Letter to Shurale

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Letter to Shurale


Many people remember a letter from a resident of the Vologda Region, who asked Vladimir Putin to send troops into his home region, so that "polite people" with machine guns would protect the rights of the Russian population there. No one in Russia has considered this letter a joke. Quite the contrary: literally a few days later, a similar message from a Russian resident of Stavropol appeared on Youtube. Social networks on this issue shook altogether: requests for the introduction of troops were heard from all over the Russian Federation.

In the general chorus of requests, voices of the Russian inhabitants of the Republic of Tatarstan stood out in particular. And not only Russian.

According to the precepts of the Reichsfuhrer SS

“It’s only harm from the literacy of Russians and Ukrainians. But otherwise, it’s enough if the population is able to read and write German a little. It’s not necessary to count further than five hundred,” said Heinrich Himmler, his SS henchmen. dependents ", which it is not a pity to drive into the coffin of" democratic reforms. "Etc. Every foreign enemy who dreamed of ever destroying Russia, first of all tried to destroy Russian culture and the Russian school.

These characters are already story. Himmler 23 May 1945 of the year for fear of ampoule with poison. Yegor Gaidar died in 2009 from pulmonary thrombosis. However, there is a strange feeling ... It seems that the Russophobic ideas of the SS chief and the "great reformer" in the open spaces of Russia live and live. In particular, in the multinational and tolerant Republic of Tatarstan (RT)

In early April, a letter appeared in one of the Russian groups of Kontakt about how the Tatar language was implanted in Tataria’s schools, reducing the hours of the Russian language on the way. Each phrase sounds like an SOS signal.

Lawlessness

“Help, I don’t know where to turn! We have chaos with the Tatar language!”, The letter’s author didn’t start from afar. In 1992, Tatarstan adopted the Declaration of Sovereignty, and a little later the Constitution, which established two state languages ​​in the region - Tatar and Russian. The republican law "On Language", dragged by Shaimiev’s entourage, secured the priority position of the Tatar language over Russian. "The law on language introduced compulsory teaching of the Tatar language in school. Well, since it was impossible to introduce additional lessons, loading schoolchildren, they did it easier - they reduced the teaching of the Russian language and instead of the hours taken from the Russian language, our schools teach the Tatar language."

Obligatory in the Tatar language in schools of Tatarstan met differently. Ordinary Tatarstan people (including the Tatars) sadly joked about the fact that "Shaimiyev wasn’t given the Russian language at school", and met the initiative as it is. It was simply ignored in the schools of the republic. During the lessons of the "tatarcha tel" (Tatar language - A.P.), pupils solved their homework in algebra and physics, and the teachers, reluctantly hiding Tatar verbs under their breath, waited for this to end. Both the teachers and the students understood that the Tatar language in the university would not be useful. The teaching of the Russian language, so necessary in any Russian university, has hopelessly suffered. To pass the introductory essay, I had to hire a tutor. But it was still possible to endure. Until September 1, the Ministry of Education of the Republic of Tatarstan did not introduce for all ninth-graders the compulsory republican exam in "Tatarcha tel".

“I did not pass the exam - goodbye certificate”, - the author of the “contact” letter writes. But the exam was not such a terrible problem. Until 2013 year. From 1 September 2013, the exam in the Tatar language is passed in the form of state final attestation (GIA). What did this change mean? "Before that, schoolchildren took the exam in Tatar in the traditional form, that is, at their school and with their teacher. To write off on such an exam - how you are not going to do." And on the GIA, in the language of our interlocutor, figs that you will write. The exam will not be your own teacher, but officials of the Ministry of Education. Did not pass - your problems. Everyone twisted as he could. Someone hired tutors from among the familiar Tatars, someone in advance "found approaches" in the municipal administrations of education and tried to press over there who needed. As a result, the exam turned into nerve-wracking, and the idea of ​​compulsory teaching of the Tatar language became a profanation of the educational process and wasted budget funds. For reference: the program of state bilingualism of Tatarstan costs the budget of the republic millions of rubles. Where does this money go - a separate question.

What is the federal center that is so concerned about the modernization of education and the crisis of spiritual braces? That came into force amendments to the law "On Education of the Russian Federation" which were supposed to stop teaching the Tatar language to the detriment of the Russian language. “In theory, this whole mess with the Tatar language was supposed to end. But it was not there! The authorities of Tatarstan wanted to spit on these amendments, and this means that the mess with the Tatar language will continue,” draws the unhappy outlook of the letter VKontakte . He does not know where to turn and what to do and therefore he asks for advice from his fellow blogosphere.

In the comments to the "public" immediately stinging invectives from the series "What did this Russian get lost? If he lives in Tatarstan, let him learn the Tatar language or leave the republic." The author would have left, but there is one "but." He himself is a Tatar, loves his homeland and does not want to leave it.

Letters to evil spirits

Tatars from the violent "tatarcha bodies" suffer no less than the Russians. It is painful and bitter for them that the language of Gabdulla Tukay and Musa Jalil in Tatarstan has become an instrument of torture and an object of hatred. Well, the “non-title” heads would also be fed up with the classic Tatar speech ... Any Tatar would say that the manuals in his native language, published according to the stamp of the Ministry of Education of the Republic of Tajikistan, are a mockery of the language. With such textbooks, you cannot learn Tatar, and you will forget Russian. At the exit from school in my head, all that remains is that "min sina (I'll give you AP) I will bring tea." For those. who does not know: this is a phrase from the jargon of Tatar gopnik. Allusion with gopnik is not accidental: semi-formation gives rise only to demi-people.

What is the school of Tatarstan, clearly seen in the examples. In the first class of the Tatarstan school, children are forced to write an essay on the topic "Letter to dear friend Shurale". Shurale in Tatar folklore is an evil forest spirit, an evil spirit. Can you imagine first-graders from Peter or Tambov writing a letter to a "friend to hell"? From class to class, essays vary. Until recently, schoolchildren wrote essays about the great and wise Mintimer Shaimiev. During history lessons, schoolchildren of all nationalities are told about "Russian occupiers" who "destroyed the Tatar state" and "filled Kazan with corpses." The schoolchildren are also told that Kuzma Minin and Fyodor Chaliapin are actually Tatars, who were forced to be baptized against their will and then recorded by the Russians. From school walls, pupils - Tatars endure that all evil comes from Russians, and Russian schoolchildren of Tataria - that they are descendants of the invaders and generally subhuman.

"It is necessary to throw!"

Officially, the tartarization of school education in the Republic of Tajikistan is called "the program of state bilingualism in the Republic of Tatarstan". It exists almost 20 years, and in the format of the present existence took shape in 2007 year. According to the documents of the Ministry of Education of the Republic of Tajikistan, the term of the bilingual 2007 program of the year was to end in 2013, after which the education authorities had to develop a new one. The new program was adopted in October last year. The public, having familiarized with it, understood: the tale about the bilingual goby will not end until the goby dies.
"In October 2013, the government of Tatarstan adopted a new similar program until 2020, under which 1 billion rubles of budget funds are allocated," said Kazan Yu. Shcheglov, chairman of the City Society of Russian Culture, associate professor at Tupolev Kazan Technical University. “A jester with them, with funds. But then a Russian who is still living in Tatarstan will have a look at this program, he will understand that the language burden has been waiting for his children for at least seven years, and will think:“ No, you should definitely throw out of here! ". And they will leave."

According to Shcheglov, the Russians will leave not only because of the mass tatarization of secondary education and the blatant theft of budget funds. In St. Petersburg and Moscow, budgets, too, "sawing." Mikhail Yuryevich recalls something else: how in May 1997 of the year in the State Council of Tatarstan was received the leader of the self-proclaimed Ichkeria, Aslan Maskhadov. The visit of Maskhadov was prepared by the then advisor of Shaimiev, Rafael Khakimov, who had just visited Ichkeria on the eve of an official visit. The separatist president in the Tatarstan parliament was accepted as the head of a foreign state, and Maskhadov’s speech at the State Council was broadcast on the central TV channels of the Republic of Tatarstan. From the rostrum of the parliament, Maskhadov smugly taught Tatar politicians how they should live and build their relations with Moscow, while the deputies and ministers with might and main listened to the separatist. Having plenty of self-righteousness, Maskhadov presented the speaker of the RT State Council Farid Mukhametshin a damask blade, and Mukhametshin accepted the gift as a high award.
Looking at the farce in parliament, the inhabitants of Tatarstan were indignant. What happened in the State Council, in any other country is called treason and pandering to terrorism.

Pressing the State Council of the Republic of Tatarstan with Maskhadov once again showed the Russians: do not expect any good from this parliament. After all, it was the State Council under the leadership of Mukhametshin in 1992 that legalized the Constitution of the Republic of Tatarstan, which began with the preamble "The Multinational People of Tatarstan and the Tatar People". This preamble alone is already a reference to apartheid. The residents of the Republic of Tatarstan remember and how the speaker of their parliament at the beginning of the 90-s was kindly welcomed by Wahhabi emissaries from Saudi Arabia. With the money of the Saudis, in particular, in Naberezhnye Chelny, the Yoldyz madrasah was built, which later became famous throughout Russia. Alas, not by outstanding theologians or Arabists, but by one - the only shakird, Chelninets Denis Saitakov. 8 September 1999 of the year Saitakov, together with accomplices, committed an act of terrorism on Guryanova Street in Moscow, after which the rector was changed in the madrasah, and then completely closed.
Waiting for "polite people"

It is clear to everyone in Tatarstan that language inequality in the schools of the republic is an integral part of the ethnocratic course of the RT authorities, aimed at the monopoly of the aul aristocracy on power. The term "aul aristocracy" implies that the highest imperious clans of Tatarstan belong to the same social stratum - a narrow group of people from the Tatar rural backwoods, connected with each other by power, property and often related ties. The aul aristocrat is distinguished by an extremely jealous attitude toward money and power, a penchant for intrigue and intolerance towards “strangers,” especially towards non-tatars. Celestials of the Kazan Kremlin understand: a Russian schoolchild from Nizhnekamsk or Naberezhnye Chelny at a mature age can make a real competition to celestials from the Kazan Kremlin. This feature of aul psychology largely explains why the Tatar language is implanted in the schools of Tatarstan. Ethnocrats block all “excess” oxygen to higher education and, consequently, all possible exits to the higher floors of the social ladder. As a result, the “superfluous” are forced to voluntarily or involuntarily leave Tatarstan.

"Aul" trend from Mintimer Sharipovich Shaimiev, who came from the Tatar village of Anyakovo. Shaimiev all his life trusts only himself similar to people from the Tatar villages, and the Russian general bypasses. Political psychology experts are still wondering: was Shaimiev’s aul behavior not related to the fact that he wasn’t given the Russian language at school? In Russian, Shaimiev speaks simply terrible, and on this occasion is experiencing old complexes. Another problem for political psychologists: can there be a connection between the language complexes of Shaimiev and the forced tatarisation of Tatarstan schools?

In the meantime, the flywheel of tatarisation does not stop thinking. At the end of 2013, the Minister of Education of Tatarstan, Engel Fattyakhov, set a new super task before his subordinates — put all the kindergartens of the republic on the bilingual basis. Back in the fall of 2013, the innovative program Kilachek (The Future) was developed specifically for this purpose and the money allocated in the amount of about one hundred million rubles. Part of the tranche came in the form of a federal grant. Another syndrome of the “aul” trend is Kazan’s behavior in the all-Russian case of “collecting Russian lands”. Tatarstan is one of the main federal curators of the Crimea and at the same time quietly joins the Mejlis. Objective: To prevent the pro-Russian influence on the Volga Tatars. The young and the middle generation of the Crimean Tatars have a strong Russian genetic and cultural component. A high percentage of marriages between Russians and Crimean Tatars, Russian is the language of everyday communication (it came to the point that the Crimean Tatar youth speak almost no Tatar), the mentality is more like Russian than Tatar. One of the details: Muslims from the Crimean Tatars, unlike their counterparts in the Volga region, are loyal to the use of wine. The Russian component explains the thrust of the Crimean Tatars to Kazan. Kazan for them is the Tatar gateway to the “big Russia”, and not to the Turkic world, as former Deputy Prime Minister of the Crimea Rustam Temirgaliyev naively argued in one of his articles. The pro-Russian orientation of the Crimean Tatars confuses the maps of Kazan, and Kazan therefore chose the anti-Russian Mejlis as an ally. But the games of Kazan and the Mejlis go in secret, and publicly Kazan declares full support for Vladimir Putin’s initiatives to collect Russian lands.

Kazan’s behavior is very symptomatic in terms of nationwide assistance to refugees from the South-East. Those residents of Novorossia who arrive in Tatarstan, local officials put below guest workers from Central Asia (the latter give money, and the first require). The first refugees arrived in Tatarstan in April, and from this month they cannot receive official status in the "hospitable" republic. In the FMS, they are “drawn” and “wrapped up” for the slightest reason. Without refugee status, immigrants from the South-East cannot rent a house, get a job, send children to a kindergarten or school. If it were not for the help of caring residents of Tatarstan of all nationalities, the ethnocracy would have exhausted all the refugees in the spring. Experts believe: Kazan does not mind the money, it just does not need the passionate Russian presence in the region. Imagine that they will come a lot, after a year of their stay as refugees they will be legally able to obtain Russian citizenship, that is, to finally settle in Russia and specifically in Tatarstan. A reasonable question arises: is it necessary for the Kazan Kremlin, which has set the task of turning the region into an "Islamic republic", so that the number of Russian nationally oriented opposition in Tatarstan will increase?

It is not surprising that at the beginning of the "Crimean campaign" the inhabitants of Tatarstan asked Putin. so that he sent "polite people" to the Volga region who could protect the rights of the Russian people. This was requested by many Tatars. The ethnocratic style of government of Tatarstan is a threat to the Russian presence in the Volga region. If there are no more Russians left in the Volga region, it means that the Tatars, Bashkirs, Chuvashs will soon also have only to pack their bags and run away. The Volga region without the Russians is an impersonal Provahhabi region with ethnocrats at the helm, where there is nothing alive and there is no real place.
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  1. +2
    16 July 2014 14: 26
    Sheer nonsense, I live in the Russian neighborhood of Tatarstan in Bashkiria, I often visit Tatarstan and have never encountered the problem of Tatar - not Tatar, we also teach Bashkir, German and English in our schools and no one sees a problem in this , I'm glad that my sons will know another language
    1. +4
      16 July 2014 16: 01
      Guys - the article is a provocation. NOT "Tatar tel", but Tatar tele. It's disgusting. How can a Tatar write such a thing. There have never been any problems at all. Always and everywhere there will be people who are not happy, behind the times, who blame anyone for everything, but not themselves. My neighbor on the landing came to Easter with Eggs and the words "Jesus is risen". I have never turned it back, although I myself adhere to a different religion. I hope there are adequate people here and understand that nationalists and others in Tatarstan are marginalized, there are few of them, you will not see them on the street. Everyone lives in peace, the region is developing. population 50/50% Russians and Tatars. As for the language, the Tatar language is the central language in the Turkic group. Owning them, you can understand Kazakhs, Turks - if we talk about the Customs Union and the development of Russia's influence on the rest of the world, one must understand that it is not only about military power, but also about "soft" power. For example, the turnover of m / y by Tatarstan and Turkey is $ 1 billion. These are very serious numbers.
      1. Old Cynic
        +15
        16 July 2014 16: 14
        came to passover with Eggs and the words "Jesus is risen".


        Most precious "holder of another religion"!
        The word "Easter" is written with a capital letter, for this is a proper name, and the word "eggs" is in lowercase, let it be known to you!
        And the phrase "Jesus is Risen" is not and cannot be! There is a phrase "Christ is Risen".

        My minus is for stupidity. "Priymak" - in no case can you be a Tatar, you were deceived by your spiritual mentor. Pryimak - this is how from ancient times in Little Russia the name of the husband of a native who came from nowhere was. Took him, that is.
        So, you are our ethnographer, what you wrote - you got it.
        1. +12
          16 July 2014 16: 30
          A young man, the author refers to the VK article, where a Tatar by nationality writes about the Tatar language "Tatarcha tel", because we are talking about the Tatar language, I have the right to express my opinion, because I live in Kazan and I myself see what and how I studied at the most ordinary school, where I see all this all the time. The level of requirements for Tatars and for Russians is absolutely different in the subject of "Tele Tatars" and the program is different. Depends on which class you are in and which school. You find fault with words, but essentially said nothing. Speech on the article. I have no complaints about "Priymak". The article is pure provocation. Moreover, the title "Shurale". What does it have to do with it. If you do not know how it actually happens, you do not need to speak out. From a distance, you can probably see better, but still, in order to know for sure, you need to have relevant and reliable information. I own it, that's why I'm writing. Ethnography has nothing to do with it. You will remember about ethnogenesis. And what does this have to do with it?
          1. +1
            17 July 2014 08: 30
            Speaking of Shural

            Gubaidulla Tukay - the author writes

            Well, so the great Tatar writer and poet was called Gabdulla Tukai.
        2. +8
          16 July 2014 19: 48
          Quote: Old Cynic
          came to passover with Eggs and the words "Jesus is risen".


          Most precious "holder of another religion"!
          The word "Easter" is written with a capital letter, for this is a proper name, and the word "eggs" is in lowercase, let it be known to you!
          And the phrase "Jesus is Risen" is not and cannot be! There is a phrase "Christ is Risen".

          My minus is for stupidity. "Priymak" - in no case can you be a Tatar, you were deceived by your spiritual mentor. Pryimak - this is how from ancient times in Little Russia the name of the husband of a native who came from nowhere was. Took him, that is.
          So, you are our ethnographer, what you wrote - you got it.

          Do not find fault. You are not required to know the suras from the Koran. I myself am a Tatar, I live in Moscow since birth. I really began to know my native language as a boy at the age of seven, when I was on vacation in the village with my grandmother. Upon my return, my native language spoiled my grammar. russkiy.No for six months everything went back to normal. What is implanted in Tatarstan is not rumors. It's just that whoever is in power wants to look like their own guy, it's a cheap move. Similarly, in Bashkiria, they want to assimilate the local Tatars with the Bashkirs, such as the “Ukrainization” of Russians. If anyone is interested, Wikipedia has a breakdown of the ratio of nationalities in the wallpaper republics.
          1. +1
            16 July 2014 22: 53
            Totally agree with you. Unfortunately, officials are planting all kinds of crap, which in the future can lead to confrontation between peoples.
            Statement
            that Kuzma Minin and Fedor Chaliapin are in fact Tatars, who were forced to be baptized against their will and then recorded as Russians.
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          3. -2
            17 July 2014 01: 50
            "I only remember that the walls with wallpaper. I remember Klavka was with her and a friend. I kissed in the kitchen with both of them." (from Vysotsky)laughing The republic is still feminine. But this is in Russian. You no longer understand.
        3. +1
          17 July 2014 02: 47
          Quote: Old Cynic

          My minus is for stupidity. "Priymak" - in no case can you be a Tatar,

          Since you focused on this word ... "Priymak", but in Russian primak, not "the husband of an indigenous woman who came from nowhere," but a man who did not introduce his wife into his own house, but moved into her house, or into her house families. Even if he is a Papuan, he is still primak. Minus for perverting the meaning of the word.
      2. +9
        16 July 2014 21: 49
        Quote: mashine
        Guys - article provocation.

        No, it’s not a provocation, almost everything is so ...
        There is Tatar planting, there is discrimination on the basis of language (several stories skipped through the central channels), and there is straining for religious reasons (and this also reached Russian TV).
        And the Russian exodus goes in a thin stream, and even the Tatars are leaving to give their children a normal education, all this is.
        And emissaries from Tatarstan are visiting the places of compact residence of fellow tribesmen in other regions.
        So do not talk about provocations.
        Not everything is calm in the Danish kingdom (s)
        1. 0
          17 July 2014 09: 14
          yes, there is a little mankoe ... sometimes the authorities support, in places, maybe - without understanding ...
          but there are no disagreements on religions, that's for sure! "... never argue or quarrel with the people of the prophet Issa ..." - something like that in the Koran, it seems ...
          Islam is an attempt by the East to "correct" the shortcomings of Christianity ...
      3. 0
        17 July 2014 09: 18
        rather, an involuntary provocation, an emotional thickening of colors ... there is something, something in places, something seemed abundant, yes? ... it happens ... bust, settle down ... no need to offend each other. ..
    2. +11
      16 July 2014 16: 44
      The national question in any region of Russia is a very complex issue, and all steps of the authorities in this matter should be very balanced. Never infringement of one nation in favor of another will not benefit it.
    3. Big den
      +2
      16 July 2014 20: 38
      Quote: kerguda straight
      Sheer nonsense, I live in the Russian neighborhood of Tatarstan in Bashkiria, I often visit Tatarstan and have never encountered the problem of Tatar - not Tatar, we also teach Bashkir, German and English in our schools and no one sees a problem in this , I'm glad that my sons will know another language

      The author has exaggerated, if it is soft. In Bashkiria and Tataria, an approximately equal% ratio of the Russian population is 42-37%, Tatars 38-48%, Bashkirs 13-8%, and so on for all nationalities. In Bashkiria, the schools also teach Bashkir children like English, and all subjects are taught in Russian, they have already stopped sending mosques to Arabia and the Emirates in mosques (the imams came from there with a Wahhabi bias). Mixed marriages everywhere, Russified and spoke in everyday life in Russian 80% of the population.
      In addition, the economies of these regions are strong enough to minimize possible "discontent"
    4. +1
      17 July 2014 02: 19
      Achinea nonsense, but in 2005 in the year, in the company where he served as deputy company commander, came three boys from a remote Tatar village. Everything would be fine, the boys are normal, only in Russian there is no boom-boom at all. Those. at all!!! The commander and I were generally in shock. Moreover, the military unit is located near Tatarstan - in the Ulyanovsk region. I had to invite a teacher of the Russian language. Such things, colleagues ...
      1. +2
        17 July 2014 08: 35
        This is not uncommon. For example, in 2010 Kalmyks were brought to us - out of 300, only 10 were understood in Russian and only 2 of them could communicate normally. This is not an indicator.
      2. 0
        17 July 2014 09: 08
        why are you, brother, lying a lot of manko ... I served in the 60s, I was called from Tatarstan, this already was not there! unless they got them out of the underground ...
        or the guys were smarter than you - they slanted at least from something ...
  2. +5
    16 July 2014 14: 27
    Well, the picture looms .....
  3. +7
    16 July 2014 14: 27
    In Bashkiria, we are still at the stage "in the lessons of Bashkir, children solve their homework." The eldest usually has time to figure out the math. But this is an extra ration, not at the expense of Russian hours
  4. +33
    16 July 2014 14: 29
    He visited Kazan not so long ago. Something really hurt my ears and ears. Maybe you don’t have to give so much freedom to national moods? Chauvinism is not a single country, much less such a multinational one, like ours has not brought to good.
    1. Zoripjan
      +11
      16 July 2014 14: 58
      I wonder what exactly cut your ears? The Tatar language that almost everyone knows in Tatarstan (including Russians)? Or maybe they are talking about Wahhabism on every corner? It is not clear what you meant. According to the text: one can agree with something, the idiocy of the decisions of our kings often goes wild. And there is clanism, well, from time immemorial the Turkic peoples had it.)) Fools playing radicals also happen. But according to the mood, the author in some places goes too far. If you look closely at other regions of Russia, everywhere there is something similar. There is also an emphasis on how Russian Tatars are squeezed out almost by force from the republic. Rave! Tatars and Russians in Tatarstan live together and peacefully, we are as one people! and point.
      1. Ivan Petrovich
        +12
        16 July 2014 15: 58
        this is not true, many do not know Tatar! and they don’t want to know and teach. Given that 50% of the Tatar population is in the Tatar, 40% of the Tatar do not know, and the remaining 10% speak it at a household level only.
        1. +4
          16 July 2014 21: 51
          Quote: Ivan Petrovich
          this is not true, many do not know Tatar! and they don’t want to know and teach. Given that 50% of the Tatar population is in the Tatar, 40% of the Tatar do not know, and the remaining 10% speak it at a household level only.

          I will add that many city Tatars either do not speak their language, or speak poorly.
        2. +3
          17 July 2014 02: 40
          10% own it only at the household level

          as having something to do with teaching languages, I consider it necessary to say that it is IMPOSSIBLE to make a language popular by force or directively. The language should be needed practically, then it will be taught. If films, books, songs are released in Tatar that are not in Russian, and people want to enjoy them, they will learn Tatar (or any other non-native language). At the household level - I think this is a matter of politeness and internal culture. The language of the titular nation must at least be understood, "thanks - hello, goodbye", etc. Obligation, on the other hand, does cause dislike for the language.
          1. 0
            17 July 2014 09: 02
            as a language of everyday communication - I know, but for more it is not suitable, like all languages ​​of the Turkic group ... I am a technician, you start talking about work topics, automatically switch to Russian, replete with "primordially Slavic" technical special terminology; and how do IT people talk to each other? in "purely Russian ..." - "drivers, gamers, gadgets, maps ...", yes everywhere!
            the native language, of course, must be preserved, but you cannot argue against progress and integration of languages ​​...
      2. 0
        16 July 2014 21: 08
        then the trick is that everywhere there is "something like that" .... and in Bashkiria, and in Karachay-Cherkessia, Kabarda and the Stavropol Territory .... and this is a fact, I think about Chechnya you do not need to remind, if only those who have very emasculated memory ...
        a question to those in power: How long will you just drag money from the treasury, and not put all this "something like that" in order?
    2. +4
      16 July 2014 20: 39
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      He visited Kazan not so long ago. Something really hurt my ears and ears.
      And I was not so long ago. The eye rejoices - a beautiful city. Hearing did not offend anything. I met the Tatars at the hotel - good guys, without show-offs or any other inferiority. I have never met with a hostile attitude, on the contrary - as a rule, polite and friendly. What cut you there so?
  5. +19
    16 July 2014 14: 34
    As far as GDP brilliantly manifests itself in the international arena, domestic policies are just as ineptly failed.
    The problem is much deeper and worse: if you do not pay close attention to Tatarstan, we will soon get a hotbed of Wahhabism in the Urals where there once was a fraternal, without exaggeration, people.
    1. +5
      16 July 2014 14: 39
      Dear, the Volga flows through Kazan. So what is your hotbed of tension in the Urals?
      1. -2
        16 July 2014 14: 49
        Tatarstan-Bashkortostan.
        1. +3
          16 July 2014 15: 16
          AND? In vain mixed, I am from Ufa, nothing of the kind is observed
          1. +3
            16 July 2014 19: 09
            Well yes. Of course there is nothing like that in Bashkiria. So a trifle. FSB officers covered several Wahhabi training camps, however, little things.
          2. +3
            16 July 2014 21: 43
            There is one caveat ... Although not, two:
            1) in spite of the fact that the minority is radically minded (a religious or national component is not the essence), it is, as always, the most active. For example, a clear minority of radically-minded Svidomo successfully wrote off Ukraine as a waste. Or the Bolsheviks, being in a clear minority in the 17th, were able to turn the situation around in their favor. Examples where quantity dominates quality, mass.
            2) I apologize for my French, but if you, like an ostrich, hide your head in the sand, this does not mean that your ass is safe.
            This is me about the possibility of a sharp aggravation of the situation in the regions I have called.
            In order not to be unfounded-
            http://samlib.ru/a/afanasiev_a_w/dobroeutrobashkirija.shtml
            http://www.posprikaz.ru/2013/05/rossii-ugrozhaet-borodatyj-fashizm/
            http://samlib.ru/a/afanasiev_a_w/wahhabizacijawsejarusiiliesherazogrjadushem.sht


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            http://rons-inform.livejournal.com/842417.html
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    2. +10
      16 July 2014 14: 54
      No need to smack nonsense. I live in Tatarstan so that everyone in Russia lives like that. Everything is in order with us, this is one of the most reliable and strong regions.
      1. +11
        16 July 2014 17: 46
        Quote: navara399
        No need to smack nonsense. I live in Tatarstan so that everyone in Russia lives like that. Everything is in order with us, this is one of the most reliable and strong regions.

        I agree . He lived for several years in Kazan. I did not feel any discomfort from ignorance of the Tatar. All inscriptions are duplicated in two languages. In everyday life, too, no one reproached, they easily switch from language to language. Outwardly, a Tatar from a Russian, only the trained eye will distinguish it. There are some tensions in places, but they are either artificially created or far-fetched. And there are enough fools and scoundrels everywhere.
        1. +3
          16 July 2014 21: 43
          An article with a provocative smell, but, I think, involuntarily. The situation with education in the schools of the Republic of Tatarstan is as described in the article - officially, but unofficially everything is "in Russian": listen, and do it your way (Tatars also apply). I have two children: one graduated from school and graduated from the university, the other goes to school (provincial!). Yes, there is a program, requirements and all that ... but any Tatar understands perfectly well: you can write an arithmetic textbook in Tatar, but algebra - no! calculus - no, quantum physics - no ... this is a Turkic group of languages, it is not very adapted to the description of complex abstract concepts, not Arabic ... and not English ... not any Romano-Germanic ... and not Slavic ... that is, those languages ​​that can perfectly convey equally abstract concepts and living images. Here's another Windows in Tatar "twisted" - well, this is for officials ...
          With national-local excesses on the ground - there is also, how not to be ... let's say: they come across ... but at first, when "we took and grabbed sovereignty as much as possible ... and how much we can ..." - there was a lot! nothing, "settled down"!
          In the 90s you go, it used to be, in Tatarstan - honestly: devastation, evil people ... blackened facades of houses in villages, rickety and decayed fences, abandoned shops; in cities - flaky buildings, groomed roads ...
          As now - those who wish can "glimpse" ... and the people have changed - well, yes, I got out of need a little, and the majority did not care who you were - Tatar, Russian, Udmurt, Bashkir ... even though Martian purple with yellow specks Negro...
          Everything - from the standard of living and confidence in the future! Drop it - and again it will be all ... So that the power goes too far - it is getting better on the spot ... The severity of the laws is compensated by you know what ...
          Therefore, I plus - both of them are partly right! ...
          Or maybe it's harmony? .. But no, bust ...
          By the way, the one who wrote the article, fairy tales or something, didn’t read Tatar ... But in vain - they’re folk, smart ...
          1. 0
            17 July 2014 08: 45
            Quote: vlad-58
            Arithmetic textbook in Tatar language can be written, but algebra - no! differential calculus - no, quantum physics - no ... this is a Turkic group of languages, it is not very adapted to the description of complex abstract concepts

            Here I do not agree. I studied at the Tatar gymnasium. Up to the 10th grade, we had all (!) Subjects in Tatar (school specifics, what can I say!). Algebra, geometry, chemistry, physics, and even astronomy and programming (computer science). We were taught by a cool guy, at that time a candidate of physical sciences, he was also a director. In grades 10 and 11, they began to teach us everything in Russian and Tatar languages ​​at the same time - so that there would be no problems with understanding at the university.
        2. 0
          17 July 2014 02: 48
          God give us all so that everything is good everywhere.
          And there are enough fools and scoundrels everywhere.

          About them and beats the alarm Rattenfanger.
          And he is right. Those who do not love us rely on fools and scoundrels.
          Therefore, they must be admonished in the bud.
    3. +3
      16 July 2014 14: 58
      Because GDP is responsible for foreign policy, and for domestic government.
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    5. +4
      16 July 2014 15: 53
      In the Urals there is someone to answer !!!! URALS ARE NOT MOSCOW. We even have a better driving style will be more polite, but about blue we just get p ..... ON THE PLACE .... ONLY IN THE OPEN no one does not go. and we'll figure it out!
      1. W1950
        +12
        16 July 2014 16: 23
        That's right, we don’t have any excesses in the Urals. I am Russian, my wife is Ukrainian, my daughter-in-law is Tatars. There would be good people, but nationality does not play a role. And trash in any nation is enough.
        1. +4
          16 July 2014 18: 18
          Quote: W1950
          That's right, we don’t have any excesses in the Urals. I am Russian, my wife is Ukrainian, my daughter-in-law is Tatars. There would be good people, but nationality does not play a role. And trash in any nation is enough.

          I completely agree with you, my wife is half Tatar and half Khokhlushka, I'm half Russian and half Polish, the question is, who are our sons by nationality?
          1. 11111mail.ru
            +2
            16 July 2014 18: 35
            Quote: Kergudo Straight
            and who are our sons by nationality?

            If you are not joking, with the "Urals", then the children themselves will decide when receiving a passport. Although during the perestroika years, in my native regional center in the north-west of Bashkiria, the "aul chief" strained the passport officers who wrote out the passport for their daughter three times. Tatar, Tatar, Bashkir, UV, Alla!
            1. +1
              16 July 2014 20: 07
              Quote: 11111mail.ru
              Quote: Kergudo Straight
              and who are our sons by nationality?

              If you are not joking, with the "Urals", then the children themselves will decide when receiving a passport. Although during the perestroika years, in my native regional center in the north-west of Bashkiria, the "aul chief" strained the passport officers who wrote out the passport for their daughter three times. Tatar, Tatar, Bashkir, UV, Alla!

              There was such a thing at the beginning of the "Murzik" reign, then somehow everything changed dramatically
  6. +10
    16 July 2014 14: 45
    Such toys have never been brought to good. More attention should be paid to such "national" machinations. Sometimes you will agree with Volfych that we need a breakdown into provinces, regardless of the "titular" nations.
    1. Ivan Petrovich
      +3
      16 July 2014 15: 59
      I am for it. I think that's right
      1. +6
        16 July 2014 16: 26
        I also think so too. correct province
        1. +7
          16 July 2014 17: 56
          Quote: Gamberra
          I also think so too. correct province


          Something tells me that Tatarstan cannot be pushed into the status of a province, it received a chance in 90-s and uses it for all 100%. And all the talk that we have everything ok and together, may just be swept away at the moment, for example, Ukraine.
  7. +19
    16 July 2014 14: 48
    Some stupidity. The article is provocative. I have been living in Tatarstan since birth, Tatar by nationality. I know my native language but I think and communicate in a family in Russian, I graduated from high school, technical school, institute in Russian, we communicate in Russian at work. Nobody reproached me for this. I try to speak my native language when communicating with relatives, and I try to let the children know their language. But I did not see such pressure on the Russian-speaking population. Ed. In the early 90s there were attempts by nationalists to raise a butch, but the main population of Tatarstan was not up to it. Being one of the most powerful successfully developing regions of the country, the leadership was able to rely on the relative prosperity of the population in comparison with other regions to keep the republic in the right direction. Yes, corruption and the influence of the leadership of the republic on the main strategic directions cannot be denied, but this concerns business and the budget. but it is a disease of the whole country. The region is in first place in development, and if there really existed the movements described in this crazy article, then there would be no such development. Believe me, the family is not without a freak, there are people who are sick on the head and normal international relations are distorted to idiocy. I believe that in Tatarstan the international policy is carried out quite competently. any manifestations of nationalism, Wahhabism and terrorism are severely suppressed. There are a lot of interethnic marriages and people communicate well. I consider it necessary to know our language, the history of our people, respect our ancestors and not forget that we are one whole - Russia. I have two grandfathers who fought for our country, I served in the Soviet army, was a pioneer, a Komsomol member ... Tatarstan and Russia are one and the same, it is simply unrealistic to break us at the moment. I repeat, for the main population, well, there is simply no time to engage in ethnic disassembly, you need to work. All have long been akin to well, and idiots who have nothing to do everywhere are missing.
  8. -10
    16 July 2014 14: 49
    It's time to start criminal cases in Tatarstan, and send Shaimiev to the Saudis to retire! not enough for our money to make another "fire" inside Rissia. and all regional leaders have to pass an exam on knowledge of the state language - Russian, got a bad mark - you have no right to hold a position in regional structures !!!
    1. +2
      16 July 2014 14: 58
      Shaimiev not touch, his wisdom to study and learn.
      1. -1
        16 July 2014 15: 17
        support
        1. 0
          17 July 2014 08: 35
          what place did you smell this wisdom? ... would work with him, would know where this wisdom grows from!
      2. 0
        16 July 2014 21: 51
        and who is Shaimiev by nationality? I personally knew him in my youth, he was a little bully ... And one of the grandfathers was gypsies. Here he has love for horses ...
    2. -2
      16 July 2014 15: 16
      wise guy found
      1. +1
        16 July 2014 17: 24
        You can judge an equal, but I know little people worthy of him. "Babay" well done, in troubled times rebuilt in time, was able to subdue and preserve all the most necessary. Not without sin, of course, all his people were seated everywhere, but this is acceptable, given what has been done.
      2. 0
        17 July 2014 08: 33
        Marat, not Hami!
  9. +10
    16 July 2014 14: 49
    I’m answering the letter, internal problems for Russia are now being created in Tatarstan, a very convenient place to create, as if a separate ethnic entity, but located inside Russia, as if we cannot particularly influence, and therefore it is quite possible to create radical movements such as Wahhabism and etc., for example Hizb ut-Tahrir. In the Crimea, they have already shown themselves as serious opponents, hiding behind the Muslim religion. And managers in Kazan seem to be connected with them, otherwise where are the antics that set people against each other. The language issue has already been used in many countries as a dividing one, on a par with religions and races. If the KGB were alive, I think no one would have heard of such things. The state should carefully monitor such matters and make appropriate moves, if it does not, then everything is going according to plan.
    1. +3
      16 July 2014 14: 56
      For managers, it is just not profitable to incite ethnic hatred, everyone needs peace, especially for those in power. There will be a mess in the republic of GDP will knock out and put another. Everything is clearly monitored and stopped in time.
    2. +2
      16 July 2014 21: 57
      In Kazan, they are trying to impose Wahhabism, in Naberezhnye Chelny and Nizhnekamsk - whatever the leader is - a Scientologist ...
      Large human collectives, states, as well as living organisms, biosystems, and something else ... have this property - the ability to establish self-balance under adverse external influences, homeostasis - simplified if ... In a simple way - it settles down, crumbles. ..
  10. +6
    16 July 2014 15: 00
    I myself am a Tatar. I live in Orenburg. I went a few years ago (2010) to Kazan, after all, the capital of the Tatars, I must see! The most stupid Tatars live there all over the world (where I just haven’t been: St. Petersburg, Moscow, the Baltic States, Central Asia, Ryazan, Tula, there are Tatars everywhere (not Crimean) - a big difference, everything is adequate).
    It seems to me that the Tatars are undergoing hohloization in Kazan
    1. +1
      16 July 2014 17: 27
      You live in Orenburg and live ... But for some reason, these same stupid Tatars take first place in Russia in terms of regional development, and where is your Orenburg. I would be silent, an expert on the Tatars ...
      1. +3
        16 July 2014 19: 25
        But for some reason, these same dumb Tatars occupy first place in Russia in terms of regional development, and where is your Orenburg.

        But how much do they pay as a percentage to the federal budget and how much does Orenburg pay? Enlighten if you know. And the government’s policy towards the national republic and the ordinary region nevertheless has its own peculiarities.
        1. 0
          16 July 2014 20: 55
          Quote: Sma11
          But how much do they pay as a percentage to the federal budget and how much does Orenburg pay? Enlighten if you know. And the government’s policy towards the national republic and the ordinary region nevertheless has its own peculiarities.
          And therefore, I will express a paradoxical thought - that the Russian regions would build relationships with the federal center following the example of Tatarstan. It has been repeatedly said here that Moscow, like a vacuum cleaner, draws out all the juices from the regions. And what are the advantages of the fact that the Tatars managed to resist the "non-rubber" one, you can see with your own eyes, being in Tatarstan and Kazan. Which is what I wish to others, including the Russian regions ..
          Quote: vadimN
          National-territorial division is a time bomb laid down by grandfather Lenin under the whole of Russia. Even the tsarist government understood that in a multinational country only territorial and economic division is possible, and nothing else.
          Remember how it all ended for the "understanding" tsarist government ?!
          А national territorial division, just allowed to avoid "hot" developments. Since the Tatars reached such a level of national-state self-awareness that if their requirements within the framework of national, economic, cultural, linguistic independence were not satisfied, then they achieved it in a different way ..
          Quote: sgazeev
          It's just that those in power want to look like "their" boyfriend, a cheap move.
          Why "cheap" ?! And there is. Many Tatars I knew said that “Mini-Khan, only recently began to speak Russian normally ..
      2. Mikhail Ishutin
        +2
        16 July 2014 19: 34
        Ilmir only told you his point of view from what he saw, immediately foam. Development is a good thing, remember the elections 96. Welfare, development is the price of support (betrayal), call it what you prefer. I do not judge, but a looming catastrophe can be very clearly traced in some comments. Think it over. Article minus. There are questions and they need to be asked, not from such an angle.
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    2. tokin1959
      +4
      16 July 2014 23: 43
      you're right.
      I won’t say anything bad about the Tatars - there are many friends and acquaintances.
      but in Kazan, someone kindles hatred. young people come out with posters - Russian, I don’t like Kazan - suitcase, train station, Ryazan.
      why and who needs it?
      in Ryazan, this is not the case with the Tatars and is not going to, and there are no such thoughts.
  11. +1
    16 July 2014 15: 00
    I once tried to publish an initiative on the ROI website, in which I suggested that at least 50% of the Slavs be included in the government of all national republics. But the site administration rejected this initiative. It seems that not only in the national republics, but also in the government of the Russian Federation anti-Russian sentiments dominate.
    1. +3
      16 July 2014 17: 21
      in which he proposed to include at least 50% of the Slavs in the government of all national republics.
      Governments should work on a professional basis, not on a national basis. We evaluate their activity not according to their pedigrees, but according to the results of work)
      1. -1
        17 July 2014 09: 09
        "Governments should work on a professional basis, not on a national basis. We evaluate their performance not by their genealogy, but by the results of their work)"

        What a great message in your message. Look at the "professionals" in Tatarstan and Chechnya. In what direction are these "professionals" working? Until the interests of the Russian people are represented in the leadership, one cannot remain careless and think that the fate of Chechnya in the 80s and 90s will pass us by.
        1. +1
          17 July 2014 10: 03
          Quote: kit-kat
          Look at the "professionals" in Tatarstan and Chechnya. In what direction are these "professionals" working?
          And in what direction? Where to look? In the article "Letter to Shurale"? I will see in it only the opinion of the author, but here, in the comments or in other articles, you can see other, opposite opinions. Even the dissatisfaction of Russian speakers about language training at school does not unambiguously indicate a problem, since this training contains an undoubtedly positive aspect - the removal of language barriers between people of different nationalities, the rapprochement of those living in the same republic, city or village. If you do not pump up students with hatred of the language of another nationality, but explain to them and their parents that knowing the language of your neighbors is necessary for good neighborly relations, which is no less important than knowing English, which most schoolchildren may not need in life. In addition, the study of languages ​​from different families (for example, the Turkic and Indo-European families) is more conducive to intellectual development than the development of other languages ​​from the same family, if we take only the potential of the language itself, and not the texts created in this language. In short, the article and all the local reasoning is a way to find a problem, and not a ready-made description of it, for which you already have a ready-made solution. Ready-made solutions, for which "problems" are often typeset without understanding all their complexity and depth, most often do not eliminate old problems, but exacerbate them or generate new ones.
          1. -1
            17 July 2014 11: 21
            Do not pretend that you are a child. This is not the first letter of this kind. In addition, from my own experience I know what discrimination against nat. featured in similar republics. Because of liberals like you, Russia faces another disaster. It is necessary to strengthen the Russian component in education and in the leadership of nat. republics, and in the native Russian regions too. The native language in the republics can and should be translated into optional, because it does not carry any practical load - we live in Russia, where the state language is Russian.
            1. 0
              18 July 2014 08: 48
              Quote: kit-kat
              Because of liberals like you, Russia faces another disaster.
              I give you arguments, and you label me. Liberals shout "enough to feed the Caucasus" and other xpen aimed at aggravating interethnic relations in Russia. Such, apparently, the command from Fashington received. They are helped by the Nazis of all stripes, not always intentionally, but by their nature: they never improve relations between peoples of different nationalities, but only worsen them. Look at the photo of the Kiev Maidan, the photo from Bolotnaya Square - they are in the same ranks. Your proposal, contained in the initiative on the ROI website, is provocative and, by virtue of the arguments I have outlined above, works in exactly the same direction. And you can stick the label "liberal" or "Nazi" to your taste, I don't care.
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    3. 0
      16 July 2014 21: 01
      Quote: kit-kat
      I once tried to publish an initiative on the ROI website, in which I suggested that at least 50% of the Slavs be included in the government of all national republics.
      I must honestly say, not a very thoughtful initiative. And if the Slavs live there very little - to invite Russian migrant workers to positions in the government? The controversial idea is to give even proportional representation to nationalities in government: corporate scandals, dissatisfaction with career growth will have national nourishment and constantly undermine the coherence and effectiveness of their actions. I agree with lukke
      Governments should work on a professional basis, not on a national basis.
  12. Grandfather Victor
    -4
    16 July 2014 15: 02
    Learn English, and who does not want - Chinese!
    1. +1
      17 July 2014 03: 02
      Learn English, and who does not want - Chinese!

      Not knowing English in our time is indecent. And about "teach" there is an old anecdote (folk wisdom):
      Optimists learn Jewish.
      Pessimists are Chinese.
      But realists are a Kalashnikov assault rifle.
  13. +6
    16 July 2014 15: 05
    National-territorial division is a time bomb laid down by grandfather Lenin under the whole of Russia. Even the tsarist government understood that in a multinational country only territorial and economic division is possible, and nothing else. National autonomy can only be cultural! In territorial autonomy there is always a black sheep that will start to incite small-town chauvinism, dreaming of the laurels of the local prince ...

    And what in this case? At the same time, the division of the country cannot be redrawn. This requires painstaking work, probably not of one generation, and the stubborn desire of the ruling power, which will be supported by the cultural elite (including the national one). This is a radical breakdown of mentality and the eradication of any small-town ambitions ... Is this achievable ...?
    1. +1
      16 July 2014 18: 35
      First the Tsar, then the provinces. Achievable.
  14. +2
    16 July 2014 15: 50
    In order to push through false ideas, it is NECESSARY to "dress" them in plausible "clothes", to use proven facts and EXIT THE NEEDED LIES ... As a Tatar, I am telling you ... the author is an arsonist ...
    about teaching the language exactly the excesses
    1. 0
      17 July 2014 08: 28
      that's just about teaching - the truth! Presented, of course, with excesses ...
      yes, in general, everything is true, but: small isolated cases of inappropriate behavior of fools, random people in the leadership are presented as the "general line of the party" ... this is nonsense!
      did you have rain? .. yeah, it was, it means ... your land, adjacent areas and even half of the planet suffered from heavy rainfall! ... save yourself who can (after they save me personally!) - here's how- then ... bloating it ...
  15. +14
    16 July 2014 15: 57
    I respect all the representatives of various nationalities and their language living in Russia.
    BUT...

    An example from your life. Born in Ukraine, he studied at the school except Russian, Ukrainian and English. Then he lived for 4 years in Poland. He mastered it a bit. Then he lived 5 years in Germany. At the very least, he also began to understand a little of it. By the nature of their profession and scientific activity, it was necessary to use literature in English. It seems that everything is in order in the language issue. But this life made.

    And now we find out that according to the results of the last USE with the Russian language, the blockage.
    Our main national language is Russian. So he should be given the main attention, and the remaining languages ​​should be studied only at the request of the student and his parents, optional.
    Imagine a family that, due to the specifics of their parents or other circumstances, often changes their place of life. For example, children of a serviceman or geologist. What should they become polyglot?
    Forced language teaching of any subject of Russia will only lead to tension in the national question.
    One country - one language.
    Other languages ​​are optional.
    And life itself will show what language you need to know. Moreover, everyone basically writes in the questionnaire .... with a dictionary. With a dictionary, I can also in Chinese, if necessary.
    1. Old Cynic
      -5
      16 July 2014 16: 21
      You, Dear, decide on the floor!
      valentina-makanalina - Valentina Makanalina, if I understand correctly. If it’s right, then it’s kind of a woman’s floor ...
      And here:
      Born in Ukraine, he studied at the school except Russian, Ukrainian and English. Then he lived for 4 years in Poland. He mastered it a bit. Then he lived 5 years in Germany. At the very least, he also began to understand a little of it.

      Born, taught, lived ...

      belay Conchita Wurst ???
      1. +4
        16 July 2014 17: 04
        Who and under what name is registered does not matter.
        Besides me, I have a wife and children.
        I don’t ask you why you are OLD, and even the CINICIAN. Maybe you are YOUNG and an OPTIMIST.
        1. 0
          17 July 2014 09: 22
          valentina-makanalina SU Yesterday, 17: 04 ↑

          Who and under what name is registered does not matter.
          Besides me, I have a wife and children.
          I don’t ask you why you are OLD, and even the CINICIAN. Maybe you are YOUNG and an OPTIMIST.

          In vain are you talking about the meaning that they say it’s not essential
          Your thoughts seem to be right
          But your ball says otherwise
          As for the children and the wife, you can write anything.
          For conspiracy
          Overtone window recourse?

    2. +3
      16 July 2014 22: 05
      USE - ugliness, not an indicator of either the level of knowledge or the level of language proficiency ... but nothing at all! To turn the passing of the examination in humanitarian discipline into solving the charades ... of physics and chemistry - into coloring the comic book ...
      Examination will be canceled! Maybe there will be machine processing of exam results, something like that ...
  16. +4
    16 July 2014 16: 06
    the fifth column still crap
  17. +4
    16 July 2014 16: 21
    He lived in Ukraine and here is the result! The same garbage was. He left because the children at Univer did not speak the human language, that is, in Russian. Reduced classes and hours of Russian. Now nationalism trust before the collapse and war! Learn Russian and all other languages!
  18. RusLine
    +11
    16 July 2014 16: 22
    Article provocation.
    I agree only with the teaching of the Tatar language. Himself a native Kazan. At school in the years 97th 2000s I had Tatar 5 lessons a week. Russian is only 2 or 3. I don’t know Tatar, and there is no need for it.
    Conflicts between Russians and Tatars also do not arise. This is quickly suppressed. And purebred Russians or Tatars in Kazan are already few. All have long been mixed together. Although in villages they are trying that the bride and groom should be of the same nationality.
    1. 0
      17 July 2014 03: 07
      And how will it be "late" on the Move ????
      Here is another example in favor of one state language.
  19. Felix200970
    -9
    16 July 2014 16: 38
    Here is another example in favor of one state language. In Ukraine, he is alone. And there will never be a second. There's no point. All teaching at universities is conducted in the state language. There, people are born who determine the further movement and development of the state
    1. +4
      16 July 2014 17: 04
      And what is Ukraine now? And what will "Ukraine" be for the New Year? And what a Ukrainian. is the state language? zapadensky or Poltava, Cherkassy, ​​Kirovograd regions. ? It's all so vague ...
    2. 11111mail.ru
      +2
      16 July 2014 19: 11
      Quote: Felix200970
      In Ukraine, he is alone. And there will never be a second. There's no point.

      For Galicians, your words are the truth in the first instance. Go to Lviv and preach there, you will be welcome. Only beyond the right bank of the Dnieper there is no monopoly on the truth. The refusal of bilingualism by pravosek (homosexual) people is the main reason for the uprising of the Russian people on the left bank. The Russians got up from their knees to their feet. At one time Dolores Ibarruri said: "It is better to die while standing than to live on your knees." The Russians stood up - the Ukronatsiks will lie (in the coffin).
      1. Felix200970
        0
        23 July 2014 15: 03
        One feels that he was writing a man who did not travel further than the outskirts of his fly. In Lviv, you would hear Russian more often than in your hole. If you think that the Russians in the east of Ukraine got up from their knees, you are very mistaken. And in general, without knowing and not presenting our local layouts, do not try to "analyze".
    3. -1
      17 July 2014 02: 00
      So how is it? Moved? laughing
    4. +1
      17 July 2014 03: 13
      I once had a Ukrainian wife, a native of a small town near Vinnitsa. She said that in Ukrainian there were only peasants at the bazaar. The townspeople all knew mov, but at home and among themselves they spoke either Russian or Yiddish.
      Here's an example of one state language.
  20. +7
    16 July 2014 16: 40
    Dear! Under the USSR, national languages ​​were taught. In particular, in Ukraine, in Russian schools, they began to learn Ukrainian from the second grade. We learned two languages ​​and nobody died! As a result, those who studied in those days know the Ukrainian language better than those who now study only in Ukrainian (and even spoiled by the Galician "govirka" with a Canadian accent). It's not about the language! The point is in the textbooks, where they introduce national hatred into children's heads!
    The point is HOW THE HISTORY IS PRESENTED !!! Here's where to start!
    1. +3
      16 July 2014 22: 09
      My children teach at school - in Tatarstan! - Russian, Tatar, English, German, optionally - Spanish ... There is no Ukrainian ...
  21. +3
    16 July 2014 16: 48
    The only thing I will say is that the article is clearly custom-made ...
    1. 11111mail.ru
      0
      16 July 2014 18: 45
      Quote: Agent 008
      The only thing I will say is that the article is clearly custom-made ...

      I agree, and customers = your one-minds.
  22. +3
    16 July 2014 16: 57
    “A person is as many times a person as he knows foreign languages” (I.V. Goethe)
  23. 0
    16 July 2014 16: 59
    Shaimiev, even under Yeltsin, tried to raise his feathers. What's wrong? Khanate seemed to him .. He was broken off ... Not enough? Again the foam rises.
    1. +3
      16 July 2014 17: 31
      Shaimiev is a wise man, brought up the right team, and left on time and is engaged in the restoration of the ancient city in Sviyazhsk. He never needed to lift his feathers, and Yeltsin and Putin always considered him the old guard and always Tatarstan was his support. No need to write stupid things.
      1. 11111mail.ru
        0
        16 July 2014 19: 15
        Quote: navara399
        Yeltsin and Putin always considered him the old guard

        Yes ... opinion bustling alkane Is it worth a lot?
    2. 0
      16 July 2014 20: 13
      http://ukroturk.livejournal.com/39978.html
  24. Kakaktus
    +6
    16 July 2014 17: 07
    Officially in Kazan, the average salary is 25 rubles, the real one is 0000. My acquaintance on guard receives 15, with a living wage for the working population of about 000. Kazan is one of the first places in Russia in terms of delayed salaries !!!! Local media work as they say. Don’t say that from the submission of Shaimiev, the Tatars occupied up to 8% of leadership positions. When asked by Shaimiev from Comrade Salia (Communist Party of the RT) why there are so few Russian leaders, a wise answer, a lack of professional staff !!!!! With the advent of Minnikhanov to power, attention began to turn not to titularity and kinship, but to professionals. Many Tatars who arrived from the regions in Kazan are not so good at owning the imperial, they are recruiting Tatars, it’s easier, you don’t need to strain. We have a lot of doctors of science and professors whose pronunciation is not so hot, the question is how and to whom they handed over .... or just a purchase or a gift. Tatars who came from the villages and came into power HERE IS THE PROBLEM !!!!!!!!
  25. 0
    16 July 2014 17: 15
    The next provocation and etching, the Tatar language was in schools even in Soviet times, but we ran away from school, but in principle we gave grades to everybody. Maybe the Tatars and the EGE were introduced in schools, another coming from Hohland
  26. +4
    16 July 2014 17: 17
    Quote: 70BSN
    In the Urals there is someone to answer !!!! URALS ARE NOT MOSCOW. We even have a better driving style will be more polite, but about blue we just get p ..... ON THE PLACE .... ONLY IN THE OPEN no one does not go. and we'll figure it out!

    I confirm for the Urals .. we like Babylon, whoever is not there .. there are no pin-dos .. there are no geyropeyts either .. there are no blacks .. and who are there are the right people .. others if they take root then they live in silence ..
    1. +3
      16 July 2014 20: 19
      [quote = el.krokodil] [quote = 70БСН] In the Urals, there is someone to answer !!!! URALS ARE NOT MOSCOW. We even have a better driving style will be more polite, but about blue we just get p ..... ON THE PLACE .... ONLY IN THE OPEN no one does not go. and we'll figure it out! [/ quote]
      I confirm for the Urals .. we like Babylon, whoever is not there ... there are no pin-dos .. there are no geyropeyts either .. there are no blacks .. and who are there are the right people .. others if they take root then they live silently .. [completely agree, Salyanka in the Urals is still the same, and we all celebrate holidays and Muslim and Christian all together, even in the Bashkir villages seeing that a person does not understand Bashkir, they are switching to Russian so that the person takes part in the conversation
  27. DMB-88
    +3
    16 July 2014 17: 20
    One thing is clear, in Russia there is practically no national policy !!!
  28. +4
    16 July 2014 18: 47
    Forced to intervene. Russian myself live in Kazan. Throughout his life, he underwent a transformation from the Tatars-chaplash to deep respect for the Tatar people. And that's why. Many believe that the Russians were great from the first day of the creation of the world, but this is not confirmed by historical documents. Documents say that before the invasion of the Tatar-Mongol, the Russian principalities developed like the whole of Europe divided, split up, the brother went to his brother - in general a civil strife. And only a shaft of different peoples, already conquered by the Uyghurs (not the Mongols in the modern sense) -Alan, Bulgar, Tatars and other peoples (which incidentally themselves suffered from the invasion) created first the Great Tatarstan (until the end of the 16th century) and then Great Russia ( as before, our land was Great Scythia and Sarmatia). What is the first thing Ivan the Terrible does when he grows up and takes power into his own hands? He collects fragments of the Golden Horde - a state that he considers his own –Kazanne, Astrakhan and Nogai Khanates, fights for the Crimean — there was not enough strength. And only then already it hits external enemies - Lithuania, the Swedes. He had the power to call the Swedish king a slave, and the Queen of England - a whore.
    At first the Tatars were forced to be called Tatars (the Alans in Europe were called the White Tatars), then Catherine began to write the Tatar peoples into Russians. Of particular interest are the relationships between Dmitry Donskoy and Tokhtamysh, who were allies and not enemies, read serious studies by serious historians. Four armies were to converge on Kulikovo Field - on the one hand Mamai and Lithuanian Prince Vitovt, on the other Donskaya and Tokhtamysh (Don vassal of Tokhtamysh). The battle took place between Donskoy (came first) and Mamai (came second). Vytautas was 4 day late, Tokhtamysh was 1. We know the outcome of the battle.
    Today, Tatarstan is developing more dynamically than any region - these are the plans and ambitions of our leadership. As Russian and mature, I understand that it’s difficult to get into power in Tatarstan without knowing the language (but who prevents me from learning it? Nobody. Just laziness. I learned perfectly well all the crap in Tatar - that’s a lot of mind). I consider it obligatory for Tatars to learn Tatar, my daughter goes to school, and I don’t seem to be too sick of Tatars - she does not complain. That is, I say, give the opportunity to the indigenous peoples to develop as they want - the country will become stronger from this. And those who are extremists-Tatars themselves do not like them a little, there is a lot of ringing current from their affairs.
    Tatar is a strong pastoralist and plowman. I like to watch Tatar performances in Russian - they are funny and funny, mainly about rural life (no cosmopolitanism like some of our fellow tribesmen). It took me 52 years to understand all this. And if someone attentively follows the monuments of Vladimir Russia, they probably noticed that all the old stone temples are made of Bulgarian stone (in particular Bogolyubovo). There were times when the construction industry was already in Bulgaria (they produced standard blocks and bricks), but this was not the case in Russia. It is no coincidence that the Vladimir and Nizhny Novgorod princes liked to go to the Bulgars - they go there in boots and we have bast shoes. In my opinion, this whole bazaar about the Tatars is superfluous.
    1. +1
      16 July 2014 20: 03
      The most terrible and no less funny is when amateurs begin to teach history and, most importantly, the one that the Germans imposed on us. It's time to change the idea of ​​Russia not from the time of the so-called. "Varangians", and from more ancient times (although most of the documents were stolen or destroyed by the same Germans for which they were repeatedly beaten by the Great Lomonosov)! Do not put a "shadow on the fence" dear, do not repeat the legends composed by the German Miller and others like him!
    2. 0
      17 July 2014 02: 05
      SW Tatars, and where did you hide the Mongol from your common yoke? laughing
      1. +1
        17 July 2014 08: 58
        Ah, they are such bastards, these are your Mongols, they conquered us from the beginning and then sent us to the front lines! Radishes! laughing
    3. +1
      17 July 2014 11: 29
      Quote: ListenDeda
      The princes of Vladimir and Nizhny Novgorod loved to go to the Bulgars — they go there in boots and we have bast shoes.
      Put "+", but there is one inaccuracy. Not "they walk there in boots, but we have sandals." In Russia in the 10th century. the prince, his retinue and the city nobility wore boots, as in boots it is more comfortable to use stirrups or walk on paved roads. Gardarika after all. Farmers wore bast shoes, which were much more comfortable on plowing and in the mud than boots that slipped and buried in the ground. The first mention in the "Tale of Bygone Years" about the meeting of Russians with the Volga Bulgars, when Prince Vladimir Krasnoe Solnyshko defeated them (985), his voivode Dobrynya, having examined the captives dressed in boots, said to the prince: “These will not want to be our tributaries ; let's go, prince, let's look better for bast shoes. " Prince Vladimir made peace with them. These were the warriors who themselves "covered" the settlements of the Lapotniks, not paying much attention to their ethnicity (more - to religion), just like the Russian princes with their squads, the Vikings in Europe. The princes-relatives could also chop off the land with bast shoes from each other, but they could fight and make peace without this. The estate, however.
  29. +9
    16 July 2014 19: 09
    We work together: Tatars, Russians, Dagestanis, Azerbaijanis, Komi, Kazakhs, there were no problems for the nation.
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  31. +4
    16 July 2014 20: 18
    I agree with the definition that Lenin laid a time bomb by introducing the right of nations to self-determination.
    I live in Kazan since birth. At 90 they approached on the street (in the center) and demanded to get out of Tatarstan since like I’m an occupier. There were calls in the press to show these Russians their real place. There were accusations that the Russians had drunk and instilled laziness to the Tatars.
    Now all this is in the past (but not forgotten) And all this can be extended at any moment, as a means of blackmailing the central government. Look at how power was formed in the days of developed socialism: the main one is the Tatar, his deputy is Russian, or vice versa. Now there are very few Russians in government.
    I agree with Zhirinovsky that it is necessary to return to the division of territories by provinces.
  32. +3
    16 July 2014 20: 20

    Meanwhile, the flywheel of tatarization does not think to stop. At the end of 2013, the Minister of Education of Tatarstan Engel Fattyakhov set a new super task for his subordinates - to put all the kindergartens of the republic on a bilingual basis.


    And what is it that the kids will know basic things in 2 languages?
    My son, 4 years old, goes to such a kindergarten, Russian children are very happy there, the teachers communicate both in Russian and Tatar, to whom it is more convenient - there is no other criterion.
    Russian none Tatar does not teach by force.
    Moreover, he somehow gave out: one, two, three, four - They taught in the kindergarten, can we be accused of Americanization? what do we want to lie under the Anglo-Saxons?
    I myself am a Tatar, but it’s more convenient for me in Russian. I never received any blame for this. My wife is half Tatar / Russian, there are a lot of such people and, in principle, the people are one.

    Article - Throwing in, who at least once we had one will never think so. Come, live, it’s good with us.
  33. +4
    16 July 2014 20: 24
    "Tatar tele" and "Tatar uku" schoolchildren study in the Republic of Tatarstan 5 times a week. The teaching methodology (textbooks, curriculum) is not very successful (at least for those who are not native Tatar). English is taught more effectively, and schoolchildren know it better (although less hours). Probably the curriculum in Tatar was pushed through by some "fellow-Kunaks" of the Minister of Education. Knowing Tatar can be understood (not 100% of course) Bashkirs, Kazakhs, Chuvashes.
    Turkish is only contextual, about how Russians will understand Serbo-Croatian.
  34. sklyapas
    -3
    16 July 2014 21: 02
    With this began Ukrainization. The same nonsense in the Baltic. The 5th column fulfills the bucks of non-governmental organizations. And this is not a joke. It’s easy to kill young brains, only then you have to rinse with blood.
  35. +3
    16 July 2014 21: 31
    The article is completely provocative. Someone is trying to drive a wedge between the Tatars and the Russians. In Russia there is not a single region where different peoples live so peacefully and friendly. Find out from any adequate resident of Tataria. Well, some comments ... Everywhere there is dissatisfied , offended tovarisch ... It is better not to stir up the water, it is fraught.
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  37. +2
    16 July 2014 22: 54
    Article provocation, definitely.
  38. Demon45
    +1
    17 July 2014 00: 09
    He lived in the Chuvash Republic in the 90s, but the national question was acute (especially in terms of language). Although even the Chuvash professors looked at our frank disregard through our fingers. And if you look back, you can say that all this nationalism (on both sides), was inflated artificially.
    There are good and not very good people. I apologize for the banality.
  39. 0
    17 July 2014 03: 29
    Russia rests on the friendship of Russian and Tatar
  40. 0
    17 July 2014 03: 29
    Russia rests on the friendship of Russian and Tatar
  41. +2
    17 July 2014 06: 55
    I’m Kryashen. I live in Kazan. I don’t know the Tatar language. Although I regret very much that my parents did not teach me. I have many friends of Russians and Tatars and there have never been disagreements on the national issue. By the way, we do not like Kryashenov in Tatarstan. They say that Ivan baptized us by force Grozny. Although we were long before him. History must be taught.
  42. Ishbuldy
    -1
    17 July 2014 07: 34
    I live in the south of Bashkortostan 80% of Bashkir residents, Russians living here perfectly understand the Bashkir language, many speak Bashkir, I don’t think that it is different in Tatarstan in this regard, Russians living in national regions for a long time mostly understand the language spoken by locals.
    For those who advocate for the province, you think that this will solve the national issue, renaming will not give anything, but will create some ground for nationalism.