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Ukrainian MP: it is impossible to complete the ATO before winter

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The antiterrorist operation in eastern Ukraine takes on the character of a protracted conflict. About this Ukrainian agency 112.UA the deputy of the Verkhovna Rada, secretary of the parliamentary committee on defense Sergei Kaplin said.

Ukrainian MP: it is impossible to complete the ATO before winter


“The border of Ukraine from the Russian Federation is extremely difficult to control at the moment - it is almost 2000 kilometers. I said not so long ago that I should not speculate on this topic - four thousand border guards and five thousand battalion fighters cannot do it. ”
said the deputy.

In his opinion, in order to bring the end of the confrontation closer, two important factors must be realized.

“First. We need to prepare for the fact that it will be impossible to do this before winter. Now we need to throw efforts to prepare for the winter campaign "
expressed his thoughts Kaplin.

“The second. Finally, we must admit that we alone cannot fight against Russia alone, without Europe and the support of the world community, even in conditions of the rapid restoration of the combat capability of our armed forces. We must become a part and a factor in domestic politics in Europe. ”
said the people's choice.

According to him, this can be achieved only with the help of a serious diplomatic and media landing force in the EU, which would bring to every house “a simple dilemma: either the Europeans will support Ukraine, or they will have a third world war”.

“If you do not stop Russia at the moment, Europe can get a global conflict through 10-11 years. But at the moment, as I see it, there is no understanding of the seriousness of Russia's intentions in the EU countries. ”
Caplin concluded in conclusion.
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  1. vorobey
    vorobey 14 July 2014 12: 18
    +28
    But in winter Russian frosts will come.
    1. divangeneral
      divangeneral 14 July 2014 12: 21
      +8
      they seem warmer in winter than ours
      1. portoc65
        portoc65 14 July 2014 12: 25
        +11
        Drugs will warm them .. Like on the Maidan ..
        1. Koresh
          Koresh 14 July 2014 12: 27
          +31
          Winter in this year will be very cold ...
          1. Canep
            Canep 14 July 2014 12: 53
            +9
            If you do not go to negotiations, then the war, like any war, will last until one of the parties has exhausted all resources. Ukraine is a big country and I think there’s still plenty of resources in it for about 10 years, and not a single opponent about Russia in the protracted exhaustion war could defeat it. I think if nothing changes then this war will blaze for a long time, a vivid example of Syria.
            1. Alekseev
              Alekseev 14 July 2014 13: 10
              +2
              Quote: Canep
              the war will last until one of the parties to exhaust all resources.

              Well, not necessarily all.
              Winners sometimes get trophies such that the complete exhaustion of all resources is out of the question.
              As the resource of human patience and stupidity begins to be exhausted, then immediately the end of the war and Kiev foul power.
              1. Koresh
                Koresh 14 July 2014 13: 45
                +11
                We have few resources ... There is not enough gas in storage facilities until winter. The economic situation is even worse, soon there will be nothing for the soldiers to pay so that they continue to fight, and there will be less and less patriotic soldiers every day.
            2. comprochikos
              comprochikos 14 July 2014 14: 21
              +7
              ... we will not be able to fight alone against Russia, without Europe and the support of the world community, even in conditions of the rapid restoration of the combat effectiveness of our armed forces.

              They rolled their lips to support Europe in their schizophrenia. In Europe, it is not fools to fight for this garbage can with Russia. And finally it’s somehow strange, they are "at war" with Russia, but Russia is not vkurse. Sick.
              1. boboss
                boboss 14 July 2014 20: 51
                +1
                "A simple dilemma: either the Europeans will support Ukraine, or they will face the third world war."
                The phrase - oak - and so, and so - the third world. Or maybe stop punitive actions?
          2. inkass_98
            inkass_98 14 July 2014 12: 58
            +4
            It must be admitted at last that we cannot fight alone against Russia alone, without Europe and the support of the world community, even in conditions of the rapid restoration of the combat effectiveness of our armed forces. We must become a part and factor of domestic politics in Europe ”

            Some deputy is unpatriotic. Prezik said that the H.Oh.loarmia is the strongest, and this renegade doubts:
            1. Muadipus
              Muadipus 14 July 2014 13: 16
              +13
              meanwhile in Brazil
            2. Tony bullet
              Tony bullet 14 July 2014 14: 37
              +1
              o_o is he serious ???
          3. Muadipus
            Muadipus 14 July 2014 13: 38
            +3
            In fact, the coldest point in Ukraine is considered Lugansk :(
            The low air temperature recorded in Ukraine is -42 ° С. It was observed in the extreme east of the country in Lugansk.

            taken from a suspicious site (although it does not contradict other sources) http://ukrmap.su/ru-g8/873.html

            The average indicators in Ukraine are -1 and -5 C. you can handle this temperature, it's not -15 or -30. Of course, the lack of a gas contract will hit the Ukrainian economy.
            But, I draw your attention to the fact that in New Russia, in conditions of war and destroyed infrastructure, the situation is even sadder. Yes there is coal underfoot, there will be something to flood a hut if it is still intact. but how to heat a high-rise building? In general, I wonder how things are with Donetsk boiler houses? What kind of fuel do they use? Is Donbass ready for winter in general?
            1. Azovian
              Azovian 14 July 2014 17: 08
              +3
              Donbass do not bzdi. DONBASS will not give offense. coal will be. Donbass will not freeze.
          4. alexgrin
            alexgrin 14 July 2014 16: 27
            0
            Right where you want !! neighing for a long time))))
      2. vorobey
        vorobey 14 July 2014 12: 26
        +14
        Quote: divangeneral
        they seem warmer in winter than ours


        warmer this is where the chances with bananas are growing ... this is what I understand warmer ... and so one hell ....
        1. portoc65
          portoc65 14 July 2014 12: 57
          0
          yeah .. like where I live .. for sure ... what a warmer one ... freeze easily .. Winter has always been an ally of Russia .. she will do what the militias cannot do ..
          1. Jackyun
            Jackyun 14 July 2014 13: 14
            +5
            Quote: portoc65
            Winter has always been an ally of Russia

            Well, yes, of course! All your failures and defeats must be blamed on the Russian winter. This is every self-respecting gay specialist knows. And Ukraine, the same Geyropa!
            1. comprochikos
              comprochikos 14 July 2014 16: 41
              0
              And in winter, more denyuzhkov will fly to maintain the orcs.
      3. abc_02
        abc_02 14 July 2014 12: 30
        +9
        Quite the contrary, dampness is dankness. -30 in the Urals is easier to transfer than -20 in the Donbas.
      4. Black Colonel
        Black Colonel 14 July 2014 12: 30
        +8
        Russian Frosts are those that come from Russia am am am
        1. Muadipus
          Muadipus 14 July 2014 12: 45
          +8
          But at the moment, as I see, there is no understanding of the seriousness of Russia's intentions in the EU countries
          The Russians have only one serious intention - Neher to spoil the Russians into the soul!
        2. Akvadra
          Akvadra 14 July 2014 16: 36
          0
          Quote: Black Colonel
          Russian Frosts are those that come from Russia am am am

          Dill has long been frostbitten. Even before the Maidan. Brains are glass. Do not be treated. Amputation only.
      5. Coffee_time
        Coffee_time 14 July 2014 12: 31
        +3
        Quote: divangeneral
        they seem warmer in winter than ours

        Even warmer, but frosts will come anyway
      6. Sid.74
        Sid.74 14 July 2014 12: 31
        +4
        Quote: divangeneral
        they seem warmer in winter than ours

        Without gas and electricity? Something is happening here at the South Ukrainian NPP!

        The first power unit of the South Ukrainian NPP in the city of Yuzhnoukrainsk of the Nikolaev region is disconnected from the network due to a short circuit. Reasons are being clarified. The second unit is undergoing scheduled repairs. The third power unit is operating normally. The radiation background is at the level of natural background values, RIA Novosti notes.

        Original article: http://russian.rt.com/article/40672#ixzz37QhdrK5y
        1. a52333
          a52333 14 July 2014 12: 34
          +10
          “First. We need to prepare for the fact that it will be impossible to do this before winter. Now we need to throw efforts to prepare for the winter campaign "
          laughing laughing laughing laughing
          1. comprochikos
            comprochikos 14 July 2014 14: 23
            0
            Maybe something to jump on bully
      7. Black Colonel
        Black Colonel 14 July 2014 12: 32
        +4
        Russian Frosts are those that come from Russia am
      8. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 14 July 2014 12: 35
        +7
        Quote: divangeneral
        they seem warmer in winter than ours

        It is one thing at home sometimes to go outside and quite another in a field 24 hours outside.
        -15 you will remember for a lifetime hi
      9. armageddon
        armageddon 14 July 2014 12: 35
        +4
        Hmm ... Warmer is warmer ... But Winter is ALWAYS for Russia !!!
      10. I am proud of Russia
        I am proud of Russia 14 July 2014 12: 54
        0
        In the field without food, they will still freeze. But they will not freeze, so they will run home.
        1. Gool
          Gool 14 July 2014 13: 07
          +2
          The army has long been demoralized, kept on a bunch of fanatically Svidomo Natsik and foreign troops, staffed by ardent Bandera. Crumble these, the rest will scatter themselves.
      11. ispaniard
        ispaniard 14 July 2014 13: 16
        +6
        Mdaaaa ... An incomprehensible deputy of the illegitimate Rada of a non-existent country talks about how a spaceship ... Oops! Excuse me inspired, he talks about the fact that Europe should fight with Russia for "Zombified Uganda" in its own backyards? .. He put the article + just because he laughed. P.S. THE WINTER IS COMING...
        1. Vek
          Vek 14 July 2014 15: 32
          0
          Quote: ispaniard
          WINTER IS COMING...
          I like this movie too)
          But how to warm the Donbass? This is a question. I think svidomye take care of something to pick up from the quilted jackets and warm
          1. ispaniard
            ispaniard 14 July 2014 16: 31
            0
            Sergeant, before the winter a lot of things will change on the geopolitical map in particular ... Donbass will not remain without heat, but the rest of Ukraine ...
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      13. ℳy ℒiƒℯ
        ℳy ℒiƒℯ 14 July 2014 15: 39
        0
        Be that as it may, the winter is still far away. And a lot can happen during this time.
      14. SF93
        SF93 14 July 2014 22: 29
        0
        Without gas, it will be colder than ours.
    2. St Petrov
      St Petrov 14 July 2014 12: 22
      +5
      There is information that dill surpassed the Omerikans in the title: "Well, stupid!"
      1. portoc65
        portoc65 14 July 2014 12: 31
        -1
        Dill begins to see. What can happen to them ... I will not say this word
    3. Момент
      Момент 14 July 2014 12: 22
      +3
      "A simple dilemma: either the Europeans will support Ukraine, or they will face the third world war."
      Maybe the opposite is true., And admit the defeat of the ATO
      1. ermolai
        ermolai 14 July 2014 13: 02
        0
        and if they don’t support it, dill will still have a maidan, and there are tires for heating. and Europeans eat gas from them, and Toko dill can look at the pipe. and the IMF is likely to hold the loan, then there will be fun. now they’ve strained from the sowing season with harvesting, the Westerner hoped to get rich on the Donbass, and then they hunt down the juntas, and they even gutted the liver for Europe
    4. portoc65
      portoc65 14 July 2014 12: 22
      +1
      Yes, by the autumn the grandmothers will end in the ATO ... if the guys hold out until the autumn, a turning point will come .. The junta feels and understands this ... he is straining to break and crush ... break off ..
    5. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 14 July 2014 12: 23
      +5
      14.07.14/XNUMX/XNUMX Message from the militia

      There are conflicting reports about Lugansk Airport. Strelkov wrote that he had not yet been taken, news agencies say that our airport was fired from with heavy mortars, and militias and local residents reported that the airport was taken and ours were being cleaned. In general, a complete mess. We hope that in the afternoon the situation will become clearer and we will have accurate information on this issue.

      Here is the last message from RIA Novosti: “The militias surrounded the Luhansk airport, control over which was established by the Ukrainian military on Monday night ... Ukrainian troops are located about 10 km north of Luhansk, near the village of Metallist.
      The militias did not advance anywhere, repulsed the attacks, stood still, took up their positions. Ukrainian troops are now somewhere near Metalist. At night, a Ukrainian convoy was partially broken, which was moving towards the airport. "

      "Lugansk airport is still in the hands of the enemy. Moreover, a fresh armored group broke through there.
      I confirm the information about the defeat of the enemy supply column yesterday in the area between Marinovka and Kozhevnya (southeast of Snezhniy, near the border with Russia). Losses of the enemy are specified. The 1 tank, the 2 ZU-23-2 and two DRGs "worked" from us.
      The situation in the Luhansk region is completely unclear. Clearly only one thing - the advance of the ukrov continues, and so far it was not possible to stop it. "
      1. portoc65
        portoc65 14 July 2014 12: 28
        +1
        The situation is not critical. At the moment, the airport is being ironed by heavy militia mortars
        1. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith 14 July 2014 12: 30
          +1
          Here is a report on the situation around the airport
      2. Ascetic
        Ascetic 14 July 2014 12: 30
        +10
        Quote: Sith Lord
        There are conflicting reports about Lugansk Airport. Strelkov wrote that he had not yet been taken, news agencies say that our airport was fired from with heavy mortars, and militias and local residents reported that the airport was taken and ours were being cleaned. In general, a complete mess. We hope that in the afternoon the situation will become clearer and we will have accurate information on this issue.


        Add more porridge. Summary from KSPPN. The Ukrainian Armed Forces in order to release the airport decided to implement the following.

        1. To intensify actions in the Izvarino-Kavkaz-Ural region (creating noise)
        2. Armored groups of 70 and 40 vehicles to cut the militia forces and simultaneously hit one column in the suburbs of Lugansk Aleksandrovsk - Yubileynoye, the other to go to the village of Luxurious.
        3. By this moment, the forces holding the Lugansk airport should have also reached Luxurious (after two days of shelling with significant losses, the airport garrison reported about the impossibility of further holding the object).
        4. At the same time, the task was to delay some of the forces from the militia’s strike in the area of ​​the city of Happiness and from the active destruction of the junta troops in the southern boiler.

        But the following happened:
        1. The strength of the Ukrainian army in the Izvarino-Kavkaz-Ural region, lacking fresh forces and reserves, was bogged down in positional battles.
        2. Armored columns due to active strikes by the militia, incl. the air raid of the Su-25 militia could not enter positions simultaneously.
        3. As a result, a convoy of Ukrainian tanks in the Aleksandrovsk area floated under the gunfire of anti-tank artillery and MLRS and was forced to retreat to the area of ​​the settlement of Sabovka, squeezed by a militia armored group.
        4. The militia began a preemptive strike on the airfield, ahead of the Ukrainian army leaving these positions. The remaining forces from the Lugansk airport began to move towards Luxurious, but since the armored group had not yet approached, they were surrounded.
        5. The second armored group advanced to its destination near the village of Luxurious only 4 hours after the scheduled time and was met by artillery fire.

        It is not yet known:
        Did the militia take Happiness.
        Did the Ukrainian army manage to gain a foothold in Sabovka, or did they continue to stagnate (this is likely because there was evidence that local militia units from the villages of Beloye and Rodakovo, without sufficient anti-tank fighting, had moved to Alchevsk).
        How the battles in the Izvarino district ended.
        Did you manage to finish off the armored column and the remains of the airport garrison in the Luxurious district?

        We will wait for information.

        1. vrach
          vrach 14 July 2014 13: 04
          +2
          Dear Ascetic, I always read your comments with interest. I have only one question - on the attack of militias on the city of Happiness?
          It is clear that Ukrainians possessed information about this attack and almost simultaneously and even a little earlier made a breakthrough on the other flank. This is an all-in game on both sides. Exactly what the commotion did. Let's hope for the luck of the militias.
    6. sinukvl
      sinukvl 14 July 2014 12: 24
      +3
      And Dill with Mattresses will begin to sing the same song that Napoleon and Hitler sang
      Russian frost
    7. Matroskin 18
      Matroskin 18 14 July 2014 12: 24
      +2
      We must become a part and factor of domestic policy in Europe

      You already were to her, while gas transit is not about ... whether!
    8. Giant thought
      Giant thought 14 July 2014 12: 26
      +2
      Ukrainians also hope to fight with Russia, before the winter you can understand from the article, they want to start fighting with us, then you shouldn’t prepare for the winter campaign, everything will end much faster, and no Europe will be able to rescue these wretches.
      1. Geo
        Geo 14 July 2014 12: 58
        0
        It is clear from the article that they are not going to fight with us. And they want someone else to fight for them with us. Very quickly they ceased to be one people with us, ranked themselves as "part of the world community and Europe," and opposed Russia.
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    10. Vadivak
      Vadivak 14 July 2014 12: 26
      +5
      Quote: ...
      It must be admitted at last that we cannot fight alone against Europe alone, without Europe and the support of the world community, even in conditions of the rapid restoration of the combat effectiveness of our armed forces.


      How so? Geletey promised ukraine to hold the Victory Parade in Sevastopol. And I think they will. Under escort as Germans in Moscow at 44
      Quote: vorobey
      But in winter Russian frosts will come.

      They’ll jump, they’ll warm up
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 14 July 2014 12: 33
        +3
        Hi Vadim. drinks

        Quote: Vadivak
        Geletey promised ukraine to hold the Victory Parade in Sevastopol


        - Children, look what a delicious cake I brought to you! I see — I see that your saliva is flowing.
        - Grandfather Frost, and they always drool. . . This is an oligophrenic chamber!
    11. a52333
      a52333 14 July 2014 12: 31
      0
      “First. We need to prepare for the fact that it will be impossible to do this before winter. Now we need to throw efforts to prepare for the winter campaign "

      Enough to fight, it's time to harvest firewood! fellow
    12. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 14 July 2014 12: 33
      0
      The first one. It is necessary to prepare for the fact that this will be impossible before the winter. Now we need to give up efforts to prepare for the winter campaign "
      Someone from the German generals said this to Hitler. laughing
      Quote: vorobey
      But in winter Russian frosts will come.

      Sanya, the main thing is to have time for ukra wink
      Hi
      1. SS68SS
        SS68SS 14 July 2014 12: 41
        +2
        ..... or the Europeans will support Ukraine, or they will have a third world war ”....

        Blackmail of pure water
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      3. vorobey
        vorobey 14 July 2014 12: 47
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Sanya, the main thing is to have time for ukra


        The padded jacket will not help here ... only a rope with soap ...
    13. xenod55
      xenod55 14 July 2014 12: 35
      +1
      It seems that ALL deputies in Ukraine are obd.do.lob.bl.s.e. or bought by mattresses. Can you see the war with Russia? K.O.Z.L.Y. are stoned.
    14. gsg955
      gsg955 14 July 2014 12: 58
      0
      Kaplin added a DROP of poison ...
    15. STOP VOINE 2014
      STOP VOINE 2014 14 July 2014 13: 14
      0
      WHEN RUSSIAN FROST WILL BE APPROACHED, RUSSIAN GAS WILL GO TO MEET IT !!!
    16. Alekseev
      Alekseev 14 July 2014 13: 20
      +3
      Quote: vorobey
      here in winter Russian frosts will come.

      There is nothing to endure before the winter, the losses of punitive forces must be such that, at least, the active hostilities subside by the fall.
      And by winter, mass demonstrations of a hungry and cold population, dissatisfied with the draft in the army, for slaughter, i.e. revolution is the other way around. Yes
      The stupid deputy calls on Europe to start fighting with the Russian Federation, they say it doesn’t go rosy, it’s dangerous not to fight, while the role of cannon fodder by this very Europe and the USA was initially assigned to the Svidomo patriots of Ukraine and the adherents who joined them! Yes
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 14 July 2014 13: 45
        +1
        Quote: Alekseev
        There is nothing to endure before the winter, the losses of punitive forces must be such that, at least, the active hostilities subside by the fall.
        And by winter, mass demonstrations of a hungry and cold population, dissatisfied with the draft in the army, for slaughter, i.e. revolution the other way around


        So everything goes according to plan .... the population of the Maidan is decreasing ... spiders begin to eat each other, a hungry rebellion is ripening. if the rabbit is considering resignation ....
    17. Sterlya
      Sterlya 15 July 2014 01: 19
      0
      Media landing! laughing To Geyropu? Well, dill laughing
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  3. saag
    saag 14 July 2014 12: 21
    +4
    VO will have to organize the purchase of boots, autumn-winter uniforms, portable stoves, dry alcohol? :-)
  4. zao74
    zao74 14 July 2014 12: 21
    0
    Yes, the EU does not care about the ho.khly, they understand who the real aggressor is and who is "running the show."
  5. Scandinavian
    Scandinavian 14 July 2014 12: 22
    0
    Is it that he who calls the German Urlich to fight with Russia in this way? So he still remembers from his grandfather about the terrible Russians with a bear with a balalaika.
  6. Bator79
    Bator79 14 July 2014 12: 22
    +1
    banderlog will be hard to fight against Russia ????? laughing080808 forgot chtoli?
  7. roman72-452
    roman72-452 14 July 2014 12: 23
    0
    Yes, ukroanaliz simply. The most interesting thing is that Russia is not at war with them and is not going to fight yet, since they themselves will surrender by winter.
  8. gandalf
    gandalf 14 July 2014 12: 23
    0
    In winter ... with supplies from the company ukroPrapor? Soar up ...
  9. siberalt
    siberalt 14 July 2014 12: 25
    +3
    Not such a frail message from the deputy. - Either help, or we will untie you such a third world war that little will not seem to anyone. laughing
  10. Caa
    Caa 14 July 2014 12: 25
    +2
    Typical fascist. Who is fighting with you? Russia? Open your eyes, freak! Kill your own people. I am silent about the threat to Europe from Russia. This puppet Europe (mainly east + shaving) under the command of Vshivington constantly threatens Russia.
  11. ilya_oz
    ilya_oz 14 July 2014 12: 25
    0
    14.07.14/XNUMX/XNUMX. Clarification from Strelkov Igor Ivanovich.

    "Lugansk airport is still in the hands of the enemy. Moreover, a fresh armored group broke through there.
    I confirm the information about the defeat of the enemy supply column yesterday in the area between Marinovka and Kozhevnya (southeast of Snezhniy, near the border with Russia). Losses of the enemy are specified. The 1 tank, the 2 ZU-23-2 and two DRGs "worked" from us.
    The situation in the Luhansk region is completely unclear. Clearly only one thing - the advance of the ukrov continues, and so far it was not possible to stop it. "
  12. enot73
    enot73 14 July 2014 12: 26
    +1
    And in the winter something will change and it will be easy to defeat the militias? If something happens it’s not in favor of dill, which in the summer really can’t provide the army with food and equipment.
  13. Flinky
    Flinky 14 July 2014 12: 26
    +11
    I believe the US should be destroyed.
  14. HAM
    HAM 14 July 2014 12: 26
    0
    And who promised him help, in the disease, in Europe? Colds will come, and everyone will think only about his blanket.
    1. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 14 July 2014 12: 38
      0
      ... and gas in the kitchen.
  15. Alexey
    Alexey 14 July 2014 12: 26
    0
    ..yat! Understanding of the current moment is zero, except for the fact that they are unable to cope with SE. On the other hand, the overestimation of the importance of the country ... that is, not a tool for pulling India out of the crisis, but a reason for the 3.14rd world war. How! once again "horseradish, put on the opinion of others ensures a long and calm life" F. Ranevskaya
  16. Gorbtk
    Gorbtk 14 July 2014 12: 27
    0
    what can I say - some sort of maniacs ... to fight with Russia, yeah Europe really wants it now.
  17. Bombardier
    Bombardier 14 July 2014 12: 28
    +2
    Grass, in Ukraine, no longer supply. The client is losing consciousness from the pickpocketed American aid from Afghanistan.
  18. ArhipenkoAndrey
    ArhipenkoAndrey 14 July 2014 12: 28
    +2
    A directly obsessive idea, or you are helping (read for maintenance) Ukraine now or in the distant future you will be captured by terrible Russians led by Putin, how tired of this nonsense are the eternal beggars and parasites, instead of restoring their nenka from the tyranny of the oligarchs, again they put them on their own neck and instead of working, they started a war, and not so big pennies that they were dying in the fratricide, the superhuman Svidomo, but I want to see pennies as well and Europe does not give well, the text of the Baltic states and Ukrainians rushed about the terrible Russian Putin, but the main word in word.
  19. fridge
    fridge 14 July 2014 12: 28
    +14
    ALL !!! ALL !!! ALL !!! Says Lugansk !!! Summary for 8-30 in Moscow. The city survived! Twice during this night, the Lugansk militia successfully repelled the attempts of the National Guard to break into the city. The attacks were repulsed, the enemy was thrown back. And tonight, the Ukrainian army in its own skin experienced the full power of our Hurricane rocket launchers. I wish you all a good day and a clear sky above your head! good
    1. RU-Officer
      RU-Officer 14 July 2014 12: 41
      0
      Oh, the fridge! Exactly Lugansk speaks? If so - and you do not get sick! Soul missed the positive! In any case (true or not) - fighting spirit is extremely necessary.
  20. sever.56
    sever.56 14 July 2014 12: 30
    +5
    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/839/uvhu700.jpg
  21. Victor-M
    Victor-M 14 July 2014 12: 30
    +4
    It must be admitted at last that we cannot fight alone against Europe alone, without Europe and the support of the world community, even in conditions of the rapid restoration of the combat effectiveness of our armed forces.


    Eva, where he swung, now wants to fight with Russia, his people, which they can’t cope with, are not enough for him. It's time for the Kiev junta to think not about a winter military company, but about refugee status, the train to the west is already in pairs. wink laughing
  22. Iskander Khan
    Iskander Khan 14 July 2014 12: 30
    +4
    Pridarki. What winter company? The best armies of the 19th and 20th centuries - Napoleon and Hitler - broke off at winter companies. Where else should you prepare?
    One quote comes to you from "Love and Doves": "Run, Uncle Vitya!"
  23. Altona
    Altona 14 July 2014 12: 31
    +5
    The idea of ​​the People's Deputy Kaplin is that Ukraine does not pull the ATO alone and it would be necessary to project the ATO to Gibraltar ... Are some of the people in the Verkhovna Rada already chtoli brainwashed? Now Europe will give up everything and go to fight in order to "give the land in Ukraine to the Nazis" ...
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  25. Rigla
    Rigla 14 July 2014 12: 31
    0
    They must block the gas. We do not want to sell everything. Let drown than they want.
  26. Finches
    Finches 14 July 2014 12: 32
    +7
    Here they are, true traitors to the people of Ukraine! Sleek, young people who do not care deeply for the future of the Ukrainian people! They have everything in chocolate: children in London, accounts in Switzerland, Israeli citizenship! And the fact that they are deputies of the Rada or ministers of Ukraine is work on a contract between them and the State Department! Nothing personal is just a business!
    When will the people understand this ?? When to drive him to the new Auschwitz or Guantanomo-2, somewhere in the Chernobyl region?
    But this jerk, obviously after all comes from some sort of nomenclature of the top of Soviet Ukraine and all that he has, this daddy earned on the benefits of the Soviet Union!
    And now he is arguing that Russia is bad! Degenerates!
  27. collector
    collector 14 July 2014 12: 38
    +6
    I won’t understand something when Russia began to fight with Ukraine?
    1. igordok
      igordok 14 July 2014 13: 27
      +2
      - Monya, I don’t understand at all for our Ukraine ... Everyone insists on Mina, we are at war with Russia!
      - And sho?
      - So far the results of the Ukrainian-Russian war are disappointing. Losses of Ukraine: 7 tanks, 1 self-propelled howitzer, 10 armored vehicles, 1 helicopter and 1 aircraft. More than 2 million people have been captured. ..... And what do you think? .... The Russian army is still in the war
      not yet appeared! ..

      The loss data is outdated, and so it’s all true.

      At the forecourt market of Lviv, one patriotic grandfather almost with tears in his eyes complains to everyone around:
      - On television they constantly say that we do not have an army. If Putin attacks Ukraine, he will conquer it in three days. Holy Virgin, what to do?
      ; ((
      The colorful Ukrainian, who sells zucchini, gourds and other strategic goods, thoughtfully nibbles seeds and looks somewhere ... Then he looks his grandfather from head to toe:
      “And you, pan, don’t watch our television, then maybe you won’t attack ...”
  28. Evgesh91
    Evgesh91 14 July 2014 12: 40
    +2
    According to him, this can be achieved only with the help of a serious diplomatic and media landing in the EU, which would convey to every home "a simple dilemma: either the Europeans will support Ukraine, or they will face the third world war"-As usual, independent Ukraine without Europe is nowhere ...
  29. Dbnfkmtdbx
    Dbnfkmtdbx 14 July 2014 12: 42
    +4
    Ukrainians are not only dependent on gas for Russia, I can’t even imagine for a second who can replace Russia for Ukrainians, but maybe not in this galaxy fool
  30. Zmii
    Zmii 14 July 2014 12: 42
    +3
    How is it even sad, they themselves at least understand what they are saying and where they got into it? Degraded to the level of slaughter cattle and something else to think!
  31. KUOLEMA
    KUOLEMA 14 July 2014 12: 45
    +3
    And why do they constantly look at Europe? Europe constantly raked from us, and taking into account the development of pederasty in the modern EU, everything is fired and in bulk and we pile
  32. lawyer2010
    lawyer2010 14 July 2014 12: 46
    +2
    he is a sick man. in 10-15 years, maybe Ukraine as a state will not. but Russia and Europe will definitely live.
  33. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 14 July 2014 12: 47
    +3
    Rather, Ukrainians will drag Europe with its help into the third world, than vice versa.
    That's when the tanks will be missed, as well as shells, and the aircraft will fire a resource, and in a clean field under a frosty wind with one small weapon ... Then it will be seen who is who.
  34. frostof63
    frostof63 14 July 2014 12: 48
    +2
    If you do not stop Russia at the moment

    Well, again and again, Russia does not allow us to live peacefully in the world))) well, we’re just an evil empire))) maybe it’s time for it to become truly ??? maybe it's time ??? you can start with Ukraine)))
  35. parusnik
    parusnik 14 July 2014 12: 49
    0
    fight against Russia
    And that Russia declared war on Ukraine and when?
  36. Bassoon
    Bassoon 14 July 2014 12: 50
    +2
    In winter, General Frost will come.
  37. Iline
    Iline 14 July 2014 12: 50
    +2
    Judging by the conclusions of the deputy’s comrade, the apple is not far from the apple tree. Having taken the States as their ideological leaders, they try to play according to their rules in life. But the Americans have one principle - to rake the heat with the wrong hands. Does Europe need this?
  38. StepanovTDSM
    StepanovTDSM 14 July 2014 12: 51
    0
    Although warmer, one horseradish without gas chills. It is better to sweat seven times than once covered with hoarfrost.
  39. cat hippopotamus
    cat hippopotamus 14 July 2014 12: 52
    +1
    Why "X" you need that Europe. With their fascists and civil war. Themselves have brewed this porridge for you in a burnt state and disentangle it. This war will never end until you release Little Russia, plus New Russia will rise, then Ukraine as a state will cease to exist.
  40. Big den
    Big den 14 July 2014 12: 53
    0
    Homodril wants to receive money from hahaley for his maintenance. Such is political prostitution laughing
  41. kompotnenado
    kompotnenado 14 July 2014 12: 55
    +1
    Mama Mia! Dill guessed that it would be winter! And even there were no frosts. Unheard of.
  42. Weigher
    Weigher 14 July 2014 12: 56
    0
    Kaplin:
    "We must finally admit that to fight against Russia"
    Here is one more confirmation ahead of the Russian-Ukrainian (USA-EU) war, the deputy himself said bluntly!
  43. papa-billy
    papa-billy 14 July 2014 12: 58
    0
    Sensible people appeared in parliament
    1. Timoshka
      Timoshka 14 July 2014 13: 09
      0
      unlikely ... that they fluttered there.
      all sane - left her or they were driven out.
      and this one from the series is to cut the dough.
  44. rune
    rune 14 July 2014 13: 00
    0
    Quote: portoc65
    Yes, by the autumn the grandmothers will end in the ATO ... if the guys hold out until the autumn, a turning point will come .. The junta feels and understands this ... he is straining to break and crush ... break off ..

    Golden words!
  45. JonnyT
    JonnyT 14 July 2014 13: 01
    0
    This deputy is a clear optimist; they live there in a fairy-tale country .......
  46. Naval
    Naval 14 July 2014 13: 02
    +3
    We must become a part and factor of domestic policy in Europe
    In my opinion, they are already so sick of Europe that they themselves are not happy with such Europeans.
  47. Prussian
    Prussian 14 July 2014 13: 02
    0
    Indirectly, the position of the southern grouping of the ukrovoy can be judged by the message "Ukrainian security forces have regained conditional control over Dovzhansky, Chervonopartizansk and Izvarino in recent days, but the territories beyond them are still under the control of separatists, and Ukraine Russia, according to an intergovernmental agreement, must close these points on its part, in violation of its obligations, it does not do this and continues to pass while the Ukrainian points are controlled by pro-Russian separatists "
  48. D_E_A_L_E_R
    D_E_A_L_E_R 14 July 2014 13: 04
    0
    And what is there about the second tranche from the IMF? It seems that they should have been given to them already. I hope that they change their minds.
  49. Naval
    Naval 14 July 2014 13: 04
    +2
    We must become a part and factor of domestic policy in Europe
    In my opinion, they are already so sick of Europe that they are not happy with such Europeans.
  50. Rubmolot
    Rubmolot 14 July 2014 13: 06
    +1
    "... either the Europeans will support Ukraine, or they will face a third world war."

    Dear Ukrainians!

    Fuck you from your third world ...!
    negative
    Do you and your work-goers lack blood? Be patient; before winter, you will kill each other.