Olga Tuhanina: Ukraine is no more

Olga Tuhanina: Ukraine is no more

Heroes not glory? And in the snout you do not want? Enemies poplyashut friends will rejoice. However, it is an ordinary holiday of disobedience. Anything but a state. Imagine? He is not here. It is dead. There is no. Vacuum.

Although the controversy with our non-brethren in the expanses of the World Wide Web has almost withered, leaving only the place of mutual insults, from what ordinary Ukrainian users say, it seems that they absolutely do not understand what is happening under their nose. Trying to cling to any comparison that seems successful to them (“but you are in Chechnya,” “but Israel and Palestine,” “we protect Europe from hordes as we once saved it from fascism”), people will not understand simple fact: no Ukraine exists anymore. They no longer have a state.

In such a misunderstanding, the main root of the problems. People look around themselves somewhere in Kiev and think that nothing, in general, has happened. No bombs are falling on their heads, young people are walking, shops are working, vehicles are walking, the president is selected. Only some troublemakers in the East spoil the blissful picture of the European choice. To finish the troublemaker, to build a wall on the border with Russia, and in general come good health.

In some ways they are right. The land under their feet has not gone away. Neighbors, out, in the morning greet. There is no state. What is a state? His own hands can not touch.

And the state is the very social contract embodied in both public and private regulations. A complex system of institutions, including, of course, the famous apparatus of violence, acting strictly within certain limits and according to certain rules.

Rome, for example, has not gone anywhere. You can go see the Colosseum. But the Roman Empire has not existed for a long time. Italians may consider themselves heirs, but they live in a completely different state, which historical by standards without a year a week - took shape only at the end of the 19th century.

Ukrainians themselves proudly say that a revolution has taken place in their country. But the revolution is just breaking the state. Destroys it to the ground. The constitution turns into empty paper. And if the basic law is on its side, then all the others burn with it.

From the state machine, from the whole complex of tedious and bureaucratic procedures, nothing remains. Why follow the procedure? Let's do it the way we want: let's set up extra deputies from the Rada, put on the constitution, on the regulations, on everything. We will be guided in everyday life by a revolutionary sense of justice and five slogans.

Heroes not glory? And in the snout you do not want? Enemies poplyashut friends will rejoice. However, it is an ordinary holiday of disobedience. Anything but a state. Imagine? He is not here. It is dead. There is no. Neither fascist nor Nazi. Vacuum.

Our president tried to explain this to the Ukrainians in a very mild form. He directly said that we need appropriate procedures that would allow to restart the social contract. Constituent Assembly, referendum, adoption of a new constitution, simultaneous elections of all elected bodies. Tedious job.

However, in order to perceive all this, we need an appropriate conceptual apparatus. Ukrainian elite simply does not have it. About citizens and say nothing. Therefore, they constantly utter some words, and only soap bubbles fly out of their mouths.

Words mean nothing. Terrorists, separatists - Bob, Bob. What can be separatists in the territory in which there is no state? From what they fall away? This Chechens were separatists. And in the legal desert there can be no separatism. Exclusively the right of the strong.

Therefore, of course, if impostors from Kiev succeed in crushing the militia in the East, this very second the next stage of squabbling and mutual devouring will begin. That is the logic of the process. Under Yanukovych, it was possible to call Ukraine a state insolvent and unsuccessful. Such definitions also need to be earned. No wonder Somalia is offended by comparison with Ukraine, because Somalia is, and Ukraine is not.

True, here it must be said that there are no any so-called people's republics. They have exactly the same status as the Kiev authorities. The same impostors. They also have to do all the boring procedures to launch state mechanisms. In the meantime, they have everything slyapano on the knee: rather, faster, military time - so come down. Not coming, of course. Until they start the really necessary processes, they will not be able to win.

Maydannye rides with yellow-blue flags and screams "Glory to Ukraine!", Thus, only postpone the possible prospect of creating at least some state in the place of the former Ukraine. At least, what kind of regalia hang around, at least in what the UN do not sit, and you do not have a state. As long as there is no awareness of this, it is useless to talk about something with the neighbors.

Any arbitrary ten people can come up with their own coat of arms, anthem, flag, buy shotguns, choose the president. This will be modern Ukraine. It will be included in the "Wikipedia" in the section "virtual states" somewhere near the Sealand. What kind of agreements can we talk about, what kind of gas? Well, you would have concluded contracts with five-year-olds.

The only tragedy is that the evil and cruel children from the virtual country have real hands in their hands. Tanks and airplanes. And a real desire to kill.
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  1. +26
    18 July 2014 07: 21
    Ukraine may not be there, but the bandits and the lessons with a bunch of weapons are piled up, and until their Southeast calms down (and no one else is going to do this) this crowd will spoil the bloodlines of people, and not only in Russia!
    1. +3
      18 July 2014 07: 41
      Quote: VNP1958PVN
      but the bandits and urks with a bunch of weapons, heaps,

      I would compare them with Krylov's "Monkey and Glasses", like everything is with her, but they don't know what to do with it, remember where Strelkov started, hunting rifles and trophy three-line and Degtyarevs, but remember how tanks with bare hands? and now, tanks, armored personnel carriers, anti-tank weapons? so about the same.
      1. +4
        18 July 2014 08: 13
        The fact that Ukraine is no longer there, I wrote back in February:
        Canep SU February 21, 2014 15:18 p.m. | The Constitution of Ukraine will be reformed by September 2014

        Quote: Grenader
        Now, it is unlikely to be able to keep Ukraine in the sphere of influence of Russia
        I think it’s true my opinion that you can already forget about Ukraine. EVERYTHING IS NOT MORE THAN UKRAINE !!!. What will form on its fragments time will tell. It may be something like this:

        4-goda.html # comment-id-1976197
        1. +3
          18 July 2014 08: 15
          Sergey, no offense, Vajra wrote about this 10 years ago.
          1. +1
            18 July 2014 15: 55
            that evil and cruel children from a virtual country have real tanks and planes in their hands

        2. vitalich57
          18 July 2014 09: 56
          I agree, only without our Crimea
        3. 0
          18 July 2014 14: 14
          why in February, you wrote a week ago:
          I served Russian as a conscript in the army of Kazakhstan and therefore I can not get Russian citizenship
      2. +3
        18 July 2014 08: 41
        Quote: seller trucks
        Quote: VNP1958PVN
        but the bandits and urks with a bunch of weapons, heaps,

        I would compare them with Krylov's "Monkey and Glasses", like everything is with her, but they don't know what to do with it, remember where Strelkov started, hunting rifles and trophy three-line and Degtyarevs, but remember how tanks with bare hands? and now, tanks, armored personnel carriers, anti-tank weapons? so about the same.

        A more accurate comparison is a monkey with a grenade. And it looks like the monkey has already pulled out a check, but does not understand what will happen next.
      3. +4
        18 July 2014 08: 52
        In fact, to a simple (and in the conditions of the existing dill, let’s say even low-lying) layman, it really does not matter how it is in general: the state is non-state; whether there is legitimate authority or not; the corresponding state and general institutions work or do not shy. The main thing is that while everything is not going badly, after all, in Kuev, kindergartens and schools and hospitals and other infrastructure are functioning. Pensions, salaries and benefits are paid and they are enough for some specific needs. In general, everything is not bad so far. It is just that Ukrainians have not yet understood the full effect of the collapse of the state and the existence of a territorial pseudo-political entity. Now, when the trouble really catches everyone personally, then they might think about it, although Russia will again be to blame for it and Putin himself, who stole all the syringes from the hospitals, dismantled the school desks and ruined the cribs in the manger, and what did he do with all paper hryvnia and generally uncivilized to describe
      4. 0
        19 July 2014 12: 49
        Unfortunately, everything is not so blissful, first of all, we must not forget about the huge potential that is in the hands of the junta, these are material reserves, warehouses, repair plants, arsenals, the junta throws all available funds to increase military potential, aviation and armored vehicles are removed from storage , taking advantage of a huge advantage in armored forces, wrecked tanks and armored personnel carriers are evacuated and restored, aid from the west is almost undisguised, the second tranche of the IMF is here, the first has already gone to war, heavy artillery from Poland has already arrived, the remaining weapons from the USSR in NATO countries, if did not begin to arrive, then on the way. In these conditions, the forces of Novorossiya, experiencing a huge deficit in weapons and equipment, are not able to move to decisive actions to eliminate those who have broken through and got stuck in the "cauldrons", moreover, they pose a significant threat, being the bridgeheads of the militias located in the depths of the defense, " Boeing "was dropped for many reasons, one of them is that now no one pays attention, in the so-called world community, to the barbaric shelling and bombing of civilians. There is nothing to make up for the lost time, the war is bloody and the desired superiority of the militia is not yet visible. The struggle is still ahead.
    2. +15
      18 July 2014 08: 12
      "Ukraine" as a single state should no longer exist.
      The genocide that the Svidomo xoxly unleashed against the Russian population of their pseudo-state, the historical territory of Novorossia, gives Novorossia the right, within its former borders from Kharkov to Odessa regions, to withdraw from the "Ukraine".
      "Mockalyaku on Gilyaku" gives this right, to leave the New Russia from Ukraine forever, following the example of the Crimea.
      It is impossible to live in a state in which the "state-forming" people for centuries have been glorifying Svidomo nationalism, conducting a violent "Ukrainization" of other peoples.
      1. Andy1967
        18 July 2014 12: 31
        Ukraine, as a single state, in any case, will no longer exist. Already the most implacable enemies of Russia have agreed with the Crimea as part of the Russian Federation (except for the Americans ...) And the "Bandera" cannot overcome Novorossia without options. They are so every day, but not once amaze with their stupidity in all matters, both state and military. And all sorts of Poles, Austrians, already razzinuv "Wishlist" on the western lands are coming out, now they will not lag behind. Who will stop them? - a porridge with an egg-scent? ... So the only intrigue is how many parts the land of "Svidomo" will eventually be split into ...
    3. +3
      18 July 2014 11: 10
      The gangster gang in Ukraine has reached power and is creating chaos, but nothing, Novorossia will get stronger and sweep away all evil spirits with a filthy broom.
      1. +2
        18 July 2014 14: 17
        And it all started so well! With the collapse of the USSR, Ukrainians got the fattest and tidbit: a territory with highly developed industry and agriculture, with rich natural resources. But the leadership ordered all this in its own way - they began to plunder the economy, and in order to distract the population from this process, different groups of this population began to set on each other. The result is what we have now.
      2. mkpu 73-77
        19 July 2014 00: 42
        To sweep away this evil spirits, one must first gain strength (everything is in order with the spirit). One must become a full-fledged state with all the relying on attribute-institutions. Otherwise, it turns out that two principalities are fighting, both without even internal generally accepted rules.
        To become a state, it is not enough to fill the face of a neighbor-unchallenger.
  2. +7
    18 July 2014 07: 21
    Ukraine is no more.
    On the border with Russia, the kingdom of the beyond-European elves of Schenevmerla.
    True, they are not allowed to go to Ivropa to shoot with all the available rags ...
  3. +8
    18 July 2014 07: 23
    ".. The tragedy is that evil and cruel children from a virtual country have real tanks and planes in their hands. And a real desire to kill."

    A figurative, precise expression. But do not forget that these children have parents who continue to produce evil.
    1. +3
      18 July 2014 08: 13
      Poor folly is for a long time, and for 23 years they have not become richer in mind, because parents are like this -
      Mom bought a conic, and a conic without a leg!
      Yaka Chudova igrashka, GI ........ GI-GI!
      Mom bought a conic, and a conic without a leg!
      Yaka Tsikawa igrashka GI .......... Gi-GI!

      Mom bought
      Men horse
      Ale hind legs of a new dumb man,
      But what’s the deputy’s foot at Ny’s budo,
      About the price of nichols do not recognize nihto.

      This is what they have today ...
  4. +9
    18 July 2014 07: 23
    There was no Ukraine, the euphoria of independence should have ended sooner or later, it would be easier to see the litter of the State Department to be than a proud and independent country ...
  5. +12
    18 July 2014 07: 25
    How to call a nation that did not care about their heroes and prays for antiheroes. They would rather erect a monument to Betman and Robin than Taras Shevchenko. If there is no history, then there is no country. And Ukrainians gloriously ruined their history. am
  6. +11
    18 July 2014 07: 35
    here it must be said that there are no so-called people's republics. They have exactly the same status as the Kiev authorities. The same impostors. They also have to go through all the boring procedures to launch state mechanisms.

    The girl writes absolutely correctly. Here I absolutely agree - this is a response to the cries of Russia’s non-recognition of Novorossia in general and the DPR and LPR in particular. I have already written more than once that there is no one to recognize, there is no such state, they pull too much with the creation of state institutions. The borders of New Russia were only announced this week, and the referendum was three months ago. And so it is in everything else. It is necessary to work intensively on state-building, finance, social programs, industry and everything else, since there will be help in this. But they should do it themselves, and not a good uncle from behind a hill.
  7. +12
    18 July 2014 07: 36
    There are no more seashores, the trace has caught a cold from the oaks, the Oak is suitable for parquet, because there is no - Hefty goons came out of the hut, Chopped all the oaks into coffins ...

    Vysotsky V.S.
  8. +10
    18 July 2014 07: 37
    Well, she died so she died, then we just have to at least take our lands back, and let the tenants knock over into their EU and return all the debts.
    1. mkpu 73-77
      19 July 2014 01: 02
      The fact that the lands in the east of Ukraine and the entire Black Sea region are in general Russian is undeniable!
      But the fact that then we simply have to at least take back our lands, and let the tenants fall into their EU and return all the debts. - There’s still a scratch to it.
  9. +11
    18 July 2014 07: 40
    I agree with the author that there is no longer such a state as Ukraine.
    There are specific principalities given under the rule of oligarchs. There is a galloping folk with extremist screams, there is an unjustified exaltation of oneself as a nation, there is hatred of Russia, based on hidden eternal envy.
    Against the background of the ugly, in the literal sense of the word, face of ukroministrov and oligarchs, the people's militia of the DPR and LPR looks like angels. You do not need to be a physiognomist to determine who the future is.
    And the remnants of the Natsik jump into Europe demanding free help and respect for themselves. Europe has prepared a good hole for itself. In the near future they will understand who they supported with the light hand of their master, the USA.
    We wish them to enjoy the so-called Ukrainian democracy and freedom. Happiness to you geyropovtsev.
  10. +2
    18 July 2014 07: 44
    Until they launch the truly necessary processes, they won’t be able to win.
    Tough, harsh truth ... Unfortunately so ...
    1. +6
      18 July 2014 08: 11
      So, but not quite so.
      First you need to completely free and control the territory of the DPR and LPR, then already hold a referendum on the adoption of the Constitution. Now that the supreme power of the republics is enough. And a mobilization must take place, which for some reason they don’t want to announce, but without a mass army, control of ALL cities and towns of Donbass is impossible.
      1. +2
        18 July 2014 08: 46
        And here the author means not only the Constitution .. Local authority is not really formed .. it’s not clear .. on whose shoulders lies the protection of law and order on the ground .. And again .. In 1918, when the Republic of Soviets was adopted in the ring of fronts the first Constitution of the RSFSR ... citizens of New Russia should be aware of and understand which state they live in .. and understand that they are really fighting for the best share .. and not for declarations .. In a simple phrase, be patient, fellow Sudariki, then you will have everything you won’t get far ..
        1. +2
          18 July 2014 08: 55
          . Local authority not really formed

          I agree, this is the key point. Therefore, it would be logical to appoint the heads of the regions of the DPR and LPR, with them directly in Donetsk and Lugansk, after which, with militia units, send them to their areas under the control of the militia. That’s what they did in the 1917 Revolution of the year - they appointed the one at hand, the main thing is that people on the ground see the authorities.
  11. +3
    18 July 2014 07: 44
    Yeah, they still have no idea about this, in the sense of living in Ukraine.
    1. -6
      18 July 2014 08: 08
      do not forget the guys, they say: in Ukraine, let's respect ...
      1. avt
        18 July 2014 09: 22
        Quote: povojdtrf
        do not forget the guys, they say: in Ukraine, let's respect ...
        Maybe it's enough to distort YOUR language for some unknown reason! For 24 years, the liberoids of the Gozman spill have tortured us with such a heroism for the sake of "respect" for the "new" people! am to the blood!
      2. 0
        18 July 2014 19: 54
        I used to speak Russian. Just like coffee can only be masculine. I was taught that way in a Soviet school. And all the other tricks are populist nonsense.
    2. heccrbq05
      20 July 2014 01: 36
      The Colonel is not ashamed, not TOKA, but ONLY. At one time, they beat him in the face with CANDELABRA.
  12. +4
    18 July 2014 07: 56
    The way it is. Not far left to reach this and the most shitty and most peace-loving country - the United States of America. These two monsters: the USA and Ukraine converged in the ecstasy of the highest aggression against the world, peoples who do not accept their teachings on how to live. It’s the USA and dill from anger that Russia interferes with them everywhere, they decided to get rid of our PRESIDENT VLADIMIR PUTIN, who flew across Europe that day, but didn’t burn out. Dill overdid and took away the life of flying in a Boeing, not only Malaysians, but also Americans and Europeans. These are those who actually created them, the dill fascist junta. Oh yes dill, oh yes showed the geyropeytsami, America, that the saying is valid: do not dig another hole - you will fall into it yourself.
    1. 0
      18 July 2014 08: 16
      decided to get rid so brazenly of our PRESIDENT PUTIN V.V.

      I also think that the goal was not a Malaysian airliner, but V.V. Putin.
      But if this is so, then the line has been crossed, now any of the governments of Europe, primarily Poland or the Baltic States, may be under attack. And Poroshenko and Kolomoisky should think about it.
      1. +4
        18 July 2014 09: 30
        Quote: thrower
        I also think that the goal was not a Malaysian airliner, but V.V. Putin.

        Yes, they needed Malaysian. to them, the more people die, the better. and they might not have known about our flight number 1. Yes, and bring down such a board oh how not easy.
        1. +3
          18 July 2014 12: 21
          ... yes, they needed Malaysian. them, the more people die, the better ....

          Examples of such provocations are the sea! Only in our memory:
          --1963 - the US destroyer MEDDOX entered the territorial waters of Vietnam .... which gave rise to an attack by torpedo boats on this ship.
          It became an occasion for BOMBERS OF VIETNAM!
          --1983 - a deliberate approach with reconnaissance objectives of BOINGA Yuzh. Korea. in D.Vostok. It gave rise to declaring the USSR an "evil empire" with all the ensuing sanctions and restrictions against our country both from the United States and its satellites!
          - aircraft bomb Kosovo. All this is attributed to the bombing from Serbia. As a result, the legalization of bombing attacks on Serbia by NATO!
          2001 - a very dubious terrorist attack in New York with twin towers ... The result of the provocation - the war in Afghanistan, Iraq ...
          - 2014 Ukraine .... coup ... failure of plans to engage Russia in the conflict in the South-East Military District ... as well as the collapse of the entire regime ... I need help from Kiev from complete defeat. The UN Security Council will not miss permission to send troops of peacekeepers .... but you can send NATO troops ... need a reason! There is a reason!!!
          1. 0
            18 July 2014 15: 07
            It was precisely with an apology for the downing of the Boeing of South Korea in 1983 that the collapse of the Union began.
        2. 0
          18 July 2014 12: 38
          Yes, they needed Malaysian. to them, the more people die, the better. but they might not have known about our flight number 1

          If any side was needed, then why was there visual confirmation from the escort fighter? In addition, from the uploaded audio recording it is clear that the Boeing attack was carried out by an aircraft (the word "drop, I confirm" - it matters how the missiles went). As for the information about the movement of board number 1, it is not difficult to obtain it with the help of the USA.
          But on the other hand, they could visually check that this is definitely not board No. 1, otherwise the consequences would be unpredictable.
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          2. +2
            18 July 2014 13: 00
            I add that I did not like the appearance of Vladimir Putin when he spoke at a press conference about a downed Boeing. He looks like he has come out of a very difficult situation. Or very tired. But I do not like this coincidence.

            1. +1
              18 July 2014 13: 21
              Yes, something is not right.
              1. 0
                19 July 2014 01: 18
                Along the way, they are pulling Russia in ... But Putin is doing everything possible and impossible to get out of this situation ...

                Now you need to keep the EAR in sharp ...
                As Nicholas II was about to introduce the golden ruble outside Russia, the revolution began ...
                As soon as Stalin, after successful economic reforms, after the Second World War and WW2, raised the economy of the USSR, under which there was a link to the gold standard, he urgently "fell ill and died" ...
                Quiet to do, quietly ...
                Better with China (+ BRICS countries) to loudly demand US debt repayment
            2. +1
              18 July 2014 14: 03
              It seems that he generally thinks about something else. For example, that it can be used as a pretext for war.
            3. zanyks
              18 July 2014 18: 26
              He was unusually depressed at the BRICS summit. They crush the campaign from all sides against him.
            4. 0
              19 July 2014 19: 51
              Normal working view. The situation does not allow you to behave in the usual manner. Perhaps a little rest. This work. Now it’s not time to relax, you have to drag the service around the clock.
  13. +2
    18 July 2014 07: 59
    Nicodemus died and to hell with him
  14. Dbnfkmtdbx
    18 July 2014 08: 01
  15. +8
    18 July 2014 08: 01
    They sold everything they could
    1. +6
      18 July 2014 08: 29
      It’s not even sold, another word is more suitable: it’s broken for cookies.

      P.S. sorry, but you can’t say otherwise.
  16. scarp
    18 July 2014 08: 06
    You're not right. The state is there. New. True, this has not yet happened in world history. Get used`c wassat
  17. Pesnyadv
    18 July 2014 08: 07
    While the United States and NATO are still alive, many more Ukraine will die !!!
  18. DPZ
    18 July 2014 08: 10
    True, here it must be said that there are no any so-called people's republics. They have exactly the same status as the Kiev authorities. The same impostors. They also have to do all the boring procedures to launch state mechanisms. In the meantime, they have everything slyapano on the knee: rather, faster, military time - so come down. Not coming, of course. Until they start the really necessary processes, they will not be able to win.
    here I do not agree:
    1) they are already winning. it’s too early to talk about complete victory, but there are many small victories and the spirit is strong and the will to victory is inexhaustible
    2) boring procedures are also small
    3) "and so it will come down" no one thinks, I'm sure, but the reality is that you have to fight in parallel and deal with politics and the arrangement of your newborn state
    4) imposture is not imposture is debatable. A referendum on the republics was held. Of course, they now have no time to elect presidents; a new referendum is simply impossible. well there were people politically literate, active and not afraid to take on management functions
    so in this paragraph the author is unfair to New Russia
    1. zanyks
      18 July 2014 18: 29
      It means the final victory. That is, you can soak Svidomo without this, but in order to become a state in the full sense of the word, it is necessary to engage in state construction. Without this, victory would not be complete.
  19. +4
    18 July 2014 08: 13
    Due to their geographical position, Ukrainians have always had a historical alternative: either to be conquered or to "lean against" someone, to lean on a strong sovereign shoulder. Living in Lithuanian, Polish and other families as stepchildren is somehow tired. This right was supposed to be in feudal dependence on the head of the family, to fight for the Batek kings, to endure desecration of faith and language. Bohdan Zinovy ​​Khmelnitsky also had to decide the question of "leaning" - to the Russian tsar or the Swedish king. We decided to go to the Russian - neighbors of the same faith, of the same blood. It did not get much better, but it became like in Russia. Even the Polish lords remained (from those who also leaned against Russia). However, stability. After that, Ukraine entered the family of Soviet peoples, having received a wonderful dowry and unprecedented development opportunities.
    But the Cossack Gorbachev-Garber and Boris Nikolayevich, who joined him, again arranged a divorce. Again you need to lean. Tried to Europe. But it was not there. Not that they don’t take, but do not even consider full-fledged neighbors. And Uncle Sam’s reliable shoulder and generous hand turned out to be hard knees, and in his generous hand they saw a cookie instead of money. Whatever one may say, there is only one prospect - the return of the prodigal daughter to mother Russia. Everything will become like in Russia again. However, stability will come.
  20. +4
    18 July 2014 08: 14
    The censor was immediately banned for this phrase and has not been allowed in for a week!
    - Ukraine is dead, it stinks! Already the decomposition of tissues, rotting, the work of worms ... For some reason after decay, a micro-elemental composition forms, like fertilizer for the new Russian world!
  21. +1
    18 July 2014 08: 15
    article to the point
  22. komrad.klim
    18 July 2014 08: 16
    Sad ...
    But EVERYTHING this p.a.d.a.l. and the bend still opens its bread slicers, comments on the evil posts in the networks ...
    Claims the truth and truth ...
    Mutants and Reborn ...
    and it’s quite nice people ... (?????????????????)
    but what nasty things are in the comments, follow the link, look!
    Moderator - Opiana (Natalya) [Lviv]
  23. +1
    18 July 2014 08: 22
    uk..you live in a painted country that you painted for yourself, want to live like in a fairy tale where milk rivers flow with jelly banks, where everything is beautiful, everything happens by itself and Europe is waiting for them with open arms to their family. That's just angry, not good Russia doesn’t want Ukrainians to live in a fairy tale, doesn’t allow NATO, doesn’t pump gas for free, sends terrorists, there is always a happy ending in fairy tales, but there will be no happy ending in this fairy tale. Ukrainians are embraced by a dream and don’t want to wake up, and awakening is coming and will be terrible.
  24. +12
    18 July 2014 08: 27
    Fifteen years ago, I lived in Germany, having arrived there from Ukraine, the Germans constantly asked me "what is Ukraine" and I answered them: Ukraine is a state on paper. There is no such state, and not when. An invented nation, an invented country, all the patriotism brought together to yell la la la ........ to be the elite there means to learn the distorted Russian language and sit in front of the TV audience and grovel on it while being so pleasant to yourself that looking at it's just sick (look at Ukrainian shows). One half of the country, as my grandfather said, is a goof, and the other laughs and uses hilarious expressions from Ukrainian to make fun of. Ukrainian politicians are essentially revolutionaries, all as one are not Ukrainians! And they go to power to solve only their personal problems. I studied in Ukraine under the USSR, so the Ukrainian language is not at all what now it says only one thing, that it is like plasticine, that you want it and stick it out. Therefore, it is not surprising that 90 percent voted for secession from Ukraine in Donbass, I am silent about Crimea. Conduct a referendum tomorrow in other areas and it will be the same. Why don't people come out there because they are scared. So they are waiting for them to come and free them. And they want to go to Europe only because they want to go to work without any problems, since there is no well-paid job there and there will never be. Yes, the Soviet Union left Ukraine a rich legacy (thanks to the leadership from there), so they stole and sold it for almost a quarter of a century, but nothing of their own did not create. Look at their army! They lived only on the help of Russia. Russia, we are brothers, give cheaper gas. Nothing will be there. People should be taken and resettled throughout the vastness of Russia, to create state support for immigrants from Ukraine. To take in thousands, millions. The collapse of Ukraine is an economic impetus to the development of Russia! In Russia, it will be enough to artificially create a housing shortage, and so they go to work in the army and the police. A total ban on migrant workers from Central Asia, no matter what bureaucratic sang, they do not carry any benefit except minuses.
  25. +1
    18 July 2014 08: 40
    The funniest thing is that SHOWED this road with great enthusiasm ...
  26. +3
    18 July 2014 08: 46
    I agree that in the absence of a state the southern neighbor has long had no questions. Bluff, and nothing more. But what is disturbing is that this territory will not go anywhere from our southern borders and will still have to participate in solving problems. IMHO.
  27. +3
    18 July 2014 08: 46
    Good article!
    Only, very sad, like everything connected with Ukraine.
    And now also this plane ((((
  28. Tgdgerd adgegd
    18 July 2014 08: 57
    paRa.shestan will disappear faster than Ukraine.
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  29. +1
    18 July 2014 09: 04
    I never thought that all this could happen to Ukraine.
  30. +2
    18 July 2014 09: 07
    Hateful "country".
  31. +3
    18 July 2014 09: 12
    For a long time already ... Only embittered horses ...
  32. +1
    18 July 2014 09: 19
    And as I think - they want a wall from us - let them build it as soon as possible. It’s expensive for us to build, but they’re already tired of it. They concluded an agreement with the EU and sooner - soon they will be to blame for everything and build a wall from the EU. And then they will bite each other like cockroaches in a jar. Well, unless of course they wiser before this and do not understand that if they want to change the world, they must start with themselves and there are no guilty ones. Bad in your country means you are bad. Good in your country means you are good and that’s it. There is no other, neither the Russian Federation nor the EU nor the Ammerikoza are to blame.
    Only in the country of fools are others to blame.
  33. KostA_RikA
    18 July 2014 09: 29
    In 1991 she went for a walk, walked home in parts
  34. +5
    18 July 2014 09: 38
    very good article. absolutely everything is reasoned. with great pleasure put a plus. thanks to the author
  35. +9
    18 July 2014 09: 47
    Here is the answer to all the questions.
    1. 0
      18 July 2014 20: 08
      Also, Europe exiled its bandits to America.
  36. Aleksandr68
    18 July 2014 10: 14
    All this is by no means new. The state "Ukraine" died back in 2004.
  37. +2
    18 July 2014 10: 26
    Khokhlov as it was a state, and left! But only its institutions do not all work and tend to disappear. Such as social support of the population. while she is! Pensions are paid. They provide people with gas and water and take out the garbage. I mean the urine which is not smelling of urine. Even the police can come and do something there for a simple layman. Arrest the other way around, protect! So there is a state. With its borders and with its power.
    But the fact that this is all weak and amorphous is another question. So I do not completely agree with the author, but I will not minus it. I liked the last offer!
  38. little purse
    18 July 2014 10: 39
    Only Russia will not allow complete chaos in Ukraine. Humanitarian goods will go in wagons. Yanukovych was and no one fought. Poroshenko playing the role of leader of the country gave the Crimea and South - East of Russia.
    All states are created on bloodsheds and the history of mankind does not know other examples. I am a woman, and maybe I don’t understand something, men ?, and
    1. +1
      18 July 2014 12: 45
      All states are created on bloodsheds and the history of mankind does not know other examples.

      Peaceful was the divorce of the Czech Republic and Slovakia. Crimea peacefully moved to Russia.

      Yanukovych was and no one fought. Poroshenko playing the role of leader of the country

      You yourself answer your question-Yanukovych was the leader of the country, and Poroshenko-a puppet, without the right to take independent actions.
  39. +2
    18 July 2014 12: 02
    Artificially created formations sooner or later fall into the component parts from which they were created - the law of nature. This applies to everything from chemical, biological, and apparently political neoplasms. If you do not carry out permanent procedures for the artificial fusion of these formations. If you want, the so-called. expiration date, therefore, independent institutions have no prospects. So, unfortunately, the USSR collapsed, and historical empires did not survive. Also expects the European Union, NATO and away. away. So Ukraine simply expired, because it wasn’t very great.
  40. +1
    18 July 2014 12: 07
    “We protect Europe from hordes as we once saved it from fascism”

    Poor! They do not even realize that the role of "the last bastion of Europe" has long been privatized by the Poles for a long time. They exploit this brand quite purposefully and with good financial success. And illegitimate "children of Lieutenant Schmidt", who climbed into a foreign area, they do not need at all. So you can, and excuse me, get hurt overnight ...
    1. 0
      18 July 2014 12: 47
      They do not even realize that the role of the "last bastion of Europe" has long been privatized by the Poles for a long time.

      I would clarify that Poland and the three dwarfs (Baltic)
  41. +1
    18 July 2014 13: 51
    I myself was born in Ukraine (even that Soviet one), part of the Ukrainian blood flows in me ... All my adult life I live in Russia. And now I am hurt, ashamed, disgusting in my soul from what is happening in the territory of the former Ukraine !!! Indeed, there is no longer such a bright, warm, kind, hospitable state - Ukraine ... Remained its fragments, fragments, warped lives of people, defiled cities, desecrated land ... This whole project "Ukraine" must be stopped and closed !!! An international conference (like the one in Yalta) must decide what to do with the former Ukraine - distribute it among neighboring states, introduce guardianship over it as if it were incompetent, or rebuild everything from scratch ... The latter option is unlikely to lead to a positive result ... Ukraine is the most reasonable option !!!
  42. +2
    18 July 2014 14: 20
    Olga, I would like to tear you into unreasonable conclusions about Chechnya. In 1991, in a referendum on March 17, all of Chechnya voted for the USSR. But, as a result of the Dudaev’s coup, she declared herself Ichkeria. No troops were entered into the territory of Chechnya in 1991 - the situation hovered in the regime of non-recognition of the Russian Federation for their separation. Between 1991 and 1994, genocide of all non-Chechen origin was carried out in this self-proclaimed republic, which falls under the definition of fascism - one country, one nation. 80-90 thousand non-Chechens were cut out, 350 thousand managed to escape. And only after these events the war began. In the Donbass, ethnic Ukrainians and other nationalities were not massacred. How dare you even compare that human tragedy of massacres with what is happening on the Don. Read the material before writing such articles.
    1. +1
      18 July 2014 14: 28
      80-90 thousand non-Chechens were cut, 350 thousand managed to escape

      How dare you ... Teach the material before writing such articles.

      yourself how dare you write like that?
      about the cut-out "non-Chechens" speech ..
  43. +3
    18 July 2014 18: 12
    A little joke:
    Germany, morning, Angela Merkele's bedroom, butler serves breakfast.
    “Madam, I have two news, one bad and the other good, where to start?”
    - Come on with a good, such a wonderful morning ...
    - Crimea returned to Ukraine
    - Oh main goth, this is really good news, and the second
    - Ukraine became part of Russia.
  44. +1
    19 July 2014 07: 23
    Ukraine will be while the war is on in the southeast. The war will end, they’ll be afraid to fight with Crimea (or maybe they will want to get at the most, do not play around, perverts are in power), they will go to Kiev. Then everything will end.

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