Igor Strelkov spoke about the desertion of Babai's militia

The Minister of Defense of the Donetsk People's Republic, Igor Strelkov, reported on the desertion of a group of Cossacks, including Alexander Mozhaev, known as Babai, reports "Russian Spring".

Strelkov noted that the Cossacks deserted from the ranks of the militia immediately after Kramatorsk was left.

“At first they refused to execute the order and go to Donetsk, and then suddenly everyone broke down at once and“ found ”already at the border itself. They gave the honor to further defend Novorossia to the local militiamen and those volunteer comrades who are guided by the notion of “military discipline,” so hated by modern Cossacks, the militia commander said.

However on page "Reports from Strelkov Igor Ivanovich" a "message from the Cossacks" was published, stating that "the Cossacks did not deserting, as some commanders mistakenly thought, there was a slight disagreement that has now been overcome."

In addition, it is noted that "the recruitment to the" First Cossack Regiment "was announced, which is being created" to protect the Donbass from the aggression of the people of Poroshenko ".

“We hope that Babai and Igor Ivanovich will find mutual understanding, and the past inconsistency of actions will not affect the further joint struggle against the forces of darkness,” note "Reports from Strelkov Igor Ivanovich".

Comments

[2224460]

Well, damn it, there was still not enough "srach" among themselves.

[ispaniard]

This is a war ... "Deza" and sometimes just a mismatch of actions are faithful companions of any war (((. secondly, Igor Ivanovich's honesty pleases, he does not cheat and don’t drink ... in contrast to Parasha-enko. Thirdly, Ponomarev's media of the Junta also managed to shoot and send him prisoner ... And he is out in Donetsk with a machine gun and an army patch New Russia at the post was found :) So once again I will voice the axiom -POWER IN TRUTH!

[Момент]

It is necessary to try to find common ground in the near future, as well as a clear loss. In New Russia, are there few enemies to deal with each other?

[Luzhichanin]

this is a disinformation from AI to mislead the enemy. I will never believe in the same with respect to Babai.

[WKS]

I remembered a quote from The Quiet Don. "Enough! Have fought! Let others fight now."

[bulvas]

Quote: ispaniard

This is a war ... "Deza" and sometimes just a lack of coordination ...

I agree. In addition, it is not for us to judge what is happening there.

Soloviev’s words were well said yesterday:
- Do you think that it is necessary to send troops to New Russia?
- Please, whoever really thinks so, has long been there, is fighting, and not reasoning, sitting on the sofa.

[g1v2]

It is not a matter of fear, but discipline. Discipline is the basis of any regular army and the key to successful databases. But modern Cossacks love Makhnovism, and they don’t like to follow orders. In general, a mess - I wanted to come, I wanted to go on vacation. Strelkov needs specialists and retired officers, and not just another Makhnovist gang. It’s a pity that the woman was so publicized and now the Ukrainians will laugh and shout that the separatist leaders are fleeing to Russia. I would not leave Cossack units together in Strelkov’s place, but scatter them over others in order to instill the concept of discipline.

[Homo]

Quote: g1v2

It is not a matter of fear, but discipline. Discipline is the basis of any regular army and the key to successful databases.

I didn't quite understand what the problem is. "Babay" and other Cossacks were not servicemen of Novorossiya, they did not take the oath. And volunteers and mercenaries are free people, they wanted to come, they wanted to leave. When they voluntarily came to fight, Novorossiya did not give them a lemon in bucks for what they came, and when they wanted to leave (if this is true of course), then immediately "traitors", "deserters", etc. Volunteers were not registered as slaves , their right to control their lives. If it goes on like this (once you come, you must die at the checkpoint), then there will be fewer people who want to help!

[Homo]

Again minus silently. Nothing to say or can not refute, do not pander into the discussion.

[g1v2]

I did not minus, but I will try to explain. Here you are the commander of the unit, defend some area and you have a war detachment of such Cossacks - volunteers. They fight, fight, and then once disappear, and where they were the enemies they already break through, and then it turns out that these volunteers went on vacation home, leaving their positions. You will also say that these are volunteers - they came, they left, or you put all the mats on them. Or you give an order to dig in and rely on its execution, and they hammer on it and when the shelling starts, they either die in the open or tear their claws, opening an area for the enemy to break through. Or you send them to occupy a settlement, and they hammer your plans for that go down the drain. In general, such detachments only if you let them in the rear of the enemy, they will certainly be defeated, but at least they will distract ukrov's attention.

[Yemelya]

Quote: Homo

I didn't quite understand what the problem is. "Babai" and other Cossacks were not servicemen of Novorossiya, they did not take the oath. And volunteers and mercenaries are free people, they wanted to come, they wanted to leave.

Even in a civilian, I declare to write in two weeks

[mamont5]

Quote: g1v2

It is not a matter of fear, but discipline. Discipline is the basis of any regular army and the key to successful databases. But modern Cossacks love Makhnovism, and they don’t like to follow orders.

Right. There were Strelkov’s thoughts on this matter, where he said that each Cossack was an excellent fighter in his own right, but would converge into a detachment, but with his chieftain and ... goodbye discipline.

[creep: b]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJtIEe_6Szc послушайте последние 30 минут примерно и все поймете. Бабай не трус и не предатель он не хочет чтобы его и дургих людей идейных использовали в подковерных играх да еще и такой ценой. (Лучше конечно послушать полностью)

[radio operator]

Quote: 2224460

Well, damn it, there was still not enough "srach" among themselves.

Let's hope this is just a misunderstanding.

[King]

Junta rumors who knows that why this was done only to the shooter and the bum. maybe a tactical move.

[Muadipus]

The saddest thing is that Ukrainians use this srach in the interests of their propaganda. Why raise the enemy's morale with your own hands? Like "We are Ukrainians so great and formidable that Babai escaped." On the other hand, Strelkov's press service should have been less verbose and not throwing firewood at Ukrosmi.

Threat. if this is again not a particularly cunning plan, as a result of which Babai will emerge in the Lviv region, crushing the substations.

[vikbur]

Babai collects help for the militia
Militia Alexander Mozhaev, known as the Cossack Babai, recorded a video message. And he said that he really went to Russia, but he was going to return to ...
http://www.pravda.ru/news/world/formerussr/ukraine/14-07-2014/1216116-babai-0/

[vallex8]

this is desa babai went for reinforcements.

[Matroskin 18]

Gentlemen, "in all honesty" ... I live in the Rostov region, but this "Cossacks" always annoyed me more than pleased me. There is always a lot of noise from them (they oppress them, deprive them of), but there is absolutely no benefit: they came to help the police - the abuse of power is widespread, in the 2000s they were on duty at night (anti-terror) - drunkenness, brawls, complaints from citizens about them ... history of the Cossacks - great people were, not like the present!

[BEGGAR]

- abuse of authority is widespread, in the 2000s they were on duty at night (anti-terror) - drinking, debauchery, complaints from citizens about them

In Astrakhan, the General Cossack appropriated a tranche from the state at the beginning of 2000, but it seems that they seized it not so long ago. If I am not mistaken, the Old Believers hid.

[Skif83]

That's it!
First "gnaw" the dill, then all the disassembly of honey.

[flSergius]

The fact that such a grated kalach walked so much under bullets and then stupidly collapsed will not believe even cut. Apparently some problems with unity of command, authority.

[222222]

2224460 (2) SU Today, 09:20 AM New
Well, damn it, there was still not enough "shit" among themselves. "

"Gapusya, I've been telling you for thirty-five years: don't hurry !!!"
("Wedding in a Robin")

[Max otto]

On 3mv there is news that Babai broke into Donetsk, such news ...
http://3mv.ru/publ/babaj_vyshel_iz_okruzhenija/1-1-0-28729

[saag]

Makhnovism, however, history teaches nothing to anyone, show-offs overshadow the mind

[Giant thought]

We hope that the misunderstanding will be overcome.

[avt]

Quote: Thought Giant

We hope that the misunderstanding will be overcome.

Between whom ??? Mozhaev what, the leader of the resistance ?? What the hell is this when a commander has to "overcome" a misunderstanding in combat conditions! ?? In this case, to overcome misunderstandings, there is always and everywhere a tribunal and counterintelligence bodies, and whether you are a volunteer or called up is the tenth thing.

[Same lech]

I can’t believe it until there is serious evidence of this.

[Bartolomiu]

Quote: The same Lech

I can’t believe it until there is serious evidence of this.

C'mon, what confirmation do you need? All of Russia is a confirmation. All that they do is dress up, thump, create the appearance of violent activity, but no use. I never had sympathy for them. A lasting childhood memory: a football match, a Cossack riding a horse is important to travel among the crowd, intimidates and presses tipsy ones without losing a horse, brandishes a whip. This is all his actions are limited.

[Walking]

The mummers are the name of most new Cossacks, such only work for the public, showing the very idea of ​​the Cossacks in a negative light. I would like to hope that this info about Babaya is erroneous.

[zzz]

I won’t be surprised if Babai soon reappears somewhere in the vast Donbass ... Babai is a night-time spirit in Slavic folklore, and the wind was sometimes called in ancient times ..

[Igor39]

Babai will not go to Russia, he is wanted ...

[meriem1]

Justify please !!!!! Otherwise, it is a provocation.

[jovanni]

“We hope that Babai and Igor Ivanovich will find mutual understanding, and the former lack of coordination of actions will not affect the further joint struggle against the forces of darkness”
We all hope, for any inconsistency is in the hands of the Nazis. Moreover, they are trying to sow it ...

[Coffee_time]

If only it were not true

[komrad.klim]

adidas ...
but...

[Good_Taxist]

It seems that ento another mess !!!

[Scandinavian]

Inconsistency is not in the hands of the militias, it has long been necessary to determine unity of command ... And then they will leave without permission ... Arrows have been decided by the Minister of Defense of the DPR ...

[Floock]

"Cubanoids" are proud birds, that's for sure. And Strelkov has discipline, it is contraindicated for the Cossacks, they are the salt of the earth)
But desertion is unlikely. Probably messed up ...

[sanek0207]

I don’t believe, Babay has gone through so much, and I don’t believe a "deserter"!

[mehanik27]

And what did he go through ??? What did he do besides posing for photos, dancing on the stage, and delirious nonsense that he sometimes carried in the videos ??? Although he participated in some kind of battle, at least he did something besides the talking room ?? militiamen Lynx and Motorola, so most of the videos about them are either in battle or after the battle. I don’t remember anything like that about Babai.

[a.hamster55]

Cossacks are also not iron, and even at the age of - just a little rest. But to return unequivocally, and that’s all that was down the drain.

[mehanik27]

And what happened ??? What exactly did Babai do that he was tired ???

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: mehanik27

What exactly did Babai do that he was tired ???

He’s been sitting since March and has been writing comments on the site, as you probably have.

[mehanik27]

Considering that I didn’t write comments here and even more so did not make myself a defender of the oppressed Russians, then your remark is groundless. So, on the topic, is there anything to say specifically, what did Babai do that he was tired ???

[bergberg]

Already one that he was there, and you are sitting here! That says it all !

[mehanik27]

What is said ??? Is it that he went somewhere and posed in front of the camera makes it better than you or me ??? I already gave the example above, if you would compare Motorola or Lynx to go anywhere else

[alone]

Quote: bergberg

Already one that he was there, and you are sitting here! That says it all !

Being there doesn’t mean anything yet. A forehead can be there, drowning out vodara, chatting nonsense, grinding nonsense, and then dumping back and telling tales of valor and fighting spirit.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: mehanik27

So all the same, there is something to be said on the topic specifically — what did Babai do all the same, that he was tired ???

He must have fought unlike me and you!

[mehanik27]

I just can’t say this ... you can say that about Strelkova, about Motorola, about Lynx ... and you can bring a dozen other callsigns to people who fought or are fighting, some living, some unfortunately dead. Grandma, I can only say with confidence that he danced on the stage, shaking his machine gun and at times flogged nonsense in the videos.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: mehanik27

I can’t say that.

And what allows you to say the opposite? Maybe next to him were the last time.

[mehanik27]

I was not next to him, but I did not make loud statements.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: mehanik27

but I did not make loud statements.

Now all your comments sound loud, but your words - give a video, prove, show. Not worth a penny
Anyone can crap a person, a lot of mind is not necessary.

[mehanik27]

Why did I crap someone ??? Give an example ??? If I am surprised that a certain Babai only makes loud statements, and there are no real actions, then this is called crap ??? For example, a certain Motorola also makes statements, but it’s visible and the result ... I wonder how much you protect Babaya so ???

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: mehanik27

Babai only makes loud statements, but there are no real actions,

Here on the Internet there are a lot of militias, many just stand with a machine gun and that’s all. There are no photos and videos anywhere that they shoot or defend, there’s not all. But nevertheless this does not give me the right to say that this or that person is just a PR man, that there is no video proof.

Quote: mehanik27

For example, a certain Motorola also makes statements, but the result is also visible.

Sparrow's answer is not enough?

Quote: mehanik27

..interesting, why are you protecting Babaya so ???

Because he’s there with a gun, and you’re here behind the clave.
And I won’t be surprised that one of our unfortunate bureaucrats decides to institute UD against him on the fact of conducting military operations in the territory of another state. Can it be you?
You knock out mail in comments.

[mehanik27]

There are a lot of photos of militias on the Internet. Only loud statements are made from them by a few, someone confirms them ... and someone dances on the stage
Apparently, I'm sitting here at the clave, that he is dancing there with a gun on the stage, there is no difference.

[Alexan]

It's hard to be a cook in Slavyansk. Whoever picked up a machine gun no longer deserves your mockery. The fact that Babay became a media person is not his merit, but a misfortune. We tried the "push-buttons" in social networks. He had to play along. Such bright personalities as Motorola, Lynx, Babay, Bes ... were an example and led to the ranks of the militia. And civilians can get tired from shelling, viewers from constant news tension ... a warrior cannot, has no right to get tired of blood, death?

[mehanik27]

The warrior has the right to be tired, he is also a man ... I don’t understand why Babai was tired of?

[SSR]

Quote: mehanik27

And what happened ??? What exactly did Babai do that he was tired ???

Where was it? And what exactly are you interested in? Yes, from constant relaxation he was tired. (And it does not matter to whom the appeal)

It does not seem to you that you are asking the wrong question and with such aplomb that people are running straight and stumbling to tell you who, what, when, with whom and how much. You would probably then first introduce yourself, say that you are a militia, call sign "Smersh", that in three months you have so many operations, so many raids, etc., and then your question / s would look quite appropriate. And so, pufff and that's it.

[mehanik27]

What puff ??? If you had requested such information, you would first have started with yourself, you’re our couch warrior. And I’m just wondering why everyone extols him so much and nobody can give examples of his real affairs. Well, tell me - well, what’s he did this other than posing? There are many militias, unfortunately some already deceased who didn’t draw, but simply did their job. What Babai did I don’t know, that's why I'm interested in it. I hope you can give me some examples then?

[vorobey]

Quote: mehanik27

. I hope you can give me at least some examples?

May I answer ... try to say so ...

I don’t know thoroughly what he did .... He boasts of his exploits and collects cut off ears either a maniac or reckless like a motorola .. And a motorola reckless .. (these are the ones who forge victory). But the fact that Babai became the personification of what the State Department calls Russian help is worth a lot ... By the way, there was information that he failed one of the planes ... but I can’t confirm ...

If you yourself were at least briefly in the war, then you should know what fatigue is, not even physical ... Chronic lack of sleep, nervous tension spills out into apathy and utter nonsense when the self-preservation instinct is dulled. And when a person breaks down he becomes everything and everything on the drum ...

I don’t want to judge a woman ... not because I don’t believe ... but because he is as mortal as we all are ... only he is visible and we are like mice from around the corner .. that’s the whole difference ....

Nitsche ... will get n **** and will become operational ... with me it was like this for example ...

[mehanik27]

Finally, at least one person answered calmly and deliberately. I completely agree with you that Babai became an impersonation ... while he was silent and did not meditate on the camera ... But the same Motoroll also meditates on the camera after the battle, but Babai only in a comfortable setting, having pulled his hat over his forehead. I didn’t see anything from him ... Well, what he said also matters, as a result, that nonsense that he carried only into the hands of the Kiev authorities and the zombie maidanutyh. Truly, this is a vivid example when it is better to be silent than to speak.
And I do not want to judge Babai, God is his judge. I want to draw attention to the fact that they began to sculpt an idol from him

[dilyanna]

I support your point of view, but I advise you not to get excited and wait ...
about the fact that the bogeyman poses, people need images ... but he reflected the image of the hero well, perhaps his role in this was ... we don’t know ...
so let's wait at least a few days before judging a person ...
agree with you that data constitute an objective opinion ... let's hope that such facts can provide the bogeyman ...
and about the "idol", the hero of the internet ... it's just an image ... but I was also confused by the "hazy video" when he advertised the bill.
DNI and LC - states and the like should be put on the official level !!! Or community organizations provide their bills and facilities so that volunteers can help. In such matters everything should be transparent, especially if it is humanitarian aid. And those who provide assistance of a different nature, of course, should not be advertised and take money from the population, but from interested people.
therefore let him be a "hero idol"if there is a need for this to the strata of society, if he likes it. Anyway, he had already signed his own death. from Ukrainians. authorities, Bendera and other evil spirits ... and judging by their movements are very vengeful people.

[mehanik27]

That’s all right what you say, it’s just that gradually this idol began to say something that should not be said at all. You yourself gave an example with a score. And such idols, in my opinion, will do more harm than good.

[atalef]

Quote: vorobey

But the fact that Babai became the personification of what the State Department calls Russian help is worth a lot ... By the way, there was information that he failed one of the planes ... but I can’t confirm

So he caught a black man
He himself heard how he boasted, but he did not show anyone this Negro.
And as your option, maybe he escaped with this black man? Alternatively, until an official denial has been received, we cannot reject the same.
In life, different things happen.

Quote: mehanik27

in the end, that nonsense that he carried was only in the hands of the Kiev authorities and the zombie maydanuty

Yes, Babay was better to chew than talk. He did not cause anything but a feeling of complete inadequacy.
In general, do not rush to call such people (as I met in one comment - RUSSIAN EARTH SALT) - take your time. What would then not blush.
By the way, about the same Motorola. Generally inappropriate behavior people can pretty much disappoint.

Quote: dilyanna

people need images ... and he reflected the image of the hero well

He PR well. Do not mix the hero and the PR man. Babai did not accomplish anything outstanding. Colorful appearance and delirium in the camera
Such as it smells like fried - first and molt.

Quote: Alexan

He was next to Strelkov, and there "they didn't play the fool."

Believe me, next to any person there are crooks - fooling around. So for the sake of the question - Medvedev next to whom? But apart from the expression - What are you doing there, I don’t want to say anything to him.

[Alexan]

Monsieur, for one word of yours, in the old days, they called you to a duel. Now it would be enough to fill your face! Just a war for insults! He was next to Strelkov, and there "they didn't play the fool." Do you have information about Lynx, Motorola? There are only dozens of commanders, and thousands of soldiers! Do you need a list of their front lines? What are you digging for? This is war, sir! And only his commander can judge Babai's deeds! You no longer deserve a handshake!

[mehanik27]

Oh my God, there were also duelists here .... I don’t know where he was there, I don’t know and you don’t know who was there and my question about Babai was shrugging their shoulders, they also saw him only in the internet. I don’t need him nobody’s lists about exits. I’m just judging by the fact that a certain Babai constantly posed and carried nonsense in the videos. And some Lynx and Motorola shoot how they are fighting and how they return from exits.

[Alexan]

The lynx did not shoot anything and there is still no reliable news whether he is alive. There was a video where the pop funeral service of Alexander's militia, nicknamed Lynx. There were denials, but no more ...

[mehanik27]

Militiaman Alexander Garkusha died with the call sign Lynx. Alexander Garkusha was Pushilin’s guard and died when the car was blown up. I spoke about another militia from Slavyansk. It is worth noting that one that the other militia with the call sign Lynx spoke in videos at their checkpoints while carrying service. Slavic militia Lynx is widely known for the video where the wounded ukroletun passed to doctors.

[alone]

Quote: mehanik27

And what happened ??? What exactly did Babai do that he was tired ???

From the constant use of strong drinks (No other way that the nonsense that flew out of his mouth, it is impossible to explain anything else), the liver needed a breaker.

[alone]

Quote: a.hamster55

Cossacks are also not iron, and even aged

He is not even 40. Do you think this is age?

Babai was a simple PR man. He remembered how he had caught a PMC black man, said that he would send his head to Obama. He generally said a lot. But how he fought. .A Negro never pokazal.Ved it could be strong evidence.

P.S. there were of course photographs with weapons, etc. but this is not a fact. Anyone can take a machine gun, put on camouflage and pose in front of the camera.

[RUSS]

Quote: a.hamster55

Cossacks are also not iron, and even at the age of - just a little rest.

I don’t care even forty years .....

[vorobey]

Damn, bravo ..... however, no matter who he is tama, but we are tut ...

I like it ... they themselves created an idol themselves debunked ....

Read the gentlemen of St.Exx Citadel ...

There he gives a vivid example .... An equal can kill an equal but not humiliate ...

For there was one princess who was expelled from the palace and she humiliated worked as a washerwoman and all her companions laughed and mocked her ... but she did not lose her title and when she ascended the throne - all who mocked and humiliated bowed their heads in awe ... .

[Zomanus]

Well, in general, not surprised. The freemen of the first months is completed, now there is a rigid structure and submission to orders. But this does not suit everyone. Let's see how it goes.

[Borz]

Without one-man command, any army turns into a crowd of armed people. It is strange that such experienced fighters as Babay do not fully realize this. This is the Army of Novorossiya, not a "Cossack freeman." There is a commander, there are commanders subordinate to him, which is not so, gentlemen Cossacks?

[komrad.klim]

It is as if to benefit ...
But posturing and show-offs I never liked ...

[skeptic]

It is no coincidence that pride belongs to one of the deadly sins, especially in combat conditions. Babai, a high-handed man, could not accept the retreat, and so he rushed ... Now he has cooled, talked with his own people and draws conclusions.

[sanek0207]

Babai is not the man who is wandering, just someone did not understand someone!

[A1L9E4K9S]

I do not believe that the Cossacks deserted, maybe the duck was launched in order to defame the most famous militia fighters, we are waiting for the continuation.

[atalef]

Quote: A1L9E4K9S

I do not believe that the Cossacks deserted

Why? Yes, now 80% of Cossacks are mummies, nothing but tsatska to cling to themselves and shout ANYWHERE - they do not know how.
There was an opportunity to grab something for free - rushed off, faded smell fried
Cossacks - there are all Cossacks in Kushchevka, while everyone was silent and were afraid to stick their nose out. while the hats of their daughters had.

“Rumors, of course, went that some guys were being too free and even dissolute. But we didn’t receive more than one application from the victims! sixty years old, and they are young, that's why we almost didn't intersect, "Vitaly Drizhika, the chieftain of the Kushchevsky district Cossack society, said in an interview with Komsomolskaya Pravda.

"But even if we decided to rein in the villains - how to do this? With a whip? She is only part of the Cossack's clothes, we have no right to use force. The Cossack in the Kuban is still not protected!" - said V. Drizhika.

Of course, this is not Pusek to drive with a whip, then the answer could fly

[atalef]

Quote: A1L9E4K9S

I do not believe that the Cossacks deserted

Why? Yes, now 80% of Cossacks are mummies, nothing but tsatska to cling to themselves and shout ANYWHERE - they do not know how.
There was an opportunity to grab something for free - rushed off, faded smell fried
Cossacks - there are all Cossacks in Kushchevka, while everyone was silent and were afraid to stick their nose out. while the hats of their daughters had.

“Rumors, of course, went that some guys were being too free and even dissolute. But we didn’t receive more than one application from the victims! sixty years old, and they are young, that's why we almost didn't intersect, "Vitaly Drizhika, the chieftain of the Kushchevsky district Cossack society, said in an interview with Komsomolskaya Pravda.

"But even if we decided to rein in the villains - how to do this? With a whip? She is only part of the Cossack's clothes, we have no right to use force. The Cossack in the Kuban is still not protected!" - said V. Drizhika.

Of course, this is not Pusek to drive with a whip, then the answer could fly

[ed65b]

Let's wait and see. there are so many throws on their sides now. Only half the dozen sites and aks are already from a half dozen from the side of Dill. We will wait for confirmation.

[mehanik27]

Strelkov has only one site and one account on the forum of reenactors .. What they refer to in this post has nothing to do with Strelkov

[Commissar of the NKVD]

As soon as the message about Babai's desertion arrived, at the "Russian Spring", as if on cue, the tamed trolls were activated as one. As if they were waiting for this. Considering the fact that the site is often hacked and thrown in bullshit, it is not known how to relate to this information. So let's see how it goes there. I have a low opinion of the Cossacks, it is possible that Ig. Yves. right. But if it turns out to be the opposite, then I will change this opinion for the better.

[Finches]

I have never been serious about modern Cossacks! Dressed, healthy foreheads walk with a vague idea of ​​the Cossacks and do nothing sensible, for the most part!
And if it’s not a duck, then it’s unpleasant, but there is nothing surprising!
But I personally think, and I want to believe that this is a military trick! They say that there is discord in our ranks, relax dear Nazis, we ask you to bring Babay and his group to an illegal position in a certain RDG to commit partisan raids!

[vomag]

Or maybe it’s a desa that would confuse dill, they say they’re running there is no one there and then bam and again the column is broken .... and again all the dill is in shock ...

[Appius]

One-man management above all, especially during hostilities. Orders should be clear to everyone. What are the misunderstandings?

[vjatsergey]

I think everything will work out, now the discipline needs iron, the enemy is tens of times greater in number, and the militia with unity and faith in victory should overpower the enemy.

[a.hamster55]

From time immemorial, Cossacks have been imprisoned for quick maneuvering actions, and they should not be buried in trenches without figs — or there’s no one else. It would probably be more familiar to the miners.

[mehanik27]

What is Babai imprisoned for ???? And what sort of Cossacks are imprisoned for quick maneuvering actions ??? Those that were in the Russian Imperial Army ?? Or their descendants during the Great Patriotic War ??? These yes, were clearly imprisoned. But under which the mummies are punks with beards sharpened do not tell me ???

[Hleb]

imprisoned, not imprisoned ... must fight in any conditions.
it's just that this Babay is "uncontrollable", it was clear from the first videos with him.
for me, so he generally said too much in an interview ...

[mehanik27]

Wow, there was more harm than good in the videos from him. It would be better for him to pose and keep silence meaningfully

[Roman070280]

it's just that Babai is "uncontrollable"

It seems to me that they are all Babai ..))

[atalef]

Quote: Gleb

imprisoned, not imprisoned ... must fight in any conditions

What do you think, has grown a beard, has eaten a belly, has put on a hat, has declared himself a Cossack --- everything - a ninja of the Crimean spill - should fight in other conditions
No wonder one of the commandments says - do not make yourself an idol --- do not have to be disappointed.

[kashtak]

Cossacks happened to sit in trenches and defend cities

[Wheel]

Quote: kashtak

Cossacks happened to sit in trenches and defend cities

Add, and to disperse the demonstrations and conduct punitive operations ...
They did not like the Cossacks among the people, apparently, there was a reason ...

[Neighbor]

Which of us did not quarrel with close people ... Unfortunately, perhaps with them just more often than with the rest. And besides, this is not a regular (for now) army, where you’re the boss.

[mehanik27]

Who can tell me what Babai did in general, except that he posed with a gun and in a hat for a photo, danced on the stage and raved a bit in the videos ???? What kind of battle did he have, what did he destroy ??? Motorola, there’s a video about them both in battle and after leaving the battle. And I don’t remember something like that with Babai. And you want to remind Strelkov that he does not have an account in VKontakte and does not write there. And here they cite information from the page of a certain group in Vkontakte, which actually reprints Strelkov’s words from Ikorpus. So it cannot be the primary source, since nothing prevents this group from driving the gag.

[bergberg]

Go to the checkpoints in Danetsk or Lugansk and ask the militias for yourself. There will be accurate information for you.

[mehanik27]

And he asked .. no one knows anything about his case

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: mehanik27

And he asked .. no one knows anything about his case

And long ago come back? Or there and now we are sitting, like some virtually.

[mehanik27]

I asked those who are there or were in the 21st century, such communication is not a problem.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: mehanik27

Who can tell me what Babai did in general, except that he posed with a gun and in a hat for a photo, danced on stage and raved a bit in the videos ??

There is this type of people who are ready to trample anyone in the mud.
WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT WHAT BABY DID? -You don’t know anything, but you’ll water shit and the most surprising thing will be those who admired Babay yesterday. They are hypocrites who change their minds depending on the article.
Is your surname accidentally not Kurginyan?
Clip for you

[mehanik27]

I didn’t trample on anyone and didn’t water with shit. I just asked about Babai what he did except posing and dancing. I never admired him. And I didn’t change my opinion. Also, Kurginyan was always disgusting and uninteresting. You would be better would give examples of Babai’s actions, but didn’t do demagogy here. If you have nothing to say about him, we’ll close the topic. For me personally, he’s a pose. I’m surprised that they made a militia icon out of him, and therefore asked what he became famous for. no one can give a clear answer.

[51064]

lenta.ru
Alexander Mozhaev, known as Babai, whom Igor Strelkov accused of desertion, the Minister of Defense of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR), announced the recruitment of volunteers to the Cossack regiment to participate in the war in eastern Ukraine.
A video of the appeal with the participation of Mozhaev and the commander of the “Wolf Hundred” Cossacks was posted on Sunday, July 13, on YouTube. The commentary on the video posted in the Babaya group on Vkontakte states that the Cossacks did not desert from Kramatorsk.

[BEGGAR]

I do not belong to believers, please explain whether it is customary to wear a cross on top of clothes? (Except for priests) It’s just that women seem to only wear jewelry. AND NEW RUSSIAN course.

[curl]

the time for irregular military alliances has passed, only the regular army will be able to grind the Kiev troops and the National Guard

[smershxnumx]

Urgent manufacturers of toilet paper from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs protest notes.

[azbukin77]

Let’s be and it IS NECESSARY to consider this a small misunderstanding! Otherwise, it is impossible not to clarify the relationship now!

[fingolfin]

First of all, if the militias really want to defend their re-republics, they need to get together and choose the commander-in-chief, to whom everyone will obey in wartime. But disagreements and disobedience in the face of hostilities will not lead to anything good. Remember the history of the ancient world-the uprising of Spartacus.

[Central]

Quote: Finches

I have never been serious about modern Cossacks! Dressed, healthy foreheads walk with a vague idea of ​​the Cossacks and do nothing sensible, for the most part!
And if it’s not a duck, then it’s unpleasant, but there is nothing surprising!

Mutually.
These are the same Cossacks, like me a ballerina. Oshmetye and thugs, they are of no use to Strelkov and his group, because Strelkov has at least some discipline, a scanty amount of drunkenness, etc., and what these so-called. "Cossacks" after drinking all the vodka in the area? It's easy to imagine - robbery, extortion, rape.
All this plays into the hands of the official Kiev authorities and troops and will end with the defeat of Strelkov. But defeat defeat strife, when all the "exploits" of warriors like Mamai are revealed, all this will be compromised and end with mental hatred of the inhabitants of eastern Ukraine towards Russia and their faster cultural assimilation with the Central and Western parts. Russia will lose its foothold in Ukraine.

[a.hamster55]

Mechanic You are our iron! You have ever supervised HP - you are strictly forbidden to work with people. And about the "mummers" - you can get an answer. Have you looked in the mirror for a long time?

[mehanik27]

Imagine working, so I never trust people what they just say and there is no evidence of their real actions ... And when they still talk nonsense, it is even more alarming. I looked in the mirror quite recently))) I’m still quite young and fit ..And that you are so hurt by the mention of mummified pussies ???

[Tanechka-clever]

"..First they refused to carry out the order .." - in any case, such actions can ruin any operation and lead to unjustified loss of life. To show off and engage in self-promotion, I think, is not worthy of serious and self-sufficient.
But such a situation only showed how hard the process of the formation of New Russia is going on.
The will in the army is destructive, and orders are binding. Character is for strong men, and advertising and PR for lovers.

[creep: b]

Offensive order to abandon Slavyansk for a showdown in Donetsk with Khodakovsky

[Aslan]

And who is Babai for Strelkova?!? I am sometimes surprised at such publications, for him Babai that there was something going, and even better that there wasn’t at all, there would be no reason for UKRCB once again rejoice. I personally never liked Babai, with a knife to pose and give interviews from afar reminiscent of stoned nonsense, this is not good.
Strelkov even before this case said that there was no discipline among the Cossacks.

[jekasimf]

People. Do not engage in garbage. All reports from Strelkova read on his official page: http://vk.com/strelkov_info

13.07.14. Message from the Cossacks.

"Babay after Slavyansk was in Lugansk. To his right is his friend - a retired officer submariner Oleg from Lugansk. We announced a recruitment to the" First Cossack Regiment ", created to protect Donbass from the aggression of Poroshenko's people. The Cossacks did not defect, as some commanders mistakenly believed , there was a slight inconsistency that has been overcome for now. "

PS We hope that Babai and Igor Ivanovich will find mutual understanding, and the former lack of coordination of actions will not affect the further joint struggle against the forces of darkness.

[mehanik27]

Strelkova has no pages in contact, all these fake pages act simply on his behalf by retyping the information from Ikorpus, where the reports are laid out.

[Cpa]

Platov, too, Kutuzov did not obey, the rank was not given for the rank.

[siberalt]

I don't understand why the indignation about the action of the "Babaevites"? They themselves did not "stir up" anything in Ukraine. They came as volunteers from another state to defend peaceful Donetsk people drinking beer and working for their owners in the mines. And Strelkov is not quite Ukrainian either. Why the hell should they obey him? Or did they join the army of New Russia and took the oath? Already for what they have done them great respect. Well, took a vacation, so what? They will communicate with their families, relatives and friends, have a rest, gain strength, replenish with volunteers, and if they want - again into battle. As for the Makhnovshchina, they are not from Ukraine. Here the principle is volunteer, not mercenary.

[BEGGAR]

. Well, they took a vacation, so what?

Nothing, as it was just in time. It reminds Russian football players — they drove the championship and, with a clear conscience, flew with their klushy to warmer climes.

[red rocket]

Babai will return and show the junta !!!

[shaman-25rus]

yeah. deserted. well, well ... well, I’ll tell you my opinion. they didn’t desert, but retreated to regroup.

[alone]

Quote: shaman-25rus

yeah. deserted. well, well ... well, I’ll tell you my opinion. they didn’t desert, but retreated to regroup.

We didn’t retreat, but entered the operational space

[D_E_A_L_E_R]

What I do not understand if the military leadership does not know where you would step back and why, it's more like dezertirstvo.Krome to "hang a nigger" and dancing with a gun is really more of that does not hear or see, oh yes even if he has no condensed milk it is quite melancholy-sadness. Maybe someone will throw off the link about his military services.

[sogdianec]

The historical analogue is the complex relationship between the Denikin Volunteer Army and the Don Cossacks.

Voluntary recruitment to the army does not abolish military discipline.

[Lelek]

The most disastrous thing for New Russia that can happen is a squabble between unit commanders. A single command of the DPR army, competent planning of operations, strict discipline from top to bottom and uninterrupted provision of everything necessary is the key to success. It is difficult to achieve this with yesterday's hard workers, but it is vital. This is the main task of Strelkov and his commanders as experienced military personnel.

[Mountain shooter]

Army discipline is the foundation of the basics. No discipline - no army.
Cossack units were completely disciplined during the Second World War, although they always tried to emphasize their exclusivity. But in the conditions of New Russia, failure to fulfill the order may lead to the death of the entire defense system. I hope that the incident is over.

[D_E_A_L_E_R]

Quote: sogdianec

Voluntary recruitment to the army does not abolish military discipline.

Here I am, too, it's one thing to return, but will your comrades trust you after such a "regrouping". Will they be sure that you stand with them shoulder to shoulder, and not "regroup" for help in difficult times?

[series]

Desa smells, because only a couple of days ago Strelkov himself in the reports mentioned Lynx and Babai, that they didn’t leave with the whole group, but came a few days later, and did not mention any desertion ...

[MAGGNUM]

Babai Russian mercenary that wants something and does, right now you will be minus here, but my opinion is. If he fought and decided to leave, let him leave, he fulfilled his mission and, unlike most of us, he carried out it not sitting on the couch, but in real battles. And in general I see no reason to take out a quarrel from the hut. This is either some kind of PR move or just stupid!

[Saxalin]

It was well said:
- Do you think that it is necessary to send troops to New Russia?
- Please, whoever really thinks so, has long been there, is fighting, and not reasoning, sitting on the sofa.

[dojjdik]

well desa and on this site is enough; there’s just a tactic of the militias, for example, why they won’t knock out Ukrainians from the airport; still closed 5000 army of Ukrainians in a southerly direction, if not desa then well done! but how will they disarm it if supposedly the nmh lacks the strength to occupy the same airport? What is this disa or tactics? and then, for the primitive, so surround the Donetsk commanders, then they have American advisers; desa or advisers are as stupid as the Ukrainian command?

[Rock2]

Что делить-то? Враг один. И только сообща его можно одолеть! В ЕДИНЕНИИ наша сила!

[kelevra]

Пора бы договориться уже,некогда ссориться!

[Just]

Кургинян поди сочинил эту историю.

[Vovan - prison]

Да не, ненадо базаров лишних... Стрелок знает что и когда сказать! Он просто так гнать пургу не станет. Это ход хитрый у него такой. Братва про меж собой судила рядила и все сказали как один без всяких западло что Стрелок ходит по чесноку но очень хитро!!! Молодца парняга! С петухами надо делать обманные манёвры! А то они падлы на уши всем вон как приседают а мы что же против их не можем что ли хитрость применить!?

[Bassoon]

По последним данным Бабай сейчас в Крыму, где собирает подкрепление. Информацию взята в одной из антимайдановских групп.

[Bassoon]

А вообще эта ситуация с якобы дезертирством может быть обманным маневром.

[max_mara]

У меня на работе майданы злорадствуют по поводу "дезертирства" Бабая. Пойду обломаю их.

[Kernokol19]

Авторитет Стрелкова как главкома- еще не все признали очевидное, как признают так и разногласиям конец, так и Хероям Срала песец придет.

[alex007983]

Есть видео где казаки объявили набор в казачий полк,там был и Бабай. Назвали номер телефона по которому можно записаться в добровольцы.
А про дезертирство полная лажа, не верьте вбросам вражеским.

[prishelec]

Я вот не понимаю, этот Бабай кто какой то особенный чтоли, там и другие ополченцы воюют из России русские и другие-выполняют приказы умирают в боях и дисциплину не нарушают, а с этим холопом одни проблемы, если не хочет воевать или устал пусть идет домой, зачем им там лишние проблемы!

[Playerman]

Исторически, казаки не были гавном никогда. Смелость до безрассудства

[creep: b]

Quote: creep out: b

Offensive order to abandon Slavyansk for a showdown in Donetsk with Khodakovsky

Преступный. прошу прощения

[Tor hummer]

Ополченцы ДНР обещают, что вскоре к ним "с подмогой" вернется Бабай


ДОНЕЦК, 14 июл — РИА Новости. Донецкий ополченец Александр Можаев, известный как "Бабай", скоро вернется к своим товарищам с подмогой, сообщают представители самопровозглашенной ДНР в своем микроблоге в Twitter.

РИА Новости http://ria.ru/world/20140714/1015903883.html#ixzz37Sb2isZj

[mehanik27]

Ну так а чего не вернуться бы???Вроде бы все нормализовалось,можно опять в относительной безопасности ролики про себя поснимать,про негров им заловленных порассказывать.А чуть что,начнут украинцы наступать,так можно опять быстро в Крым,за новым полком поехать

[dimbass]

сидя креститься нельзя

[sogdianec]

Quote: PlayerMan

Исторически, казаки не были гавном никогда. Смелость до безрассудства

Эх как бы ваши слова да Богу в уши.
Всяко было в истории казачества и благородного и постыдного. И самопожертвования и предательства. Сейчас лепят мифы про великих казаков, по примеру укров. Не стоит подаваться этому , читайте исторические труды разных ученых , а не пропагандистские листовки и лубочные картинки.