. in Europe which countries will fight, the Germans are unlikely, the French are the same, yes there are American bases, but how many people are there? it’s probably only European governments to overthrow in order to create a bridgehead for an attack on Russia and begin the transfer of the main units (which is why Crimea is so important for them).
          4. +2
            22 July 2014 10: 51
            What a luxurious article, it’s a pity minus only one can be put.
            Excluding nuclear weapons, the ratio of Russia's power to NATO countries is 1 to 60.

            Russia has already proved in the Second World War that it is stronger than ALL Europe and without nuclear weapons.
            And the causes of world wars - the author burns.
            1. 0
              22 July 2014 12: 36
              All of Europe?
              Given that there were a bunch of neutrals and Britain fought on the other side?
              1. 0
                22 July 2014 13: 56
                Britain fought in the Atlantic and the Pacific Ocean, without affecting the situation in Europe. The neutrals worked for the Third Reich, reinforcing the industrial potential of the Germans.
                1. 0
                  23 July 2014 05: 47
                  So any diversion of resources, this is an impact.
                  The neutrals did not work for the Third Reich, otherwise with this position the whole world is now working for Russia. Since the neutrals)
          5. WKS
            +6
            22 July 2014 10: 54
            “Almost all countries did not want war, but it did happen,” said Alexander Chubaryan, director of the Institute of General History of the Russian Academy of Sciences. “And this is very relevant today, it raises the issue of the mechanism of a major conflict.”

            This is a historical lie, after the murder of the Archduke mass demonstrations demanding military action took place in St. Petersburg, Vienna, Berlin and other European cities. The peoples thirsted for blood and got it in excess. The current situation is fundamentally different from that. In addition to Kiev and other Ukrainian cities, there is no longer any mass demand for military action. In addition, we should not forget that at present the world war will end in the ashes and nuclear winter (I advise the ignorant to read what it is). The weapon to curb military appetites is waiting in the wings, and calls for peace in the world.
          6. Andof odessa
            +8
            22 July 2014 11: 32
            My opinion. Ukraine will start a war no later than October November of this year. How will they prove that Russia began is the next question. Not starting this year during the winter, they will lose everything that they could get even those scraps of the army that are. The cold winter in the interests of freedom will not be forgiven. and 3 chances will definitely not be.
            1. +1
              22 July 2014 12: 47
              Quote: AndofOdessa
              My opinion. Ukraine will start a war no later than October November of this year. How will they prove that Russia began is the next question. Not starting this year during the winter, they will lose everything that they could get even those scraps of the army that are. The cold winter in the interests of freedom will not be forgiven. and 3 chances will definitely not be.

              What and with whom? If Ukraine attacks Russia, then gas will definitely not go through the pipe, then Russia and Europe will pinch it on both sides
              1. Andof odessa
                +3
                22 July 2014 13: 25
                And it will not matter. The war with the EXTERNAL enemy will allow to write off everything that is done inside the state. It’s not enough strength but it will allow attracting a young European (Poland, Romania, etc.) and the USA. And if now Europe can still somehow resist US pressure, then after the start they have only 2 options. To support the United States or Russia to quickly end the war as Europeans endure the cold winter even worse. The United States is the main NATO and strategic partner. Are you ready to bet money that they will break with the USA. me not. War should not develop into World War 3. so the war will be a positional 2 strange war on the border. and this, as one American politician said, will lure the European economy into the United States and save the latter from collapse. as they say, I don’t want to, but where do they go.
                1. 0
                  22 July 2014 13: 53
                  I do not agree with you. America in Europe has only one ally - England (also, roughly speaking, like the Americans are an island state, they have their own currency) the rest of Europe will be on its own. Poles and Romanians will get involved with pleasure, only they will snatch their pieces from Ukraine, and they will sneeze on the rest of Ukraine. and they will drag it in parts and on this the whole war will end.
                2. +1
                  22 July 2014 18: 40
                  [quote = AndofOdessa] It’s not enough strength, but it will allow attracting a young European (Poland, Romania, etc.) / quote]
                  ------------------------------
                  For a long time, dummies were not pressed and Poles, even though we remind them how the squeals in our direction end.
                  And then they have something not normal with their memory. For another 70 years, we’ll cut them. It seems that it is necessary for the geyrop to put prophylaxis every 70 years in the pose of a drinking deer, then he will live in peace am
                3. 0
                  23 July 2014 00: 54
                  Quote: AndofOdessa
                  And it will not matter. The war with the EXTERNAL enemy will allow you to write off everything that is being done inside the state ... The war should not develop into World War 3. so the war will be a positional 2 strange war on the border. and this, as one American politician said, will lure the European economy into the United States and save the latter from collapse. as they say, I don’t want to, but where do they go.

                  This is all American Wishlist. Something their Wishlist has recently not been very consistent with reality, in the best case, they temporarily solve the minimum problem, and then, more and more often they have to take their legs off. All that they get is almost uncontrollable chaos. They want it like Napoleon’s, but it turns out like Vanka the painter (Napoleon, though he didn’t finish too well).
              2. 0
                23 July 2014 00: 41
                Quote: PDM80
                Quote: AndofOdessa
                My opinion. Ukraine will start a war no later than October November of this year. How will they prove that Russia began is the next question. Not starting this year during the winter, they will lose everything that they could get even those scraps of the army that are. The cold winter in the interests of freedom will not be forgiven. and 3 chances will definitely not be.

                What and with whom? If Ukraine attacks Russia, then gas will definitely not go through the pipe, then Russia and Europe will pinch it on both sides

                Considering the degree of inadequacy of the Banderlog and their "leadership", there is nothing to be surprised at. They also declare that they will march not only in Sevastopol, but also in Red Square. How do you like the application? Here, in my opinion, there is autism, aggravated by manic-depressive psychosis in an acute form against the background of severe dementia, in short, "Kashchenko" is powerless, only electroshock, a straitjacket and a lot of diphenhydramine (from dementia, it really does not help), and best of all , immediately lobotomy.
          7. +1
            22 July 2014 11: 57
            Quote: Starfish
            there will be no 3-th world either in Ukraine or because of Ukraine.
            in any case, there will definitely not be large-scale hostilities.


            In military, financial affairs, there is a risk-sensitive parameter ...

            So, here, please, give me the guarantees (and risk parameters) that there will be no "large-scale hostilities" and another world war?

            Blah blah ... no longer happy with anyone.
            Warranties and risks, pliz ...
          8. -1
            22 July 2014 12: 23
            Quote: Starfish
            again 25. there will be no 3rd world war neither in Ukraine, nor because of Ukraine.
            in any case, there will definitely not be large-scale hostilities.


            Voice in the wilderness.

            “Today, 32% of the world's population support Russia, 39% feel bad, while the United States supports 62%. Therefore, now, when we go to the Third World War, we are in a very difficult situation - we have come under the influence of the myth that the world is diverse. In fact, this is not so - the United States spent more than 20 years arming more than the whole world put together ... And Russia was better prepared for the First World War than for the Third ... "


            Honestly! 62% support the United States, the State Department guarantees.
            Guys, we will not let ourselves be drawn into the Third World War with NATO! After all, they sleep and see how to start a nuclear war. Infa 100%!
            1. +2
              22 July 2014 14: 10
              Quote: Su24
              Honestly! 62% support the United States, the State Department guarantees.

              When counting, they simply took the whole world as supporters of the United States and eliminated China and India.
          9. +1
            22 July 2014 14: 50
            I agree! Involvement of Russia in an open conflict is some kind of crazy idea of ​​the State Department, or did they decide that our nuclear weapons would not take off ?! It is very stupid, in my opinion no one has canceled the Perimeter system, and all the dollars in the world are not worth making the Earth a desert for a couple of million years!
          10. 0
            22 July 2014 17: 07
            http://news.kremlin.ru/video/2674
            Security Council meeting

            July 22, 2014 Moscow, Kremlin
            1. 0
              22 July 2014 18: 09
              text of the speech of the President of the Russian Federation V. Putin
              "Often the stake is placed on radical, nationalist, or even simply on neo-fascist, fundamentalist forces, as it happened, unfortunately, in many countries of the post-Soviet space, and what is happening now in Ukraine is practically the same - that, what we see now.

              People came to power in an armed unconstitutional way. Yes, after the coup, elections were held, but for some reason, for some reason, those who financed or carried out this coup were again at the head of state. And part of the country's population, which does not agree with such a development of events, is also trying to suppress by force without any attempt to hold at least some negotiations.

              And at the same time, they almost give ultimatums to Russia: either let us destroy a part of this population, which is ethnically, culturally and historically close to Russia, or we will impose some kind of sanctions on you. Strange logic. And, of course, it is completely unacceptable. "" "
              http://president.kremlin.ru/news/46305
          11. +2
            22 July 2014 21: 34
            Quote: Starfish
            25 again.


            The scientist also recalled that Russia is the home only for 2% of the global population, and these two percent give only 2,9% of the global gross product. Excluding nuclear weapons, the ratio of Russia's power to NATO countries is 1 to 60.
            That scientist somehow forgot to mention that our country occupies 1 \ 7 part of the land and the presence of poplars and yars is no longer.
            and nuclear war will not be critical for the survival of our ethnic group, and pin Dosia will not survive this, due to a global catastrophe from the use of total nuclear weapons - if you search and count, the respondent will have deep doubts about its occurrence even with a lower secondary education

            if you are not lazy, make calculations- the explosion of Krakatau-3 of the year when the temperature in the sowing hemisphere drops by 4-5 degrees ..
        2. popov_au80
          +2
          22 July 2014 10: 11
          No need to succumb to provocations, neither u-shelter nor pi-indos
          everyone is just waiting for us to start fighting to the fullest, they will have an excuse to send their troops and help the u-kram fight against "aggressive" Russia
          1. -4
            22 July 2014 12: 38
            Quote: popov_au80
            No need to succumb to provocations, neither u-shelter nor pi-indos
            everyone is just waiting for us to start fighting to the fullest, they will have an excuse to send their troops and help the u-kram fight against "aggressive" Russia


            Voooot! You are a person, immediately obvious, Svidomo, thinking, visionary. It’s so good that our government is just as wise and sober. No provocation!
          2. +3
            22 July 2014 19: 00
            Quote: popov_au80
            No need to succumb to provocations, neither u-shelter nor pi-indos
            everyone is just waiting for us to start fighting to the fullest, they will have an excuse to send their troops and help the u-kram fight against "aggressive" Russia

            ----------------------------
            As if their troops did not have to flee to the English Channel. For some reason, everyone forgets that in Geyrop, more than a quarter of the population is newcomers who came for a sweet cookie. And they definitely won’t fight for the geyropeyts, this is not a sweet life.
            Most of the rest of the population are sled cats (maybe cattle, albeit monotonously). So they will just wait for the moment to surrender, as was already the 45th. Let them be stubborn, I do not deny, but as long as they have enough spirit, go all the way, to the limit, biting your lip to the blood and gnashing of teeth. Our people are also softened, but the situation is still better than in the geyrop. Most of the weapons, especially in the eastern part of the geyropa, in the countries of the former social. the camp is outdated, it is on conservation, which means that with a 90% probability the situation with it is the same as in Ukraine., Yes, the geyropa and mattresses have great economic potential (many factories, factories, mines), but now there was a slightly different situation during WWII. Now it’s easier to blast it all out of the air attack means, earlier the load on the plane was small, the accuracy of the strike suffered, it took a lot of force to cause the required damage. Now everything will do, at least the basic work of a missile of various basing. Given the crowding of the population in geyrop, the vulnerability of industry is the specialization of enterprises, there are practically no full-cycle factories, and even a supplier is knocked out and the final product becomes unattainable, limited mineral resources. In general, the geyropa will immediately bend. IMHO
        3. duke
          +3
          22 July 2014 10: 51
          by the way, a curious little article to whom it is interesting - http://vpk-news.ru/articles/21128
        4. 0
          22 July 2014 20: 28
          Quote: DPZ
          and the fact that NATO is already there, have repeatedly seen their military equipment, and non-Russian speech is constantly present, what kind of response is this ???? maybe it's time for Russia to decide on retaliatory actions!

          And who prevents us from acting similarly? Moreover, the Russian language in the Donbass is native.
      2. +20
        22 July 2014 09: 27
        There is a limit to sanctions and insolent rhetoric of the West. The very limit when Russia has no choice but to begin a retaliatory force. Do they really think that after that they will skim the cream? It will be so global, and not predictable, for the whole world. 3 World War I is too technological. In recent years, 60 the whole world has come up with weapons. Today, we do not even pay attention to how much it has changed. If we take the same German from the time of the 2 World War, even he would be horrified at the possibilities of today's man to gut his own kind. Even without the massive use of nuclear weapons, the US’s remoteness from Europe will play against it by all 100%. Europe is the financial nipple for the United States, and if you shut it ... I often hear that the United States has always profited from wars. But people, today it will not work. Over the past hundred years, a huge unknown world has turned into a small ball called Earth. And if this is not understood across the ocean, a lot of people and peoples will die. There will definitely be no Europe, it will simply disappear, with all states and the population.
        1. popov_au80
          +2
          22 July 2014 10: 15
          I agree ...
        2. +6
          22 July 2014 10: 52
          Quote: Buran
          There will definitely be no Europe, it will simply disappear, with all states and the population.

          Do you think this is a big deal for us? Europe for the United States is now a competitor for the possession of resources and the United States does not need it already. As soon as it is finished, the states will become undivided masters of the third world.
          1. +3
            22 July 2014 13: 15
            The main consumer of the United States is Europe. As well as a huge amount of financial investments: loans, shares in companies, the supply of goods and equipment ... Europe lives under the strong influence of the "democracy" of the United States. All today's politicians in Europe are the graduates of the Cold War and post-Soviet "winners". They live within their own ambitions. In reality, Europe has much more leverage to tilt the mattress color flag. But the United States stubbornly presses the line that they allegedly liberated and helped Europe during the cold won. Forgetting to tell the Europeans how much they got from it.
        3. +5
          22 July 2014 14: 08
          Russia long ago began to respond. An alternative channel to Panama, active friendship with China right up to outer space (and this is goodbye, Asia-Pacific), the turnover is NOT in dollars, etc. If this continues, the collapse of the United States will be inevitable very soon. Apparently from here and the rush. It is unlikely that it will reach a global third war, but the Amers need to do something quickly, they do it, or rather they try to do it only with the hands of the EU. And the EU, although mongrels, but there are brains and everything that was built for 20 years is broken, few people want to.
      3. 0
        22 July 2014 09: 48
        Quote: parusnik
        . A death of a Boeinglike a shot of Gabriel Principle.

        Most likely this is just a distracting blow, since while the investigation is ongoing (and it may drag on), Russia is unlikely to be able to help the militias.
      4. +5
        22 July 2014 10: 04
        Quote: parusnik
        And the death of a Boeing, like a shot of the Gabriel of the Principle ....

        Quote: parusnik
        And the death of a Boeing, like a shot of the Gabriel of the Principle ....

        And here is the centennial Gavril?
        World War I wanted to, not Gavril, so I would have bought something like that.
        War does not begin at all because of any Gabriel.
        If they really want war, then Russia will be drawn into it. Yes
        An example is to start a banderlog campaign in the Crimea. Where do poor Russians go?
        "Excluding nuclear weapons, the power ratio of Russia to NATO countries is 1 to 60." - stupid thesis.
        Time is not right. Without taking into account nuclear weapons, it is now impossible in any way.
        If not for it, then the war began without any Gabriel.
        1. +7
          22 July 2014 10: 47
          Quote: Alekseev
          Time is not right. Without taking into account nuclear weapons, it is now impossible in any way.
          If not for it, then the war began without any Gabriel.

          Well, even in the early 90s ... And so, we are still trying for strength, but remember the article, what will happen if Russia sends troops to Ukraine - we will stop in the area of ​​Madrid, Lisbon and London ...

          Tanks spy on Piccadilly
          And the Queen in the Lubyanka,
          And then the Yankees drown in the Thames ...
          And smoke pours into the stratosphere ...

          Или:

          Slowly rockets float away
          Meet with them you do not wait.
          And although America is a little sorry
          Europe is ahead.

          A landmine flies, sways,
          Do not expect good from him,
          Even if you dig into the ground,
          Do not get away from the shock wave.

          Tablecloth, tablecloth Chlorzian spreads
          And climbs under the gas mask.
          Everyone, everyone believes in the best.
          Falling, falling nuclear bomb.

          The sun shone over the earth suddenly
          And it’s raining overhead.
          A friend just walked beside you
          And now he is fried.

          The grass burned out by the hydrogen sun
          Kangaroos are dogs
          Aborigines regained their rights
          A red flag fluttered over Canberra.

          Tablecloth, tablecloth diphosgene spreads
          And gets into the ear, nose and eye.
          Everyone, everyone in the best is believed,
          But not everyone has a gas mask

          Maybe we offended someone in vain,
          Discarded 15 megaton.
          And now it is burning, and the earth is melting,
          Where the Pentagon was once.

          US tanks are excellent in melting
          And why did the factory release them?
          Ah, what a pity this explosion ends
          It would be better if he lasted a whole year.

          Tablecloth, tablecloth chloropicrin spreads
          And gets into our gas mask
          Everyone, everyone believes in the best,
          Maybe one of us will survive

          But the song does not end there
          We will build a new training ground.
          All that’s left after that
          We will load in a blue carriage!

          Tablecloth Dibenzok, Sazipine
          And gets into our gas mask
          Everyone, everyone believes in the best.
          Falling, falling nuclear bomb.

          Good riddance of bromobenzene cyanide
          And gets into the ear, nose and eye.
          Everyone, everyone in the best is believed,
          Maybe one of us will survive.

          Tablecloth diphynin-chlorophyll
          And gets into our gas mask.
          Everyone, everyone in the best is believed,
          Falling, falling nuclear bomb.

          A soldier drank, a tear rolled
          The trophy saxophone wheezed
          And on his chest glowed
          Medal for the city of Washington

          Eh ... Dreams ...
          1. pahom54
            +2
            22 July 2014 11: 50
            Poems, though bloodthirsty, but out of place ...
            I liked it ... I will say the same as you
            Eh. dreams ...
          2. 0
            22 July 2014 14: 57
            Quote: PSih2097
            Well, even in the early 90s ... And so, we are still trying for strength, but remember the article, what will happen if Russia sends troops to Ukraine - we will stop in the area of ​​Madrid, Lisbon and London ...


            honestly recalls:
            “The orderly brought tea.
            - Yes; the weight of the general salvo will be solid tomorrow, ”said the major,“ one might say an unprecedented weight. ”
            Sintsov smiled slightly at the twice repeated word "weight."
            - Do you think I'm exaggerating? Indeed, an unprecedented weight. With numbers in hand.
            “I understand,” said Sintsov. - I just remembered how before the war they counted up in reports: "The total weight of our Voroshilov volley is three times heavier than the total weight of a volley of all artillery in France, twice as heavy as Germany ..."
            “And what,” the major said, “according to the calculations, it turned out that way - harder.” Yes, it did not work out as we gunners thought at first. Now let’s get it all up! ”

            everything is great, of course, and sooner or later we will win ... just how many tens of millions of people will die ... and if there is an opportunity not to lead to open confrontation, I think we need to use it. Apparently the Russian leadership has the same position. Something goes far ... the mattress covers are no longer hidden. Perhaps they won't let us play the "bloodless" cards of the East, Asia and South America ...
          3. +2
            22 July 2014 15: 15
            Once, Charles de Gaulle not only saved the country from shame, but he also sent bloody Americans to hell, even at the cost of his own career and life. All this because de Gaulle was a man with steel eggs. And Jacques Chirac warned that he would hit with nuclear weapons if someone attacks France. If we had power with steel eggs, then no matter what the third world talk would be, the power simply made a statement (like N. Khrushchev) that in case of aggression it reserves the unconditional right to use nuclear weapons. And that’s it. And let the scum think and decide, or shut up the bakery, or the whole world in ruin. As they say, it is better to die standing than to live on your knees.
          4. 0
            22 July 2014 15: 54
            Poems from childhood - 70s
      5. +3
        22 July 2014 11: 04
        Whether World War III is possible. This is hindered by global nuclear parity. However, the scum densely form where anti-Russian sentiments can. They need this to impose sanctions together with Europe (they themselves will not be pulled). And sanctions are needed to press and squeeze the Crimea and New Russia. The main goal is to put the pro-American president at the head of the Russian Federation and use our bowels as our own, spitting on the well-being and future of the local population — that is, you and I! Now the formation of a new world center of power for the BRICS is taking place, as opposed to the scourge and the Europeans. And the scoundrels do their best to prevent this. However, all of their steam will go whistle. Too much blood in the hands of the American democrats.
      6. +5
        22 July 2014 11: 09
        Excluding nuclear weapons, the ratio of Russia's power to NATO countries is 1 to 60. Apart from weapons in general, the most terrible military power is the army of the Independent State of Papua New Guinea. They can eat it if something happens ... I do not like the unanimity of Western and "our" experts.
      7. +1
        22 July 2014 11: 16
        So far, Russia is alone against these monsters: NATO and the United States. Despite all the provocations, Russia will stand, and the enemies will not be defeated by direct military force, but by their internal contradictions, which will lead to the collapse of Western civilization.
      8. +2
        22 July 2014 11: 22
        What an illiterate article! I ordered it to the west. Bush said in the 90s that World War 3 is coming !!!
      9. +1
        22 July 2014 12: 02
        Quote: parusnik
        And the death of a Boeing, like a shot of the Gabriel of the Principle ....

        Here it is necessary to separate prepositions for the outbreak of hostilities and objective-subjective reasons ...
        You just need to remember the classic of Marxism-Leninism - "the world is divided, for its redistribution - war is needed ..." Wait IMHO everything is ready. It's another matter whether the decision-makers have enough wisdom (firmness and determination) to prevent it ...

        Well and accordingly - what to do next? It will be even more complicated than succumbing to the pressure of the current ...
        First of all, it concerns the hegemon-leader-dictator of the United States ...
      10. +2
        22 July 2014 12: 32
        It is necessary to firmly declare "the territory of Ukraine is a zone of direct interests of Russia" and it is desirable to back it up with a deed, and to report the following about NATO .. ​​When a NATO soldier appears in Ukraine for the first time, a NUCLEAR STRIKE WITHOUT WARNING will be delivered at the place of concentration! And no one is going anywhere ... Only this must be done so that they believe, so that every NATO mongrel knows about it .. These bastards value their lives very much and will not take the risk, comparison with Russia in 1914 is not entirely correct then our country is physically could not destroy the enemy, and the whole world was removed! But now it's easy for two hours, and let the rest of the world reckon with it! am
        1. -1
          22 July 2014 21: 04
          Quote: max702
          "The territory of Ukraine is a zone of direct interests of Russia" and it is desirable to back it up with a deed, and report the following about NATO.

          Yes, it was already, even the West admitted that the Russian Federation should do something, as "the zone and the historical homeland" and then ...
          Then it went out ..
      11. +7
        22 July 2014 13: 00
        Here is the true face of the Americans. They ALWAYS needed war. They cannot survive without war.
      12. +5
        22 July 2014 13: 34
        parusnik SU Today, 08:24
        Thus, Western analysts and Russian experts agree on one thing: the introduction of Russian troops into Ukraine may be a pretext for retaliatory actions by the NATO bloc, which will then lead to the Third World War .. "" "
        You are right on the Bulgarian Vanga ...
        2010-2014 - World War III
        -2028- a new type of energy
        -2179-first contact with extraterrestrial intelligence
        -2183-independence of the colony on Mars
        -2288 time travel.
        -2341-threat to the Earth from Space
        -3797-The death of the Earth and the flight of mankind to another planet
        ..in 1979 Vanga spoke about the great future of Russia (not the USSR, but Russia) .... "Glory to Vladimir, Glory to Russia" - her words .. Bulgaria will join ..
        1. -1
          22 July 2014 17: 00
          Hey garage, explain the minuses to grandma Wange? or her words about Vladimir and Russia ??
          1. -1
            22 July 2014 23: 51
            Quote: 222222
            Hey garage, explain the minuses to grandma Wange?


            Satanists are minus. laughing
      13. 0
        22 July 2014 17: 38
        I think the shot was earlier, now the Entente countries simply drag the situation into a knot, then a break and a war, but we must smoothly unleash what Russia is now doing.
      14. 0
        22 July 2014 17: 43
        http://www.avaaz.org/ru/petition/OON_Priznat_prezidenta_Ukrainy_Petra_Poroshenko
        _voennym_prestupnikom /? cIftaib
        Petition Poroshenko war criminal
      15. +1
        22 July 2014 20: 21
        Quote: parusnik
        Thus, Western analysts and Russian experts agree on one thing: the introduction of Russian troops into Ukraine could be a pretext for the response of the NATO bloc, which would then lead to World War III.


        The author makes a number of mistakes:
        1. The reason for the entry of the RF Armed Forces into the territory of Ukraine can only be an act of direct large-scale aggression by the latter with respect to civilian or military targets. The key phrase is large-scale aggression.
        2. The combat effectiveness of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, even taking into account support from NATO entities, is extremely low, and therefore the historically pro-Russian part of Ukraine will occupy the Armed Forces in a matter of hours. This is not bragging and hatred - our army has been gaining constant combat experience for 30 years and it is still considered one of the three strongest in the world.
        3. During the liberation, the information component will play a large role - the main thing is to fix the irrefutable fact of aggression and to dispel the enemy’s information attack to the maximum.
        4. A lot will also depend on the preventive actions of the Navy, Air Force and Strategic Missile Forces, which should at any cost cool the desire of overseas warriors to "show the commies their place" - the US ruling elite, like a maniac, is accustomed to the fact that their victim does not resist, but the risk of losing everything can stop them.
        5. In the event that paragraphs 1 - 4 will be accomplished for us at least for a year it will not be easy (economically the pressure will be enormous), but gradually the intensity will decline.
        6. In parallel, it is necessary to consolidate society and demonstrate to ordinary people as much as possible what and who our "opposition" really is.
        7. In light of the above, it is important that we do not have to be particularly afraid of China - it is more profitable for the latter to have a friendly neighbor on the border selling a very valuable resource cheaply than to allow the United States to deal with it. Fortunately, China is the next target for our "partners".
    2. +18
      22 July 2014 08: 24
      Looks like Putin understood what was happening. Therefore, he did not fit into Ukraine. Amers will have to come up with something else, but it seems that after the briefing of the Moscow Region, the chances that we were drawn into the war decreased
      1. +18
        22 July 2014 08: 30
        Provocations will be even tougher and pressure on America too.
        There pan or disappeared, there is no other way. Those who have stronger nerves. It seems that the top of Europe is also in this matter. and plays an important role.
        1. +8
          22 July 2014 08: 34
          Quote: Moment
          Provocations will be even tougher and pressure on America too.

          If the whole truth about MH17 comes up, then the Americans will have to wash off this shit for a long time, and no one will believe them. But the regime in Kiev will cease to exist, the United States itself will merge it.
          1. +6
            22 July 2014 09: 27
            Quote: Canep
            If the whole truth about MH17 comes up, then the Americans will have to wash off this shit for a long time, and no one will believe them.

            and when did this interfere with the mattresses? You speak Russian. they are the anglo-saxons. we have different mentality. remember - whatever she does - this is my country. so they put it on the whole world and on any ...
            1. 0
              22 July 2014 23: 14
              yeah .... The American government has long been not engaged in such garbage as providing any evidence. They simply announce the guilty and that’s all
          2. +2
            22 July 2014 09: 28
            If the whole truth about MH17 comes up, then the Americans will have to wash off this shit for a long time

            In your phrase, the keyword is "if". I am afraid that the western man in the street can be presented with everything completely different. The media are now shaping public opinion, and everything will depend on their decency.
          3. popov_au80
            +1
            22 July 2014 10: 16
            And so it is .....
          4. +1
            22 July 2014 12: 11
            Quote: Canep
            If the whole truth about MH17 comes up, then the Americans will have to wash off this shit for a long time

            in order not to get to this there will be an even more monstrous "bummer, mischievous, huge, hundred-zeal and bark" ...
            Mb terrorist attack with the use of nuclear weapons ... somewhere in the other end of the world ...

            These are the laws of the inform war that require an ever greater escalation and explosion of the brain of the townsfolk in order to overshadow all the previous ...
        2. DPZ
          +2
          22 July 2014 08: 44
          in the meantime, we measure ourselves by the strength of nerves there, people are dying and the cities are leveling the earth altogether. and also, even from an economic point of view: could it be better to give the militia SUFFICIENT help that they cleared their land than to accept numerous refugees and support them for unlimited time? On this site there are constant publications about the supply of one type of the latest weapons in one district or another in another, or what used to be brought to New Russia in these districts.
          1. +16
            22 July 2014 09: 32
            First let at least half of the men of military age become under arms, let them show that they really did everything, and then teach us what to do and how to help you. That in Novorossia was not enough small arms. Now nobody seems to be talking about this. Now give them the Russian army. Serbs are fighting, Russians are fighting, and where are the local fighters, where? And they still tell us how to save them. Yes, I don’t need this in Kamchatka, or someone in Irkutsk, Magadan, Grozny, this Donbass and Lugansk, as a territory. It is easier for us to give everyone who wants work and housing with us, but so that Russian citizens do not die for that land. For a long time already, Russia has been proposing when those who wish come from the former republics. So after all they go only when the cock whistles in the hollow. And now, Russia is to blame for the fact that Novorossia wanted to leave Ukraine. We owe them now. And who owes the Magadan, Kamchatka, Anadyr? Do you know how to live in villages on the coast of Kamchatka? There is nothing to teach us truth and conscience.
            1. +3
              22 July 2014 10: 19
              I support at 100%. Why do local men sit and do not protrude. So it’s not really what they need.
              Yes, we need. So that the buffer zone was.
              So then let us nevertheless strengthen our territory and border.
            2. +1
              22 July 2014 12: 59
              Quote: kyznets
              Yes, I don’t need this in Kamchatka, or someone in Irkutsk, Magadan, Grozny, this Donbass and Lugansk, as a territory. It is easier for us to give everyone who wants work and housing with us, but so that Russian citizens do not die for that land. For a long time already, Russia has been proposing when those who wish come from the former republics. So after all they go only when the cock whistles in the hollow.

              But I disagree fundamentally.
              Here is the question of geopolitics. NATO's presence in Ukraine is only a matter of time. And then how close to our border the ABM system will be deployed will determine the continued existence of Russia.
              1. +3
                22 July 2014 19: 24
                [quote = LuckyJone] [quote = kyznets] how close to our border will be deployed a missile defense system [/ quote]
                -------------------------------------------
                Iskanders in Cuba will appear on missile defense in Ukraine, and planes will fly there too. Believe me, there will be no ceremonies here anymore, because they understand that this is the land. Moreover, the region is for everyone.
      2. +20
        22 July 2014 08: 35
        Quote: FC SKIF
        Looks like Putin understood what was happening. Therefore, he did not fit into Ukraine.

        Then it turns out that Putin does not merge Russia, but saves her from a fucking warrior. And those who ask to bring the military into Ukraine merge it, hehe, subtly
        1. -4
          22 July 2014 10: 10
          We just wait for another Beslan, Budenovsk, Nord-Ost ...
          Only much more sacrificial and cynical. Even Arabs will not be able to beat the frostbite of ba.der.logs.
      3. -3
        22 July 2014 09: 10
        ... Amers will have to come up with something else ...

        For FC SKIF - Well, for example - to begin the assault on the Kremlin and Rublevka ...
        And "understanding and not getting in Putin" - will protest in the OSCE and will wait for condemnation of wrong actions by "the progressive world community ..." negative
      4. duke
        +3
        22 July 2014 09: 45
        FC Skif - I don’t think that they have decreased, they will just look for new, even more sophisticated reasons, so you should always be on alert and keep your eyes open ...
        1. 0
          22 July 2014 15: 33
          I agree. Now, experts at the scene of the crash will begin to work, and some Ukrainian RDG from the territory of the militia will shy away from it (from some mortar captured from the militia). Then again everything will be blamed on Russia. Americans provoke masters. One incident in the Gulf of Tonkin
    3. Vik.Tor
      +5
      22 July 2014 08: 24
      May there be no invasion, the Ukrainians themselves will crawl to Russia as under Bogdan Khmelnitsky, help me, save us, we’ve been cursed by damned forces.
      1. Witalka
        -3
        22 July 2014 10: 58
        Donbass militias do an excellent job, all of Ukrovsk are fighting uncoordinated, to hell, and on drug they all go like zombies on Maidan tea and cookies ...
    4. +6
      22 July 2014 08: 25
      the entry of Russian troops into Ukraine may be the reason for the response of the NATO bloc, which will then lead to the Third World War


      ,,, Russia will not bring in troops, they will find another reason, if we stick to the defensive position, sooner or later they’ll finish it anyway ,,
      1. +13
        22 July 2014 08: 42
        Quote: bubalik
        Then it turns out that Putin does not merge Russia, but saves her from a fucking warrior. And those who ask to bring the military into Ukraine merge it, hehe, subtly


        And there is. And thanks to the GDP that holds on despite all the boiling emotions.

        Quote: bubalik
        ,,, Russia will not bring in troops, they will find another reason, if we stick to the defensive position, sooner or later they’ll finish it anyway ,,


        And now, whose nerves are stronger.
      2. +1
        22 July 2014 10: 18
        Quote: bubalik
        the entry of Russian troops into Ukraine may be the reason for the response of the NATO bloc, which will then lead to the Third World War


        ,,, Russia will not bring in troops, they will find another reason, if we stick to the defensive position, sooner or later they’ll finish it anyway ,,

        There is nothing left for them but to finish. The survival and continued prosperity of the United States as a state is a great war. And they can provoke a big war only in Europe and only with the participation of Russia. Otherwise, Europe together with Russia will gobble up America without weapons, exclusively economically.
    5. +31
      22 July 2014 08: 25
      According to Professor George Malinetskiy, a hundred years ago, Russia had much more weight in world politics, but today the picture is different
      Yes, do not give a damn about statistics, Europe and the USA with a monkey in particular:
      1. +7
        22 July 2014 08: 29
        The Russians, the author believes, should not succumb to the provocations of Ukraine
        1. +1
          23 July 2014 01: 37
          A very sad film .. And the actors who played it do not like to watch it. Do you know why? In the last scene, the oath scene with sapper shovels, the boys were shot - real soldiers. After some time, part went to the Caucasus .. And unsuccessfully. Almost none of those who starred in the scene of taking the oath were left alive. Here is a movie ...
      2. +9
        22 July 2014 08: 31
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Yes, do not give a damn about statistics, Europe and the USA with a monkey in particular:

        After this button, both Europe and the USA will become statistics. Hello Sasha hi .
        1. +4
          22 July 2014 08: 36
          Quote: Canep
          The US will become statistics.

          Ashes, just ashes !!!
          Again hi
        2. popov_au80
          0
          22 July 2014 10: 24
          it's time to destroy this rot
          and America is generally a rabble who rushed from Europe in search of his fucking shit democracy
      3. +8
        22 July 2014 09: 23
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        According to Professor George Malinetskiy, a hundred years ago, Russia had much more weight in world politics, but today the picture is different

        crying In general, it is somehow strange:The scientist also recalled that Russia is the home of only 2% of the world population, and these two percent account for only 2,9% of the global gross product. If the page Russia is so frail, chegoy - then all climb to it? request
        1. +4
          22 July 2014 09: 46
          If the page Russia is so frail, chegoy - then all climb to it?

          resources doh.ya.
      4. popov_au80
        +2
        22 July 2014 10: 20
        And in general, why is Europe with Amers telling us what and how to do ...
    6. Vik.Tor
      +9
      22 July 2014 08: 27
      Yes, it is not for the states to fight with the "banana" republics, from Russia and on the scoreboard you can get good, but you want to live.
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      2. +13
        22 July 2014 09: 04
        Yes, look at their optimism!
        1. +7
          22 July 2014 09: 57
          "Look at their optimism!"

          yes this is a banter. they themselves die with obamycha.
        2. ufa1000
          +4
          22 July 2014 10: 10
          In pink football is super! Mmmmmmmmmmm
    7. +7
      22 July 2014 08: 30
      Is it possible that this Western bdl does not understand that in the event of World War III, the densely populated countries of Europe will first of all suffer. Or they hope to sit out under the mythical "umbrella" of the United States.
      1. +8
        22 July 2014 08: 47
        Well, actually, those who unleash wars spit deeply on ordinary people.
    8. +11
      22 July 2014 08: 30
      Thanks to the author!
      But how many shouts - "Putin has leaked the rebels ..."
      Who is screaming? 5 column or those who do not understand the situation.
      In such a tense global political environment, it would be nice to think what you say.
      1. +1
        22 July 2014 09: 44
        what the gdp does: it doesn’t fuss, as it was noted on the site, “it says a lot,” but a lot, but when it is necessary to act, it acts quickly and tough, and does not spread it on the table
    9. +1
      22 July 2014 08: 31
      The fall of the Boeing, allegedly hit by the "pro-Russian separatists" armed with the Kremlin, is there no reason?

      The murder of hundreds of peaceful Russians who, by the will of fate, find themselves in a hostile state - is there no reason?
      the entry of Russian troops into Ukraine may be the reason for the response of the NATO bloc

      On the basis of what will NATO act somehow? Ukraine is not a member of the bloc, their compatriots are not there. Who will be the invader?
    10. +2
      22 July 2014 08: 31
      In no case should troops be entered. It is clear to the common man that everything is done to provoke the conflict, provocation, shelling. Let's wait for today's meeting of the Security Council of the Russian Federation. It would be necessary to introduce a demon flying sky, and introduce peacekeepers under the auspices of the UN. There is no other way. soldier
      1. +2
        22 July 2014 10: 23
        not the fact that a flying sky will help.
        Imagine: our planes shot down a couple of Ukrainians. And then NATO, under the screams of the press, is already arranging a no-fly zone for our planes.
        And knocks one.

        What should we do?
        1. 0
          22 July 2014 11: 51
          Quote: asergu

          Unlimited air war?
        2. +2
          22 July 2014 11: 53
          Quote: asergu
          Imagine: our planes shot down a couple of Ukrainians. And then NATO, under the screams of the press, is already arranging a no-fly zone for our planes.
          And knocks one.

          What should we do?

          To drive a submarine to the shores of America and zhahnat them, that is, to establish a "no-fly zone" in the states themselves.
          1. +2
            22 July 2014 14: 13
            Quote: СРЦ П-15
            To drive a submarine to the shores of America and zhahnat them, that is, to establish a "no-fly zone" in the states themselves.

            Apparently there is a submarine off the coast of the USA, otherwise why then they are generally being built?
          2. +1
            22 July 2014 19: 36
            Quote: SRC P-15
            Quote: asergu
            Imagine: our planes shot down a couple of Ukrainians. And then NATO, under the screams of the press, is already arranging a no-fly zone for our planes.
            And knocks one.

            What should we do?

            To drive a submarine to the shores of America and zhahnat them, that is, to establish a "no-fly zone" in the states themselves.

            The best air defense is our tanks at their airfields wassat
    11. +8
      22 July 2014 08: 35
      The logic of not the first material is such that Russia should not send troops and generally protect their interests, because ultimately this will lead to the 3rd world ...
      Maybe then just immediately gasp first ?!
      If you give the analogy that a certain kamikaze bandit is robbing you, killing your loved ones, but at the same time threatens that if you try to resist him, he will blow up both you and yourself.
      It is necessary to tune in such a way that if some ub.lu.dki want the 3rd world, then let them get it. Or ... Or let's just kill ourselves and cleanse the living space for them ?!
      I otherwise do not accept the global alignment.
      1. +1
        22 July 2014 09: 27
        Quote: vvvvv
        The logic of not the first material is such that Russia should not send troops and generally protect their interests, because ultimately this will lead to 3rd world ..

        I support you very, very much. The essence of the article, in the words of Goblin - Puchkov, looks like this: on top - a bright wrapper with sparkles, and inside - a piece of shit.
    12. +6
      22 July 2014 08: 35
      Well, let’s say, they will drag us into a war, but to fight with whom?
      P.i.s.s.s.s.s. in a favorite manner of pulling up as in the movie "the boss will appear at the last moment" ....
      Europe?
      She has not yet forgotten what devastation and hunger are, believe me, to spend a lot of money, but how under arms ... the Germans will be the first, a nation like this "Drang nach Osten" will be remembered, but what else?
      P.E.D.I. and from Holland?
      Arabs from France.
      They’ll drive them to slaughter the Poles, some crap ...
      You can call it "hap-handedness" and underestimation of the enemy, but ours fight to the end, no matter what ... angry soldier am hi
      1. 0
        22 July 2014 11: 06
        I fully support your position. Europe is not before the war.
    13. +3
      22 July 2014 08: 39
      How much should you be dumb? Not what history does not teach! It is not possible to defeat Russia for one simple reason - the Russians do not give up, because God is with us!
      But now you just need to leave the conquered territories for yourself!
      1. +2
        22 July 2014 19: 39
        Quote: sem-yak
        How much should you be dumb? Not what history does not teach! It is not possible to defeat Russia for one simple reason - the Russians do not give up, because God is with us!
        But now you just need to leave the conquered territories for yourself!

        ---------------------------------
        Or maybe, as before, plowing the places of cities with a ban settles and let them go to Benin’s mother? wassat
    14. +14
      22 July 2014 08: 39
      It would be naive to believe that the same First World War would not have started if a nationalist with a "speaking" surname, Principle of Archduke Franz Ferdinand, had not been shot. Not for that Europe was preparing for war, they would have found another reason. In the same way as Hitler's attack on the USSR, the issue was resolved long ago, and did not depend on whether the Soviet Union would succumb to provocations or not. Hussein's regime in Iraq was sentenced by the United States long before Iraq's invasion of Kuwait, just as the invasion itself was staged and provoked. And Yugoslavia was sentenced in the same way as Libya. Those who sincerely believe that a tongue in the ass and a humble appearance will save you from war are naive people. However, if you allow yourself to be killed slowly, not as quickly as in a real war, then the "white master" of the United States will allow you to agonize a little longer. We must understand that the United States is the enemy, either we or us. The only way to preserve peace has long been known - if you want peace, prepare for war! Licking the US ass is also death for Russia.
      1. +1
        22 July 2014 10: 26
        So it seems like the GDP understands this. Here and there are teachings, an infusion into the military commissar. And now he is just playing for time.
        The inevitable is inevitable. And this is bound to happen, alas.
    15. +1
      22 July 2014 08: 41
      At the same time, eastern Ukrainians will join forces.
      There is no one to unite there.
    16. zzz
      zzz
      +1
      22 July 2014 08: 41
      At the same time, the task of the United States is to destroy the European Union, which will serve the rapid movement of the world to the Third World War: “So we are rapidly moving towards the Third World ...”

      Interestingly, does the European Union understand this? If he understands, then why is he talking about it? Do they need war too?
      1. +2
        22 July 2014 12: 55
        When rabbits are bred, do they understand that they are bred?
    17. +2
      22 July 2014 08: 44
      so where is this HELP, which should be a secret, but substantial?
      why the opposing side is not afraid to send this help under different covers and slogans ..?
    18. +4
      22 July 2014 08: 45
      Quote: bubalik
      the entry of Russian troops into Ukraine may be the reason for the response of the NATO bloc, which will then lead to the Third World War


      ,,, Russia will not bring in troops, they will find another reason, if we stick to the defensive position, sooner or later they’ll finish it anyway ,,

      Undoubtedly, the confrontation will always continue, it’s like a chess game with its peaks, aggravations, and even play, but no one dies in a chess game! Does anyone lie that they want such an aggravation that the Third World War begins (even if nuclear weapons are not used), hundreds of people die, the war can reach central Russia, the war will enter every house with grief! Those who scream most of all about the war, do they count on such a scenario that tomorrow they will come to him from the military registration and enlistment office, hand over the machine gun and send them to the front line! And on the other hand, maybe it’s worth cleaning the planet ?, the war has always been the rallying of nations and the purification of blood! But the most annoying thing is that even if we get to the mansion, we destroy all the Geyropei troops and the Amer troops helping them (including a lot of us), the war will reach the territory of America (well, if only in the form of a nuclear strike). You don’t think , I’m not a pacifist, all my life I worked with arms in my hands to defend my Motherland, but honestly, I don’t feel like a global, military conflict!
    19. +1
      22 July 2014 08: 49
      In 1836, Nicholas 1 decided to build a railway. One nuance of the Russian railway was already other European roads. Both in 1914 and 1941, it played a positive role in protecting the state. Enemy forces were forced to reload from their wagons to Russian (Soviet), which significantly slowed the offensive.
      Now imagine how the current authorities, for the sake of partners, are doing everything as in the West and how this could adversely affect the country's defense capability.
      1. +3
        22 July 2014 09: 23
        The width of the Russian railroad track is 60 inches or 1524 mm. That is wider than in Europe. The gauge in the USA has the same width. And changing bogies under the car is a trifling and rather quick thing.
        1. 0
          22 July 2014 11: 55
          Quote: saigon

          For what the cons are not clear, our track is really wider and the trolleys easily change.
      2. +3
        22 July 2014 09: 38
        Quote: Gardamir
        One nuance of the Russian railway was already other European roads.
        Maybe wider?
    20. +4
      22 July 2014 08: 51


      what will happen if Russia introduces troops to Ukraine
      1. Second
        -1
        22 July 2014 23: 35
        To introduce or not to introduce troops?
        The question does not make sense, the troops have already entered the Crimea. For Bandera (and the West), the South-East and the Crimea are one and the same. If they crush the South-East, they will go to the Crimea. The question is different: Will there be a surrender to the Bandera and fascists. The preconditions are already there and are visible to the naked eye. There were Bandera, the fascists are now - partners, security officials, official authorities, etc. The rhetoric has changed radically. But surrender won't save you. Loot from the oligarchy will be squeezed out anyway, Russia will face the scenario of Ukraine, Serbia, Libya. Putin received a black mark from the West and they no longer need an "effective manager". And in fact, they no longer need Russia in the form in which it is now. The choice is simple: either the surrender and the subsequent disintegration of Russia, or the fight against Bandera, the Nazis, NATO, the United States and further down the list.
    21. aL13n
      +6
      22 July 2014 08: 51
      Where are the Ukrainian commentators? :) Here I watch the news, read the comments, while terribly crazy.
      But the Ukrainians are not visible in the comments, unlike in the old days. The site has turned into an inter-ethnic mud pouring. The goals of the site have changed significantly, and this is very noticeable.
      The oligarchs play and profit, and we insult each other. Sadly, comrades! And ashamed.
      1. +5
        22 July 2014 09: 20
        Yes, we understand this, but yours somehow jumps around. And insults, if they sound on the site, are exclusively addressed to ukrov, I hope you don’t consider yourself one of them.
      2. +2
        22 July 2014 10: 24
        Yes, there was one "puylo" here, the gilyak was not at all weak. Here people think before they write. Ukrainians, lately, apart from slogans, can not give out anything.
        PS Nobody will say where did Carloson go? Although he did not often agree with him, he spoke with his brains and not with horses.
      3. 0
        22 July 2014 11: 58
        Quote: aL13n
        Where are the Ukrainian commentators? :)

        On the censor.
      4. -1
        22 July 2014 21: 18
        Quote: aL13n
        Where are the Ukrainian commentators? :)

        many left the site due to disagreement with the general line of VO. The latter left the site due to increasing pressure on Ukraine from the media. Even now VO has more than 50% of articles about Ukraine, and there are so few Ukrainians themselves on the site .... Once it was popular among Ukrainians.
        This is even good - otherwise, after reading an article like "an independent courtesan" with her obscenities and insults to Ukraine and Ukrainians - there would be a grandiose srach more abruptly than a tanko and a gazosracha.
        1. +3
          22 July 2014 22: 14
          There were those people with Ukrainian passports who still consider themselves Russian. And the Ukrainian is now our enemy, and their very name is now almost a curse. Alas, they themselves wanted this, albeit with overseas supply. Well, we need to get friends and brothers to the petty and evil people, to nothing. They will tease us - we will spread them, although for the time being we tolerate them, but not out of pity and brotherly feelings - they have already ended after Odessa. International reasons do not now allow leaving one and a half lines from former bros in history textbooks for universities. But the international conjuncture of a woman is windy ...
    22. soyuz-nik
      +3
      22 July 2014 08: 52
      Quote: FC SKIF
      like after a briefing of the Moscow Region, the chances that we were drawn into the war decreased


      I wish you good health, kamarada! I do not exclude that psi.n.d.s.s. can "cheat" with a record from their satellite.
      In addition, there is, for example, ocean cruise liners, on which there will be passengers with a crew of a thousand ... Such a liner will be drowned, and the Deception Mess will trynde that in this area a Russian submarine was spotted. Prove it: satellite videos will not help ...
    23. +6
      22 July 2014 08: 54
      The Third World ... they came up with a scarecrow. In their right mind nobody wants this. And they scare everyone who is against Washington lawlessness. Wake up to resist - get a world war. Mean silent and sit and wait until we come to you.
    24. +1
      22 July 2014 08: 55
      Well, everything, information processing has begun to justify the surrender of Novorossiya! But in my opinion, this is pure betrayal! Yesterday I saw a small film about the militia on VO, and I want to say: "The guys deceived you, you put your lives there, you are fighting for the people who voted for Novorossia, and Russia is" washing its hands "... The people of Donbass, who voted for they threw it to be with Russia, I am not afraid of this word, and the Kremlin does not even hide it!
      1. SergeyM
        +9
        22 July 2014 09: 43
        "People of Donbass". It is loudly said, but if, in addition to voting, these people also took up arms, then the war would have been on the banks of the Dnieper in June, and Kharkov factories would have been producing tanks for the Donbass army for two months. When in the video and in the photo I see that the beach is filled with people on vacation, that there are healthy "foreheads" in the city, with beer in hand they look at the passing militias, the concept of people ceases to be perceived.
        1. +7
          22 July 2014 10: 30
          They thought they would vote, and then the green men will come right away and save everyone.

          And then, in about 5 years they will start trying again "and we didn't ask, they themselves came and occupied us"
    25. +3
      22 July 2014 08: 57
      If Russia sends troops to Ukraine to protect the Russians, then there will be no third world!
      Why?
      The United States hopes to tie Russia to a local war with Ukraine, knowing that the Russians will not use weapons of mass destruction, relying on this, thinking that Russian Ukrainians will fight against the Russian "maskals, this has already happened - Afghanistan, Chechnya, Serbia. But this not so, Russian Ukrainians are fighting against Russian Ukrainians from the east only at gunpoint for fear wassat !!
      Yes, heaps introducing sanctions, America hopes to crush the economy of Russia, these are the true goals of the United States !!! namely the economy. They will crush the economy and crush the country, this has already happened with the Union.
    26. +1
      22 July 2014 08: 57
      It is not necessary to predict the situation in Ukraine so unambiguously, I think after the results of the investigation it will already be clear that the introduction of peacekeeping troops will be sanctioned by the Security Council of Europe, and may bypass the Soviet veto without. The UN jointly with the Russian peacekeeping forces will provide a buffer zone. I think that is why there is a total offensive on Donetsk and Lugansk, it seems that time is running out and the "state department." trying to manage to move this future buffer zone closer to the borders of Russia.
    27. +3
      22 July 2014 08: 58
      If you want to pull in the war, then this will happen to love. If they wanted to fight, they would have attacked the Crimea right away.
      1. -1
        22 July 2014 16: 10
        Exactly, they entered Georgia and no war happened in more favorable conditions for the USA, but right there in Ukraine MV3 will happen ...
        It was necessary to immediately send peacekeeping troops ...
    28. +4
      22 July 2014 09: 04
      Yes, the territory and population have decreased in comparison with the USSR, but it seems that understanding comes that retreating further will ruin the homeland. Perhaps the most difficult times await Russia, but it will survive and the response of the entire fascist scum will be adequate. Not the first time, it was always difficult to start, but it ended where it came from.
    29. +3
      22 July 2014 09: 05
      Here I’m trying again to throw an excerpt from becoming published on the LENTA RU portal yesterday. After the crash of the airliner in the Donetsk region, the Ukrainian authorities had a new argument. In Kiev, the incident was declared an act of "international terrorism" (while accusing Russia of involvement in the destruction of the aircraft). President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko in an interview with German Federal Chancellor Angela Merkel called for "a decisive rebuff to international terrorism and stop those who directed the terrorists, provided them with weapons and continue to support them." And the Secretary of the Security Council, Andrei Parubiy, said that Ukraine is "at the forefront in the war against the international security system."

      “Of course, we thank for support, for all sympathy and economic sanctions, but the time has come to put an end to aggression,” the speaker of the Verkhovna Rada summed up the day after the fall of the Boeing. “The time has come for the whole civilized world to unite with Ukraine and help destroy the terrorists, wherever they are, by starting to supply us with modern weapons and military equipment.”

      Although an international investigation of the disaster has yet to be carried out, Ukraine’s arguments with accusations of “terrorists” have already received some support from the West. US Secretary of State John Kerry, in particular, said that her requests are already being discussed with the Ukrainian side. According to him, only the option of sending the American military contingent there is excluded, all other types of assistance can be negotiated.
      This is an excerpt, I advise you to read in full.
      1. +7
        22 July 2014 09: 31
        Yeah, the terrorists! On Ukrainian planes, they fired at Malaysian specialists in Donetsk, did not even allow them to reach the crash site of the Boeing, and then they shuganuli artillery at the station. Putin and Shoigu sat at the controls, however ... wassat
    30. +6
      22 July 2014 09: 07
      Stop frightening people and causing panic. There will be no third world war ... Europe for the last half century has got used to living comfortably and without any risks. She is still capable of provoking a conflict, in extreme cases, give money and / or "morally" support one of the warring parties, but ...
      But to climb into the war itself, which can hurt not only the taxpayers' wallets, but it will not hit the taxpayers themselves. Especially when the loss account will not be in the tens and hundreds, but hundreds of thousands and millions ...
      And there, too, they are not fools sitting and are well aware that the last argument of the losing side (on both sides of the front line) will be the launch of ICBMs with nuclear warheads on the territory of a potential winner ...
      And after that, no one will be able to sleep softly and eat sweetly (see paragraph 1 "Europe is used to living comfortably") ...
    31. +1
      22 July 2014 09: 12
      I think there will be no "invasion", we do not need to fight on conditions that are not favorable for us! And if suddenly the bandars go to war on the Crimea, the result will be like in Georgia, only on the condition that the army is independent and so has lost VERY many people, forces and means in Novorossiya.
    32. tokin1959
      +2
      22 July 2014 09: 13
      Thus, Western analysts and Russian experts agree on one thing: the introduction of Russian troops into Ukraine could be a pretext for the response of the NATO bloc, which would then lead to World War III.


      1 Ukraine is not a member of NATO.
      2 To start the war against lousy Iraq, preparations were conducted for several months.

      The resident is afraid that they will impose sanctions, and backtracked, and similar little articles appear to justify the discharge of Novorosia.
      minus
      1. 0
        22 July 2014 16: 19
        At the expense of a member of NATO. NATO gavnoyedy slobber some kind of law or amendment at the expense of friends of NATO. Ukrozhopiya announce another NATO and here you are. But Naton’s friends and Georgia and Moldova are still tightened up. The law is a rubik's cube, twist it as you want and on any side you want the color you want.
    33. yulka2980
      0
      22 July 2014 09: 13
      In general, it is not clear what the EU is hoping for! After all, it’s a no brainer that the cold will come soon and Ukraine will start spraying European gas! But the GDP warned them that Russia was not responsible for gas extraction! It seems like the brain has disconnected in the whole West! wassat
    34. shiman.1378
      +4
      22 July 2014 09: 22
      AND IF NOT IN LEADING THE TROOPS, "WE WILL GET SHAME AND THEN A WAR" AND THE AMEREKOS WILL TURN THE WAR BY THE HANDS OF KHOKHLOV OVER THE CRIMEA
      1. +1
        22 July 2014 10: 34
        Yes, what a shame? And so already doused with ears of mud
    35. SergeyM
      +2
      22 July 2014 09: 28
      I think the puppeteers of the Obama administration should understand that in the event of a Russia-NATO conflict, there will be no winners. The conflict will sooner or later enter the nuclear phase. Everyone will lose, including them. I am not a supporter of fantastic scenarios, but the thought involuntarily suggests itself - a "third force" began to operate on Earth, interested in clearing the planet from people.
    36. +3
      22 July 2014 09: 41
      If Russia still secretly supports these fighters, then all that needs to be done is to send more secret assistance, the journalist writes.


      Here is the key phrase!
      If the Western journalist is saying this, God himself told us.
    37. +4
      22 July 2014 09: 48
      We will start to fight - there is no other way.
    38. 0
      22 July 2014 09: 48
      Quote: https://vk.com/wall206013411_22848

      Partial mobilization has been announced in United Ukraine. For Odessa, the Ministry of Defense gave a plan of 4500 "meat". In the training camps, recruits are openly delighted - go to the Crimea.

      Besides...

      In the south of Ukraine, the restoration of three former military airfields began: in
      Martynovka of the Nikolaev area, and also in Buyalyk and Chervonoglinsky in
      Odessa region.


      The US really needs a war ... am
      1. +3
        22 July 2014 13: 08
        And what do you suggest? Immediately give back both the Crimea and the Rostov Region. may carry. NATO will only introduce half-bumps.
    39. +4
      22 July 2014 09: 54
      Quote: Bubyr
      I think there will be no "invasion", we do not need to fight on conditions that are not favorable for us! And if suddenly the bandars go to war on the Crimea, the result will be like in Georgia, only on the condition that the army is independent and so has lost VERY many people, forces and means in Novorossiya.

      That is, for Crimea, which was recently Ukrainian and which we squeezed out, you are a "mountain", and now you can surrender Novorossiya, so what? You, too, like the Kremlin, sang - profitable is not profitable! It must be a shame, comrade ...
      1. +1
        22 July 2014 10: 36
        Why are you ashamed? No need to think at the household level. Think geopolitically.
        So the Americans arrange wars where they "think" with emotions.
    40. Roman070280
      +2
      22 July 2014 10: 00
      Excluding nuclear weapons, the ratio of Russia's power to NATO countries is 1 to 60.


      And taking into account nuclear weapons, the ratio is 1 to 1 wink
    41. Crang
      +4
      22 July 2014 10: 03
      Thus, Western analysts and Russian experts agree on one thing: the introduction of Russian troops into Ukraine could be a pretext for the response of the NATO bloc, which would then lead to World War III.

      No, the introduction of Russian troops into the territory of Ukraine will be OUR retaliatory actions to the lawlessness that dill is doing under the leadership of the United States. They are the first to climb and there is no need to scare us with "retaliatory actions." And what goofball estimated the military potential of Russia and NATO as 1 in 60? Well, bullshit.
    42. +2
      22 July 2014 10: 05
      the task of the United States is to destroy the EU

      No US task to control the EU. A single public entity is easier to manage than a large number of European countries. More expenses. Now the United States thinks only of itself, they raise other matters later, it will only be too late.
      Instead, Russia should allow Kiev to act in order for Ukraine to demonstrate to the world its "cruelty" and its "incompetence on the battlefield." At the same time, eastern Ukrainians will join forces.

      Thus, Western analysts and Russian experts agree on one thing: the introduction of Russian troops into Ukraine could be a pretext for the response of the NATO bloc, which would then lead to World War III.

      This is true, which Russia is doing. It stands and waits. And the West is shaking with fear and misunderstanding.
    43. +3
      22 July 2014 10: 12
      Quote: Canep
      Quote: Moment
      Provocations will be even tougher and pressure on America too.

      If the whole truth about MH17 comes up, then the Americans will have to wash off this shit for a long time, and no one will believe them. But the regime in Kiev will cease to exist, the United States itself will merge it.


      If the truth about the plane comes up, the Americans, as always, will make a confusing face and do not even think about laundering. They will find new reasons to run into Russia. And their project - dill will be protected for now.
    44. Under fly
      +5
      22 July 2014 10: 13
      And there will be NO war with Russia. Western and American leaders have enough intelligence when they begin to take care of "their loved ones." It is not for them to fight with Africans and Asians. THEM ONLY HAVE ENOUGH TO ENJOY FOR SANCTIONS and that's all. All the rest is garbage and frightened ...
    45. +12
      22 July 2014 10: 18
      Delivered an article minus a paragraph:
      "According to Professor Georgy Malinetskiy, a hundred years ago Russia had a much greater weight in world politics, but today the picture is different:" Today Russia is supported by 32% of the world's population, 39% are badly treated, while the United States is supported by 62%. So now, when we go to the Third World War, we are in a very difficult situation - we fell under the influence of the myth that the world is of different polarities. In fact, this is not so - the United States spent 20 years on weapons more than the whole world put together ... And Russia was ready for the First World War better than for the Third ... ""
      The author (not articles, but quotes) makes three controversial and even false statements:
      1) "a hundred years ago, Russia had a much greater weight in world politics" is not true, Russia was considered a backward village, capable of crushing only the masses.
      2) "Today Russia is supported by 32% of the world's population, 39% are badly treated, while the United States is supported by 62%" who believed that? Americans? Before the Great Patriotic War, the USSR had one ally - Mongolia, how critical was that?
      3) "Russia was ready for the First World War better than for the Third" - again it is not true, Russia was not even ready for the Russian-Japanese war. In terms of mass armament, Russia in 1914 was a very backward country. Now we have nuclear weapons with the ability to overcome missile defense and a local missile defense system - this our hypothetical enemy does not have, he simply could not create technologically. Russia in 1914 had a complete confusion in views and opinions, now we have a political leader, strong military groups, Soviet revanchists and an active position of the church, with little support from the people of the "fifth column".
      And further:
      "Excluding nuclear weapons, the ratio of the power of Russia to NATO countries is 1 to 60". What is the indicator? number? tanks? aircraft? How critical is the size of the US Army without taking into account the transport component and dispersion around the world? How can you compare the strong American Air Force and weak air defense with the mirror situation in Russia? Or the presence of drones from the United States with electronic warfare from Russia?
      1. +2
        22 July 2014 12: 16
        Plus, the first adequate comment. But, it would be beneficial for someone to frighten the people of the 3rd World War, most likely the same USA, because in the case of the introduction of our armed forces, Ukraine will become part of the Russian Federation (or protectorate), which will make us stronger (and this is not profitable for Amers).
    46. +1
      22 July 2014 10: 25
      Quote: PDM80
      Besides who will fight then ?! Yes, the number of equipment and soldiers of NATO is ahead of Russia, but in quality ?! Geysoldats who don’t want to fight coldly, the Americans who when hundreds go dead, will devour their own government, remember the protests of the Vietnam War.

      Don't forget, the war is now being waged differently. Tank wedges and infantry shouting "hurray" are no longer relevant. If it starts, it will be a remote, gradual suppression of the main infrastructure nodes, communications, air defense and other things. And in parallel with this, the maximum possible pressure will be exerted in all other "non-military" directions - economic, political. By the way, it has already begun, though not yet in full force. The whole question is how strong the country's leadership will be, to what "line" they will resist. It is they, and under their leadership we are already, and not just ordinary citizens-patriots who "despite the betrayal of the leadership of the command defended everything." Because it is understandable that if the country's leadership at some point begins to openly surrender the country to any patriotic feelings and readiness to die, no guerrilla actions and self-sacrifice will save the country.
      Of course, that side will also suffer damage, and most likely significant. But apparently their analysts calculated something there, and found this damage acceptable ...
      And judging by the development of events, these same gentlemen came to the conclusion that Russia would not use its strategic nuclear forces under any circumstances.
      1. +1
        22 July 2014 13: 52
        Quote: Mestny
        Don't forget, the war is now being waged differently. Tank wedges and hurray infantry are no longer relevant.

        Sorry, but this is complete crap, like a hundred years ago and three hundred years ago, now artillery and infantry dominate the battlefield, all other branches of the army work for them. You made your conclusions on the basis of local sluggish conflicts of recent times, but they are not a standard
    47. +3
      22 July 2014 10: 30
      Heralds of the apocalypse FIGS! What are you about?! What a war, who will go to the complete destruction of EVERYTHING AND EVERYTHING ?! Stop scaring people, now is not the time and the wrong people. Local tension in a single country, with the aim of redistributing material resources - this is what 3 world. And it has been conducted around the world for a long time.
      1. 0
        22 July 2014 17: 20
        But wasn’t the world war in Libya or Iraq?
        Lower case.
        Several countries, under the cover of a fig leaf of sanctions and permits, inflict a massive blow to a sovereign state.
        Is this not a world war?
        What then?
    48. +3
      22 July 2014 10: 37
      Quote: Chicot 1
      There will be no third world ... Europe over the past half century has become accustomed to living comfortably and without any risks.

      They were practically convinced there that Russia compared to Europe is so, a bunch of savages. And the destruction of these will be an easy pleasant walk for the good of the entire "Western civilization", that during the first flight of a democratic rocket these Russians will simply scatter.
      Well, you have not read the story of 2 MV? Then they also promised exactly the same thing.
      1. +1
        22 July 2014 17: 17
        They are not literate. They don’t know how to read.
        But we can.
        And they told us - do not mess with the capitalists, they’ll be deceived.
        And we got in touch.
        And here is the result.
    49. +1
      22 July 2014 10: 39
      Guys! The French FIGARO conducts a Boeing survey - Russia shot down or not. We follow the link and click NON

      http://www.lefigaro.fr/actualites/2014/07/21/01001-20140721QCMWWW00108-pensez-vo

      us-que-les-russes-soient-responsables-du-crash-du-vol-mh-17-de-la-malaysia-airli

      nes.php
    50. Mol
      Mol
      +6
      22 July 2014 10: 41
      Oh, and with a smell the same little article! How much more! "... Western analysts and Russian experts agree on one thing: the introduction of Russian troops into Ukraine may be a pretext for retaliatory actions by the NATO bloc, which will then lead to the Third World War." Again they frighten the Third World us. The most interesting thing is that both the West and "ours" link the beginning of the war only with the intervention of the Russian Federation. And the fact that, first of all, the actions of the United States are pushing the world to war, there is silence about this. I do not care about the opinion of the West, but the opinion of the Russian "comrades" (statements that this is another mythical 350th column is not being rolled) is very upsetting. They are trying with all their might to form public opinion in the country that assistance to Novorossiya should not be provided. Otherwise, war! But the liars keep quiet that the war against Russia has been going on for a long time. And what is happening in Ukraine is not ATO! This is it, the very same, war and genocide! War against the Russians, against the Russian world and against Russia. Not cold, but very hot. It goes on at the very borders of the country, but any thinking person understands that after the death of Novorossiya, the war on the borders of the Russian Federation will not end, it will go further, to our home. But it turns out that those in power do not care. Maybe because their homes are not in Russia? The most important thing is that there is no World 3. After all, then not only the Russian land will be bombed, not only the Russians will be killed, then both the "civilized" Europeans and the cunning Yankees will have to wash with blood. And some people really don't like it. And not only in the West.
      1. Witalka
        -8
        22 July 2014 11: 10
        somewhere I already heard it) Pyakin VV spoke the same way ..
    51. +1
      22 July 2014 10: 48
      При этом задача США — развалить Евросоюз,


      ЕС настолько деградировал, что для него перспектива погружения в ядерную зиму менее пугающая, чем санкции их американских хозяев.
    52. +2
      22 July 2014 10: 51
      Со времен изобретения ЯО не было ни одной мировой войны. И не будет.
      1. 0
        22 July 2014 23: 56
        Quote: korol yasheriz
        Со времен изобретения ЯО не было ни одной мировой войны. И не будет.


        Япония в 1945 тоже так думала. laughing
    53. +1
      22 July 2014 10: 52
      Совещание Совбеза не зря запланировано на 22-е июля? Хватит отмалчиваться-лучше то не становится!
    54. +2
      22 July 2014 11: 02
      How to turn the tide in Novorossia without the intervention of Russian troops?

      In the eyes of the couch general. the main problems of the Opolentsians are: 1) lack of reliable supplies and rear and 2) significant superiority of Ukrainian troops in numbers and equipment around Lugansk and Donetsk.

      About such things. as the absence of the backbone of the army of New Russia in the form of experienced specialists of the main military specialties and the unwillingness of a significant part of the local population to take up arms to protect their home. keep silence.

      Also a problem seems to be the lack of a unified command of the DPR and LPR troops.

      By and large. now there is a war of extermination, the result of which will depend on that. who has more resources - military and human.

      What could theoretically be done about it?

      1. It is necessary to achieve diplomatic recognition of the DPR and LPR by Abkhazia and Transnistria.

      This is necessary for that. to ensure the supply of weapons (captured Ukrainian-Georgian equipment from South Ossetia) to the DPR and LPR. South Ossetia has already recognized the DNI and LC, the next step needs to be taken. Abkhazia is needed here for the logistics of 6 delivery of equipment by sea through Mariupol (though for these purposes Mariupol will have to be beaten off one way or another).

      2. to reduce the concentration of troops around Donetsk and Lugansk. need to open a second front. and a third is better. so that part of the troops was forced to retreat to new hot spots.

      What could be the direction - Kharkov and Odessa.

      Why Kharkov: this is the last truly pro-Russian city. where else could a referendum be theoretically possible (of course, after clearing it of Ukrainian forces).

      Also, do not underestimate the defense potential of Kharkov: now tanks and self-propelled guns for the Ukrainian army are being repaired there. it would be good to deprive them of this resource and put it at the service of New Russia. Kharkovites could replenish Strelkov’s army.

      Why Odessa: in general terms, do not forget about that. what they did to Odessa residents on 2 in May ... I think. they remember. The strategic importance of the port of Odessa for military supplies by sea is also clear. Judging by the information. Now the Poles are driving their equipment there.

      How to do it in practice: probably. It would be effective if Transnistria would act on the side of New Russia after recognition of the conflict. Transnistria borders on Odessa region. Geographically, it is sandwiched between Moldova and Ukraine. who have signed an association with the EU and will soon overcome Transnistria.

      By and large, the only chance for Transnistria to survive is to join the New Russia, and ideally through New Russia, to Russia.

      Given the Transnistrian ties between Strelkov and Antyufeev, one could resolve this issue and ensure that volunteers from Transnistria enter Odessa and take control of Mariupol.

      Thus, a second front would be open.

      As for Kharkov, it’s clear that you won’t get there by open march. It is necessary to enter Kharkov in small groups in civilian, weapons separately in caches. all with the help of trusted local sympathizers.

      On day D and H, groups arriving in Kharkov could take up arms. put on masks and take the city from the inside, organizing its defense, thereby opening a third front.

      After the opening of the second and third fronts. the military situation can radically change in favor of New Russia.

      Add to this the economic and political problems of Kiev, where the probability of a third Maidan and a new coup is extremely high, which increases the likelihood of survival of New Russia. After a new coup, the new government will be illegitimate. which will give rise to part of the Ukrainian troops, and so do not want to fight, refuse to comply with criminal orders.

      http://narodedin.com/post/Kak-perelomit-voennuju-situaciju-v-Novorossii-/
      1. +1
        22 July 2014 13: 01
        Цитата: divangeneral Сегодня, 11:02
        В Харьков надо заходить небольшими группами в гражданском, оружие отдельно в схронах. все с помощью проверенных местных из сочувствующих.


        Ну это не просто сочувствующие, а уж очень сочувствующие должны быть! А несочувствующим, среднестатистическим что делать??? Не надо заходить в Харьков с оружием и масками. Это пройденный этап с очень наглядными последствиями. Я не хочу, чтобы там начались обстрелы и бомбёжки и погибли мои родные! Тебе бы было приятно такое в своём городе? На себя сначала примерь!
    55. +3
      22 July 2014 11: 08
      The scientist also recalled that Russia is the home only for 2% of the global population, and these two percent give only 2,9% of the global gross product. Excluding nuclear weapons, the ratio of Russia's power to NATO countries is 1 to 60.


      Значит снова Мы вынуждены доказать обратное, но у меня есть уточнение.
      1. Не Мы начинаем.
      2. Перед войной - Обязательно физически устранить всю 5 колонну в стране.
      1. -2
        22 July 2014 12: 19
        Пятая колонна рулит Россией. Устранить её - ослабить Россию, рисковать Россией.
        Не устранять 5-ю колонну = ликвидировать Россию.
        До очень сложного и рискованного выбора довел страну наш лидер, заигравшись с либерастами и олигархами.
    56. +1
      22 July 2014 11: 09
      дабы Украина продемонстрировала миру свою «жестокость» и свою «некомпетентность на поле боя».
      Вообще-то в ходе этих "демонстраций" люди гибнут...
      Сладков сказал в передаче у Соловьёва, европейцы не считают русских и украинцев полноценными людьми, которые тоже могут испытывать страдания, гибнуть, терять имущество и становиться беженцами. От того и реакция на массовые убийства мирного населения такая - никакая. Я вот вспоминаю, какая развернулась в Европе кампания по сбору средств в помощь голодающим в СССР в 21/22-м годах. Озлоблённая, полуразрушенная Европа, ещё только-только выпустившая из рук оружие и то приняла чужую беду как свою собственную. в своё время смотрел документальный фильм на эту тему. Потрясло...А сейчас европеец -это надменное, сытое, равнодушное ко всему чужому страданию существо. В основном...Вот уж где основной ареал обитания диванозавров, так это в Европе...
    57. 0
      22 July 2014 11: 14
      ...ввод российских войск на Украину может явиться поводом для ответных действий блока НАТО, что затем приведёт к Третьей мировой войне.
      совершенно точно подмечено! я думаю, что не всё потеряно, ведь когда-нибудь мир узнает о зверствах бандерлогов на Украине
    58. +2
      22 July 2014 11: 23
      ДОНЕЦК/БАЛИ (Индонезия), 22 июл — РИА Новости. Группа малайзийских экспертов, пытавшаяся проехать на место крушения Boeing, попала под обстрел украинской авиации, сообщил РИА Новости представитель ополчения, сопровождавший машины экспертов.

      Группа из 12 малайзийских экспертов и чиновников правительства прибыла в Донецк из Харькова в понедельник во второй половине дня. При этом в Донецк они прибыли с опозданием, так как украинские силовики утром 21 июля неожиданно начали на севере Донецка силовую операцию — они обстреляли из артиллерии район железнодорожного вокзала и попытались занять поселок Пески, а также город Дзержинск, расположенный на севере от Донецка, неподалеку от трассы Харьков — Донецк. По данным мэрии Донецка, при обстреле города погибли пять мирных жителей, 12 были ранены. В Дзержинске в боях между ополченцами и Нацгвардией погибли семь ополченцев и большое количество нацгвардейцев.

      «Когда мы прибыли на донецкий вокзал, раздались выстрелы. Гражданские лица в панике бросились бежать в поисках убежища. Украинская армия начала новое наступление», — пишет из украинского Грабово корреспондент малайзийской газеты Star.

      Сразу после прибытия в Донецк группа малайзийцев решила отправиться на восток области, в район крушения авиалайнера около города Торез, где они должны были осмотреть поезд с телами погибших. По свидетельству одного из сопровождавших их ополченцев, на середине пути малайзийцы стали свидетелями налета украинской авиации: самолеты обстреляли ведущую из Донецка трассу, одна случайная машина была сожжена. После этого малайзийцы решили вернуться в Донецк, где премьер самопровозглашенной ДНР Александр Бородай передал им «черные ящики». Ночью сюда же прибыл поезд с телами погибших.
    59. +2
      22 July 2014 11: 24
      Байден: Я посмотрел в глаза Путину и сказал ему, что души не увидел
      Вице-президент США Джо Байден рассказал, как он в 2011 году смотрел в глаза Владимиру Путину, сообщает Reuters


      В интервью New Yorker он вспомнил, как встречался с Путиным, тогда премьер-министром в Москве. Путин показывал ему свой кабинет, они говорили через переводчика. Байден похвалил обстановку и пошутил: «Изумительно, на что только способен капитализм». В этот момент они оказались совсем рядом, и, по словам Байдена, он сказал: «Господин премьер-министр, я смотрю в ваши глаза и думаю, что у вас нет души». На это Путин глянул на него, улыбнулся и сказал: «Мы понимаем друг друга».

      В июне 2001 г. президент США Джордж Буш-младший после встречи с Путиным в Словении заявил, что посмотрел российскому президенту в глаза и смог понять его душу. Он назвал Путина честным, заслуживающим доверия человеком.
    60. +3
      22 July 2014 11: 26
      The commander of the Serbian Chetniks, Bratislav Zhivkovich, said that a large detachment of Serbian volunteers arrived in the evening.

      “Half an hour ago, 205 volunteers arrived from Serbia, all of them will replenish the“ Jovan Shevich ”unit, in which, before their arrival, there were 45 people. Thus, the unit of the Slavic Chetnik squad “Jovan Shevich” became the largest in terms of the number of fighters, increasing the number from 45 to 250.

      Потерь у нашего отряда до сих пор нет, прибывает всё больше и больше добровольцев из славянских стран, чему я очень рад, поскольку благодаря этому сербы и хорваты сплочаются вновь, мы — сербы как никто понимаем всю важность и значимость славянского братства, тем более нам выпал шанс воевать бок о бок с русскими. Ну, а как же нам по-другому (смеётся), мы без русских не можем!»
      ТОЛЬКО РОССИЙСКОЕ ПРАВИТЕЛЬСТВО НЕ ХОЧЕТ ЭТОГО ПОНИМАТЬ...вОЗНИКАЕТ ВОПРОС А КТО В НЕМ???
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      1. +1
        22 July 2014 11: 36
        бУШ В 90Е ГОДЫ ЗАЯВИЛ, 3 МИРОВАЯ ВОЙНА ИДЕТ!
    62. +2
      22 July 2014 11: 33
      Статья с никудышней аналитикой - какая 3 мировая война при гарантии полного взаимного уничтожения? Особенно перл понравился: Россия была лучше готова к 1 чем к 3 мировой войне-это лапотная , неграмотная в тот момент страна? Историю учить лучше надо! В начале 20 века Россия все войны проиграла при преступном царе Николае 2.
    63. Andrey82
      +1
      22 July 2014 11: 33
      Ну вот и начали нас запугивать Третьей Мировой. В мире напичканном ядерным оружием (!).
    64. +3
      22 July 2014 11: 34
      Штаты, почему то, наивно полагают, что развязав войну на границах России они сами будут в полной безопасности. Им нужно доказать, что это не так. Например, почему бы не прикрепить к днищу танкера, идущего к нефтяному терминалу штатов зажигательную мину? Одновременно, уронить на АЭС Боинг, и немного подорвать газопроводы?
    65. +5
      22 July 2014 11: 35
      Twenty five again
      1. 0
        22 July 2014 12: 04
        Мамай Обаме братан!!! гыгыгы))))) soldier
      2. 0
        22 July 2014 23: 58
        Уши не отморозь. laughing
    66. Panther45
      +2
      22 July 2014 11: 39
      Russians, the author believes, should not succumb to the provocations of Ukraine. Provocations are being undertaken for the Russian troops to cross the border, which will give NATO a justification for interfering in the affairs of Eastern Europe.

      Instead, Russia should allow Kiev to act in order for Ukraine to demonstrate to the world its "cruelty" and its "incompetence on the battlefield." At the same time, eastern Ukrainians will join forces.

      Thus, Western analysts and Russian experts agree on one thing: the introduction of Russian troops into Ukraine could be a pretext for the response of the NATO bloc, which would then lead to World War III.
      ================================================== ======
      Самая подлая статья написанная автором под диктовку "пятой колонноы".Вражина России.
    67. serge
      +2
      22 July 2014 11: 40
      Если укрофашисты победят на Донбассе, это будет поражение именно России. Общественное мнение на Западе склонится к убеждению о военной слабости России, вот тут-то подготовка к войне против России и начнётся. Как там завещал Слободан Милошевич? "Запад - это бешеная собака, которая вцепится вам в горло". Собака нападает на слабого. В 1936-1939 гг. испанские "ополченцы" под нашим руководством проиграли гражданскую войну в Испании. Результатом всего лишь через два года было глобальное вторжение Запада в СССР. Проигрыш военного конфликта на Украине даст западной бешеной собаке понять,что на нас нападать можно. Вторгаясь или не вторгаясь на Украину, Россия должна так дать украинцам по зубам, чтобы у них даже мыслей не возникало о том, что русских можно убивать безнаказанно. Тем самым мы не приблизим Третью Мировую Войну, а наоборот, отсрочим или отменим её.
    68. rodevaan
      +3
      22 July 2014 11: 41
      ДО ТЕХ ПОР, ПОКА РОССИЯ МОЖЕТ АДЕКВАТНО ОТВЕТИТЬ ЗАПАДУ И НАНЕСТИ ЕМУ НЕПОПРАВИМЫЕ ПОТЕРИ - ТРЕТЬЕЙ МИРОВОЙ И ВОЙНЫ С НАТО НЕ БУДЕТ!
    69. Alexan
      +2
      22 July 2014 11: 43
      В мире работает только политика сильного. Если Северная Корея плюет на всех - это не значит, что у неё за спиной стоит Китай. Просто им терять нечего - долбанут, потом расхлебывай. "Как бы не было третьей войны" - это отговорки слабого, выдумали красивую мантру и дундим. Время упущено из-за ссыкливости и корысти политиков. В апреле всё можно было сделать тихо и красиво, как в Крыму. Сейчас только всё усугубляется и потребует куда большей крови. На Россию могут полезть только отмороженные саакашвили или порошенки. Ни одна другая армия мира не сделает это! Самоубийц в сытых обществах нет! Разговаривать только надо не "молчанием", а фразой "хотите войны - получите!" Управляется только всё не чувством патриотизма и государственным интересом, а мелко-шкурным. Я всегда был анти-сталинцем, но уже меняю свои взгляды, глядя на либералов. Пусть меня поставили бы к стенке. но и это гнидьё было бы рядом!
    70. 0
      22 July 2014 11: 53
      Friends, actively voting!
      Are the Russians to blame for the fall of the Boeing-vote of the newspaper Figaro
      http://www.lefigaro.fr/actualites/2014/07/21/01001-20140721QCMWWW00108-pensez-vo
      us-que-les-russes-soient-responsables-du-crash-du-vol-mh-17-de-la-malaysia-airli
      nes.php


      The first line of uoi-yes
      Second line non-no
      And look do not confuse!
      Now with a margin in 10% leads, no
      1. 0
        22 July 2014 12: 05
        Stas57
        Чего то перешел по ссылке-пишет такой страницы не существует,может с российским ip туда не пускают или еще чего
    71. 0
      22 July 2014 11: 54
      Третья мировая выгодна только США, та же история что и с ВОВ, все воюют а они жиреют, вот только сейчас жиреть после некому будет, пепел ядерной войны накроет землю...финита ля комедия.
    72. 0
      22 July 2014 12: 10
      не думаю, что ЕС даст себя настолько сильно В ОЧЕРЕДНОЙ раз одурачить. уже два раза они платили своей кровью за авантюры саксов. Та и в НАТО делали заявления, что не собираются воевать с РФ из-за Украины. все понимают, что это может стать началом очень стремительного конца человечества!
    73. Alexandr 2
      -1
      22 July 2014 12: 15
      Много можно рассуждать о соотношении сил. Но, это все разговоры.
      Практика показывает что западные страны трусливы и никогда не будут рисковать за мало им известную Украину (Бандеровскую).
      Новороссия часть России. Отдать её США, значить отдать в будущем остальные территории.
    74. 0
      22 July 2014 12: 22
      Странная статья, а сколько нужно ещё смертей детей, женщин, стариков тысячи, а если и этого количества не заметят, миллионы МЫ для запада НИКТО, это видно по поведению и европ-в и америко-в.Кто завалил борт, было понятно с самого начала, америкосы со своими хвалёными средствами наблюдения, где результаты этих наблюдений, их или нет или они есть но не отвечают интересам амеров, тогда получается, что вся эта техническая сили сша просто блев, они ничего не слышат и ничего не видят, получается сша технически отсталая и бездарная страна. Притом их президент и вся власть просто болтуны. Первое- всех послов стран обвинивших РОССИЮ в гибели самолёта выслать из России, до тех пор пока публично не принесут извинения.Второе- начать массовую поставку оружия ополченцам, разрешить нашим гражданам вступать в ополчение.Эти майданутые понимают только силу, в том числе и их покровители вся эта гнилая западная демократия.
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    76. 0
      22 July 2014 12: 48
      Считаю, очень верным расклад:http://www.regnum.ru/news/polit/1828106.html
    77. 0
      22 July 2014 12: 51
      Quote: parusnik
      Thus, Western analysts and Russian experts agree on one thing: the introduction of Russian troops into Ukraine could be a pretext for the response of the NATO bloc, which would then lead to World War III. And the death of a Boeing, like a shot of the Gabriel of the Principle ....

      Сомневаюсь, что из-за этих свидомых начнется третья мировая! Самоубийц среди западников немае!
      Тут у них планы РЕГИОНАЛЬНЫЕ, с глобальным направлением, но никак не ГЛОБАЛЬНО-КАТАСТРОФИЧЕСКИЕ!
      Задача стоит придавить РОССИЮ экономически, территориально, политически, но никак не военно!
      У них ни сил, ни духа ни желания воевать с нами нет! Простое шакальё!
    78. 0
      22 July 2014 12: 58
      КИЕВ, 22 июл — РИА Новости. Парламент Украины утвердил указ президента Петра Порошенко о частичной мобилизации; это решение на заседании во вторник поддержали 232 парламентария при необходимом минимуме в 226 голосов.
      дождались? развели как лохов! нельзя вводитьь! вот и нельзхя. еще в маре раздавили без крови - а тепрь уже точно война!!Й!
      1. RUSLAT
        0
        22 July 2014 13: 48
        Не и пусть мобилизуют. История учит, что оружие данное народу всегда оборачивается против угнетателей.... Хунта пилит сук на котором сидит.....
    79. 0
      22 July 2014 13: 28
      Кто бы что бы не говорил третья мировая будет с применением ядерного оружия(смотрите доктрину РФ).Самое интересное про то что к первой мировой Россия была лучше подготовлена чем сейчас(учите историю).
    80. P-38
      +1
      22 July 2014 13: 40
      If Russia does not support the rebels operating inside Ukraine, then it looks like these fighters are able to defeat Kiev’s forces and unite with each other to wage the “classic partisan war” - independently, without the participation of Moscow.

      Если Россия всё же тайно поддерживает этих бойцов, то всё, что нужно сделать, так это отправить тайной помощи побольше

      Правильно, именно так! Войска вводить не надо. Пусть туда идут добровольцы, пусть направляют боеприпасы. До диванных воинов Донецка и Луганска не доходит, что война придёт к ним? Так пусть она придёт к ним! В этом огне и выплавится Новороссия. Я не за кровь и смерть, была бы возможность обойтись без них, я бы был "за". Но, видимо, уже не обойдёмся.
    81. RUSLAT
      0
      22 July 2014 13: 45
      Третья мировая война идет с момента образования блока НАТО. И Россия проводит пассивную оборону постепенно теряя союзников и территории. Но страшнее всех внешних врагов ,, свои предатели" ..... Которые за ,, звонкую монету" могут продать кого угодно..... Исторически, Россия в открытом бою всегда побеждала, а предатели губили все победы....
    82. 0
      22 July 2014 13: 49
      По словам профессора Георгия Малинецкого

      Вот, его биография:
      (род. 1956, Уфа) — российский математик. Доктор физико-математических наук, профессор, заместитель директора Института прикладной математики им. М. В. Келдыша РАН (ИПМ), руководитель сектора «Нелинейная динамика» ИПМ. Член редакционной коллегии журнала Рефлексивные процессы и управление и альманаха История и Математика. Редактор серии «Синергетика: из прошлого в будущее» издательства «УРСС». Лауреат премии Ленинского комсомола (1985) и премии Правительства Российской Федерации в области образования (2002). Области научных интересов и основные научные достижения * Прикладная математика, * математическое моделирование нелинейных процессов, * нелинейная динамика, * компьютерный анализ и прогноз поведения сложных систем, * методы анализа данных, * математическое моделирование исторических процессов, клиодинамика. Автор более 350 научных работ. Первые работы Г.Г. Малинецкого в ИПМ им. М.В. Келдыша РАН в 1977-1982 гг. были связаны с анализом нестационарных диссипативных структур, развивающихся в режиме с обострением, в нелинейных системах типа реакция-диффузия. Г.Г. Малинецким был исследован широкий круг проблем лазерной термохимии и теории СВЧ-пробоя. Выделен класс задач, в которых на развитой стадии могут возникать пространственно локализованные диссипативные структуры. Построенная теория позволила обнаружить предсказанные эффекты при воздействии лазерного излучения небольшой мощности на поверхность металлов. В 1989-1994 гг. им были получены принципиальные результаты в области прогноза поведения сложных систем. Были разработаны эффективные вычислительные алгоритмы оценки количественных характеристик динамического хаоса по временному ряду наблюдений, широко применяемые в настоящее время. Эти методы были эффективно использованы при решении ряда задач геофизики, гидродинамики, медицинской диагностики. Был предложен ряд новых подходов к прогнозу редких катастрофических событий. В частности, были разработаны новые модели теории самоорганизованной критичности и распознающие нейронные сети с хаотическим поведением элементов. Применение последних резко снижает возможность ложного распознавания образов и вероятность эффекта "ложной памяти".

      Кому интересно предлагаю пройти по ссылке и ознакомиться с его работой "Доклад о перспективах РФ" опубликованный 30 июня 2009г. Есть над чем поразмыслить.http://spbs.rusphysics.ru/files/Malineckiy.Doklad.pdf
    83. 0
      22 July 2014 13: 52
      «Сегодня Россию поддерживают 32% населения в мире, плохо относятся — 39%, тогда как США поддерживают 62%.
      Что то странные проценты у профессора.Сша кроме их ближайших шавок,таких как Англия,Канада и Австралия,безоговорочно больше ни кто не поддерживает.Что то профессор попутал.У России в процентном отношении поддержки больше.
    84. +1
      22 July 2014 13: 54
      Barack Obama is dying. After 10 years, he becomes bored, and he asks God to let him go to Earth to see how his country is doing. God is letting go.
      Obama in New York comes to the bar, orders a beer and asks the bartender how the country is doing, how it is developing, what problems it solves.
      The barman is surprised:
      - What problems can be? We are a great empire, everything around us.
      - How is ours? And Iraq, Afghanistan?
      - Yes, everything is already ours!
      - And Europe, Africa, the Middle East?
      The bartender takes out a globe from under the rack and twists it proudly:
      - I say - we are an empire, the whole world belongs to us!
      Obama, joyful, proud and contented, finishes his beer and says:
      - Well, thanks, friend! How much do I have to pay?
      Bartender:
      - One ruble and twenty kopecks ...
    85. 0
      22 July 2014 13: 59
      Да уж знатно кошмарит автор статьи. Согласен что надо держать "ушки на макушке" но не до такой же степени.Уже идет война, гибнут люди, страна несет убытки. Но это ожидаемая геополитическая возня. Сомнительно, что матрасники пойдут на прямые боевые действия, кишка тонка, Россия уже не та и последствия будут очень паршивые для всего мира. Так экономику они себе не поддержат.
      Укропы конечно будут из кожи лезть, что бы найти причину списать ожидаемую их экономическую катастрофу, ожидаемы и дальнейшие провокации. Но вся надежда на мудрость наших политиков, спецслужб.Плохо если не сможем поддержать людьми и вооружением ополченцев, без них нам придется вступать в прямую конфронтацию с украми на наших границах.Да и людей жалко,настоящие патриоты, такими людьми не разбрасываются.
    86. Cruyff
      0
      22 July 2014 14: 17
      Ветеранов Третьей Мировой не будет.
    87. 0
      22 July 2014 14: 22
      хочешь мира - готовься к войне да побыстрее, а то опять не успеем как в 41-м. думаете враг не нападёт? побоится красной кнопки? Да мы сами её нажать побоимся. а будет кому воевать то? мы вообще способны на это . судя по Донбассу один воюет - тысяча сундук стережёт .вот кем мы стали- колорадами!
    88. +1
      22 July 2014 14: 37
      The first New Russia originated two and a half centuries ago thanks to the Serbs. In the middle of the XVIII century, Russia, in an effort to strengthen its borders in the lands of the current Donbass, invited the Balkan Slavs to develop them. Imperial Decree of 11 January 1752, he was granted land at the junction of the future Luhansk and Donetsk region, called New Serbia.
      Almost simultaneously, the soldiers of the Serbian hussar regiments moved to these lands and the territory of the present Kirovograd region of Ukraine, taking Russian citizenship, commanded by Jovan (Ivan) Shevich and Raiko Preradovich. They settled between the rivers Lugan and Bakhmut (Bakhmutka), on the southern bank of the Seversky Donets: the Preradovich regiment - to the west, at the confluence of the Donets and Bakhmutki, the Shevich regiment - to the east, on the border with the Don Cossack region.
      Serbian hussars here formed a special autonomous region, subordinated directly to the Senate and the Military Collegium of the Russian Empire. This area is called Slavyanoserbia. The city of Bakhmut became the common administrative center of Slavic Serbia and New Serbia. General S. Pishevich, who arrived in Slavyanoserbiya in 1754, testified: “The land, as usual, hardened, was wild, and it could be that it was untreated from the creation of light, and lay in all ancient ages without any benefit in vain and without people ... in the forests there are many wild vegetables, apples and pears, and you can also find them in other places and wild grapevines. ”
      New Serbia, Zaporizhzhya Sich and Slavyanoserbia stretched out in a single line, from the west to the east of the Northern Black Sea region, significantly strengthening Russia's position here. The flow of Balkan Slavs who arrived here, former subjects of Austria-Hungary, who wanted to go to the Russian service, did not weaken.
      In the south, the Serbian hussars launched active operations against the original enemies of the Slavic Ottomans, preparing, thanks to the intelligence service well-established by Colonel Croat Croat, to capture such powerful Turkish fortresses as Ochakov and Bender and at the same time Russian colonization of the future Odessa, Kherson and Nikolaev regions.
      In the west, the hussars and people of Horvat under his direct leadership launched a real guerrilla war against the Polish pansy of the first Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. Thanks to them, a great many Ukrainian and Belarusian peasants acquired a new homeland in the Donbas, having fled from serfdom and the Polish whip to New Serbia. Here they were accepted as brothers, as a result of which “wild, and it may be that from the creation of light untreated”, the land began to be rapidly populated by people. And then, in the middle of the 18th century, New Serbia and Slavic Serbia became part of the first Novorossia, which later became one of the provinces of the Russian Empire.
      Сербские гусары и их потомки оставили заметный след в летописи военной славы России. В 1760 году, в ходе Семилетней войны, два эскадрона славяносербских гусар, представлявшие, соответственно, полки Шевича и Прерадовича, принимали участие во взятии русской армией Берлина. Один из потомков блестящего разведчика, чья агентура, быстро освоившаяся в неприступных турецких и польских крепостях, внесла свою лепту в будущие успехи Потёмкина, Румянцева и Суворова, генерал Дмитрий Хорват, знаменитый управляющий КВЖД, до последних дней не забывал, что он потомок сербских дворян, еще при Екатерине II поселившихся в Херсонской губернии. Подобно предку до последних дней остался верен присяге, данной России, генерал-майор Георгий Иванович Шевич (1871-1966) – командир элитного лейб-гвардии Гусарского Его Величества полка
      In memory of the martial brotherhood of Slavs in the central part of the city of Slavyanoserbsk (Lugansk region), in the Bratertstvo square, in front of the building of the local history museum, a monument of Friendship of Slavic peoples is depicted, depicting the Ukrainian and Russian Cossacks and the Serbian hussars, symbolizing the founders of Slavyanoserbiya , near - the coat of arms of the city of Slavyanoserbsk).
    89. +1
      22 July 2014 14: 38
      Two and a half centuries ago, the Serbian hussars defended the interfluve of the Lugani and Donets and the Russian frontiers from enemies from the south and the west. Today, their compatriots are once again shoulder to shoulder with the Donbass militias helping to bring order to the Serbs native land, clearing it from the Nazis. The Serbian people remember how the predecessors of the current Nazis killed their compatriots - women, children, the elderly - in the ranks of the remnants of the SS division "Galicia". This division was shattered by Soviet soldiers in the first battle, after which it was hastily re-formed by the Nazis and transferred to the Balkans. There she was used in the bloodiest and cruellest actions against the civilian population and the Yugoslav partisans. The Fascist-Bandera warriors who completed this formation turned out to be bad warriors, but good flayer who left a bloody mark on the land of Serbia.
      Including therefore, the first of the foreign volunteers to take an active part in the defense of the Crimea and Sevastopol took the fighters of the Balkan Inter Brigade, named after the legendary hussar of the Slavic Serbia “Jovan Shevich”.
      Today, the Slavic squad “Jovan Shevic”, which has been significantly replenished by volunteers, already has 285 fighters, most of whom are natives of Serbia. All of them are fighting on the Lugansk land, which two and a half centuries ago were also defended by the ancestors of the Serbian warriors. In a short time, the Serbs have already proven themselves as snipers and grenade throwers.
      In the middle of July, the fighters of the squad for more than 12 hours fought in full encirclement against the many superior forces. The warriors of “Shevich” not only managed to break through to their own under heavy artillery fire, but they did not lose a single person!
      The eldest of the Serbian warriors, 38, the summer commander of the Prince Lazar squad, Bratislav Zivkovic (pictured), who fought against the Nazis in 1990 in the Balkans, answers the question why he decided to come to the Donbass like this: “Because the Russians and Serbs brothers. We know, as they say. Serbia is a small Russia, and Russia is a large Serbia. Russians always helped us, came to us when it was especially difficult. Now it's our turn. ”
      When someone in Serbia tried to threaten his fellow citizens, who had gone to fight in Novorossia, with prison, the Serbian volunteers responded: “We will never throw this land to the destruction of the West. It was the same with our country. We will never allow more blood here. ”
    90. 0
      22 July 2014 14: 40
      21 век... Найдите отличия....
    91. +1
      22 July 2014 14: 44
      Partial mobilization has been announced in United Ukraine. For Odessa, the Ministry of Defense gave a plan of 4500 "meat". In the training camps, recruits are openly delighted - go to the Crimea.

      Besides...

      In the south of Ukraine, the restoration of three former military airfields began: in
      Martynovka of the Nikolaev area, and also in Buyalyk and Chervonoglinsky in
      Odessa region.

      На данный момент восстанавливаются взлётно-посадочные полосы этих
      аэродромов — там будет современное монолитное бетонное покрытие
      производства компании Dyckerhoff.

      Зачем нищей стране, у которой нет денег даже на социалку, восставливать военные аэродромы? Всё равно своей авиации у единоУкраины осталось немного. Да и очень дорогое удовольствие содержать столько самолётов, что понадобились дополнительные аэродромы.

      Всё это для НАТО. Для натовских "ястребов".

      Порошенко и Коломойский понимают, что единственный шанс им остаться в живых - это война с Россией. Выполнить заказ заокеанских друзей - втянуть Россию в войну. И всё равно, сколько погибнет одураченных украинцев. Сынуля Порошенко далеко - в мирной Европе. А умирать будут простые парни.

      Цель удара уже выбрана. Напасть на Россию на севере - это прямая агрессия. А вот Крым... Мировому сообшеству это будет подано, как "возвращение украинского Крыма". Киев не беспокоит, что крымчане откровенно ненавидят единоУкраину - особенно после того, что укронацисты устроили на Востоке. А восторженных свидомых единоукраинцев не волнует, сколько погибнет людей в Крыму - они наоборот будут ликовать, когда начнут погибать крымчане, мол, не надо было отказываться от счастья быть свидомым единоукраинцем.

      Если свидомые укропатриоты нападут на Крым, то их сотрут в порошок в течение суток. Если не раньше. Но... Это станет началом войны, которая так нужна США, чтобы остаться лидером и спасти гибнущую экономику.

      Началом большой войны.

      World.

      И дай Бог, чтобы без ТЯО или чего посерьёзней.

      Dmitry Dzygovbrodsky
    92. Betelgeuse
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      22 July 2014 14: 59
      Чем больше читаю новости, статьи, и разные други ресурсы(новости, во всяком случаи наши, я принципиально не смотрю), тем больше удивляюсь как много людей у нас,прямо таки горят желанием решить проблемы США, за счет своей собственной страны! И почему то решили, что корень всех их бед лежит или на Юго-Востоке, в ДНР и ЛНР или в России. fool Как там? Остановите глобус я сойду?..
    93. -3
      22 July 2014 15: 46
      Путин: Военная угроза суверенитету и целостности России отсутствует.
      Ну что ж ... Ему виднее...Значит, всё спокойно...
      1. -2
        22 July 2014 16: 28
        да я сам с этого вот блеяния Вовы охренел:

        http://warfiles.ru/show-64511-putin-pryamoy-voennoy-ugrozy-rossii-i-ee-territori
        alnoy-celostnosti-na-segodnya-net.html
        Путин сдулся. А может и всегда был сдутым. Может были какие силы в России, для которых понятие Честь и Вера не были пустым звуком. Но их больше по ходу не стало.
        Теперь вопрос- что нам дальше делать?
        Верить что Вова все знает теперь бесмыссленно. Я сейчас в Севастополе. Народ тут очень обозлился. В других местах у народа тоже закипеда праведная злость.
        Нам, неравнодушным, надо объединить пару миллионов человек вокруг себя. И тогда мы вернем России суверинитет. И элитой у нас станут такие как Стрелков, Мозговой, Бородай, комбат Солнечников и другие герои. А всю мразоту выметем поганой метлой.
        Да, я не сторонник революций. НО 1612Й ГОД тоже на ум упорно лезет.
        1. 0
          22 July 2014 16: 45
          Quote: Magadan
          Теперь вопрос- что нам дальше делать?

          Знаете, есть такая фраза: "Политика-грязное дело!"
          Этим сказано всё!!!
        2. kompotnenado
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          22 July 2014 19: 52
          Диванный хохлобоец?
      2. 0
        22 July 2014 20: 59
        Quote: Yapet100
        Путин: Военная угроза суверенитету и целостности России отсутствует.
        Ну что ж ... Ему виднее...Значит, всё спокойно...

        )))))) СМЕЮСЬ))))) Вот и минусы появились))))
        Я же грю, что всё спокойно!)))) Или минусовщики не согласны со словами В. Путина?!?!
    94. +2
      22 July 2014 16: 09
      блин, какая очередная бредятина!
      Стоило писать разводить это словоблудие, чтобы я его прям сейчас убил одним простым вопросом:
      ТЫ РЕАЛЬНО ВЕРИШЬ, ЧТО НАТО ПОЙДЕТ НА НАС ЯДЕРНОЙ ВОЙНОЙ?
      Какая на хрен 3я мировая?
      Вот уж точно гребаная вшивая интеллигенция! Хвилософы и АНАЛлитики! Реально на нас попрет НАТО, чтобы огрестись ядреной бомбой?!
      Какое на фиг сотношение 60 к 1?
      Да по вашим раскладам надо вообще всем руки вверх, задний проход навазелинить и идти массово сдаваться гей-ропейцам!
      Вы, которые про "лишь-бы-не-было-войны" позорите Россию. Позорите наших предков! Суворов сильно там соотношение сил подсчитывал? А Невский? А Ушаков?! Гнилые позорники. Потаскушки золотого тельца!
      Россия встанет. Да, нас мало, которые будут бороться за Честь и за ПРавду. Но мы - победим. Потому что вы - тупое, сцыкливое стадо!
    95. +2
      22 July 2014 16: 57
      А какие рода войск способны ввести на Украину натовцы? До какой степени они боеспособны и морально готовы подстовлятся под пули? Это что вам ые хохлы что ли? Им мозги как бандерлогам не промывали и булки на площадях не раздовали. Гейропцы хоть и жопошники но в голову еще и мысли разные берут. А из хохла вояка как из говна пуля. Или они не понимают, что если они к нам вгости то и мы можем к ним. На Крым попрут? Так это только в маштабе провокаций . Тут уже надо нашим службам быть на чеку. И мне не понятно, даже если им подгонят америсосы оружие и все остальное, оно что само будет хохловояк учить воевать? Будут и инструкторы и комондирский состав, будут и трупы и захваченная техника и так же сбитые фантомы и хорнеты с еврофайторами. Я считаю что, отношения порождают отношения, а если с нами подло обходятся то можно и в ответ не заметно дать по яйцам-и больно и унизительно. Сомневаюсь на счет ввода натовского контенгента, будут разводить пердежный пар и топать ногами. И все же мне не дает покоя: о чем молчит красный дракон?
    96. amp
      amp
      0
      22 July 2014 16: 59
      поставил минус. сравнение с первой мировой некоректно. во время 1 мировой у россии не было ядерного оружия. я бы посмотрел, как австрия и германия объявили бы тогда войну россии, если бы знали, что русские в любой момент могут стереть их с лица земле. ни одна страна нато не пошлет свои войска воевать с россией. это просто аксиома. поэтому такие статьи - это просто пропаганда в интересах украинских нацистов.
    97. 0
      22 July 2014 17: 12
      О навернул.
      Одно ясно.
      Введет войска - плохо.
      Не введет войска, то же плохо.
      Победят повстанцы - плохо.
      Проиграют, опять плохо.
      Так где ж, едрена вошь нам хорошо?
    98. Kostya pedestrian
      0
      22 July 2014 17: 37
      ....и Россия победит. Если поставит на ВМФ. Всё же ВМФ выполняет функции ведения боевых действий далеко от самой страны, что, гораздо выгоднее, чем жечь дом соседа - может перекинуться.

      Если у монеты 2 стороны. То у олимпийской медали Сочи - песочные часы, либо поставить на наши крейсерские орудия, либо каска эсэсовского паратрупера на голову опустится.

      Может Нью Йорку сообщить, там то же наши ребята. Им будет интересно про анализировать следующте совпадения как: Юж. Авст имеет логотип дверь, а так же лаб по потологии имеет название Дурвич, что полностью обслуживается тойотами, про Скорценни многие знают. Вот что тут делает яценюк (Як-9 валью?)?

      ША доу. Хэллоу дау!
    99. +1
      22 July 2014 17: 52
      Поставил минус.Очень спорная статься.НАТО не будет воевать из за Украины с Россией.Если Россия введет войска она потеряет в экономическом плане,из за самой войны,но в большей степени,из за того,что ЕС придется ввести санкции,что пошатнет экономику и России,и самой ЕС.А Фашингтон будет в 2ном выйгрыше,ослабив и Россию и ЕС одновременно.Война между хохляндией и Россией ни к чему.Надо вырвать корень этой проблемы(и не только этой),вырвать корень фашингтона,экономически вырвать,чтоб им было не до внешней политики.
    100. 0
      22 July 2014 17: 56
      Чтож война так война,русским не привыкать.Правда неохота её.Каждый век кто то да на Россию заводиться.Нужно подтянуть ЯО к берегам потенциальным англосаксонским странам.И сделать предложение от которого неоткажеться наглосакс. Их иначе не остановить. Соплижуйства дипломотические их только раззадоривают.Это как к Гитлеру в 1941 Сталинн стал обращаться давай погорим .Ты подожди.Не надо.А он долбит дальше. Так что только одна вещь в любой стратегии не жди себе проблему.Устрани её.

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