Very strange plane ...

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From the editors of KM.RU: History with the Malaysian "Boeing", the wreckage of which was discovered on the territory of Novorossiya, is no less mysterious than the one that happened to his brother, who disappeared in the spring of this year and has not yet been found. Even the ubiquitous USA, spying everywhere and behind everyone, still have not given a clear answer even to the simple question “whose missile”, because, as political analyst Vitaly Tretyakov rightly noted, “if (the United States) had proof that they were militiamen , should have already presented them. ”

But there is no evidence, and this gives rise to more and more new versions, including the most seemingly incredible ones. Nevertheless, they have the right to life, and our journalistic duty is to acquaint you with them, dear readers.

One of these versions, published on the site VGILJOURNAL, we bring to your attention.

This is perhaps the most incredible version of the tragedy with the Malaysian "Boeing". And, nevertheless, it is quite logical and, as a version, can take place. Too many oddities in this story ...

The Washington Post pointed out the loss of communication with Boeing:

Very strange plane ...


In the commentary under the article in WP, the user under the nickname OKFine rightly notes that there is some oddity in the fact that the US has early detection systems for satellite launch systems that can accurately determine the launch site of the missile with an error of less than a kilometer, and provide this information during 1-5 minutes. “Something is wrong here,” sums up the commentator.

My personal version (Elena Rychkova), as a journalist, based on what I managed to find on the Internet.

Apparently, the plane is NOT ALL PRESENT, and the whole tragedy is a performance, like the demolition of the towers in New York on September 11.

1. In March, a plane of Malaysian airlines was hijacked, which allegedly completely and completely disappeared. In fact, he was overtaken by an American military base, Diego Garcia.

2. Then he was transported to Holland. On the right day and time, he flew to Malaysia. Inside were not living people, but corpses. The aircraft was driven not by real pilots, but by autopilot. Or take off (difficult procedure) made live pilots who jumped in advance by parachute. Then the plane flew automatically.

It was blown up in the right place (perhaps, even without a ground-to-air rocket, but simply laying explosives in it, the trail of the CIA of the United States, like 11 September).

3. The passports are all new - and this is on a burnt-down and collapsed plane (the same situation on September 11 is remembered - the buildings are sprayed into powder, but the whole clean passports of the hijackers are found - again the handwriting of the CIA). That is, there was a VBRO passports.

4. The militia speak of a strange corpse smell that comes from corpses, as if they were stale. And so they know what fresh corpses are. So, someone else’s corpses were laid on the plane, which had already begun to decompose.

5. Notice, relatives do not show anyone specifically - ostensibly to protect them from the curious press.

6. The numbers of the two planes are almost identical and differ on the 1 letter - O and D:

- The flight number of the flight MH370, missing in March - 9M-MRO.

- The flight number of the flight MH17, which “fell” yesterday - 9M-MRD.

7. On Facebook, all the allegedly dead passengers (the names were taken on passports, which was already shown) on ONE day (April 21, that is, after the hijacking of the liner in March), created a Facebook page. And there is nothing posted.

8. The goal of the CIA operation is to blame Russia for everything and start a big war against it.

9. Since even I am talking about it now (a simple viewer), it means that the one who needs (the Russian special services) has long understood and acted. This means that the result for those who arranged this “catastrophe” is unsuccessful, and soon everything will become clear with very negative consequences for the organizers.

So, here are the materials that led me to these conclusions.

A / A bit of conspiracy: strange corpses, passports with holes and onboard Boeing numbers.

I do not want to comment, much less develop the subject of the conspiracy. Just for information. Interview militia with crash site:



Further. Everyone, without exception, spoke and noticed very strange passports. Absolutely zero, as if issued recently. Photo and video is enough. For example, here:



And what is this Dutch passport with holes? This is so in the Netherlands extinguish invalid passports. Why did these passports turn out to be passengers of this ill-fated Boeing?



However, this does not prevent stupid dill shouting that these are bullet holes or something like this ...



Again. I do not draw any conclusions and in general against such versions. But here is another fact.



And so: Onboard number of flight MH370, missing in March - 9M-MRO. The board number of the MH17 flight that “fell” yesterday was 9M-MRD. Just such a coincidence. Again, I don’t want to go into the depths of that wreck, but it is still not disclosed. Aircraft not found. Not found a single fragment, which is nonsense in general. But stellar-striped ears are clearly visible. My opinion is that all this is a coincidence. But, of course, very much ... interesting, I do not even know which word to choose. But judging by the reaction of the State Department and the European Commission, something went wrong with them. And about this "something" we already know. Like (probably) in the case of the Kursk submarine, the topic is likely to be closed so that the philistine pattern does not crack. For this, the Americans will press priest in Ukraine. As an option. Just reasoning. (source).

B / From comments in the same place:

Mikhail Podgorny:

Very curious. When journalists showed passports in a U-turn, there were clearly visible data of passengers. Users of foreign forums were not too lazy and conducted their own mini-investigation, during which it was found that people whose passports were shown by journalists, "really exist" - there are their profiles on Facebook. But - attention! - the profiles of these seemingly completely independent people were registered at one time: April 21 of the 2014 year.

All of these profiles are similar in that there is nothing on these pages except for photos uploaded on the day of registration. Also, these users have neither friends, nor any publications, nor marks about the pages they like - absolutely nothing! Pages are empty. According to our version, these personalities do not exist in nature, names are invented, photographs are taken from nowhere, and Facebook for some unseemly purposes creates a whole database of such profiles. Facebook is known to be the brainchild of the CIA.

Minor point: the books and bags lay separately, untouched by the flame, as if only from a store. From this it follows that they, like passports, were thrown into place after the disaster.

At any plane crash, the first thing we see on our television screens is not the crash site, but the relatives of the victims, many of whom have not yet managed to leave the airport after seeing off. Around the clock, for several days, the viewer watches the reports on how psychologists work with relatives of the victims, how they interview psychologists and relatives of the victims.

What do we see in this case? Since the tragedy, almost a day has passed, but not a single television channel of the world has shown us the relatives of the victims of the disaster. You will not find photos of these relatives on any portal on the Internet; Also, you will not find a single interview with relatives. Nowhere on the Internet can you find hysteria about this tragedy, which would be natural in such a situation. On the Dutch sites, peace and quiet, and God's grace - to the materials about the catastrophe a meager number of comments, which are distinguished by perfect coldness and detachment. (source)
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  1. +23
    21 July 2014 05: 32
    the article is on the verge of fiction, but has the right to exist ... hi now further: the next provocation will not keep you waiting, the pravoseki again banged one of the representatives of the OSCE experts or Malaysia, the shop, on the pretext of the inability to ensure the commission’s safety, will immediately collapse, everything will fall to the militias and Russia one more time later, and happiness dill cover the tracks completely ...
    1. +20
      21 July 2014 05: 50
      Yes, an interesting fantasy, we love it since childhood, and yet the result for today is the same - the provocation of "ukrosha" sticks, very dirty and crookedly cooked up, and therefore can go sideways.

      Here is an interesting article on the IMC:

      Vladimir Putin has powerful evidence reflecting the culprit of the crash of the Boeing. The fact is that Russia is armed with a powerful and perfect structure for controlling land, air and outer space. It is called the “Missile Attack Warning System” (SPRN) and allows the Russian military in real time to track any aircraft in most of the northern hemisphere of the planet and, naturally, throughout Europe.

      SPRN operators strictly control the routes of each aircraft, and with the most accurate fixation of its trajectory from the place of launch (take-off) to the point of landing, undermining or falling.

      The effectiveness of this system has been confirmed several times.

      Example: in September last year, at the time of the most acute phase of the conflict around Syria, NATO and Israel tried to test the Lashar al-Assad air defense system "for lice", and at the same time the combat readiness of the Russian squadron on duty in the Mediterranean Sea.

      The new-generation Voronezh-DM radar station located in Armavir recorded and tracked the entire NATO combination.

      Probably because of the United States and NATO countries, they finally abandoned a direct military attack on Syria.

      Of course, data from the Russian SPRN at any time can be received by the Supreme Commander-in-Chief Vladimir Putin.

      It was he who made a serious statement. Putin said the cause of the crash was a "crime." He considers the country in whose territory the crash occurred, that is, Ukraine, to be a different country.

      Putin will provide evidence of his statement, enlisting the help of military departments in the investigation of this crime. He promised to do everything possible so that the truth about what happened became the property of both our public, and the public of Ukraine, and the whole world.

      The President of the Russian Federation and the most influential politician in the world will never allow himself to use the words “crime” and “guilty party” without any iron foundations.

      I note that the United States has a space control system similar to the Russian SPRN. American satellites and radars installed in Europe also record everything that flies, walks and creeps. And representatives of American intelligence have already stated that they recorded the launch of a ground-to-air missile at the Malaysian Boeing, but did not specify the launch site. Having said that "they could not determine him." This is not at all like the truth. Perhaps the Americans do not want to convey to the public the launch site of the rocket ...

      Another important point: an hour after the fall of the Boeing, Vladimir Putin called Barack Obama, and for a long time the presidents had a discussion. After that, according to unofficial information, the US and the EU agreed to consider the crash of the Malaysian flight MH17 “an accident”. It has already become known that the US President will hold a meeting with the National Security Council on Friday, which will provide him with everything that is known about the disaster. At the same time, CNN reports that for fear of escalating tensions in Ukraine, the United States will try to be “extremely cautious in its conclusions.”

      In a conversation with Obama, Putin emphasized that Russia has accurately recorded - who, where and what shot. And Russia is ready to provide all this data to the public of the whole world, and to document it. Moreover, Russia is confident that America has completely similar data.
      1. +4
        21 July 2014 08: 11
        On Sunday, I met with one of his comrades, he serves as a contractor in the military air defense. I asked him about Boeing - he says that everything should be visible on objective control.
        1. +4
          21 July 2014 08: 32
          Quote: ale-x
          On Sunday, I met with one of his comrades, he serves as a contractor in the military air defense. I asked him about Boeing - he says that everything should be visible on objective control.

          -----------------------------
          Of course you can see ... And then we have a sea of ​​air defense specialists in our network, on Censor.net one person dropped a photo of the Buk cockpit (there is a target bearing monitor and all the rest of the space in toggle switches and buttons) with the phrase "militia captured" "And what's next?" ... But Svidomo is not a proof, they still do not calm down, everyone sings one song "Russia flunked the Malaysian Boeing" ...
        2. +2
          21 July 2014 08: 33
          And who did this objective control? It is carried out when it is necessary to confirm the launch and defeat. And here everything is exactly the opposite - to hide the fire and defeat. At the command post, the Buk-M1 has recording and documenting equipment, where information from combat operations is recorded, including missile launch and real-time voice communications. But ... only if this equipment was turned on before work. Surely the Ukrainians "forgot" to turn it on, and even if they turned it on, they could not find it. One hope is only for our reconnaissance radars of the new fleet, where there is equipment for documenting combat work and for satellite reconnaissance.
          1. +1
            21 July 2014 08: 46
            He was just talking about the control data of the Russian air defense units. And the Ukrainians, of course, will be lost, if anyone led them at all.
          2. s1н7т
            +2
            21 July 2014 09: 26
            Quote: figter
            One hope only for our reconnaissance radars of the new fleet, where there is equipment for documenting combat work

            So, even in prehistoric times, we had something like FKP "Phase" everywhere, which shot the radar screen every 2 minutes. "in the machine". Right now, probably, there are flash drives around, but they write continuously.
            1. +2
              21 July 2014 11: 15
              Quote: c1n7
              So, even in prehistoric times, we had something like FKP "Phase" everywhere, which shot the radar screen every 2 minutes. "in the machine". Right now, probably, there are flash drives around, but they write continuously.

              _____________________________
              We had a household tape recorder under objective control, I wouldn't lie, but like "Mayak-205", an objective control mechanic was constantly running around with these reel-reels from "Svema" and "Tasma" companies ... hi
              1. s1н7т
                +1
                21 July 2014 12: 53
                hi , comrade Marshal! Magician - he is only a sound, I mean the screen with all the marks on it. And what was this OK? For example, in gr. OK, of the magicians there were only digital ones (probably, because they were downloaded from them directly to the computer - this is the 82nd year, GOK 67 IBAP) of the "Ray" type.
                1. +2
                  21 July 2014 17: 51
                  Quote: c1n7
                  , comrade Marshal! Magician - he is only a sound, I mean the screen with all the marks on it. And what was this OK? For example, in gr. OK, of the magicians there were only digital ones (probably, because they were downloaded from them directly to the computer - this is the 82nd year, GOK 67 IBAP) of the "Ray" type.

                  ________________________
                  I understood that you are talking about the screen ... But what do you want from the ZAS mechanic, who is sticking out in the control room with the ancient Elbrus? I only have a set of encryption equipment, a ZAS switch and that's it ... I don't know what is there and what media is still written by objective control ... Maybe there were floppy disks, at the command post, the 286th computer was, I remember ... Part and now it works, and with the same name like ... military unit 39872, Minsk ... And I served in 1989 ...
                  PS In general, you can write anything you like on magnetic tape ... Our first personal PCs on an MK-60 type tape cassette worked as a carrier, as I remember now ...
                  1. s1н7т
                    0
                    23 July 2014 22: 30
                    Quote: Altona
                    with the ancient "Elbrus"

                    We, it turns out, are colleagues in Elbrus, although the difference is at 8 years old! drinks In Novoselitsy they said: He who does not perish in Novoselitsy is not afraid of Buchenwald! laughing It was just late admission, me - to OK, then to the Intelligence Department, then - to PDS. About the magician. I do not argue with the tape. Our "Rays" wrote 165 tracks on it, if sclerosis does not lie. Good luck, colleague! drinks
        3. +2
          21 July 2014 20: 30
          Yes, Russia, whatever it wants now, can say and prove anyway "terpily" appointing. Until we put the missiles in Cuba and they will interfere with shit. The world respects force, not mumbles about objective control.
          Recognized the DNI, provided assistance at the state level? No, we are afraid that the world community will say. Ukrainians are not afraid and do what they want and no one decree to them.
      2. 0
        21 July 2014 08: 50
        The article, of course, is complete nonsense. Do not be like UkroSMI and various other Psaks.
        Our strength is in truth and if we begin to bear the foal we will lose strength.
    2. +2
      21 July 2014 06: 35
      Option and very likely.
      1. ABV
        0
        21 July 2014 14: 12
        Why so many "imoroi"? A huge number of unnecessary gestures, a huge number of performers ... something can leak out .... it is easier to shoot down a real plane, it is much easier and calmer, and there are much fewer people in the "topic" ...
        Amer 11 thousand was not a pity in 2011, and here even more so, 300 Europeans. for them these are not numbers ...
    3. +1
      21 July 2014 06: 35
      And NATO troops will be introduced to protect the investigation
      1. +6
        21 July 2014 06: 51
        Quote: boboss
        And NATO troops will be introduced to protect the investigation

        Rather, they will send inspectors to the crash site, and the Ukrainian army, with the help of the Smerch and Uragan missile launchers, will mix these inspectors with the ground, aircraft wreckage and the remaining corpses. Guess who will be charged with the missile strike later?
    4. 0
      21 July 2014 06: 46
      Yes, most likely they will arrange provocations on the new one.
    5. +1
      21 July 2014 08: 57
      Recently, you’re already ceasing to be surprised at anything, everything is possible in life, now, in the USA and Russia, the stakes have been very high, the loss is death, so this version has the right to life!
    6. +3
      21 July 2014 10: 37
      Quote: Volka
      the article is on the verge of fiction, but has the right to exist ...

      Not at all, the article is very believable, remember the flight Korean Air 007, KAL007 , allegedly shot down by the USSR Air Force in 1983. Then the bodies were not found, only luggage and documents, and the Japanese reported that the liner was on their radar after the "downing". So the "borscht" is old, but with new "spices". In 1983, the Americans went wild, and now they have apparently made conclusions and made adjustments. Such are the things. With respect.
    7. +1
      21 July 2014 10: 47
      Why is it fantastic?
      There are facts that are trying to "silence".
      The main thing of Russia is not to hide the language in one place!
      Tired of these smooth "diplomatic" responses from our rulers.

      You are accused of all sins by your face, and you are a diplomat, like pink Alhen.
      1. 0
        21 July 2014 12: 17
        But judging by the reaction of the State Department and the European Commission, something went wrong there.

        I even dare to suggest what went wrong. The Boeing was supposed to crash in Russia, but dill was broken as always, and there wasn’t enough brains to guess that a scattered plane couldn’t fall as far as a whole.
        By the way, in this version there is one inconsistency that is completely illogical - this is a way to get an airplane. It seems to me that it is easier to get it through front Tsereushny firms than to arrange for the disappearance of a real cruise line.
  2. DPZ
    +1
    21 July 2014 05: 33
    the play, like the demolition of towers in New York on September 11th.
    the performance is when you were "killed", you fell, lay down, stood up, bowed to the applause of the audience and left. but the towers did not rise, and the people in them at the time of the tragedy did not rise either! so bad turn of words ...
    1. +6
      21 July 2014 05: 40
      Quote: DPZ
      people in them at the time of the tragedy also did not rise

      the question is very controversial! there were fewer corpses in the ruins of the towers than there should be ... where did they go? or did the right people know? a dark history like with a Boeing ...
      1. koshh
        +3
        21 July 2014 08: 30
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        the question is very controversial! there were fewer corpses in the ruins of the towers than there should be ... where did they go?


        And guess at one time what nationality was practically absent at the time of the attack in the towers.
      2. koshh
        0
        21 July 2014 10: 34
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        the question is very controversial! there were fewer corpses in the ruins of the towers than there should be ... where did they go?


        And guess at one time what nationality was practically absent at the time of the attack in the towers.
    2. +6
      21 July 2014 05: 50
      In principle, here is another point of view.
    3. +5
      21 July 2014 06: 11
      Until September 11, I remember this mysticism: in the old Word, a cat. was made much earlier than zero, you enter the flight number of the plane that first crashed into the tower and when you change the font to symbols, the icons depicting the plane, the twin towers and the skull with bones came out fellow
    4. 0
      21 July 2014 08: 11
      Quote: DPZ
      so a bad turn of words ...

      War is also not a toy, but we use the concepts of win - lose.
  3. +2
    21 July 2014 05: 35
    Yesterday they talked about it ... militia why then do not make noise? they also help to collect and load the bodies, warring men are probably able to distinguish between fresh and used bodies. If this is a statement, it is urgent to do it publicly! Otherwise, then there is no body, there’s nothing!
  4. DPZ
    +1
    21 July 2014 05: 37
    how many days have passed since the fall, and things are still there. and nobody picks up the boxes and they don’t give us true information. such frank spit on people is inexplicable. so you can naughty on any aircraft and keep silent. and what, over time, the peak of tension in society will come to naught, and there the next airplane is already flying up!
    1. +1
      21 July 2014 05: 53
      Quote: DPZ
      how many days have passed since the fall, and things are still there. and nobody picks up the boxes and they don’t give us true information. such frank spit on people is inexplicable.

      34 sq. Km-scatter area tells you anything? about 200 bodies have already been packed with the help of the militia ...
    2. +4
      21 July 2014 06: 20
      Quote: DPZ
      and nobody picks up the boxes and they don’t give us true information.

      Well then! They had already rushed from the Prosecutor General's Office and demanded to give the boxes to them. Only they were not given and sent ... Kiev insists that the boxes be given to them. And the militias do not give up - only they will give to the international organization.
      In addition, I would like to note that the militia and Strelkov immediately spoke about stale corpses. And the fact that in such a heat they spoil even more, it seems that the arrived representatives were deliberately not allowed into the place for three days, so that later nothing could be determined!
  5. +5
    21 July 2014 05: 41
    Interesting, but ...
    "- The side number of flight MH370, which disappeared in March, is 9M-MRO.
    - The side number of flight MH17 that "crashed" yesterday is 9M-MRD. "
    The numbers aren't just on the plane. There, each major node has its own number and you can find out by them the plane or not. But here the cards are in the hands of Malaysia itself. It is in her interest to find out what kind of "tricks" are taking place with her planes. And if the plane is THAT, then everything else takes place, and if not, then these two stories have nothing to do with each other. Is that indirect.
    1. +12
      21 July 2014 06: 07
      In March 1962 (on the eve of the Caribbean crisis), McNamara submitted proposals from the Joint Chiefs of Staff of the United States and the CIA on how to organize an invasion of the US army in Cuba using a large-scale covert operation (or, more simply, monstrous provocation).
      There were several scenarios, and among them number 8 was as follows:
      “We must create an incident that will convincingly demonstrate that a Cuban fighter attacked and shot down a charter civilian plane ... The flight direction should be chosen so that it passes through Cuba. Passengers should be presented with a group of college students on vacation to justify the need for a charter flight. At the American airbase Eglin AFB you need to take a civilian plane, which will be painted and look, with the same numbers as a real civilian plane belonging to a shell company registered near Miami, but actually owned by the CIA. At the appointed time, this double aircraft will replace a real civilian aircraft. This twin will be loaded with carefully selected passengers, which will be recorded for this fictitious flight under false names. The real passenger plane will be turned into a drone, which will be shot down. The take-off moments of the present and the twin will be synchronized so that they meet in the air south of Florida. From the place of their meeting, the double with the passengers will drop to the minimum height and go to the spare strip of the Eglin air base, where necessary measures will already be prepared for the evacuation of passengers and the repainting of the aircraft. Meanwhile, a real, but unmanned board will continue the registered flight. Directly over Cuba, the drone will broadcast on the radio "SOS, the plane is attacked by Cuban MIG fighters." This radio transmission will be interrupted by the destruction of the aircraft caused by the remote radio signal. "
      After that, the United States was about to attack Cuba. But they didn’t have time - Soviet nuclear missiles were discovered on Liberty Island ...
      The book of memoirs of the ex-minister of the harrow of the USA Robert McNamara.
  6. +4
    21 July 2014 05: 41
    Where are the relatives? Ne cry, ne vozmushajuza! All PRAVDA!
    1. +5
      21 July 2014 06: 03
      I also noticed this strange thing with relatives. I have 2 versions: either relatives are not yet up to date (missing), or passengers are orphans (290 orphans on the same plane?). So do not believe in conspiracy theology after that.
    2. +1
      21 July 2014 06: 22
      Quote: Elena
      Ne plachat, ne vozmushajuza!

      Already have indignant! One!!!

      Malaysians accused Kiev of lying and publishing false information. There were only 3 (three) children on the plane.

      Today there was a story about the Dutch family of a child who lost a child in this plane and their requirements for Putin to return their child. Here are the passenger data from www.malaysiaairlines.com/my/en/site/mh17.html
      1. 77bob1973
        +2
        21 July 2014 07: 59
        That's not all, there will still be problems with the number of corpses and the difference will be significant, in a hundred people.
  7. 0
    21 July 2014 05: 44
    It is a possible scenario. Mattresses are famous for such things.
  8. +2
    21 July 2014 05: 52
    Quote: Andrey Yurievich
    militia why not make a fuss then?


    You asked such an interesting question ...
    They - the militias - are being killed there, the army is marching on them, the war is going on, what other "noise", it would seem, is needed?
    But no - "everything is fine, beautiful marquise" ...

    Threat And Western civilization "noise" of war, as it were not an argument, there is a fascist method - these "Russians" in the east of the former Ukraine can be killed, but their own - in an airplane - as it were.
    ZYY That "noise" that the "enlightened" Western civilization would hear - what should it be and where should it sound?
    1. +2
      21 July 2014 05: 59
      in the fall zone, together with the OSCE, the militiamen collect the corpses and pack them into wagons, so there is no need to "kill them there."
  9. +6
    21 July 2014 05: 59
    I watched an interview a couple of days ago, I was in a hurry, so I looked with one eye, but one moment interested me. We interviewed two women in the Netherlands, at the departure airport of the liner, and that's what made me a little freaked out. When asked who was on this plane, they answered, literally, I don't remember, but the meaning is this. "It seems we had a relative on this plane, she was 30 or 31 years old, more likely 30."
  10. +1
    21 July 2014 05: 59
    Boeing accompanied a military plane. This is not taken into account by the author of the article.
  11. +6
    21 July 2014 06: 03
    The version is believable. The Korean Boeing shot down over Sakhalin was also very muddy: the corpses of the dead, shmurdyak, relatives. Crushers are repeated ..
  12. +1
    21 July 2014 06: 04
    The Russians do not have the fascist and sadistic inclinations that they are trying to attach to Russia and the DNR. Still recognized sooner or later. Then someone pokes his face in guano
  13. ded10041948
    +1
    21 July 2014 06: 09
    The fog in this story! First of all, eyewitness accounts and transcripts of the flight recorders are important. But not militias and not junta representatives should deal with these issues.
  14. +2
    21 July 2014 06: 11
    Most likely, certain circles of Malaysia are involved in this provocation, too slowly they behave. The states "quieted down" after the meeting between the GDP and Obama, apparently Putin has something that is very much feared in the United States. But nothing, it seems that our President is tired of the order of provocative activities CIA and US NSA and he is ready to share information with the world community! If the author of the article is right, then soon we will see the results, America will not necessarily "brand" the junta, but the attitude towards it will change (it will simply be thrown like a used tampon)! The coming week will put everything in its place! (it's not for nothing that the national bastards began to behave so actively in the battle zone)
  15. +2
    21 July 2014 06: 12
    I had this question: if the planes replaced and blew up the missing Boeing in March, then where did the Boeing that was supposed to fly on July 17.07.2014, XNUMX?
  16. -1
    21 July 2014 06: 22
    It would be strange if the American provocation rolled without a hitch! It’s painfully clumsy they have been working for the last decades, or big ears have grown, that stick out everywhere!
  17. 0
    21 July 2014 06: 26
    Ukraine cannot guarantee security for international experts who want to work at the crash site of the Malaysian Boeing, said at a briefing the Deputy Prime Minister of Ukraine, the head of the state commission to investigate the causes of the disaster, Vladimir Groysman.
    "We cannot provide security guarantees in the territory controlled by the militants," Groisman said.
    http://oko-planet.su/politik/newsday/249567-kiev-ne-garantiruet-bezopasnost-eksp
    ertam-na-meste-krusheniya-boeing.html
    zzzzzzzz
    You also consider this! If there is a sniper there, but the battles continue, then they can arrange another blame and blame the militias.
  18. bigELDAK
    0
    21 July 2014 06: 33
    The meaning of the version is laid out, it will be said by A. Borodai delayed from 3 days and already there will be no sense in looking for something there, figuring out what and how.
  19. +1
    21 July 2014 06: 35
    Obviously a ceremonial performance commissioned by the State Department ...
  20. 0
    21 July 2014 06: 39
    Yes, the main task of the ukrosh at the moment is to maximize the delay in publicizing the evidence ...
  21. ICT
    +1
    21 July 2014 06: 42
    Inside were not living people, but corpses.
    this can only be ascertained by anyone who has graduated from college with any kind of antidote
  22. 0
    21 July 2014 06: 46
    Another crazy version. Here are just simple questions - 1) Where to collect 298 corpses (80 children) and save them? 2) Why such a superoperation if an elementary forensic examination determines when and why a person died? 3) What about internationally famous people flying this flight? I don’t want to ask further.
    1. 0
      21 July 2014 07: 24
      Quote: Bayonet
      ) Where to collect 298 corpses (80 children) and save them?

      If the provocation was conceived in advance, then in the morgue you can store Oh very long. And Malaysia has already convicted Kiev of nonsense. There are no 60 children there !!! Three !!! And one seems to be Dutch!
      1. 0
        21 July 2014 12: 28
        Quote: Egoza
        in the morgue can be stored Oh very long

        We return to question number two.
      2. Dad Sasha
        0
        21 July 2014 16: 18
        Quote: Egoza
        in the morgue can be stored Oh very long

        sooooo long - is it 4 months? if only in a formaldehyde solution ...
  23. +1
    21 July 2014 07: 09
    An interesting article, an interesting version, and it has the right to life. If someone says that the version (about the previously stolen Boeing and corpses) is on the verge of fantasy, then I think that mattresses count on this. These guys are very sophisticated in their methods.
    Militias speak of a strange cadaverous smell that comes from corpses as if they were stale.

    I'm not a specialist, but I guess that any pathologist can easily determine how long the corpse has been a corpse.
    There is no doubt that this is the work of the gangster state of the United States.
  24. +1
    21 July 2014 07: 23
    well, even though the farce will be frustrated, but the USA will not stop it — we need to prepare for war — or they will sweep us
  25. +2
    21 July 2014 07: 26
    And I had a question about the number of children: at first it was stated that there were 80 children on board, then 3, and now there is silence about the children. And at the crash site, you did not pay attention to the number and condition of soft toys? And Kiev, which loudest demanded foreign experts, now takes time and does not send people to the crash site, although the Malaysians have already arrived.
  26. 0
    21 July 2014 07: 32
    I think that we will not be surprised at anything.
  27. 0
    21 July 2014 07: 55
    Quote: Bayonet
    Another crazy version. Here are just simple questions - 1) Where to collect 298 corpses (80 children) and save them? 2) Why such a superoperation if an elementary forensic examination determines when and why a person died? 3) What about internationally famous people flying this flight? I don’t want to ask further.

    ..An insignificant moment: books and bags lay separately, untouched by the flame, as if only from the store. From this it follows that they, like passports, were thrown into place after the disaster ....
    Who tossed? The territory is controlled by the authorities of the DPR.
    1. +1
      21 July 2014 12: 33
      Quote: turk
      books and bags lay separately, untouched by the flame,

      They lay, but certainly not where the debris burned. The plane was destroyed in the air and the scatter of debris and bodies is very large.
  28. +5
    21 July 2014 07: 59
    Quote: Volka
    article on the verge of fiction, but has the right to exist.

    Fantastic, this is when untrained Arabs "piloting" super-complex aircraft attack the twin towers, after which their undamaged passports are found in the clean burnt wreckage. Fantastic, this is when we are told that Petnagon allegedly also crashed into a Boeing, from which there are neither fragments nor corpses of dead passengers, and the hole in the building does not correspond to the one that is formed during the crash of such a large plane like this one. But it fits exactly into a cruise missile strike. Well, fantastic - this is the accusation of the USSR in the destruction of the Korean Boeing in 1983, which, after being attacked by our pilot Osipovich for another half hour, continued to fly with a damaged wing, after which the Americans finished it off.
    But this is not the main thing, the main thing is that out of almost 300 people who flew on this Boeing, NOT a SINGLE body was found! But they had to be there, fastened to the chairs, as to anchors, or surface if they had time to put on life jackets. During the entire search, a clump of hair and a hand in a sleeve and glove were photographed. All! Where are the passengers? After all, the fact that they died is for sure, but where are their bodies?
    Two years later, exactly the same Boeing-2 of the Indian airline exploded in the sky over the Atlantic at an altitude of 10 km. On the first day of the search, the bodies of 747 passengers were found, the next day 123 more and 8 months later, during deep-sea research - another one strapped to the seat.
    In 1988, the Challenger exploded with 7 astronauts on board at an altitude of about 15 km. From the ocean floor, 254 fragments of the spacecraft were lifted, 000% of the fragments of the cockpit and the bodies of all astronauts. And there is not a single passenger?
  29. 0
    21 July 2014 08: 00
    http://homegate.ru/user/weber/post/27796
    dill burned with beech ......
  30. 0
    21 July 2014 08: 04
    What happened to Boeing, according to the author, in general, this cannot be. Americans are not suicides. In the missing Boeing, most of the passengers were from China. Already China it will spin to the maximum extent. This will put on the brink of disaster all the plans of the United States in the Pacific.
  31. 0
    21 July 2014 08: 04
    Bloody performance.
  32. +1
    21 July 2014 08: 33
    Kiev and its owners are now categorically not profitable to engage in an objective investigation. It is now more profitable for them to "pour" the scene from the Grad and blame it on the militias. One thing is good that the traces were somehow fixed within the framework of the criminal case and the "boxes" are safe. And the latter is very fraught for Western directors of a bloody performance.
  33. +2
    21 July 2014 09: 00
    An article from Ren Tiwi or something, with Anna Chapman. the plane was on the radar. why didn’t the missile appear on the radar? It is interesting that the Spaniard reports that he saw planes on the locator, three minutes before the flight of the Boeing. Do we have all the locators broken? where are our locators? in the adjacent state there is a war. why ours do not track the airspace over Ukraine? rocket earth air is by no means small, it is tracked by locators. but no one saw her on locars; ours, apparently, the sky above our border does not control at all. about new passports. Passports shown are children's passports. most likely a passport, the children received just before the trip. and which of your children has a battered passport? About bloodless remains, there’s nothing to talk about. the disaster occurred at an altitude of 10 km. the human body flies this distance in more than a minute. vertical fall speed 180 m per second. in a prone position with arms spread about 100-120 m per second. skydivers say so. Well, think how much blood will be in the human remains of 10 kilometers that have flown. the smell of bodies, or rather torn bodies, with ruptures of the abdominal cavity is completely different than just the smell of the dead. Well, a mixture of feces, urine, charred remains, the smell is completely unbearable. and if someone else had liver cirrhosis then .... today in the news the correspondent said that there is a burning smell. not far from him lay bags of bodies. It seems to me that it was either a terrorist attack or an accident.
    1. 0
      22 July 2014 08: 33
      Yes, exactly, an accident ... Here is the real version.
  34. 0
    21 July 2014 09: 08
    The haplogroups of the crashed need to be determined. On the subject of their belonging to Holland. It would not have turned out that more than half of them belong to R1A.
    DNA recognition should be kept under control.
    And if these assumptions are confirmed, use the results of the analyzes to search for the missing.
    The numbers to kill, repaint, replace the units - it's a trifle. but you can’t crush genes with your finger ...
  35. RUSLAT
    +1
    21 July 2014 09: 17
    Quite a real version, and most importantly, it explains everything. If you watch the TV series "Sherlock" produced in Great Britain, you will see exactly the same situation with the plane of the dead. And, according to the film, the British intelligence operation was conducted by the order of the CIA. And, as they say, .... The tale is a lie, but it contains a hint .....
  36. dmb
    0
    21 July 2014 09: 29
    "Like flies here and there, rumors circulate in houses, and coarse-toothed old women carry them to minds." The author of the article differs from the old women only in age.
  37. +2
    21 July 2014 09: 41
    Well, that all at once attacked with shouts of "nonsense!" When the news showed the documents of the dead, I was amazed that the passports were new - not crumpled, without traces of active use (look at your documents), clean. And this after such a crash - explosion, blood and dirt. Honestly, I didn't even think about the right-handed plane in March at first. But somehow the details were right there. In the spring, I read an article where it was assumed that the Boeing that disappeared in March was hijacked to an American base. I thought it was more like a fiction. But now I don't think so.
  38. +2
    21 July 2014 10: 35
    I am afraid that no one will be interested in the truth about the death of this flight. All that was needed was an excuse, and the media controlled by the West would do the rest. Even if it turns out that Russian means of objective control confirms the launch of a rocket from the territory controlled by official Kiev during this time, the United States will fake its control data that would contradict this. And the media is playing on the United States, our data will be silent, and the American will inflate. Time is against us. And then they will agree that the militia could not bring down a beech due to lack of qualifications and will directly blame Russia. And what will happen next, I think everyone understands perfectly ... We are wasting time, and we are very late. In this series of provocations, you need to work ahead of the curve, and we are losing more and more pace.
  39. Seer
    0
    21 July 2014 12: 34
    Whatever the facts, the thing is stubborn! The corpses were already smelling like, part of the passports were full of holes and all new (he doesn’t seem new after the spirit of travel) and not a single sane report about sobbing relatives and grandparents losing consciousness. You will remember how much noise there was when this Boeing disappeared, crying and pain of relatives on all channels, and here there are only one stuffing of shit on the fan and not a single sobbing face. Obviously the story is VERY muddy ................
  40. 0
    21 July 2014 12: 51
    No matter how fantastic the version is, it has the right to be until an investigation is conducted.
  41. 0
    21 July 2014 13: 55
    If I’m not mistaken, then you can determine the plane from the wreckage. Each blade of the engine is identified for subsequent work on errors.
  42. 0
    21 July 2014 14: 33
    Take the trouble to explain who for what minus put me? I do not mind when on business, but here somehow it is not clear.
  43. +1
    21 July 2014 14: 36
    The MANPADS complex, due to its size and composition, is difficult to hide.
    The operation of the radar, its location, can be easily determined.
    Where did the militias get information about an airplane flying at an altitude of 10 m behind the clouds?
    Where are the skilled personnel from the calculation?
  44. -maestro-
    +1
    21 July 2014 15: 06
    Here's what came to mind after reading this article:
    if all this is true and the plane was "prepared" for a catastrophe, then the black boxes on it most likely will not be found and will be written off to the militia (they say it was stolen and not given back)

    or the information on them will also be "prepared" ...
  45. leh
    leh
    +1
    21 July 2014 19: 53
    Here's one more thing. Why are there no witnesses to the launch of the Buk rocket, since it was not launched in a deserted desert? Then the rocket leaves behind characteristic traces of the striking elements of the warhead and the remnants of the structure of the rocket itself, for which it will not be difficult for specialists to determine what they are dealing with. If we are talking about a prepared provocation, then in order to guarantee the destruction of a target at such a range, it is necessary (based on the performance characteristics) to launch at least 2 missiles. Either it is an aircraft cannon and it is easier to hit and traces are much more difficult to find, but a ground-based radar is also required to aim the aircraft at a target. But there may be much less witnesses to the crime.
  46. +1
    21 July 2014 20: 36
    All major airports in the world are equipped with video cameras. Is it really impossible to watch the video of registration and boarding at the airport of departure. You can even calculate how many people passed the registration, otherwise the problem is with the passengers.
    1. 0
      21 July 2014 22: 54
      Either the video is "lost", or you will be shown the "desired" video.
  47. 0
    21 July 2014 22: 52
    It is very strange that this version seems fantastic to many ... In my opinion, it is most likely.
  48. +1
    21 July 2014 23: 08
    If you think about it, the version is not so fantastic. And if this is true, then the necessary information has already been written on the black boxes, and the plane itself could have been prepared for a "correct" explosion in the air, in order to blame the militias and Russia for everything, and then introduce the "peacekeeping" Western contingent to destroy all residents of the DPR and LPR.
  49. +1
    22 July 2014 00: 26
    Quote: Volka
    the article is on the verge of fiction, but has the right to exist ... hi now further: the next provocation will not keep you waiting, the pravoseki again banged one of the representatives of the OSCE experts or Malaysia, the shop, on the pretext of the inability to ensure the commission’s safety, will immediately collapse, everything will fall to the militias and Russia one more time later, and happiness dill cover the tracks completely ...

    Yes, no fiction. This is the most plausible version. "If in the first act there is a gun on the wall (the missing Boeing in March), then in the second it will definitely shoot!"
  50. quzi2006
    0
    24 July 2014 08: 53
    there is still a moment why Poroshenko immediately after the disaster said that it was a terrorist attack? perhaps the CIA was afraid of information leakage and did not warn him? because Putin must have good intelligence in Ukraine! The CIA planned everything as 9/11, with so many jambs, they themselves sent a plane with corpses towards Russia to blow up Russia, and there the Ukrainians intercepted the stray plane in the hope that the Ukrainians would knock it down. reported and it is clear why the first words of Poroshenko that it was a terrorist attack and not the words that it was shot down by militias. this is a hunch! and I think the truth will not be told to us for sure Russia will bargain with the organizers because they have always done so for the first time to hide the United States and Russia by bargaining at the same time.
  51. quzi2006
    0
    24 July 2014 10: 18
    another point if the CIA would like to bring down a real salomet with the crew, the question is asked how to make a real plane with passengers shot down over territory controlled by militias or Russia? how to achieve this? the version with a pre-prepared aircraft is great! the Dutch would probably agree that they could put explosives on the plane at the airport where their citizens and the Dutch warned that there were already dead bodies and not yours! because the United States does not think that they are openly telling others, let's kill our citizens to achieve the goal! they probably do it more sophisticatedly

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