Under the snow destroyed the column of armored vehicles of the Ukrainian security forces

On July 13, the militia of the Donetsk People’s Republic surrounded and destroyed a convoy of Ukrainian security officials near the town of Snezhnoye. From the environment could get only three cars.

About this correspondent LifeNews told the commandant of Snow Eugene Gorbik. According to him, 30 units of armored vehicles and trucks were sent to Alekseyevka, but in the area of ​​Marinovka, the barrage artillery of the militia bombarded the vehicles.

Additionally, "Vesti" reported that three soldiers of the Slavic battalion militia were killed in the Stepanovka area. Their car came under fire from machine guns. Among the dead was one of the closest Igor Strelkov - commander of the assault battalion, known as “Vasilich”.

Armed clashes continue in the area of ​​Saur-Grave, Thorez and Marinovka, notes INTERFAX.RU.

RIA "News" reports that the DPR militia captured four wounded Ukrainian soldiers deserting from the Donetsk airport. According to the commander of the militia, Igor Strelkov, after the last shelling of the airport, about 300 servicemen fled from there. Currently there are 500-600 national guardsmen and military.

“Over the past day, according to our intelligence, another 50-70 man escaped from there, four of them were taken prisoner by the militia,” said Strelkov.

On July 13, the DPR authorities stated that in the vicinity of the village of Mayskoye in the Dnipropetrovsk region, flight tests of four American helicopters were being conducted.

“The US is actively supplying the junta with weapons. In particular, in the village of Mayskoye (Dnepropetrovsk region), flight tests of the Apache 4 helicopter are being conducted, the DNR tweet says.

It also became known that a civilian was killed during the air raid of the Ukrainian security forces on Gorlovka.

“The rocket was fired at the Golmovsky village, a passer-by was killed - a middle-aged man,” said Igor Bezler, adding that two Su-25 attack aircraft were hit by anti-aircraft machine guns.

Comments

[Vladimirets]

"4 Apache helicopters are undergoing flight tests"

I understand that the pilots will not be dill?

[alex-s]

Well, then there will be star-striped coffins!

[Момент]

So soon the militia will have new flying weapons. Dry is already in battle.

[podpolkovnik]

Quote: Moment

Drying is already in battle.

Give me the link, please.
What is already in battle, not captured.
Or do not make such statements!

[podpolkovnik]

Sorry, I found it myself

http://topwar.ru/54169-svodki-ot-strelkova-igorya-ivanovicha-13-14-iyulya-2014-g
oda.html

Reports from Strelkov Igor Ivanovich 13-14 July 2014 of the year
Yesterday at 14: 17

Message from the militia

"Well then! With the initiative of the Lugansk Air Force! The first blow of the Lugansk drying in the area of ​​Aleksandrovka! The flight is normal. The results of the air raid are being specified, according to preliminary data, our pilot worked filigree."

[fzr1000]

"Our aircraft Su 25 debuted its departure recorded 6 tanks and 1 punitive BTRs.
"According to the specified data, about 300 dill surrendered near Saur-Mogila. There is every reason to believe this information, considering how many personnel and equipment were sent there by the militia to suppress the Ukrop boilers."

Although for me, the number of targets hit the scale.

[mamont5]

Quote: fzr1000

Although for me, the number of targets hit the scale.

Well, the Ukrainians have not yet gotten used to attacks from the air, have not hidden, have not disguised themselves. Maybe.

[g1v2]

For one flight, something is a bit much. Who flew 25, explain this may be an exaggeration. But even the fact that aviation at the militia successfully worked out and returned, suggests that there is no miner sitting in the cockpit.

[meriem1]

Read the media !!! Destroyed several units of armored vehicles.

[Jackyun]

Quote: podpolkovnik

Give me the link, please.

Which one do you need? This one will do
http://vk.com/strelkov_info Сообщение от 13.07.14. 23:32

[divangeneral]

here is the link http://narodedin.com/post/Opolchency--Zahvachennyj-shturmovik-Su-25-nanes-udar-p
o-ukrainskim-vojskam /

[Alekseev]

Quote: podpolkovnik

Give me the link, please.

Yes, without a "stsylka" is impossible! "Stsylka" is our everything, the ultimate truth?
It is quite obvious that no "stsylki" can now give an exhaustive reliable picture of the tragic, rapidly changing events taking place now in Donbass.
A competent experienced person can still make the right conclusion, himself search and analyze various "stsylki" based on the analysis of the results, comparing the facts with what has already been in history. And the veracity of various "stsylok" is questionable.

[azbukin77]

It’s better to turn them into scrap metal, there are more benefits! And so with spare parts we are suffering.

[DOMINO100]

Armament - 30-mm M230 Chain Gun, 16 anti-tank missiles AGM-114 or 4 units with the 19th 70-mm NAR Hydra 70

a serious thing! I don’t think that they can be brought down so easily, considering that this toy can be fired from a distance beyond the reach of the militia’s air defense weapons. And those 16 anti-tank missiles are a dangerous thing!

[divangeneral]

can send Lugansk drying to the airfield where the Apaches are flying in and solve the problem of them with a missile and bomb strike?

[SHAKESPEARE]

But those states are at risk if their pilot gets captured. And the Apaches also get lost.

[Grenader]

Quote: SHEKSPIR

But those states are at risk if their pilot gets captured. And the Apaches also get lost.

"Apache" is armed with anti-tank missiles "helfire", the latest modifications of which reach the target from 18 km, so it will be problematic to shoot them down, they may not enter the militia's air defense zone.

[yanus]

Quote: Grenader

Quote: SHEKSPIR

But those states are at risk if their pilot gets captured. And the Apaches also get lost.

"Apache" is armed with anti-tank missiles "helfire", the latest modifications of which reach the target from 18 km, so it will be problematic to shoot them down, they may not enter the militia's air defense zone.

Well, I would see how they get into tanks in urban areas from 18km.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Grenader

"Apache" is armed with anti-tank missiles "helfire", the latest modifications of which reach the target from 18 km, so it will be problematic to shoot them down, they may not enter the militia's air defense zone.

Yes, but you forget that in the southeast there is, as such, no front line, and this does not mean that under the Apache hovering to launch missiles there are not a couple of fighters with "arrows".

[Big den]

Most likely, if the infa about helicopters is real, these are cobras from storage bases and are equipped accordingly

[341712]

http://topwar.ru/22935-pvo-i-poteri-udarnyh-vertoletov.html

Quote: SHEKSPIR

And the Apaches also get lost.

[Duke]

Bulletins from Strelkova Igor Ivanovich
14.07.14. 04: 12 Message from the militia.

"In the area of ​​the Belovodskoye career near Lugansk, the ukronacists are digging a trench for a mass grave for their dead soldiers."

[podpolkovnik]

Quote: Duke

Bulletins from Strelkova Igor Ivanovich
14.07.14. 04: 12 Message from the militia.

"In the area of ​​the Belovodskoye career near Lugansk, the ukronacists are digging a trench for a mass grave for their dead soldiers."

But what about non-waste production? For parts?....

[Peter Timofeev]

It’s time in Kiev to dig a mass grave for the Supreme Council.

[from punk]

Quote: Duke

"In the area of ​​the Belovodskoye career near Lugansk, the ukronacists are digging a trench for a mass grave for their dead soldiers."

[Matroskin 18]

after the recent shelling of the airport, about 300 troops escaped from there. At the moment, there are 500-600 National Guard and military.

Good statistics!

[Coffee_time]

Well, training on knocking down Apaches will begin, they are inferior in characteristics to ours in armor.

[Russ69]

Quote: Coffee_time

Well, training on knocking down Apaches will begin, they are inferior in characteristics to ours in armor.

Yesterday there was a message from the militias about the Apaches. They say we are waiting, the benefit of "Arrows" is now in excess ...

[AnaBat]

Let's see how the "Apaches" burn

[Revolver]

Quote: Vladimirets

I understand that the pilots will not be dill?

Is it so important? The main thing is that their exhaust is as hot as that of Milev's cars; the Igla's homing head will capture.

[77bob1973]

And in general, "needles" were created to knock down adversary cars.

[B.T.V.]

Benya must have hired.

[Giant thought]

Now the hunt for Apaches will be open, at least for the sake of principle and to once again poke the andatrasniks with their nose in their shit.

[ivanfly]

So I want to BREAK BENY KALAMOI toys. !!!

[DOMINO100]

I don’t think that he bought them. It’s a little expensive and he will. It’s about 18 million dollars, don’t forget that it’s a pity that a lot of that particular nationality and money will be! all the more so when they get knocked down too. and they don’t bring him income. This is another part of the Marleson ballet. buy fuel for 1 hryvnia and sell the army for 2 hryvnias, and 500 mercenaries still draw on the salvaged bounty. 4 million is already a sickle in the egg .. m!

[g1v2]

Or maybe Benya bought mercenaries with turntables to protect his property. Again, he doesn’t like his piglet, suddenly he will bring troops into Dnepropetrovsk, and Beni has a surprise there.

[Nikola73]

Unas in the Caucasus district, as I recall, 2 night hunters in service are available. It would be necessary to give at least one to peasants to use. This death will be Apache

[Matroskin 18]

Interesting photo!
BMP-2 ahead:
- Torsions of road wheels are clearly broken (broken). Was their barrel artillery damaged? I doubt it was most likely towed here.
- the cannon is disassembled and removed (a time-consuming undertaking), and the BMD-2 stands behind with the ATGM system not removed (remove its second-hand job). It seems that the BMP has been standing here for a long time and it’s been taken for a long time, and the BMD was only dragged ...
- How did the left float of the BMP turn out to be torn off and turned back? The shell would have simply pierced it, but would not have ripped it off! It was apparently partially unscrewed, and then for some reason bent.
Conclusion: the photo is not true, like many other photos and videos.

[Olegovi4]

Quote: Matroskin 18

Conclusion: the photo is not true, like many other photos and videos.

Also noticed. I think a similar photo was to reports of a breakthrough of an armored group from Slavyansk

[revnagan]

Quote: Vladimirets

"4 Apache helicopters are undergoing flight tests"

And why in Donetsk and Luhansk regions, in response, the Black Sharks are not tested? 6 pcs in each region?

[wolf7]

Most likely, the mercenaries will not send their own, and Ukrainians to retrain them for a long and expensive

[nils]

4 Apache helicopter?

And where is the Alligator in the DPR?

[Floock]

Ohlobystin is right. This is atonement. And Ukrainian, and Russian, and generally Slavic.
For 23 years, Ukraine revived these http://qrok.net/20864-zverstva-banderovcev.html Sold itself, its industry, science, the future of its children. The people were stupefied, believed in the presidents, the government, hoped for something ...
But now everything has become clear, and still they have chosen an oligarch, and again they send children to kill, destroy on the orders of obvious Bendera and fascists.
There will be no peace for them (Russian peacekeepers) until the ashes, blood and grief make them change their minds and crush the entrenched bastard.
And someone here said perfectly well that Putin has a million times more information than all Internet analysts combined. Draw Russia into the war for the sake of whom, huh?

[saag]

Quote: Floock

Draw Russia into the war for the sake of whom, huh?

Well, yes, with this logic, let them hammer the Russian border towns "To drag Russia into the war for whom, huh?"

[wrm]

Ahh, then declare war! Huh? Or think about it?

[saag]

Quote: wrm

Or think about it?

Think about how to explain inaction in the deaths of citizens of the Russian Federation

[wrm]

http://rg.ru/2014/07/13/reg-ufo/demarsh-anons.html

- We are now understanding what has happened, and these facts indicate that there is a dangerous escalation of tension at the border, this is a qualitatively higher degree of danger for our citizens living in the Russian Federation. Therefore, our demarches will be tough, concrete, but for this we need to find out all the circumstances of what happened, ”the representative of the Foreign Ministry said.

Inaction?

[Flinky]

It’s not necessary to get involved. But it is necessary to respond to shelling of one’s territory.
In addition, the United States must be destroyed. For not fucking trying to put a striped paw on our Crimea.

[DMB87]

Militia forces inflict massive artillery attacks on the positions of the Ukrainian military. So for the last day, Ukrainian troops had to stop their advance and go on the defensive. The appearance of a large number of artillery mounts and mortars at the disposal of the militia forces does not allow for a large-scale attack.

At the moment, the leading militia units inflict constant artillery attacks on the accumulation of troops and the constant checkpoints of the Ukrainian military. On the morning of July 13, gunmen fired at three Ukrainian military checkpoints in the Donetsk region. As a result of the shelling, three soldiers died, two were wounded, said the speaker of the ATO Alexey Dmitrashkivsky.
In 8.00, militia fighters fired mortars at a checkpoint near the village The riverside. According to the report, as a result of the shelling, two security forces died, two units of infantry fighting vehicles and three units of the D-30 grant were damaged. It is also reported about one dead and one wounded military during the shelling of a checkpoint near the village. Kalinov.

They also fired at a convoy of servicemen of the 72 brigade, which was moving in the direction of the Savur grave. According to preliminary estimates, 7 dead, two dozen wounded.

At the same time, the militia forces manage to replenish their reserves in manpower and armored vehicles. So during the day a large convoy of military equipment, including tanks and multiple launch rocket systems, arrived in the Lugansk garrison.

military-informant.com

Combat p [censorship] of the races Lyashko:

[DOMINO100]

translate what he sang there?

[DMB87]

A convoy of soldiers from the 72 brigade, which was moving in the direction of the Saur-Grave, was shot from artillery from Russian territory. According to preliminary estimates, 7, 20 wounded died. Also destroyed military equipment. Further blah blah blah, this is war and not ATO, Mr. President, introduce martial law.

Like so ...

[wolf7]

Today they broadcast on the radio, listened while driving from work, that they seem to have made a decision on targeted strikes in response to the shelling of our territory

[Yaks]

PArashenka-kaput .. Hitler-kaput ... soon you will meet ...

[from punk]

Quote: yaks

PArashenka-kaput .. Hitler-kaput ... soon you will meet ...

[podpolkovnik]

Quote: punk

Quote: yaks

PArashenka-kaput .. Hitler-kaput ... soon you will meet ...

And Baba Lera was already waiting ...

[Revolver]

Good you, humane, just want to hang. And my opinion is to count it.

[Big den]

test picture

[Yugra]

Ours seemed to be going to deliver targeted retaliatory strikes on dill. Here, on Apaches, it would not hurt to hit

[RESEARCHER]

Nothing. A little time will pass and the Americans will answer for everything.

[SS68SS]

Well done infantry, hit while hunting !!!!!! And on the tank columns, and on the Apaches, dotted - FIRE !!!!

[Balamyt]

As reports of "SovInformBuro" ....
Souls are stale ... and it comes to consciousness that you are getting used to such messages ....

[siberalt]

It seems that the infa has already passed that both airports are captured by the militia.

[rpek32]

comrades for a beard?
http://belarmy.by/tehnika/belarus-postavit-nacgvardii-ukrainy-44-maza

fake or true?

The National Guard of Ukraine, actively involved in the struggle by the separatists operating in the Donetsk and Lugansk regions, is in dire need of military vehicles with increased cross-country ability. The Belarusian army trucks MAZ will help solve this problem, an international contract for the supply of which was concluded between the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine and the Minsk Automobile Plant, UNIAN news agency reports.

Before the purchase, which is financed from the state budget of Ukraine, a corresponding tender was held, in which the Belarusian automaker was happy to take part. He not only accepted, but also won: as a result of the competition, an agreement was signed on the supply of MAZ military vehicles of cross-country capability to the brother country of 44. Among them are army trucks for transporting personnel and tractors capable of transporting various weapons.



The total amount of the contract amounted to 39 million 740 thousand Ukrainian hryvnia. It is expected that the Belarusian MAZ military vehicles will go into service with the National Guard of Ukraine before the end of this year.

In the meantime, the National Guard has to be content with transport and weapons remaining in Ukrainian military depots since Soviet times. However, the situation is quickly and confidently being rectified through foreign military assistance, government procurement and gifts from volunteers. In particular, it is known that one of the farmers in the west of Ukraine purchased an APC for his personal funds, which he presented to the National Guard. And in the Donbass battalion, which is literally choking on the stream of volunteers wishing to fight in it, they recently announced that they will primarily accept drivers arriving with their vehicles. Particularly welcomed off-road trucks, which are convenient for transporting personnel.

However, organized government procurement of weapons and equipment can do more than sponsor assistance. It was no coincidence that MAZ military vehicles won the tender: they are the most optimal in the post-Soviet space in terms of price-quality ratio, and in addition, the Belarussian army has been in the arsenal for more than a decade, where they have proven themselves on all roads and in any weather conditions.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: rpek32

comrades for a beard?
http://belarmy.by/tehnika/belarus-postavit-nacgvardii-ukrainy-44-maza

fake or true?

To whom is war, to whom is mother dear? What surprises you here? What dad money decided to cut down?

[ale-x]

Quote: rpek32

And in the Donbass battalion, which is literally choking on the stream of volunteers wishing to fight in it, they recently announced that they will primarily accept drivers arriving with their vehicles.

Rzhu nimagu. It remains to replace the formidable word BATTALION with a pleasant one to Kiev business generals KOOPERATIV.

[Uncle Ivan]

It’s true, there is confirmation on the Belarusian portals.

[DOMINO100]

and what did you want from the gypsy-chairman of the collective farm! comes to the point that he will not only throw a car, but also sell the S-300 to the Ukrainian army.

[Big den]

for 44 cars a little expensive, crap most likely dill. attempt to sow distrust between allies

[Scandinavian]

Not much late news ... Need more recent news

[ronin]

Well done! What else can you say?

[navara399]

It would be nice to add a couple of "Apaches" to the list of downed helicopters. And the crew will be taken, then in general it will be possible to record a sentimental interview with the involvement of foreign journalists.

[smershxnumx]

Urgent manufacturers of toilet paper from the notes of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs protest.

[siberalt]

From the notes of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation regarding Ukraine it is already possible to add more than one pathetic symphony

[IvanT]

One photo, of unknown origin, not a dock!
I would like to see more objective docs !!!!

[Geo]

I think they will appear over time. If our get there in the daytime.

[dchegrinec]

It would be just wonderful if these Apache helicopters were knocked out at the test stage together with the subjects.

[Hajj]

Well, that sailed from the Donetsk airport. They also tried to leave Luhansk across the fields, the fields are burning after the Grad.

[2224460]

militia of the Donetsk People’s Republic surrounded and destroyed a column of Ukrainian security forces near the city of Snezhnoye

.

[rassel0889]

Even before February 22, I watched the news, and waited for the yanyk to disperse the Maidan ... after the coup, it became clear the heavenly hundred, this is the first, but not the last hundred of Ukrainians, both the lessons and the militia, which will go to heaven.

Used to news from the front for a long time, because all media are talking about this + 90% of news about the war in VO.

[pahom54]

The tactics of waging this war are changing before our eyes ... The militias have already gained such experience that dill will not be too good ...
And if, by virtue of the tough response to the shelling of our territory, declared by the Russian Foreign Ministry, if our Apaches and a couple of accumulations of ukrov around Donetsk-Lugansk ("point" answers, so to speak ...), then, I think, Novorossia at least for a leave alone ...

[VNP1958PVN]

“The US is actively supplying the junta with weapons. In particular, in the village of Mayskoye (Dnepropetrovsk region), flight tests of the Apache 4 helicopter are being conducted, the DNR tweet says.

Zhirinovsky yesterday suggested sending sabotage groups. Good idea. Gotta send while they fly low!

[Big den]

Such things are done quietly, they will decide without Volfych, there are ways and DRG, including

[Same lech]

Among the dead was one of Igor Strelkov’s close associates, the commander of the assault battalion, known as “Vasilich

More like a classic ambush, they rather figured out the route and shot in a previously prepared place.

[pexotinec]

Guys, militia DONETSK, LUGANSK, hold on and so that you never, you hear never run out of "cigarettes", and cigarettes, like a soldier without them

[soldier]

Ukrainians write that it was they who defeated the militias here is the link http://www.aif.ua/society/social/1188294#id=3915321 but the photos do not give a single information war continues! militias respect knock the Nazis

[Naval]

What a pop, such a parish. (folk wisdom)

[kapitan281271]

If without apricots, then Apache is bad for dill. There are no turntables that can be used at night, but these will work at night and it’s difficult to beat them at night, but pros need to beat them up. I hope the GRU will wash these freaks so that it’s not bad.

[Scandinavian]

Air conditioners work on Apaches the same way that MI-24 and Apaches have. As Strelkov said, Thank God MANPADS are more than enough. One drawback is that Apaches track armored vehicles for many kilometers, the Americans installed a lot of software good there and systems in this APACH. But nothing and this advantage is leveled by the militia.

[ale-x]

The war goes to a whole new level. And where without it.

[Anti-ukra]

I agree with you. the other day, in one of the border cities, our GRU special forces from one city in central Russia talked with our boys. They say that they perform the tasks ..... which ones he didn’t say he just smiled .... signed a document ... so that the talk about Russia has leaked and it does not help for grandmothers

[sanek0207]

Good afternoon! And who remembers how in Yugoslavia grandfather one of the FLINT GUN shot down this "Apache", he fell right on his field and he took the pilots prisoner! Let the heroic forces try!

[Jackyun]

About the "flint" gun. Yugoslavia has nothing to do with it. A similar message came at the beginning of the second Iraqi campaign. The flying plane was declared lost for technical reasons, and the Americans who allegedly shot it down with a gun were then shot by the Americans.

[Bort radist]

And they promised a blitz krieg. But no, it's the same. Fat, milk, eggs? And in the end, kaput.

[donavi49]

In Lugansk, now the Ass, the airport was unblocked and the men were taken out of the Lvov airborne forces, and SpN. They also cut off roads to Donetsk and confidently pave the way to the LPR. In terms of losses, they do not seem to interfere with the advance quite quickly.

[Dali]

Which day I have already met your "messages" - you dill, what are you doing here? Decided to sow panic ?!
In SE now it’s not sweet everywhere ...

[donavi49]

I am the right prop). Just trying to give a realistic picture.

Here Kotych (Strelkov) confirms the morning map.

Luhansk Airport still in the hands of the enemy. Moreover, a fresh armored group broke through there.

I confirm information about the defeat of the column enemy supplies yesterday in the area between Marinovka and Kozhevny (southeast of Snezhnoye, near the border with Russia). The enemy's losses are being specified. 1 tank, 2 ZU-23-2 and two DRGs "worked" from us.

[Dali]

Which day I have already met your "messages" - you dill, what are you doing here? Decided to sow panic ?!
In SE now it’s not sweet everywhere ...

[Big den]

Facts in the studio ...

[donavi49]

Here Kotych (Strelkov) confirms the morning map.

Lugansk airport is still in the hands of the enemy. Moreover, a fresh armored group broke through there.

I confirm the information about the defeat of the enemy supply column yesterday in the area between Marinovka and Kozhevnya (southeast of Snezhniy, near the border with Russia). Losses of the enemy are specified. The 1 tank, the 2 ZU-23-2 and two DRGs "worked" from us.

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Here is the last one from him:
The situation in the Lugansk region is completely unclear. Only one thing is clear - the advance of ukrov continues and so far it has not been possible to stop.

[Big den]

And do not tell sir who writes on Strelkov's antique site?

[Rock2]

Terebi ears on dill sites, but not fools are sitting here ...

[gandalf]

Clarification from the official group of Bezler in VK about "Vasilich":

Quote: https://vk.com/club72992078?w=wall-72992078_886

“Vasilich” was not an approximate of Strelkov! Dima was in Bezler's group.

Peace be upon you ...

[Dali]

Where infa slipped that Vasilich was not found among the dead ...

[Dali]

Where infa slipped that Vasilich was not found among the dead ...

[repytw]

In the beginning they did not find, then in the depths of the forest they found three corpses, he is one of them.

[Zomanus]

I recall something from the recent. Jokes that the Ukrainian army is pulling up on one side of the border, and scrap metal collectors on the other. As it turns out, the Ukrainian equipment is in good condition. And about the "Grad", from which only scorched earth remains. As recent months have shown, it is also not so fatal if you manage to hide. About ukrov who do not know how and do not want to fight is also doubtful, judging by the fact that the fighting continues. I don't even want to talk about running out of fuel at nuclear power plants. It is not for nothing that many people have the feeling of an incomprehensible fuss, especially after the official news.

[pokermen]

A photo of a broken rifleman armored group (

[alex1310]

God forbid, MAZs will fall into a renewed Ukraine without Bendera and will help in the restoration of New Russia.

Quote: rpek32

comrades for a beard?
http://belarmy.by/tehnika/belarus-postavit-nacgvardii-ukrainy-44-maza

fake or true?

The National Guard of Ukraine, actively involved in the struggle by the separatists operating in the Donetsk and Lugansk regions, is in dire need of military vehicles with increased cross-country ability. The Belarusian army trucks MAZ will help solve this problem, an international contract for the supply of which was concluded between the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine and the Minsk Automobile Plant, UNIAN news agency reports.

Before the purchase, which is financed from the state budget of Ukraine, a corresponding tender was held, in which the Belarusian automaker was happy to take part. He not only accepted, but also won: as a result of the competition, an agreement was signed on the supply of MAZ military vehicles of cross-country capability to the brother country of 44. Among them are army trucks for transporting personnel and tractors capable of transporting various weapons.



The total amount of the contract amounted to 39 million 740 thousand Ukrainian hryvnia. It is expected that the Belarusian MAZ military vehicles will go into service with the National Guard of Ukraine before the end of this year.

In the meantime, the National Guard has to be content with transport and weapons remaining in Ukrainian military depots since Soviet times. However, the situation is quickly and confidently being rectified through foreign military assistance, government procurement and gifts from volunteers. In particular, it is known that one of the farmers in the west of Ukraine purchased an APC for his personal funds, which he presented to the National Guard. And in the Donbass battalion, which is literally choking on the stream of volunteers wishing to fight in it, they recently announced that they will primarily accept drivers arriving with their vehicles. Particularly welcomed off-road trucks, which are convenient for transporting personnel.

However, organized government procurement of weapons and equipment can do more than sponsor assistance. It was no coincidence that MAZ military vehicles won the tender: they are the most optimal in the post-Soviet space in terms of price-quality ratio, and in addition, the Belarussian army has been in the arsenal for more than a decade, where they have proven themselves on all roads and in any weather conditions.

[mishka_57]

Quote: IvanT

One photo, of unknown origin, not a dock!
I would like to see more objective docs !!!!

The photo is clearly not from the scene, but from some sort of dump of armored vehicles ...

[donavi49]

In general, this is a photo from Strela in Slavyansk, where the armored group was killed causing a distracting blow - 1 T-64BV, 1 T-64BV broke through but broke after some distance and was thrown, 2 BMP-2, 1 BMD-2. The unit lost the 2 BMD-2 and very few l / s (officially in general 0, but also unofficially little).

The armored group was broken, due to the error of the commander, who broke through the highway. After shelling, the l / s block ran into the green - and the armored group went on a breakthrough along the highway, and not along the field. On the highway, dill managed to stretch 2 of a number of mines, and the wrecked equipment was shot with an RPG from green. One tank and 1 infantry fighting vehicles left arable land without loss, but the tank broke down and was abandoned, and the BMP was already in Donetsk.

[Scandinavian]

Where does Infa come from, is there an official source?

[donavi49]

What is infa about? About the fact that the group died - Strelkov on camera, that because of an error they went along the highway, instead of the field - Strelkov's chief of staff on camera, that they died - photos and video wagons, that mines - photos and video with a mine with a barrage on a rope stating that mines were finishing off with an RPG from greenback - a video of both the surviving militias taken prisoner and the soldiers themselves, there are no other witnesses.

It has long been the same, on topvar heels, if not more so about this. On Bravery, everything has been sorted out in detail - here is a link to the analysis and ideas http://otvaga2004.mybb.ru/viewtopic.php?id=218&p=30

[Armax]

I wonder how the mattress covers will officially explain the appearance of the "Apaches" in the Donbass?
And how can Russia use this fact to help New Russia?

[Marconi41]

But unfortunately. The United States is helping the "legitimate" government of a "sovereign" country. And we (Russia) need to help the unrecognized republics. Therefore, their help will be advertised, and ours will be quiet.

[Armax]

Probably so, although Mrs. Psaki can "explain" anything.

[PValery53]

Such "gadgets" bring to the senses both the punishers and the junta itself. Once words do not reach, the funeral will reach. Regular junta breakdowns in Donbass will move the situation towards Kiev.

[mishka_57]

Quote: donavi49

In general, this is a photo from Strela in Slavyansk, where the armored group causing a distracting blow died

Thank you for the comprehensive info.

Quote: ArMax

I wonder how the mattress covers will officially explain the appearance of the "Apaches" in the Donbass?

Have they ever officially explained something ???

[wanderer_032]

The US is actively supplying the junta with weapons. In particular, in flight Mayskoye (Dnepropetrovsk region), 4 Apache helicopters are undergoing flight tests

If NATO is openly fighting and fighting, NATO is automatically an aggressor and Russia can begin to act without a UN mandate.
If the Apache is really true, then, apart from the NATO (specifically American) crews, no one can control them, because most of these vehicles are only in service with the US Armed Forces, while the machines exported to European forces are very limited.
And if you take their number in service with a single European country, then there are hardly more than a dozen of them. So who of the Western Europeans (who in life are hides for whom you can’t get snow in the winter) will take such helicopters out of their already small units (which cost a lot of money by the way)?
Right nobody.
Even if ethnic "Ukrainians" are sitting in their cabins, they are most likely US citizens, emigrants or their children.
It is also certain that people who emigrated to the USA from the territory of Ukraine or their children (all of them have American passports or dual citizenship) will probably already take part in the civil war on the territory of Ukraine.

[51064]

Moscow is considering the possibility of delivering “targeted retaliatory strikes” against the Ukrainian army in the event of continued shelling of Russian territory. About this writes on Monday, July 14, Kommersant, citing a source in the Kremlin.
The Russian authorities, as the source noted, “know for sure” where the fire is coming from. “Our patience is not unlimited,” he said, emphasizing at the same time that it was not a full-scale operation, but a single strike on positions from which they were firing on Russian territory.
Earlier, Yevgeny Bushmin, vice speaker of the Federation Council, suggested delivering accurate strikes against Ukraine. “It is necessary to do demonstratively if it was an artillery mount, it must be eliminated, the fact itself must be presented to the public - that any attack against Russia will be stopped. We need a precise point answer, ”he said.
On the morning of July 13, authorities in the Rostov Region reported that a shell from Ukraine, which had fallen into a residential building, flew into the region. As a result, a man died. Two more women were injured.
The Russian Foreign Ministry issued a sharp statement to Kiev, warning of “irreversible consequences”. The Ukrainian side rejected the accusations.
www.lenta.ru

[51064]

Just in case, a news summary for yesterday from Anna News on the eve of the night offensive of dill
and the defeat of the column at Snizhne. It is reported that the battalion commander of the Ukrop "Donbass" Kuzmin has been liquidated.

[Anchonsha]

The United States, as usual, acts in Jesuit fashion, shouting that they will not supply dill with military equipment, while blaming Russia. The militias have a hard time and we cannot give the latest weapons in their hands, since the West believes that the separatists are illegal, and the junta is a dill of lawfully elected authorities.

[Earnest]

Quote: donavi49

In Lugansk, now the Ass, the airport was unblocked and the men were taken out of the Lvov airborne forces, and SpN. They also cut off roads to Donetsk and confidently pave the way to the LPR. In terms of losses, they do not seem to interfere with the advance quite quickly.

“- I’m making up the present book. - I read: “With heroes they fell to the land of heroes on the voices” - Less than the third time it came to me with heroes - that’s for the sake of words ”
- Ukrbash, http://www.flibusta.net/polka/show/all?page=2
Do not give fat to the heroes until the hymn on the lips is wiped

[Andrew K]

I won’t be surprised if soon not only Apachy, but also F-15, F-16 bombers will fly over Donetsk.

[shitovmg]

May the hospitable land of Donbass take in products under the Indian name of the Apache tribe ...!

[Naval]

Weather conditions in the Donbass are clearly not conducive to the growth of dill. Hail knocks on the vine.

[Dali]

Quote: donavi49

In Lugansk ... .

Which day I have already met your "messages" - you dill, what are you doing here? Decided to sow panic ?!
In SE now it’s not sweet everywhere ...

[Mestny]

Quote: Matroskin 18

Conclusion: the photo is not true, like many other photos and videos.

Is Kremlin propaganda really?
Oh no no no...

[Avis24]

AN-64 helicopter on what "tests"? If this is a retraining process, then it takes 2-3 months to master it with very intensive work. So the crews are rather hired. Apache's "temperature exhaust" is just lower than ours without a special device. Yes, there is no armor protection, but this does not mean that it is easier to shoot down. "helfair" for 18 km is nonsense, teachers are materiel, not advertising. The greatest strength of these helicopters is the ambush action at night. From a range of 3-5 km from hovering, it can perfectly hit targets, enough video on the Internet. So you need to catch them from PNV at this moment, but this is a very difficult task. You can also ambush helicopters.

[patriot-rf]

Quote: Moment

So soon the militia will have new flying weapons. Dry is already in battle.

Duc and helicopters will soon go into action, if the Americans launched their turntables, then it’s time for us to drop the S-300, and then the helicopters

[Big den]

Military air defense of the "Tunguska" type for the protection of formations and calculations of MANPADS on the routes from their base in the Ukrop rear. Amers' verts are sharpened against technology, it is important for the militias to preserve and strengthen their technical potential.

[kelevra]

You need to take these American helicopters on camera, if they are actually on the net! You need to raise noise so that the Americans shut up and stop helping dill!

[123321]

Interview with the DNI militia who knocked out two Ukrainian T-64 tanks from the Utes machine gun


Large-caliber machine gun "Cliff", Caliber 12,7 mm. A shot from such a machine gun is close in characteristics to a manual anti-tank rifle (used in the Great Patriotic War)

[repytw]

14.07.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX Morning report from the field.

"The night was intense in Lugansk. From the Luxurious, the enemy fled - left only 2 wrecked tank (one is exactly a tank, the second is just a pile of scrap, which is not clear) - in the area of ​​the bypass road.
Artillery worked on the airfield twice - at half past twelve and 3 nights.
The landing force really tried to help the unblocking troops with a counterstrike, many of the Lvov paratroopers were laid.
It seems to be knocked over the airfield 1 Drying (gone, but her health has clearly decreased).
In the area of ​​the villages of Zelenopolye - Beloved at night and early in the morning (at 4 a.m.) there was again a fight - Ukrainians do not abandon attempts to release the encircled troops.
Ну и традиционные бои в районе Красного Партизана, Лисичанска (бедная Золотаревка) и Краснодон."

"Ополченцы ЛНР смогли взять под контроль аэропорт Луганска, все последнее время удерживавшийся украинскими войсками.
По официальным сообщениям, аэропорт был захвачен еще поздно вечером 13 июля, но информация о боях вокруг него поступала и в ночь на 14 июля. Еще днем 13 июля украинские каратели начали наступление на столицу ЛНР сразу с трех направлений, включая направление аэропорта. Однако, наступающая группировка не только не смогла оказать помощь осажденным в аэропорту, но и сама была рассеяна. Примечательно, что украинская сторона еще до окончания боев успела отрапортовать об успешном разблокировании объекта."

[donavi49]

Стрелок не подтверждает.
Lugansk airport is still in the hands of the enemy. Moreover, a fresh armored group broke through there.

I confirm the information about the defeat of the enemy supply column yesterday in the area between Marinovka and Kozhevnya (southeast of Snezhniy, near the border with Russia). Losses of the enemy are specified. The 1 tank, the 2 ZU-23-2 and two DRGs "worked" from us.

http://forum-antikvariat.ru/index.php?app=core&module=search&do=user_activity&mi
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[donavi49]

И еще официально:

"Ополченцы взяли в окружение аэропорт Луганска, контроль над которым в ночь на понедельник установили украинские военные, сообщил РИА Новости по телефону комендант Луганска Сергей Грачев.
"Аэропорт под контролем украинских (военных), но они в окружении", — сообщил он.
According to Grachev, on the eve of the militia managed to destroy one tank, Ukrainian troops are located about ten kilometers north of Lugansk, near the village of Metalist.
"Ополченцы никуда не продвинулись, отбили атаки, стоим на местах, заняли свои позиции. Украинские войска сейчас где-то возле Металлиста стоят", — рассказал собеседник агентства."
http://ria.ru/world/20140714/1015840968.html

[g1v2]

Ну в общем то было бы странно ,если взяли аэропорт Луганска , все таки там где-то в районе 2000 сидело. Тем более если туда полсотни танков пробиваются , то рано или поздно все равно разблокируют . Надо все грады на обстрел аэропорта сориентировать , чтоб там бетон плавился , а десантники из Львова богу молились , а не о бд думали.

[Big den]

Согласен с вами ,но градов у ополчения столько нет да и кормить их надо. На других направлениях тоже не сахар и пулять все в кучу нецелесообразно. Ополчению не хватает целеуказания, если ЦУ будет то и 82и120 мм. минометами можно там "бетон плавить". Руководство стесняется оказать массированую помощь в том числе беспилотники, печально

[Darth Vader]

Quote: Vladimirets

"4 Apache helicopters are undergoing flight tests"

I understand that the pilots will not be dill?

Почему ? Укропские... Мыкола Джонсон и Петро Смит....)))))

[Gladiolus]

А со стороны ополченцев, мне кажется, давно готовы снайперские группы с ПТРами противоапачевые. На захват цели стрелком не среагирует оборудование апача, как на ракету ПЗРК...

[Bosk]

На предмет уничтоженной колонны не понятно, если били только ствольной артиллерией то вопрос прямой наводкой или по площадям, если прямой то получается украинцы вперёд разведку не пускали?, а если по площадям то это сколько орудий стреляло чтоб накрыть колонну...или всё таки "Град" присутствовал...