Assault rifle AR-M5 FTB from the Bulgarian company Arsenal

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Many global companies today are on the path of production and distribution of small weapons (carbines and assault rifles) based on the world brand - Kalashnikov assault rifle. This trend manifested itself several years ago, the site reports http://www.all4shooters.com.



Thanks to the close contacts of the Soviet Union with the Warsaw Pact countries, these countries were able to produce small arms based on the basic principles developed by the great Russian armorer. After the process of manufacturing small arms was established in Eastern Europe, first the Soviet Union, and then Russia, they experienced all the “charms” of weapon competition. I had to look for options for domestic products to replay foreign products for various parameters. Perhaps, even then in Russia they began to regret that the Soviet authorities at one time gave Eastern Europeans the opportunity (on the basis of a license) to manufacture weapons based on the AK and AKM principle.
Various variations of the Kalashnikov automaton of foreign production cannot be called fully reliable. Numerous tests indicate that their quality is inferior to the machines of the Russian assembly. But experts believe that the time is not far off when foreign manufacturers of weapons based on AK technology can outrun Russia as well. To prevent this from happening, Russia is also developing new high-quality small arms systems.

One of the companies engaged in the manufacture of small arms on the basis of AK and AKM in Eastern Europe is the Bulgarian company Arsenal with headquarters in Kazanlak.



The name of this company some time ago surfaced in the media also in connection with a fire in warehouses. The fire was even tied up with the desire to destroy some kind of evidence revealing the direction of arms supplies.

The weapon production of the Bulgarian Arsenal is sold not only in the territory of Bulgaria itself, but is also actively exported. The products are distinguished by the fact that it has a Kalashnikov assault rifle base and a high quality, which small-arms operators in different countries of the world have managed to evaluate.

The company "Arsenal" went the way of manufacturing the receiver without the use of metal sheet molding. The method of Arsenal specialists consists in milling and subsequent special processing of the metal.

With the help of this particular method, early AK models were made in the Soviet Union. And if the majority of world companies decided to move away from such a method in order to save, in Bulgaria they remained true to the principles of quality. At the same time, weapons from Arsenal are only slightly more expensive than similar weapons obtained in the process of forming a sheet of metal.

At the Paris exhibition EUROSATORY-2014, the Bulgarian company presented a number of new products. These are carbines and assault rifles based on the same AKM. It seems to be nothing new, but in fact the products from Kazanlak deserve attention.

One of the presented assault rifles is the AR-M5 FTB, which has the version with the caliber 7,62 mm and 5,56 mm (NATO). This rifle was originally designed for use by fighters of special units, since its scale is substantially smaller than that of many analogues. The total length of the AR-M5 FTB is 84 cm. Depending on the type of butt, the length may increase to 94 cm. The barrel of such a rifle has a length of 320 mm, including a special 4 chamber muzzle brake compensator. The weight of the rifle from the Bulgarian gunsmiths is about 3,9 kg. This is without taking into account the store filled with cartridges.



The AR-M5 FTB assault rifle is also distinguished by the fact that it has a special bracket for side mounting of standard AK optics. The upper guide for equipping the rifle with additional accessories is a proven Picatinny rail. This is a full-size plank, under which a huge number of accessories for small arms are produced today.

The rifle has a pistol grip and an adjustable butt. Both the handle and the stock are made of polymeric material reinforced with fiberglass.



Such material today is called "Nylon 6". Arms of arms ordered by the company "Arsenal" in Israel from the company "FAB DEFENSE".

If the arrow butt is not needed when shooting, then this part of the rifle can be simply removed. In this case, the rifle can be equipped with various butts such as M4.

On the pistol grip in the rifle of the Bulgarian gunsmiths there is a switch of fire modes that can be installed in one of the 4-x positions. The main switch, when in the automatic fire position, activates this device. The main switch itself is a large lever mounted on the right side of the receiver - the usual position for those who use AKM. If with three modes of fire is understandable, then the fourth may raise questions. In fact, nothing complicated. The fourth mode of fire characteristic of modern weapons. This is a fire in short bursts - on an 3 shot.



The Bulgarian rifle assault rifle uses stores characteristic of Kalashnikov rifles and machine guns chambered for 7.62x39mm or for the NATO caliber 5.56X45mm. The company said that there is the possibility of using stores and western production.
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  1. +5
    16 July 2014 07: 30
    As they say find 10 differences. laughing
    1. +3
      16 July 2014 08: 08
      Hmm ... The base and principle of the Kalashnikov assault rifle are viewed in many MODELS of modern small arms !!!
      1. +1
        16 July 2014 21: 46
        Quote: Armagedon
        Hmm ... The base and principle of the Kalashnikov assault rifle are viewed in many MODELS of modern small arms !!!
        And what would you like from the Bulgarians, who never had their normal developers. Therefore, only tuning!
    2. +5
      16 July 2014 15: 00
      Quote: From Tver
      As they say find 10 differences. laughing

      like the hundredth series ...

      Kalashnikov assault rifle AK-102, AK-104, AK-105
    3. +2
      16 July 2014 18: 05
      It's a shame that they lick insolently, but these are the jambs of the USSR, probably ...
      Well, the last Kudrins unless they give money to invest in their industry?
      This is also the fifth column ... They need to be cleaned!
      1. +1
        16 July 2014 20: 52
        Technology patents do not exceed 25 years. More has passed since the invention! Accordingly, riveting copies can all and sundry, on strictly legal grounds.
        Even me, or neighbors!
  2. +1
    16 July 2014 07: 46
    HZ, what kind of modernization. The AK of the hundredth series is taken, decorated with a fashionable body kit and it turns out the Bulgarian assault rifle with a fire control mechanism mounted on the pistol grip. What is your contribution (except for the milling of the receiver preserved from Soviet times)?
  3. +1
    16 July 2014 07: 47
    Isn't milling cheaper than stamping?
    1. +2
      16 July 2014 08: 23
      Quote: nekish
      Isn't milling cheaper than stamping?

      Well, judging by the article, the Bulgarians somehow succeeded ...
    2. +1
      16 July 2014 20: 54
      Stamping has always been cheaper.
      1. +1
        16 July 2014 21: 57
        Quote: kavad
        Stamping has always been cheaper.
        It all depends on the t series. e. on the number of manufactured products. With a large series, stamping is much cheaper, with a small series, it makes no sense to develop and produce an expensive stamp.
      2. Victor-cort
        0
        18 July 2014 12: 31
        Quote: kavad
        Stamping has always been cheaper.

        It all depends on the equipment, there was a rumor that the Bulgarians in the 90s were purchased from the Germans with H&K, so now they cut the receiver to the AK cheaper than we stamp ... Anyway, but the Bulgarian Kalash are valued more than Russian (not to be confused with AK produced in the USSR - they already go like antiques)
  4. +1
    16 July 2014 08: 11
    Former brothers, and now enemies are cast out over other people's weapons because they cannot create their own. The Russian authorities do not even move to find a way to restore the right to create and modernize AK and other Soviet weapons only to our specialists. How much dough is lost? I think more than one penny.
    1. 0
      16 July 2014 22: 00
      Quote: erased
      . The Russian authorities do not even move to find a way to restore the right to create and modernize AK and other Soviet weapons only to our specialists. How much dough is lost? I think more than one penny.
      Sami at one time gave it all.
    2. +3
      17 July 2014 00: 52
      And you do not offend, the Bulgarians will never be Russian enemies, remember this.
      And on the issue of the rifle - someone wrote above that everyone is lazy to stamp. And most of all, from the Russians and the Soviet Union in the form of gifts of arms went to the Chinese, they know a lot about stamping, from AK to nuclear submarines.
      1. -1
        19 July 2014 22: 33
        And you do not offend, the Bulgarians will never be Russian enemies, remember this.
        However, the two world wars were against the Bulgarians. Unfortunately, much depends on politicians who to be friends with and who to fight with. hi
  5. 0
    16 July 2014 08: 24
    The Bulgarians are still tormenting the AK, they can’t come up with anything new, they would be equal to the Czechs!
    1. Peacemaker
      +2
      16 July 2014 11: 23
      The Bulgarians not only torture Kalashnikov, browning from them also lost their attention wink
      1. +3
        17 July 2014 00: 56
        Equalization of the best in the whole world has always been good practice, the glory of Russia only grows from this. And we don’t need to invent hot water again.
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  6. Gagarin
    +5
    16 July 2014 08: 24
    Are you kidding me? - hit once with a stamp on a finished sheet of tin or carry out multi-operational milling from a monolithic blank of expensive weapons-grade steel (with 80% waste of this steel into shavings), and this is not counting the man-hours of highly skilled workers. This was one of the main reasons why AKM at one time and replaced the AK-47. Although the frame itself, in practice, 47 is more tenacious.
    Quote: nekish
    Isn't milling cheaper than stamping?
    1. +1
      16 July 2014 09: 48
      AK type 1 was stamped ... but then AK type 2 was milled ... But the shiampovka was only mastered by the end of the 50s in the form of AKM. Looks like milling was cheaper than a multi-ton press and a matrix for it.
    2. +1
      16 July 2014 13: 50
      - If precision casting and CNC machines are used, the cost could be reduced ...
    3. Victor-cort
      0
      18 July 2014 12: 33
      Quote: Gagarin
      Are you kidding me? - hit once with a stamp on a finished sheet of tin or carry out multi-operational milling from a monolithic blank of expensive weapons-grade steel (with 80% waste of this steel into shavings), and this is not counting the man-hours of highly skilled workers. This was one of the main reasons why AKM at one time and replaced the AK-47. Although the frame itself, in practice, 47 is more tenacious.

      It’s one thing when a live turner mills, another thing when the CNC machine does the same ....
      1. 0
        22 August 2014 14: 32
        In the case of large-scale production, stamping is always cheaper than milling. And it does not depend on the CNC. The fact is that it is the consumption in the metal shavings that is the decisive factor. Well, the tool consumption. Milling cutters also need to be changed, more often than the die and punch.
        In addition, by selecting different types of stamping, hot volumetric or cold, you can create stresses in the metal and change the strength of the product, which is also very important.
        But all this is true for large-scale production, when the bill goes to tens of thousands of products. If there are several hundred of them, then it is more profitable to mill especially on CNC machines.
  7. Alex_Popovson
    +2
    16 July 2014 08: 52
    Yeshkin cat, Blackwater themselves re-riveted AK, called them X47, and successfully used it. In their workshop, about 5 years ago it was possible to purchase the 3rd number, if you are an American and a citizen (sewed-indoor, shadow business), generally without problems.
    Now the question. What for Bulgarians, it is unlikely that they will surprise anyone now, all the niches are occupied long ago, and the customizer firms are in the sea, in America or Canada, and even in France.
    1. +1
      16 July 2014 17: 50
      - This is when the trunk is cut almost under the gas outlet? Vivisectors .... smile
    2. +4
      17 July 2014 01: 00
      We should not surprise anyone, if only our army, which is still in stock, will arm, will be fine.
  8. 0
    16 July 2014 08: 52
    have an idea of ​​an assault rifle
    combine saiga 12 (on the saiga enter the fire mode of three rounds) and pp bison with auger magazine (set the bison to the bottom as under a rocket launcher)
  9. 0
    16 July 2014 09: 38
    Damn Pribluda hung on Kalash, called and sold. And interest is not paid.
    1. +2
      16 July 2014 09: 50
      what percent? A patent of 25 years (if I’m not mistaken) is valid - remember how old Kalash has been. Ar-15 is also riveted under different names for everyone.
  10. +7
    16 July 2014 12: 07
    Quote: nekish
    what percent? 25 years patent (if not mistaken)

    It seems like 15 years, but this is not the most important thing - a patent for AK was registered only in 1999, when all the terms of patent protection expired and, accordingly, can deliver only moral satisfaction. Bulgaria and many other countries during the USSR did not receive a license but a license for the production of a certain amount of weapons, this document clearly stipulated the terms of delivery in another country and allowed / not allowed the transfer of a license to third countries. What threatens them with the release of weapons under an expired license? nothing, only by the fact that we will not assist in setting up production, supplying equipment materials and informing about changes and improvements. The only thing that can be done in such a situation is to shout loudly to the whole world that, due to the lack of our production support, they make weapons not using technology, because of this, their oblique-crooked one quickly fails and is generally dangerous for the shooter (which by the way our not the smartest representatives often say).
    Well, Arsenal didn’t give a damn about all these statements, its products are mainly targeted at the US civilian market, where it takes the leading place in terms of sales of AK-shaped in the USA overtaking IZhmash (Kalashnikov concern), the main reason is that while IZHMASH yells from high stands the guys from the arsenal invest in production, produce options for every taste and color, the quality of their products is often higher than the curved crafts of Izhmash (who spoke with Saiga knows what I'm talking about).
  11. +2
    16 July 2014 12: 19
    Quote: Gagarin
    Are you kidding me? - hit once with a stamp on a finished sheet of tin or carry out multi-operational milling from a monolithic blank of expensive weapons-grade steel (with 80% waste of this steel into shavings), and this is not counting the man-hours of highly skilled workers. This was one of the main reasons why AKM at one time and replaced the AK-47. Although the frame itself, in practice, 47 is more tenacious.

    Everything is true except for one thing - the products are mainly exported to the USA, and there are enough people there who are ready to overpay for a tougher milled receiver, and accordingly this feature makes Arsenal AKs for many more preferable than other manufacturers.
    1. 0
      19 July 2014 00: 57
      By the way, Arsenal also makes with a stamped box (there are just plain copies of our AK74M, AK101 / 103, AK102 / 104/105), but the line with a milled receiver was the face of the company.
  12. +5
    16 July 2014 13: 46
    American plastic kit from the online store. 20-30 bucks gimmicks from Magpool & Co.

    Here is an American seriously engaged in Kalash: http://www.krebscustom.com

    Americans well done in terms of fine-tuning weapons. Of the AR-15 for $ 1,5-3 thousand, I can do it. It is worth learning from them. But only good and the best, if that.

    This Kalashik is pretty for me:
    1. 0
      16 July 2014 13: 52
      - The forearm and the Krebs receiver pad are like a box of Kalash smile
      This thing is made of aluminum ...
      1. +1
        16 July 2014 14: 06
        This is a commercial enterprise. Clients want more than in the database and are willing to pay for it. I understand them. I myself love a lot and enjoy shooting. But not for people.

        The Bulgarians also did not hang on a ball of plastic on their Kalash.
    2. 0
      16 July 2014 16: 09
      but you can question all is well, but how to pick out the dirt completely disassemble and remove the kit?
      1. +1
        16 July 2014 17: 31
        - There are from 4 to 6 "imbuses", attached to the receiver and the muff on the barrel, there is also a 2-point mount ... there are not many gimmicks ...
      2. 0
        16 July 2014 18: 18
        In-in, and I thought about it. Mud oh how much clings! Well this is how much to pick with pickers, what would clean !!! With this, it’s obviously not possible to crawl in rice fields in a plast form. Well, how after a body kit with dirt the frost freezes. Tin ... belay
  13. Gagarin
    +8
    16 July 2014 14: 26
    By kit I prefer our MK-107.
    1. 0
      22 August 2014 14: 35
      Body kit from Zenith. DTK, long fore-end, long cover of the gas outlet tube, butt and flashlight + "Tick"
  14. +1
    16 July 2014 14: 33
    Give me a kalash and a piece of bucks on top, I better do it.
  15. 0
    16 July 2014 15: 21
    I read the article, made the following conclusions for myself. From the obvious, the vent pipe is made under 90 * with respect to the barrel, I forgot why, but it is considered better than under 45 *, wear resistance or something. About the milled receiver. In this case, the question is why? She will be harder. A civilian weapon in fact, therefore, is unlikely to be subjected to extreme loads. And how much stronger it is ... And as for the distinguishing feature of the body kit, it has nothing to do with the barrel manufacturer. Moreover, I would have completed with plywood, whoever needs to, will buy it to their taste, and put something in between, well, neither here or there, sorry, there one butt can cost 15k rubles, someone needs it, but someone doesn’t. Just like the weaver strap on the receiver lid, maybe I need it only on a gas pipe .... Why did I write a comment, because I’m looking at buying VPO-136 and a little bit in the subject, although there is still a lot of incomprehensible.
    1. +1
      17 July 2014 08: 12
      Milling is a more accurate process than stamping. Fit parts will be better. In addition, many categorically do not accept stamping.
  16. +1
    16 July 2014 16: 02
    Quote: Fibrizio
    Why did I write a comment, because I’m looking at buying VPO-136 and a little in the subject, although there is still a lot of incomprehensible.

    Key words - "a little in the subject, although still a lot of incomprehensible."
    Quote: Fibrizio
    From the obvious, the vent pipe is made under 90 * in relation to the barrel, I forgot why, but it is considered better than under 45 *, wear resistance or something

    No better and no worse - the angle of inclination of the gas outlet affects the speed and volume of gas supply to the gas pipe and, accordingly, is linked to all other parameters, for example, AK / AKM angle of inclination is 45 g. - AK74 90g.
    Quote: Fibrizio
    Moreover, I would be equipped with plywood, whoever needs it will buy it to their taste

    This is one of the marketing mistakes of Izhmash - as a result, Arsenal with dozens of models for every taste and color outperformed it in the American market. (Following your logic, cars must be produced in the same configuration and in the same color - who needs to buy the kit and repaint it later).
    Quote: Fibrizio
    She will be harder. A civilian weapon in fact, therefore, is unlikely to be subjected to extreme loads. And how much stronger it is ...

    Two nuances, the first Arsenal mainly supplies weapons to the US civilian market, and there quite a lot of people have the right to buy full-auto weapons, the second milled receiver is harder as a result of the accuracy of vehicles. it's better.
    1. +2
      16 July 2014 17: 27
      It is difficult to sell plywood rifles when Arches are already sporting in carbon fiber new clothes, and inside there are aviation titanium, alloys used in the manufacture of engines for Formula 1, the most advanced specials. coatings, dozens of options for triggers for the most demanding tastes, other tactical bells and whistles, the latest materials and technologies that were used only in the aerospace industry yesterday:

      And by the end of the year, they generally threaten to switch completely to: http://amalgamatedti.com/arms.html

      Not to mention the assortment of state-of-the-art sights and night vision devices that are designed to work in conjunction with AR-like, ballistic computers.

      It’s time to forget about plywood and never remember from now on.
      1. 0
        16 July 2014 17: 42
        - Ours would have brought the quality to mind, eliminate the "+/- two fingers" tolerances, did not use Chinese reinforcing steel, - in short, they did AK RUKAMI smile - he would have served it as well. No wonder the Americans, with all the wealth of choice, buy AK, even the Chinese ...
        1. +1
          16 July 2014 17: 53
          Chinese and Romanian Kalash in the US are not in demand. It is Russians who are valued, of good production years and with milled receiver boxes. Everything was written correctly in the comments.
          1. 0
            16 July 2014 18: 02
            - Here! Plus the normal chrome plating of the chamber and barrel ... and of the bolt carrier at the same time, bluing instead of paint. So, they could do it efficiently, but either they were lazy, or too clever ... We had AKM and AKMS on the "urgent" - after them "74" was perceived as tin!
            1. +1
              16 July 2014 19: 20
              Here is the nickel-borated AR-ki gate group how it works:



              Although now titanium-based alloys are already beginning to be used with special coatings in AR-ka, they also hold excellent in the most severe conditions. And the details of the shutter larva from SAE 9310 steel, which are used in the details of Formula 1 engines, are sharpened, and they also nickel-boron. The best shutter groups today for the AR-15. And light weight, and this is accuracy and accuracy of fire, and thermal and wear resistance, and the highest strength. But, more expensive than standard.
              1. 0
                16 July 2014 19: 54
                - That is, outdated constructions can be improved by applying, in their production, modern materials ...
                - It could well be applied in our country, especially since the Army has been quantitatively reduced, and the mobile reserve is generally unclear in what state ... Let it be less, but better ...
          2. +3
            16 July 2014 20: 03
            AK-47-2 assault rifle (it was he who had a milled receiver, from a workpiece weighing 2,6 kg after 120 operations received a box weighing 0,6 kg) - a museum rarity, because They did not produce it for long because of the high cost of production (there were no processing centers in the late forties of the last century). They started milling the box after it turned out that the stamped box with the riveted parts falls apart in intensive bursts of fire: rivets fly out. The notorious Schmeiser Sturmgever-44 had the same trouble, and it was not recommended to land bursts from it.
            Licenses for the production of AK were handed out because in those years Izhmash was up to its ears loaded with the production of weapons for the SA, and it was necessary to unify the weapons of the armies of the countries participating in the Air Force. That is why the conditions of the licenses are preferential, which, moreover, permitting trade in weapons with third countries - this is how the USSR supplied Kalash regimes with which it was not very profitable (for political reasons) to contact directly, anyway, without Moscow's permission, none of the VD countries could sneeze ...
            And Izhmash is not able to produce weapons of decent quality (especially for personal use, and not for mass army purchases). The enterprise is designed for mass production, and not for the production of piece weapons. Production at "Izhmash" has not been carried out for thirty years, respectively, the equipment has not changed for fifty or sixty years (surely something removed from the Walter plant is still working). The enterprise has to be demolished for a long time, and then ... But, first, a large government order is needed. And for this to appear, an enterprise is needed that is able to fulfill it ... A vicious circle.
            So that the gunsmiths of Izhevsk did not scream much, they were transferred the rights to the design of AK, long sold half of the planet. It's time to recognize the fact that Russia does not have a manufacturer of small arms, because our gun mills are not able to produce products of acceptable quality due to the deterioration of the antediluvian equipment. And factories cannot make money on their own for technical re-equipment due to the lack of a civilian arms market in Russia (Clinton forbade us to buy our weapons to America, and in other countries the circulation of weapons is much more limited). The situation is stalemate - our country pisses on allowing citizens to own serious small arms and does not have money to support arms manufacturers. Mass production of weapons - the song is extremely specific. As if later (and very soon) did not have to bite your elbows to the heels ...
            And the various AK customizations performed around the world are not too scary. They are designed specifically for the market of piece weapons. No army in the world will buy them, no one will allocate money to it.
            1. +1
              16 July 2014 20: 18
              - It is understandable, the foreman will suck his eyes to the "customizer"! laughing
              - But there were also worthy manufacturers: "Crvena Zastava" for example ...
  17. 0
    16 July 2014 18: 35
    Quote: saygon66
    normal chrome chamber and barrel ... well, and the bolt frame at the same time

    You will still laugh, but the "bolt frames", like the bolts on our weapons, have never been chrome plated because it is not needed, but the fact that the three-line SKS and AK flaunt white bolts is not chrome, but just the absence of any coating - earlier the details of the bolt group that's what the "white metal group" was called, about bluing - bluing as such has not been used in our weapons since the beginning of the 20th century, originally it was replaced by oxidation, which, in long-barreled military weapons, in the early 70s replaced painting with baked enamel ... So the AKMs of the later release were painted the same way as the AK-74s, with the exception of AKMSs, which were mainly stamped by Tula, according to some sources, the Tula switched to painting only in the 80s. Now, regarding the paint itself - I personally do not see a big difference in the durability of the coating between oxidation and the color used by the paint, and there is no point in changing the awl to soap, but it is quite possible to replace the paint with a two-component one that is more resistant to abrasion (like Duracotta), we are not talking about military weapons, but about weapons for the civilian market, it is quite possible that a small increase in cost is more than offset by the attractiveness for the buyer.
    1. 0
      16 July 2014 19: 47
      - With chromium it can be over the edge, I agree ... But here you go: nickel-boron, or phosphating, but not with raw iron paint! About weapons for the civilian market - it's a terrible tale (I use Saigu) ... it wouldn’t be painted in an expensive way, but sanded for a start! smile
      - In short, it would be the quality of production, and we will be able to paint (burn-chrome-phosphate) ourselves! Not?
      1. 0
        16 July 2014 21: 21
        Well, as if from saigas, paint is easily washed off with a wash for car paints - it is sold in any auto parts, it is really better to paint with dyurkot decently but it is quite affordable and the result is excellent.
        1. 0
          16 July 2014 21: 41
          - Yeah, paint it green and throw it into the grass! smile
  18. KoRSaR1
    +1
    16 July 2014 20: 00

    And I would take this
  19. +2
    16 July 2014 21: 48
    I am from Bulgaria. I did not know that small arms were still being produced in Kazanlak. Thanks to the author for the article!
    1. +3
      17 July 2014 01: 27
      Kindly, is it any less necessary for us to report to you where and how is the guns in Bulgaria?
      This I explain to my compatriot that no one in Bulgaria reports to us, ordinary people, who makes what weapons and where they sell them.
  20. +1
    16 July 2014 22: 31
    AAA where is the photo from the side of the shutter?) An interesting method of fastening the top rail ...
  21. +1
    16 July 2014 22: 39
    The barrel of such a rifle has a length of 320 mm, including a special 4-chamber muzzle brake compensator.

    In the photo in the article, there is never a DTK, but a slotted beach protector (PG) wink
  22. 0
    17 July 2014 12: 39
    Quote: saygon66
    - But there were also worthy manufacturers: "Crvena Zastava" for example ...

    According to the recollections of our volunteers who fought in Yugoslavia, the quality of the metal and coating of the Yugov AK was much worse than that of our familiar AKMs. Although the Yugas have one feature that American buyers like - the receiver and the outpost liner are copied from the PKK, the outer diameter of the barrel is also similar to that of the PKK, probably the Yugs decided not to bother with the differences and made "maximum unification".
    1. 0
      19 July 2014 14: 28
      - Perhaps the "heavy barrel" meant firing a rifle grenade ...
      1. 0
        19 July 2014 14: 32
        - Nozzle and scope for jugo m70
  23. Central
    0
    18 July 2014 23: 48
    The Bulgarian AK-based assault rifle is valued more than the Russian one just for the milled box and its heat capacity, the same with the Israeli Galil and the early Finnish AK manufactured by Valmet.

    And about the AK clones, I’ll tell a joke. The Azerbaijani army, woefully a connoisseur in my face by its appearance / characteristics, identifies an AK without a store as AKM, i.e. caliber 7,62x39, but it wasn’t there, it turned out 5,45x39. I liked the German AKs (MPiKM) more, for some reason they were called Dominican in our country, it is also stamped, but it’s more convenient than the AKM’s wire butt.
    1. 0
      19 July 2014 11: 53
      The stamping of an automatic transmission is an indicator of the manufacturability of production, and the myths about the milled box, as they were myths, will remain - at least mill the box on the AK, at least cast it into a chill mold, you cannot make a high point out of it, and you don’t need to, AK has other tasks, and he does a great job with them. No one has yet learned how to make a classic AKmoid better and better quality than at home, and on the "Bulgarians" and similar clones from low-grade steels to drool on the "Bulgarians" and similar clones from low-grade steel - childish is the right word smile
  24. 0
    20 July 2014 18: 58
    Quote: Castor_ka
    Nobody has yet learned to make a classic Akmoid better and better than at home,

    If it's not a secret, how are your conclusions confirmed? Dozens of kalashas and their civilian versions passed through my hands, and if for the Moscow Region and others the quality has dropped, but it’s still acceptable, then any saiga MK, even Legion’s, saiga MK can be safely changed to Arsenal AK.
  25. 0
    20 July 2014 19: 00
    Quote: Castor_ka
    at least mash onto an AK box, cast it into a chill mold, you won’t make a high-precision from it

    The question is not in high-precision, but in a more rigid design that positively affects the scatter during auto shooting.
  26. 0
    29 July 2014 22: 29
    Quote: KoRSaR1

    And I would take this

    resembles the Zorg assault rifle from the movie "The Fifth Element"
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    7 August 2016 04: 39
    Well done "little brothers" do not roll cotton wool. These are our "owners" and other women of easy virtue who are used to endlessly skimming the cream of the Soviet heritage and do not want to move.