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National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine: Su-25 attack aircraft of the Ukrainian Air Force was shot down by a Russian military aircraft

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On Thursday, a representative of the information center of the Council on National Security and Defense of Ukraine, Andrey Lysenko, said that a Russian military plane shot down the Su-25 attack aircraft of the Ukrainian Air Force, reports Interfax.

“July 16 ... a military aircraft of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation launched a missile attack on the Su-25 aircraft of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which performed tasks on the territory of Ukraine,” Lysenko said.

In turn, a senior representative of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation called the statements of the Ukrainian side absurd, said ITAR-TASS.

“This is absurd, like all previous accusations by the Kiev leadership against the Russian Defense Ministry. We are almost daily exposed with promises to submit “irrefutable evidence” in the near future. And every time these “evidences” disappear somewhere, and they cover up the embarrassment with new, even more phantasmagoric accusations, ”said the representative of the military department.

According to him, looking at the biographies of the Ukrainian military leadership, one can understand that these people do not have "neither military education, nor even practical experience in organizing the planning and combat use of the entrusted troops and weapon systems."

"Therefore, their" voivods "every time they cover up their lack of talent, which turns around hundreds of killed and thousands of wounded Ukrainian soldiers and civilians, by the actions of the Russian armed forces," said the representative of the Ministry of Defense.
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  1. mig31
    mig31 18 July 2014 07: 34
    +19
    Hello from psaki, Russia, prepare a ward for the sick ...
    1. Sid.74
      Sid.74 18 July 2014 07: 42
      +22
      Quote: mig31
      Hello from psaki, Russia, prepare a ward for the sick ...

      Oh, and it will be difficult to enclose North America with a concrete 20 fence, but we must do it!

      Yes, by the way about airplanes! what




      Apparently the Boeing shot himself! Muzychko shot himself, the inhabitants of Odessa set fire to themselves, the golden eagle shot themselves, militiamen in Lugansk from MANPADS also blew themselves up! In Snezhny, Donetsk, Lugansk, too, bombs were dropped on their heads. Well, how still... sad
      1. Baikal
        Baikal 18 July 2014 07: 44
        +14
        As an option - enclose the entire territory of the school. concrete floor.
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 18 July 2014 08: 23
        +7
        Quote: Sid.74
        Yes, by the way about airplanes!

        Hi Zhenya! They have everything on time and to the place wink
        17.07.14 17: 38In the National Security and Defense Council, terrorists have military equipment capable of shooting down aircraft at high altitudes
        In the National Security and Defense Council they declare that they have information on equipment which is at the disposal of fighters and can bring down planes at high altitude.
        1. Tersky
          Tersky 18 July 2014 08: 55
          +8
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          17.07.14 17: 38In the National Security and Defense Council, terrorists have military equipment capable of shooting down aircraft at high altitudes
          In the National Security and Defense Council they declare that they have information on equipment which is at the disposal of fighters and can bring down planes at high altitude.

          The paradox is that they themselves believe in their own nonsense. One gets the impression that for the next such throw @ Aries on the vintilator, Ukrainians are announcing a competition for the best glitch among patients with a blade for the mentally ill. Sanya, Zhenya, hi !
      3. Giant thought
        Giant thought 18 July 2014 08: 39
        +2
        Ukrainians again wishful thinking.
        1. Cynic
          Cynic 18 July 2014 11: 26
          0
          Quote: Thought Giant
          Ukrainians again wishful thinking.

          Now on TV, the recent statement by the Prosecutor General of Ukraine about the ABSENCE of Bukov rebels is constantly quoted.
          the left hand does not know what the right hand is doing.
      4. pahom54
        pahom54 18 July 2014 08: 41
        +4
        for Sid74
        Is it that, judging by the middle screen, SOMEONE ALREADY KNEW (??? !!!) IN ADVANCE that "litak full of Eurotourists" would be shot down ??? And "this will be a reason to invite NATO" ???
        1. Sid.74
          Sid.74 18 July 2014 08: 56
          +4
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Hi Zhenya! They have everything on time and to the place wink

          Oh, Alexander and don’t talk! Greetings! hi Etozh think of killing almost 300 people! What is it that the junta are so afraid of? I begin to believe that the victims of the ATU are 9000 thousand without civilians! If Russia engages in a war, everything will be written to us!

          Quote: pahom54
          for Sid74
          This is what, judging by the average screen, SOMEONE ALREADY KNEW (??? !!!)

          It seems that Yuri. The junta's information does not hold, hence numerous leaks! Many conscious citizens of the former Ukraine are conducting subversive activities against the junta on all fronts! They ate autonomy and independence on the very tomatoes! The next couple of days will be critical, possibly a direct collision with military units of NATO countries, the first contenders for suicide Poland and Lithuania, possibly Romania!
      5. Rock2
        Rock2 18 July 2014 09: 38
        +2
        Where "Vesti KPSS" time is 7:45 in the afternoon, and the plane disappeared from the radar at 5:21 in the afternoon. Whoever wrote this could already have known about the shootdown or not?
        1. Stanislas
          Stanislas 18 July 2014 12: 03
          0
          Quote: Rock2
          Where "Vesti KPSS" time is 7:45 pm, and the plane disappeared from the radar at 5:21 pm.
          "Vesti KPSS" came out a month earlier, they were for June 17th.
    2. nvv
      nvv 18 July 2014 07: 44
      +5
      And at the helm sat Bezler sat. And to be honest, I would like to dill Lysenko was not mistaken.
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 18 July 2014 08: 07
        +4
        Quote: nvv
        And to be honest, I would like to dill Lysenko was not mistaken.

        What for do you want the third world? Americans no longer know how to arrange a war! What a nasty thing to think of! To introduce us to Ukraine and to arrange a mini-Afghanistan for us! Now you understand that the USA has no time at all! Such idiotic steps are already dancing in a frying pan! Throwing flies in a spider web! And as they were wrong who shouted - Putin, send troops! The troops will be but later!
        1. Alexss
          Alexss 18 July 2014 08: 32
          -5
          You already decide the third world or second Afghanistan! they will start the third world war in any case and better now than later when we have run out of reserves since the times of the USSR, and by that time they will arm their satellites in Europe
          1. Sid.74
            Sid.74 18 July 2014 09: 06
            +1
            Quote: AlexSS
            You already decide the third world or second Afghanistan!

            World War III through mini-Afghanistan in Ukraine! But I hope it won’t reach the third! Now either break the buck or go to war! The junta has no time, they won’t last until the fall! So they take extremely stupid and desperate steps like a downed Boeing! I’m thinking , I still have the city in 30-ke the first nuclear goals or not! crying
            1. Alexss
              Alexss 18 July 2014 10: 03
              +1
              1. a mini-Afghanistan will not have almost 3/4 of the population in Ukraine simply amorphous, in a direct confrontation on both sides only 10% take part, another 15% just surf the Internet and assent and the likelihood that they will take up arms and go to war is extremely low.
              2. The downed Boeing is needed as a pretext for bringing in a "peacekeeping" contingent, and in the near future we will get a well-equipped NATO base near our borders
              1. Cynic
                Cynic 18 July 2014 11: 43
                0
                Quote: AlexSS
                2. Downed Boeing is needed as a pretext for bringing in a "peacekeeping" contingent

                Well, yes, yes, the Russian Federation in the Security Council will vote FOR!
                Yusovtsy accepted Ukraine into their allies, without membership in NATO.
                Well, right on time!
          2. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 18 July 2014 10: 41
            +2
            Quote: AlexSS
            they’ll start World War III anyway and better now than later when we’ll run out of reserves since the times of the USSR,

            Enough of the reserves already, nothing was left of them.
        2. nvv
          nvv 18 July 2014 09: 58
          +1
          Yes, I understand everything. But I want to !!!!
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 18 July 2014 08: 21
        +6
        Russians are to blame for everything !!!

        The Marinovka border post was fired by rocket artillery from the territory of Russia, - the National Security and Defense Council
        The rocket artillery from which the shelling was carried out was located on Russian territory in the vicinity of the village of Repyakhovaty, Rostov Region


        Source in the Ministry of Defense: Malaysian "Boeing" was shot down by Russian air defense. Ukraine will present evidence

        And so on and so forth, well, their in ****
        1. Tersky
          Tersky 18 July 2014 09: 12
          +4
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          The Marinovka border post was fired by rocket artillery from the territory of Russia, - the National Security and Defense Council
          The rocket artillery from which the shelling was carried out was located on Russian territory in the vicinity of the village of Repyakhovaty, Rostov Region

          Source in the Ministry of Defense: Malaysian "Boeing" was shot down by Russian air defense. Ukraine will present evidence

          Sasha, and Prosenko continued- “I just had telephone conversations with US President Barack Obama, the Prime Ministers of Malaysia and the Netherlands, the countries whose passengers were most affected by the attacks. It's a shame that the terrorists have already announced their desire to hide the ends in the water and take out the flight recorder, the so-called black box, to Moscow.

          Unfortunately, today's tragedy once again proved that terrorism is not a local, but a global problem. And external aggression against Ukraine is not only our problem, it is a threat to European and global security. Overcoming it requires joint efforts.

          After the effective actions of the Ukrainian army, mercenaries and their "elder brother" are increasingly resorting to undisguised military operations against our state. Ukrainian territory is fired from the territory of a neighboring country, planes are shot down, professional personnel and modern military equipment are supplied. Hybrid warfare takes on undeniable signs of external aggression. But we must know that in recent weeks, thanks to the courage, heroism, and valor of thousands of our citizens, our soldiers, the territory controlled by terrorists, bandits, and foreign mercenaries has decreased by more than half.

          Today, every citizen of Ukraine is fighting for independence, sovereignty, territorial integrity.

          Today, the whole world has seen the true face of the aggressor, because the downing of a peaceful aircraft is an act of international terrorism directed against the whole world.

          This is a challenge for the whole world and the decisive will of our people and the unbending spirit of the Ukrainian army will certainly lead to victory!

          Glory to Ukraine!"
          - said in a published appeal Poroshenko.http: //www.politnavigator.net/poroshenko-peregovoriv-s-obamojj-opublik
          oval-ehkstrennoe-nochnoe-obrashhenie.html
          1. Sid.74
            Sid.74 18 July 2014 09: 43
            +1
            Quote: Tersky
            Prosenko continued, “I just had telephone conversations with US President Barack Obama, the Prime Ministers of Malaysia and the Netherlands, the countries whose passengers were most affected by the attacks. It's a shame that the terrorists have already announced their desire to hide the ends in the water and take out the flight recorder , the so-called black box, to Moscow.

            Unfortunately, today's tragedy once again proved that terrorism is not a local, but a global problem. And external aggression against Ukraine is not only our problem, it is a threat to European and global security. Overcoming it requires joint efforts.


            Greetings, Victor! How I want the air conditioning to start on the junta! From the words they already feel sick!
            Comrades, you won’t believe it! Another plane crashed yesterday!

            On Thursday evening, in the Cherkasy region of Ukraine, a light-engine plane hit the power line, fell on a corn field and caught fire. His pilot died, reports UNN. The tragedy occurred just two hours after the crash of the Boeing 777 Malaysia Airlines near Donetsk, on board of which there were 298 people.
            18 July 2014, 09: 14

            “Near the village. Belashki Talnovsky district at 19 o'clock. 15 minutes. On July 17, the pilot of the private, light-engine Bekas X-32 plane, having lowered the plane to a dangerous height, touched the power line, as a result of which the plane fell into the corn field of Luch JSC and caught fire, ”the message says.
            Original article: http://russian.rt.com/article/41414#ixzz37nLPeVFI

            I have no doubt for a second! Putin personally flunked him! wassat
          2. Rock2
            Rock2 18 July 2014 09: 49
            +2
            That s.uka! After the defeats of his army, he is preparing the ground for the entry of NATO troops! No wonder three airfields in Ukraine are being restored. Preparing to receive guests from NATO. Just u.rody, but talking about the world ...
          3. pensioner
            pensioner 18 July 2014 11: 57
            0
            Quote: Tersky
            Prosenko continued

            You look how you started singing ... Here's WHAT else the Ukrainian junta must do so that in Europe (at least in Europe ...) they finally understand that adventurers who came to power in Kiev are mortally dangerous for everyone on the European continent, without exception.
    3. vladimirZ
      vladimirZ 18 July 2014 07: 51
      +8
      It is necessary not only to shoot and keep records of the "shot down" fascist planes, but also to keep records of the destroyed or at least isolated in captivity parcels.
      Pilots prepare a multi-year process. You can make or buy an airplane, but harder to prepare the flyers. And therefore it is impossible to return captured prisoners to dill of Bandera.
      I am waiting for the reptile of the former Belbekov commander Mamchur to fail. This banderlet can bring a lot of trouble if it is not landed.
      1. Revolver
        Revolver 18 July 2014 08: 20
        +2
        Quote: vladimirZ
        I'm waiting for the reptile of the former Belbekov commander Mamchur to fail

        It is unlikely. People like him do not fly, but lead. And substitute his ass for MANPADS - so he has someone to send instead of himself good.
    4. Akvadra
      Akvadra 18 July 2014 08: 00
      +7
      Quote: mig31
      Hello from psaki, Russia, prepare a ward for the sick ...

      Yesterday I was surprised that the dog did not howl at once about Russia's guilt in the death of the Boeing, but in its own way, said that it didn’t know nichrome. Whether, however, an idiot, Toli knows for sure that this is the work of dill with the filing of amers.
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 18 July 2014 08: 10
        +3
        Quote: Akvadra
        Whether, however, an idiot, Toli knows for sure that this is the work of dill with the filing of amers.

        She is of course a clowness and actress, but not a fool!
      2. Bort radist
        Bort radist 18 July 2014 08: 39
        +2
        Quote: Akvadra
        . Whether, however, an idiot, Toli knows for sure that this is the work of dill with the filing of amers.

        We thought it was ideological, it was just dumb.
      3. Revolver
        Revolver 18 July 2014 09: 00
        +2
        Quote: Akvadra
        Yesterday I was surprised that psaka did not howl immediately about Russia's guilt in the death of a Boeing, but in her own way, she said that doesn't know nichrome .

        In fact, she said this not about the guilt of anyone, but about the presence of US citizens on board. I heard her speech not in translation or retelling, but in the original.
    5. Balamyt
      Balamyt 18 July 2014 08: 17
      +1
      Ward number 6 is always ready!
  2. fedor13
    fedor13 18 July 2014 07: 35
    +4
    The unpunished yaponkore was already completely tired.
  3. Yaks
    Yaks 18 July 2014 07: 35
    +10
    Yes .... at the helm of the plane of the Russian Air Force personally GDP was sitting. .... And how do you like ...? This is not a shanezhka from the grave to rub for you ...
    1. aleks_29296
      aleks_29296 18 July 2014 08: 47
      +1

      яков Today, 07:35 ↓

      Yes .... at the helm of the plane of the Russian Air Force personally GDP was sitting. .... And how do you like ...?
      Well, it’s not for nothing that GDP used to be trained on a fighter. And then with fighting Siberian Cranes. So for any fault.
      And Putin somehow dived behind amphorae with a scuba gear, so the Amer fleet was shaking.
  4. inkass_98
    inkass_98 18 July 2014 07: 36
    +1
    Yes, this button of Ukrainian dill has been stretching for two days already, it would be possible not to publish this nonsense, especially stale.
  5. Baloo
    Baloo 18 July 2014 07: 37
    +12
    Stop jumping and eating fat. Get down to business, dill Yo ...
  6. kodxnumx
    kodxnumx 18 July 2014 07: 37
    +3
    Exactly! There is a saying that the eggs always hinder a bad dancer, and someone is always to blame for the military junta in Kiev.
    1. Bort radist
      Bort radist 18 July 2014 09: 01
      +2
      Quote: kod3001
      There is a saying that bad eggs always interfere with a bad dancer,

      Bad dancer always bothers. wassat
  7. Turbo rabbit
    Turbo rabbit 18 July 2014 07: 37
    +7
    And even if our plane was shot down, then what? So how can you throw shells into the Rostov region and not be responsible for what you have done, so you can? In general, my version: "Pilot Su 25, grossly violated the air border of the Russian Federation, with the aim of destroying a luxury ski resort in the Rostov region."
    1. Stanislas
      Stanislas 18 July 2014 12: 10
      0
      Quote: Turbo-Rabbit
      with the aim of destroying a fashionable ski resort in the Rostov region.
      Really in the Mines? Here are the infections ...
  8. Lyton
    Lyton 18 July 2014 07: 37
    0
    Yes, of course, who else had to bring him down, the current air force of the Russian Federation.
  9. project sity
    project sity 18 July 2014 07: 37
    +5
    According to him, looking at the biographies of the Ukrainian military leadership, one can understand that these people do not have "neither military education, nor even practical experience in organizing the planning and combat use of the entrusted troops and weapon systems."
    But where does the experience come from? They will recruit dummies into the army, and in this case, which president is such an army!
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 18 July 2014 10: 07
      0
      yes, don’t tell me ... the president is just an inveterate bandit guy =)
      in early June they wrote: http://topwar.ru/50256-portrety-veka-petr-poroshenko-valcman.html
      and here's another one: http://topwar.ru/49058-i-oruzhie-i-prostitutki-i-narkota-ili-petr-poroshenko.htm
      l
  10. venzim
    venzim 18 July 2014 07: 38
    +5
    Oh, this Russia
  11. leglun
    leglun 18 July 2014 07: 38
    +1
    It was not a Russian plane, but a Novorossiysk plane. They simply did not consider the coat of arms on the plane.
  12. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 18 July 2014 07: 38
    +11
    And how else can they explain to their people why the armed army is running them to the teeth, and combat aircraft are streaming from the sky, losing feathers?
    Few will believe in aliens, but "evil Muscovites" - here they are.
    1. Alexei
      Alexei 18 July 2014 07: 48
      +5
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      And how else can they explain to their people why the armed army is running them to the teeth,
      According to them, the ATO is fighting exclusively with the Russian special forces. And the whistleblowers from the censor caught one militia in the "thunder" special forces service, although the photo was from the back, but the Ukrainians do not pay attention to such trifles at the censor.
      1. engineer74
        engineer74 18 July 2014 08: 28
        0
        Quote: Alexej
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        And how else can they explain to their people why the armed army is running them to the teeth,
        According to them, the ATO is fighting exclusively with the Russian special forces. And the whistleblowers from the censor caught one militia in the "thunder" special forces service, although the photo was from the back, but the Ukrainians do not pay attention to such trifles at the censor.

        I am ready to believe the "Censor", although they were a little mistaken, the "Thunder" special unit really exists, the full name is "JW Grom" military unit 2305 POLAND (approximately analogous to our "Alpha"), and to confuse which side a person is fighting for "Censor" "forgivable. smile
    2. Cynic
      Cynic 18 July 2014 07: 52
      +14
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Few will believe in aliens, but "evil Muscovites" - here they are.

      Don’t tell me, how beautiful and meaningfully _ Shot down by a Flying Object (LO) would soundgreen men !!!
      And everything is immediately clear about whom the conversation is, and then there is no need to justify the lack of evidence!
      No really sorry that about the green men are silent!
      In general, they don’t even know how to lie, there’s nothing to fight! Clinic, MDA, more precisely the hospital _
      1. nvv
        nvv 18 July 2014 08: 03
        +1
        Join? tongue Only after you.
      2. Stanislas
        Stanislas 18 July 2014 12: 30
        0
        Quote: Cynic
        it’s a pity that they are silent about the green men!
        Little vodka.
  13. vrach
    vrach 18 July 2014 07: 39
    +6
    Strange Ukrainians, took up tugs do not say that not a dozen. They want a fight and do not want to negotiate. Or prove that the fighter or not climb. And to climb and whine the last thing, they will beat more ... for meanness.
    1. Stanislas
      Stanislas 18 July 2014 12: 33
      0
      Quote: vrach
      They want a fight and do not want to negotiate.
      What they are told because of a big puddle, they "want".
  14. astapminus
    astapminus 18 July 2014 07: 39
    +2
    as the saying goes "neither mind nor fantasy", but these urkov have no mind BUT fantasies ...
  15. sv68
    sv68 18 July 2014 07: 39
    +2
    Behind a rotten bazaar, it’s time for the ukropsykhs mugs to cheer up-cheer up fool
  16. Shadow1
    Shadow1 18 July 2014 07: 43
    +3
    To be a good liar, you need to have at least three heads: the first to lie, the second to remember what you already lied about, and the third to get it for lying when you were bitten.
  17. Marconi41
    Marconi41 18 July 2014 07: 46
    0
    Well, we (Russia) are also not bastard! At one time, some "unknown" MIG-29 shot down a Georgian drone ... the whole world saw footage of the last agony of this aircraft. And before that, an unmarked SU-25 mined one very mysterious gorge in Georgia. (Who knows the topic and its name). Now the Ukrainian pepelats has come under the distribution of an unknown plane. Probably in the Ministry of Defense it is necessary not to give a refutation, but to keep quiet about it. They say we don't know. How the Israelis do it.
  18. ivanfly
    ivanfly 18 July 2014 07: 46
    +2
    Krostrategov has flies in his head. For them, war is - PAINTBALL! ... The remains of the country were filled with blood, raging with powerlessness in Satanic malice.
    1. I am proud of Russia
      I am proud of Russia 18 July 2014 08: 36
      +1
      That's for sure. It is good to manage a war from a computer like Avakov ... and whoever does not want to fight against their own people can be at an expense for not agreeing with the policy of the junta. Parashanko will go down in history as a "bloody president" who opened Pandora's box ... if only people would see their sight in Ukraine, those who believe that their soldiers are at war with Russia. And how will the children of parashenko live when the whole truth comes out, and it will come out without any doubt "you can't hide a sewing in a sack." In general, of course, nonsense ... in the 21st century, such a Middle Ages is going on, and besides, fratricide.
  19. Kirzhak
    Kirzhak 18 July 2014 07: 47
    +1
    T-50 tests entered a new phase?)))
  20. Ogogoshka
    Ogogoshka 18 July 2014 07: 50
    +1
    Is the T-50 in work
    1. pomegranate
      pomegranate 18 July 2014 08: 01
      +1
      It would be great soldier angry
  21. Dbnfkmtdbx
    Dbnfkmtdbx 18 July 2014 07: 52
    +2
    WELL REPRESENTING FOR SECONDS RUSSIA INTRODUCED A MILITARY YES YET IN THIS SECOND SHOULDER HIHLAM PI C WILL COME TO WHICH PUSHING RUSSIA IS FUNNY WITH LOCAL PATRIOTS FightING CAN NOT CONTACT FROM RUSSIAN ARMENIA fool
  22. Truth
    Truth 18 July 2014 07: 52
    +6
    If the old man Sigmud Freud had rebelled and ended up in Ukraine now, he would have written the third, fourth and fifth volumes of "Psychoanalysis" in a week using the available material.
    1. fedor13
      fedor13 18 July 2014 08: 06
      +2
      I'm afraid he himself was taken away to Durkee. And for meanness no other definitions are needed.
  23. nivander
    nivander 18 July 2014 07: 55
    +1
    present your evidence
  24. den848
    den848 18 July 2014 07: 56
    +1
    Maidan Dill
  25. ybrcfy27
    ybrcfy27 18 July 2014 07: 56
    +2
    We either shot down this unfortunate plane from our territory with air defense, or we attacked it with a plane, they will soon begin to speak like Georgians: the Russians drove all their air defense and all their air forces from all their borders to bring down our herooy salolet wassat
  26. event
    event 18 July 2014 07: 58
    +2
    it seems their cartridges gave them the order to bring everything to an absurdity (following the example of the psaki).
    1. Stanislas
      Stanislas 18 July 2014 12: 41
      0
      Quote: Event
      order to bring everything to an absurdity (following the example of the psaki)
      so that people in fear clutch at a straw made at the Roshen factory.
  27. shishakova
    shishakova 18 July 2014 08: 01
    +2
    Either there are no professionals in the Ukrainian Army, or "brutal ideas" to destroy their brothers are to blame.
    But the fact is that the Ukrainian Army suffers heavy losses in a war with a weaker "enemy".
    So Mr. Poroshenko has long lost his war.
  28. ArhipenkoAndrey
    ArhipenkoAndrey 18 July 2014 08: 03
    +2
    Unprofessionalism in military affairs and politics is justified by the actions of insidious Russians and constantly SOMETHING (read the European partners, the United States already knows) are convinced of this, they always have someone to blame, they don’t want to understand that the cretins themselves and the country should not be developed with civil war and with industrialization and agricultural restoration is an axiom, but here it is clear that these fascists do not need a nafig, some role is played by debiloid law enforcement officers and other Svidomo people, and how they will be executed and declared terrorists (as it is now in May inflated) or FSB agents, and also quietly convey, here you have free land, you can give debts.
  29. kelevra
    kelevra 18 July 2014 08: 06
    +1
    The clear answer of our military, dill should be stopped with any garbage!
  30. koksalek
    koksalek 18 July 2014 08: 10
    +3
    The worse things are in dill, the more dill "generalchiki" theirs smoke the weed. By the way, have there been any statements about the insidiousness of the Russians in conspiracy with aliens against poor dill? Well, like they poured some disgusting dill and now it rots and does not grow
  31. rpek32
    rpek32 18 July 2014 08: 11
    +1
    found comrades on the net
    http://news.liga.net/articles/politics/2563717-rossiyskaya_armiya_bet_gradom_cht
    o_proiskodit_na_granitse.htm


    From arms deliveries and mercenaries, Putin's Russia switched to direct military aggression in the Donbass. The goal is obvious - not to allow the Ukrainian army to organize a deep defense of the state border. Over the past day, units of the Russian army invaded Ukraine several times and opened fire from multiple launch rocket launchers. A part operated from the territory of Ukraine, a part - fired from the territory of Russia, and another part fired at the Ukrainian army from the zero zone between the borders of Ukraine and Russia.

    1. Cynic
      Cynic 18 July 2014 11: 48
      0
      Impressive especially _
      and another part fired at the Ukrainian army from the zero zone between the borders Ukraine and Russia.
  32. Denka
    Denka 18 July 2014 08: 18
    +1
    Quote: mig31
    Hello from psaki, Russia, prepare a ward for the sick ...

    For them on Magadan, the tent camp has long been deployed! wink
  33. cat hippopotamus
    cat hippopotamus 18 July 2014 08: 34
    +1
    Dill completely branded, I won’t be surprised if the Dutch Boeing hanged on us.
  34. fridge
    fridge 18 July 2014 08: 36
    +2
    Falsehood and, again, a lie uttered by Svidomo, convinces that they can not be trusted. When this ukro-heresy will end.
  35. darksoul
    darksoul 18 July 2014 08: 36
    +2
    Everything is clear, the Ukrainians on the forum have already investigated everything, here is the data from their radars, the Russians uniquely shot down https://vine.co/v/MQ6mtpj3iae

    question. What do you need to have in your head to believe in it? it's agony
  36. novel68rus
    novel68rus 18 July 2014 08: 40
    +1
    it’s not only another provocation ... but also an attempt to blame their failures in Russia in the east ... in fact, Ukrainians don’t want to fight but go there under pain of criminal cases .. only national-armed people and lawless people fight there .. now there’s a passenger plane shot down that the militias to blame .. the states of course will confirm this and there will be a reason for NATO intervention ...
  37. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 18 July 2014 08: 40
    +1
    National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine: Su-25 attack aircraft of the Ukrainian Air Force was shot down by a Russian military aircraft

    And it would be true, we would not be upset! For two weeks now, locals have been seeing airplanes flying into Russia!
  38. Committee
    Committee 18 July 2014 08: 43
    +1
    Well, Boeing is the burning of the Reichstag or the murder of the Archduke.
  39. alex47russ
    alex47russ 18 July 2014 09: 01
    0
    It's time! It's time! Fascist geeks, give a big, big, big one! So that flew to his yo ... oh America! Nits!
  40. suomi
    suomi 18 July 2014 09: 01
    0
    Meditate:

    http://voicesevas.ru/news/yugo-vostok/2961-sbityy-malayziyskiy-boing-777-post-ob
    novlyaetsya.html
  41. morprepud
    morprepud 18 July 2014 09: 03
    0
    mig31 (1) RU Today, 07:34 New
    Hello from psaki, Russia, prepare a ward for the sick ...
    The chamber is ready! Russia will collect and send them in one box to the address: shapentagon, head physician.
  42. Matt
    Matt 18 July 2014 09: 12
    0
    He answered well, correctly with humor.
  43. Thompson
    Thompson 18 July 2014 09: 35
    0
    Nothing will happen. Everything worked clumsily! Make a noise and give up. If it was a provocation, they would have been preparing for it and now they have bombarded us with incriminating evidence. And then the usual verbal diarrhea. It's just that someone in the wrong direction pressed a button or something went wrong. We are waiting for an investigation. More precisely, who will conduct it!