Ukrainian security forces squeeze the ring around Donetsk

Tension continues to increase in Donetsk, reports "NTV". According to eyewitnesses, the National Guard of Ukraine resumed a massive shelling of the city. Helicopters circling above the houses, firing on residential areas, there are dead and wounded. Violent battles take place in neighboring villages.

In one of the suburbs of Donetsk - the village of Karlovka - Ukrainian security forces are trying to seize a major road junction, but the militia manages to contain the onslaught. Karlovka is fired from Grad multiple rocket launchers. A large number of residential buildings suffered, there are civilian casualties.

Ukrainian military take the city in a tight ring. In some areas between the border of the capital of Donbass and the front line there are no more than 20 kilometers left. According to the militia, mines are torn in a few meters from their positions.

Despite promises not to apply Aviation and artillery in the operation to seize Donetsk, the Ukrainian military nevertheless began shelling some urban areas. The Grad system was used in the village of Maryinka. There is information about dozens of dead. It was also reported that aviation struck at Petrovka and Krasnogorovka.

Comments

[sscha]

Junta believe - do not respect yourself!

[portoc65]

According to some reports, the losses of ukrov already amounted to 6000 people .. indirectly confirms this plan to urge all men up to 50 years old.

[mirag2]

No conversationjunta believe-deceive yourself.
I allow myself to return to recent reports on the losses of ukrov (here) - remember ?:
"Losses of security officials: 10 people l / s, 30 people l / s, 200 people l / s, 50 people l / s." ...
in the reports from Strelkov, there are more similar numbers: "19,8,67, etc.)
I'm afraid that 6000 from the same series.
Why don't I still believe it? I'm afraid to be disappointed when it turns out that this is not true. Yes and if the militia really had the forces capable of inflicting such losses on the enemy, I would not worry or worry about them.
a "call-out" is a way to control the populations of rebellious areas — by staying clean before the international community.
After all, why should Russia be pulled in? In order to be able to confirm its accusations against Russia, they say, we said earlier that Russia is the root cause of everything, and the Ukrainians only wanted freedom, democracy, tolerance, to join the EU.
And the farther, the more difficult it is to keep secret the victims of peace and their crimes, including military ones.

[GRAY]

Quote: portoc65

the cold will cause problems for dill

If the city is taken in blockade, then it will not be too hot there, in a concrete box without heating it is very uncomfortable.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: GRAY

If the city is taken in blockade, then it will not be too hot there, in a concrete box without heating it is very uncomfortable.

And so they will freeze in the steppes with their thief quartermaster loggers.

[Mama_Cholli]

Quote: portoc65

According to some reports, the losses of ukrov already amounted to 6000 people .. indirectly confirms this plan to urge all men up to 50 years old.

They themselves have created problems for themselves, they just don’t understand which ones. People are worse than the cold ...

[Giant thought]

Hang on Brothers Militias. Soon, the junta will begin to run out of steam.

[Vesnik]

You won’t fight with sticks. Need a weapon of support.
No one will give up.

[nils]

"... Despite promises not to use aircraft and artillery in the operation to seize Donetsk, the Ukrainian military began shelling urban areas. The Grad system was used in the village of Marinka. There are reports of dozens of victims."

Who promised this?
In contrast, Russia fulfills its promises!

1. On 17 of April, the Geneva agreements turned for Russia the beginning of a series of humiliations. The behind-the-scenes agreements implied Russia's non-interference in the situation in the South-East of Ukraine and the refusal of any help to the militias. The West insisted on compliance with the agreement and threatened with new sanctions if the situation does not normalize. The West interpreted the aggravation of resistance as failure to fulfill the terms of the contract. The Kremlin has moved into a stalemate stage of passive concern.
2. 07 May Putin’s statement on the need to postpone the referendum in southeastern Ukraine.
Putin: "... elections in Ukraine are movement in the right direction"
3. 11 of May Referenda in Lugansk and Donetsk. There is no reaction from Russia.
4. 19 May withdrawal of troops from the border to the places of permanent deployment.
5. May 23 Putin: "Russia will respect the choice of the Ukrainian people"
The president of Russia made such a statement, speaking to the heads of leading world news agencies.
6. On May 24, French President Francois Hollande and German Chancellor Angela Merkel had a telephone conversation with Russian President Vladimir Putin, in which they reminded of his public promises to respect the choice of the Ukrainian people.
... French President Hollande, German Chancellor Merkel and Russian President Putin agreed with the view that the popular will should take place in the interests of stability in Ukraine.
7. 4 June Obama: Putin must recognize the presidential election in Ukraine
5 June Ambassador Mikhail Zurabov travels from Russia to the inauguration of Poroshenko
8. 6 June Meeting in Normandy. Putin and Poroshenko shook hands at the meeting, despite assurances of the opposite of our press and Kremlin bloggers.
Poroshenko: Ukraine expects the cancellation of the decision of the Federation Council on the use of the Russian army, and also plans together with the Russian side actions to close the borders where armed conflicts take place.
9. 7 June Inauguration of Poroshenko, attended by Russian Ambassador Zurabov
Russian President Vladimir Putin instructed the FSB border service to introduce all possible measures to strengthen the Russian-Ukrainian border and prevent its illegal crossing. This is stated in the press service of the Russian president.
Such an order of Vladimir Putin appeared an hour after the newly elected President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko took the oath.
10. 22 June Russian President Vladimir Putin supported the peace plan of President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko
11. On 24 on June, Russian President Vladimir Putin proposed that the Federation Council cancel the decree on the use of Russian troops in Ukraine in connection with the start of trilateral negotiations to resolve the situation in the southeast of this country.
An ultimatum on the withdrawal of permission to send troops has been completed.
12. On June 30, the President of Russia invited Ukrainian border guards and OSCE observers to the Russian border "for the period of maintaining the ceasefire regime."

WHAT'S NEXT?

[Rom14]

Is there really no help and weapons ??

[skeptic]

Quote: Thought Giant

Hang on Brothers Militias. Soon, the junta will begin to run out of steam.

I remember that in the army, in the first year of service, the sergeants had a favorite joke, when performing this or that exercise, it seems that there are no forces and the team once, twice, three, four says the tone of the last team and you begin to relax, team 1-2- 3-4 starts to accelerate again. So, reading your comment, that feeling, a new load,
instead of ending.

What an exhalation can be, the whole host of Soviet weapons has not yet been utilized, the conveyors for deliveries of Western equipment and ammunition have not yet been launched, not to mention incomplete mobilization, the beginning of the recruitment of all rabble from around the world. Everything is just beginning - if Putin, by some miracle, will not be able to resolve everything.

In the meantime, Russia is wiping away without answering - the gringes are frantically spinning the flywheel of provocations to launch Vietnam - 2, but with a change of the whipping boy.

[sever.56]

I trust Strelkov more, who said that the defense of Donetsk is well organized and strong enough to give a good rebuff to dill. Igor Ivanovich is responsible for his words.

[Lord of the Sith]

In the photo there is a residential building in Maryinka.

[Rigla]

Guys hold on! The potential of the militia is growing by leaps and bounds, and Bandera is exhausted.

[Wels75]

How would you like to hear the news that a column of armored vehicles entered Donetsk to help the DPR !!
KEEP PEOPLE! GOD WITH YOU!

[DMB-88]

Hold on, hold on, hold on, and "Battalions are asking for fire."

[portoc65]

Porashenko announced at night that it is possible to use chemical weapons .. if this is not fake, then this is the limit of atrocity

[Nahum]

These stsuki will do anything to stay in power. Even the use of weapons of mass destruction. But Geyropa doesn’t see anything! The hypocrites are damned ... I don’t know how and when, but all this will return to them one day!
But when, nevertheless, the glorious Donetsk miners will stand under the gun? Already at their mines, shells are torn, and they all cut the coal to Akhmetov tirelessly. Stakhanovites dol * bath ...

[kergudu straight]

Quote: Naum

These stsuki will do anything to stay in power. Even the use of weapons of mass destruction. But Geyropa doesn’t see anything! The hypocrites are damned ... I don’t know how and when, but all this will return to them one day!
But when, nevertheless, the glorious Donetsk miners will stand under the gun? Already at their mines, shells are torn, and they all cut the coal to Akhmetov tirelessly. Stakhanovites dol * bath ...

When your children ask you to eat at home, you will also cut the coals so that they do not die of starvation, it’s easy for you to scold the miners sitting in front of the computer, but try to explain to the hungry children about the Maidan, politics and who is to blame for them by the drum; they’ll lie down or hungry, I'm sure the bosses of the miners have already run away for a long time, but simple hard workers have remained, be sure the miners will not stand aside, and for what money the militia is fighting, what grandmothers are buying weapons? For the same coal that the miners chopped and will cut so New Russia won and should not be blamed for this

[AQUARIUS 65]

Nahum
But Geyropa doesn’t see anything! Hypocrites damned ...

[meriem1]

There is such information. I hope fake .. otherwise ((((((((((((((((

[kergudu straight]

A pig driven into a corner understands perfectly well that, in any situation, a kirdyk and the removal of tonsils through the bunch hole is prepared, so that he will shit to the fullest and use chemical weapons without a twinge of conscience, he turned on a rat that does not eat something so that others do not get it, on Ukraine has already begun to understand that the scribe has come to the polar beast, I am sure they are already thinking how to surrender to Russia, but they don’t know how to do it, Russia does not get involved in the war “stupidly” no matter what, but after the use of chemical weapons it will fit anyway

[skeptic]

Quote: Kergudo Straight

Russia "stupidly" does not get involved in the war no matter what, and after the use of chemical weapons will fit in anyway

Russia will intervene, in the official sense, only from the UN mandate. Poroshenko, using chemical weapons, which will lead to mass casualties, will be declared a war criminal, with an appropriate, further scenario.
And Russia will intervene, not as an aggressor, but as a peacemaker.

[Avenich]

Quote: skeptic

Russia will intervene, in the official sense, only from the UN mandate. Poroshenko, using chemical weapons, which will lead to mass casualties, will be declared a war criminal, with an appropriate, further scenario.
And Russia will intervene, not as an aggressor, but as a peacemaker.

I think this is not to be hoped for. Even if the most lazy CNN operator captures, Poroshenko personally will throw a chemical grenade toward the Republicans. Even if a nearby grenade flies poison Poroshenko and the most lazy CNN operator, there are plenty of pSaki removers who unanimously declare that this provocation was arranged. Remember the test tube detergent as evidence of the presence of chemical weapons in Iran. Moreover, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the outlying state has already replied that terrorists were attacking the Russian territory, even though it was not Russian troops.

[saag]

Quote: Avenich

Remember test tube detergent

It was an advertisement, they showed you an ordinary powder and said why pay more :-)

[kergudu straight]

Quote: skeptic

Quote: Kergudo Straight

Russia "stupidly" does not get involved in the war no matter what, and after the use of chemical weapons will fit in anyway

Russia will intervene, in the official sense, only from the UN mandate. Poroshenko, using chemical weapons, which will lead to mass casualties, will be declared a war criminal, with an appropriate, further scenario.
And Russia will intervene, not as an aggressor, but as a peacemaker.

so am I about it, thanks my thought you correctly caught

[Matroskin 18]

Poroshenko perfectly understands that the operation must be completed quickly and it doesn’t matter which way, otherwise the Ukrainian army and the whole country will simply fall apart under the weight of internal problems.

[lukke]

Despite promises not to use aviation and artillery in the operation to capture Donetsk

Well, in my opinion, no one believes in "promises" for a long time

[alex13-61]

Quote: lukke

"promises" in my opinion no one believes for a long time

He has already promised: in 3 days to restore the mandan, 1000 hryvnia per day to Ukrainian warriors, 1 families of the 000s ... He knows how to ....

[Coffee_time]

Without artillery urki stsat to enter the city .... it’s immediately obvious that the American school

[Mama_Cholli]

Quote: Coffee_time

Without artillery urki stsat to enter the city .... it’s immediately obvious that the American school

They will not be met there with flowers ... Many civilians died because of these European-oriented goblins (your profanity could have been here).

[Caa]

Despite promises not to use aircraft and artillery in the operation to seize Donetsk, the Ukrainian military still began shelling some urban areas. The system "Grad" was used in the village Marinka. There are information about dozens of dead. It was also reported that aviation struck Petrovka and Krasnogorovka.

Only Ukrainian zombies believe such promises. And also they are not embarrassed by the ATO, as a result of which large-scale hostilities with mass killings of civilians are indiscriminately taking place. Although, what is not clear here: there are no "great descendants of the UPA" in the Donbass, and the rest can be classified as terrorists and killed ..

[Carlos]

Soon they will be exhausted and will begin to use chemical weapons.

[Mountain shooter]

God forbid! Chemical weapons in a millionth city ... Hiroshima is resting.
Then the star-studded Kiev will have to be bombed, instead of Damascus?

[volodyk50]

NTV reports a television company that does not have a film crew in the war zone. The site turns into a news feed mail ru, which publishes mostly unconfirmed data. I would like objective lighting. If you write that there are wounded or dead - publish the proof, otherwise the value of this information is zero.

Despite promises not to use aircraft and artillery in the operation to seize Donetsk, the Ukrainian military still began shelling some urban areas. The system "Grad" was used in the village Marinka. There are information about dozens of dead. It was also reported that aviation struck Petrovka and Krasnogorovka.

What else remains for them. That Poroshenko that the militia ..... this war can not end peacefully, one of them must leave, the second to win.

[meriem1]

Justify !!!! Why is there no NTV group ??? Speechless cues do not call respect.

[Old Cynic]

Oh dear! But you still have no idea why there are no NTV reporters there ???
Are you actually watching this channel? You’re probably fanating, right?
Scandals, intrigues, investigations!!!
Labrador Koni will soon become a victim of his own physiology !!!
For, after the Master’s divorce from the Owner, there was no one to take her out into the yard ...
FSO guards put a bolt with a parting on the suffering of an unfortunate animal, despite pissed berets !!!!
The special correspondent of our television company urgently leaves for Putin's secret lair to bring out the poor animal to ask .... "!!!

And you expect a similar comment from NTV?
In relation to PEOPLE?

Minus mine - for a stupid question ... For lyuboff to "Dump".

[Mama_Cholli]

Subtly ... But this is their "national" TV channel, and why should they go into the heat ahead of time? (key phrase - early time)

[Old Cynic]

Who are "them"?

[Ascetic]

Quote: volodyk50

a television company that does not have a film crew in the war zone.

Harry Knyagnitsky at NTV in Lugansk. To fighters of New Russia important to destroy the southern cauldron until the end of the "regrouping" of the Slavic junta squads. According to the message http://planet2020.ru/ In the Saur-Grave area, its reserves are slowly gathering. The forces for the assault are clearly not enough, but it is impossible to delay the assault on the junta. The victory of New Russia in the southern boiler will turn the tide, in which case the assault will no longer be needed. The time factor in the south is almost everything. And for both sides. Shooters very skillfully takes advantage of the internal communication lines, which gives him an advantage in time to concentrate troops in the right place. The clumsy junta troops, although numerous, are scattered over a fairly large area. And they are constantly late. In three boilers, a significant group of junta punishers was collected.
The Southern Cauldron is 2 battalions consisting of tactical groups. Their number is up to 1400 people. The battalion from Ivano-Frankivsk has a couple of hundred. Parts of border guards of unknown numbers. It turns out that there are more than 3000 people in the boiler.
They are practically deprived of the supply of ammunition and equipment, and are not ready to defend themselves for a long time. On the other hand, a time factor exists. In a week (maximum), the junta will be able to deliver one or more strikes, which can draw significant forces in the area of ​​Debaltseve and Saur-Mogily. Of course, they won’t achieve success (punitive forces don’t have such forces), but they will be able to extend the agony of the encircled forces for a further period, delaying the militia reserves for retaliation.

[parusnik]

Despite promises not to use aviation and artillery in the operation to capture Donetsk
Waiting from Bandera nobility ... naive ..

[Wolka]

junta tanks will not enter the city, but the abundance of sabotage groups is alarming ...

[sever.56]

There are no such groups in Donetsk. And in Lugansk tonight their base was discovered and well gouged.

[Old Cynic]

There are no such groups in Donetsk.

SHO ??? And my brother on Shevchenko, on Universitetskaya, on Ilyich Avenue with whom silently goes to knives ??? Apparently with drinking companions, in your opinion ...
My minus is for hard stone brains.

[sever.56]

And not SHO. You could put a minus and without insults. It does not honor you, not you to evaluate the quality of my brains. It’s just your rudeness that suggests that it is your brains that can be evaluated. If your brother is fighting with Bandera, honor and praise be to him.

[Old Cynic]

When I put a minus, always, unlike many members of the forum, I always justify my action.
In what way have I offended you? The fact that "through the ass" told you that a counter-Ukrop war was being waged in Donetsk, what did you deny? And in THIS you saw an insult ???
But nothing that I use the keyboard? Does IT hurt you?
And my rudeness? Doesn’t it cover your lies?

PS You, you, yours, and other respectful forms are written with a capital ... This is so ... Just ... Note ...

And we will transfer the pick, as I suggest to everyone in PM ... We will not litter the Forum ...

[sever.56]

You insulted me by evaluating my brains as solid stones. I know the rules of the Russian language and I appeal to you to people whose opinion I respect.

[MSA]

Can crush them with what they do not know how to do and are most afraid of - melee

[Big den]

This is the agony of the junta, if they do not show success to the owner then they will not see money from the IMF, and militarily they have little business.

[Mountain shooter]

Probably dying agony. If their southern group is not released, dill will be in a bad position, because the militia will receive a lot of heavy equipment in the form of trophies. Silenok they do not have enough for Donetsk.

[meriem1]

God give it !!!! Good Luck and Blessings of the Lord!

[andrey56]

Ukrainians will destroy all equipment with the threat of capture, this is obvious!

[maestro123]

Russia may deliver targeted strikes in Ukraine (C)

It’s time to carry out the most targeted strike, but more ...

[demon184]

It’s high time to deliver targeted strikes in Kiev and Phashington, in Kiev it’s a rage with a pig-presenter and completely erase the phishington from the face of the earth.

[Yellow white]

Quote: portoc65

According to some reports, the losses of ukrov already amounted to 6000 people .. indirectly confirms this plan to urge all men up to 50 years old.

Until the fall, at that pace?
I'd love to, but if so, it will not be Donetsk and Lugansk, but the ruins, worse than the Brest Fortress!
And mountains of corpses, mountains, both militias and civilians ...
Something daring and anticipatory is needed.

[JonnyT]

Of course, being far from it is difficult to judge the real state of affairs, but if you analyze the information from the network, it turns out that the ATO is about to drown from overvoltage ..... Now dill will spend the last resources on the storm of Donetsk, suffer losses and will not succeed. And then, even next to the city, they will be in fire bags, in an open field, battered and demoralized.

[Russ69]

Quote: JonnyT

Of course, being far from it is difficult to judge the real state of affairs, but if you analyze the information from the network, it turns out that the ATO is about to drown from overstrain ....

This is more the desire of Internet analysts than reality, alas ..

[Old Cynic]

The National Guard of Ukraine resumed massive shelling of the city ...

Not "cities", but separate areas, no need to lie! The areas under fire are Petrovka and Trudovskie. In the rest, everything is quiet.

In one of the suburbs of Donetsk - the village of Karlovka ...

Karlovka has never been a suburb of Donetsk.

[Russ69]

To be honest with the situation, the situation with the militia is not so hot. There are local good luck and strikes, but no more. Dill slowly, but compress the ring and sooner or later cut off from the border of the republic and Donetsk from Lugansk. It may not be enough strength to storm the cities, but they will arrange some kind of blockade. And good, it will be generally not enough ...

[andrey56]

Boilers are being liquidated and Ukrainians no longer have the strength to capture border crossings.

[Floock]

1. If the population of the DPR does not support the militias, Donetsk will fall.
2. If Donetsk falls - two options:
- Or the next one will be Crimea - and there will be an occasion to give an answer, send troops, reach Kiev, judge the junta, crush the Bender-partisans;
- either the junta will stop at the border and begin to solve internal problems - purges, terror, millions of refugees to Russia;
3. If touched by Crimea, Russia will respond, then NATO can help Ukrainians and send troops. And this is the Third World. But NATO will not be unanimous. And the United States alone stumble.
4. Most likely - Bendera will stop and engage in internal showdowns.
5. Winter. There is no money and do not give. People with weapons from the Ukrainian army are messing around. The oligarchs are biting. Maidan does not diverge. Bender is rampant. And the people are angrier and hungrier. And indeed on the verge of survival. And what will happen, what do you think?
It seems to me that the DNR will fall, Strelkov with people will leave for Russia, the ATO will triumphantly end, and the fun will begin.
It remains only to pray for the people of Ukraine.

[Old Cynic]

If the population of the DPR does not support the militia - Donetsk will fall

My dear! "Population" - ALREADY does not support !!!

next will be Crimea

I agree. They have enough mind.

If touched by Crimea, Russia will respond, then NATO can help Ukrainians and send troops. And this is the Third World. But NATO will not be unanimous. And the United States alone stumble.

But here I do not agree ... Nobody will climb to the Crimea, except for 15% who voted for Lyashko.
"Svidomye", though "independent", but, all, well, they are strong in their rural mind ...
And 3,14-gifts - "VELKAM TOU CRIMEA !!!
And below, in a tiny font, an attribute:

"the safety of your ass nobody bears any responsibility"
OR:
no one is responsible for the safety of your asses

[Floock]

Quote: Old Cynic

But here I do not agree ... Nobody will climb to the Crimea, except for 15% who voted for Lyashko.

This we understand. Ukrainians are now like zombies, proof the next article http://topwar.ru/54107-ukraina-s-oporoy-na-mestechkovyy-nacizm.html
I consider the existing regime in Ukraine to be clearly Nazi, falling under the article "crimes against humanity." And they, as history has shown, have a property - external expansion. An attempt to return Crimea by force is possible. I hope so. "Polite people" will have a great opportunity to take a closer look at Kiev and Lviv)))

[Old Cynic]

[quote] An attempt to return Crimea by force is possible. I hope so. "Polite people" will have a great opportunity to take a closer look at Kiev and Lviv / quote]
If I were healthy, I myself would have crossed the Klovsky descent, but along the Moscow one with the PKK ...
I really want to meet the colonel of the SA Mulyava, the bitch finished ... He taught at KVVIDKUS at the department of political education, and after 1991 became one of the ideological guides of RUH-a ...

[222222]

Floock (1) SU Today, 14:08 AM New
1. If ..

Nikolai Starikov. Vlog - Issue No. 46 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZVGAvd4AUc]

[Zomanus]

And it will be so now. Then we crush them, then they us. Moreover, they will crush us as you like, because America allowed them everything. And Europe does not care, the Slavs die and FIGs with him, the more he dies, the better. No matter how you think, you need to start deep raids behind enemy lines. Otherwise, they will crush like Slavyansk. Already crush.

[Vesnik]

We need artillery systems, air defense.
As destruction, the number of militias grows significantly. Kiev understands this, but does it consciously! You need to quickly and quickly kill everyone and set the flag! Does not work. Resist.

[Pathfinder_II]

The artillery systems appear, on YouTube I saw three MTLBs in a column with 100-mm regimental guns mounted on a BS-3 44-year-old gun. In Russia, a huge number of these tools are in storage. Also recently drove past the column of trailers with 6-7 BMP-2, the paint is battered by time, moving in the direction of the Koltsovo airfield. These are only my delusional assumptions, but it seems they may end up in SE.

[Agent 008]

Quote: Giant thought

Hang on Brothers Militias. Soon, the junta will begin to run out of steam.

And if the second wind opens?

[dgm]

I do not believe that dill has enough arrogance to beat in the center of Donetsk. There and the subway was not allowed to erase because of the possibility of landslides.

[Old Cynic]

Precious you are mine!
Where did you get such information ??? Share! Who and When "Not allowed to build a subway" ???
A reference to the ban, please ... AND A LINK TO THE REAL HISTORY OF CONSTRUCTION OF THE METRO IN DONETSK !!!
Otherwise, you are a waste of time!

PS My minus is for "crowing".

[GRAY]

Quote: dgm

I do not believe that dill has enough arrogance to beat in the center of Donetsk. There and the subway was not allowed to erase because of the possibility of landslides.

[Agent 008]

Quote: Floock

It seems to me that the DNR will fall, Strelkov with people will leave for Russia, the ATO will triumphantly end, and the fun will begin.
It remains only to pray for the people of Ukraine

Those ukro-zombies who are for the Junta can already be written off, but for those who have not figured it out, and for those who are for New Russia, we will definitely pray!

[el.krokodil]

Quote: Coffee_time

Without artillery urki stsat to enter the city .... it’s immediately obvious that the American school

what school is there? .. just stsat and that’s all .. a fart for geyropa is cherished ..

[Vik.Tor]

They’ll squeeze a point, not Donetsk!

[Auralski]

I read the comments and did not understand why the article was added. The darling is her defeatist.

[father nikon]

Ukrainian security forces squeeze the ring around Donetsk

Everyone remembers well how the dill had a "shrinking ring" at the entrance to Slavyansk
Donetsk is definitely too tough for them!

[dgm]

For The Old Cynic. Maybe I was wrong. My post was based on memories from my childhood. I lived in Donbass until I was 87. If you have offended, please excuse me. But the meaning does not change, there are a lot of voids near Donetsk !!!
PS And the rattle Old cynic is almost suitable, You could call the old bore.

[Old Cynic]

But essentially answer, hollow? A frozen subway station? AND?
So, I repeat the question: "Who and when did not allow the construction of a metro in Donetsk?"
Answer, he’s empty, once crowed!
And eat your postscript for breakfast! It may help not to write false posts.

[Leshka]

so that at dill all the shells exploded

[Cristall]

in war as in war ...
And it’s morally allowed to use RTZO and heavy artillery. Another thing is that Donetsk and Lugansk are still not Slavyansk - there are a lot of valuable industries. High population density (which may not support militias - which means bombing them means incline them towards militias)
Here, perforce, surgical strikes are needed .. is APU capable?
To drive in 2 large cities of Ukraine to the level of the Second World War, it means to write everyone down to the list of "non-citizens", then is there any point in doing something? Then everything can be evened out ... but you can't.
In general, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have a difficult task and need to minimize losses and their own and property, and on the other hand, having the opportunity to use all types of weapons, they should not "replenish" the ranks of the militia with bombs.
It will be difficult for both warring parties ...
(I do not support either side, just because Ukrainians kill Ukrainians ..... and their actions also kill peaceful Ukrainians! and they are all people ... and Maidan is to blame for everything ...)

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Cristall

In general, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have a difficult task and need to minimize losses and their own and property, and on the other hand, having the opportunity to use all types of weapons, they should not "replenish" the ranks of the militia with bombs.
It will be difficult for both warring parties ...

It is even more difficult to argue that there is a united Ukraine. She's not there. It was destroyed by the junta under the leadership of the United States and the hands of the National Guard and the Pravosek. There was a weak chance of keeping it within the framework of federalization, but it was not used. You can't glue a broken cup. We must support the side on whose side the truth is, and she is on the side of Novorossiya. The more successfully they fight, the less chances the junta has to stay in power. One has only to throw it off and weaken the influence of the "chief puppeteer of the United States", the fewer people will die and the faster peace will come. It was not the Donbass with the Luhansk region that went to bomb Kiev, but Kiev came to the land of New Russia with the war. All human blood is on the hands of the junta.

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This is really bad, the Nazis just take the quantity. And when winter comes it will be even worse for the militias, cold, hunger and inability to hide. And something I can’t believe that at such a pace Novorossia will last a month if the main Nazi battalions are not destroyed ...

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The Ukrainian army squeezes the sphincter ring on the approaches to Donetsk