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Strelkov: Lugansk is attacking about 70 Ukrainian tanks

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Strelkov: Lugansk is attacking about 70 Ukrainian tanksOn the outskirts of Lugansk, an attack on the militia began about 70 tanks, said the Minister of Defense of the Donetsk People’s Republic Igor Strelkov.

“In Lugansk (on its outskirts) heavy fighting. Much is unclear, but it is confirmed that the enemy threw into battle about 70 tanks as part of two compact armored groups. There is still unconfirmed information about the landing of enemy special forces directly in the city from helicopters, ”his words are quoted on the page“ Reports from Igor Ivanovich Strelkov ”on the VKontakte social network.

“We have artillery fights along the front, the enemy pulls up a lot of armored vehicles, artillery and helicopters. From the south and from the west are columns, "- said in a statement.

“I also inform you that the icorpus website is“ natural ”, and its copy with the letter k is a fake,” said Strelkov.

Recall, a column of Ukrainian military fell on Friday under fire MLRS "Grad" militia. Even according to official Ukrainian data, about two dozen servicemen died, and according to unofficial data more than 50. The number of wounded, according to all sources, exceeds one hundred.

On Sunday, the militia reported that the captured Su-25 attack aircraft struck at Ukrainian troops.

Since mid-April, Kiev authorities have been conducting a “special operation” in the east of Ukraine to suppress the protest movement in Donbass. Security forces actively use heavy artillery and combat Aviation. Numerous civilian casualties and the destruction of residential buildings and infrastructure are reported.
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  1. lelikas
    lelikas 13 July 2014 17: 38
    +132
    Hang on guys.
    Does the army still have helicopters?
    1. herruvim
      herruvim 13 July 2014 17: 41
      +44
      Hang on guys !!! Good luck in battle and long life to you the defenders of the southeast!
      1. herruvim
        herruvim 13 July 2014 17: 46
        +77
        Good luck and victory, and no matter how many tanks come out of the battle, beat them once and for all
        1. thinking
          thinking 13 July 2014 17: 49
          +8
          Good poster, plus sign.
          1. nycsson
            nycsson 13 July 2014 19: 49
            +5
            More about our Donetsk .....
            1. Sterlya
              Sterlya 13 July 2014 20: 55
              +39
              I wonder how many Russians on the territory of their country should die before they stop writing the notes of protest? The West sneezing on these notes ... as before, they sneezed and wrote
              1. BOB044
                BOB044 13 July 2014 21: 01
                +3
                Probably Russia is already making a shell which it will respond. It is a pity that only time is running out.
                1. oleg34
                  oleg34 14 July 2014 04: 43
                  -2
                  Donetsk, July 13. Minister of Defense of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic Igor Strelkov (Girkin) spoke about the desertion of one of the most colorful representatives of the self-defense forces of the Cossack Alexander Mozhaev, better known by the nickname "Babai", and members of his group.

                  “Babai is alive and well. Deserted with most of the “Crimean Cossacks” immediately after leaving Kramatorsk. At first, they refused to obey the order and go to Donetsk (they “rallied” and “puffed up” for a long time: such as “we won’t leave the city!”), And then all of a sudden they all fell apart and “found” already on the border itself, ”Strelkov said.

                  According to him, “the honor to further defend Novorossia” was provided by the Cossacks to local militias and volunteers, “who are guided by the notion of“ military discipline ”so hated by modern“ Cossacks ”.”
                  1. vladimirZ
                    vladimirZ 14 July 2014 06: 26
                    +5
                    Provocateur oleg34 !!!
                    Babay (Alexander Mozhaev) in Donetsk! He continues to fight the fascists of the Ukrainian junta!
              2. Raskolnik
                Raskolnik 14 July 2014 13: 44
                0
                Quote: Sterlya
                I wonder how many Russians on the territory of their country should die before they stop writing the notes of protest? The West sneezing on these notes ... as before, they sneezed and wrote

                This is the tactics of the Nazis. provoked in the same way in 41 years.
        2. herruvim
          herruvim 13 July 2014 17: 50
          +28
          Hang on guys. Remember tanks in the city - coffins on caterpillars
          1. matross
            matross 13 July 2014 19: 40
            +21
            Quote: herruvim
            Remember the tanks in town - coffins on caterpillars

            Yeah? Coffins are only for those who do not know how to use them as part of assault groups.
            1. kergudu straight
              kergudu straight 13 July 2014 19: 55
              0
              Coffins are there, the tank in the city is already doomed, it can be planted from any basement from any basement, but there is no dynamic protection there.
              1. matross
                matross 13 July 2014 21: 36
                +25
                Quote: Kergudo Straight
                from any sewage system they will plant in the bottom, but there is no dynamic protection.

                Apparently, they will "plant" from a grenade launcher, since they screwed about dynamic protection? I would like to see the corpse of a "specialist" - kamikaze x who burst into the bottom of the tank from the sewer hatch ... wassat
                1. kergudu straight
                  kergudu straight 13 July 2014 22: 00
                  -5
                  Yes, it’s easy a water pipe and a battery and fly a racket, but it’s good for your friend to know that from RPGs you can shoot at planes
                  1. matross
                    matross 13 July 2014 22: 17
                    +17
                    Quote: Kergudo Straight
                    it’s good for you, my friend, to know that from RPGs you can shoot at planes

                    You can shoot, son ... you can’t get
                    1. kergudu straight
                      kergudu straight 13 July 2014 22: 24
                      +16
                      What kind of son am I to you? I still gave an oath to the USSR and our instructors were not like today, we served for two years, and we did not serve duty, and our motto was "Survive to win, the dead are deserters on the battlefield."
                      1. surveyor
                        surveyor 14 July 2014 10: 20
                        +1
                        look at the battles of the Syrians, they have losses, but the professionalism of the tankers in the application of armored personnel carriers prevails.
                    2. arane
                      arane 13 July 2014 22: 35
                      +2
                      you can even throw .....
                    3. 573385
                      573385 15 July 2014 23: 28
                      0
                      And on helicopters?
                2. Arberes
                  Arberes 13 July 2014 22: 22
                  +7
                  Quote: Kergudo Straight
                  they will plant in the bottom, but there is no dynamic protection.

                  Quote: matRoss
                  Apparently, they will "plant" from a grenade launcher, since they screwed about dynamic protection?

                  Why complicate things so much? There are grenade launchers with the so-called tandem ammunition. The first charge of ammunition, when approaching, undermines the reactive armor, and the second burns through the armor of the tank with the second! The Jews in the last war on their "Merkavas" felt all the "charm" of this weapon.
                  Another thing is that the DNR soldiers most likely simply do not have these weapons.
                  1. pensioner
                    pensioner 13 July 2014 22: 35
                    +4
                    Quote: Arberes
                    and the second burns through the armor

                    Forced to correct. Doesn’t burn, but presses through, or something. The pressure of the cumulative jet is huge, and the metal does not withstand ...
                    Good night to the workers of the pen and lyre! hi How about the finale look under it drinks a business?
                    1. Arberes
                      Arberes 13 July 2014 23: 08
                      +1
                      Quote: retired
                      Forced to correct. Doesn’t burn, but presses through, or something. The pressure of the cumulative jet is huge, and the metal does not withstand ...

                      Sorry, blundered manenko!
                      Quote: retired
                      Good night to the workers of the pen and lyre!

                      And to you ours with a brush, dear senior citizen (5) hi
                      Quote: retired
                      How about a finale look under this thing?

                      I am only for, but what will the respected tell us nyxson (1)?
                      He very strictly monitors the virtual drinking of alcohol on this blessed site! what
                  2. kergudu straight
                    kergudu straight 13 July 2014 22: 38
                    0
                    In street battles, all means are good, often the simplest is more useful, but in such traps the presence of a fighter is not necessary
                    1. BLACK-SHARK-64
                      BLACK-SHARK-64 15 July 2014 16: 46
                      0
                      you can lay landmines ......
                3. yehat
                  yehat 14 July 2014 17: 25
                  0
                  Do not dig into the details! A tank in the city is severely constrained by the threat that infantry can easily get close to it unnoticed and use anti-tank missiles from a convenient distance - this is a fact. And the rest is tactics. Somewhere without assault groups, nowhere, and somewhere among the militias the heaviest weapon is an assault rifle. Then the tank has nothing to fear.
                  1. BLACK-SHARK-64
                    BLACK-SHARK-64 15 July 2014 16: 48
                    0
                    you can throw something from the roof .....
            2. herruvim
              herruvim 14 July 2014 18: 10
              +1
              Do you think the Ukrainian tankers and command have similar experience?

              In the city, such tanks (T-72B1, T-72B (M), T-80B, T-80BV) become easy prey. So, the guns of modern tanks cannot shoot at an angle above 15 °, and mounted shooting is generally excluded from them. And high-explosive shells of tank guns of caliber from 76 to 125 mm contain too little explosive (BB) and are weak for the destruction of large stone structures.
              On February 20, 1995, Defense Minister Pavel Grachev said: "Without the action of the tanks, Grozny would not have been possible to take." Quite right, but this requires not ordinary, but special assault tanks.
        3. nycsson
          nycsson 13 July 2014 19: 46
          +3
          News about our Donetsk ......
          1. gav6757
            gav6757 14 July 2014 00: 52
            +5
            Nothing, our rulers will once again disagree and write a note of protest!
            And Ukrainians, once again, will ignore this note, because Russia alone is to blame!
            In addition, it’s not scary to shoot adjacent territory, the paper will endure everything, write to Pushkin - write!
            Something like that!
            And, it would be necessary to suppress their artillery, by 10-20 kilometers, and it will become easier for everyone, well, maybe, except for Parashkin ...
            1. BLACK-SHARK-64
              BLACK-SHARK-64 15 July 2014 16: 54
              +1
              Jews hollow right and left, if something flies to them and explodes ....
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        5. Spnsr
          Spnsr 14 July 2014 01: 04
          +4
          DNR: The losses of the Ukrainian army are about five thousand people
          July 13, 2014, 10:11 - Military Review 795
          army of ukraine, east, southeast, donbass, losses, war, military operations
          The headquarters of the DPR militia published a summary of the losses of the Ukrainian army in the battles in the Donbass.
          The total losses of the Ukrainian army in the Donbass for the period from May 2 to July 11 - 4994 people.
          Over the last 300 hours, the losses of the Ukrainian army can be classified as very significant gigantic - more than 24 people. It is important to say that the southern group of the Ukrainian army was in the boiler. The largest losses were suffered by 160 mechanized brigades (Yavorov, Lviv region) - more than 79 killed and wounded. The military personnel of 100 airborne brigades (Nikolaev) also suffered heavy losses - about XNUMX people, the Southeast Army press center informs.
          It is noted that the LPR militia shot down another Su-25 and the percentage of aircraft losses reached 50%.
          As of July 11, the total losses of the Ukrainian army in a military conflict within their country were 4994 people (killed, wounded, prisoners).
          Among them, 1730 extremists of the “Right Sector”, who mainly became part of the National Guard, as well as losses among the servicemen of the National Guard of Ukraine themselves. On May 29, Major General Sergei Kulchitsky, the head of the Combat Training Directorate of the National Guard, was killed near Slavyansk.
          Among the losses of 1400 Ukrainian mercenaries included in the special battalions of Kolomoisky “Dnieper”, “Donbass”, “Aydar” and “Azov”. Also among the losses 115 employees of the SBU of Ukraine (Sumy Alpha was completely destroyed, Kiev, Poltava, Ternopol, Ivano-Frankivsk, Lviv, Rivne, Lutsk, Volyn, Vinnitsa, Zhytomyr Alpha suffered heavy losses)
          1. Spnsr
            Spnsr 14 July 2014 01: 05
            +3
            Further on the list, the headquarters of the DPR militia gives such data on the losses of armed groups fighting on the side of the Ukrainian army:
            300 foreign mercenaries: the Polish PMC ASBS Othago lost 109 people, the American PMC Greystone - 40 people, the American PMC Asademi (until 2009 known as Blackwater) - 125 people. Baltic women snipers lost 26 people.
            190 military personnel of 95 airmobile Zhytomyr brigade
            150 military personnel of the 25 airmobile Dnepropetrovsk brigade
            180 military personnel of 79 airmobile brigade (Nikolaev)
            230 military personnel of 24 mechanized brigade (Yavorov, Lviv region)
            30 military personnel of 80 airmobile regiment (Lviv)
            40 military personnel of the 3rd regiment of special forces (Kirovograd)
            30 military personnel of the 8th Special Forces Regiment (Khmelnitsky)
            50 servicemen of 93 mechanized brigades (Cherkasskoye village, Novomoskovsk district of Dnipropetrovsk region)
            45 troops 72 mechanized brigade (Bila Tserkva, Kiev region)
            55 military personnel of the Lugansk border detachment
            40 military personnel of the Donetsk border detachment
            30 servicemen of the 51st brigade of army aviation of the national guard (Alexandria, Kirovograd region)
            30 military personnel of 16 brigade of army aviation (Brody, Lviv region)
            30 military personnel of the 128 mountain infantry brigade (Mukachevo, Transcarpathian region)
            50 troops of territorial defense battalions
            25 military personnel of 831 tactical aviation brigades (Mirgorod, Poltava region)
            5 military personnel of 114 tactical aviation brigade (Ivano-Frankivsk)
            20 servicemen of the 299th tactical aviation brigade (Nikolaev)
            9 people from the 25th transport air brigade (Melitopol) - crew of the 1st IL-76
            5 servicemen from the AN-30 reconnaissance aircraft shot down on June 6 (tentatively Chuguev, Kharkov region)
            25 CIA and FBI employees (13 killed, 12 injured
            40 employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs
            Destroyed equipment: 1 AN-26 aircraft, 1 AN-30 reconnaissance aircraft, 2 Il-76 aircraft, 7 Su-25 aircraft (+1 SU-25 was captured in the LPR on July 7), 5 Su-24 aircraft, 4 drones, 18 combat helicopters (Mi-24, Mi-17 and Mi-8), 50 T-64 tanks, 7 T-72 tanks, 5 Hammers, a Jeep, 10 Gas-66, a headquarters vehicle, a truck crane, 17 Uralov, 14 Kamazov, 2 UAZ 469, 2 SAU-Nona, 1 anti-aircraft gun ZU 23-2, 4 MLRS GRAD, 6 MLRS Uragan, 12 howitzers D-30, 12 122 mm mortars, 36 infantry fighting vehicles, 35 BMD, 88 armored personnel carrier.
            http://www.rusdialog.ru/news/602_1405231873
            1. Spnsr
              Spnsr 14 July 2014 01: 47
              +1
              just talked about RUSSIA24, like about Alexey and Snow

              21: 38 / 13.07.2014
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              Militias destroyed a column of armored vehicles of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Snezhnoye
              Out of 30 pieces of equipment, only three vehicles survived that managed to leave the environment.

              The column of the Ukrainian military is surrounded and destroyed by DNR militias near the city of Snezhnoye, Donetsk region. The soldiers were driving armored vehicles and trucks to Alekseyevka. As a result of the battle, the armed forces of Ukraine lost 27 pieces of equipment.

              The information was confirmed to the publication “Ridus” by the commandant of Snezhnoy Evgeny Gorbik. According to him, they managed to encircle the convoy in the Marinovka area and destroy it with barrel artillery. Three cars managed to escape from the shelling zone, but at the turn one of them turned over.

              Earlier, a LifeNews correspondent reported from the Donetsk region that militias were evacuating residents from the city of Krasnogorovka. After a massive shelling, which was carried out by the Ukrainian military, residential buildings were destroyed in the city, two dead are known.

              In addition, today three militias were shot near Snezhny. They came under fire from a Ukrainian sabotage group in a forest belt near one of the militia checkpoints at the entrance to the city. Fire was fired from machine guns.

              http://lifenews.ru/news/136528
      2. mazhnikof.Niko
        mazhnikof.Niko 13 July 2014 18: 38
        +23
        Quote: herruvim
        Hang on guys !!! Good luck in battle and long life to you the defenders of the southeast!


        I also wanted to give advice, but I remembered that the guys are not up to the Internet! Guys in battle - I'm in the hut. I'm going to put a candle. All some good!
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      4. PRN
        PRN 13 July 2014 18: 43
        +40
        Hold on to Rusich, these are the last reserves of ukrofashists.

        So be it!
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 13 July 2014 20: 43
          +6
          Damn, thanks for the video !!! Especially for the music at the end !!! Well, I just love this kind of music !!! good
        2. i'm from the past
          i'm from the past 14 July 2014 00: 53
          +1
          a good collage, everything will be so. and melt what will happen at the MOH for the first time
      5. nycsson
        nycsson 13 July 2014 19: 40
        +6
        The daughter of the deceased man tells .....
        1. jaguar
          jaguar 13 July 2014 23: 42
          +2
          The Ukrainian side claims that from their side the shelling was not carried out. Maybe it’s worth it anyway ......... and then assure that no Iskanders have flown to the other side
          1. abc_02
            abc_02 14 July 2014 06: 48
            +4
            At one time, General Lebed in Pridnestrovie shot down planes during such flights, and then he said: "There were some unidentified planes flying here, they shot down a couple of times after they stopped flying!"
      6. typhoon7
        typhoon7 13 July 2014 21: 44
        +17
        The attack was repulsed, as far as I understood. Drying of the militia worked with these tanks, after which the Grady sort of worked. The column of armored vehicles of the fighters of Novorossiya, which today entered Lugansk, went exactly to the place of the breakthrough to close the gap, which they actually managed to do. Battles as in the formidable forties, dozens of tanks, Victory to you New Russia.
    2. portoc65
      portoc65 13 July 2014 17: 42
      +48
      70 tanks. Well, about 10 pieces will be burned. 15 pieces will be squeezed out by militias - the rest will go into strategic retreat
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      2. kodxnumx
        kodxnumx 13 July 2014 17: 57
        +15
        These summer days, the guys will decide whether or not New Russia will be needed! Now we need to put all our efforts into victory. I am sure RUSSIA will not stand aside, I think everyone in the world has understood that the Russians are not giving up their own, if we consider people and citizens not our own New Russia, I think everything that we can do for our victory, but we have a lot of strengths and opportunities, all the people of the Russian world, and this is 250.000.000. who can defeat such a force!
        1. vezunchik
          vezunchik 13 July 2014 20: 22
          +15
          The question is being solved - to be Russia or not to be !!!
          1. arane
            arane 13 July 2014 22: 52
            +6
            Russia to be anyway! But what to be - is not decided in Ukraine! Everything is much more complicated! There is a war ..... in Ukraine, civilian as a catalyst for the brutal information war against Russia. If we lose this war ...... then pros-m all! We will now enter the troops into Ukraine, they will surrender it to us, they will sing and surrender it. In response, we get complete isolation, such as Cuba! Just do not tell about the Chinese, they will exchange us for sales markets instantly. Like that all
            1. kergudu straight
              kergudu straight 13 July 2014 23: 16
              -3
              Quote: arane
              Russia to be anyway! But what to be - is not decided in Ukraine! Everything is much more complicated! There is a war ..... in Ukraine, civilian as a catalyst for the brutal information war against Russia. If we lose this war ...... then pros-m all! We will now enter the troops into Ukraine, they will surrender it to us, they will sing and surrender it. In response, we get complete isolation, such as Cuba! Just do not tell about the Chinese, they will exchange us for sales markets instantly. Like that all

              Yes, in addition to us, we will have to restore everything, feed, put on clothes and shoes, not a frail collar on the neck
            2. Bayun
              Bayun 14 July 2014 02: 29
              +2
              Our "businessmen" naively thought that in their first generation of robbers they would so easily partner with Western villains. And then - bam - "prize game" (For Ukraine) ... Rus, obviously - BE. Clowns are not a decree for us;)
          2. GRAMARI111
            GRAMARI111 14 July 2014 18: 28
            +1
            Yes, do not even worry
      3. 1812 1945
        1812 1945 13 July 2014 17: 59
        +13
        Quote: portoc65
        70 tanks. Well, about 10 pieces will be burned. 15 pieces will be squeezed out by militias - the rest will go into strategic retreat

        Good script. Great direction!
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 13 July 2014 20: 49
          +6
          What is great? the remaining 55 will do? Ask for push sala?
      4. portoc65
        portoc65 13 July 2014 18: 19
        0
        If the tanks are located in a heap, it would be nice to cover them with hail .. They will burn well. what
        1. dr.Bo
          dr.Bo 13 July 2014 19: 11
          +1
          Quote: portoc65
          If the tanks are located in a heap, it would be nice to cover them with hail .. They will burn well. what

          + detonation
          1. Junior, I
            Junior, I 13 July 2014 20: 31
            -1
            and also to put phosphoric so that they burn well.
            1. papik09
              papik09 14 July 2014 03: 15
              +1
              Quote: Younger, I
              and also to put phosphoric so that they burn well.

              Forbidden, but sorry ...
          2. Dmitry Toderes
            Dmitry Toderes 13 July 2014 22: 14
            +2
            Quote: dr.Bo
            Quote: portoc65
            If the tanks are located in a heap, it would be nice to cover them with hail .. They will burn well. what

            + detonation


            + trophy Drying (Su-25). She belonged to the Ukrainian army! And this means - she has a friend-or-foe identification system that issues it like a Ukrainian plane. laughing
            1. arane
              arane 13 July 2014 22: 55
              +2
              hell there, I think dill codes still change
              maybe they don’t use it ..... I don’t know
            2. abc_02
              abc_02 14 July 2014 06: 51
              +2
              It seems to me that there was no breakdown at this dryer. The pilot may have secured the family and then went to defend New Russia from the Nazis
        2. boris-1230
          boris-1230 13 July 2014 21: 06
          +4
          Already beaten by one hail, now the next turn! am
      5. portoc65
        portoc65 13 July 2014 18: 46
        +1
        If the tanks enter the city, they will be there forever and remain .. it's not in the field to fight
        1. saag
          saag 13 July 2014 19: 07
          +7
          Quote: portoc65
          If tanks enter the city

          They won’t enter, the same thing was said about Slavyansk, but they weren’t going to enter the city, there were bad dumb people
      6. g1v2
        g1v2 13 July 2014 18: 57
        +18
        And just dill from 700 to 2000 tanks in the ranks and in warehouses. Why what, and they have plenty of tanks. But if the militia will repel such forces, then I don’t know what dill to hope for. 70 tanks I don’t remember when the last time in one battle was used.
        1. muhomor
          muhomor 13 July 2014 19: 10
          +13
          In Chechnya in Grozny in 1995, the Maykop Brigade. They burned everything in three days!
        2. 77bob1973
          77bob1973 13 July 2014 19: 39
          +1
          It’s not clear with what support, if it’s just cavalry without infantry and artillery, it’s just that the Khokhlobands have been emptied and burned, on which side, why didn’t they reconnoitre such a rather large group of tanks?
          1. Amakc
            Amakc 14 July 2014 02: 09
            0
            Yes, they have been shown on TV for a long time, from the Ukropov TV company, the question of why they did not respond to them while they sucked lard in the halt ...
        3. Tor hummer
          Tor hummer 13 July 2014 22: 46
          0
          Quote: g1v2
          And just dill from 700 to 2000 tanks in the ranks and in warehouses. Why what, and they have plenty of tanks. But if the militia will repel such forces, then I don’t know what dill to hope for. 70 tanks I don’t remember when the last time in one battle was used.

          In the ranks of their 350 tanks approximately, another thousand in warehouses inoperative.
          And those on the go are also not so hot. So junk Soviet forty-year exposure.
          1. g1v2
            g1v2 13 July 2014 23: 31
            +2
            Well, in general, I took data from Ukrainian sources in the month of March. There they described their sun and cited data on 690 tanks in the ranks, of which 70-80 bulat, 10 strongholds, the remaining T64. It was also claimed that approximately 1100 tanks were stored, of which 600 t72 and 165 t80. The rest of the T64 and all junk type T55. In a recent article comparing the world's armies, ukrov was placed in 21st place and wrote that they already had 4000 tanks. Where does this figure come from xs, I can only assume that they added BMP and BMD, which in total are like 2500. And as for non-working tanks, they are being repaired in Kharkov and Lvov. On the other hand, the guys correctly wrote that it’s impossible to get crews for all this and most likely dill has a shortage of tankers.
          2. g1v2
            g1v2 13 July 2014 23: 31
            +1
            Well, in general, I took data from Ukrainian sources in the month of March. There they described their sun and cited data on 690 tanks in the ranks, of which 70-80 bulat, 10 strongholds, the remaining T64. It was also claimed that approximately 1100 tanks were stored, of which 600 t72 and 165 t80. The rest of the T64 and all junk type T55. In a recent article comparing the world's armies, ukrov was placed in 21st place and wrote that they already had 4000 tanks. Where does this figure come from xs, I can only assume that they added BMP and BMD, which in total are like 2500. And as for non-working tanks, they are being repaired in Kharkov and Lvov. On the other hand, the guys correctly wrote that it’s impossible to get crews for all this and most likely dill has a shortage of tankers.
      7. Arberes
        Arberes 13 July 2014 19: 24
        +4
        Quote: portoc65
        70 tanks. Well, about 10 pieces will be burned. 15 pieces will be squeezed out by militias - the rest will go into strategic retreat

        I want to express my thought! To keep such an armada of armored vehicles will help attack aircraft! One SU-25 among the militia fighters is already at work! I would like to believe that there are still a couple of next SU-25-trophy estessvens on the approach and with the pilots who switched to the DPR side!
        1. kergudu straight
          kergudu straight 13 July 2014 19: 38
          +13
          It would not be bad to iron a couple of dozen su 25s with one number to a lunar landscape Piggy and to the song "Get Up Country Huge" Russia can miss such a chance to get even for the embassy, ​​Odessa, shelling and murder of civilians can miss
      8. Spike
        Spike 13 July 2014 20: 41
        +1
        God grant !!!!!!!!!!!!!
      9. Paradoxov
        Paradoxov 13 July 2014 23: 02
        +2
        Is it about these "70 tanks" in the latest reports from the LPR, DPR?

        Lugansk. According to the information we verify, a partial control over the airport has been established. (We are waiting for confirmation from the headquarters).

        Well on repulsed tank attack in the area of ​​Metallist (suburb of Lugansk) all already reported. Just why are they silent about the fact that the ARMOR OF THE MILITARY FELLOWS WAS GOING TO THE KONTRAKTAK?
        ...
        In the battalion "Vostok", defending Karlovka, they found another effective means of fighting Ukrainian tanks in the form of a heavy machine gun "Utes".
        From this weapon with a 12,7 mm caliber, the machine gunner Maxim with the call sign "Amper" shot down two Ukrainian T-64 tanks in Karlovka.
        “The tanks came out of the bend and started hitting them with direct fire. I immediately began to iron them with armor-piercing bullets of 12,7 caliber from the“ Cliff. ”One started to smoke and left to the right, the second stopped and started shooting, the shells flew past, I fired at The tank started to smoke and after 5 minutes there was an explosion of ammunition, it is still in the "green", "- said the details of the battle" Amper "
        ...
        In Donetsk, the militia again shelled the airport from all calibres.

        In Marinovka, Donbas artillery attacked a column of APU from 30 armor and trucks. Eyewitnesses claim destruction from 10 to 20 and more junta combat vehicles. "
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        2. Paradoxov
          Paradoxov 13 July 2014 23: 21
          +1
          Roundup of New Russia (DPR, LPR) July 13, 2014
          1. Paradoxov
            Paradoxov 14 July 2014 00: 48
            +1
            If all this is confirmed and ends according to the plan of the militias, tomorrow we will find out about the next failure of the dill blitzkrieg, pah 3 times!

            Latest reports from novorosinform:

            Luhansk. There is a hard shelling. Aviation and DRG are used. Our airport. The assault columns of the militia are developing an offensive towards the city of Schastye. "

            22:30 (Moscow time) At the same time as the tank attack in the north - in the area of ​​Metallist (a suburb of Lugansk), the Ukrainians launched another tank attack in the south. Due to inconsistency, the southern group only now (around 23:30) approached the village. Luxurious. Now ours will also extinguish them.
            Fighting continues in the area of ​​Saur-Grave, Marinovka and Torez-ukrov aviation flew, our anti-aircraft gunners fired at it.

            To Zelenopol, Ukrainians sent reinforcements to release the survivors. On a column in the Dyakovo area opened fire. There are also fights in the Ural-Caucasus region, Porechye. Goncharovka. Now there is a battle in the village. Luxurious, which included tanks ukrov. To make it clear - from Luxurious to the airfield about 15 kilometers.

            Militia artillery is beating up on the coming Ukram from Metalist (a suburb of Lugansk).
            In the vicinity of the airport of Lugansk - a strong fire. Either they hit the fuel storage, or the fields in Vidnoe burn.

            In the Red Guerrilla destroy another column of ukrov.
        3. just exp
          just exp 14 July 2014 19: 39
          0
          yes, I don’t believe that a tank would be knocked out of a machine gun, I understand even if I set fire to the hinged fuel tanks, but I wouldn’t believe that the BC would explode.
          1. Cynic
            Cynic 14 July 2014 20: 39
            +1
            Quote: just explo
            Come on

            Themselves wrote _
            Quote: just explo
            I understand even if the hinged fuel tanks were set on fire

            and there in both cases _
            Quote: Paradoxov
            smoke

            PPO service requires, although in general they know about it?
            hi
    3. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 13 July 2014 17: 43
      +41
      13.07.14/XNUMX/XNUMX Information from Bezler on downed aircraft

      "On DRY, in Gorlovka. There were 3 planes, 1 civilian and 2 DRY. 1 DRY, having received a gorgeous pendal in the tail, went into a spin and so successfully pounded between Zaitsevo and Artemovsk. wrapped in clouds of smoke, landed somewhere in the area of ​​Debaltsevo. Unfortunately, the civilian dumped under the noise.
      Apparently, Sushki accompanied a civilian plane with some kind of junta-niche. It’s even interesting who flew in it.

      1. thinking
        thinking 13 July 2014 17: 50
        0
        And they are talking about pashutists with us, what’s the matter with them?
      2. portoc65
        portoc65 13 July 2014 18: 15
        -1
        Where did Kiev get Apache?
        1. saag
          saag 13 July 2014 18: 22
          +34
          Quote: portoc65
          Where did Kiev get Apache?

          from the manufacturer
          1. portoc65
            portoc65 13 July 2014 18: 35
            +17
            So what do they whine that Russia delivers to them if they pack themselves from mercenaries to Apaches .. Well, it's not fair. Look South Ossetia recognized New Russia .. And as a friendly state, it can lend a division of Black Sharks or even Night Hunters .. Russia there shouldn’t be a stink, it’s as if there would be nothing to do with it — these are the internal affairs of 2 sovereign states that recognized each other .. what
            1. Paradoxov
              Paradoxov 13 July 2014 18: 42
              +7
              In addition, South Ossetia has a dozen air defense systems with specialists ... it’s time to help!
              1. Egoza
                Egoza 13 July 2014 19: 14
                +9
                Quote: Paradoxov
                it's time to help!

                Yes, first of all, in the brain at least once to give !!!
                Just!!!

                Seven shells hit the territory of the city of Donetsk in the Rostov region from Ukraine, one of them, presumably, did not explode, Vadim Artemov, deputy governor of the Rostov region, told RIA Novosti.

                On Sunday morning, the city of Donetsk, Rostov region, was fired on by high-explosive shells from Ukraine. As a result of a shell hit in a residential building, one Russian citizen was killed, two were seriously injured, and a criminal case was opened. The Charge d'Affaires of Ukraine to the Russian Federation in connection with the shelling of Russian territory was summoned to the Russian Foreign Ministry, where they expressed a strong protest to him, stressing that the incident "could have irreversible consequences."

                "A total of seven shells were hit. One of them is now in the territory of a private house, presumably, it did not explode, it is being investigated by explosives experts," the source said.



                He added that the shells had damaged the gas pipe, as well as broken electric wires. According to Artemov, one person died, another woman was hospitalized. Her daughter was injured in a leg from broken glass.



                Donetsk is a city of regional subordination in the Rostov region, the population is 49 thousand people. The city has a checkpoint across the state border with Ukraine ("Donetsk-Izvarino"). Recently, there have been several incidents of shelling at border checkpoints. In July, shelling of Russian territory became more frequent: on July 3, they again fired at the Novoshakhtinsk checkpoint, and the next day, at the Donetsk checkpoint, bomb technicians and investigators were fired from mortar fire, who arrived to clear the shell. On July XNUMX, about ten ammunition exploded at the same checkpoint and near it.


                Source: RIA News.
                1. fox21h
                  fox21h 13 July 2014 23: 17
                  +4
                  It is time for our military to carry out a demonstration flogging, after the next shelling, to raise 3-4 links of helicopters and clean out that area, I think there are pictures from the satellite, and it’s not for nothing that I’ve scouted my bread, rolled it up so to speak, and dill yell dump the houndswink
            2. mazhnikof.Niko
              mazhnikof.Niko 13 July 2014 18: 55
              +9
              Quote: portoc65
              There shouldn’t be a stink of Russia, it’s as if there would be nothing to do with it — these are the internal affairs of two sovereign states that recognized each other ..


              Comrade Marshal, with all due respect! Your plan is undoubtedly cunning, but only if Obama is in your direct mediation. You give him an order to act within the framework of international law, and then the Russian Federation, thanks to cunning plans, will confuse the United States and, of course, will win! But, while, alas, not OUR plans are fighting there, but volunteer militias! We, not even the General Staff of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation .... WE can only pray for the guys ...
              1. portoc65
                portoc65 13 July 2014 19: 04
                -1
                honestly true? well then okay .. agree soldier
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            4. saag
              saag 13 July 2014 19: 10
              +7
              With the same success, you can remove the IL-2 from the pedestals, restore it in Omsk and put into action, its engine has a compression ratio of about 6 you can pour any low-octane gasoline :-)
              1. Revolver
                Revolver 13 July 2014 19: 50
                +1
                Quote: saag
                With the same success, you can remove the IL-2 from the pedestals, restore it in Omsk and put into action, its engine has a compression ratio of about 6 you can pour any low-octane gasoline :-)

                And where to get the shells for ShVAK? Yes, and ShKAS requires special cartridges, on ordinary rifle 7,62 wedges. Although ... maybe there are craftsmen to adapt the four-thread more modern like GSh-23, and instead of ShKAS "Utes" - the rate of fire is not the same, but the caliber is more.
                1. saag
                  saag 13 July 2014 20: 03
                  0
                  Yes, you don’t need ShVAK and ShKAS, a couple of pieces are hung on the UPK-23-250 suspension, a small revision for current needs
                  1. not main
                    not main 13 July 2014 23: 03
                    +1
                    Quote: saag
                    Yes, you don’t need ShVAK and ShKAS, a couple of pieces are hung on the UPK-23-250 suspension, a small revision for current needs

                    Only one problem IL-2 has no suspension points. In the modern sense.
              2. Nikolaevich I
                Nikolaevich I 14 July 2014 00: 27
                +1
                Quote: saag
                With the same success can be removed from the IL-2 pedestals, restored in Omsk and put into operation, his

                What kind of nonsense?
            5. Dmitry Toderes
              Dmitry Toderes 13 July 2014 22: 22
              +1
              Quote: portoc65
              So what do they whine that Russia delivers to them if they pack themselves from mercenaries to Apaches .. Well, it's not fair. Look South Ossetia recognized New Russia .. And as a friendly state, it can lend a division of Black Sharks or even Night Hunters .. Russia there shouldn’t be a stink, it’s as if there would be nothing to do with it — these are the internal affairs of 2 sovereign states that recognized each other .. what


              Right! Let Russia give these Sharks to South Ossetia, and she will decide that the Sharks are more necessary than New Russia and will hand them over to drive.
          2. dr.Bo
            dr.Bo 13 July 2014 19: 14
            +4
            Quote: saag
            Quote: portoc65
            Where did Kiev get Apache?

            from the manufacturer

            If ours will prove to the world that p-Indos help the Krops with weapons, then our hands are untied to help the militia, weapons!
            bully hi
            1. the polar
              the polar 13 July 2014 19: 52
              +23
              Quote: dr.Bo
              Quote: saag
              Quote: portoc65
              Where did Kiev get Apache?

              from the manufacturer

              If ours will prove to the world that p-Indos help the Krops with weapons, then our hands are untied to help the militia, weapons!
              bully hi

              The world is deeply us ... to any evidence. Strengths, not lawyers, win in world politics.
              Always a strong state is right, and a weak one, with a lawyer bias, will always be abused and humiliated by sanctions.
            2. max702
              max702 13 July 2014 19: 58
              +17
              Well, they will continue to prove what? Tell me, what are the possible actions after this? To supply weapons, specialists and so on? WELL, WHAT IS STOPPING TO DO THIS NOW ??? Or do you think that the West, covered with blush and shuffling its feet, recognizes that we are guilty, so do what you want, we will not object ... Yes, even all this evidence, no one will notice .. There were never any of them all these are notions of quilted jackets and Colorado ... All the dew of God is in their eyes! They need to nod their heads about inadmissibility and so on blah blah blah .. And they themselves push on all fronts to beat without hesitation or anything, That the layer in KIEV was blown up? Ay yayay .. Who could do that? Are the delegations missing? What is happening .. Iskander flew to the Paroshenko's residence .. What a horror .. And stuff like that .. True, the forces of the Strategic Missile Forces and other parts of the nuclear triad must be brought to a state of alert and must be notified to the "partners".
            3. domiemon
              domiemon 13 July 2014 22: 35
              +1
              If Apache, then the pilots must be regular. They wouldn’t have time to retrain the Ukrainians. Most likely desa, because source of information from the OBS series
          3. Revolver
            Revolver 13 July 2014 19: 38
            +6
            Quote: saag
            Quote: portoc65
            Where did Kiev get Apache?

            from the manufacturer

            Well, this is understandable - not the very ykry themselves at Zaporizhzhya Automobile were slap on the basis of ZAZ-965 lol
            But who drives the Apaches? Tea is not Zaporozhets, although you even need to learn to drive it, especially Apache.
            1. saag
              saag 13 July 2014 20: 06
              +3
              Quote: Nagan
              But who drives the Apaches?

              well, also imported
          4. Arberes
            Arberes 13 July 2014 19: 51
            +6
            Quote: portoc65
            Where did Kiev get Apache?


            Quote: saag
            from the manufacturer

            Shitty if it's true? Apache is a serious argument against armored vehicles. The anti-tank complex working on the principle of-shot and forgot! High-precision missiles and what is most annoying with these weapons, it may not be included in the affected area of ​​the MANPADS of the Donetsk Army.
            If I'm wrong, the special pilots correct me, honestly I will be easier on my soul!
          5. Dmitry Toderes
            Dmitry Toderes 13 July 2014 22: 20
            +1
            Quote: saag
            Quote: portoc65
            Where did Kiev get Apache?

            from the manufacturer


            Fuck! A.M.E.r.k.a.sh.k.i decided to write off the old equipment. And they have a lot of this technique. Pancake. That's what, and I thought that dill was on its last legs, and they were fully supplied - even the Apaches drove the cattle.
        2. nycsson
          nycsson 13 July 2014 18: 43
          +3
          Quote: portoc65
          Where did Kiev get Apache?

          Obama sent in the package ......
          1. portoc65
            portoc65 13 July 2014 18: 49
            +3
            Apaches need to learn to fly .. or mercenaries if they are true ... or the flyers were trained in the states ... probably this is a fake .. I can’t believe it ... although ... everything can be ..
            1. suomi76
              suomi76 13 July 2014 19: 13
              +4
              But I can’t believe that you run a dozen times a day, and even an hour in the gym, because you had one break per hour today, and with such physical exertion you still have to. and you are already gone.
              Purely theoretically, you can write on the run, but when weights it is unlikely.
          2. Silkway0026
            Silkway0026 13 July 2014 22: 56
            +1
            Finally, the Americans will send it, but then they will invoice the invoice for the Apache, destroyed by the militias. (Why, it’s nice to attach illiquid assets)

            And then, who said that this is a super-wunderwafer? The Americans normally everything burns and falls, both visible and invisible. So let's see.
      3. Paradoxov
        Paradoxov 13 July 2014 18: 31
        +13
        from Jan:
        UPD 1: I remind you that two dryers were shot down today: one in the area between Zaitsevo and Artemvovsk, the second - Debaltseve, and now (18:00 Moscow time) information has arrived on the third shot down drying near Lugansk (now they will be double-checked).
        1. boris-1230
          boris-1230 13 July 2014 21: 13
          0
          With the world on a string - juntas on the shroud! am
      4. boozer
        boozer 13 July 2014 18: 36
        0
        On a civilian campaign, a parashenka flew to football in Brazil!
      5. portoc65
        portoc65 13 July 2014 19: 02
        +9
        Two former chiefs of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Russia shared their views with the newspaper VIEW on a possible peacekeeping operation of the Russian troops in Ukraine. A number of other retired military men believe that the Ukrainian army will not offer serious resistance, but Russia should not interfere in what is happening anyway.

        Ex-chief of intelligence of the Ministry of Defense group in Chechnya, retired Major General Sergei Kanchukov explained to the VIEW newspaper that in order to block the Donbass from militant attacks, only four units would be needed: two or three special forces brigades (GRU special forces, polite people). ) to block the offensive of the Kiev forces and one or two motorized rifle brigades to create a protected perimeter around the protected areas.

        “We do not mean the conduct of hostilities, but only a peacekeeping operation. Therefore, there will be enough special operations forces — special operations brigades. These are people on the same “Tigers” and motorized rifle formations on armored personnel carriers or airborne troops attached to them. Plus, air support by helicopters, means of the FBS Border Guard Service to control the administrative border, and internal troops to maintain security on the territory will be required. And the local self-defense forces, together with the local Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Donbass people's militia and other power structures of Donetsk and Lugansk regions, should disarm the Right Sector and all other militants, ”the former intelligence chief explained.

        According to him, all of the listed units are ready to start the combat mission within an hour after the order, and to complete it within a few hours. “In a few hours you can block everything - helicopters land an air force, block all the main directions of roadblocks. After that comes the infantry. Disarmament is carried out by militia forces. It is enough to set up roadblocks, and then they operate with the support of the Russian troops - that is, the militias carry out, and the Russian troops only cover and support, ”Kanchukov described a possible scenario for sending troops.

        He also expressed confidence that the Ukrainian units in the event of such a development of events will not offer resistance and even switch to their side. “The Ukrainian Armed Forces will surrender in places of permanent deployment and will not resist the peacekeeping forces. In case of resistance, adequate measures are taken, ”the major general suggested.
        1. max702
          max702 14 July 2014 01: 00
          +3
          More details about ADEQUATE measures .. What will we do if tanks, artillery, ATGMs start shooting at Tigers, armored personnel carriers, at the checkpoints, hail and other heavy equipment? How long will they be applied? And what will it look like? And most importantly, how many of our soldiers will die by this time .. I'll tell you straight to me it reminds me of "Grozny with one airborne regiment" ..
      6. old man
        old man 13 July 2014 20: 20
        +2
        Parashka flew home. It's a pity they didn’t get it.
    4. armageddon
      armageddon 13 July 2014 17: 56
      +18
      NO OPTIONS ... NAZIS DESTROY Without pity and regret !!! If the enemy does not surrender, IT WILL BE DESTROYED !!!
    5. ℳy ℒiƒℯ
      ℳy ℒiƒℯ 13 July 2014 18: 03
      +11
      Not well, I refuse to believe it. This is just some kind of madness. And someone else said, "Let them try to stick their heads in Crimea." Oh well.

      The shelling of Russian territory from Ukraine may have irreversible consequences, the responsibility for which will fall on the Ukrainian side, the statement said. The ministry also called what happened in Rostov Donetsk a provocation and another aggressive act.

      The Ukrainian attorney in Russia was summoned to the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, where a strong protest was expressed to him.

      According to preliminary data, one person died, two were injured as a result of a landmine issued by Ukraine entering a residential building in the city of Donetsk in the Rostov Region, a law enforcement source told RIA Novosti.

      According to a source, in Donetsk in the territory of the Russian Federation several landmines fell arriving from Ukraine, one of them got into a residential building. “According to preliminary data, one person died and two were injured. These are civilians, ”the source said.


      http://ria.ru/politics/20140713/1015746088.html
      1. mamont5
        mamont5 13 July 2014 18: 24
        +8
        Quote: ℳy ℒiƒℯ
        And someone else said, "Let them try to stick their heads in Crimea." Oh well.


        So the Ukrainians again say that "I am not me and the horse is not mine, and I am not a cab."
      2. sabakina
        sabakina 13 July 2014 21: 01
        +2
        Comrade, how much do you know about diplomacy?
        R.S. It would be interesting to watch the Apache / KA-50 battle ...
        1. kergudu straight
          kergudu straight 13 July 2014 21: 20
          +4
          Canada installed Apaches, but who will be sitting at the helm, what kind of cock?
    6. Dimka off
      Dimka off 13 July 2014 18: 11
      +1
      wow now he will give a "bipod man" in the ears smile
      Everything for the front, everything for the Victory!
    7. Duke
      Duke 13 July 2014 18: 12
      +25
      Bulletins from Strelkova Igor Ivanovich
      13.07.14. 17: 44 Message from Strelkov Igor Ivanovich.

      “A bad soldier is frolicking at the airport. He has an“ airport cancellation month. ”According to reports, last night another airport ran from 50 to 70 people. Four wounded soldiers were captured.”
      1. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 13 July 2014 18: 16
        +10
        Quote: Duke
        Bulletins from Strelkova Igor Ivanovich
        13.07.14. 17: 44 Message from Strelkov Igor Ivanovich.

        “A bad soldier is frolicking at the airport. He has an“ airport cancellation month. ”According to reports, last night another airport ran from 50 to 70 people. Four wounded soldiers were captured.”

        And yesterday 300 surrendered.
        1. Roman 11
          Roman 11 13 July 2014 18: 39
          +6
          There was information that they rode away, not surrendered.
        2. g1v2
          g1v2 13 July 2014 19: 03
          +1
          Surrendered or fled?
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    8. ele1285
      ele1285 13 July 2014 18: 16
      0
      Quote: lelikas
      Hold on men

      Where does dill have so many tanks from? Armor may be there, but there are no crews for sure. The shooter, as always, beat the enemy’s info, and then the winner. Honor to him and praise for this.
      1. jonh
        jonh 13 July 2014 19: 36
        -5
        Yeah, some victories. But in fact, everything is already in Donetsk and Lugansk squeezed. I can also write different kinds of reports
    9. 3vs
      3vs 13 July 2014 18: 37
      +3
      Russian savvy!
    10. nycsson
      nycsson 13 July 2014 18: 42
      +2
      Here is the video in the topic!
    11. Mayer1980
      Mayer1980 13 July 2014 18: 56
      +5
      Babai merged or something ?? how to understand?

      Bulletins from Strelkova Igor Ivanovich
      Today in 18: 22
      13.07.14. 18: 14 Message from Strelkov Igor Ivanovich.

      “The enemy really doesn’t have enough forces to attack and defend EVERYWHERE. But he concentrated his strike forces near Luhansk and quite successfully“ ram ”the weak combat formations of the militia. So far, the initiative is entirely in the hands of the Ukrainians. The militia has no forces to go on the offensive. Not yet.

      Babay is alive and well. Deserted together with most of the "Crimean Cossacks" immediately after leaving Kramatorsk. At first they refused to obey the order and go to Donetsk (they “held a meeting” for a long time and “puffed up”: like “we will not leave the city!”), And then suddenly they all broke down at once and “found” at the very border. They gave the honor to further defend Novorossiya to local militias and those of their fellow volunteers who are guided by the concept of "military discipline" so hated by the modern "Cossacks"
      1. Anper
        Anper 13 July 2014 19: 27
        +3
        Quote: Mayer1980
        Babay is alive and well. Deserted together with most of the "Crimean Cossacks" immediately after leaving Kramatorsk. At first they refused to obey the order and go to Donetsk (they “held a meeting” for a long time and “puffed up”: like “we will not leave the city!”), And then suddenly they all broke down at once and “found” at the very border. They gave the honor to further defend Novorossiya to local militias and those of their fellow volunteers who are guided by the concept of "military discipline" so hated by the modern "Cossacks"

        1. Mayer1980
          Mayer1980 13 July 2014 20: 17
          0
          http://rusvesna.su/news/1405264477 Стрелков говорит что Бабай в Россию вернулся
          1. rf xnumx
            rf xnumx 13 July 2014 22: 22
            0
            Quote: Mayer1980
            Strelkov says that Babai returned to Russia

    12. cosmos132
      cosmos132 13 July 2014 19: 07
      +1
      Is it that Alexander from PTR shoots at air targets?
    13. nycsson
      nycsson 13 July 2014 19: 36
      0
      The shelling of Donetsk, Rostov region ....
    14. Giant thought
      Giant thought 13 July 2014 20: 15
      0
      That's where our attack aircraft and attack helicopters are needed.
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    16. Rus2012
      Rus2012 13 July 2014 20: 16
      +2
      Quote: lelikas
      Does the army still have helicopters?

      dill on ... they have Apaches already in use -
      Igor Strelkov: the enemy threw into battle near Lugansk about 70 tanks, 4 anti-tank helicopter Apache deployed to New Russia


      and further -
      Strelkov: The goal of Kiev is to draw Russia into the war with Ukraine

      The commander of the militia of the DNI said that the leaders of the punitive operation use any means of provocation.

      Igor Strelkov, commander of the militia of the Donetsk People’s Republic, is confident that Kiev is ready for anything to drag Russia into a military conflict in southeastern Ukraine. With this motive of politicians, Strelkov explained the shelling of the city of Donetsk, Rostov Region, where in the morning of July 13 a local resident was killed and four people were injured.


      So, everyone will have to put on their greatcoats and tighten their belts ...
      1. Rus2012
        Rus2012 13 July 2014 20: 32
        +3
        Quote: Rus2012
        So, everyone will have to put on their greatcoats and tighten their belts ...


        Lugansk: the tank attack is repelled, there are battles on the outskirts, enemy artillery hits the city
        Lugansk, intense fighting continues in the suburbs.

        Aleksandrovsk and Metalist

        Punitive detachments of Ukrainian troops in armored vehicles decided to attack the suburbs of Lugansk - Aleksandrovsk. Metalist village is under fire, but not taken by the enemy.

        The militants of the National Guard and AFU units are trying with their last forces to break through the defense of the militias where they did not have time to dig in deep. They are trying to prevent the militia from consolidating success by destroying the Southern Group, seizing the Airport and seizing Happiness.

        http://rusvesna.su/news/1405268260
        1. Rus2012
          Rus2012 13 July 2014 23: 00
          +1
          and meanwhile, Babai will return to New Russia -
          Babai promises to return from Russia with a detachment of volunteers (Video)
          The well-known defender of Slavyansk and Kramatorsk, a field commander with the call sign “Babai”, made a collective video message from the Terek Cossack Army to the male population of Russia.

          It appears from the appeal that Babai does not intend to remain in Russia, but wants to return to New Russia with fresh strength.

          Recall that Igor Strelkov commented on the situation with the disappearance of Babai. In particular, Strelkov said that the Cossack detachments defending Kramatorsk at first refused to carry out the order to retreat from the city, and then "deserted" towards the Russian border. Igor Ivanovich was skeptical of similar Cossack liberties that violate army discipline.

          By publishing a comment by the commander-in-chief, Russian Spring expressed the hope that Babai would “repent” and return to duty.
          Obviously, this hope is beginning to come true.


    17. vladstro
      vladstro 13 July 2014 20: 41
      +17
      Here the comrade on YouTube made a speech, probably correctly, although we have nothing to bend under the Americans: I will decrypt. It is necessary that Novorossia fought off the Galician bastard on its own, without official assistance from Russia. Russian volunteers? Please - in which war there are no volunteers from other countries? An underground supply of equipment by third parties unrelated to the Russian authorities? Please (who doesn’t do this? S? I beg you!). Well, etc.

      Otherwise, if you do not do this and allow yourself to get involved in a war of liberation, then the outcome of this war is already known in advance: a generation will pass, maybe two - and among these same New Russians there will always be a grown-up national bydlyak who, without blinking an eye at us, will be declared invaders.

      What, haven’t we already heard this from the Bulgarians who were really saved the whole century before last from the Turks? And what, they were very grateful to us for this already in 1941, when they took the side of Hitler? Didn’t we already hear this from the Ukrainians, who first built Soviet power with us with unprecedented zeal, glittering in the heels in front of the steam engine, and then not even a bit blushing blamed us for the famine and all possible and impossible sins that they committed with us ( and sometimes on their own initiative, without asking anyone)?

      Or maybe we are grateful to the Georgians who themselves asked us for protection from the Turks and who we knew to be equal to our nobility, opening all the ways and roads to it in the Russian Empire, but subsequently, when their relatives drove millions of Slavs into the Gulag, and practically didn’t touching the Georgians themselves - what did we hear from them after that? It is true that we are occupiers, and they are white and fluffy and, as it were, completely out of business.

      Or maybe we are now very grateful to the Poles, who no longer know how many years they have been yelling about the Soviet occupation and genocide, having completely forgotten that if Hitler had won then the Polish nation would have ceased to exist by definition; like any Incas or Aztecs.
      Therefore, whatever one may say, but we still saved their filthy asses from death, and the least that they could thank us for their saved lives is just to shut up. But they are not silent. They have already equated us with the Nazis and are sleeping and seeing how to advance in their hysteria even further and deeper. Well, etc. etc.

      Therefore, Putin decided not to repeat the mistakes of the past, apparently clearly having learned one inhuman, but surprisingly true proverb: do not do good to people, so as not to receive evil in return.
      Let them fight themselves. Let them finally climb out of their mines and huts, which I will always hide and finally stand up for themselves and their land. After all, there are hundreds of thousands of them, humiliated and insulted, but not wanting to do a damn for their own salvation, but only menacingly moving their mustaches and nods at the camera and threatening Kiev with empty words. Let yourself and your dignity stand apart - only then can we and should we help them. But not before.
      1. Nagaibak
        Nagaibak 13 July 2014 21: 20
        +8
        Vladimir Stro only menacingly wiggling their mustaches and nodules at the camera and threatening Kiev with empty words. Let them stand up for themselves and their dignity - only then we can and will have to help them. But not earlier. "
        I can agree on something with you. Like let yourself, etc.)))
        Just do not equate them with the Poles and Bulgarians, Georgians. These are Russian people. And Russian-speaking Ukrainians, which, in principle, are the same Russian. And then you are looking Vladislav from the suburbs and us Siberians in the Poles determine? If you do not know then in the territory of New Russia about 20 million Russian-speaking people live. There are always few volunteers in a civil war. Who is ready to tear your ass and go to war. And so behind the clavs we are all heroes.))) And they need to be helped unconditionally with weapons and volunteers and funding. Our state should be engaged in this first of all and no one will be shy. I’m not saying that it is necessary to send troops, now it’s rather harmful for our country.
        1. vladstro
          vladstro 14 July 2014 02: 06
          +2
          I agree with you, but the Borussians were partisan, the Russians were fighting, and why then the miners declared that they would tear everyone, here I do not understand.
    18. Mayer1980
      Mayer1980 13 July 2014 20: 51
      +9
      The tank attack is repelled, battles continue

      According to information from the militia, the tank attack on Lugansk was repelled, the breakthrough into the city of two Ukrainian armored groups consisting of 70 and 40 tanks was stopped from the village of Metallist. Now there is an attempt to break through the defense of the militias on the other hand, there are positional battles. The militia is actively using ATGMs and 100 mm. BS-3 and Rapier anti-tank guns. Explosions of mortar shells are heard. There is no information about the losses of the parties. Eyewitnesses report several burning APU tanks. ”
    19. Spnsr
      Spnsr 13 July 2014 20: 56
      +5
      Lugansk: the tank attack was repelled, there are battles on the outskirts, the artillery of the enemy hits the city (photo / video)
      Lugansk: the tank attack was repelled, there are battles on the outskirts, the artillery of the enemy hits the city (photo / video) | Russian spring

      Lugansk, intense fighting continues in the suburbs.

      Aleksandrovsk and Metalist

      Punitive detachments of Ukrainian troops in armored vehicles decided to attack the suburbs of Lugansk - Aleksandrovsk. Metalist village is under fire, but not taken by the enemy.

      The militants of the National Guard and AFU units are trying with their last forces to break through the defense of the militias where they did not have time to dig in deep. They are trying to prevent the militia from consolidating success by destroying the Southern Group, seizing the Airport and seizing Happiness.

      In the afternoon, during the assault on the village of Metallist, junta soldiers blew up a mine. According to the Ukrainian side, as a result, 3 soldiers died and two were injured.

      According to the militia, an evening attack is nothing more than a way to delay time in order to strengthen weak positions in Happiness. http://rusvesna.su/news/1405268260
      1. Spnsr
        Spnsr 14 July 2014 00: 21
        0
        July 13 afternoon digest: Punishers enter Sabovka | Russian spring

        The enemy made an attempt to bypass Lugansk from the west, breaking through to the suburb of Luxurious. However, according to the latest information, artillery that was mobilely advanced towards it was repelled by fire (there is evidence that Grad multiple launch rocket launchers were used)

        In the afternoon, sabotage groups of the Ukrainian army continued to work in Lugansk. At about 15 p.m. a mortar attack was launched in the southern district of the city, school N00, kindergarten, and facades of residential buildings were badly damaged. A woman died at school.

        Approximately in 19: 30 from the Kamennobrodsky region began mortar shelling of the area adjacent to the location of the Zarya battalion.

        In 19: 50 over Alchevsk two aircraft of the Ukrainian Air Force were seen, which were heading for Lugansk.

        A few hours earlier, the enemy struck an air strike at the LPR checkpoint in the area of ​​the Yubileiny settlement, without losses and injuries from personnel.

        The enemy continued the maneuver begun at the beginning of the day, cutting off Lugansk from the south-west. Ukrainian troops entered Sabovka. Heavy fighting took place in Rodakovo.

        Then a large column split, one part continued to encircle the city, trying to occupy the dominant heights, the other, consisting of about a hundred pieces of equipment, including tanks and self-propelled guns, headed for Lugansk airport.

        Eyewitnesses report that the following incident occurred in Georgievka: the National Guard guards shot and killed a 6-year-old child, whether by accident or on purpose, is still unknown. After that, local residents shot and killed about fifteen National Guard with hunting rifles and other small arms and left the village. Now local
        http://rusvesna.su/news/1405282242
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    20. boris-1230
      boris-1230 13 July 2014 20: 59
      +1
      This is the so-called self-propelled gun! Goal for fiction is cunning! good
    21. seregatara1969
      seregatara1969 13 July 2014 23: 29
      0
      mobile anti-aircraft gun
    22. Atanda
      Atanda 14 July 2014 16: 31
      +1
      Death to the banderlog!
  2. 51064
    51064 13 July 2014 17: 38
    +7
    Isn't this a fake about 70 tanks on Sunday evening?
    1. tomket
      tomket 13 July 2014 17: 43
      +9
      yes it seems no, according to rtr 24 they said the same thing, only up to 90 units of armored vehicles, in response, the militias put forward 20 tanks.
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 13 July 2014 17: 56
      +10
      No, it’s transferred to the tip from the fields under the 1 Guards. tank brigade on Bulaty. Last real reserve. They took Sabovka already 7 km to Lugansk and a straight cross through the tresses connecting Lugansk and Donetsk.
      1. tomket
        tomket 13 July 2014 18: 00
        +1
        And "Oploty" in the Ukrainian army is a myth ???
        1. donavi49
          donavi49 13 July 2014 18: 05
          +13
          5 pieces that could be requisitioned had already been sent to Thailand, when Maidan had already won, but Kharkovites had time.

          1 thing is an experienced board and it is not combat ready, or rather combat ready, but at a level when the battles for Kharkov will begin and the monuments will have to be revived.

          The rest are under construction.
          1. Dimka off
            Dimka off 13 July 2014 18: 14
            +8
            Quote: donavi49
            The rest are under construction.

            the militia needs to wring out the Kharkov tank and make tanks for itself. But, I think, soon it will be so
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          2. svp67
            svp67 13 July 2014 18: 36
            +3
            Quote: donavi49
            The rest are under construction.

            And the first, "front ten" "Oplotov", they are in the 1st brigade in service and stand ...
      2. ele1285
        ele1285 13 July 2014 18: 30
        +1
        experts, tell me how many main, heavy tanks in the brigade? can you have a beer drunk?
        1. donavi49
          donavi49 13 July 2014 18: 38
          +11
          In 1 Guards select 62 Bulat + baht on BV + baht on BMP-2.

          In mechanized brigades on the 1 tank battalion and 2 on the BMP.

          In total in the anti-terrorist operation zone to 250 tanks were concentrated already.
          1. g1v2
            g1v2 13 July 2014 19: 07
            0
            And how many, and even the numbers vary - from 600 to 2000 thousand?
            1. Orik
              Orik 13 July 2014 20: 08
              +3
              Quote: g1v2
              And how many, and even the numbers vary - from 600 to 2000 thousand?

              From the USSR, 2246 T-64 tanks were acquired, and how many on the go ... 250 a figure similar to the truth. By the way, Russia got T-64 2200 pieces, parity is easily achievable. wink
          2. g1v2
            g1v2 13 July 2014 19: 07
            +1
            And how many, and even the numbers vary - from 600 to 2000 thousand?
          3. fox21h
            fox21h 13 July 2014 19: 22
            +2
            Quote: donavi49
            In 1 Guards select 62 Bulat + baht on BV + baht on BMP-2.

            In mechanized brigades on the 1 tank battalion and 2 on the BMP.

            In total in the anti-terrorist operation zone to 250 tanks were concentrated already.

            Fat Ukraine, fat fell.
            It seems that they are pulling all that is left, I hope the militia will quickly deal with this stuff
          4. ele1285
            ele1285 13 July 2014 20: 53
            +1
            [quote = donavi49] earhooks serve there, including jackals
          5. Arberes
            Arberes 13 July 2014 22: 45
            +2
            Glory to Ukraine! A column of tanks T-64 Damask goes to the front to smash the invaders.
            Invaders are militias or something ??? What the hell is there on one of the tanks Ukroflag yellow-black fluttering?
            Where did these shots come from? Can explain to me, dear donavi49 !
            1. Cynic
              Cynic 16 July 2014 09: 39
              0
              Quote: Arberes
              Where did these shots come from?

              Yes, it seems like it says _ Novoaydar 10.07.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX.
              The cars are likely to be equipped with crews to a minimum, who will sit on the march under the armor?
              And one is already run over, pulling.
              Hmm, judging by the exhaust of the tractor, the engine resource is at its end.
          6. patrianostra
            patrianostra 15 July 2014 23: 33
            0
            Have arrived bully drinks soldier but how cool they looked.
        2. svp67
          svp67 13 July 2014 18: 39
          +5
          Quote: ele1285
          specialists, tell me how many main, heavy tanks are in the brigade?


          TANK TEAM

          - Management
          - Headquarters
          - commandant platoon

          - 3 tank battalions (structure - similar to TB MBR, but in the companies - 10 tanks. In total, there are 31 tanks in each battalion)

          - 1 mechanized battalion on BMP

          - brigade artillery group

          - Zentitny missile and artillery division

          - Reconnaissance company
          - Communication node
          - Rota EW
          - Radar company
          - Engineering Support Group
          - Rota RHBZ
          - Material support battalion
          - Repair and restoration battalion
          - Medical company
          - Orchestra
          - Club
          - Typography

          In general, the structure and composition are almost similar to a mechanized brigade.

          The main difference is in the number of tank / mechanized battalions, 10 tank companies instead of 13 tank companies, there are no company of snipers, fire company and firing range. In the engineering units and divisions there are bridge spacers on the tank chassis, which are not in the mechanized brigade.

          1. 77bob1973
            77bob1973 13 July 2014 20: 17
            +2
            The 8th AK is the former 8th Tank Order of the Red Star Army of the Carpathian Military District. Zhitomir, formed in 1945 in the Carpathian Military District on the basis of the 52nd Army as the 8th Mechanized Army. In 1956 she took part in the suppression of the uprising in Hungary, in 1957 it was renamed as a tank. In 1968 the 31st Panzer Division took part in Operation Danube. In 1990, the army consisted of: -23rd Budapest Red Banner Tank Division of the Order of Suvorov, -30th Guards Tank Rivne Red Banner Order of Suvorov Division, -138th Anti-Aircraft Missile Brigade, 88th brigade mat. support, 532th separate pontoon-bridge battalion, 93rd separate signal regiment, 983rd separate electronic warfare battalion, 513th separate helicopter regiment.
            1. boris-1230
              boris-1230 13 July 2014 21: 29
              +5
              Now you have to suppress it and burn the banner, so as not to disgrace the Soviet reptile orders!
          2. alexan-peli
            alexan-peli 14 July 2014 23: 48
            0
            14.07.14. 23: 12 Message from the militia.

            "The situation for the punishers're coming out continues to deteriorate, the first losses of modern Bulat BM tanks appeared. This is the most modern Ukrainian tank (except for Oplot, which the Ukrainian Armed Forces have only a few pieces)."

            Picture taken near Lugansk.
        3. boozer
          boozer 13 July 2014 18: 45
          +4
          Actually, one must proceed from the concept of a brigade. Briefly this is a hodgepodge team. And so in Tbr there can be up to 100 tanks ...
        4. Miller
          Miller 13 July 2014 18: 57
          +6
          In the Soviet army, in the platoon there were 3 tanks, company-10, battalion-31, regiment-95, division-320. In Soviet times, the brigade was equated with a division. What is equated with today's dodger brigade. If like battalions of basics, etc. 100-150 people then the tank brigade is like a Soviet tank regiment, but not all equipment is on the go, that's about 70 units coming out. But these 70 units must be brought down to the team in order to effectively conduct an offensive battle. And if people who did not know each other even on the training ground were planted on them, then again cannon fodder.
        5. Yun Klob
          Yun Klob 13 July 2014 19: 23
          +2
          In the ukrobigada of 80 tanks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHYNVzQPehQ&feature=player_detailpage#t=922
  3. Stalker
    Stalker 13 July 2014 17: 39
    +29
    I feel that the junta militia will arrange its battle on the Kursk Bulge !!! Good luck to the Slavs !!!
    1. Roman 11
      Roman 11 13 July 2014 18: 49
      +3
      It will be Donbass Rock.
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  5. PRN
    PRN 13 July 2014 17: 40
    +10
    I would like to believe that the intelligence of Novorossia was not idle and the junta troops will adequately shake up, having exceeded the plan for the procurement of ferrous metal.
    1. svp67
      svp67 13 July 2014 19: 47
      +3
      Quote: PRN
      I would like to believe that the intelligence of Novorossia was not idle and the junta troops will adequately shake up, having exceeded the plan for the procurement of ferrous metal.
      Judging by the video from the militia, they have a lot of "Rapier" ... apparently for a reason ...
    2. azbukin77
      azbukin77 13 July 2014 22: 20
      -1
      This is the last agony of the junta! Everything, nothing else, everything !!!!
  6. svp67
    svp67 13 July 2014 17: 40
    +13
    Well, that's the "predicted" "muck" from our "friends". May God grant the army of New Russia the strength and ability to withstand ...
  7. starhina01
    starhina01 13 July 2014 17: 40
    +21
    Well, here Prokhorovka-2 appeared, hold on guys soldier
  8. Ostwind
    Ostwind 13 July 2014 17: 40
    +4
    On Sunday, militias reported that the captured Su-25 attack aircraft attacked Ukrainian forces.

    Finally, the militias have their own Air Force.
    God forbid I turned a couple of tanks into scrap metal
  9. soviet skytourist
    soviet skytourist 13 July 2014 17: 42
    +3
    video mozet i ne v temu no poka aktualno
  10. tomcat117
    tomcat117 13 July 2014 17: 45
    +9
    Refueling, equipment, raid and the "secret base."
    It is necessary to capture another plane for flying in pairs.
  11. Cynic
    Cynic 13 July 2014 17: 46
    +6
    It turns out clearly coordinated actions in Lugansk and our Donetsk, nothing accidental.
  12. soviet skytourist
    soviet skytourist 13 July 2014 17: 47
    +5
    Strelkov: The goal of Kiev is to draw Russia into the war with Ukraine
    1. Vovan - prison
      Vovan - prison 13 July 2014 18: 28
      +12
      Yes, Igor said. These ghouls in kind have beguiled the shores and seem to think that now they have ..., fingers like a fan, snot with bubbles, teeth in tattoos! Yes, for such jambs am beat them with candelabra !!! They just want in kind from a bucket negative eat clay !!! Yes for such laying banderlog in double am asshole! So Igor good hold the defense and do not worry from the back, we will cover if Che! We, too, were not made with a finger! They will give us the answer according to our concepts !!! As soon as they get into the bags at the stage! Bratva in RUSSIA is waiting for the Banderlog dynasty! Yes
      1. boozer
        boozer 13 July 2014 18: 54
        +9
        Concrete vocabulary! fellow In which zone was it hooked?
      2. AQUARIUS 65
        AQUARIUS 65 13 July 2014 20: 13
        +7
        Vovan - prison
        Yes, tochnyak Igor said ...
        So Igor hold the defense ...

        You know, "bratello", for someone it may be Igor, and for someone Igor Ivanovich. I feel that you respect, but I didn’t drink tea with him to call him Igor.
  13. GRAY
    GRAY 13 July 2014 17: 47
    +1
    Poroshenko’s puppet regime will soon end. Alexander Rogers. 13.07.14/XNUMX/XNUMX
  14. Skif83
    Skif83 13 July 2014 17: 49
    +16
    It is somehow hard to believe that 70 tanks were concentrated in dill.
    In any case, success to you Brothers in hard work.
    To recapture 70 tanks is already akin to Stalingrad!
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 13 July 2014 17: 59
      +8
      The tank brigade was removed from the Sumy cover of Kiev.

      And here the vengeance is already pulled up.
      1. alone
        alone 13 July 2014 18: 32
        +2
        Revenge has long been tightened. Even before the capture of Slavyansk.
        1. boris-1230
          boris-1230 13 July 2014 21: 38
          0
          But there is no reference to the terrain? Coordinates would yes
          hail this dill crop! am
      2. fridge
        fridge 13 July 2014 18: 43
        +1
        To clarify the situation on technology, it was necessary to apply swastikas. am
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      4. Roman 11
        Roman 11 13 July 2014 18: 58
        +2
        Ukrososiki went to their graves in the fields of sunflowers ...... and that is very poetic.
      5. muhomor
        muhomor 13 July 2014 19: 34
        +2
        The artillery grouping is in an inadmissible battle formation! Not dug in. Not disguised. A salvo of ONE BM "Grad" and no battery!
        1. svp67
          svp67 13 July 2014 20: 50
          +3
          Quote: muhomor
          The artillery grouping is in an inadmissible battle formation! Not dug in. Not disguised. A salvo of ONE BM "Grad" and no battery!
          Only on condition that after a couple of volleys they do not change firing positions, these are the "self-propelled guns" they are strong in this.
    2. svp67
      svp67 13 July 2014 18: 04
      +20
      Quote: Skif83
      It is somehow hard to believe that 70 tanks were concentrated in dill.
      The 1st tank tank was their operational reserve, they were going to use it to repel our offensive, apparently now the "VA-BANK" went ... I didn’t go there myself ... But something tells me that he will not succeed. But the fields of Ukraine next year will be like this ... since they have not seen so much blood for a long time.
      1. aleks700
        aleks700 13 July 2014 18: 34
        +11
        1 tank it was their operational reserve, with it they were going to reflect our attack
        They are absolutely sure that Russia will not intervene. Like this. They helped Donbass. Even the Nazis ceased to be afraid of the Russian army.
        1. nycsson
          nycsson 13 July 2014 18: 49
          0
          Quote: aleks700
          They are absolutely sure that Russia will not intervene. Like this. They helped Donbass. Even the Nazis ceased to be afraid of the Russian army.

          You need to be afraid of someone who commands the army ...... belay
        2. zzz
          zzz 13 July 2014 22: 23
          -1
          Quote: aleks700
          They are absolutely sure that Russia will not intervene. Like this. They helped Donbass. Even the Nazis ceased to be afraid of the Russian army.


          Why Russia can not send troops to Ukraine
          1. guz
            guz 14 July 2014 17: 36
            0
            Quote: zzz
            Quote: aleks700
            They are absolutely sure that Russia will not intervene. Like this. They helped Donbass. Even the Nazis ceased to be afraid of the Russian army.


            Why Russia can not send troops to Ukraine
            An intelligible video.
      2. Dart2027
        Dart2027 13 July 2014 18: 45
        +10
        Quote: svp67
        next year Ukraine’s fields will be

        If you mean a song:

        Poppies, poppies, red poppies,
        The bitter memory of the earth,
        Do you dream of attacks,
        Do you dream of attacks
        Those who have not come from these hills?

        it’s better not to. It talks about this memory:
        1. svp67
          svp67 13 July 2014 18: 56
          +6
          Quote: Dart2027
          If you mean a song:
          I mean the traditions of that land ... And everyone has the same blood, especially in the Civil War ...
        2. boris-1230
          boris-1230 13 July 2014 21: 41
          +1
          These are maidan poppies, they trade in poppy straws.
          1. svp67
            svp67 13 July 2014 22: 05
            0
            Quote: boris-1230
            These are maidan poppies, they trade in poppy straws.
            Poppies are the flowers of that land and they are not narcotic ...
          2. Rebus
            Rebus 13 July 2014 22: 10
            0
            Quote: boris-1230
            These are maidan poppies, they trade in poppy straws.

            They don’t sell it, they use it in large quantities, even poppy dewdrops aren’t for sale ...
            PS Maidan is a brain killed by drugs.
      3. Patriot.ru.
        Patriot.ru. 13 July 2014 19: 38
        +1
        Last year, these fields were sown with a sunflower. This year, nothing.
    3. base66
      base66 13 July 2014 18: 22
      +1
      rather Kursk
  15. Rigla
    Rigla 13 July 2014 17: 50
    +7
    Now the main thing is maneuver by forces. It is necessary to unite the armies of the DPR and LPR and instantly transfer reinforcements to difficult sections. No maneuver - no victory.
  16. Arh
    Arh 13 July 2014 17: 51
    +8
    Oh, from the Russian Federation there should be reinforcement !!! ***
  17. Black
    Black 13 July 2014 17: 51
    +39
    70 boxes .... this is so much ....
    Thanks to the working class of the glorious city of Kharkov .... bastards, dvuhdonki !!!
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  19. izGOI
    izGOI 13 July 2014 17: 52
    +10
    Militia aviation is already flying, that's a fact. But is it possible to make sure that when necessary, the SU-25 was in the sky of New Russia continuously and in all the necessary places, albeit based on South Ossetia.
    And you also need to put 1-2 ukrov fighters in the DNI or LNR, but someone must cover the SU-25 in you.
    1. Vasek
      Vasek 13 July 2014 18: 06
      +12
      Quote: izGOI
      1-2 ukrovskie fighter, must someone cover the SU-25 in you.

      And all with the same board numbers.
      1. svp67
        svp67 13 July 2014 19: 05
        +3
        Quote: Vasek
        And all with the same board numbers.
        As Israel once did, so there is someone to learn from ...
    2. Patriot.ru.
      Patriot.ru. 13 July 2014 19: 42
      -5
      Surely there is not the Ukropov SU-25 flying there, but our modernized one, with modern missiles and guidance.
  20. tol100v
    tol100v 13 July 2014 17: 52
    +6
    Let's hope that Strelkov prepared a lot of "SURPRISES" for the Nazis, because his intelligence has proved more than once that he is not eating his bread in vain!
    1. Vovan - prison
      Vovan - prison 13 July 2014 18: 33
      +3
      Yes, in kind there will be surprises from Igor Ivanovich! The brother-in-law also understands that it’s not so simple here! But the Natsiks with all their armored vehicles will be grabbing! Here it is!
    2. svp67
      svp67 13 July 2014 19: 07
      +6
      Quote: Tol100v
      Let's hope that Strelkov prepared a lot of "SURPRISES" for the Nazis, because his intelligence has proved more than once that he is not eating his bread in vain!
      At the forefront of this attack is the LPR army, and Strelkov is the Minister of Defense of the DPR. This is about subordination, but before that, the LPR army showed the best equipment, preparedness and coordination ...
  21. Dlennyi
    Dlennyi 13 July 2014 17: 53
    +12
    Capture of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Donetsk
  22. Vik.Tor
    Vik.Tor 13 July 2014 17: 57
    0
    Quote: 51064
    Isn't this a fake about 70 tanks on Sunday evening?

    And why did you decide so?
    1. 51064
      51064 13 July 2014 19: 02
      0
      Yes, already because in the evening the attack allegedly began. By the way, from the context of Strelkov's speech, it follows that "the enemy concentrated," and did not attack.
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  23. sever.56
    sever.56 13 July 2014 17: 57
    +3
    Guys, hold on! God and Russia with you !!!
  24. KBPC50
    KBPC50 13 July 2014 17: 57
    +3
    Quote: tomket
    yes it seems no, according to rtr 24 they said the same thing, only up to 90 units of armored vehicles, in response, the militias put forward 20 tanks.
    It is difficult to agree to push tanks against tanks, it would be better for ATGMs, and only then finish off, as they taught. Apparently in Kharkov they really bought everyone and everything, it can be seen at the HZTD the workshop is spinning for the whole, scum ...
    1. tomket
      tomket 13 July 2014 18: 11
      +4
      well, it can be used as a skeleton in defense in particularly important areas, remembering the "Doomsday" war and a small amount can fill 80 dozen enemy armored vehicles, having lost their 4 units. About ATGMs, it is mainly clear that they use "Fagots", and in Chechnya, "Fagots" are not too effective against tanks with dz, there were often cases where up to four missiles hit the t-72 with dz, without much harm to the tank.
  25. Oleg amos
    Oleg amos 13 July 2014 17: 57
    +1
    Guys, may God deliver the hutnt to your hands. Forward New Russia!
    Sala outskirts, loshara sala!
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  27. Cossack Ermak
    Cossack Ermak 13 July 2014 17: 58
    +1
    This is already very serious.
    1. rauffg
      rauffg 13 July 2014 19: 33
      +7
      please answer the question, my friend. if you are from Kazakhstan.
      This week I drove through the glorious city of Petropavlovsk on the way to Siberia. Everything is as usual Kazakh customs, border guards. I am 34 years old, average build and beer belly. The representative of the border service of Kazakhstan, having walked the whole car, returned to me, looking at me for about half a minute, demanded docks from me along the way asking if I was a military man? almost a compliment to me, after all, 13 years as a demobilization. But for some reason, it was thought that the Kazakh border service had been issued instructions for tracking the RA military personnel. And I would like to clarify whether these actions are related to any concerns of Kazakhstan after the annexation of Crimea to Russia, given the predominance of the Russian population in the North Kazakhstan region of Kazakhstan?
      1. nemec55
        nemec55 13 July 2014 22: 36
        +1
        Let me answer, though not a Kazakh or a resident, but also quite often wound up in the KZ, do not worry I have friends at the customs of the KZ there is nothing like that, he just might see someone in you (a friend from work or school)
        1. rauffg
          rauffg 13 July 2014 23: 37
          0
          it was a border guard. customs officers had no questions for me. structures of different actions of a general orientation.
  28. mitrich
    mitrich 13 July 2014 17: 59
    +12
    This is where Russian art divisions can roam. Blow into the noise, and from 70 tanks only burned boxes will remain. And Strelkov in his message will say that the artillery of the militias destroyed the column of ukrov armored vehicles. This is geopolitics.
  29. sever.56
    sever.56 13 July 2014 18: 00
    +35
    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/331/jbyn411.jpg
    1. pg4
      pg4 13 July 2014 18: 11
      +7
      A good bender is a dead bender!
      1. Olegovi4
        Olegovi4 13 July 2014 22: 25
        0
        Quote: pg4
        dead bender!

        Any Bandera is a dead Bandera!
  30. zol1
    zol1 13 July 2014 18: 02
    -2
    Well, help came from the Crimea to the fascists! Thank you very much to our authorities, which helps the Natsiks ( only on July 5 suspended the return of heavy weapons from Crimea)!
    1. Cynic
      Cynic 13 July 2014 19: 21
      +9
      Quote: zol1
      (only on July 5 they suspended the return of heavy weapons from Crimea)!

      In March, it happened, March 15, specifically.
      But you Milsudar worse natsgadov, those are simple, but you are ideological!
      1. lankrus
        lankrus 13 July 2014 21: 19
        +6
        Quote: Cynic
        In March, it happened, March 15, specifically.
        But you Milsudar worse natsgadov, those are simple, but you are ideological!


        Unfortunately it's true. The supply of equipment was stopped only on July 5.
        1. ARS56
          ARS56 13 July 2014 23: 09
          -3
          I counted three suspension announcements and not a single continuation of deliveries.
          But according to information from the Crimea, supplies went almost continuously.
          I clarify. Deliveries of Russian tanks to Ukrainian fascists. Russian, because The Republic of Crimea nationalized all state property and only then reunited with Russia.
          Lawyers who are in power must understand this.
          We are a shame, but the lawyers - just business, nothing personal.
          So the troll yells that he caught the troll.
          1. Cynic
            Cynic 14 July 2014 16: 39
            +1
            The first was a conversation about ground technology, aviation (the question is what, the three of those conditionally working in Balbek ushkandybala herself in Ukraine. The remaining trash?) and the first ban did not concern the fleet.
            The last noise about the transfer of military equipment came when Ukraine, such as SAMA, refused to accept this equipment from the Crimea, something was about the cessation of military-technical cooperation with Russia.
            Just think, but don’t be hysterical. _ Who will refuse to supply arms for free?
            I am surprised that Ukraine has not yet made any complaints, but that _ the Technique went to the Russian Federation in the LUX condition, and they return it as it was putrid for 23 years.
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        3. Cynic
          Cynic 14 July 2014 17: 01
          0
          Quote: lankrus
          Unfortunately it's true. The supply of equipment was stopped only on July 5.

          Since June 17, Parashenko has banned SAM from receiving equipment from the Russian Federation.
          Here political phraseology is in full growth, you need to distinguish between the suspension and stop transmission!
          In fact, the same way, the equipment is not transmitted, but politically, as it were, the Russian Federation does not refuse to transfer!
          National hut _
    2. azbukin77
      azbukin77 13 July 2014 22: 16
      0
      Believe me, everything that came from Crimea cannot be restored !!!
      1. Cynic
        Cynic 14 July 2014 16: 46
        0
        Quote: azbukin77
        all that came from Crimea is not subject to restoration !!!

        Not exactly, all that went to the Russian Federation in Crimea, by definition, could not be restored!
        There were photos of that equipment, Ukrainians gutted it for color, and all that sort of thing that can be sold in full!
        Really W.K.R.Warriors .
  31. Vik.Tor
    Vik.Tor 13 July 2014 18: 03
    +6
    Disturbing news, great power, where they are gaining so many suicide bombers. And about the Su-25 pleased smile
    1. base66
      base66 13 July 2014 18: 16
      0
      Yes, he would have a couple more.
  32. skylare
    skylare 13 July 2014 18: 05
    +15
    I’m not afraid to say - but these days the fate of New Russia as a state will be decided. If the militias withstand these attacks, there will be really nothing to oppose them with the ukrov army. I sincerely wish the army of the republics stamina, courage and good luck! Igor Ivanovich - we believe in you and hope for you!
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  33. MAGGNUM
    MAGGNUM 13 July 2014 18: 07
    +4
    drag these tanks into the city and finish there, well, 20 units can be captured. That would not be bad. hi
    1. base66
      base66 13 July 2014 18: 14
      +5
      are they fools to climb into the city? from a distance they will shoot.
      1. alone
        alone 13 July 2014 19: 57
        +2
        Why climb into the city. You are absolutely right. In the morning they already trumpeted that they took the village of Sabovka, 6 km from Lugansk. Under the shelling, the strategic road Lugansk-Donetsk.
        By the way, according to the village, they took almost immediately.
        1. alicante11
          alicante11 14 July 2014 03: 13
          0
          Why climb into the city. You are absolutely right. In the morning they already trumpeted that they took the village of Sabovka, 6 km from Lugansk. Under the shelling, the strategic road Lugansk-Donetsk.
          By the way, according to the village, they took almost immediately.


          Most likely, they concentrated their forces on repelling the blow to the city, reinforcements were sent there. As a result, they could not parry the blow in the west. Or were not going to. There is also a roundabout way through Beloye-Georgievka-Luxurious. But dill again get into the bag.
    2. svp67
      svp67 13 July 2014 22: 09
      0
      Quote: MAGGNUM
      tighten these tanks into the city and cum
      And the fact that people live there is nothing? No, you shouldn't teach people who are directly fighting there, they are good professionals and I am sure that tomorrow we will find out interesting news. There are enough places in the "open field" where you can arrange both "fire bags" and anti-tank ambushes ...
  34. vvsz031249
    vvsz031249 13 July 2014 18: 11
    +18
    Quote: zol1
    Well, help came from the Crimea to the fascists! Thank you very much to our authorities, which helps the Natsiks ( only on July 5 suspended the return of heavy weapons from Crimea)!


    No panic. There is nothing to hysteria. Not yet evening. Fear has big eyes ... But there is no need to flaunt it - yes, the power goes even when one tank rushes into the trenches - scary. And here are dozens ... But the militias have something to defend - their homeland. We will pray for them and believe that they will stand !!!
  35. base66
    base66 13 July 2014 18: 11
    +2
    as in the 41st. the main thing is to knock out their tanks.
    1. svp67
      svp67 13 July 2014 22: 10
      +3
      Quote: basy66
      as in the 41st. the main thing is to knock out their tanks.
      2014 is not much different - the main thing is to bring down their warlike fervor ...
      1. builder
        builder 13 July 2014 23: 34
        +1
        Quote: svp67
        Quote: basy66
        as in the 41st. the main thing is to knock out their tanks.
        2014 is not much different - the main thing is to bring down their warlike fervor ...

        ..... and tanks
        1. svp67
          svp67 14 July 2014 00: 38
          +1
          Quote: stroitel
          .... and tanks
          It’s more efficient for this to destroy manpower, and in what will it be there - in body armor, in tanks, in other armored vehicles, in transport or combat helicopters, in airplanes ... the third thing ...
  36. RN40Y45
    RN40Y45 13 July 2014 18: 11
    -4
    but what kind of Apache is it? or is it disinformation from Strelkova?
  37. donavi49
    donavi49 13 July 2014 18: 13
    +4
    Shkiryak (adviser to Minister Avakov) in LitsoBook made a speech under the slogan "INTO THE OFFENSIVE ON THE FUCKING YUK!"

    In connection with the latest shameful provocations of the Kremlin on the Ukrainian border, it becomes obvious that we are close to the danger zone - a direct military conflict with the Russian Federation. It's scary, but I think that mentally, we have long been ready for this... In fact, the direct military aggression of the Putin regime against sovereign Ukraine began back in March, in Crimea. And everything that happens in the east is a continuation of the bloody imperial scenario of the Moscow tsar. So, a request to all: No hysteria, despair, panic and despair! In FB and in conversations with each other, one should not demoralize society with negative sentiments like "everything is lost" ... After all, this is exactly what the x * lo is striving for. It's a shame if someone doesn't understand this. Of course, there are problems, it is difficult for all of us, we worry and sympathize. But such a total imbalance and disappointment only plays into the hands of the enemy. This should not be allowed.
    We need a cold mind, irresistible patriotism, an unconquered spirit and an unbending will. We are the descendants of the glorious Cossacks and UPA warriors, proudly ahead and above our heads! Now, everyone has become side by side. At the front and in the rear should be united. That is the guarantee of our victory over the racist aggressor! People, Army and National Guard - TOGETHER! We are much stronger than crappy Russian mercenaries and local traitorous coves. This is our God-given land and we will not give it to anyone! No doubt, we will overcome the adversary! Offensive! The Lord is with us and the truth is with us! Glory to Ukraine!

    https://www.facebook.com/zoryan.zoryan/posts/735188336542116
    1. Kathernik
      Kathernik 13 July 2014 18: 43
      +8
      “There is nothing on this earth of yours.” And I hope it will not.
      1. djtyysq
        djtyysq 13 July 2014 21: 23
        0
        Quote: Katernik
        “There is nothing on this earth of yours.” And I hope it will not.



        No, they earned a place for a grave on this earth.
      2. boris-1230
        boris-1230 13 July 2014 21: 59
        +1
        Their land is in Mordor, there their "beauty" awaits.
    2. fox21h
      fox21h 13 July 2014 19: 29
      +2
      Quote: donavi49
      Shkiryak (adviser to Minister Avakov) in LitsoBook made a speech under the slogan "INTO THE OFFENSIVE ON THE FUCKING YUK!"

      In connection with the latest shameful provocations of the Kremlin on the Ukrainian border, it becomes obvious that we are close to the danger zone - a direct military conflict with the Russian Federation. It's scary, but I think that mentally, we have long been ready for this... In fact, the direct military aggression of the Putin regime against sovereign Ukraine began back in March, in Crimea. And everything that happens in the east is a continuation of the bloody imperial scenario of the Moscow tsar. So, a request to all: No hysteria, despair, panic and despair! In FB and in conversations with each other, one should not demoralize society with negative sentiments like "everything is lost" ... After all, this is exactly what the x * lo is striving for. It's a shame if someone doesn't understand this. Of course, there are problems, it is difficult for all of us, we worry and sympathize. But such a total imbalance and disappointment only plays into the hands of the enemy. This should not be allowed.
      We need a cold mind, irresistible patriotism, an unconquered spirit and an unbending will. We are the descendants of the glorious Cossacks and UPA warriors, proudly ahead and above our heads! Now, everyone has become side by side. At the front and in the rear should be united. That is the guarantee of our victory over the racist aggressor! People, Army and National Guard - TOGETHER! We are much stronger than crappy Russian mercenaries and local traitorous coves. This is our God-given land and we will not give it to anyone! No doubt, we will overcome the adversary! Offensive! The Lord is with us and the truth is with us! Glory to Ukraine!

      https://www.facebook.com/zoryan.zoryan/posts/735188336542116

      They dig them there, it’s a pity the instigators are only brave from far away, but on someone else’s blood
    3. leglun
      leglun 13 July 2014 20: 24
      +4
      The truth is ours and the victory will be close !!!! Death to the right-wingers !!! And not the Ukrainian people !!!
    4. Juborg
      Juborg 13 July 2014 20: 37
      +2
      Dill sold its dill sovereignty to the United States with its European base, precisely in March. Only this fascist dill mixed up with accents.
    5. boris-1230
      boris-1230 13 July 2014 21: 57
      +5
      Ukrozombi in despair - Russia does not attack, but the tanks are on fire! That's just Zaporizhzhya Cossacks and the UPA warrior do not mix! Cossacks bowed at the Russian Empress - they asked for protection of the empire, and the UPA licked the ass from the Nazis. am angry
    6. svp67
      svp67 13 July 2014 22: 12
      +3
      Quote: donavi49
      This is our land given by God and we will not give it to anyone!
      Would Vladimir Ilyich and Nikita Sergeevich know that they became Gods for them ... But why did they demolish Lenin’s monuments? Unclear...
  38. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 13 July 2014 18: 14
    +3
    The main thing is not to panic .. everything is fine! Must survive!
    1. boris-1230
      boris-1230 13 July 2014 22: 00
      +1
      God help them!
  39. sv68
    sv68 13 July 2014 18: 16
    +3
    this is for Lugansk-the moment of truth-if this attack is repelled and the fighting positions do not leave, then they managed to regroup and are ready for constant heavy and protracted battles
  40. Naval
    Naval 13 July 2014 18: 17
    +8
    Some have already left, I hope that the guys of Strelkov will calm the rest.
    1. boris-1230
      boris-1230 13 July 2014 22: 02
      +2
      Now this is the "sky brigade"! am
  41. GRAY
    GRAY 13 July 2014 18: 18
    +23
    I wish Ukrainian tankers to join the "heavenly" hundred.
    1. boris-1230
      boris-1230 13 July 2014 22: 05
      +3
      But rightly so! good
  42. Slavich
    Slavich 13 July 2014 18: 19
    +9
    70 pieces is already a problem. They can crush in bulk. True in the open field. In residential areas it will be more difficult for them.
    1. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt 13 July 2014 21: 15
      +2
      then the Nazis will turn residential areas into a clean field
      1. Black
        Black 13 July 2014 22: 09
        +1
        Quote: Thunderbolt
        then the Nazis will turn residential areas into a clean field


        Not. They will beat the outskirts ... try to escalate the panic ... launch sabotage groups, due to the small number of militias, there will be no problems seeping ... they will destroy communications - water, electricity, gas, sewage ... they will try to cut cities from borders and from each other friend ...
        In Slavyansk skated-continue here ....
  43. sogdianec
    sogdianec 13 July 2014 18: 21
    +10
    Quote: KBPC50
    Apparently in Kharkov they really bought everyone and everything, it can be seen at the HZTD the workshop is spinning for the whole, scum ...


    Why bought, probably hard workers plow for salary. And there even though the grass does not grow. They earn on retirement.
  44. Russ69
    Russ69 13 July 2014 18: 25
    +4
    Apparently dill, decided to conduct a decisive assault. God forbid, to withstand the militia, then it may at least not calm down for a long time ...
    1. Armax
      Armax 13 July 2014 20: 22
      +2
      It is hoped that the U.K.R. did not have time to group all the forces (rear, fuel and lubricants, ammunition ...) for the assault, in a hurry so that the LPR did not build a capital defense.
      The guys will withstand the first onslaught, then the UKRs will surrender for a while.
      There will be time to strengthen, good luck to the soldiers of the militia!
  45. Atanda
    Atanda 13 July 2014 18: 27
    +7
    IRON HOOD! cargo-200
  46. donavi49
    donavi49 13 July 2014 18: 27
    +12
    They have already begun to storm Lugansk (Aleksandrovka is finally all).

    Militias reported the start of the assault on Lugansk by Ukrainian security forces

    http://lenta.ru/news/2014/07/13/lugansk/

    “According to preliminary data, the Ukrainian security forces stormed the city from the direction of Alexandrovka, it’s not just shelling, All this is supported by 50 tanks and two attack planes", - told the headquarters of the militia.
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 13 July 2014 18: 30
      +14
      Quote: donavi49
      Militias reported the start of the assault on Lugansk by Ukrainian security forces

      God forbid, they survive ...
      And, VVP is "nice" to watch the World Cup final ...
      1. boris-1230
        boris-1230 13 July 2014 22: 09
        0
        And GDP is pursuing a policy under the nose of pin_do_sov. Paves the way for bases on the South American continent.
      2. tehnoluks
        tehnoluks 13 July 2014 22: 42
        +4
        And, VVP is "nice" to watch the World Cup final ...

        When the MTO bases of the Russian fleet are opened in South America, you will be the first to tear your throat with a bang! And when they start digging the canal in Nicaragua, you will probably die of happiness. GDP works on such trips, and if you look at the World Cup, then try to pay attention to the reaction of others, maybe you will understand something in this life.
  47. Russ69
    Russ69 13 July 2014 18: 27
    +3
    DONETSK, July 13 - RIA Novosti. The authorities of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic claim that near the village of Mayskoye in the Dnepropetrovsk region are flying tests of four American helicopters, representatives of the DPR on Sunday said.

    "Four Apache helicopters are undergoing flight tests in Mayskoye (Dnipropetrovsk region)," says the DPR microblog on Twitter.

    RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/world/20140713/1015769321.html#ixzz37MIUt6aE


    Canada is ready to provide 20 aircraft, F18 aircraft and send personnel for training free of charge. True aircraft removed from the Canadian Air Force.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 13 July 2014 18: 29
      +17
      Well, by the winter, when everyone prophesies the collapse, there will be NATO bases, F-18 and a strong demand to give Crimea to the Kuban. Well and now volunteer battalions are actively developing, which, as it were, were not the army, but from the Svidomites who had been beaten to the full head. Like meat.
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 13 July 2014 19: 36
        +6
        Kiev police have access to data from American reconnaissance satellites0b (the Ukrainian general scored 0dn00m from briefing0v) .m0zhn0 assumes that 0 are activated and American reconnaissance drones are missing. There isn’t enough hit0g0 segment (from the second) for other tasks and 0n0 for 0 tasks 0n === Apache.
    2. Simple
      Simple 13 July 2014 18: 40
      +4
      Quote: Russ69
      "Four Apache helicopters undergo flight tests in Mayskoye settlement (Dnipropetrovsk region)"


      So the first "Apaches" crossed the Dnieper.
      1. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 14 July 2014 00: 00
        +1
        In Iraq, a Bedouin peasant deposed the Apaches with an old rifle. So the militia will also drop them.
        1. Nikolaevich I
          Nikolaevich I 14 July 2014 00: 43
          +2
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          In Iraq, a Bedouin peasant deposed the Apaches with an old rifle. So the militia will also drop them.

          Do not repeat this hrenь again! This myth has long been known and "refuted".
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 14 July 2014 16: 50
            +1
            However, I really want to believe in this. During the Iraq war, the Apache suffered the most casualties and damage from the use of its weapon systems.
    3. Corsair
      Corsair 13 July 2014 19: 09
      +4
      Quote: Russ69
      Canada is ready to provide 20 aircraft, F18 aircraft and send personnel for training free of charge. True aircraft removed from the Canadian Air Force.

      Sent for recycling? Like these:
      18-18, Operational Information:
      UPD 1: I remind you that two dryers were shot down today: one in the area between Zaitsevo and Artemvovsk, the second - Debaltseve, and now (18: 00 MSC) information has been received about the third shot down drying near Lugansk (now being re-checked).
      This is for today.
      http://voicesevas.ru/
      1. Simple
        Simple 13 July 2014 20: 10
        +3
        Quote: Corsair
        Sent for recycling? Like these:


        No.

        First, all the legacy inherited from the USSR near Lugansk and Donbas will be ground, and then the transition to the NATO standard.
        Here the USA will correct its economy.

        And the fact that the first deliveries are free are just the first deliveries.
        1. boris-1230
          boris-1230 13 July 2014 22: 13
          +2
          There will be a case to check MANPADS on NATO aircraft, as was checked in Vietnam and Egypt. And there an autopsy will show where they have a weak link!
    4. alicante11
      alicante11 14 July 2014 03: 18
      0
      Yes, you do not worry, we drive closer to the air defense system. And some types do not need to be driven at all, we’ll fill up directly from our territory.
  48. rudi26
    rudi26 13 July 2014 18: 32
    +4
    Quote: MIKHAN
    The main thing is not to panic .. everything is fine! Must survive!


    Maybe they will survive, but how much will survive there is a question. Eh .....
  49. Russ69
    Russ69 13 July 2014 18: 35
    +8
    13.07.14. 18: 14 Message from Strelkov Igor Ivanovich.

    “The enemy really doesn’t have enough forces to attack and defend EVERYWHERE. But he concentrated his strike forces near Luhansk and quite successfully“ ram ”the weak combat formations of the militia. So far, the initiative is entirely in the hands of the Ukrainians. The militia has no forces to go on the offensive. Not yet.
    Babay is alive and well. Deserted together with most of the "Crimean Cossacks" immediately after leaving Kramatorsk. At first they refused to obey the order and go to Donetsk (they “held a meeting” for a long time and “puffed up”: like “we will not leave the city!”), And then suddenly they all broke down at once and “found” at the very border. They gave the honor to further defend Novorossiya to local militias and those of their fellow volunteers who are guided by the concept of "military discipline" so hated by the modern "Cossacks".


    13.07.14/17/59. XNUMX:XNUMX Commentary from Strelkov Igor Ivanovich.

    -Why does the militia allow them (today, from the airport, escaped from 50 to 70 dill) to escape?

    II.: "The airport occupies a large area that the militia cannot fully block. We do not have a whole regiment for these purposes. The blocking is not done with the goal" that the mouse does not slip out of there, "but to prevent the supply of reserves and supplies i.e. using a system of strong points. It is not difficult for small groups of infantry to penetrate unnoticed in the dark for small groups of infantry. In the end, deserters are already taken out of the war - they are now criminals in the eyes of their own command. strength and their capture is not profitable. "
  50. faterdom
    faterdom 13 July 2014 18: 35
    +5
    This is already convulsions. 70 tanks is a lot, but they cannot take such a city as Lugansk, and in general it is better not to meddle in cities with them, a tank is useful in the field. That is, after today's "decisive" assault the Nazis will not repeat something like this, and their units along the border will be surrounded and eliminated.
    It is time already in Kiev to take on a showdown with each other: who is to blame, what to do, and who has more armed thugs on the Independence Square. And only a timely overdose of something he can drink can save the powder ... Like Adolf once
    1. vrach
      vrach 13 July 2014 19: 47
      +4
      They are trying to cut communications between Donetsk and Lugansk, while the issue of the airport’s release is apparently being addressed. In Lugansk, no one will climb. Strikes by special forces around the city are a distraction.
      1. alicante11
        alicante11 14 July 2014 04: 02
        0
        And I understand that the tank attack was just on Lugansk.
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