Foreign military attaches do not want to go to the Russian-Ukrainian border

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According to the ITAR-TASS citing Sergei Ryzhkov, head of the RF Ministry of Defense's department for the implementation of contracts, 7 foreign military attachés, including a Ukrainian representative, refused to visit the Russian city of Donetsk in the Rostov region, which on July 13 came under fire from Ukrainian territory.

Foreign military attaches do not want to go to the Russian-Ukrainian border


According to Ryzhkov, representatives of 18 countries received invitations, but military attachés from 11 states - Spain, China, USA, Norway, Finland, Denmark, Italy, Germany, India, France and Sweden - went to the Russian-Ukrainian border.

For various reasons, 7 attachés refused to travel - from Ukraine, Japan, Belgium, South Korea, Switzerland, the Netherlands and Austria.

Ryzhkov noted that the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation is concerned about the situation on the Russian-Ukrainian border, and therefore invited military representatives.

“The purpose of the trip is to get acquainted with the situation. We also hope that our colleagues will convey what they have seen to their governments, ”he stressed.

According to Ryzhkov, some of the attachés were unable to take part in the trip, as the order to organize it was received only in the evening of July 14. Some were on vacation, some did not have instructions from the center, but some of the representatives simply refused.

“Attaches of Ukraine, Japan, South Korea and Holland responded with an unequivocal refusal,” Ryzhkov said.
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  1. +24
    16 July 2014 08: 21
    "Foreign military attaches do not want to go to the Russian-Ukrainian border"

    Why? US hosts don't allow? Have you tried to live with your own mind?
    1. +7
      16 July 2014 08: 36
      Quote: mamont5
      Why? US hosts don't allow? Have you tried to live with your own mind?

      Since 1945, they have not had their own mind, as well as independence. And they came and would say that: "These are all Russian provocations," like they themselves shelled their own territory.
      It's time for Russia, too, to live with its own mind, and not to look to the west, to see what they say there.
      1. +6
        16 July 2014 09: 04
        Quote: volot-voin
        And if they arrived, they would say that: "

        Psaka already said ...
        Statements of the Russian Federation about shelling from Ukraine are unconvincing - USA
        Psaki said that the military attache of the US Embassy in Russia took part in a trip of foreign military specialists to the Rostov region to study evidence of the incident. As a result of this trip, the US State Department said that the evidence presented by Russia "was not conclusive."
        http://news.liga.net/news/politics/2551233-zayavleniya_rf_ob_obstrele_so_storony
        _ukrainy_neubeditelny_ssha.htm
        1. pahom54
          +5
          16 July 2014 09: 18
          M.B.lin !!! What other proof is needed ??? I quietly fall into a stupor ...
          1. +7
            16 July 2014 09: 58
            Quote: pahom54
            M.B.lin !!! What other proof is needed ??

            I remember there was some kind of mass murder in Syria, and then the State Department laid the blame on Assad. A couple of days later, terrorists appeared on YouTube and took responsibility.
            The State Department then said that the statements of the terrorists sound unconvincing hi
            I think you will not have any more questions for Psaki.
            1. +2
              16 July 2014 10: 43
              psaki are talking beads! like Tymchuk speaking helmet. Take just above, this is the official policy of the state. This psaki herself may understand that she is slipping bullshit on a piece of paper. But she can’t do anything.
          2. 0
            16 July 2014 11: 22
            they hear and see only what they are interested in. the rest is unconvincing !!!
    2. +3
      16 July 2014 08: 41
      Quote: mamont5
      "Foreign military attaches do not want to go to the Russian-Ukrainian border"

      Why? US hosts don't allow? Have you tried to live with your own mind?


      Yes, they apparently know what they will see and know what to say later about what they saw. The Ukrainian ones did shoot themselves ...

      So people do not go so that later they do not bother with the answers.
    3. +5
      16 July 2014 08: 42
      Apparently they are afraid of being hit by a "stray" projectile, so they don't go, their own zh.op.a. he is everywhere his own. And then the report must be written. And in it it is unambiguous - the Ukrainians fired at Russia. Mattress makers won't like this, so we didn't go.
      1. 0
        16 July 2014 11: 04
        Dear, if you write just to get another plus sign, then I understand you. Including logic! what a stray shell? who will shoot if there are military attachés of many countries, including the USA! the air defense systems of RUSSIA at that moment were on high combat readiness. Yes, and in Kiev, not stupid people are sitting! So, do not write different plague options. It's silly and not funny.
    4. +2
      16 July 2014 08: 50
      Come on, we understood everything already in RUSSIA that will come in Europe, the fascists will then again shout to the whole world "Russian soldier save us", and for such an attitude towards us, we will show you only the FIG ... and f ... ..... at each other. BECOME AN END, AT LEAST EVERYTHING !!! bully
    5. +1
      16 July 2014 08: 58
      what does the owner have to do with it, the American himself was there!
    6. Armin
      +2
      16 July 2014 09: 09
      Quote: mamont5
      Why? US hosts don't allow?

      They may be busy observing and counting Palestinian rockets heading towards Israel.
    7. +2
      16 July 2014 09: 13
      The world should know the truth about what is happening on the border of Russia with Ukraine, but some of them do not even want to see this truth themselves, because it does not fit into their doctrine that Russia is an aggressor.
    8. djtyysq
      +1
      16 July 2014 09: 18
      Why? US hosts don't allow? Have you tried to live with your own mind? [/ Quote]

      And then something is not right! The US representatives have gone, so it is profitable for them!
    9. 0
      16 July 2014 09: 45
      Yes, it's just that everyone already knows the truth, what to ask for, something else suddenly arrives :) And if they go, then they will have to tell the truth later, and if you don't go, then you can continue to close your eyes to it.
      1. 0
        16 July 2014 10: 39
        stupidity you write dear! where will it come from? tie up here with childishness! Or do you think the Ukrainian command is complete idiots that would fire at foreign attaches? the main thing is to write about the topic right? sometimes your childhood goes off scale here.
    10. 0
      16 July 2014 12: 01
      Quote: mamont5
      Why? US hosts don't allow? Have you tried to live with your own mind?


      afraid to see the truth

      and not false information ukrosmi
  2. +6
    16 July 2014 08: 23
    so there is a mind and there is no then!
    1. +1
      16 July 2014 08: 32
      Hmm ... The States think FOR EVERYONE !!! So they sailed ... !!!
      1. +3
        16 July 2014 08: 36
        Quote: Armagedon
        Hmm ... The States think FOR EVERYONE !!! So they sailed ... !!!

        Here are just a little rotten brain ... And the EU's brain shriveled in the absence of exercises developing gray matter.
  3. +8
    16 July 2014 08: 23
    What sense is it from these representatives at the border ?? As if they do not know what is happening there.
    1. +5
      16 July 2014 08: 30
      Quote: snifer
      What sense is it from these representatives at the border ?? As if they do not know what is happening there.

      Of course, everyone perfectly understands what is happening (by the way, the United States even "treated" the turtsy during the 2nd Iraqi! And where is the turtsy and where is Iraq? no yes and there is no truth!
      1. 0
        16 July 2014 08: 31
        it would be fun if a land mine fell on their head wink
        1. s1н7т
          +2
          16 July 2014 08: 55
          Quote: snifer
          on the head a land mine

          As a "general" - "general" I will remind you that a land mine and a high-explosive shell are two different things! laughing soldier
          1. 0
            16 July 2014 10: 52
            And I tell you as a general-general that sometimes in colloquial speech, instead of a "high-explosive shell" they use the abbreviation "land mine" bully soldier but you must admit it would be fun good
            1. s1н7т
              0
              17 July 2014 18: 31
              Okay Herr General, I won't find fault with words drinks laughing Let everything that you can pour on their heads.
  4. +4
    16 July 2014 08: 23
    It is important how much has gone and what they will see. And the picture will be credible, the ukrop affairs have been shaken. Now they must realize that it is time for the legs to be up, or they will use the seeder with a high-precision seeder. wink
  5. +8
    16 July 2014 08: 24
    The ostrich position is to hide your head in the sand. "We will not go, otherwise suddenly you will show us facts that we will not be able to get rid of right away."
  6. +1
    16 July 2014 08: 24
    There was no money for a ticket, probably?
  7. +4
    16 July 2014 08: 26
    They don't want to go, which means they refuse to fulfill some of their duties, but in FIG we need such. Use a stirrer and let others send in who will work, and not sit out pants.
  8. +4
    16 July 2014 08: 27
    Quote: mamont5
    Have you tried to live with your own mind?

    Where did they get their mind? The whole mind is overseas! And then, I didn't go, I didn't see, and there was no responsibility!
    1. +1
      16 July 2014 08: 44
      they have not a mind, but a wallet ... they think!
    2. waisson
      +6
      16 July 2014 09: 00
      ---------------------------- hi
  9. +1
    16 July 2014 08: 29
    All the pawns were frightened, the USA did not dare to follow their king, but how Japan cowardly I did not expect this from them!
    1. +1
      16 July 2014 09: 04
      Japan with 45g has no policy of its own! as well as Yu.Korei.
  10. +1
    16 July 2014 08: 30
    For various reasons, 7 attachés refused to travel - from Ukraine, Japan, Belgium, South Korea, Switzerland, the Netherlands and Austria.
    Well, an attaché from Ukraine could have stopped by! Not far away - neighbors! It would be something to tell about what he saw!
    1. +1
      16 July 2014 09: 17
      The Japanese infuriate me more. When the tsunami damaged their nuclear power plant, our media were so worried about the Japanese. Yes, they are our ancient enemies! An unsinkable aircraft carrier, as their islands used to be called.
    2. +5
      16 July 2014 09: 34
      Quote: Agat
      ! It would be something to tell about what he saw!

      to whom to tell?) to itself?) his government already knows everything
  11. +3
    16 July 2014 08: 31
    ... however, some of the representatives simply refused - Ukraine, Japan, Belgium, South Korea, Switzerland, the Netherlands and Austria...

    Naturally, WHY REALLY LOOK INTO THE FACE?
    They already know that in the South-East there is a real GENOCIDE of the people of their own country, that the rulers are Fascists, but these fascists are not operating in their country, and therefore all these countries "tacitly approve" the actions of JUNTA.
    This list lacks representatives from the USA and Germany - the "inspirers" of this chaosa.
    1. +1
      16 July 2014 09: 05
      read carefully! or watch the news before you write! USA GERMANY were just there!
  12. Dbnfkmtdbx
    0
    16 July 2014 08: 32
    And what the Gayropeyans or Americans do not allow? fool
  13. 0
    16 July 2014 08: 33
    Yes, just ssykovo - they shoot in the same place.
  14. 0
    16 July 2014 08: 34
    The attachés of Ukraine, Japan, South Korea and Holland responded with an unequivocal refusal, ”Ryzhkov said.

    Sixes usa.
  15. 0
    16 July 2014 08: 34
    Yes, they simply piss, what if some stray shell hits next to them? Well, I don’t want to admit the truth either, all the more so later it will be necessary to bring information to my rams-celestials-rulers ...
  16. 0
    16 July 2014 08: 36
    Seven foreign military attaches, including a Ukrainian representative, refused to visit the Russian city of Donetsk in the Rostov region, which on July 7 came under fire from Ukrainian territory.

    “Attaches of Ukraine, Japan, South Korea and Holland responded with an unequivocal refusal,” Ryzhkov said.


    We didn't have time to stock up on pampers.
  17. +1
    16 July 2014 08: 38
    Poor skinny Ukrainian Pig was going to pull the big sleek Russian Bear by the balls? Apparently she hoped that the American Eagle would arrive and, together with the rest of the European chicken coop, this whole zoo would defeat the Bear!
    But the campaign will be left with a pig with a broken snout, at a broken trough!
    1. +1
      16 July 2014 08: 46
      Quote: MAIGOR
      the American Eagle will arrive

      This one, or what?
  18. +1
    16 July 2014 08: 38
    Well, for dill, everything is clear (all of a sudden, something from his own ribbons will fly in with a greeting) But I did not expect from the samurai-But you need to understand the Dutchman and forgive him-on the territory of Russia, the weed is not legalized-how can you break it after all. belay
  19. +1
    16 July 2014 08: 39
    Comrades are wary because they know that there is a real mahach.
  20. +1
    16 July 2014 08: 41
    They are afraid that dill will accidentally cover them there. Therefore, they do not go. soldier
  21. +4
    16 July 2014 08: 41
    For various reasons, 7 attachés refused to travel - from Ukraine, Japan, Belgium, South Korea, Switzerland, the Netherlands and Austria.

    For various reasons, this is why. Does your tummy hurt? Dizzy? Not enough sleep? They won't go to school today! ?? Ahhrynno I like these "independent" observers! This is a global community! And he had them ............. yes, there are simply no words. We saw their work in Syria. When they were bombed repeatedly, when they were looking for traces of the use of chemical weapons by the militants. One figs not heard of a breath. To the WORLD as people as the peoples of the world, they say what the hell, they collected evidence and dumped into undercover games to play.
    1. +2
      16 July 2014 08: 48
      severe enuresis and diarrhea
      1. +2
        16 July 2014 09: 31
        "The attachés of Ukraine, Japan, South Korea and Holland responded with an unequivocal refusal."
        For various reasons, this is why. Does your tummy hurt? Dizzy? Not enough sleep? They won't go to school today! ??
        ..... Ukrainians do not want to fall under friendly fire, the Japanese are in eternal grievances for the Kuril Islands, Koreans cannot forget Viktor An and the second place in women's single figure skating, the Dutch are always high-positive, they are so strained to break nirvana laughing
  22. 0
    16 July 2014 08: 48
    Evidence of Ukrainian shelling of Donetsk, Rostov Oblast, is insufficient, said Jen Psaki, head of the press service of the US State Department, at a regular briefing. As a result, the US concluded that the evidence presented by Russia "was not conclusive," Psaki said.
    So it seems to me that even if it admits that the shelling was not carried out by the regular forces of today's Ukraine, this does not relieve them of responsibility, it means that they cannot control, let them then transfer control to those who may need to create a buffer zone in this area of ​​shelling about 100 kilometers deep into the territory of Ukraine, i.e. under the auspices of international observers to occupy this territory as Israel occupied the Golan Heights
  23. +1
    16 July 2014 08: 51
    Foreign military attaches do not want to go to the Russian-Ukrainian border
    God forbid you have to record shelling of Russian territory from Ukraine ...
  24. 0
    16 July 2014 08: 52
    Yes, they just do not want to write the truth, the owners will not approve angry
    In addition, the United States must be destroyed!
  25. waisson
    +3
    16 July 2014 09: 02
    Foreign military attaches do not want to go to the Russian-Ukrainian border - LET METEOROLOGISTS GO laughing
  26. +1
    16 July 2014 09: 02
    It is difficult to name the reason why the representatives of South Korea refused to go, although Holland and others are clear why. What can you do - the good always grows badly even in the garden, and therefore you need to convey your position, which is so opposed by Obamka-Monkey, and not only him.
  27. P-38
    +1
    16 July 2014 09: 06
    I am sure there will be no shelling during the visit of the attaché, everything has been agreed. And they will say either what they are told in the State Department, or in their government.
  28. +1
    16 July 2014 09: 10
    maybe not in the subject .... but the lack of logic in the West and in Ukraine is obvious .... an example of the bombing of Snezhnoye .... Ukrainian security officials say this is a provocation and an unknown plane, at first it was Russian .... logically they are stupid lie, but if this is a Russian plane, then they do not control their airspace, then, he fired at the town with the militias and their firing points, which, according to the Ukrainians, are just in residential buildings ... then it is not the Ukrainians who carry out the ATO and the fight against terrorists, and the Russians ... then why are they howling about aggression ...
  29. Maxpotan
    0
    16 July 2014 09: 11
    A strange headline, if 11 out of 18 still accepted the invitation, and out of the remaining 7, only 4 refused. Four out of eighteen are not a reason for such loud slogans. Minus to the author.
  30. 0
    16 July 2014 09: 16
    And what is the use of those who have arrived there? Did they express their indignation at what they saw? Not at all! We arrived, looked, drank, had a snack, and left. They didn't even bother - everyone!
    In our time, in the era of computer technology, is there no online broadcast in the border areas? It is high time to put up-to-date video surveillance on these passes, so that there is a view from each side. And let them look at how things are going on our borders.
  31. 0
    16 July 2014 09: 19
    And it is not surprising "" Attaches of Ukraine, Japan, South Korea and Holland responded with an unequivocal refusal, "Ryzhkov noted." - this is to be expected.
  32. +2
    16 July 2014 09: 28
    Yes, everything is fine, Russia is in a state of affairs. Then, as they say, we saw it ourselves, so we will shoot back. But it seems to me that even those Western mongrels that have arrived (excluding K and I) will repeat anything or be silent while they have a shell in the head will not pretend.
    1. Valexav
      0
      16 July 2014 09: 48
      And if it does arrive, they will say - a ricochet ..
  33. 0
    16 July 2014 09: 39
    And, among the amers, again everything is ambiguous ...

    The trip of the US military attaché to the Rostov region did not allow Washington to draw "unambiguous conclusions" about the shelling of Russian territory from the direction of Ukraine, said the press secretary of the US Department of State Jen Psaki. “I have no confirmation of these messages. Of course, there were statements made by the Russians. They accused the Ukrainians of shelling a village in Russia. We have seen these comments, but again we have no confirmation, ”she told reporters at a daily briefing at the department.
    A spokeswoman for the State Department noted that the Ukrainian government has denied accusations of shelling border areas. “The military attaché of the American embassy received an invitation from the Russian Ministry of Defense to visit the Rostov region and accepted the invitation. The trip and the route were controlled by the Russian government, without introductory information from the participants, and were not unambiguous, in our opinion, "- quotes Jen Psaki RIA Novosti.
  34. 0
    16 July 2014 09: 49
    Something is wrong. I have this article. Attachés should not go anywhere. This is not their job. Representatives of the OSCE should go. And, it seems, they went there.
  35. 0
    16 July 2014 09: 56
    The US simply could not refuse inspection. At least in order to "save face". Those who refused can be regarded as abstaining. They have their own reasons. What else could Psaki say? Everyone understands perfectly well that shelling of Russian territory could have been possible only on instructions from the State Department.
  36. 0
    16 July 2014 10: 28
    More such excursions should be arranged for various international and foreign organizations.
  37. kelevra
    0
    16 July 2014 10: 57
    Strange, at first they said that ten representatives would definitely go, despite the shelling, now 7 of them are not going! This is also on the one hand, I mean the militias, there will be no doubt that the shelling of border posts is being fired with dill.
  38. 0
    16 July 2014 11: 06
    The main thing was the military attachés of the USA, Germany, France ... it's a pity that there was no Great ... US bedding
  39. 0
    16 July 2014 11: 39
    and something military attaches from the above countries refused, not otherwise bully
  40. +1
    17 July 2014 00: 39
    Here is another bonus to Russia's righteousness, which turns out to be for "friends" a diagnosis of "political impotence in a hopeless stage." When the NATO Shelupon speaks at all European venues, with unfounded accusations of Russia of escalating tensions on the Ukrainian border and building up a group of troops - an invitation to Russia to visit the border area, a clear gesture of openness and the fact that we have nothing to hide from the world community, is suddenly groundlessly rejected. It looks like the puppeteers are finally losing touch with reality, although hypocrisy and double standards are their politics.

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