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In the parallel Universe ukROSMI: militias fire at themselves, Nalivaychenko "caught" Russian spotters of fire of the Buk complex

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Ukrainian security forces have put another city of New Russia on the bloody map of the punitive operation. This time, shelling and attacks by multiple rocket launchers are conducted in Severodonetsk. It is a city with a population of more than 100 thousand people, located a few kilometers from Lysychansk and Rubezhnoye.

In his repertoire ukroSMI. Agency UNN It came out with a material in which it is said that these “terrorists” (militia) fired at residential neighborhoods and schools of the city of Severodonetsk from Gradov and howitzers.

After some time, the same Ukrainian publications came out with materials in which there is no word about the use of the Grad systems, but there is “information” about shooting from an automatic grenade launcher. Yes ... the militia firing into themselves, while also attacking the residential areas of Severodonetsk. And the Ukrainian army only looks at it from the side and collects daisies ...

Locals say that several ammunition exploded in residential areas of the city, hitting the building of kindergarten №37 and school №16.

Adding Lies to Homespace, Agency UNIAN writes that the SBU detained two Russians who allegedly were spotters of the Buk complex. This cites Mr. Nalyvaychenko:

For the crew of the "Buk" terrorists did not have enough fire spotters. Two citizens of Russia were detained by border guards and the Security Service of Ukraine on one of the sections of the Ukrainian-Russian border in the Donetsk region. Both have Russian passports, and one of them even thought of coming with a military ID, which marked his military profession - a spotter of fire.


In the parallel Universe ukROSMI: militias fire at themselves, Nalivaychenko "caught" Russian spotters of fire of the Buk complex


And after all, such crazy statements about Russian “spotters” with passports and military tickets (well, that at least not in the red star’s Budenovka) are believed by Ukrainian readers ...
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  1. Trevis
    Trevis 18 July 2014 16: 21
    +42
    In short, as always. Madhouse "Veselka". wassat
    1. Matroskin 18
      Matroskin 18 18 July 2014 16: 24
      +27
      Nalyvaichenko "caught" the Russian spotters of the Buk complex

      So, so ... So, after all, the Ukrainian Buk was shooting!
      Here you are yourself and passed !!! laughing
      1. raccoon
        raccoon 18 July 2014 16: 31
        +11
        I’ve read it now, it’s quiet, my hair stands on end ............ I FOR THE INTRODUCTION OF RUSSIAN TROOPS, and putting things in order, all the Nazis under the tribunal .......... and I do not care about the opinion of the geyropa, and some kind of freaks because of curse, spit !!! Russia forward, people support! TIME !!!!!
        1. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak 18 July 2014 16: 45
          +19
          Quote: raccoon
          FOR THE INTRODUCTION OF RUSSIAN TROOPS,

          No need to rush. Now Geyropa will deal with the plane, clarify all the problems with the culprits, and then we'll see!
          By the way, if Russia begins to introduce troops, which of our couch specialists will go to lead the army? Or let them understand? Immediately nip the counter question. I am an inveterate by disability.
          1. herruvim
            herruvim 18 July 2014 18: 30
            +5
            As our favorite chef says: “If a person is an idiot, then this is for a long time!” “Diamond hand”

            "Your home is a prison!" "Beware of the car"
          2. biznaw
            biznaw 18 July 2014 19: 16
            +3
            Elegant ... slink. +
          3. vlad-58
            vlad-58 18 July 2014 20: 40
            +1
            similarly, but there was a chance to shoot ...
          4. Horn
            Horn 18 July 2014 21: 40
            +4
            Quote: Hedgehog
            Quote: raccoon
            FOR THE INTRODUCTION OF RUSSIAN TROOPS,

            No need to rush. Now Geyropa will deal with the plane, clarify all the problems with the culprits, and then we'll see!
            By the way, if Russia begins to introduce troops, which of our couch specialists will go to lead the army? Or let them understand? Immediately nip the counter question. I am an inveterate by disability.

            - Understand how! Even if it is 100% likely that Boeing was shot down by proto-guards, Putin will be to blame. Just because Ukrainians cannot be guilty by definition, and Russia MUST be guilty. Already assigned guilty. The Australians and the hutmen from the pit know better ...
            1. samuil60
              samuil60 18 July 2014 23: 25
              +1
              Like grandfather Krylov: "You are to blame for the fact that I want to eat ..."
            2. wasjasibirjac
              wasjasibirjac 19 July 2014 08: 03
              +1
              Quote: Horn
              e! Even if it is 100% likely that Boeing was shot down by proto-guards, Putin will be to blame.

              that's right, Putin is to blame - he brought the poor dill to the point that they began to shoot at everything that flies by, demanding the entry of Russian troops. winked
              and one more thing - people, tell me what kind of VUS is this - "Bukov" fire spotter, how is the adjustment of the guided anti-aircraft missile made, does the soldier follow the target and illuminate it?
              1. Horn
                Horn 19 July 2014 10: 07
                0
                No, the "Bukov" spotter has well-developed arm muscles. He, quickly waving his arms, sits in the clouds and adjusts the fire.
          5. samuil60
            samuil60 18 July 2014 23: 23
            +1
            Geyropa is sure to figure it out. And clarify all the problems. And after all the clarifications, we will be to blame! And about sofa specialists - it's probably better to look in the mirror. If not conscript on disability.
          6. PSih2097
            PSih2097 18 July 2014 23: 41
            +1
            Quote: Hedgehog
            By the way, if Russia begins to introduce troops, which of our couch specialists will go to lead the army?

            if necessary, I’ll go and there’s someone to lead (the military generals haven’t all been kicked out of the army), and not only myself, but I’ll pull up a couple of squads from my platoon as well (engineering intelligence - and whoever is not there) ...
          7. instructor
            instructor 19 July 2014 00: 26
            0
            It’s easy that I’m just waiting for this, I thought to move to the militia, but it’s not mine, all these movements are chaotic and do not understand who is where. I'm used to order and discipline. soldier
        2. biznaw
          biznaw 18 July 2014 19: 15
          +1
          What impressionable are you ... Recently live in the world? Read the history books, Gogol, Tolstoy, has something changed since then? Read about Svidomity Bulgakov.
          Quote: raccoon
          I’ve read it now, it’s quiet, my hair stands on end ............ I FOR THE INTRODUCTION OF RUSSIAN TROOPS, and putting things in order, all the Nazis under the tribunal .......... and I do not care about the opinion of the geyropa, and some kind of freaks because of curse, spit !!! Russia forward, people support! TIME !!!!!
          1. samuil60
            samuil60 18 July 2014 23: 27
            0
            Do not read Ukrainian newspapers in the morning! - So there are no others! “Don't read any!”
          2. PSih2097
            PSih2097 18 July 2014 23: 42
            0
            Quote: biznaw
            Read about Svidomity Bulgakov.

            "White Guard" at least ... Or Sholokhov.
        3. nycsson
          nycsson 18 July 2014 19: 37
          +1
          On a downed plane ....
          1. aristarh
            aristarh 18 July 2014 21: 38
            +1
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            1. Kars
              Kars 18 July 2014 22: 52
              +1


              Existence of Beeches in the anti-terrorist operation zone 53 with
            2. Observer2014
              Observer2014 19 July 2014 01: 03
              +1
              "And so everything is clear that Russia is to blame anyway." So you can beat the bastards! If you don't do something, we are still to blame!
        4. Salamander
          Salamander 18 July 2014 19: 52
          +5
          Friend, don’t read it. Save hundreds of meters of nerve fibers.
        5. 1812 1945
          1812 1945 18 July 2014 20: 30
          +1
          Quote: raccoon
          I’ve read it now, it’s quiet, my hair stands on end ............ I FOR THE INTRODUCTION OF RUSSIAN TROOPS, and putting things in order, all the Nazis under the tribunal .......... and I do not care about the opinion of the geyropa, and some kind of freaks because of curse, spit !!! Russia forward, people support! TIME !!!!!

          U.r.o.d.y insisting on the need to further scare the U.K.R.ov - orcs with anus smeared with petroleum jelly, not "overseas", but much closer. As for the monstrous crime orchestrated by the Americans, but mediocrely executed by the U.K.R.A.mi, the pi.nd.os will act out what they have. Two spotters serving the Buk installation were caught. - Both Russians, heroes of both patriotic wars, members of the RSDLPb since 1913 and United Russia and Putin's personal friends. - No questions. The next success of the SBU is the exposure of the dill crew of one of the Buk missiles, bought by Russian spies for a wagon (two) lard. : all efforts will be made to "translate the arrows". It is not necessary to wait, but to blame the real perpetrators of thousands of innocent victims - the USA!
          1. izGOI
            izGOI 19 July 2014 02: 36
            0
            СThe next success of the SBU is the exposure of the dill crew of one of the Buk missiles bought by Russian spies
            Everything is fine, but why give ukram such ideas. I'm even afraid that in a couple of days the SBU will declare that the crew of the Ukrovsky "Buk" was bribed (you know by whom) and shot down the Boeing.
            1. wasjasibirjac
              wasjasibirjac 19 July 2014 08: 08
              +1
              Quote: izGOI
              I'm even afraid that in a couple of days the SBU will declare that the crew of the Ukrov's "Buk" was bribed (you know by whom) and shot down the Boeing.

              Really, Putin personally handed over fat?
        6. vlad-58
          vlad-58 18 July 2014 20: 39
          +2
          Well, the troops are introduced, what next? Well it is necessary to destroy 90% of the population ... judging by what they say and write (and what they think ... oooo ...)
          1. Val_y
            Val_y 19 July 2014 00: 34
            0
            90% destroy, do not get excited, dear ?? AND?? And 50% of the population doesn’t sit on blogs and the Internet at all, but to judge everyone because of trolls, well, somehow fool
        7. cosmos111
          cosmos111 18 July 2014 21: 18
          0
          interesting news ....
          The head of the Supreme Council of the Donetsk People’s Republic Denis Pushilin resigned .... During the vote, the leadership of the DPR unanimously decided to satisfy the request for resignation

          http://politobzor.net/show-28236-denis-pushilin-ushel-v-otstavku.html

          STRELKOV .I. AND MAKES A SECRET ORDER !!!
        8. def89
          def89 18 July 2014 22: 54
          +10
          I am not involuntary !! I follow all the resources on the Internet! Sam passed the 2nd Chechnya, a sniper, a fire instructor! But I can’t be there. because the wife is disabled on crutches, and the son will come from the army only in November! Only full can vote for the entry of troops !! We have a draft army !! I had seen enough of such soldiers at one time !! Contractors are no better! Better as in Spain in 30 volunteers with combat experience! But I can’t sit and write that I’m disabled, and I can’t do anything, but the soldier must be sent, stupidity !! You never collected your fighters and friends in parts, you didn’t look your parents in the eyes when you bring the coffin with their son! If I could leave my wife who walks on crutches with the confidence that she will have a piece of bread, I would already be there! at least I could help with a little money and provide a 1-room apartment, unfurnished and for a while until my son comes from the army. But I don’t sit and give out all nonsense!
          1. sso-xnumx
            sso-xnumx 18 July 2014 23: 45
            +3
            You tell the truth, brother! Those who have never sent or delivered "zinc" to their parents will never understand this. It's one thing to protect the MOTHERLAND, which means father, mother, wife, children, your HOUSE, for this it is not a sin to die! And to insist on sending troops and to lie down on the couch yourself is supreme bastardism !!!
            May God give you strength and patience to survive all your hardships. Health, good luck and success to you and your family !!!!
        9. PKTRL
          PKTRL 19 July 2014 03: 04
          0
          I’ve read it now, it’s quiet, my hair stands on end ............ I FOR THE INTRODUCTION OF RUSSIAN TROOPS, and putting things in order, all the Nazis under the tribunal .......... and I do not care about the opinion of the geyropa, and some kind of freaks because of curse, spit !!! Russia forward, people support! TIME !!!!!
          Raccoon neat .. Your call for a third world ?! Are you ready to sprinkle with your own blood and the blood of your children the earth, and ...?! Ready for the sake of slogans from a computer to put 150 million. Citizens of our country ..?! I doubt it. You need to weigh your thoughts .....
      2. Natalia
        Natalia 18 July 2014 16: 32
        +15
        Nalyvaichenko "caught" the Russian spotters of the Buk complex

        I caught spotters, saved the world from 10 people, at a speed of 000 km / h left the cockpit with a bucket of water, put out the engine, climbed back.
        In short, neither Nalevaychenko but straight VanDam
        1. Rblipetsk
          Rblipetsk 18 July 2014 17: 05
          +2
          Quote: Natalia
          Oroch nor Nalevaychenko, but straight VanDam

          Looks like you vandamchik? wink
          1. Natalia
            Natalia 18 July 2014 17: 06
            +4
            Quote: RBLipetsk
            Looks like you vandamchik?

            Vadik then? ...... yes, nothing like that winked
            1. Rblipetsk
              Rblipetsk 18 July 2014 21: 01
              +1
              Quote: Natalia
              Vadik then? ...... yes, nothing like that

              Well, an honest guy. laughing and the ad is cool, I've seen it for a long time. although, I think, they stole the idea from our film "Peculiarities of the National Hunt", well, the moment with the cow on the plane. And this is Buldakovskoe - "If you want to live, you will not get so hot!" laughing
        2. Dry_T-50
          Dry_T-50 18 July 2014 17: 40
          +3
          In the second photo, replace the trucks with the Su-25 and Boeing 777. So it will be just right good
        3. Oleg Sobol
          Oleg Sobol 18 July 2014 20: 20
          0
          That's why VanDamchik is so offended ... Compare with this - fool
          1. Oleg Sobol
            Oleg Sobol 18 July 2014 20: 31
            +1
            Here is the level of Nalyvaychenko. Seroburomaline Po (not belt) vodka laughing

            1. Strezhevchanin
              Strezhevchanin 18 July 2014 20: 40
              +2
              Quote: Oleg Sobol
              Here is the level of Nalyvaychenko

              Much easier!
        4. samuil60
          samuil60 18 July 2014 23: 33
          +1
          Van Damme, by the way, has long been really addicted to drugs, and now there is little left of the good fellow.
        5. zennon
          zennon 19 July 2014 00: 51
          +1
          Quote: Natalia
          Caught spotters,

          I'm sitting here and thinking, what kind of military specialty is this "BUK m1 air defense missile system"? Guys, I'm really not catching up, explain what you mean? request
          1. kirieeleyson
            kirieeleyson 19 July 2014 01: 15
            0
            there is no concept and specialty "spotter" in air defense. This is bullshit. Let them tell their children, they have all spotters shoot down anything with a laser beam. Hollywood, what.
          2. izGOI
            izGOI 19 July 2014 03: 08
            +1
            "Spotter SAM Buk m1" is the "extreme" Kiev KNOW-HOW. Extreme, but not the last, because Ukraine has not died yet! Get ready for new pearls from ukroSMI.
      3. Gxash
        Gxash 18 July 2014 16: 33
        +4
        Something all this nonsense no longer smells, but stinks specifically. It’s like a cesspool!

        The mouth is an opni, a fan of Psaki, or you will catch a cold inside!
      4. Orik
        Orik 18 July 2014 17: 05
        +3
        Quote: Matroskin 18
        So, so ... So, after all, the Ukrainian Buk was shooting!
        Here you are yourself and passed !!! laughing

        Do not listen to idiots, if I’m not mistaken, the Buk air defense missile is equipped with many striking elements, the photo and video from the place you can’t see the rugged surfaces of the aircraft.
        1. sgazeev
          sgazeev 18 July 2014 20: 24
          -3
          Today a hole flashed in the fuselage (on TV). The size is half the size of the Kursk. Specialists commented that it was from a surface-to-air missile. angry
      5. DMB-88
        DMB-88 18 July 2014 17: 52
        +3
        Quote: Matroskin 18
        Nalyvaichenko "caught" the Russian spotters of the Buk complex

        So, so ... So, after all, the Ukrainian Buk was shooting!
        Here you are yourself and passed !!! laughing


        Subconsciously, there is a desire to nail this stinking animal!
        1. Revolver
          Revolver 18 July 2014 18: 24
          +3
          Quote: DMB-88
          Subconsciously, there is a desire to nail this stinking animal!
          Well, fulfill your desire. No one will object to this, at least on this site. On the contrary, they will also get along with tips on how to do this thing better — whether to hang it, to plant it on a stake, or to drown in a cesspool.
        2. sgazeev
          sgazeev 18 July 2014 20: 25
          0
          Quote: DMB-88
          Quote: Matroskin 18
          Nalyvaichenko "caught" the Russian spotters of the Buk complex

          So, so ... So, after all, the Ukrainian Buk was shooting!
          Here you are yourself and passed !!! laughing


          Subconsciously, there is a desire to nail this stinking animal!

          By the list!
      6. kowalski
        kowalski 18 July 2014 17: 57
        +12
        "The terrorists did not have enough spotters for the Buk crew"
        With flags of white and red, with a portable radio station, Chinese lantern
        a receiver of "Speedol", a collection of quotes by Karl Marx and a quilted jacket painted white-blue-red! Well, here comes a drunken bear with a balalaika, then WHAT ?!
      7. vadimN
        vadimN 18 July 2014 18: 02
        +21
        "Nalyvaychenko" caught "Russian spotters of the Buk complex fire

        Either I am a.di.yo.t, or a new super specialty has appeared in the Ukrainian army: "spotter of medium-range air defense complex fire."

        If there are air defense personnel here, explain to me, a retired naval officer, why h.r.i.n. a spotter for a homing missile that works in conjunction with radar? Is he looking at her through binoculars and yelling: "Mykola, hit the right half of the meter!"
        1. Iline
          Iline 18 July 2014 18: 09
          +7
          Yes, it's just bullshit, do not pay attention to idiots. Only with this one phrase did he put himself in the position of a complete moron in front of the whole world. You can be an air gunner for army aviation, but not for medium-range air defense systems.
          1. combat192
            combat192 18 July 2014 18: 31
            +9
            The aircraft pilot is referred to in the documents as an officer of ground target designation and aviation guidance.
        2. tasey
          tasey 18 July 2014 20: 02
          +3
          Who would explain to me, an old missile officer, Strategic Missile Forces "Pioneer" - "Topol", why did we need spotters in the United States? They fired, they were calculated there ... But they had to hold on to the last - they MUST have guided missiles!
          1. izGOI
            izGOI 19 July 2014 03: 15
            +1
            Looks like it was necessary thieves and sons to work abroad to attach. So they came up with the position of spotters. Well, the Ukrainians extended this to air defense.
            And yet, I already wrote that in Kiev, down the vertical of power, unprofessionalism smoothly turns into sabotage. Nalyvayko himself did not understand how his assistants framed him.
            1. sso-xnumx
              sso-xnumx 19 July 2014 19: 03
              0
              Or rather, then leaked !!!
        3. vlad-58
          vlad-58 18 July 2014 20: 48
          0
          I'm an artilleryman, and I can from anti-aircraft guns. I saw this beech, and I’m not getting close - I have to study for six months ...
        4. Patriot.ru.
          Patriot.ru. 18 July 2014 22: 04
          +4
          Corrector "BUKA" is the LORD GOD, he sees everything from above (10), you just know.
          1. sso-xnumx
            sso-xnumx 19 July 2014 00: 02
            0
            Oh! We would have more and more, more !!!
        5. sso-xnumx
          sso-xnumx 19 July 2014 00: 00
          +2
          So this is the Ukrainian "Buk" !!!! He is much more perfect than his parent! Modernized in accordance with the latest requirements of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, "rosumiet tilki ridnaya movu" exclusively by sound prompts!
          You and I, dear colleague, with a Soviet higher education, do not think about it.
      8. meriem1
        meriem1 18 July 2014 20: 38
        +1
        Correctors are needed only for firing at squares in the field. Buk does not need correction)))) Here. Materiel need to be taught before you are going to lie ...
    2. Oleg Sobol
      Oleg Sobol 18 July 2014 16: 25
      +27
      Nalivaychenko began to overtake the Psaki, by the absurdity and stupidity of the statements.
      All in the CIA with staff strained, hiring the "best" of the worst laughing
      1. Apologet.Ru
        Apologet.Ru 18 July 2014 16: 32
        +8
        hi
        The debility of the leaders of the Independent jumps mind ...
      2. Mityasha
        Mityasha 18 July 2014 16: 37
        +9
        Psaki modestly bites her nails aside, the stupidity laurels go away ... Soon there will be a statement that she was captured by the entire Russian Airborne Forces, which will confirm the presence of our troops on the territory uncovered !!! Well stupid ...
      3. Caa
        Caa 18 July 2014 17: 59
        +2
        It seems that texts are being written to him by all the Maidan. Otherwise, where does this come from?
      4. Revolver
        Revolver 18 July 2014 18: 52
        +1
        Quote: Oleg Sobol
        Nalivaychenko began to overtake the Psaki, by the absurdity and stupidity of the statements.
        All in the CIA with staff strained, hiring the "best" of the worst

        But the correct shot, ideologically tested. And rides professionally.
      5. smolnuy
        smolnuy 18 July 2014 19: 15
        +7
        Their prezik Potroshenko double Psaki overtook.
      6. Combitor
        Combitor 19 July 2014 00: 55
        +1
        Quote: Oleg Sobol
        Nalivaychenko began to overtake the Psaki, by the absurdity and stupidity of the statements.

        Quote: Both have Russian passports, and one of them even thought of arriving with a military ID, where his military profession, the spotter, was noted.
        And also: a certificate of secondary education, a birth certificate, a Komsomol card, membership cards "Young friend of firefighters" and "Green" patrol. Winnie the Pooh is resting. He even had sawdust in his head. And Ukropovskie eccentrics (with the letter " m ") in the heads of an incomprehensible biomass.
        Judging by the number of Russian military specialists caught with dill, only cleaners remained in our GRU, FSB, and the Ministry of Internal Affairs. And, judging by the reports of ukroSMI, even a milkmaid is capable of aiming a missile at a target in Russia. Well, even a cook is capable of running a state. What can we say about missile defense systems. So, seeds ...
        1. pensioner
          pensioner 19 July 2014 05: 04
          +1
          Quote: Kombitor
          in the heads of incomprehensible biomass.

          Why incomprehensible ?? Very clear Yes . Sticky and with a specific smell ... feel
    3. Момент
      Момент 18 July 2014 16: 26
      +9
      fool Santa Barbora is resting. The new diagnosis is a total mental syndrome with bouts of schizophrenia.
      1. Evgen_Vasilich
        Evgen_Vasilich 18 July 2014 16: 47
        +5
        here on "peremogi" in LJ, one lady said that with such a name you need to work as a bartender!
      2. chehywed
        chehywed 18 July 2014 16: 50
        +9
        Quote: Moment
        . The new diagnosis is universal psychic syndrome with attacks of schizophrenia.

        The diagnosis is just old - the brain of the brain. A terribly infectious and incurable thing.
      3. smolnuy
        smolnuy 18 July 2014 19: 17
        +8
        The diagnosis for dill.
      4. vinc
        vinc 18 July 2014 20: 19
        +1
        And the corresponding photo: "Doctor, wait a few more words for the media with a galloper."
    4. St Petrov
      St Petrov 18 July 2014 16: 27
      +21
      The corrector peers into the blue for a long time, then makes an adjustment by manually moving the guides of the BUK missiles in the right direction.

      Helps push and ... Rocket went

      The target is amazed, the spotter calls the Kremlin via field communications. Putin praises him.

      We are waiting for the next ship. The corrector does not sleep.
    5. Fuse
      Fuse 18 July 2014 16: 27
      +7
      In the previous topic, I posted a "novelty" from the SBU. But here it will be more relevant (Nalyvaichenko is personally responsible for the authenticity of his skin am )
      1. Zerstorer
        Zerstorer 18 July 2014 16: 44
        +8
        Quote from the video: "Russia must * hit * their positions."
        Do they even understand how they undermine the morale of their "army"? There would be more such videos on Ukrainian forums.
      2. halg
        halg 18 July 2014 17: 10
        +5
        "Theater at the microphone" - there was such a program in the USSR. It looks like they remembered.
        1. Andrew
          Andrew 18 July 2014 19: 11
          +4
          Super!!! It’s a wonderful studio recording. Well, at least for the order of noise, they added / for some reason, the commentator only has noise effects /. This is not stupidity or even idiocy, this is insanity in the last stage. Unfortunately, someone will believe.
      3. vedross
        vedross 18 July 2014 19: 44
        +2
        Disclaimer: http://rusvesna.su/news/1405689523
      4. Irbis5974
        Irbis5974 18 July 2014 20: 16
        +2
        Ndaaa! Just handsome! Record phone conversations in the purest stereo mode! Their technique is on the verge of fantasy. Even "Verty" does not have a stereo microphone, but here are ordinary mobile phones. Would have come up with something better.
      5. 31231
        31231 18 July 2014 20: 56
        0
        negotiations may be the same as the original, but they do not say that the plane was shot down by the Buk militia.
        Moreover, these negotiations could be a special disinfect for dill, so that they moderate the ardor in raids.
        but the SBU, in its own way, took advantage of this info by directing the downing of a Boeing by Buk.
        And I suppose that during the launch of the rocket, the Boeing was hit and went down, while the pilots gave the info to the air that the Ukrainians had hit them. And in order to remove the witnesses, the Boeing was finished off by the Ukrainian Rusk in the fall area. Eyewitnesses note the presence of a second aircraft in the disaster area.
        Plus, some Spanish dispatcher talked about the accompanying ukrolitak.
      6. vlad-58
        vlad-58 18 July 2014 21: 03
        +1
        this is not it ... where is it written? in the basement? in a studio? you can’t even hear other people's steps, and you can’t record it so cleanly on the cheapest phone - without extraneous noise! it’s strange somehow ... it looks like a performance - the theater of two actors (the voices are the same), maybe three ... bullshit!
        and if you begin to analyze the meaning of what was said ...
        I had IT heard by a professional singer with excellent ear for music: there are only three votes!
    6. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 18 July 2014 16: 28
      +18
      It’s time to make such statements already .. the naglaxaks and their mongrel really unlimited .. in a word .. Nothing men will break through .. Everything is in full swing (the main thing is not to hysteria, we just want to lose our temper ..) The answer will be tough (otherwise we are not Russian. .)
    7. Giant thought
      Giant thought 18 July 2014 16: 29
      +3
      Fantasy works for Ukrainians at 100%.
      1. GRAY
        GRAY 18 July 2014 16: 44
        +4
        Quote: Thought Giant
        Fantasy works for Ukrainians at 100%.

        I have long had the impression that psychoactive substances work there with might and main.
        1. Lukich
          Lukich 18 July 2014 17: 07
          +6
          Quote: GRAY
          I have long had the impression that psychoactive substances work there with might and main.

          it seems they first experience it on themselves
    8. Evgen_Vasilich
      Evgen_Vasilich 18 July 2014 16: 45
      +2
      if he said - I swear, then yes, he doesn’t lie!
    9. subbtin.725
      subbtin.725 18 July 2014 16: 45
      +6
      Quote: Trevis
      And after all, such crazy statements about Russian “spotters” with passports and military tickets (well, that at least not in the red star’s Budenovka) are believed by Ukrainian readers ...


      It feels like not the readers, but a herd of Svidomo and independent sheep.
    10. from punk
      from punk 18 July 2014 17: 01
      +10
      Quote: Trevis
      In short, as always. Madhouse "Veselka".

      spotters with Russian passports mean? and maybe with Ukrainian ?, only you Nalyvaychenko do not know how they look.
    11. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 18 July 2014 17: 21
      +4
      Corrector for walkie-talkie calculation Buka-Levee, a little higher, still, still, a little higher, or laughing
      1. enot73
        enot73 18 July 2014 17: 49
        +4
        and more about the negotiations of the "terrorists": The plane crashed on July 17 around 16:20 Kiev time. The file, with the alleged transcript of the negotiations, submitted by the SBU on the evening of July 17, was uploaded to the video hosting on July 16 at 19:10:24.

        YouTube video hosting captures U.S. video downloads. The difference between Kiev time and US time is a maximum of 7 to 11 (the time zone of Alaska). At the time of the SB file of Ukraine, the difference is 21 hours. It turns out that the file was uploaded to the video hosting no less than half a day before the tragedy. (Rusvesna)
        1. vedross
          vedross 18 July 2014 19: 46
          +1
          http://rusvesna.su/news/1405689523
    12. dmitrich
      dmitrich 18 July 2014 18: 05
      +2
      and why for beech spotters.
      1. enot73
        enot73 18 July 2014 18: 26
        +2
        Quote: Dmitry
        and why for beech spotters.
        Well, you have to blurt out something with a smart look.
      2. Svarog75
        Svarog75 18 July 2014 19: 11
        +2
        So the BEECH without the spotter, well, never hit the target bully
      3. fatix80
        fatix80 18 July 2014 20: 16
        0
        if the target is ground. I'm not so smart, they said on TV :)
      4. sso-xnumx
        sso-xnumx 19 July 2014 00: 17
        0
        in order for voice commands to correlrrrrrrrrrrr to correct the flight path of the rocket and the airplane, until they intersect completely.
        Dial "Buk-M" in the network and everything is written there.
        PS Yes, I completely forgot, there also specify the meaning, definition and concept of the word - spotter.
      5. izGOI
        izGOI 19 July 2014 03: 26
        0
        We will ask Nalyvayki.
    13. 77bob1973
      77bob1973 18 July 2014 18: 57
      +2
      There is still not enough charging for the complex nearby with sledges and a couple of furry !!!
      1. Irbis5974
        Irbis5974 18 July 2014 20: 20
        0
        And another rocket technique ... one-time. Well, that in flight would wipe the oil, cleaned the soot laughing
    14. Comrade Bender
      Comrade Bender 18 July 2014 19: 01
      +1
      And why would they be surprised if Nalyvaychenko-Vypivaychenko in childhood was registered with PND with a developmental backwardness.
    15. nycsson
      nycsson 18 July 2014 19: 24
      +2
      the consequences of shelling Lugansk .....
    16. chehywed
      chehywed 18 July 2014 19: 44
      +1
      Quote: Trevis
      Madhouse "Veselka"

      The most delicious is just beginning! laughing Clickable ...
    17. sgazeev
      sgazeev 18 July 2014 20: 17
      +2
      Quote: Trevis
      In short, as always. Madhouse "Veselka". wassat

      What a teacher is, such a student. fool
      1. asar
        asar 19 July 2014 01: 22
        0
        "I am aware" - here my thoughts "accumulated", there are "many" of them! And doctors, well, psychiatrists, say that I am bad and that I am "just a zombie"! But it can be treated, right ?! "
    18. samuil60
      samuil60 18 July 2014 23: 18
      +1
      Sorry for the people of Ukraine. All of these Nalivaychenks consider them idiots or make idiots of them. Judging by the forums, it seems they have achieved real success.
    19. asar
      asar 19 July 2014 00: 15
      +1
      For the crew of the "Buk" terrorists did not have enough fire spotters. Two citizens of Russia were detained by border guards and the Security Service of Ukraine on one of the sections of the Ukrainian-Russian border in the Donetsk region. Both have Russian passports, and one of them even thought of coming with a military ID, which marked his military profession - a spotter of fire.


      Well, I just spread my hands! WELL STUPID! Appeal to "dick" Nalivaichenko: have you read books about the war at least once, how partisans fought, how Soviet saboteurs "tore the thread" ?! Or haven't you read it? Yes you are DOWN! Who, getting ready for a raid, takes the documents ?! Well you and DOWN, like DOWNS and your "admirers"!
    20. Baloo
      Baloo 20 July 2014 20: 44
      +1
      No matter what any representative of the Kuev junta says, it’s ridiculous even to those who don’t laugh at the circus. Clowns ... Yo ...
  2. Aydar
    Aydar 18 July 2014 16: 21
    +32
    And what is there such a VUS as a "fire spotter"? And what does the Buk have to do with it, if it is an air defense system and why does he need a "fire spotter"?
    It seems that Nalivaychenko has phimosis of the brain.
    1. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 18 July 2014 16: 24
      +19
      Sits like this:
      - fifth fifth, missed, take 20 to the right! ...
      1. asar
        asar 19 July 2014 00: 39
        0
        This is poured.che (n) to something, well, DOWN Kiev, everyone knows him, "drives" the "launch" from the air defense system, sitting next to him, covering his eyes with his palm! wassat "Gunner", your mother!
    2. Gado
      Gado 18 July 2014 16: 40
      +13
      The "expert", the disrespectful chief of the SBU, slept. If such a "specialist" as Mr. Nalyvaychenko does not know how the Buk air defense system works, then what to say about ordinary people?
    3. Lukich
      Lukich 18 July 2014 17: 09
      +7
      Quote: Aydar
      And what is there such a VUS as a "fire spotter"? And what does the Buk have to do with it, if it is an air defense system and why does he need a "fire spotter"?

      and Svidomo, that do not feed, they gobble up everything. Yes, and ask for an additive
    4. hhhhhhh
      hhhhhhh 18 July 2014 17: 11
      +1
      It's just that in the negotiations of the "separatists" they talk about the lack of spotters, so they were found.
      But I didn’t understand. Did they leave or enter Ukraine?
    5. from punk
      from punk 18 July 2014 17: 40
      +6
      Quote: Aydar
      And what is there such a VUS as a "fire spotter"?

      in the Ukrainian army there is. One won, in Voronezh resting
    6. Howlet
      Howlet 18 July 2014 18: 03
      +2
      The laser pointer corrector highlights the target, probably ...
    7. Rebus
      Rebus 18 July 2014 18: 12
      +3
      Quote: Aydar
      It looks like Nalyvaichenko brain phimosis.

      laughing laughing laughing
      Nalyvaichenko, based on your words, a member ... laughing
      And life-giving euthanasia cures this disease .... laughing

      PS From such pearls, such as "Buk anti-aircraft gun spotter", one can come to the conclusion that public "mouthpieces", as well as state officials of Ukraine, all of them suffer from anacephaly (lack of a brain) ...
    8. scutum
      scutum 18 July 2014 19: 29
      +3
      this is the most pressing issue - the SBU chief is either an ignoramus or a provocateur, but most likely an ignoramus provocateur am
  3. mig31
    mig31 18 July 2014 16: 22
    +8
    It’s ridiculous, if it weren’t sinful, they would soon be kaput to the murderers and hires of the State Department ...
  4. avg
    avg 18 July 2014 16: 22
    +32
    For the crew of the "Buk" terrorists did not have enough fire spotters. Two citizens of Russia were detained by border guards and the Security Service of Ukraine on one of the sections of the Ukrainian-Russian border in the Donetsk region. Both have Russian passports, and one of them even thought of coming with a military ID, which marked his military profession - a spotter of fire.

    Beech Fire Corrector is a complete scribe.
    It remains to calculate the accelerators of radio waves and sun-sticks.
    1. Riperbahn
      Riperbahn 18 July 2014 16: 30
      +11
      I don’t remember where. The submarine commander writes in the logbook - he lay down on course 237 with the goal of evading the lunar path. This is from the same opera - spotter ... Already the tears from the laughter flowed.
    2. skrgar
      skrgar 18 July 2014 16: 37
      +17
      Tomorrow he will declare, "The military card says" Civil aircraft knocker "and Putin and the words" Death to Ukraine! "
      Beech Fire Corrector is a complete scribe.
      It remains to calculate the accelerators of radio waves and sun-sticks. [/ Quote]
    3. raccoon
      raccoon 18 July 2014 16: 42
      +8
      What do you mean, the BUK spotter is a super soldier: he sits on a rocket, starts a launch, and manually, with the help of his hands and feet, directs the rocket exactly to the plane, then at the last moment he jumps and lands safely by parachute !!! This explains what kind of paratroopers were in the Boeing crash zone !!! THIS IS SO !!!!! fellow
      1. Riperbahn
        Riperbahn 18 July 2014 16: 44
        +2
        Is there a pedal on the rocket?
        1. I am
          I am 18 July 2014 18: 38
          +3
          Apparently, Ukrainian missiles are equipped with pedals, instead of marching engines, and instead of shunting ones. there is no fuel))))))))))
      2. figter
        figter 18 July 2014 17: 04
        +3
        What kind of spotters are we talking about? He does not need spotters, this is not artillery, the calculation of the 9K37 Buk air defense missile system includes operators of angular coordinates and range. Reconnaissance and shooting is carried out by radar method. which is not visually corrected. This hype is nonsense of dilettantes!
        1. Lukich
          Lukich 18 July 2014 17: 14
          +8
          Quote: figter
          What kind of spotters are we talking about? He doesn’t need spotters

          Nalyvaychenko said they need, then they need. they know better laughing
        2. Svarog75
          Svarog75 18 July 2014 19: 20
          +2
          Shhh, they didn't fall in office. otherwise dill will be recognized bully
      3. Mityasha
        Mityasha 18 July 2014 21: 45
        +1
        And the most important and first spotter is Baron Munchausen. Probably nalivayko recently re-read fairy tales, thought a ride. No pasaran !!! soldier
    4. tolancop
      tolancop 18 July 2014 17: 06
      +5
      We need fire spotters for the Buk.
      Personnel came from Russia.
      SBU and border guards detained them. Hooray!!!???

      Not really. Since the SBU with the ukropgrants worked so well, then ... the spotters did not make it to the Buk ... and just as the Bukov's crew lacked them, there was still a shortage. Who, then, flunked the Boeing?

      No matter how you throw, do not make ends meet at ukrov. You must also be able to lie.
      However, for people with a completely washed head off, it will do.
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    5. SSeT
      SSeT 18 July 2014 17: 37
      +2
      Ndaa ... Corrector "Buk" !! ?? With earflaps, Riding a bear swinging a saber desperately correcting Buk! On what he got caught, because the parachute was not hidden by the military man, signed by Putin. WHAT is this schizoid delirium ?? What are they eating there ?? Orderlies, leave immediately!
    6. wasjasibirjac
      wasjasibirjac 19 July 2014 08: 26
      0
      Quote: avg
      It remains to calculate the accelerators of radio waves and sun-sticks.

      as well as a rocket accelerator
  5. Pazifist87
    Pazifist87 18 July 2014 16: 23
    +11
    They have a parallel world, with their own "beeches", which need spotters, then they will probably catch the missile carriers ... Psychos.
    1. chehywed
      chehywed 18 July 2014 16: 43
      +6
      And yet, there spies go with a full set of incriminating documents.
      Quote: article
      Both have Russian passports, and one of them even thought of arriving with a military ID, where his military profession - a spotter of fire - was marked.

      It remains to add that if they did not go wrapped in tricolors, then perhaps they could leave. laughing
      1. Lukich
        Lukich 18 July 2014 17: 17
        +6
        Quote: chehywed
        It remains to add that if they did not go wrapped in tricolors, then perhaps they could leave.

        they were given padded jackets and cotton pants
        1. Andrew
          Andrew 18 July 2014 19: 29
          +1
          they were given padded jackets and cotton pants
          and a parachute lugging behind.
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    3. AQUARIUS 65
      AQUARIUS 65 18 July 2014 18: 16
      +4
      Pazifist87
      They have a parallel world, with their own "beeches", which need spotters, then they will probably catch the missile carriers ... Psychos.

      No, they are not crazy, they are sick, suffering from aggressive imbecility.
      Imbeciles are people with an average degree of oligophrenia (dementia). They are divided into good, affectionate imbeciles and aggressive. Imbeciles serve themselves, can perform simple functions, but are not independent in decision-making. Their speech is scarce, their memory is very small, and their thinking is stereotyped, comparable to a train traveling on rails — no-no-rail, that is, they do not have the ability to analyze objects and phenomena.

      They even see the diagnosis in their looks, facial expressions and gestures.
  6. Pro100Igor
    Pro100Igor 18 July 2014 16: 23
    +10
    Tame that, from Psaki chtoli became infected. They quickly slap the misinformation and brag about the whole world. Horror how stupidly work.
  7. KIRON
    KIRON 18 July 2014 16: 23
    +11
    where his military profession is noted - a spotter of fire.Even I do not know such a VUS. laughingNalyvaichenko, from the word "pour". To see him, dad and mom did after a good drink. So they degenerated the turd.
  8. Signaller
    Signaller 18 July 2014 16: 23
    +10
    Quote-you can’t go any further
    For the crew of "Buk" terrorists lacked spotters fire
    This is something. Apparently the people stayed at the beginning of the 19th century, when they corrected something with binoculars. True, airplanes do not fit into any framework at all. Caused, yes, but only in the middle of the 20th century.
    Summary-complete DILIBILITY in a comrade-ABSOLUTE.
    1. Science
      Science 18 July 2014 17: 51
      +1
      Yeah, the spotter instead of the 9S18M1 target detection station, sits like this with binoculars and transmits signals through the cable (I just don’t know where he shoved it, it’s hard to imagine) who is behind the headquarters machine (command post) 9C470M1-2, and he’s already a launch signal installations for tracking the target and launching a rocket. They themselves would have driven in what they were saying, and then they were talking.
      As a combat unit, the BUK complex is a separate anti-aircraft missile division, consisting of a control battery - a control unit, a target detection station and 3 fire batteries (2 SDAs and 1 ROM)
  9. Tatarus
    Tatarus 18 July 2014 16: 23
    +12
    It’s time to rename dill to Idiot. So write the president of idiots said, the minister of idiots said, well, the media report idiots.
    1. raccoon
      raccoon 18 July 2014 16: 46
      +4
      Soon a new expression will appear: "You star as h.o.h.o.l."
      1. KIRON
        KIRON 18 July 2014 16: 57
        +3
        Duc, Raccoon hi , it’s already in use. drinks
    2. KIRON
      KIRON 18 July 2014 18: 48
      +1
      In general, erase the card. Together with this dill nation.
  10. sever.56
    sever.56 18 July 2014 16: 23
    +8
    Schizophrenics - knit brooms, paranoid - draw zeros! And Goebbels - resting !!! fool fool fool
  11. johnsnz
    johnsnz 18 July 2014 16: 24
    +8
    “During the 17 of July, Russian radio equipment recorded the operation of the Kupol radar station of the Buk-M1 battery, deployed in the vicinity of the Styl settlement (30 kilometers south of Donetsk),” the statement said.

    “At the same time, the technical features of Buk-M1 allow the exchange of information about air targets between the batteries of one division. Thus, missile launch could also be carried out from all batteries deployed in the village of Avdeevka (8 kilometers north of Donetsk) or Gruzso-Zoryanskoe (25 kilometers east of Donetsk), ”the Russian Defense Ministry points out.
    1. figter
      figter 18 July 2014 17: 33
      +2
      johnsnz (xnumx)
      “During the 17 of July, Russian radio equipment recorded the operation of the Kupol radar station of the Buk-M1 battery, deployed in the vicinity of the Styl settlement (30 kilometers south of Donetsk),” the statement said.

      “At the same time, the technical features of Buk-M1 allow the exchange of information about air targets between the batteries of one division. Thus, missile launch could also be carried out from all batteries deployed in the village of Avdeevka (8 kilometers north of Donetsk) or Gruzso-Zoryanskoe (25 kilometers east of Donetsk), ”the Russian Defense Ministry points out.

      And the Ministry of Defense of Russia is also not very competent indicate. The telecode communication system of the 9K37 air defense missile system technically allows information to be transmitted over a distance of no more than 5 km to the command post, through which information is transmitted to another vehicle, also located at a distance of no more than 5 km. Thus, the removal of vehicles during such shooting cannot exceed 10 km. In this case, the distance between the cars is more than 30 km, so there can be no talk at all about the exchange between the "batteries". In addition, the "battery" in the "Buk" air defense missile system has only tactical and organizational significance, such a firing unit DOES NOT EXIST. Shooting is carried out exclusively with separate installations from the command post of the division.
      If our Ministry of Defense is capable of making such illiterate statements, then this worries me !!! What, literate anti-aircraft gunners ended in Moscow?
      1. Irbis5974
        Irbis5974 18 July 2014 20: 27
        0
        So then, in the light of all events, one would not have been clever ... feel No need to lay out secrets in detail wink
  12. Dazdranagon
    Dazdranagon 18 July 2014 16: 24
    +18
    Both have Russian passports, and one of them even thought of arriving with a military ID, where his military profession - a spotter of fire - was marked.
    - I suppose on a beech and went ... laughing
    1. Pazifist87
      Pazifist87 18 July 2014 16: 26
      +9
      and in everyone’s pockets there was a rocket)))
    2. Lukich
      Lukich 18 July 2014 17: 20
      +6
      Quote: Dazdranagon
      I suppose on a beech and went ...

      harnessed by bulls
  13. MaxikyM
    MaxikyM 18 July 2014 16: 24
    +10
    AAA "BUK spotters of fire" showed the hike where to shoot with a finger ....
    ukrofashisty harness ... wassat
    1. Riperbahn
      Riperbahn 18 July 2014 16: 34
      +3
      - Hey, you ragger! Where are the Azores?
      - Two rumba to the right, sir!
      - Why are you clever ?! You finger, show me your finger !!!
  14. saag
    saag 18 July 2014 16: 25
    +4
    Some kind of bzik went to Buk, why exactly Buk?
  15. Vend
    Vend 18 July 2014 16: 25
    +6
    Enlightenment will come later. It will be painful and scary.
  16. 2224460
    2224460 18 July 2014 16: 25
    +8
    where his military profession is noted - a spotter of fire.
    Well, exactly, the spotter of fire "Buk" and next to the column "starts" and a tick. The marasmus grew stronger, you see, by winter
  17. Victor-M
    Victor-M 18 July 2014 16: 26
    +8
    Adding lies to the Ukrainian media space, the UNIAN agency writes that the SBU detained two Russians who allegedly were spotters on the Buk complex.


    In Ukraine, a sufficient number of spotters, but the most important thing is not, the correct "brain spotter". wink laughing
  18. IvanT
    IvanT 18 July 2014 16: 26
    +10
    Quote: MaxikyM
    AAA "BUK spotters of fire" showed the hike where to shoot with a finger ....
    ukrofashisty harness ... wassat


    I think they looked through binoculars and shouted: Under-flying! flight!)))))))))))
  19. shaman-25rus
    shaman-25rus 18 July 2014 16: 28
    +6
    Did I miss something? FOR "BUKA" NEED AN ADJUSTER ????? I am slowly turning into a vegetable and folklore vegetable ... if you still need it, write in a personal note. (ebantism - for an anti-aircraft missile system - a spotter ... on an airship, damn it, probably)
  20. zzz
    zzz 18 July 2014 16: 28
    +3
    It's funny, but not very. We understand that this is stupidity, but the world believes them, and this is not at all funny.
  21. 1nik-ol
    1nik-ol 18 July 2014 16: 29
    +4
    For the crew of the "Buk" terrorists did not have enough fire spotters. Two citizens of Russia were detained by border guards and the Security Service of Ukraine on one of the sections of the Ukrainian-Russian border in the Donetsk region. Both have Russian passports, and one of them even thought of coming with a military ID, which marked his military profession - a spotter of fire.
    And they did not detain the spotter of fire on the Topol.
    1. Svarog75
      Svarog75 18 July 2014 19: 26
      +2
      No spotter of fire on Poplar left by kitchen gardens firing from parabellum Yes
  22. victorsh
    victorsh 18 July 2014 16: 29
    +4
    The Buk spotter fire is cool. It's in Ukrainian.
  23. Grigorievich
    Grigorievich 18 July 2014 16: 29
    +5
    Lord, educate these idiots.
    1. Ruslan67
      Ruslan67 18 July 2014 20: 14
      +1
      Quote: Grigorievich
      Lord, educate these idiots.

      The Lord looking at these idiots will soon move away
  24. kapitan281271
    kapitan281271 18 July 2014 16: 29
    +2
    The fire corrector for BUK is that the joke of either us and the diodes is considered either the nalyvaychenko and the diode or the author messed up something, but I do not believe that such nonsense could be carried even though by a bad recruited head of the SBU.
    1. Lukich
      Lukich 18 July 2014 17: 24
      +6
      Quote: kapitan281271
      this is what a joke or we are considered dyots

      not us, our citizens
      1. nahalenok911
        nahalenok911 18 July 2014 18: 05
        +1
        It’s just that at nalivaychenko, the author of the texts is jiving over him ..
  25. el.krokodil
    el.krokodil 18 July 2014 16: 30
    +3
    the squirrel came .. he with a bucket together fermented here and suck each other ... information for ukrosmi .. look at his face ..
  26. Dragon-y
    Dragon-y 18 July 2014 16: 33
    +2
    People, he probably corrected "by ear"? (whoever saw it in the chronicle will understand: 2 sockets, remotely similar to gramophone ones, and the tips from them were inserted into the ears and turned on the "turrets" - like "an acoustic detection station")
    1. raccoon
      raccoon 18 July 2014 16: 52
      +2
      Yes, yes, Yu.V. Nikulin fought on such an installation during World War II. Hearing needs a very good one!
  27. KIRON
    KIRON 18 July 2014 16: 33
    +5
    Ukrov has such a technique. Here and beat someone without hitting. Natsik.
  28. staryivoin
    staryivoin 18 July 2014 16: 33
    +5
    I have only one question, what is Mr. Nalyvaichenko sniffing or how much and what does he "pour" himself before pouring out these nonsense? Or was he taught in the CIA academies the subject of "Artistic lies"? And it looks like he was an excellent student in this subject! It floods so that Dr. Goebbels would be envious.
  29. saigon
    saigon 18 July 2014 16: 34
    +5
    God what stupid. Here is what can be explained by this Homo but not sapiens? They cannot lie by the way. Now, according to Boeing, which crashed. When people burned in Europe for spitting, when punishers smashed cities and people perished in Europe, they didn't give a damn about spitting shit in their mouths. What in Ukraine are people of a different sort than in Europe? The death of civilians. militias. and the soldier doesn’t count it off? When the Americans demolished a passenger plane in the Persian Gulf, they squealed less, or can Amer’s bitches be here? Where are the main terrorists in the whole country, where wars and deaths will not fit everywhere.
  30. mamont5
    mamont5 18 July 2014 16: 34
    +3
    "And after all, Ukrainian readers believe such delusional statements about Russian" spotters "with passports and military IDs (it's good that at least not in Budenovkas with a red star) ..."

    And parachutes dragged behind? If not, then no counting ...
  31. Dembel
    Dembel 18 July 2014 16: 34
    +4
    The situation around the downed Boeing is developing worse for Russia. This is most likely a planned provocation. The world community is hammered by the idea of ​​Russia's involvement in this disaster. And if not Russia itself brought down the Boeing, then it was done by the militia, which Russia supplies with weapons. I think that now the American senators will at least decide on the supply of arms to Ukraine, and at the very least will consider the question of the entry of NATO troops into Ukraine.
    1. Anper
      Anper 18 July 2014 18: 30
      +2
      Quote: Dembel
      The situation around the downed Boeing is developing worse for Russia.
      because for Ukraine, even without the downed Boeing, it developed catastrophically.
      I draw your attention - the top two lines in the document are translated as "... the units staying at the airport are absent. We assume that all the fighters were destroyed by the separatists"
      Open in a new tab.
      source http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/
  32. 2224460
    2224460 18 July 2014 16: 34
    +5
    Meanwhile, ukro-media write this heresy:
    According to Interior Minister Arsen Avakov, covert surveillance units of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine today on July 18 at 4.50 a.m. fixed a tractor with a loaded tracked missile system, moving in the direction through Krasnodon, towards the border with the Russian Federation. The video shows uncovered rockets. Two rockets in place - the average is not visible.
    “This and other collected information is being analyzed. Presumably, this is exactly the Buk missile system that fired yesterday at the Amsterdam-Kuala Lumpur civilian plane ... Criminals are trying to hide the traces of this monstrous crime. , and collects more and more irrefutable facts and evidence indicating the authors of this tragedy from the terrorist organization of the DPR / LPR and its Russian Putin patrons.
    So the dillies figured it all out. And with this crap they pump up the country, of course they will believe this, then there are no other sources, but ours have been turned off.
    1. SSeT
      SSeT 18 July 2014 17: 46
      +1
      Another Kaliknoy - average WHAT? left or right? on Buka 4 rockets on the launcher, military Facebook and twitter! fool
  33. commander
    commander 18 July 2014 16: 35
    +3
    Quote: Aydar
    And what is there such a VUS as a "fire spotter"? And what does the Buk have to do with it, if it is an air defense system and why does he need a "fire spotter"?
    It seems that Nalivaychenko has phimosis of the brain.

    There is an advanced aircraft gunner (PAN). We taught this profession at EVVAU Yeysk
    This specialist is the link between aviation and ground forces when aviation is at the forefront. Competent and timely adjustment of fire at the front line causes significant damage to the material and living forces of the enemy. In the USSR, the faculty for teaching PAN was located near Kerch, Bagerovo. After the collapse of the Soviet Union, it was decided to transfer the faculty to EVVAU. I am a graduate of this school. Graduates of this faculty participated in many hot spots.
    Fees are also being held to train ground forces personnel.
    Sincerely.
    1. figter
      figter 18 July 2014 18: 10
      +2
      Something I do not quite understand you. And what has PAN to do with it and what is the connection between him and the "Buk fire spotter"?
      Svidomye barked hohlyache "horrektirovshchik okhnya", which in translation into the common Slavic language, apparently means "operator".
  34. shosha
    shosha 18 July 2014 16: 36
    +3
    Ward No. 6 cries for them ... or maybe they smoke something .....
  35. Kibalchish
    Kibalchish 18 July 2014 16: 36
    +5
    Fire corrector for Beech ... Did he fly next to a Boeing?
  36. Gomunkul
    Gomunkul 18 July 2014 16: 36
    +3
    At the same time, Mr. Nalyvaichenko is quoted as saying:
    For the crew of the "Buk" terrorists did not have enough fire spotters. Two citizens of Russia were detained by border guards and the Security Service of Ukraine on one of the sections of the Ukrainian-Russian border in the Donetsk region. Both have Russian passports, and one of them even thought of coming with a military ID, which marked his military profession - a spotter of fire.

    It is time for Nalyvaichenko to write scripts for Hollywood "action films". There is a saying in Russia: when you lie, at least jump up! Now it becomes clear why in Ukraine who doesn’t jump, he is fucking. laughing
  37. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 18 July 2014 16: 37
    +5
    This is such nonsense, if anyone understands. Corrector air defense system. With a locator built into the body! And a relay communication station with the complex.
  38. Riperbahn
    Riperbahn 18 July 2014 16: 39
    +6
    I understood! I solved this mysterious riddle! Velikoukry screwed up and sold their air defense guidance and target designation stations for fat and burner! Instead, they introduced a VUS - a spotter for missiles of air defense systems. They think that we did just that - and we have such military specialties :))))
    1. Lukich
      Lukich 18 July 2014 17: 29
      +8
      Quote: Riperbahn
      I understood! I solved this mysterious riddle!

      congratulations, you have a deductive mindset hi wink
    2. Svarog75
      Svarog75 18 July 2014 19: 31
      +1
      Not a head but a House of Soviets hi
      1. Riperbahn
        Riperbahn 18 July 2014 20: 37
        0
        Not House of Soviets - Club of Sailors. And anyway - someone needs to be smarter :)))
  39. Buryi
    Buryi 18 July 2014 16: 42
    +2
    Nalyvaichenko "caught" the Russian spotters of the Buk complex


    Yeah, I caught ... I! He also has a certificate that he is a famous half-fool

    Media: There was confirmation of the diagnosis of "mental retardation" by the Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine
    http://www.vz.ru/news/2014/7/17/696049.html
  40. kapitan281271
    kapitan281271 18 July 2014 16: 45
    +2
    No, well, it’s not in any scope; well, at least a fraction of competence should be a nonsense or they generally keep Ukrainians for animals
  41. Dave36
    Dave36 18 July 2014 16: 46
    +5
    Svidomo ... caught the Russians who had rockets behind them ... and they saw a shooting Putin riding a bear, but failed to detain ....
  42. ODERVIT
    ODERVIT 18 July 2014 16: 50
    +4
    I do not have enough imagination to write comments on the nonsense rushing from the heads of the leaders coming out. The only disastrous thing is that they are at the helm, though in distress, but still afloat. Once again I am convinced that our Motherland will have problems with these neighbors as well, "a carriage and a small cart". A spotter, and even with an entry in the military ID ..... Fun ..... fool fool
  43. Russ69
    Russ69 18 July 2014 16: 55
    +3
    Malaysian airliner flew at a lower altitude at the request of Ukrainian flight controllers than its flight plan required

    MOSCOW, July 18 - RIA Novosti. A Malaysian airliner, at the request of Ukrainian air traffic controllers, flew at a lower altitude than its flight plan required, an airline spokesman said at a news conference in Amsterdam on Friday.

    According to company vice president Heyb Gorter, the flight plan provided for an altitude of 10,66 kilometers, but the pilots decreased at the request of controllers to 10,05 kilometers.

    РИА Новости http://ria.ru/world/20140718/1016582313.html#ixzz37p9nUC8f
    1. Lukich
      Lukich 18 July 2014 17: 32
      +6
      Quote: Russ69
      Malaysian airliner flew at a lower altitude at the request of Ukrainian flight controllers than its flight plan required

      Yes, and flew a little different route. here he was let down under the rocket
  44. although
    although 18 July 2014 16: 56
    +4
    They could not detain the spotters of fire, according to the latest intelligence:
    -Putin got drunk on vodka and caviar, played the "Song of the Chekists" on the balalaika, and then personally illuminated the Malaysian board from the Kremlin's Spasskaya Tower, the newest Chinese laser pointer secretly transmitted by Chinese separatists at the BRICS summit.

    These people never sleep.
    Our days are cloudless and clean
    Do not let them overshadow the enemy.
    And like our keen security officers
    We will always be on guard!
  45. MDR
    MDR 18 July 2014 16: 57
    +2
    With such stupidity, on the verge of moronism, it will be difficult for Russia to defend itself. All accusations will be written in the language of "Pssaki", which the top of "UKROPOV" skillfully mastered. There are two ways out. Either learn their language perfectly or eradicate it completely, i.e. exterminate all native speakers of the Pssaki language at the root.
  46. vlade99
    vlade99 18 July 2014 16: 58
    +2
    Looks like he is smoking a beech.
  47. B.T.V.
    B.T.V. 18 July 2014 16: 58
    +5
    The party in the madhouse went out of control of the medical staff.
  48. Roshchin
    Roshchin 18 July 2014 17: 02
    +6
    Disciplined Ukrainian border guards, while still alive and well, successfully do not let refugees cross the border into Russia, Russian citizens are either not allowed into Ukraine or detained on absurd charges. When pressed, the militias shoot back as much as they can. And when they already see their end, they are fleeing, as it turns out, to the Russian brothers to escape and to heal the wounds. And at the same time and wash and eat well. Then you can return to the Square again to continue serving the junta .. Sly and slippery guys.
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  50. Veteran of the Red Army
    Veteran of the Red Army 18 July 2014 17: 04
    +4
    Both have Russian passports, and one of them even thought of arriving with a military ID, where his military profession - a spotter of fire - was marked.



    Its leader gives the characteristic:
    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/594/wfbc909.jpg
    1. xana usa
      xana usa 18 July 2014 20: 35
      +1
      and with this right they enjoy and are satisfied successfully