Chechen opinion about Ukrainians

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A Chechen, Raduyev and Baysarovets, with whom I have a constant clinch and srach, who doesn’t really like Russians (albeit adequately) unexpectedly slashed ... Surprised ...

Perepost from another forum. (Someone "Machine-gun tape", from lichki it is known that his name is Tagir)

I tried to systematize the essence into one, based on the experience of communication with the Russians, "for which the Russian does not respect the Ukrainians."


1) The first, of course, is for unscrupulousness and for the "truth" for every day. Russian loves fundamentalism, but not a floating opinion. For him, a floating opinion is a lie. As far as I remember the Russians, they had the truth that in the 91st, in the 2014th. And if this is true and has evolved, then very little. The Ukrainian always adjusts events every time, which creates the illusion of unscrupulousness and adaptability.

2) The Russian does not like betrayal and feels traitors in the Ukrainians. He knows that the Ukrainian will always have an argument to betray. The arguments may be different, but the essence is the same - to cause maximum harm to the Russian citizen. Everything that a Ukrainian does, he does not for himself, but to harm the Russians. As a rule, they do not care about themselves, and therefore they live poorly.

3) Insecurity is the most important factor. Today is one, tomorrow is another. See paragraph one.

4) Russians do not respect Ukrainians for disrespect for their own stories. For Ukrainian history does not exist. This is for him only a system of closed arguments, but not science. He can rewrite it endlessly, because the Ukrainian still does not know his history. Ukrainian for Russians is "Ivan, not remembering kinship."

5) The Russian does not accept blaming someone else. Yes, the US is an enemy for him, but you rarely hear from a Russian that the US is to blame for Russia's problems. The Russian blames only himself for his troubles. The Ukrainian, on the contrary, is never to blame. He is all in white and a victim. Ukraine is a caramel country, near which there are only heaps of manure that prevent it from living.

6) Ukrainians, in comparison with Russians, do not feel the intimate zone of a person, his untouchable freedom. Ukrainians sometimes easily invade it with rudeness and unsportsmanlike behavior. No matter how the Russians are dispersed by Berkut, they will never pursue them at home - sports behavior is the essence of Russians. Ukrainians are not, they are trying to hurt the most alive, which emphasizes their petty, innate meanness. In Russia, the latter is zapadlo.

7) Gossip and rumors are not respected in Russia. They simply despise. In Ukraine, no.

8) Demagogy. In everything and everywhere, with the use of double standards. See paragraph one. The Russians are still fundamentalists. They, even to me a Chechen, are easier to understand, and easier to negotiate with them. Moreover, you can agree with the Russians for a long time, but with the Ukrainians for an hour ... Next, their Wishlist Ukrainians cross out the contract.

9) It is not love for one’s homeland and people that is true Ukrainian, despite radical nationalism. A Ukrainian never compares Ukraine and Russia; he always compares Europe and Russia. This proves that unconsciously Ukraine is not for him ....

10) A Ukrainian will not see a log in his eye, but he sees a straw from a Russian.

11) From the experience of the Chechen war, me observable. Ukrainian will never fight on the front line like a Russian. Ukrainians were Gelayev for sabotage. The Russians, we pulled out of puddles of urine and feces, and in tears, but they do not leave positions. Actually, it always put me in a stupor. Ukrainians are fighting, when luck is only on their side. Actually, here I agree with Khattab, who called the Russians “stubborn silence” ...
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  1. +276
    15 July 2014 07: 51
    It is nice when such words about the Russians are clearly not written by a friend. Praise from the enemy is more important.
    1. BYV
      +58
      15 July 2014 07: 59
      I agree, such praise is worth a lot. However, 5 point is controversial. We also love to scold the United States, Europe, etc.
      And yes, paragraph 11 is the true truth, to which he himself has witnessed more than once.
      1. +57
        15 July 2014 08: 16
        Well, I don’t even know what to write. I described it correctly, but I do not want to be arrogant for all Russians.

        But for the fact that he is an enemy - his death is fierce, according to his deeds and merits.
        1. +59
          15 July 2014 08: 34
          Such words from an enemy are worth a lot, but don’t have to dash with pride, such estimates must be constantly, unfortunately, proved when the enemy forgets about the Russians.
          1. +25
            15 July 2014 09: 46
            Actually, here I agree with Khattab, who called the Russians “stubborn silent men” ...

            1. Luzhichanin
              -106
              15 July 2014 14: 10
              This article is called upon us brothers to hate each other even more, and the Chechen pouring praise to donkeys reading it and exclaiming "I am pleased!" love instead of a brother with some kind of fright.

              MINUS article, bold
              1. kay4yk
                +64
                15 July 2014 15: 49
                Well, yes, dear, in some Ukrainians I noticed an opinion like yours. That a Ukrainian is a bigger brother to a Russian than, for example, a Tatar. What it is based on I can’t understand. For us, the Tatar, the Bashkirs are the same brother as the Belarusian. And these are not empty words. If you analyze the facial features of a person who calls himself Russian, you can see that the face is closer to Asian than to European. My grandmothers and father are from Ukraine, and my wife has clearly Tatar roots. I am Russian and children too
                1. Luzhichanin
                  +3
                  15 July 2014 19: 18
                  Quote: kay4yk
                  from yes, dear, in some Ukrainians I noticed an opinion like yours. That a Ukrainian is a bigger brother to a Russian than, for example, a Tatar.

                  no need to ascribe to me words that I have not spoken
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                3. +42
                  15 July 2014 21: 02
                  I have lived an entire conscious life among the Tatars. and I will say that the Tatars are very good and faithful friends and worthy and smart opponents (if there are graters). Very cruel and decisive, but always with a conscience (concepts) and truth.
                  Ukrainians (Westerners) in comparison with them-just rubbish.
                  And This is not a red word, but as the classic says, we read this play and even were in the lead roles ...
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                  2. Shur
                    +1
                    17 July 2014 21: 26
                    There are all kinds, you cannot say for all. There is such a habit that part after part of others in the crowd hide, is also a trait. On the 11th point, it is understandable, if young men are called up to throw on the front lines in a real battle, then what can we expect that everyone will die bravely and calmly? Where in what environment have they been prepared for this, by what principles, who? One thing I’ll say is not all of them, since my 78th year many haven’t returned, there are crippled, there are also problems with the head, but these guys from RT and I think it affected.
                  3. +1
                    18 July 2014 00: 52
                    I did not live among the Tatars. But it was not enough to communicate and work.
                    People are different. But the bulk of them convinced me of the validity of the Russian proverb: "An uninvited guest is worse than a Tatar."
                4. +34
                  16 July 2014 12: 51
                  Russian is not a nationality, but a mentality! ... It so happened in our culture that the Russians do not fight with the peoples at all, they fight with evil. And evil for a Russian person cannot be associated with a whole nation. Therefore, the Russians are ready to fight not with the Ukrainians, but with the Nazis. And this is even a moral duty for a Russian person.
                  1. vladimirovich39
                    +4
                    16 July 2014 18: 18
                    That's right!
                  2. +9
                    16 July 2014 22: 51
                    Quote: mister2013
                    Russian is not a nationality, but a mentality!

                    That's right! Russian is a state of mind ..
                    1. +1
                      18 July 2014 12: 15
                      Yes, anyone who feels himself Russian, thinks in Russian and for Russia - is already more Russian than a Russian saying that he is Russian, but he himself went to the swamp area or supporting the white-winged puppies!
                  3. Shur
                    0
                    17 July 2014 21: 29
                    Rather, Russians are carriers of the very knowledge and culture that you have called mentality. So far, however, it has not been realized. Very much confused, forgotten.
                5. +8
                  16 July 2014 14: 34
                  In general, Russian and Chinese brothers forever. I would say that after the prescription of neighborhood and friendship, Russians began to consider the Tatars, Bashkirs, Chuvashs (all the people of Russia) brothers, as is customary for old friends, who went through many things together. Perhaps such fraternization is stronger than blood, but no matter how much your own brother spits in your soul, he will remain so. It hurts, we live with it.
                  1. nickname 1 and 2
                    0
                    16 July 2014 15: 54
                    And where does the nationality?

                    There are good and bad people, there is a different understanding of "what is good and what is bad"! And then someone in what "nonsense" goes off scale! Hundreds of books have been written about how other people managed to change their beliefs.

                    After all, from their "off scale" they are right!

                    Well, there are no ones who do contrary to their beliefs.
                    For persuasion now not persecuted (normal people)
                    They would not commit crimes ... and "let them live!"
                  2. -1
                    18 July 2014 12: 21
                    and he was a Ukrainian until the end of the 80s - but over the past 4-5 months the phrase "Ukrainians are our brothers!" and I do not even address the Ukrainians - I am waiting for the start of the war and the call to express my attitude towards the Ukrainians by my actions.
                    only Ukrainians will receive affection and love from me :-)
              2. -9
                15 July 2014 16: 21
                Is it because you are Ukrainian?
                1. kay4yk
                  +8
                  15 July 2014 17: 00
                  and at least a Ukrainian. what is your question? not catching up
                2. Mikhail Ishutin
                  +3
                  15 July 2014 19: 53
                  And I'm not Ukrainian. And having lived in Alma-Ata for 25 years I have not met (this is something described in the article), and there were a lot of Ukrainians there. When I moved to St. Petersburg in 1996, I got into the "friendly Ukrainian team" for the first time, there was a strong impression that I had fallen behind enemy lines. I would like to note "friendly, including the Donetsk team." Until today, I have a lot of respect for people from Poltava, Kiev, Ivano-Frankovsk, Odessa (say lucky, I think so too). And it seems strange that educated people talk about 23 years of fooling the population, according to my observations, it should be multiplied by three.
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                4. Shur
                  +1
                  17 July 2014 21: 31
                  For me there is no such nationality, it was invented in Germany and Austro-Hungarian. Remember even earlier they dreamed of organizing a Cossack. This is just clouding and Janissaryism and nothing more. Who are those who have relatives here and there? By blood, by genes it is one, by the muddy liquid embedded in the head with Euro-paces there are differences. The language is a complete remake in essence, if Russian has undergone severe abstraction and global imperial changes, then they are thought up from and to.
                5. 0
                  28 July 2014 12: 00
                  A comment in which the author was offended by the way Ukrainians are represented has been removed here. And without that commentary, my question (“Is it because you are Ukrainian?”) Really looks idiotic.
                  .
                  Yes, and this my answer fit in a completely different place. So this comment has lost its meaning.
              3. -18
                15 July 2014 17: 17
                I support the whole-cheer patriotic fake, moreover, composed by the author of the article and not by any Chechen ----- as in Krylov’s fable, the cuckoo praises the cock
                I won’t be surprised if the same author wrote an article on the ranking of armies through the eyes of American mercenaries where they put us first
                I'm for patriotism, but don’t need it so clumsy-the effect is the opposite
                so MINUS
                1. Luzhichanin
                  -18
                  15 July 2014 19: 17
                  this is how the matrix is ​​created ... it seems to be irrelevant to reality, but nevertheless people think that this fiction is reality.
                  people trust faith more than their feelings. you plus for the fable, because this is the current trend of "our power".

                  people, believe your feelings, and not an imposed belief in idols !!!
                2. 0
                  18 July 2014 12: 24
                  yes, it looks like a fake - like that rating of soldiers of different armies - I agree.
                  Russians come first - and Amer said that. military type! Yes, that would be Amer. the military said that the Russians are better than them-amers!
              4. macarque
                +14
                15 July 2014 17: 35
                Who is your brother? the one who shoots fellow countrymen from howitzers, and liquid crap on the Russians? remembering the stupid action movie "brother how many is there" ... you are not a brother to me. not a brother. am
                1. Luzhichanin
                  -1
                  15 July 2014 19: 20
                  Quote: Macarka
                  Who is your brother? the one who shoots fellow countrymen from howitzers, and liquid crap on the Russians? remembering the stupid action movie "brother how many is there" ... you are not a brother to me. not a brother.

                  I did not call them my brothers, but you provoke ethnic hatred.
                  it is strange that moderators do not follow.
                2. +10
                  16 July 2014 01: 34
                  Quote: Macarka
                  Who is your brother? the one who shoots fellow countrymen from howitzers, and liquid crap on the Russians? remembering the stupid action movie "brother how many is there" ... you are not a brother to me. not a brother. am


                  Well, let’s quarrel even more here, as the Ukrainians-over on the Maidan in Kiev, shoot at each other the only way. Let's be smarter.
                3. 0
                  17 July 2014 12: 48
                  Makarka (1) July 15, 2014 17:35 p.m. ↑
                  Who is your brother? the one who shoots fellow countrymen from howitzers, and liquid crap on the Russians? remembering the stupid action movie "brother how many is there" ... you are not a brother to me. not a brother.
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                  in vain you don’t choose parents and brothers, and by the number of minuses it’s very obvious to regret that the vast majority think the same as you do, so the blood bath is still ahead
              5. +14
                15 July 2014 19: 31
                so this
                Chechen Raduevets and Baysarovets
                by the name of Tagir ... a little bursting ... he equated Ukrainians and Ukrainians. All that he quoted .. it is written about Ukrainians ... and the Ukrainians (real Ukrainians) are the same Russian.
                1. +8
                  15 July 2014 19: 54
                  yes zapadentsi and uraintsy is a big difference
                  so it’s not necessary to all under one comb
                  dazapadenzi for us became traitors even under the king of peas and after
                  one uniate church is worth
                  1. +20
                    15 July 2014 21: 38
                    That's just the point, my Ukrainian grandfather or Little Russia (Kuchurgan station near Odessa) fought during the Second World War (the Kingdom of Heaven already, unfortunately, died in 2009, and now does not see all this bacchanalia and dominance of banderlogs), there were 3 wounds, tank driver, driver of a heavy tank. The tank commander is Russian, the fur is my grandfather is Ukrainian, the shooter-radio operator Tatar (and this was) the shooter infecting Belarus, the gunner is Russian. AND THERE WAS NO DIFFERENCE WHICH A NATION, ALL Fought, ALL WERE CITIZENS OF THE USSR. There were cowards and heroes of ALL NATIONALITIES. So you are right you can’t row all under one comb. hi
                    1. Bloody attendant
                      0
                      18 July 2014 09: 34
                      The article is strange ... Very. The purpose of the article is also not clear and absurd: the Chechen assesses the relationship between Russians and Ukrainians. The author puts an equal sign between Ukrainians and Westerners. Zapadentsy are not Ukrainians. This is a smelly mixture of nationalities. I can safely put an equal sign between Westerners and Chechens. Both those and others always were our enemies, and those others periodically betrayed us, after which they brutally received what they deserved. Like the Chechens, the Zapadents are a poorly educated people, with a backward undeveloped language, without written language and terrible xenophobia. I believe that Galicia should be cleaned up and an outpost a la Grozny (now the city of Grozny) erected there.
                  2. -1
                    18 July 2014 12: 28
                    Well, your mother! why are you giving up on your own! zapadentsi, Ukrainians - you are already one for us! your brain has been washed - and you think the same way as they have lately.
                    and I have a presentiment - as soon as Ukraine smells of fried food in the near future, there will be more and more people who will say "we are for you, Russians! and we have always been! this is all zapadentsi, this is not us!"

                    you, you, you too!
                    their silence and silent support at least!

                    and those Ukrainians who are really for us, for Russia - they are now fighting in the Donbas against the American puppets and the US puppet army, each soldier of which is the same puppet, only on a smaller scale than the piglet.
              6. Mikhail Ishutin
                +7
                15 July 2014 19: 32
                Provocation? I met different Ukrainians and to agree is to follow the lead, to lower to the level of galloping and ridiculous. One sad Ukrainian in the near future will not be a nationality but DIAGNOSIS. There are honest, decent Ukrainians and humiliate the humiliated is not OUR. Rather, to a specific article, the Ukrainian should be replaced with another word - there is a topic for discussion.
                1. +2
                  15 July 2014 22: 05
                  Ukrainian should be replaced with another word - there is a topic for discussion.

                  Moderators will not miss this word.
                2. +3
                  16 July 2014 11: 45
                  that's all right - but the environment crushes, and the historical roots dictate! ... and it turns out - Western ... mentality, sir, however, and profitable, for nowadays! ours from Russia also ran to the Maidan - to rob, raise the attendants under the guise of "rrrevolution" ...
              7. +12
                15 July 2014 21: 53
                Ukrainians who defend Lugansk. They stand for Ukraine. And who is fighting from the west, I know hell.
              8. +7
                16 July 2014 01: 36
                Quote: Luzhichanin
                This article is called upon us brothers to hate each other even more, and the Chechen pouring praises to donkeys who read it and exclaim "I am pleased!" love instead of a brother with some kind of fright

                and now it is easy to trace that Russians are “forced” to hate Ukrainians in exactly the same ways as Ukrainians were forced to hate Russians. Only with more accelerated and proven (and simpler) methods.
                And what is strange - Russians are no worse than Ukrainians ...
                And the crowd picks up these articles ... and the voice of reason is not dominated ...
                How do you differ from Ukrainians in this case?
                Are you told that you are unique? Ukrainians too.
                You are told not like that, but those others - to the Ukrainians the same
                They tell you that you are doing everything right and have always done right - but the same thing ...
                WAKE UP! Think gray matter, not emotions ....
                and you also blame the Ukrainians for becoming so-and have worked out the funds for them, and now for you .. Just the same-and you all amuse yourself ...
                1. +3
                  16 July 2014 11: 53
                  ... and now it is easy to trace that Russians are “forced” to hate Ukrainians in exactly the same ways as Ukrainians were forced to hate Russians. Only with more accelerated and proven (and simpler) methods.
                  And what is strange - Russians are no worse than Ukrainians ...
                  And the crowd picks up these articles ... and the voice of reason is not dominated ...
                  How do you differ from Ukrainians in this case?


                  I drove (behind the wheel) and accompanied humanitarian aid to the South-East four times, and helped to collect, sometimes not quite "humane" humanitarian aid ... no one forced, dissuaded - before the scandal! and I'm not a militant, and not a career soldier, but a very elderly and slightly unhealthy person ... here and there I broke my arm, and exacerbation of gastritis ...
                  I lived my life in this camp, and what's what, IMHO! and until recently, at work there - and throughout the then and former Soviet Union ... and I am a sensitive person, they say - "like a woman ...", so I sense both lies and truth right in my gut, I rarely make mistakes, confirmed by life.
                  probably in childhood "I read the necessary books" ...
                2. 0
                  16 July 2014 15: 29
                  It seems to me that Ukrainians have always been close to Russians, Don Cossacks and Zaporozhye Cossacks went to Turkish cities, liberated Crimea as part of the tsar’s army, conquered Siberia, settled the Kuban, were in leading positions in the tsarist and Soviet army, suddenly everyone became traitors cowards ready to kill from behind?!?
                  1. +1
                    18 July 2014 12: 33
                    at a long time ago, - right now everything has changed, - right now everything is like this. green paper power
                  2. Bloody attendant
                    0
                    19 August 2014 15: 57
                    Of course not. But your people succumbed to provocations. Became nationalistic. He did not rise to fight against the fascists. He allowed mending atrocities. Round the clock, you are obsessed on TV with us and our President. Even in the southeast stupidly flee to Russia. Here is the result.
                3. +4
                  16 July 2014 19: 11
                  It turned out that we are different. Russians didn’t have such a howl or hatred as on the same censor even in the first Chechen one. And Russians, not by nationality, but by spirit, read native propaganda between the lines perfectly. I see from my colleagues. And this is massive. Find me the same hate site as a censor among Russian sites, and I completely agree with you, Crystal ... hi
              9. +7
                16 July 2014 01: 47
                Quote: Luzhichanin
                This article is called upon us brothers to hate each other even more, and the Chechen pouring praise to donkeys reading it and exclaiming "I am pleased!" love instead of a brother with some kind of fright.

                MINUS article, bold

                Brothers, talk. Nu-nu ...
                on what ukroresurs do not go though Unian, even though the censor or even the commander in chief there SUCH "brotherly" love that Cain with his pitchfork nervously smokes on the sidelines suffering from an inferiority complex.
                1. Luzhichanin
                  -1
                  16 July 2014 17: 17
                  in spite of the efforts of moderator hard workers, there are also many of them, especially on such topics: they are clearly becoming more active in order to incite hatred
              10. zvbyf
                +5
                16 July 2014 11: 39
                Who is it - "... us brothers ..."? fool Brothers live peacefully, and respect each other, protect, protect. And this does not depend on the country where the brothers live ... And if a brother tells his brother, I hate you because your mother loves you more than me, he’s not a brother anymore, even if the same blood flows in his veins in yours ...
              11. +1
                16 July 2014 12: 07
                delete koment guy
              12. +1
                16 July 2014 14: 30
                Perhaps the article is not worth a minus. Much has been systematized, but before that, one still has to think of it. But there is probably harm in it too. I agree with the author, I have something to contempt with dill for. But let’s separate them from normal Ukrainians - there are none, and they are our blood brothers.
              13. 0
                16 July 2014 16: 40
                In my opinion, brotherhood will be bad for us for a long time. Even in everyday life, brothers fight, and sometimes they are enemies worse than strangers. So after all that has happened, it remains only to repeat the "theirs" verse "WE WILL NEVER BE BROTHERS. Now for sure
              14. 77bob1973
                0
                16 July 2014 23: 25
                To me such a Chechen is a greater friend than inadequate and unpredictable as a weather vane, crest!
          2. +1
            16 July 2014 10: 18
            In Dill, the history of the Second World War was rewritten. And Europe is looking there too. Well, for all comers, we can re-educate her!
        2. +14
          15 July 2014 17: 42
          There is no praise here. There is a statement of facts and an element of respect for Russians as worthy opponents. As for the Chechens, according to my observations, one Chechen among the Russians is the cutest person, two are already proud people, three are very proud! four are dangerous. All that is more - save faster!
          1. 0
            17 July 2014 06: 19
            / Naum /
            And according to my observation, the opposite is true!
        3. +2
          15 July 2014 20: 21
          But for the fact that he is an enemy - his death is fierce, according to his deeds and merits.


          It is unlikely that he is an enemy, rather neutral, and most importantly adequate, otherwise he would write posts from the hideaway dwellings in between terrorist attacks!
        4. Bormental
          +2
          16 July 2014 18: 14
          Better an outright enemy than a fake crest brother-friend.
      2. wrm
        wrm
        +42
        15 July 2014 08: 41
        I scold the United States, but I do not blame them for throwing rubbish bins and cigarette butts (at best) in mimi, taking dogs for walks where children walk, and then growing.
        1. +11
          15 July 2014 11: 13
          Quote: wrm
          I scold the United States, but I do not blame them for throwing rubbish bins and cigarette butts (at best) in mimi, taking dogs for walks where children walk, and then growing.

          I agree 100%. It all depends on the parents, how you educate it will be so.
        2. +5
          15 July 2014 19: 46
          Quote: wrm
          I scold us, but don't blame


          Rather, we scold the United States, for that "WHAT they do "and not for"because they make".
          For example, Ukraine, scolding them for that, that they are doing there, but scolding themselves, in the face of our government, for the fact that they succeeded.

          Scolding for what they do all over the world, BUT we only blame ourselves for not being able to do this.
      3. +26
        15 July 2014 09: 56
        [quote = BYV] However, 5 is a moot point. We also love to scold the USA,
        the fact that the potato did not climb well, or for broken roads, we usually do not blame the USA for the USA. If the troubles of Syria and Iraq mean their devastation and revelry of the Wahhabis as personal grief, then yes, the fault of the USA is undeniable for us.
      4. +15
        15 July 2014 10: 03
        However, 5 point is controversial. We also love to scold the United States, Europe, etc.


        alas, this is not "abuse", but a statement of obvious facts !!!
      5. +5
        15 July 2014 13: 08
        But does anyone blame the US for Russian problems? Even what they really are to blame for is not blamed, as a rule.
        1. 0
          18 July 2014 12: 37
          stupid, but what only in Russian!
          and is Israel bombing the gas sector ?! and igil (right now they hush up about him, but how loudly they spoke just about three weeks ago!) rushing to baghdad ?! and Vietnam is showing off in front of China ?! and ... insert anything - and it will be the United States.

          and besides that, i think the usa should be destroyed.
      6. Punkt
        0
        15 July 2014 15: 16
        yes, to Europe, I personally like to China, and there, in the normal sense of the word, I have enough of my problems, but about the United States, for example, from friends I heard that ordinary people there love people who work and respect first of all those people around whoever works a lot and is good, and they relate to them (and to the Russians, by the way) who work there appropriately, respectfully, the people worked there for a long time in the mid-2000s, normal people, and if they see that you are working hard, they are ready to forgive a lot - like untimely smoke break at work, simply saying, you didn’t dig into one place there, you live and live for yourself
      7. Punkt
        0
        15 July 2014 15: 16
        yes, to Europe, I personally like to China, and there, in the normal sense of the word, I have enough of my problems, but about the United States, for example, from friends I heard that ordinary people there love people who work and respect first of all those people around whoever works a lot and is good, and they relate to them (and to the Russians, by the way) who work there appropriately, respectfully, the people worked there for a long time in the mid-2000s, normal people, and if they see that you are working hard, they are ready to forgive a lot - like untimely smoke break at work, simply saying, you didn’t dig into one place there, you live and live for yourself
      8. 0
        15 July 2014 15: 40
        I agree to the account of paragraph 5.
      9. +1
        15 July 2014 16: 05
        5-th okay, but 4-th. Ukrainians know their history, and are ashamed of it, and therefore rewrite it under their Ukrainian ego.
        1. +1
          16 July 2014 12: 00
          and we have rewritten how many times: Rurik, not Rurik, Varangian, not Varangian ...
      10. 0
        15 July 2014 16: 49
        Well, isn’t the USA guilty of the fact that we have such a government and others like them?
        1. 0
          15 July 2014 22: 20
          Well, if you look at the share of US guilt in such a government as we have, and not small, look carefully at the election mechanism, only very carefully, consider many factors ... Do you really think that all our elite found themselves there by the will of the people? Have you chosen Chubais? And Kudrina? And Serdyukov? No, in all cases? So what ? These people have been steering the country for a long time, and even now they are stepping away, and so who put them then? You are not and I am not .. but partners from the USA or from another small country in the BV are very likely ..
          1. 0
            18 July 2014 12: 48
            It was long ago - right now they are pushed in - and why they don’t deal with them, and also first of all with Gorbachev, of course the question is big for the authorities - but apparently there are fairly objective reasons that we don’t know about.
        2. 0
          18 July 2014 12: 46
          and what the government did not please you with - maybe you know a government consisting of whom it would be better to deal with the situation, (crossed out) darling ?!
      11. +19
        15 July 2014 17: 41
        Quote: BYV
        point 11 is the true truth, to which he himself has witnessed more than once.

        1)
        I will not say for now. But History does not confirm paragraph 11. In the Crimean War. 19th century. More than 80% of the personnel in the defense of Sevastopol were those who were recorded as Ukrainians in 1923. In the Patriotic War, the 2nd Guards Division was formed in Ukraine. 70% l \ s were "Ukrainians". For special stamina in the defense of Smolensk .. in the fall of 41, she received the name - Guards. Etc. etc.
        -------------
        2) Of the personally familiar colleagues .. I did not notice this. But for a couple of people - rather the opposite.
        -------------
        3) Adventurers and bandits came to the Chechen .. from Ukraine .. Raduevets judges them.
        ----------------
        But I’m writing not for argument.
        I am writing because 100 of millions of Great Russians is too little to oppose the rest of the world again. And I feel ... that I have to confront. Forced.
        Yes. I consider the Russian space from the Carpathians to Kamchatka.
        ------------
        100 years ago there was a single Russian people. For the last 100 years, the artificial process of dividing a single people has been constantly going on.
        And I feel that the untwisted civil war in Ukraine is just a holiday for our enemies.
        Because, with the help of up to * l * ba * nn * th "Ukrainstvo", the inhabitants of Ukraine were cut off from the more than a thousand-year egregor of their people.
        They are made marginal .. It is impossible to fight for "nezalezhna" as for Russia. On a subconscious level. one hundred generations of ancestors against it.
        ------------
        However, the Great Russians ... who gladly ... even with arrogance .. work to advertise the inhabitants of Ukraine .. by garbage, work for our enemies.
        With Belarus .. so far .. things are much better. This is because in the word Belarus, the root remained - "Rus". But for now (((
        If things go on and on ... and it will be the same with Belarus.
        --------------
        But we are told - "The divided people will not stand."
        ------------------
        I feel it. I think. And I always thought that it was so important .. that I would be glad to give my life for the unity of the people. If it were possible.
        ---------
        Now I hope only for God's Miracle. At the mercy of the Lord.
        Because .. according to the logic of events .. I do not see another means.
        1. Black_andy
          +3
          15 July 2014 21: 31
          wonderful comment, gentleman Ammunition - you won’t say more precisely
          1. +2
            15 July 2014 22: 22
            Quote: Black_Andy
            wonderful comment


            Must add.
            Despite everything - I believe that Russia will stand and unite. And will remain until the end of time. According to the covenant.
        2. 0
          16 July 2014 01: 41
          great comment.
          Quote: ammunition
          ammunition
      12. +2
        15 July 2014 20: 23
        But why? We honestly wish America to gag, then we will send them parcels with Christmas gifts, grieve that "these are not, and those are far away", we will drink them to the point of madness and, stroking our bald, skinny little head, say: "Satisfied with the ruins of the Pentagon."
      13. +2
        15 July 2014 21: 35
        Quote: BYV
        We also love to scold the USA, Europe
        -but not all to blame for their troubles. If Serdyukov stole, it would never occur to us to blame the States. And if the Maidan flared up in Ukraine for no reason and harsh Russophobia began, then yes, "we scold the USA" is not that phrase, too soft. And you must admit that there is really something to be angry with the States for. By the way, Germany is no less dirty in Ukraine, even now mocking and malevolent articles are posted in leading German newspapers, so draw your conclusions about Germany. And then even the very respected Ascetic once posted that everyone understands that the future belongs to Asia and the Asians need to be friends, but the Germans are nevertheless closer to the soul of the Ascetic, and this cannot be explained ... But there is no need to explain, the conclusions are simple make far-reaching, if only because of these mocking articles and the behavior of their protege Klitschko, that now all in white mayor in Kiev and trying to drain those who brought him to the mayor's office. This is a very clear indication of how the Germans really relate to the Russians. I wouldn’t shake hands like that, but I would contemptuously throw them bucks, let them give them their technologies, while making the most contemptuous and derogatory face, let them pick up the bucks thrown in their face and enjoy life.
      14. +2
        15 July 2014 22: 29
        And read this paragraph again. He is faithful. We scold the USA. But we do not blame our troubles. Today, an emergency in Moscow, in the subway .... Would anyone have the head to blame the United States? Any other difficulties? From the elements to Serdyukovism?
      15. 0
        17 July 2014 21: 27
        Scolding and blaming, different things. The US is the enemy, he was, he is. This is a confrontation ... What is the point of blaming the enemy for hitting you in the face?
      16. 0
        16 August 2014 20: 39
        Quote: BYV
        I agree, such praise is worth a lot. However, 5 point is controversial. We also love to scold the United States, Europe, etc.
        And yes, paragraph 11 is the true truth, to which he himself has witnessed more than once.

        In paragraph 5 (read carefully), it is not a question of swearing, but of blaming your guilt on another.
    2. +11
      15 July 2014 08: 00
      The article is clearly nationalistic, although he read with interest and plus.
    3. +51
      15 July 2014 08: 09
      Quote: Duke
      Praise from the enemy is more important.

      Yes, there’s no praise, it’s already not been 20 years old for a Chechen, he looks at everything from the side of his past years. A simple analysis of what he himself has seen in life. There is no smell of praise here.
      1. +4
        15 July 2014 08: 40
        Objectively expressed his opinion in comparison
      2. +3
        15 July 2014 11: 15
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: Duke
        Praise from the enemy is more important.

        Yes, there’s no praise, it’s already not been 20 years old for a Chechen, he looks at everything from the side of his past years. A simple analysis of what he himself has seen in life. There is no smell of praise here.

        Experience is a gain! angry
        1. +1
          15 July 2014 17: 59
          Experience and sexual weakness come over the years bully
      3. +13
        15 July 2014 14: 44
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Yes, there’s no praise, it’s already not been 20 years old for a Chechen, he looks at everything from the side of his past years. A simple analysis of what he himself has seen in life. There is no smell of praise here.


        I agree. This is not praise. This is a warrior's respect for a worthy enemy.

        The Russians, however, we got out of puddles of urine and feces, and in tears, but. They do not leave positions. Actually, it always led me into a stupor


        I had to communicate with an Afghan, a Tajik by birth.
        He fought against our troops in the detachments of Ahmad Shah Massoud - "Panjshir lion".
        Sincerely respects the "Shuravi" - Soviet soldiers. He says they were warriors, victory over them or death at their hands are worthy of a man.
        But Americans and others like them, who are now being taken out of Afghanistan, call them cowardly jackals and warriors.
        counts.
    4. +21
      15 July 2014 09: 24
      I would also add a rare form of schizophrenia in most of the nation.
      "How did all the people in the country become idiots at one time? (Maybe not entirely accurate, but the essence is the same. From the movie" Brother 2 ")
      1. +1
        15 July 2014 19: 11
        Didn't Psaki write this for an hour?
    5. +21
      15 July 2014 09: 25
      Or, too, in confirmation of the words of paragraph 1
      1. dimbass
        0
        17 July 2014 18: 45
        Global warming is to blame.
        The trouble with these split systems
    6. Big den
      +13
      15 July 2014 09: 37
      It is rather not praise but a statement of fact, a warrior impartially evaluates the enemy. Chechens are fairly fair and honest people (not like Arabs), and adats (the laws of their ancestors), coupled with traditional Islam, make them very worthy opponents, and their treason is extremely rare.
      1. gfnhbjnrf
        +11
        15 July 2014 14: 32
        my husband served in '91, along with Azeris, Ukrainians, Chechens and so on. Ukrainians, if your pocket is empty, they won’t even turn in your direction. They are where it’s good, where you can have something, if you represent a profit. And to defend myself, I’m not me. But this is just a Chechen and became a friend and support. a man of honor. this is what often happens.
        1. +2
          16 July 2014 07: 02
          I can confirm these words. Chechens even told Caucasians that they were not fellow countrymen, and in any case they opposed anyone, but with the Russians. Service life 1990-1992, Stroybat.
    7. Alexan
      +9
      15 July 2014 09: 41
      It is not a matter of praising the enemy. Even if it is composed by someone, the truth is to the last point. But there is one more point: Ukrainians are not homogeneous. All of the above applies more to ethnic, i.e. to the central part. The east is mentally different, the west is generally not ethnically Ukrainians, although they consider themselves to be refined. Gradually, we begin to understand that our peoples are not brotherly, but cousins.
      1. +3
        15 July 2014 11: 20
        Quote: Alexan
        It is not a matter of praising the enemy. Even if it is composed by someone, the truth is to the last point. But there is one more point: Ukrainians are not homogeneous. All of the above applies more to ethnic, i.e. to the central part. The east is mentally different, the west is generally not ethnically Ukrainians, although they consider themselves to be refined. Gradually, we begin to understand that our peoples are not brotherly, but cousins.

        Or maybe in some kind of tribe, three-tenth. hi
        1. Alexan
          0
          15 July 2014 15: 11
          Much closer, but we Russians are not moving away. We are constantly being told. that "shlyakh", "Jew" is good; "" - oaths!
    8. +6
      15 July 2014 10: 00
      What the hell is praise from this warrior of Allah, who, having fought with our police forces mainly from ambushes and from around the corner, suddenly decided that he was a great warrior and can now casually say that the Russians are worth something. I give up if they cool, as they think about themselves, they would not go to Kazakhstan.
      1. +19
        15 July 2014 12: 40
        I do not quite agree.
        And yet, at the insistence of Shamil Basayev, they first went on the radio to the battalion commander, Lt. Col. Mark Yevtyukhin, who was in the 6th company, with a proposal to let their column pass "in a good way."
        - There are a lot of us here, ten times more than you. Why do you need trouble, commander? Nobody will notice the night, the fog, and we will pay very well, - Idris, then Abu Walid, in turn, were commanders from especially close to Khattab.

        But in response, such a virtuoso mat sounded, that radio talks quickly stopped. And it started ...
        6th company, 90 against 2500 - they resisted!
        Only 14 years have passed.


        Read more: http://www.realisti.ru/main/strong_men/pravda-o-6-rote-pskovskogo-desanta.htm#ix
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    9. +10
      15 July 2014 10: 36
      Quote: Duke
      It's nice when such words about the Russians are clearly not written by a friend.

      but no longer an enemy. IMHO
      1. +3
        15 July 2014 16: 33
        Quote: Lukich
        but no longer an enemy. IMHO

        Really ???
        Turn your back on him then. You can go to Dagestan, walk around the Karabudakhkentsky district.
    10. +2
      15 July 2014 14: 27
      No, this is not the enemy. This is a person who was able to overestimate what he was taught and form his own opinion. This "enemy" can cost ten if it is identified.
    11. +3
      15 July 2014 14: 37
      so go kiss him !!! do you even know the eccentric personally, maybe he has blood in his hands like dirt under Zhytomyr! it’s nice to him, you know how many such statues walk on the Internet from former enemies. Beginners to understand that they were wrong? 100% you will stick a peak between the ribs without hesitation, even with some respect for you as an enemy! Praise from the enemy is more important!))) I’ve ridiculed us, you know how the Iraqi army was praised, it said by force 4 in the world! with their raised humpbacked pride noses gouged like kittens! soon, the right-wingers will begin to write that the Russian soldier is their ideal, that they begin to understand and enlist as soldiers, walk the streets of Saratov. He agrees with the Khattab. This beast must have shot the prisoners!
    12. cat 1970
      +1
      15 July 2014 16: 55
      This is not a friend, this is not a Chechen (If you want, this is not a mountaineer), these are not their words. Words are spoken, words completely filled with snake venom, but not Chechen, they are not involved in this. poison PEN._Dossky. This is their pig-tribe, forged by all, Ossetians, Russians, Chechens and other peoples. They have no conscience. Even in the second war there was a certain code (I don’t know the rules, I can’t explain it clearly, I cut the throats, but there was still something, I don’t know how to explain it, maybe we are ALL ... RUSSIANs anyway). And this one, he did not even subscribe to the article, he is PEN-dos, he pushes his foreheads, he not only hates us. he wants to erase us from the FACE OF THE EARTH. Whoever sows the wind in the world, he will reap the STORM (where there may not be a place for Pen.DoS).
      1. +2
        15 July 2014 23: 01
        it immediately occurred to me that something was wrong with the article, now it dawned on me that I talked a lot with the Chechens - they don’t say that and they don’t think as described in the article
    13. 0
      15 July 2014 17: 58
      I will support. Frederick 2 said that it’s not enough to kill a Russian, he must also be dropped.
      1. 0
        16 July 2014 01: 47
        Quote: Pinguin
        I will support. Frederick 2 said that it’s not enough to kill a Russian;

        .. dead tumble down ...
        The phrase of the king, after writing to his brother about the consequences of the Battle of Kunersdorf ..
    14. +1
      15 July 2014 18: 21
      This is not my phrase, but I liked it: only after the events in the Southeast, only after all these terrible murders, did the Russians finally believe that the Ukrainians did not like them.
    15. +10
      15 July 2014 18: 36
      Don’t worry, we have Russians and Chechens and Ossetians and Afghans, we are all one family here
    16. +5
      15 July 2014 19: 01
      Quote: Duke
      It is nice when such words about the Russians are clearly not written by a friend. Praise from the enemy is more important.

      In the east, there is a saying "It is better to have a worthy enemy coming at you with an open face than a vile friend pouring sherbet into your ears but melting a knife behind your back!" Here the situation is the same !! Like the fraternal Slavic people, but constantly looking for the extreme in their failures and troubles! And who does not want to understand himself by accepting repentance !! I served at the end of the USSR with the Ukrainians and I remember how even during the union they saw in other Slavs the source of their misfortunes and lifelong failures! We dreamed of a chimeric incomprehensible manna from heaven in the case of their identity from Russia! I still correspond with some of my campaigners, but now they again blame someone that everything is so bad for them, but at the same time they deny the obvious things that put them in a corner and testify to their limitations and shortsightedness! They confess their venality and greed, but they elevate it to a national feature !! But at the same time they try to teach me life as a Russian Kazakh !!!!!!! I'm shocked! belay How can you understand the people turning away from their hero Bohdan Khmelnytsky and taking into the holy bloodsuckers and sellers of a nation such as Bender and Mazepa! ???
      1. rodevaan
        0
        16 July 2014 17: 42
        Quote: rasputin17
        how can you understand the people turning away from their hero Bohdan Khmelnitsky and taking in a holy bloodsuckers and sellers of a nation such as Bender and Mazepa! ???


        “Yes, elementary, Watson,” the Khokhlam whispered. The main monkey from Fashington blamed everything on kale for cookies — that’s it.
    17. -1
      15 July 2014 20: 28
      Chechens are not "not friends" to us. That way you can agree to outright chauvinism, racism and Nazism.
    18. +4
      15 July 2014 22: 28
      Not too similar to a Chechen, too affectionately, like that ...
      Rather, an analysis of a Russophobe, with the signature "Chechen"!
      Of course it’s flattering to read such things about yourself, but ...
      We will be honest with ourselves, we are all different people and probably the best qualities of a person depend on his upbringing, and not on nationality. I want to remind you of the heroes of the Second World War, among which people who consider themselves Ukrainians occupy a prominent place!
      And, if you take the last years, there was too much shit in the education of young people, and not only in Ukraine! It is time for us to reflect on the patriotic education of youth, this is already too serious !!!
      1. +1
        16 July 2014 12: 16
        yes, this article was not written by a Chechen, or even a Caucasian ...
    19. 0
      16 July 2014 07: 04
      What can a Chechen know about Russian and Ukrainian intelligence? Judging a nation by the actions of its elite is at least biased !! Russians and Ukrainians are essentially one people, if it is Ukrainian, and not those Western, descendants of Poles. Those are indeed a mean and cowardly people. But the Chechen despises both Russians and other infidels. It’s in their blood. They only understand power. And now we are all in our cares, fragmented, often cowardly. Seeing the fight, we bypass it, having heard screams in the entrance for help, we will never lean out of the door .... And this is a shameful truth. The peoples of the Caucasus can learn from mutual assistance and respect for parents.
      1. rodevaan
        -1
        16 July 2014 17: 45
        Quote: Fingolfin
        What can a Chechen know about Russian and Ukrainian intelligence? Judging a nation by the actions of its elite is at least biased !! Russians and Ukrainians are essentially one people, if it is Ukrainian, and not those Western, descendants of Poles. Those are indeed a mean and cowardly people. But the Chechen despises both Russians and other infidels. It’s in their blood. They only understand power. And now we are all in our cares, fragmented, often cowardly. Seeing the fight, we bypass it, having heard screams in the entrance for help, we will never lean out of the door .... And this is a shameful truth. The peoples of the Caucasus can learn from mutual assistance and respect for parents.


        - Well, I would not generalize. Over the past year, he personally personally upset 2 times any mountain people who ran into the bus. And nothing, no one jerked off, the other guys connected too. They didn’t get to the assault - they decided peacefully, but the fact itself is obvious. Of course, seeing that they were no longer 7 against one, they behaved quietly. Now it’s not the 90s, when it was so real. The people became more confident and many already got tired of it. True, I note one more fact - Russian brawlers - there will be 2-3 times more.
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    21. sazhka4
      0
      16 July 2014 10: 20
      Cool .. Man became a Citizen.
    22. +3
      16 July 2014 17: 19
      Quote: Duke
      writes clearly not a friend.

      Well, I would not call the Chechens enemies, at that time in the 90s, they had the same division into Maidanut Wahhabism and normal. So you need to be correct in the wording, so as not to incite hatred ..
      Here, by the way, is the opinion of the Afghan on Russians:
    23. rodevaan
      0
      16 July 2014 17: 37
      Quote: Duke
      It is nice when such words about the Russians are clearly not written by a friend. Praise from the enemy is more important.


      - Chechens are also different - there are worthy people among them, there are frank pigs, as in any nation. So I would not distinguish them as something special. Actually, as among Ukrainians.
    24. Anrie
      0
      16 July 2014 19: 39
      With a foe who respects you, you can build a relationship, and perhaps in the future you can become a friend, and with a flattering and deceitful pseudo-friend you can’t become a friend.
    25. pomeshkin.g
      0
      17 July 2014 19: 33
      the Russian soldier was always distinguished by his stubbornness, as Suvorov noted, and not only he
    26. +1
      15 September 2015 00: 47
      "It is better to have a smart enemy than a stupid friend" - popular wisdom.
  2. +13
    15 July 2014 07: 53
    Although the enemy was writing, he hit the very spot! And the opinion of the enemy is sometimes more important than the opinion of the "allies"!
    1. +12
      15 July 2014 08: 37
      Quote: Shadow1
      Although the enemy was writing, he hit the very spot! And the opinion of the enemy is sometimes more important than the opinion of the "allies"!

      Especially about comparing Russia and the United States, and NOT comparing Ukraine and the United States, I myself did not pay attention to this, the impression is that dill are like confused comparing clients' wallets! That is, they do not believe in a great and independent Ukraine, and they choose whom to treat, and this is for me the MOST unpleasant thing about "brothers", if spitting in Russia, they set the goal of glorifying their country, I would understand (forgive no, understand yes!), and so watch their programs, and vidish-mongrels and small!
      1. +5
        15 July 2014 11: 28
        Quote: serega.fedotov
        Quote: Shadow1
        Although the enemy was writing, he hit the very spot! And the opinion of the enemy is sometimes more important than the opinion of the "allies"!

        Especially about comparing Russia and the United States, and NOT comparing Ukraine and the United States, I myself did not pay attention to this, the impression is that dill are like confused comparing clients' wallets! That is, they do not believe in a great and independent Ukraine, and they choose whom to treat, and this is for me the MOST unpleasant thing about "brothers", if spitting in Russia, they set the goal of glorifying their country, I would understand (forgive no, understand yes!), and so watch their programs, and vidish-mongrels and small!

        Those who like to look into someone else's wallet. I will give an example. Last year I called to Kiev, so to speak, "friends" from old memory, served in the GSVG. My question is: "How is health, how is life?" The answer is a question, not about health, not about business, but whether I changed the car. I'm in a stupor. belay
      2. +3
        15 July 2014 18: 17
        Remember how, before joining the Russian Empire, they traveled in circles and more than once to allies with Poland, Turkey, and Russia.
        And finished Catherine the Great, liquidating the Zaporizhzhya Sich decree as follows: "... now more Sѣchi Zaporozhye in her political ugliness, Consequently, Kozakov of this name ... ""
  3. +10
    15 July 2014 07: 54
    Beautifully laid out, everything to the very point.
  4. +10
    15 July 2014 07: 54
    hmm ... tough
  5. pinecone
    0
    15 July 2014 07: 55
    No matter how the Russians disperse the Golden Eagle, they will never chase them at home

    Unclear.
    1. +22
      15 July 2014 07: 57
      Quote: pinecone
      No matter how the Russians disperse the Golden Eagle, they will never chase them at home

      Unclear.


      He meant that they would not take revenge on the families of their opponents. By the way, the Chechens themselves take revenge on everyone. Blood vengeance so that ...
      1. +7
        15 July 2014 08: 27
        [quote = mamont5] [quote = pinecone] [b]

        He meant that they would not take revenge on the families of their opponents. By the way, the Chechens themselves take revenge on everyone. Blood vengeance to her ... [/ quote]
        Well, not really. No one will touch women or children, only men.
        1. -1
          16 July 2014 12: 20
          in the implementation of blood feud to kill an enemy woman - a shame for the avenger! violated, and constantly ...
      2. nvv
        nvv
        +2
        15 July 2014 08: 48
        Quote: mamont5
        Quote: pinecone
        No matter how the Russians disperse the Golden Eagle, they will never chase them at home

        Unclear.


        He meant that they would not take revenge on the families of their opponents. By the way, the Chechens themselves take revenge on everyone. Blood vengeance so that ...

        Blood feud. But this, it seems to me, is worth learning. And apply along with Russian justice.
        1. +1
          15 July 2014 14: 47
          Quote: nvv
          Blood feud. But this, it seems to me, is worth learning. And apply along with Russian justice.

          The principle of Talion (lex talionis) - (The principle of the Talion, defined by the phrase from the Old Testament: “An eye for an eye.” (It sounds like this: “... if there is harm, give back soul for soul, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burning for burning, bruising for bruising ”) is the oldest custom in people's lives, so we don’t need to learn, it’s in our blood at the genetic level (True, according to the Criminal Code, this will be interpreted as action in a state of affect).
          The emergence of the Old Russian state was naturally accompanied by the formation of Old Russian law, historically the first source of which was legal customs - the norms of customs of a pre-class society, sanctioned by the emerging state. Among them one can find blood feud, the principle of talion - "equal for equal". The totality of these norms of the chronicle and other ancient documents are called the "Russian Law".
          1. 0
            16 July 2014 01: 51
            Quote: PSih2097
            Among them one can find blood feud, the principle of talion - "equal for equal"

            Princess Olga - revenge on the Drevlyans ...
      3. 0
        15 July 2014 11: 35
        Quote: mamont5
        Quote: pinecone
        No matter how the Russians disperse the Golden Eagle, they will never chase them at home

        Unclear.


        He meant that they would not take revenge on the families of their opponents. By the way, the Chechens themselves take revenge on everyone. Blood vengeance so that ...

        Revenge men, but not women and children. By the way, the Albanians, too, have not gone far, Corsicans in the same line.
        1. 0
          15 July 2014 18: 20
          So Albanians are Muslims.
      4. 0
        16 July 2014 17: 19
        mamont5
        ... the Chechens themselves take revenge on everyone. Blood vengeance so that ...

        Blood vengeance (also vendetta, from Italian vendetta - revenge) is an ancient principle characteristic of the tribal system, according to which the person who committed the murder, or any member of his family (clan, tribe, clan, grouping) must be death in retaliation.

        Blood revenge should not be confused with persecution and threats against the wives and children of the "Berkutites" who were not able to defend themselves, who conscientiously stood for the protection of law and order during the events on the Maidan.
    2. +16
      15 July 2014 07: 58
      Quote: pinecone
      Unclear.
      Yes, the fact that our family of cops will not be prosecuted for the fact that their dad complied with the order to disperse the demonstrators.
    3. DPZ
      +15
      15 July 2014 08: 01
      what is incomprehensible? we will not go home in the sense of a family, we will not be persecuted. the man correctly writes "sports behavior - such a moral!"
    4. +9
      15 July 2014 08: 02
      then Kakly waited for Berkutovites and killed near their houses, threatened their families.
    5. Vek
      0
      15 July 2014 08: 09
      If the police will give you a lyule at the demonstration, will you pursue at home them and the families of these policemen? Now it is clear?
    6. +2
      15 July 2014 11: 31
      Quote: pinecone
      No matter how the Russians disperse the Golden Eagle, they will never chase them at home

      Unclear.

      And so it is clear. A Russian or a Russian, as you wish, would not vent evil on families. And they are very close. The lessons of Bandera were not in vain. am
  6. +10
    15 July 2014 07: 55
    It is pleasant to hear such a description of the Russian people from the lips of a "former" enemy.
  7. kay4yk
    +4
    15 July 2014 07: 55
    there are neither good nations nor bad ones. each for himself chooses what to be
    1. +2
      15 July 2014 08: 06
      And so it is. The mentality laid by the parents is formed by the personality itself.
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    2. +1
      15 July 2014 08: 41
      I do not agree. I always said: "Ukrainians-rats."
  8. gsg955
    +10
    15 July 2014 07: 56
    Ukrainians know everything about themselves, but are silent. A humble nation ....
  9. +2
    15 July 2014 07: 59
    all right, but I’m sorry for them all the same, not all of them are so scum ...
    1. +10
      15 July 2014 09: 58
      I would have agreed with you before, but now NO, I confirm EVERYTHING! Everyone who identifies himself as velikoukr, believe me, ALL the polls are scum! I say this because, 1) I live 50 km from the border with dill; 2) there are relatives and "friends" among the kaklov!
    2. 0
      15 July 2014 14: 27
      quote = Evgesh91] everything is true, but still they feel sorry for them, not all of them are scum so ... [/ quote]
      Especially women. Insanely pleasant to the touch. [
      1. 0
        16 July 2014 12: 25
        by the way ... strange: among nations and nations with a similar mentality and history - women are beautiful - Poles; Is this a genetic survival mechanism?
  10. +1
    15 July 2014 07: 59
    Golden words, yes we are ...
  11. +3
    15 July 2014 07: 59
    In fact, almost everything or almost everything is true, but the text is not written in Chechen!
    1. +8
      15 July 2014 08: 08
      How did you guess what was written by a Chechen? By the lack of emphasis in the text?
    2. 0
      15 July 2014 08: 09
      it doesn't look like it was written by a Chechen. And in particular, this "Russians" instead of "Russians" looks strange.
      The Russians are still fundamentalists. They, even to me a Chechen, are easier to understand, and easier to agree with them
      apparently, not only Chechens, but also other peoples of the Caucasus, he also does not consider Russians, otherwise he would never generalize, calling so remotely and defining both Russians and Ingush, Circassians, Kumyks ... in the "Russian", because a Chechen is so would not say, and would not generalize Caucasians with Russians
      1. +3
        15 July 2014 08: 28
        Quote: Gleb
        apparently not only the Chechens, but the rest of the Caucasus, he also does not consider Russians

        The article is revised. It originally dealt with a comparison of Russians and Ukrainians. And in this version, the Russians were replaced by Russians.
        1. 0
          15 July 2014 16: 40
          Quote: Tor Hummer
          And in this version, the Russians were replaced by Russians.

          Or RUSAKI, it was also called very often. But only now it is clear why in the Caucasus there is an offensive nickname or insult - a crest.
    3. 0
      15 July 2014 08: 10
      I agree, but not in everything. Such an adequate Chechen veteran who survived after both wars could write this, and here the text is clearly positioned as from a young one.
    4. +1
      15 July 2014 08: 12
      Quote: loroleg74
      but the text is not written in Chechen!

      The text is written by Jews, their ears in the media stick out everywhere. The helpers of Kolomoisky or Poroshenko wrote a text so that the Slavic peoples with almost the same culture would slander each other.
      1. -1
        15 July 2014 08: 21
        I agree completely, the text is not a Chechen - an action movie was written and laid out on shelves.
        The analyst is also with a sawed-off and cunning, but he himself rather knocks out of the "puddle of urine and feces".
    5. +2
      15 July 2014 11: 41
      Quote: loroleg74
      In fact, almost everything or almost everything is true, but the text is not written in Chechen!

      Chechens are collier than anyone in conversation. I don’t praise, but compared with other peoples of the North Caucasus, the Ingush too.
  12. +1
    15 July 2014 08: 04
    The opinion of the former adversary is very valuable.
  13. pinecone
    0
    15 July 2014 08: 05
    Quote: DPZ
    what is incomprehensible? we will not go home in the sense of a family, we will not be persecuted. the man correctly writes "sports behavior - such a moral!"


    It is incomprehensible because Berkut did not disperse the Russians.
  14. +14
    15 July 2014 08: 05
    Article plus. As the Ukrainian will say, much written in the article is inherent in the Ukrainian, and that’s all.
    I do not agree with - "that subconsciously there is no Ukraine for him ...."

    Those who were born and received early education in the Ukrainian SSR know the history of the Ukrainian SSR, love the Ukrainian SSR and all the Ukrainian SSR will remain in their memory.
    1. +15
      15 July 2014 08: 22
      Quote: O_RUS
      Those who were born and received early education in the Ukrainian SSR know the history of the Ukrainian SSR, love the Ukrainian SSR and all the Ukrainian SSR will remain in their memory.


      Here he has a substitution of concepts, conscious or not, is not the essence. There is a Ukrainian-Little Russian as a representative of the people as a primary natural and historically formed formation, an integral part of the Russian world, and there is a "ragul" with a shtetl psychology, a product of a "Ukrainian nation" artificially created and imposed from the outside without historical and civilizational roots, brought up on ideas UKRAINE alien to their own people. This is a typical Ivan, who does not remember his kinship, who is characterized by this unfinished Nokhchi. He is ready to lie under anyone and betray anyone because there are REALLY no values ​​of his soul, except for slogans-mantras and heroes of the same traitors to Mazepa-Petlyura- Bandera.
      1. +4
        15 July 2014 08: 38
        Quote: Ascetic
        "ragul" with a shtetl psychology, a product of a "Ukrainian nation" artificially created and imposed from the outside without historical and civilizational roots, brought up on the ideas of UKRAINE alien to its own people.

        I would say that the type described in the article is more characteristic of the western and part of central Ukraine.
        1. +2
          15 July 2014 11: 06
          And those Ukrainians from the Southeast who are now sitting at home or have been shed in Russia?
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      2. +3
        15 July 2014 11: 11
        Quote: Ascetic
        Here he has a substitution of concepts, conscious or not, is not the essence. There is a Ukrainian-Little Russian as a representative of the people as a primary natural and historically formed formation, an integral part of the Russian world, and there is a "ragul" with a shtetl psychology, a product of a "Ukrainian nation" artificially created and imposed from the outside without historical and civilizational roots, brought up on ideas UKRAINE alien to their own people. This is a typical Ivan, who does not remember his kinship, who is characterized by this unfinished Nokhchi. He is ready to lie under anyone and betray anyone because there are REALLY no values ​​of his soul, except for slogans-mantras and heroes of the same traitors to Mazepa-Petlyura- Bandera.


        I read, read komenty ... Finally I saw a sound assessment. I subscribe to every word. hi
      3. +2
        15 July 2014 14: 30
        and it turns out that in the realities of today, either you are a widespread Ukrainian, a crest-Bender, or you are a Russian from Novorossiya. And it won't be otherwise. We have become enemies not in the "real" of the Internet, kitchen graters, smoke breaks in the soul. In real life, people in the SE are divided into Ukrainians and Russians. Life practice. And what about love for the Ukrainian SSR - wasn't it included the territory of Novorossia after the fall of the Russian Empire? I do not see much sense in saving the term "Ukrainian" in the context of "also Russian, but from Ukraine." The term "Russian" means more today than it did ten years ago. Ukrainian national consciousness leaves no place for the Russian principle in its "new world". This means that there are no more special Ukrainians. There are only widespread Ukrainians, svidomo in their own special blood. And there are Russian people who lived in the territories that were part of the Ussr, and in Ukraine after the collapse of the USSR. That is, on the territory of Novorossiya. Now there is a separation of Ukrainians and Russians. Not a Russian idea, but it happens objectively.
    2. +5
      15 July 2014 08: 23
      Quote: O_RUS
      .As the Ukrainian will say - much written in the article is inherent in the Ukrainian, and that’s all.

      From Ukraine. I will add that the last 9 (!) Months of active maidaning all this is intensively cultivated, strongly encouraged and supported.
      What is noticeable is that the consciousness, which has practically stood still for this time, begins to wake up and come into conflict with the subconscious, which does not belong to the Svidomo Ukrainians.
  15. +19
    15 July 2014 08: 06
    I absolutely agree with many points. About the Bandera people: an acquaintance told me that one of these days they went to a gas station in the evening for a supplement, then a "deer" with zhovtoblakite numbers drove up, got out of the car and shared his opinion about our country - "It's clean here, good, calm, MAIDAN IS NOT AT YOU ". He was saved only by the fact that we still had to run to his car. And such g. Nids represent the "brotherly" people who have plunged head over heels into such kaku thanks to themselves, that for me personally such a nation as "Ukrainian" no longer exists.
    There is every rabble from the south, but not a fraternal Ukrainian. And I am fully in tune with Shevchenko’s poem about Ukrainians, Jews and Lyah. As you can see, after so much time nothing has changed.
    1. 0
      16 July 2014 12: 30
      I risk being known as a Ukrainophobe and a nationalist, but plus and, I delve into life, and ... I don’t find what to object! Alas...
  16. +4
    15 July 2014 08: 07
    I liked this comparison ... If everything is as it is written, ours will win ... But to compare the mentality, I would still recommend listening to the banter songs of Orest Lyuty, it is such jazz for Bandera people, all the songs are based on the fact that .o.s.kal interferes with them everywhere, even when sleeping ... You even wonder how people sign their own insolvency and sing about it with a fierce look ...
  17. +4
    15 July 2014 08: 08
    Oh my God! I didn’t expect it!
    Eleven points and nothing to add! The view from the side is priceless!
    If only you wouldn’t be proud!
  18. +3
    15 July 2014 08: 08
    I do not support criticism of the Ukrainians, and the compliments to the Russians are pleasant, but the main feature of the Russian person is modesty.
    The trouble for Ukraine, as Rostislav Ishchenko writes, is neither in the oligarchs, nor in the fascists, but in inadequate leaders who have brought the country "to the handle" in 20 years.
    1. nvv
      nvv
      +1
      15 July 2014 09: 08
      There is no such nationality-Ukrainians. There are Russians fooled by propaganda.
    2. 0
      15 July 2014 15: 54
      Delivered to the handle consciously. And obviously according to the same plan and from the same orders.
  19. +7
    15 July 2014 08: 08
    Yesterday I read this article on the censor ...
    Oddly enough, very few comments, apparently ukrozombi her cover ...
    Or do they agree with the article! It was very strange that without the traditional
    everything went away on the srach censor ...
    But the article about children's benefits was very actively discussed ...
    The conclusion made from the analysis of the censor yesterday:
    Selling ukrov they do not care, they agree ...
    There is no money, benefits are not paid, the power is bad ...
    Glory to Ukraine, long live Poroshenko! - Power is good ...
    The death of cotton wool and Colorado Putin is bad ...
    Freedom to Yuri Detochkin (Savchenko-bullet) ...
    Something like this...
  20. +2
    15 July 2014 08: 10
    and Ukrainians do not like to wash! they got dirty in short ... like in any village in our country - a private house and a bathhouse - you won’t see this! do not build baths
    1. +1
      15 July 2014 11: 15
      not p..di ...
      1. -1
        15 July 2014 11: 20
        can you prove the opposite?
        1. -1
          15 July 2014 12: 00
          Google to help
        2. 0
          15 July 2014 18: 08
          I won’t lie. I didn’t see it myself, but my grandfather and father-in-law told me that Ukrainians for washing wash the tub with water and take turns rinsing the whole family in this tub. They had no saunas.
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    3. +1
      15 July 2014 14: 36
      Quote: Russian Uzbek
      and Ukrainians do not like to wash! they got dirty in short ... like in any village in our country - a private house and a bathhouse - you won’t see this! do not build baths

      In forest Russia - yes, a bath is a must. And further south, in the steppe zone and in the ovens, they washed themselves, where it is difficult to build a bathhouse.
      1. +2
        16 July 2014 12: 33
        Yes, you go! ... in the south, where there is no fuel, the baths are drowned even with dung, smelly - but you need to wash yourself ...
    4. +3
      15 July 2014 16: 39
      In Soviet times, there were really few saunas, except in summer cottages. My grandfather in the village, the bathroom had a separate, normal cast-iron bath, next to the boiler was a huge boiler built into the stove for boiling water and making moonshine))))
    5. +1
      16 July 2014 01: 57
      Quote: Russian Uzbek
      and Ukrainians do not like to wash! they got dirty in short ... like in any village in our country - a private house and a bathhouse - you won’t see this! do not build baths

      enchanting nonsense with complete gasification and a hot climate ... Everyone has a shower and bath ..
      It is trite to rinse from the heat several times a day ... there is heat!
      In general, to put it mildly, you’re wrong, but if it’s rude then
      Quote: Goodmen
      not p..di ...
      1. +2
        17 July 2014 18: 48
        Quote: Cristall
        enchanting nonsense with complete gasification and a hot climate ... Everyone has a shower and bath ..

        Especially when you consider that complete gasification and shower with bath were in Ukraine and in the Middle Ages. laughing
        In my small homeland, gas is in every village, and a long time ago. But nobody forgets about the bath, everyone has it. Many have a gas bath. Is it possible to replace it with some kind of shower?
  21. +3
    15 July 2014 08: 10
    Chechens are also good fighters, skilled, but about dill to the point!
  22. +1
    15 July 2014 08: 13
    Fairly accurate and respectful characterization.
  23. StepanovTDSM
    0
    15 July 2014 08: 14
    He did not discover America, and so long ago it is clear that Ukrainians are not warriors, but are so vile in their bulk.
  24. +7
    15 July 2014 08: 15
    add one more. Russians do not cry or beg forgiveness at gunpoint. die if there is no way out, Proudly.
    1. +1
      15 July 2014 15: 57
      Come on. There are all sorts of Russians. Let's say a larger percentage dies proudly. Also, rowing all up a comb is not necessary. And there are Ukrainians who do not fit the assessment of the Chechen. And the Chechens are similar to the Ukrainians described by him.
  25. ed65b
    +9
    15 July 2014 08: 20
    Article plus. At one point, during the Second World War both Ukrainians and Russians and Chechens sat in trenches and did not leave their positions, in feces, urine, blood. And they were all "silent stubborn" How everything has changed in the post-war period. only two stubborn remained.
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    2. 0
      15 July 2014 14: 45
      Quote: ed65b
      Article plus. At one point, during the Second World War both Ukrainians and Russians and Chechens sat in trenches and did not leave their positions, in feces, urine, blood. And they were all "silent stubborn" How everything has changed in the post-war period. only two stubborn remained.

      Many nations have had this in their history. Both Germans, Finns, and French with Italians could hold the front. Even hated by us impudent Saxons. Gradually, everything goes bad. The Italians broke down on the colonization of Ethiopia, the French turned sour in World War I. The British, apparently, turned sour under a load of Euro-values ​​(an example of the crew of a boat that was captured by the Iranians (?) Not so long ago).
  26. +4
    15 July 2014 08: 21
    As everyone became proud, the Chechen praised, and even the enemy who fought against us. Not an article, but a wedge between Ukrainians and Russians, a wedge driven by our enemy.
    1. +7
      15 July 2014 08: 49
      Quote: Targitai
      As everyone became proud, the Chechen praised, and even the enemy who fought against us. Not an article, but a wedge between Ukrainians and Russians, a wedge driven by our enemy.

      It looks like it.
      They fought with the Chechens more than once, with the Ukrainians, too, but on the same side.
      Chechens will hit in the back as soon as we give up the slack, Ukrainians will simply turn away and leave.
      Forgetting who Chechens are for us and who are Little Russians is what it means to be Ivanes who don’t remember kinship.
      1. ed65b
        +2
        15 July 2014 13: 13
        Volodya, may the Ukrainian turn away and leave? He will sell you, betray, spit in your soul, and even your wife and child will be killed if she is afraid to mate with you. No need to idyllize them. Czech correctly noted everything.
        1. +2
          15 July 2014 16: 55
          Here you break like a dog, prove that you are right? Only I and many of my friends do not perceive Bandera's residents of western Ukraine, just for what the "Chechen" wrote.
        2. 0
          15 July 2014 17: 53
          I agree, only this is about the western well and the central dill (although not everything is central). And SE is not dill, this is New Russia. And why there are already enough dill in Novorossia, so 23 years haven’t passed so easily, and entih have come to large cities ...
        3. 0
          15 July 2014 17: 53
          I agree, only this is about the western well and the central dill (although not everything is central). And SE is not dill, this is New Russia. And why there are already enough dill in Novorossia, so 23 years haven’t passed so easily, and entih have come to large cities ...
        4. -2
          16 July 2014 02: 03
          Quote: ed65b
          He will sell you, betray, spit in your soul, and even your wife and child will be killed if she is afraid to mate with you. Do not idyllize them

          among zapadentsev (a small part) contempt for hatred (hidden or open) is possible
          as in any country in the world there is a group that hates Russians just because they are Russians.
          But the loud statement about the total betrayal, the knife and the child too .. does it generally refer to Ukrainians or Islamists?
          Some kind of tracing paper ... atrocious Ukrainian with a knife cutting Russian! Even Bandera slaughtered the Poles (and Ukrainians) in this way and aroused the hatred of the Poles and other Ukrainians.
          But so that Ukrainians cut Russian knives ...
          Although you still know that you’ll pour out such comments --- there will be a public response, heating up public opinion, conflicts of provocation - there you see the words will already be turned into a material entity ... the thought will become material ..
      2. zvbyf
        -1
        16 July 2014 11: 52
        My grandfather, he served in the SA for 35 years, says that they never loved Ukrainians in the Army, neither soldiers nor officers. I ask, why is this attitude towards them ?. The answer is the Ukrainians, even with ... they can’t stand, and still have not learned. All without comment. PS. But! it's about Ukrainians, not Ukrainians.
  27. +3
    15 July 2014 08: 22
    Look for an interview with a former field commander from Afghanistan who respectfully told the Russian soldiers he fought with. Comparing them with the NATO contingent, he said that the Russian is a warrior and the American is a vile coward who does not know how and is afraid to fight.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2O0ivFSZIU&feature=player_detailpage
    and more about "shuravi"
    http://izvestia.ru/news/322090
  28. DMB-88
    +4
    15 July 2014 08: 23
    All of the aforementioned thousands of times the Oplchenians confirmed their stamina and courage !!!
    Eternal memory to the fallen !!!
  29. -1
    15 July 2014 08: 23
    Quote: loroleg74
    In fact, almost everything or almost everything is true, but the text is not written in Chechen!

    If you are right then it is a pity.
  30. +5
    15 July 2014 08: 26
    I do not know who wrote this ode, but it is reproduced correctly.
  31. +1
    15 July 2014 08: 30
    Such words from an enemy are worth a lot, but don’t have to dash with pride, such estimates must be constantly, unfortunately, proved when the enemy forgets about the Russians.
  32. +2
    15 July 2014 08: 38
    Do you think that the text is written in too good Russian. For a resident of Chechnya, let the native Chechens forgive me, he is too written in Russian. For the peoples of the Caucasus, the construction of proposals is different.
    1. HAM
      +2
      15 July 2014 11: 12
      You know, our cinema always "rewards" people from the Caucasus with a nasty accent, BUT, in life both Adygs and Chechens, and many other peoples perfectly speak and think in Russian, without an accent, I'm not saying that all, but very many, here our local Circassians all go to Russian schools. It's just that parents understand that without a good knowledge of the language there is no career, no future for children. So I'm not surprised.
      1. 0
        16 July 2014 12: 40
        Dagestanis are very! they want to serve in the Russian army, despite all the negativity that has been poured about it lately. This is a step towards a future career ...
  33. komrad.klim
    +2
    15 July 2014 08: 38
    12) "Ukrainian (zapadenets)" - this is a shameful liquid Catholic nickname for a Russian person
  34. +1
    15 July 2014 08: 40
    Do not take the meannesses of ukrov, masters of this. And also: where did the crest go. - folk wisdom.
  35. Armin
    0
    15 July 2014 08: 43
    Quote: pinecone
    No matter how the Russians disperse the Golden Eagle, they will never chase them at home

    Still, for this you can grab a long time. Otherwise, there was a place to be harassed and threatened by law enforcement officers in Russia. This usually happens during the collapse of the country.
  36. +1
    15 July 2014 08: 44
    this "Chechen2" is apparently a subtle psychologist with a military bias, but something tells me rather his collective image, the author has a completely sound analysis, but the psychological portrait of the Russian soldier is quite accurate without embellishment and pathos ... zer gut hi
  37. 0
    15 July 2014 08: 46
    Somehow 10 years ago, in the heat of a discussion with one, I would say half-Bendera, I told him "the main state principle of shob uyova bulo yam will lead Ukraine to a dead end."
  38. 0
    15 July 2014 08: 46
    It’s not a matter of what nationality you are, but of what you are fighting for. For a bright idea and truth or for a dirty deed. There are Russians and Ukrainians on both sides. And people of other nationalities.
    PS Although such an opinion of the enemy about our people is pleasant, I do not agree with him. But he has the right to think so.
  39. 0
    15 July 2014 08: 47
    Well, that’s it, I fell into charm.
  40. +4
    15 July 2014 08: 50
    Hello everyone! I want to express my opinion on this article, which is a definite plus of course.
    1. Such words of a Chechen, in relation to the entire Russian ethnic group, do him honor. The honor of a worthy, albeit enemy. The enemy must be respected, this is an axiom.
    2. I was struck by the degradation of citizens who are independent, because we are the children of one people, one country. The behavioral model of a Ukrainian is most reminiscent of the European trash people of Poland. Both ours and yours, we are the best, Russians are to blame for everything, etc. etc.
    Conclusion: The collapse of Ukraine took place. But ... he is not final. Unfortunately, the next part of this performance will be the dragging away of the remaining lands into zones of influence, Polish, Romanian, American ... because this people has no right to statehood. Sorry for the harshness, this is my opinion.
  41. +3
    15 July 2014 09: 00
    Of course, much is noticed in my opinion is true, but I would not be so enthusiastic about this.
    In the fifth point, for example, you can safely replace "Ukrainian" with a Chechen and everything will be correct.
    Chechens aren’t talking about betrayal and opportunism either - as soon as the opportunity arose (weakening power, war), the Chechens ALWAYS started the massacre of Russians with whom they had previously seemed to be friends. Moreover, gangs led, Chechens, as a rule, who had previously been the authorities, cops or party workers.

    In general, for me there are two nationalities - Russian and Non-Russian. UkrAinets is already almost non-Russian, and Little Russia is Russian. the Chechen is NEVER Russian, always NERUSSK, no matter how we are told the opposite.
    1. +1
      15 July 2014 12: 02
      Quote: Normal
      with whom they had lived, it seemed, in friendship.


      That's it...seemingly keyword. The Bolsheviks at one time very competently played on this seemingly when they threw down the slogan about the right of nations to self-determination. The same Ukraine is their "product" as well as all the so-called national self-education of the republic, which in their deep essence, despite the propaganda of internationalism, were based on the denial of Russia as a single state and Russians as a state-forming people. If we remember about the Russian Empire, there was no identification by nationality, even in the army they wrote in the questionnaire as an Orthodox or a non-believer (foreigner), regardless of ethnic origin.
      There was such self-identification - Little Russia. Many people considered themselves Little Russians. What is Little Russia? Little Russia is not Great Russia, but part of the Russian nation. The 1926 census conducted by the Bolsheviks excludes this category. Scribes receive instructions that if a person calls himself a Little Russian, then you need to talk to him and explain to him that there is no such thing. And now he should be recorded by a UKRAINIAN. And division began after Lenin came up with the GREAT SUPPORT Great Chauvinism on the one hand and the UKRAINIANS came up with the other. And after joining in 1939. Uniates, they saddled this idea and ultimately imposed it on the rest of the Little Russians already prepared as Ukrainians to resist supposedly Russian nationalism ...
      1. 0
        16 July 2014 12: 45
        partly - without frenzied division into "those" and "these".
        ethologists know such a trick: if a herd of cows grazing peacefully in a meadow is divided in half, then each half will see and perceive the other as a competitor, an enemy ... they - and Ms! and grazed only nearby yesterday, plucked some grass ...
    2. Geo
      Geo
      +1
      15 July 2014 14: 12
      Eco you famously divided the entire population of the planet into two peoples "Russian and Non-Russian". This is a primitive approach to reality - "all white or black". Even the fascists did not divide the peoples like that, even modern ukrofascists recognize at least three peoples - Ukrainians, Mos-Kali, and other peoples. And what you are talking about is called chauvinism. To understand about nations and peoples on our planet, you need to know a little about the history of formation and education. Many nations, as separate ones, simply did not exist even 100 years ago, I am not even talking about a thousand years. And how intertwined are the roots of many, now different, according to your convictions, peoples. But for this you need to have certain knowledge and analyze history, but it's easier to divide everything into two categories: Russian-non-Russians, black-white, good-bad .. This is the work of the software of the robot machine (1 or 0). And where do the Russians now end and the non-Russian Ukrainians who were Russians 100 years ago begin? No offense.
    3. ingush
      +1
      15 July 2014 20: 06
      Quote: Abnormal
      Chechens ALWAYS started the massacre of Russians, with whom they had previously lived as if in friendship. Moreover, gangs led, Chechens, as a rule, who had previously been the authorities, cops or party workers.

      In general, for me there are two nationalities - Russian and Non-Russian. UkrAinets is already almost non-Russian, and Little Russia is Russian. the Chechen is NEVER Russian, always NERUSSK, no matter how we are told the opposite.

      Lately you have become much less. And this is good for Russia.
      "... Such a vile liar has one way to the moon ..."
      (from the movie "Fulfillment of Desires")
      1. 0
        17 July 2014 21: 18
        Quote: Ingush
        Lately you have become much less. And this is good for Russia.
        "... Such a vile liar has one way to the moon ..."
        (from the movie "Fulfillment of Desires")


        I'll start with what you started.

        My nickname is a provocation for identifying those who are incapable of answering essentially and turning to the personalities of foolish people. Congratulations - it worked.

        Thank God that there are quite a few like me and this is the guarantee that Russia will always be, and there will never be more like you like us and this is the good of Russia.

        Such an ignoramus like you is not on the moon, but to a school, library, or at worst to sites of a historical orientation. Read the story, study the relationship between Russian and Chechens, then maybe you will understand, though ....
    4. 0
      17 July 2014 07: 29
      /Normal/

      You know .., here you are, and this author is no different; for them are warriors of former terrorists, etc. people, too, have two differences, just as for you (true and false), and don’t confuse terrorists and other Chechens. And I must say that we and the Chechens were lucky that, like you, there are very few among Russians and among Chechens!
      1. 0
        17 July 2014 21: 42
        Quote: prishelec
        You know .., here you are and this author is no different


        Even as different. I am Russian, the author is Chechen. I hope the difference is clear?
        Quote: prishelec
        and do not confuse terrorists and other Chechens

        And I do not confuse, where did you get it? Not all Chechens are terrorists, I will even say more, not all Chechens are bandits, robbers or simply "horsemen". But all Chechens are Chechens and will always be on their side, whoever they are. The centuries-old traditions of the raiding economy will not disappear in a few decades. While they are peaceful, but we are still strong enough. God forbid us to grow weak.

        Quote: prishelec
        And I must say that we and the Chechens were lucky that, like you, there are very few among Russians and among Chechens!

        Well, maybe the Chechens were lucky. And we were lucky that in Russia there were and will be people who recognize themselves as Russians, and not Russians or Tozhero-Russians.
  42. +3
    15 July 2014 09: 02
    We have never had a single adversary in history who would not admire the fortitude of the Russian spirit. Even losing, we always defeated the enemy spiritually and morally. Russian can be killed, but not defeated.
  43. +7
    15 July 2014 09: 12
    Complete nonsense ..... binding any qualities to nationality. This is good for 18 year old youths, to raise their spirits in quarantine and on the course of a young fighter. But seriously serious fighters with a notion of honor are in any nation, just like cowards are traitors and other bastards. There are cowards, and Chechens have no less of them than Russians or Ukrainians. I especially liked all this nationalistic booze in the comments. Do you guys measure with the size of Bandera? Very original. So the West is working successfully -Russian and Ukrainian are already enemies
    1. +3
      15 July 2014 11: 18
      Quote: Jarserge
      Complete nonsense ..... binding any qualities to nationality. This is good for 18 year old youths, to raise their spirits in quarantine and on the course of a young fighter. But seriously serious fighters with a notion of honor are in any nation, just like cowards are traitors and other bastards. There are cowards, and Chechens have no less of them than Russians or Ukrainians. I especially liked all this nationalistic booze in the comments. Do you guys measure with the size of Bandera? Very original. So the West is working successfully -Russian and Ukrainian are already enemies


      The second sane comment. hi
      1. +1
        16 July 2014 02: 08
        Quote: Goodmen
        Do you guys measure with the size of Bandera? Very original. So the West is working successfully -Russian and Ukrainian are already enemies

        guys work the same manuals .. and the people hawala ..
        there is almost the same thing as the "Ukrainians" were fed
        I agree, the second sane.
        Quote: Goodmen
        Goodmen (

        You read a day earlier than me .. succeeded earlier.
    2. kompotnenado
      -1
      15 July 2014 14: 33
      To understand this nonsense or not nonsense, go to the censor.
    3. kompotnenado
      +2
      15 July 2014 14: 34
      And read the comments. Even the relatively nonsense comments strike with their idiocy and meanness.
    4. 0
      15 July 2014 18: 13
      Not sure about enemies, but certainly not friends.
    5. 0
      16 July 2014 12: 52
      Complete nonsense ..... binding any qualities to nationality.
      don't say ...
      the guys went to Germany (he himself was not allowed to travel abroad), as they saw in the city of N there are areas inhabited by emigrants from somewhere in Oceania: dirt, srach, debris, bits and dumps ... harlem, like in a movie! but they live there already 3-4 generation! in Germany!!! Yes, even if they learned to go to the toilet not around the corner and not for themselves! never mind, and Germany, surrounding you literally everywhere (you live in it!) does not help ... genes, however ... mentality, s ...
  44. +2
    15 July 2014 09: 23
    He is a Chechen or not a Chechen, but the author is in many ways right. The most disgusting thing in Khokhlov is its ability to betray. Moreover, the worst thing is that he loves and knows how to betray, does it competently. Perhaps this is in his genes, even from the ancestor of Mazepa.
    1. -1
      16 July 2014 12: 56
      the deceased grandmother said (born in the 19th century): ho.h.o.l. - corrupt! ...
  45. 0
    15 July 2014 09: 36
    Hattaba quoted fought fear not under his command?
  46. +6
    15 July 2014 09: 36
    Some comments are simply a victim of our propaganda. Chechens became friends only because Russia has the right policy, removed the whip and gave the carrot. And it is right. But do not forget about Dagestan and Ingushetia nearby, there is still far to rest.

    Every year I go home to Ukraine. She is like a spoiled child who does not know what she is doing. Children are punished for wrongdoing, so that in the future they would not die, or be crippled. Here comes the punishment. And Ukraine is sorry, and the child is sorry when you punish, but it is necessary. And sorry for the innocent killed. And I want to take revenge.
    1. 0
      16 July 2014 12: 57
      sorry ... thats those unreasonable child something to the wall with carnations of the 100th and pinned ...
  47. +10
    15 July 2014 10: 07
    I want to tell a story from my life. Around the year 1998, I (Russian), my friend (Armenian) and another guy (Chechen) were engaged in the gym in the dormitory. During the training, the Chechen uttered some phrase in Russian incorrectly, to which a friend (Armenian) jokingly corrected him and said "oh, you, you nerus ...". You should have seen the expression on the face of the Chechen and his resentment. In response, he said: "You yourself are not rus." I laughed, pinned both of them about their Russianness, but this moment has remained in my memory to this day. Still, even the Armenians and Chechens, not to mention the other nationalities of our Russia, in the depths of their souls classify themselves as part of the Russian world and in their hearts are proud of it. And after Crimea, I think they are even more proud of it! The Ukrainians (indigenous) at all times called us "yami" and considered us guilty of all their troubles, and without understanding the essence of history. At the same time, it is striking that at the present time, logical thinking seems to have been kicked out of the Ukrainian people, direct mass paranoia with schizophrenia has come!
    1. Geo
      Geo
      +4
      15 July 2014 14: 32
      I support. The peoples of Russia (USSR, Russian Empire) do not separate themselves from ethnic Russian people (in their majority, of course. But there are different personalities). They are just as offended when the people of one country are divided into a "titular" nation, as it is now in Ukraine, and into "non-Russians". All russophobia is taken at their own expense, Russia is considered the homeland, and they do not like when someone offends her. People speak and think in Russian. If we start here "practicing" in Russian nationalism, then we will have much worse than in the Square.
      A case in point: in the Donbass, South Ossetians are fighting on the side of New Russia, a republic that is not even part of the Russian Federation.
      1. ingush
        +3
        15 July 2014 20: 10
        Chechens and Ingush and Dagestanians are fighting there (and there are dead).
        This is by the way.
    2. 0
      16 July 2014 12: 59
      a land of unknown fathers with missile defense towers ... an inhabited island ...
  48. +4
    15 July 2014 10: 12
    Ukrainians are not, they are trying to offend for the most lively, which emphasizes their petty, innate meanness. In Russia, the last thing is zapadlo.


    Everything that happens in Ukraine is striking precisely with its meanness. And that is the key word.
  49. +1
    15 July 2014 10: 16
    The author tries to explain the complex relationships between Russians, Ukrainians, Chechens ... I would like such, if I may say so, the authors themselves figured out the essence of the problems they raise. Why did I come to this conclusion? Because the person who uses the remakes "Russians, Russians" does not fully understand who the Russians are and what is the difference between this word and the definition of ethnicity: "Rus, Rusyns", etc. Rus in Russia, Rus in Novorosiya, Chechens and people of other nationalities living in Russia are all Russians. And the introduction of the concept "Russians" into the language has one goal - ethnic strife, which is achieved, among other things, through the substitution of concepts.
    1. 0
      15 July 2014 15: 30
      The author made it clear that he did not consider himself a Russian.
      1. 0
        15 July 2014 16: 02
        The author, touching upon such delicate and complex issues, must take a responsible approach to the choice of definitions. "Russian, Russians" is the basis of the theme he develops. And if the first step on the way to the goal is taken in the wrong direction, the further path does not lead to the desired one. We were deprived of our roots by the most effective methods - destruction of Ezyk, deprivation of the true Faith. But even such seemingly insignificant little things, like replacing the word "Russian" with "Russian", ultimately lead to the loss of roots.
        1. 0
          15 July 2014 17: 38
          COUPLE! BE FAVORABLE, WRITE LIKELY! I am personally ashamed of you (you)! trying to learn - no questions! But!! write correctly!
      2. 0
        15 July 2014 17: 39
        that's how to say it! if he writes us unpleasant facts ... then this does not mean anything!
    2. ingush
      +2
      15 July 2014 20: 20
      I disagree about the Russians.
      In Russia, we identify ourselves by nationality. And outside of Russia, as Russians. This is more accurate, in my opinion, more correct. And it should not be offensive at all, for example, the Russians. In foreign languages ​​there is no word "Russian" and therefore, my compatriots are presented as Russian or Caucasian.
      By the way, my niece (purebred Ingush) in the states made a video presentation about the Ingush (customs, traditions, etc.) and signed it - "Russian Muslim" (Russian Muslim). :)))
    3. sazhka4
      0
      16 July 2014 10: 16
      Quote: ava09
      And the introduction into the language of the concept of "Russians" has one goal - ethnic strife, which is achieved, including through the substitution of concepts.

      And what do the Americans write? American .. And this is a reason to "convey" to the world community. Don't touch us .. And we are all "petitions" and clown "demarches" ..
  50. +1
    15 July 2014 10: 53
    Well, thanks for the kind word.
  51. HAM
    +1
    15 July 2014 10: 55
    Если человек пишет такие строки,то,надо полагать,у него есть веские основания так говорить,а чеченец(хоть 6 лет хоть 60 ти)если друг-то друг,если враг-то враг.
  52. +3
    15 July 2014 11: 09
    Все, что делает украинец, он делает не для себя, а для нанесения вреда россиянам. На себя им, как правило, плевать, потому и живут они плохо.


    Anecdote:

    Ukraine has joined the EU. Two godfathers are sitting, drinking. One asks:

    - Well then?
    — Да фигня этот ЕС: я без работы, жена в Италии полы моет, сын вышел замуж за немца, дочь — проститутка во Франции! А во всем виноваты м...ли! Говорили нам: не вступайте в ЕС, не вступайте в ЕС! Знали же, падлюки, что мы назло вступим
  53. +2
    15 July 2014 11: 15
    Целиком согласен с автором! Поражает одно: хохлы - это любители расправляться с людьми, которые не могут ничем ответить, будь то безоружные киевляне, главврач детской больницы в Ровно или мирные жители Новороссии. В открытый бой их не затянешь - понос начинается! Из-за угла, дальнобойными гаубицами (когда самого достать не могут)-на это мастера! Не даром во время оккупации территории СССР немцами, Украина была в числе лидеров по количеству предателей на душу населения.
    1. 0
      17 July 2014 12: 24
      Не даром во время оккупации территории СССР немцами, Украина была в числе лидеров по количеству предателей на душу населения.

      Не надо забывать о Краснодоне, о Молодой Гвардии.
  54. +2
    15 July 2014 11: 19
    Suddenly.
  55. +4
    15 July 2014 11: 22
    Quote: Alexan
    Всё вышеизложенное больше относится к этническим, т.е. к центральной части. Восток ментально иной, запад - вообще этнически не украинцы,

    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/683/oopu951.jpg
  56. +7
    15 July 2014 11: 25
    Хоть и зверства,и агрессия на уровне не объяснимого инстинкта у многих представителей нохчей и было и есть по отношению к русскому человеку,но что характерно. В лице русского солдата чеченцы видели всегда достойного и сильного противника,во время чеченских компаний.
    Да и история с генералом Ермоловым,ими не упоминается не по причине не уважения,а наоборот внегласного признания храброго и сильного соперника.
    Сей довод взаимной "симпатии" по отношению к хохлам(западной и центральной части окраинцев),однозначно можно сказать достаточно аргументирован.
    Служба в армии,еще в доброе советское время явно показывала сущность "гнилого нутра" хохлов в отличии от кавказцев(именно Северный Кавказ).Даже на учениях,когда есть требование-боевой рассчет,эти "чубатые саломойцы" умудрялись вдруг не оказаться на месте согласно боевого расписания!!!
    Дружба наша с чеченцами,закрепилась через неоднократные раскраски наших и их "фейсов"! Бились порой реально,будто от этого зависит наша свобода.Это было какое то "дикое" желание доказать русскому,что он должен признать силу и вседозволенность чеченцев. За полгода службы второго полугодия у нас было около 5-6 "дружеских" встреч в автопарке. Их было в общем по батальону около 13-15 человек,нас безусловно больше,но сопротивляющихся из нашего числа было не больше их численности,при любых стычках собиралась именно равнозначное количество русских,мы не демонстрировали численное преимущество.
    Так вот при всех такого рода"встречах",хохлы всегда были в стороне от разборок,мало того,они чаще старались закорешиться с чеченцами,чтобы без выступить на сторонне чеченцев!!! Замечу,что с хохлами мы были в учебке,отслужили уже по 6-7 месяцев,а "чехов" прислали после. С чеченцами вопрос решился категорично,русских больше не трогаем,есть,хохлы,казахи,узбеки и т.д.
    За все время наших "терок" с чеченцами,хохлы ни разу не выступили с нами,помню эти тупые и рабские морды и до сих пор узнаю в них нынешних твзвезд самостийной! У нас их было 10 человек из бандеровщины. Великие Мосты,Червоноград,Львов и еще откуда то с тех мист.
    С парнями чеченцами даже во время чеченской компании мы встречались. Все равно к ним есть определенная доля уважения,они не скрывают своей либо принципиальной ненависти,либо искреннюю поддержку.
    с этими же упырями из незалежной было и во время службы с гнилью и продажничеством,и сейчас! Сейчас еще хуже! Проявилось истинное укроповское существо.
    Служил я в Болграде,Одесская область. 47 ДШБ.
    Если прочитает Ильяс Исламов или Мага Нуриев,огромный Вам привет парни и помните НИКТО КРОМЕ НАС!!! СЛАВА ВДВ!!!
    А может прочитают такие кренделя,как Хрунь Игорь,Хома Валера,или Дзядык Мирослав!Интересно,чем они сейчас занимаются? Эти точно скакали,не смотря на свой уже не молодой возраст!
    Одним словом всем мира и добра! А этим укропийцам,что им пожелать? Скорейшего выздоровления,как массово заразились,может и выздоровеют массово?
  57. +2
    15 July 2014 11: 29
    Не надо мерить всех украинцев одним аршином. Западэнцы предатели, у них даже истории нет, всегда холопами были у поляков.
  58. +2
    15 July 2014 12: 07
    У меня сестра хохлушка. Люблю ее, но блин все пункты четко описывают ее нутро :)
    1. +1
      15 July 2014 15: 10
      Сводная чтоль? При другом раскладе и ты хохол...или ты не знал?
  59. 0
    15 July 2014 12: 18
    Навеяло: Хохлы - это "наши" арабы.
  60. 0
    15 July 2014 12: 39
    А что? Если не рассматривать отдельные конкретные лица, то, по-моему, в целом правильный портрет обобщенного Россиянина и ... западного украинца. Хотя, не совсем уверен - есть ли юго-восточные украинцы?
  61. -3
    15 July 2014 13: 23
    Мда,молодцы,заплюсовали статью.Ну конечно,русские(мы)молодцы,а украинцы...оооо,мы свегда говорили,что это порочный народ,а теперь,глядите,и чечен то же пишет .Значит,правы мы .Ура,слава Богу,есть такие ,как мы,но намного хуже нас.Хотя нет,куда Им до НАС!Поглядите-ка,как мы отличаемся от них!Да ещё и в лучшую сторону."Да притаких свиньях и сам как-то становишься..."(мульт."Падал прошлогодний снег",цит.)
    Автор-провокатор,сеет межнациональную рознь,причём умело,играя на гордыни и псевдонациональной гордости.
  62. Svarog75
    0
    15 July 2014 13: 44
    Признание врага дорогого стоит
  63. melnik
    0
    15 July 2014 14: 06
    Вот факт из жизни. В Канаде,на какой то праздник в русской общине,хо.хлы притащили торт с оскорбительной надписью. Другая страна,среди русских далеко не все русские и любят Россию. Наши бы Никогда такого не сделали бы.Шлюх.и они,все правда в статье
    1. 0
      15 July 2014 14: 26
      Моя бабушка была украинка, но более Русского человека я не встречал!
      1. melnik
        +1
        15 July 2014 21: 58
        Поэтому и заминусовал? Ну,флаг тебе в руки,более русский
        1. +3
          15 July 2014 23: 29
          Да! Я Русский,хоть моя бабка и Украинка и Русь триста лет была под татарами, поэтому Я отношусь к тому, что происходит на Украине как к братоубийственной войне, которую развязал определённый круг лиц для достижения своих коростных целей.
          Да, я Русский, но я уважаю людей всех национальностей, которые живут основываясь на принципах добра, любви, сострадания, чести, долга и т.д. и не приемлю всех, кто свои корыстные интересы ставит выше всех тех качеств, которые были перечислены ранее, даже если у него в пачпорте, в графе национальность, стоит обозначение русский. Быть Русским и числиться им - совсем разные вещи, чеченец, абхазец, грузин могут быть Русскими.

          А ты тут очки зарабатываешь?

          Модераторы, а можно все мои плюсы отдать этому господину melnik.

          Я высказываю свое мнение и доказываю свою точку зрения, а очки можно зарабатывать в другом месте.

          И не греби всех под одну гребёнку, не суди по себе.
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      2. rodevaan
        0
        16 July 2014 17: 53
        Quote: Sergei75
        Моя бабушка была украинка, но более Русского человека я не встречал!


        - Вы знаете, я встречал даже поляков - более русских чем сами русские. Так что суть не в том, чечен, поляк, хохол или русский по крови, - главное что у человека в душе. Я столько раз в жизни сильно ошибался со стереотипами - не перечесть! Что теперь не смотрю на мир через черно-белые очки. Везде, в любом народе хватает откровенных смрадных гадов-отморозков и очень достойных честных людей. Как среди чеченов, как среди поляков, украинцев и русских.
  64. +4
    15 July 2014 14: 18
    Тщеславие - один из семи православных смертных грехов.

    Как ловко, используя лесть, автор смог переманить на свою сторону читателей, вот вчера мы были с украинцами братья на век, а уже сейчас мы по разные стороны баррикад и с трепетом слушаем оценку человека, искренность которого под большим сомнением.

    Fear Danians bringing gifts!

    Хвалу от врага мы почитаем больше чем родство с непутёвым братом.
    Очнитесь, таким способом Вас изменят и черное станет белым.

    Divide and rule!

    Цель врага - сеять распри среди нас, наши братья на Украине поддались этим соблазнам, так если и мы сейчас пойдем этим-же путём, то нам не будет пути назад и нас смогут победить поодиночке, вспомните притчу про прутик и веник в связке.
    1. 0
      16 July 2014 13: 17
      исходить-то надо из реалий...сосед: неонацистское государство - враг! чётко декларирующий свою враждебность! с гитлером тоже дипломатические отношения имели...дружественные визиты там всякие...руки пожимали...тоже был - сосед!
    2. rodevaan
      0
      16 July 2014 18: 05
      Quote: Sergei75
      Тщеславие - один из семи православных смертных грехов.

      Как ловко, используя лесть, автор смог переманить на свою сторону читателей, вот вчера мы были с украинцами братья на век, а уже сейчас мы по разные стороны баррикад и с трепетом слушаем оценку человека, искренность которого под большим сомнением.

      Fear Danians bringing gifts!

      Хвалу от врага мы почитаем больше чем родство с непутёвым братом.
      Очнитесь, таким способом Вас изменят и черное станет белым.

      Divide and rule!

      Цель врага - сеять распри среди нас, наши братья на Украине поддались этим соблазнам, так если и мы сейчас пойдем этим-же путём, то нам не будет пути назад и нас смогут победить поодиночке, вспомните притчу про прутик и веник в связке.


      - Да чего веник-то вспоминать? Можно еще вспомнить нашествие Батыя - пока князья-русичи - черниговские, киевские, рязанские, галицкие, да новгородские выясняли с помощью топоров и мечей кто самый-пресамый, грабили и разоряли друг друга - Батый перещелкал всю Древнюю Русь поодиночке! Пока грабили и равняли с землей Рязань - Тверь потирала руки. Когда принялись выжигать Тверь, - прыгали от счастья владимирцы и суздальцы. Когда принялись истреблять их - хихикал и подграбливал соседей Киев. Когда степняки ворвались в Киев - радовался и ликовал Новгород с Москвой... Каков результат? Древняя Русь, которая выясняла между собой отношения - оказалась почти вся разорена и отброшена на огромное время назад в развитии, много русских людей погибло. Страна легла под пяту грязных кочевников, а вчерашние князья стали ходить и басурману челом бить в пол на княжение! ВОТ ЧЕГО ДОБИЛИСЬ БРАТЬЯ-СЛАВЯНЕ СВОИМ РАЗБРОДОМ И РАЗДОРОМ! Неужели история опять повторится, господа по обе стороны российско-украинской границы?
  65. +1
    15 July 2014 14: 24
    Еще в СССР в армии многие: узбеки, киргизы, татары и т.д. говорили что украинцы это очень скольские люди и в любой момент можно ожидать от них подлый поступок
  66. 0
    15 July 2014 14: 39
    ДОБАВИТЬ НАДО - БАНДЕРЛОГИ СПОСОБНЫ "ВОЕВАТЬ", ТО БИШЬ - УБИВАТЬ ТОЛЬКО БЕЗОРУЖНЫХ ДЕТЕЙ, ЖЕНЩИН, СТАРИКОВ, А КОГДА ИХ УБИВАЮТ - ОНИ ГОВОРЯТ, ЧТО ЭТО НЕ ПРАВИЛЬНО. ВООБЩЕ СЧИТАЮ НУЖНО 100% УНИЧТОЖИТЬ - ПАРАШЕНКУ, ЛЬЯШКУ, ЯЙЦЕНЮХА, ТОРЧКА, АВАКЯНА, КАЛА-ШВОНДЕРА И ИЖЕ С НИМИ, И ТОГДА ВОЗМОЖНО, НА КАКОЕ-ТО ВРЕМЯ ОБСТАНОВКА СТАБИЛИЗИРУЕТСЯ...
  67. +2
    15 July 2014 14: 40
    Quote: Alexey M
    I do not quite agree.
    And yet, at the insistence of Shamil Basayev, they first went on the radio to the battalion commander, Lt. Col. Mark Yevtyukhin, who was in the 6th company, with a proposal to let their column pass "in a good way."
    - There are a lot of us here, ten times more than you. Why do you need trouble, commander? Nobody will notice the night, the fog, and we will pay very well, - Idris, then Abu Walid, in turn, were commanders from especially close to Khattab.

    But in response, such a virtuoso mat sounded, that radio talks quickly stopped. And it started ...
    6th company, 90 against 2500 - they resisted!
    Only 14 years have passed.


    Read more: http://www.realisti.ru/main/strong_men/pravda-o-6-rote-pskovskogo-desanta.htm#ix

    zz37WaPJbdK

    нам любые оценки кроме тех что ставит командование по барабану..эти словоизлияния недобитка- для пиджаков...враг он и африке враг..я тоже могу написать как их из ямы доставали в говне и слезах и это правда..любой даже самый крутой перец будет в говне если посидит энное время в яме метр на метр...враг стрелявший в моих товарищей а может и в меня расценивается как недобитый враг без срока давности...
    1. 0
      15 July 2014 15: 12
      А аватарку можно былоб и посимпотичней!
    2. 0
      15 July 2014 18: 20
      Сурово но справедливо.
  68. 0
    15 July 2014 15: 14
    Надо составить словарь - кто такой хохол и кто такой украинец!
    Я надеюсь, что для всех это разные понятия.
  69. +1
    15 July 2014 15: 18
    Удивил проницательный комментарий чеченца насчет Европы и России для украинца. Это так и есть! Изначально само слово "украинец" означало религиозную (!) принадлежность (униатство). К слову, Иван Франко по паспорту был русин и считал оскорблением слово "украинец", а в паспорте Т.Шевченко написано "Православный малороссиянин".

    Униатство - это и есть предательство. Униатов не уважают в России, но и католики недолюбливают. Вобщем, судьба всякого предателя. Поэтому и жестокие они, как янычары, что показала Великая отечественная.
  70. 0
    15 July 2014 15: 27
    Quote: Luzhichanin
    This article is called upon us brothers to hate each other even more, and the Chechen pouring praise to donkeys reading it and exclaiming "I am pleased!" love instead of a brother with some kind of fright.

    MINUS article, bold


    Полностью поддерживаю, тщеславие - один из семи смертных грехов!
  71. -1
    15 July 2014 15: 29
    Похвала от врага дорогого стоит. Приятно осознавать свою принадлежность к Великому Народу. Но самое главное для меня не опозориться в критической ситуации, быть достойным подвигов предков.
    1. 0
      15 July 2014 15: 37
      Если-бы без сравнения, то да, а так это семена распри.

      Отделяйте мух от котлет!
  72. -1
    15 July 2014 15: 33
    Нехорошая статья, ненужная. Нам с украинцами еще жить и жить, у нас общая история, границы, общие предки и родственники. Искусственно накрученный трам-тарарам все равно пройдет, хоть и очень долго будет забываться (хотя в Новороссии уже вряд-ли забудется). Так что не надо разжигать.
  73. Vitalka
    0
    15 July 2014 15: 35
    Лучше хороший враг, чем плохой друг. Правда вопрос, кого из себя представляет "украинец"? Сколько областей, столько типажей. Одессит, киевлянин, западэнец...
    И потом, слава мудрости ВВП и Кадырова Ахмат-ходжи, но хороший враг сейчас стал хорошим другом.
  74. +2
    15 July 2014 15: 52
    Помнится как то по тв бывший полевой командир а потом гвардеец Кадырова сказал, что если не дай бог заваруха с сша, то мы всегда за русских. Проваславные нам ближе чем гниль заокеанская.
  75. +2
    15 July 2014 16: 04
    Знакомый чеченец, прошедший и там, а потом в 2008-м в составе Востока ЮО сказал как то: "Русские достойные враги. Воевали и гордились что воюем против русских. Но в Осетии понял что воевать вместе с русскими - честь". Сказано это было совсем недавно, когда хохлы развязали всю эту мерзость...
  76. 0
    15 July 2014 16: 04
    Еще нас и афганцы добрым словом вспоминают laughing
  77. Serg7281
    +2
    15 July 2014 16: 04
    Хороший анализ украинца. Полностью согласен с выводами, сам не раз был свидетелем их беспринципности.
  78. 0
    15 July 2014 17: 31
    ну что тут сказать? правильно пишет Тагир!да, он точно подметил практически все наши особенности и правила нашего поведения. Правда, на сегодняшний день и в России просто много мажористых мальчиков и девочек, но это всё пройдёт...я почему то очень на это надеюсь! ну не может же наше генетическое достояние не включиться и отдать за просто так всё, что наши пращуры соединяли!!!? недавно говорил со своими побратимами, двумя Хасанами: так их ответ: за Россию Пасть порвём! am want to Ukrainians(не хохлы, нет!)попробовать - да ради Бога! я лично ещё не забыл с какого бока калаш заряжать, да и братья тоже не забыли! и хоть мне на сегодня 63, и пара ранений ограничивает движения, но пойду и докажу бандерлогам ,чтоони это зря затеяли! и последнее: за обстрел НАШЕЙ территории я бы стёр с лица Земли стрелявших, а так всё похоже на 200000 3 серьёзное Китайское предупреждение! НУ СКОЛЬКО МОЖНО ТО! am
  79. 0
    15 July 2014 17: 53
    Не приятные факты. Это все имеет быть. В любой нации.Хохлы-не святые. Чё греха таить. Але. Але. В какой мере, это вопрос. И не надо чеченцу, мне, русскому хохлу заливать. И кто мне роднее рассказывать. О востоке, его нравах и обычаях еще красноармеец Сухов говорил. А твари бывают и в семье, и среди родственников, и среди братьев по вере.
  80. Kupez
    +3
    15 July 2014 18: 20
    Хо.Хлам. до чеченцев как до Китая раком.Я чеченов знаю-у них есть СЛОВО и ДЕЛО. А у вас саложеры есть сопли в носу и говно в ж.о.пе.Это то что у вас ни кто не будет отнимать.
  81. strelok93rus
    0
    15 July 2014 18: 32
    Quote: Macarka
    Who is your brother? the one who shoots fellow countrymen from howitzers, and liquid crap on the Russians? remembering the stupid action movie "brother how many is there" ... you are not a brother to me. not a brother. am

    Тут я не соглашусь. Сначало Ярошь кричал мы позовем чеченских боевиков,а когда чеченцы пришли, то очко сжалось очень сильно, не ожидали что они будут на стороне ополченцев.Через СМИ заставили что Рамзан отозвал ребят.Я с дагестанцами работаю, так они готовы ехать рвать нац гвардию.
  82. +2
    15 July 2014 18: 32
    Согласен с автором статьи. Подлость ,склонность к предательству ... это наверно немногие черты свидомого. Вот что им надо было ещё? Страну им нарезали ,промышленность дали ,даже ядерное оружие у них было со средствами доставки .....ииииии всё так просрать. по полной прострать ..вот уж точно говорят ,что каждый народ достоин своих руководителей. ДОНБАСС как был Русский таким и останется.
  83. RSU
    +2
    15 July 2014 18: 44
    Ну да, а чечен то прав - хохлы нация предателей.
  84. Izon
    +2
    15 July 2014 18: 48
    Внимательно прочел. Я обратил внимание что все четные пункты - абсолютная правда, немного не согласен только с 10 - а так по моему во всех нациях и почти в каждом человеке, щас жертвенность не в моде, щас амбиции правят. И почти все нечетные пункты - тож правда, но я не берусь за достоверность пунктов 1 и 11. 1 - не понял, 11- не воевал.Но вот предательство и история - пункты 2 и 4 это прям не в бровь а в глаз: Великая Отечественная - Гитлера цветами встречали и самые жестокие со слов самих немцев - сами же хохлы - полицаи. Информация достоверная: мой дед воевал и только чуток до Берлина не дошел, а моя бабка - общалась с пленными немцами, так вот один из них и рассказал ей: украинцы. Немцы иной раз сами охреневали над их жестокостью. А про Родину - а она у них была, Родина то даже лет 150 назад? Она и РУСЬ то с самого начала Киевской была. Да: И ПОЛНОСТЬЮ СОГЛАСЕН С Дюком.
    1. ingush
      0
      15 July 2014 20: 28
      Была такое.
  85. +4
    15 July 2014 18: 53


    Russian character
  86. +2
    15 July 2014 19: 00
    Служил когда-то в Советской Армии и вместе с чеченцами, они были честны, справедливы и не боялись трудностей, тех кого оттуда знаю-уважаю! И вместе с украинцами-те старались пролезть или в каптерщики или на хлеборезку, тех кого оттуда знаю - не уважаю!
    1. 0
      20 July 2014 08: 50
      И лычку получить,без лычки на дембель никак,а сейчас побросали свои хаты,даже те что с краю,и в Россию,она примет,а потом скажут виновата....Нам не привыкать,у нас европа за спиной.
  87. 0
    15 July 2014 19: 19
    С возрастом становишься более сентиментальней. Правда медики утверждают. что тестостерона в крови становится всё меньше и меньше. Так вот прочитал статью и слёзы на глазах, тут как тут. И гордость распирает и смертельно жалко свою Родину и её народ. Пардон, за чувственность...
  88. +2
    15 July 2014 19: 27
    The Khokhol will remain ugly
    Though you let him in Europe
    Where to act with the mind,
    He only annoys f * ck.

    And that is why in Russia
    Bequeathed as much by Monomakh:
    "Contact God forbid!
    With three - a Jew, a Khokhl and a Pig. "

    The Jew is insidious, although blind;
    Puffy Lyakh - worse than bl ** and,
    Crest - eat the bread with you,
    And then shit in your soup "(c).

    "Ukrainians" T.G.Shevchenko 1851
  89. 0
    15 July 2014 19: 33
    Бред и провокация. Не знаю, кто это написал, чеченец или нигериец, но этот текст рассчитан на недалёкого человека с ограниченным мышлением. Не зря же все великие "революционеры", а Ленин с большевиками, так и в особенности, опирались и возлагали особенные надежды именно на малограмотную и тёмную массу и аж никак не на высокообразованный класс, дворянство. А потому, что подобными дешёвыми статьями и грязной пропагандой не могли и мечтать сподвигнуть умных и образованных людей на свои нечистые дела. Я украинец и большинство моих родственников тоже украинцы. Так что, я должен стесняться этого и принимать на свой счёт грязные инсинуации автора этой "статьи"? Или я хуже знаю украинцев? Нет идеальных народов, как и идеальных людей. Есть и положительные стороны и недостатки. "Произведение" это рассчитано на 15-летних.
    1. 0
      15 July 2014 23: 46
      Володьку не трожь, у него все было, а пошёл за простого человека, потомком коих ты и являешься.
    2. 0
      16 July 2014 02: 16
      Quote: svelto
      этот текст рассчитан на недалёкого человека с ограниченным мышлением

      немножко неправы..этот текст специально рассчитан на среднестатистического россиянина..
      и он работает(гляньте на процент за и против в комментариях--да тут просто продолжение статьи можно писать)
  90. +3
    15 July 2014 19: 39
    Странно ,а есть такой народ Украинцы? Для меня есть "хохлы" и русские ,а украинцев я не видел.)) В армии хохлы хоть одну лычку ,но стремятся получить любыми путями ,при том до самого честного они доходят в последнюю очередь. Закладывают вся и всех ,задницу лижут старательно ,молодых гоняют еще злее чем их гоняли ,но до отличия в службе у них тяжко доходит.) Не знаю предвзято или нет ,но почему то среди хохлов это больше всего встречалось .
  91. +4
    15 July 2014 19: 53
    how exactly noticed good
  92. ingush
    0
    15 July 2014 19: 56
    Quote: Echelon
    Do you think that the text is written in too good Russian. For a resident of Chechnya, let the native Chechens forgive me, he is too written in Russian. For the peoples of the Caucasus, the construction of proposals is different.


    Ты, несомненно, ошибаешься. Твое наивное предположение, что чеченцы знают русский язык плохо, по крайней мере ошибочно.
    Я бывший грозненец и могу утверждать, что грозненские чеченцы ничуть не хуже, а зачастую много лучше знают русский язык, чем жители типичных русских регионов.
  93. 0
    15 July 2014 20: 26
    Спорт ...Дакар-2014... и о опять русский КАМАЗ - лучший !!!
    Дакар 2014. КАМАЗ против заговоров, геев и больших ушей.

  94. Andriano
    0
    15 July 2014 20: 41
    Полный бред. Я как русский большую часть жизни прожил на Украине,служил в России,работал после института в России,бизнес имел в С.Петербурге,могу заявить ,что в массе своей украинцы лучше русских. У них лучше развито чувство семьи,они мягче и добрее.Чувство юмора у украинцев развито гораздо сильнее.А если сравнить глубинку России и Украины, то тут коментарии излишни,украинцы настоящие хозяева у самой дряхлой бабки и огород и куры и во дворе чисто.Поэтому не надо ля ля.
    1. 0
      15 July 2014 23: 51
      Ну ты палку не перегибай, а в семье не без урода.
  95. 0
    15 July 2014 20: 50
    воин уважает воина-пусть даже и врага своего
  96. 0
    15 July 2014 20: 53
    воин уважает воина-пусть даже и врага своего
  97. -1
    15 July 2014 20: 57
    Набор бредней, который даже комментировать не хочется. Особенно про русских, которых в слезах достают из мочи и кала. Минус однозначно!
  98. +1
    15 July 2014 21: 14
    Как тонко все подмечено! Какие выводы и характеристики! Просто, точная характеристика современного укра. Как говорится не в бровь, а в глаз! Замечательно! Сразу видно думающего человека и не плохого психолога. Спасибо автору и конечно +, жалко нельзя еще несколько + добавить wink Буквально несколько минут назад просматривал Краматорский форум, это за гранью морали. Иуда, по сравнению с краматорскими форумчанами, невинный ребенок, но он повесился на осине из за угрызений совести, а этих ничем не проймешь. Действительно : "Украина це Европа" fool
  99. 0
    15 July 2014 21: 35
    В Афгане до сих пор говорят о русских как о настоящих воинах, даже спустя много лет, а о натовцах, точнее о ах - как о трусливых собаках.
    1. +1
      15 July 2014 23: 53
      В Афгане были и украинцы, казахи, узбеки .... но для них Мы все были Русские.
  100. +1
    15 July 2014 21: 47
    Вот что об украинцев сказал русский публицист и историк Андрей Стороженков изданной в 1925 г. в Берлине брошюре «Украинское движение. Краткий исторический очерк, преимущественно по личным воспоминаниям»

    «Украинцы» - это особый вид людей. Родившись русским, украинец не чувствует себя русским, отрицает в самом себе свою «русскость» и злобно ненавидит все русское. Он согласен, чтобы его называли кофром, готтентотом - кем угодно, но только не русским. слова: Русь, русский, Россия, российский - действуют на него, как красный платок на быка. Без пены у рта он не может их слышать. Но особенно раздражают украинцев cтapинныe, предковские названия: Малая Русь, Малороссия, малорусский, малороссийский. слыша их, он бешено кричит: «Гоньба!» («Позор!» От польск. hanba). Это объясняется тем, что многие из «украинцев» по тупости и невежеству полагают, будто быв этих названиях кроется что-то пренебрежительное или презрительное по отношению к населению Южной России. Нам не встречалось ни одного «украинца», который захотел бы выслушать научное объяснение этих названий и правильно усвоить себе их СМЫСЛ'.

"Right Sector" (banned in Russia), "Ukrainian Insurgent Army" (UPA) (banned in Russia), ISIS (banned in Russia), "Jabhat Fatah al-Sham" formerly "Jabhat al-Nusra" (banned in Russia) , Taliban (banned in Russia), Al-Qaeda (banned in Russia), Anti-Corruption Foundation (banned in Russia), Navalny Headquarters (banned in Russia), Facebook (banned in Russia), Instagram (banned in Russia), Meta (banned in Russia), Misanthropic Division (banned in Russia), Azov (banned in Russia), Muslim Brotherhood (banned in Russia), Aum Shinrikyo (banned in Russia), AUE (banned in Russia), UNA-UNSO (banned in Russia), Mejlis of the Crimean Tatar People (banned in Russia), Legion “Freedom of Russia” (armed formation, recognized as terrorist in the Russian Federation and banned)

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