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Nikita Mikhalkov: what does Ukraine have to do with it?

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In the new edition of the author's program "Besogon" Nikita Mikhalkov talks about the relationship between Russia, Ukraine, the United States and Europe and their future. Nikita Mikhalkov read an essay by Yuri Kubasov "The fate of Ukraine does not bother anyone." What is the role of Ukraine in relations between Russia, the USA and Europe? Who for the USA Russia and who for the USA Europe? What are guided States, supporting the conflict in Ukraine?


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  1. ya.seliwerstov2013
    ya.seliwerstov2013 14 July 2014 06: 18
    +25
    Tell me, where are the terrorists here ?!
    What mother gave birth to you ?!
    Here is the coffin prepared for the "separatist".
    He is only nine years old from birth ...

    And next to her mother ... Even the sky is getting dark.
    All pain and sorrow in tearful eyes.
    I feel sorry for people who blindly believe in power,
    That drowned her people in tears ...

    So I want to shout: “Stop the war!
    Quickly return the summer to the Donbass.
    Save the children from fear and misfortune! ”
    Does God really not hear us ...
    1. Canep
      Canep 14 July 2014 07: 05
      +16
      He talked with a friend from Germany, he says that 50% of Germans also like Mikhalkov, don’t give a damn about Ukraine, the wedge is driven between Europe and Russia, and Russia also doesn’t give a damn about it, the main thing is to force Europeans to pay US public debt. But warned, it means armed, I think Europeans will not let themselves be bred as suckers and will not pay for supposedly American gas (it does not exist, but there is a substitute - Arab gas) at the price of shale gas.
      I believe that time works for us, but on condition that Russia does not openly fight in Ukraine. Confidence in the dollar is weakening every day.
      1. Magadan
        Magadan 14 July 2014 07: 56
        +1
        again rotten talk about "if only there was no war!"
        You have few historical examples of how cowardly civilizations died, who hid their heads in the sand instead of taking up arms?
        Let me remind you that there is no need for illusions. Novorossia will lose - then everyone will definitely turn away from Russia, because they are not friends with the chmirs. Friends with the strong.
        And yet - I immediately warn you that ALL press and media in the United States immediately after the defeat of Novorossii will start broadcasting the same thing that you now see on the 24 News. Especially in order for the whole world to see what Russian Chmyras and how they don’t do a damn for their own people, and do not even respond to shelling their own territories.
        And I am amazed by people like you, who, instead of SPECIFIC examples and explanations for some reason, continue to vparivat some unprovable nonsense about "America-wants-to-incite us"
        1. Bi_Murza
          Bi_Murza 14 July 2014 08: 35
          +13
          Do you know what war is? did you lose your brothers, sisters, friends, denied yourself to your family everything - for the sake of victory?
          It’s not necessary to start a war, I won’t tell you to go to war in the Donbass, at least send money and as much as you can not afford! That there would be no money left even for essential goods and services, how the wife and children will react, Then you will get a very, very distant idea of ​​what war is,
          We all want to stop the disgrace that is being done in Ukraine, but to conduct military operations when all other possibilities have been exhausted,
          I personally trust Putin when I need to start and whether I need to think he knows hi
          1. FANTOM-72
            FANTOM-72 14 July 2014 10: 35
            +3
            Quote: Bi_murza
            I personally trust Putin when I need to start and whether I need to think he knows

            And he doesn’t hide his head in the sand, as they like to tryndet to hold back, picking the keyboard in a warm, dry room. He has already pushed through Europe (with a southern stream), has worked productively in the "backyard" of mattress makers (Cuba, Nicaragua, Argentina, Brazil). I would not be surprised if the victory of Germany at Ch.M. will turn out to be "planned" to raise national consciousness over "allied" feelings (just kidding).
          2. Wheel
            Wheel 14 July 2014 13: 41
            0
            Quote: Bi_murza
            I personally trust Putin when I need to start and whether I need to think he knows

            Trust well from afar ....
        2. Skif83
          Skif83 14 July 2014 09: 44
          +2
          In principle, I agree.
          But you need to be friends with your own aircraft.
          Russia must pursue its INTERESTS!
          But Russia is not ready for a full-blooded war, despite Shoigu’s victorious reports, all the latest exercises!
          Therefore, in my opinion, it is SIMPLE to equip the armies of the LPR and the DPR with sufficient weapons and equipment. They will crush the junta before the end of the year.
          Supply channel ..., you just make an offer, there are channels.
        3. ovgorskiy
          ovgorskiy 14 July 2014 12: 24
          +1
          Magadan, that you are celebrated under the Pidnos flag, then under the Ukrov flag. Why are you so smart, a warrior with an indefinite residence?
        4. Playerman
          Playerman 14 July 2014 12: 47
          0
          Man, everything is clear. No hysteria needed. Russians have never been chmyra
        5. patriot-rf
          patriot-rf 14 July 2014 13: 26
          0
          couch strategist and warrior, look better who is friends with the USA? But they all seem strong. I understand that if the troops are brought in, you will run ahead and scream ahead = I warned you, you must send troops =, and you’ll be in the trenches you’ll just be able to warn. But to conduct a competent analysis of the information and draw the appropriate conclusion, this is clearly not for you. And remember, not all the power is in the fists, the one who besides the strength often wins is also brains. Here so somehow.
      2. DOMINO100
        DOMINO100 14 July 2014 08: 04
        +1
        people understand that, but leadership? Merkel is rushing around. They’re jabbing and they’re running out. Oland can finally be colorless. Spy SCANDAL, but we don’t trust America anymore ... and right after a day, we will forget the scandal in exchange for trade relations. .and the Germans are not the same! chopped!
    2. 1812 1945
      1812 1945 14 July 2014 07: 31
      +3
      Quote: ya.seliwerstov2013
      So I want to shout: “Stop the war!
      Quickly return the summer to the Donbass.
      Save the children from fear and misfortune! ”
      Does God really not hear us ...

      Indeed, it reaches the heart. Difficult prose is more accurate. Yes, only zombies rule the feast in Ukraine. They don’t have hearts - the remains of rotten meat devoured by worms and greed. Those who listened to Mikhalkov understood, probably, that there was no easy way out of this situation. And the zombies must be destroyed, and - most importantly - the USA, who prepared this catastrophe for the Russian World, were neutralized. It is possible, passing through the prism of one’s perception, something not to understand, something not to accept ... But it is not possible for a sane person not to accept that the essence of what Mikhalkov said is true!
    3. tatarin1955
      tatarin1955 14 July 2014 08: 45
      +2
      There is a beautiful saying that it’s a criminal saying God is not a fraer, he sees everythingI assure you that is exactly so ..
      And I'm not talking about Ukrainians
    4. tatarin1955
      tatarin1955 14 July 2014 08: 45
      -1
      There is a beautiful saying that it’s a criminal saying God is not a fraer, he sees everythingI assure you that is exactly so ..
      And I'm not talking about Ukrainians
    5. Giant thought
      Giant thought 14 July 2014 10: 03
      0
      Our elite must be changed, as Mikhalkov said.
      1. Dante Alighieri
        Dante Alighieri 14 July 2014 12: 15
        +3
        Yes, but only if the process is initiated by the elite itself, and it is foolish to hope for that. The only case when such a plan was implemented in world practice in general was the USSR in the 1930s, but everything was tied to two things: the powerful ideology and the political will of Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin. It is thanks to his will: the will that determines the common cause, the will that overcomes laziness, the will that clearly names what is good and what is bad, that we became a power. Not an agro-energy appendage, but a state that plays by its own rules (which even the "sovereign states" of our time are not capable of, since although they are independent in the methods of their activities, they have already accepted "alien" rules, which means they have lost a priori) ... And even though we were sitting at the same table with our opponent, we played with our own deck, and not with the sprinkled cards offered by an unknown dealer.

        Now why is it impossible to break the modern elite. Behind Stalin was a nation, not all, but the overwhelming majority (proportion decides everything). In addition, the people were already bound by ideology, and there were still many atomized individuals, but the bulk, sorry for repeating this term, had already accepted the rules of the Bolsheviks' game, especially since they turned out to be incredibly true to their program documents. It was on this skeleton that Stalin relied. Today there is no ideology, not even just a conceptual idea. But the Russians need an idea because we are a people of ideas, a people of service, a people of mission. I wrote about this and will write. Czechs can eat and cf..b, Austrians can eat and cf..b, and the Russians want a feat for the sake of an idea. This is true! But no one promised us ideas, and even on the horizon it doesn’t glow. And without it, society is not cohesive and is a bunch of selfish individuals who unite in any alliances only on condition of personal gain, again for the most part (this is clearly visible among young people). THIS IS FACTOR NO. VAN.

        Today's elite, unlike the Bolsheviks, does not even like to fulfill not so much their promises as their obligations (remember how we like to shift responsibility in education, health care, etc. from the local level to the federal level and vice versa, and as a result, no one is anything to anyone is not obliged to). That is why the people do not believe her. Going to elections, people choose between the lesser of evils, not the best. That is why the government cannot rely on the people and is forced to rely on even a smaller layer of society, but on a more stable one - on the bureaucracy, which thereby becomes a privileged layer and often replaces the ruling elite, puts forward conditions for it. It turns out a vicious circle: the authorities (elite) do not fulfill their duties - the people do not believe them, as a result, the authorities cannot rely on the people in a crisis situation (not a flood or an earthquake, but something global - requiring the mobilization of the entire society). The question arises: why the ruling elite does not fulfill its obligations? Because most of them do not associate their future with Russia, they are biased by the West: there are their investments, their homes, their children, wives and mistresses live there. Yes, perhaps among the elite there are altruists (and they most likely exist, as elsewhere) who really live for their people and such people are really not afraid of any sanctions, but the whole trouble is that they are a "besieged island" in an ocean of cynicism and self-seeking. And being in the minority, they are forced to observe "corporate ethics". They cannot address the people directly, because for the most part, these are good managers, but not leaders. THIS IS THE ZWINE FACTOR.

        Two factors, even funny, only two factors separate us from our self-sufficiency, our true independence from all: from the West and from the East, from the North and from the South. Two factors that prevent us from being true owners of our land, two factors that jeopardize the ability to transfer this land to our children and grandchildren. Two factors - how little and how much at the same time.
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  2. mig31
    mig31 14 July 2014 06: 21
    +6
    Everything is very simple - not a day without war, the motto of the State Department, and away from the United States, and without human loss for them, and the dollar is safe - you can print without stopping ...
    1. Very old
      Very old 14 July 2014 07: 17
      +4
      Everyone understands the "secret" meaning of the Fasciston policy: war is a profitable business.
      Stop now Amer’s wars around the world - in a moment the wall will collapse
      And the old imperative - divide, etc. still in motion.
  3. Balamyt
    Balamyt 14 July 2014 06: 26
    0
    It’s very rude, but in my opinion, Ukraine is a beautiful girl on hand, because of which all the village boys have been brawled ......
    1. Lukich
      Lukich 14 July 2014 07: 43
      +18
      Quote: Balamyt
      It’s very rude, but in my opinion, Ukraine is a beautiful girl on hand, because of which all the village boys have been brawled ......
      1. 222222
        222222 14 July 2014 10: 42
        0
        Lukich SU Today, 07:43 ↑
        Lukich, there is such a disease — it is very difficult to treat .. And with concomitant factors (the presence of parties and individuals playing on this disease) - it leads to a coma ... and sometimes to death ..
  4. aleks700
    aleks700 14 July 2014 06: 31
    +9
    Ukraine. And what about N. Mikhalkov?
    1. Wheel
      Wheel 14 July 2014 13: 45
      0
      Quote: aleks700
      Ukraine. And what about N. Mikhalkov?

      Well, what about?
      Lick the right place in time - holy!
      And God forbid, they’ll excommunicate from the feeder ...
  5. Consul-t
    Consul-t 14 July 2014 06: 46
    +3
    I also understand when artists express their opinion, but get into politics ...
    Look at the duma, half the athletes and artists. What is the use of them?
    1. Very old
      Very old 14 July 2014 09: 49
      0
      Anatoly, in Russian - easier than steamed turnip

      Where to get the "correct" voices?
    2. Wheel
      Wheel 14 July 2014 13: 47
      0
      Quote: Consul-t
      I also understand when artists express their opinion, but get into politics ...
      Look at the duma, half the athletes and artists. What is the use of them?

      Very good sense!
      What they said - they grunted.
      But those who are not allowed to the trough - they are shit in the opposition.
  6. shelva
    shelva 14 July 2014 06: 51
    +3
    One can imagine how many bureaucrats of the highest rank will be left without work when the Americans finally settle down with the "establishment of democracy throughout the world."
    1. DOMINO100
      DOMINO100 14 July 2014 08: 14
      0
      exactly!)))))
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  8. knn54
    knn54 14 July 2014 06: 56
    -1
    That would not be forgotten.
  9. sssr
    sssr 14 July 2014 07: 01
    +2
    The United States is a serpent, a tempter, Satan for the world. I hate all the fibers of the soul and let it be damned forever.
  10. sv68
    sv68 14 July 2014 07: 04
    -1
    Mikhalkov decided to promote? make at least one truthful film about the war-and that your faces weren’t close to him-and it’s better not to get involved in politics and there are a lot of close-minded people
    1. sv68
      sv68 14 July 2014 07: 42
      0
      I’m looking, one rat has already been noted as a minus. Do not intimidate!
      1. tan0472
        tan0472 14 July 2014 08: 39
        +6
        I also put you a minus (fourth) because I consider Mikhalkov to be a person with a capital "H". I think he is doing a great job with his video messages. I consider your words about "promoted" to be incorrect. He expresses his thoughts as you express them (on this site). Are you doing PR too?
        Here is a link to his channel on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiwIy5q59aD-Nph5f-Zvp2A
  11. Mahmut
    Mahmut 14 July 2014 07: 13
    +2
    Quote: Consul-t
    I also understand when artists express their opinion, but get into politics ...
    Look at the duma, half the athletes and artists. What is the use of them?

    But athletes are not people. Or politicians in special-occupation workers should be raised.
    1. DOMINO100
      DOMINO100 14 July 2014 08: 16
      +1
      if such as Klitschko, then there is definitely no sense! for Ukraine of course. Russia + that the mayor is an unwise person.
  12. AVV
    AVV 14 July 2014 07: 15
    +6
    If the United States’s ur.ods don’t get the dollar out of the swamp, and that’s what’s going on, then the revolt of the US people and civil war will come to the United States, that’s why the State Department’s people put out the fire in America with the lives of Russian-speaking residents of Donbas and Lugansk, and Ukraine is on their drum, they are ready to sacrifice the whole population aside, if only they would have everything good !!!!
  13. _umka_
    _umka_ 14 July 2014 07: 30
    +1
    For their homeland
    http://yadi.sk/d/GNdVAfZaDoJbz
  14. azbukin77
    azbukin77 14 July 2014 07: 51
    +1
    Mikhalkov, like his dad, well, you have to be noted everywhere! From my point of view, a very unpleasant person!
  15. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 14 July 2014 07: 52
    +1
    As he was tired, this master from the TV.
  16. reference
    reference 14 July 2014 08: 12
    +1
    This makes sense, as one of the reasons why not
  17. Avis24
    Avis24 14 July 2014 08: 20
    +8
    I do not like Mikhalkov, and for a long time, with "One of our own among strangers, a stranger among our own," but in Besogon he expounds quite adequately and reasonably. And at the expense of artists and athletes in politics, I will say, remember Reagan, at worst, Schwarzenegger.
    1. tan0472
      tan0472 14 July 2014 08: 44
      +2
      Quote: Avis24
      I do not like Mikhalkov, and for a long time, with "One among strangers, a stranger among friends"

      Because you were for Shilov, and Mikhalkov played a bandit? laughing
      1. Shurale
        Shurale 14 July 2014 08: 50
        -1
        Because they kill Mikhalkov there, I, too, because of entov fact, this filem is very nice ...
  18. Shurale
    Shurale 14 July 2014 08: 49
    -1
    Someone else watching this scum?
  19. Freeway_ 3007
    Freeway_ 3007 14 July 2014 08: 53
    0
    And this one there is an "expert on geopolitics", I don’t take him vapsche ... as a director was blown away, now it remains
  20. kaa1977
    kaa1977 14 July 2014 09: 49
    0
    This was all clear a long time ago, the goals of the Americans are obvious. It is not clear why their European sidekicks have not seen this until now (some just now began to understand there when the war was at their door). This whole gimp does not last the first year, and such conflicts and acts should have been prevented. Until Europe catches up with the situation, and tells the Americans a clear and unequivocal NO, and until America collapses as a power after the European NO, the chaos bred by mattresses will not subside. And we should contribute to this, but not to get involved in a war in any case.
  21. kyznets
    kyznets 14 July 2014 14: 25
    +4
    Again Mikhalkov spoke and rushed to spit at him. I'm not a fan of him, as a person I don't always like him. But, as a director, actor and host of the "Besogon" program, he is quite consistent! And you, critics of Mikhalkov, did you shoot a film, played a role, said something sensible, new, smart, not even on the air, so that someone would listen to you? Maybe you have an art history or philological education? And how do you know about the war better than him? What did you dislike or like in Mikhalkov's words? Or did you go to the forum to spit on him? And he said sensible things. And always, consistently promotes the Russian national idea, the Russian Orthodox idea. And do not touch his dad, too, the Kingdom of Heaven! Well, please don't be envious and bilious, like dill. Mikhalkov is doing something. Try to listen and watch without bias, our enemies are in Washington and Kiev. And Mikhalkov and I have common enemies and a common Orthodox faith. I think it's stupid and mean to bite someone who is on the same side with you. It is time for us, Russians, Orthodox, to finally learn to support each other.
    1. Barmal
      Barmal 14 July 2014 18: 01
      0
      kyznets

      that's right. Agree with you.