Ukraine. With reliance on shtetl Nazism ...

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At one of the recent roundtables on information security, the following assumption was made:

- In Ukraine, people are likely to be subjected to some kind of psychotropic influence, and, moreover, very powerful. Many callers from Russia tell their acquaintances and relatives about the pronounced inadequacy of the Ukrainian interlocutors. People just do not know. They are hostile, do not listen to any arguments.

Indeed, in the last five years alone, the number of those who consider Russia to be a real enemy has increased almost 10 times, and now the number of such people is in the 40% area. This data polling, and the hostile moods are growing. But is it possible to bring millions of people to a similar state with psychotropic drugs? It is unreal: so powerful weapons and in such quantity does not exist yet. And what is there?

There are methods of mass propaganda and technology, traditional, for centuries and decades, worked out and polished, and the latest - information and psychological warfare. Moreover, it is conducted against the background of the socio-economic crisis and the armed conflict that broke out in the south-east of Ukraine. We must not forget that the military confrontation itself, with hundreds of officially recognized, and most likely thousands of victims, is also the result of many years of targeted propaganda carried out not without the help of numerous Western foundations for the development of democracy and civil society. It all began more than twenty years ago with rewriting storieswhen the united Russian world began to be presented in the form of centuries of warring two nations - Russian and Ukrainian, where the first is the eternal cunning aggressor and dishonest neighbor.

In Russia, for many years, with irony and sarcasm, they spoke about the “globe of Ukraine”, about Ukrakh, who allegedly invented and discovered everything - a wheel, a plow, steam, toothpicks, and, possibly, toilet paper. How else to relate to such a quote from the history book:

- Ukrainians are a great nation who once inhabited almost all of Europe. The Gauls - the inhabitants of Galicia (Galicians - Western Ukrainians), Galicia (in Spain), Gaul - in France and Northern Italy and the Gels - Scots, as well as the Irish - are one and the same people. Part of the Galicians inhabited and Thrace. So Spartak and Bandera are national heroes of our homeland.

But such a primitive, parochial in essence, the idea of ​​national exclusiveness, contrary to common sense, more and more conquered and conquers the hearts and minds of the fraternal people yesterday. And Russia, by and large, did not try to play on this side of the information field, believing that it would be able to decide everything at closed and open negotiations about the price and terms of gas contracts. And as a result of such blindness, hundreds of Ukrainian interpreters of history and modernity were unsuccessfully able to convey to their readers, viewers and listeners, for example, Oleg Soskin, professor of the Ukrainian National Academy of Management, constantly introduces the audience:

- The Muscovites stole the language, the Orthodox faith, the name of the country from the Ukrainian people, and now the time has come to return all this to us. And they should return to their Finno-Ugric, Turkic foundation. The bandit Peter stole the genetic name “Russia” from Ukraine, calling his empire the Latin letters Russia, which became known in the Romano-Germanic world as “Rush”. And the Finno-Ugric transformed it into "Russia."

Perhaps many believed and believe that there is no point in arguing with clearly illiterate delusions. Say, is it possible to steal a language? He, as you know, is developing beyond the control of the will of the rulers, good or evil, it does not matter. Making the people speak out of hand is impossible. And faith? It is either there or not, and if it’s common, you should be so proud of it. With the name of the country, the professor again has bloopers worthy of a schoolchild of Losers. It is clear that the professor likes the phrase “Roman-German”, but he clearly does not understand its meaning. “Rush” is in English, and “Russland”, let's say, in German. Where at the same time there were some Finno-Ugric people who gave us "Russia" is completely unknown.

However, such nonsense, in spite of everything, is becoming, speaking in a professorial way, a trend and the main discourse of modern Ukrainian politics. Thus, the deputy of the Verkhovna Rada, Ivan Stoyko, at a meeting of the Parliament recently stated that his country is waging war with the “Mongoloid race” and “Fascist Russia”, which like a locust climbs on Ukraine to destroy our state, our nation. The parochial Nazism in the words of the professor and the deputy is presented very clearly. This is a mixture of homegrown racist theory, which is mixed simultaneously with one’s own supposed exclusiveness and inferiority. A mixture of superiority and servility, when your own farm - is the center of the universe, and your neighbor always causes envy, which leads to Kurkul hatred. And at the same time dense ignorance is given out for the top of intellectual wisdom. By the way, this is the current phenomenon of Ukrainians. This is not yesterday's Bandera with the primitive idea of ​​the destruction of Muscovites without claims of intellectual superiority. And at the same time, it is customary to say that Ukraine is certainly a European country. How to deal with European tolerance, when hostility to a different nation and race and rushing. Poor Europe, whom she warmed on her chest!

Today in Ukraine all leading Russian TV channels are banned. And own propaganda (there is no talk of neutral objective journalism now) fulfills the recommendations of the National Council on Television and Radio Broadcasting, as well as of the Independent Media Trade Union. In one of them advise:

- Do not help the enemy to disorient citizens of Ukraine - many of them, hearing the name of the battalion, doubt whether they are Ukrainian or Russian units. Instead of such names of battalions as “Aydar”, “Dnepr”, “Azov”, it is better to use the phrase “Ukrainian military”, in “one of the territorial battalions”, “Ukrainian army”. Instead of the “Vostok” battalion, it is better to say “Kadyrov mercenaries”.

Not only did no one show yet the hordes of Kadyrov's mercenaries and columns of Russian Asians, but the relevant recommendations of Dr. Goebbels from 22 June 1941 of the year still involuntarily emerge. They are addressed to German newsreaders, who are encouraged to choose among the Soviet prisoners of war for filming the weekly newsreel pronounced Asian and Semitic persons, thereby emphasizing that Germany saves Europe from the wild Asian-Jewish Bolshevik hordes.

But what about the current Ukrainian, in its essence, parochial-Nazi propaganda on the ordinary man in the street? Here are some examples of blog statements:

- Still not everyone understands that we are not negotiable with mad dogs from the Kremlin: there is a civilizational abyss between us.
- The contradictions between us are such that they can be destroyed only by war and the destruction of one of the parties: either Putin in Kiev or Maidan in Moscow.
- This is a war for the past - who inherits Kievan Rus.
- Moscow is a cancer tumor on the body of humanity, the main brake on its development.
- Without the liquidation of Moscow (not the city, but the principle), humanity will not move forward.


Let us try to sum up some of the ongoing information war. If a year ago there were still discussions on the topic: where should Ukraine go - to the Eurasian Union or the European one, then today there is no place for such disputes. After all the dramatic events, the choice was formally and unequivocally defined - the European way of development on the basis of the association agreement with Europe signed by President Poroshenko. However, after violent enthusiasm, the Verkhovna Rada did not immediately ratify the agreement, and even the date for discussing this issue in Parliament is unknown. The explanation most likely lies in the fact that the authorities are afraid of embarking on the practical implementation of the agreement. Ukraine is not ready for painful reforms - in the economic, political and legal reality. Suffice it to say that 90% of the decisions of the European Court of Human Rights is not implemented here.
Europe, of course, benefits from a free trade zone, they say that it is also beneficial to Ukraine. However, the country today is not in a position to shoulder a heavy economic burden and suffer enormous losses. But most importantly, the second leading player in the political field of the non-independence - the United States - does not at all strive for the goals that united Europe has set itself. Americans are not interested in the Ukrainian economy, with the exception of gas supplies to Europe, which they seek to reduce. But their main task today is the creation in this territory of a military-field education hostile to Russia, even if due to the collapse of a single state. And here, more than ever, the topic of opposition to the Eurasian Union is relevant.

Recall that at the end of 2012, US Secretary of State Hilary Clinton, completing her tenure as state secretary, stated categorically that the West, led by America, should not allow the creation of a full-fledged Eurasian Union. It can be said that the first stage has already been achieved - it was possible to reject Ukraine from the Eurasian vector. And in fact, new education is becoming increasingly Asian.

But at the same time, all of a sudden, a Crimea was joining Russia as an annoying and painful splinter. Today, American interests are voiced directly by officials in Kiev. Suffice to say that the head of the SBU Valentin Nalyvaichenko in the Shuster Live program of the First National TV Channel clearly identified the enemy in Russia, where he created the aggressive ideology of Eurasianism and Orthodox fundamentalism hostile to Ukraine and the entire civilized world. This vassal of Langley is unaware that he literally quotes the operational instructions of his masters, not being confused by the fact that Ukraine itself is also an Orthodox country. Or at least it was until recently.

What to do to Kiev? First, it is necessary to solve the problem of the rebellious Donbass - New Russia, and, secondly, then deal with the Crimea. At the same time, recently the actions of Kiev have become increasingly decisive and, not least, they meet with considerable support from the country's elites, the oligarchs who have ascended to power. The same policy is supported by considerable sections of the population who do not accept a truce with the Donbas. In any case, such a position is the result of the current ukronatsizm getting stronger.

Russia's position on the South-East is not at all offensive. It basically boils down to rhetoric about the need for peace in the region, with an emphasis on showing the victims of Ukrainian punishers and the suffering of the civilian population. There are regular reports of shelling of the border territories of Russia. Europe externally listens to the voice of Moscow, postponing the adoption of the next package of sanctions, but in Kiev and, most importantly, in Washington, Russia’s position is not taken into account. President Putin is extremely demonized - this is Hitler of our days, and Lavrov participating in international negotiations is none other than Ribbentrop.

In addition, Kiev’s armed conflict in the Donbass, which has been going on for three months, is objectively beneficial today and will become even more profitable in the coming months, when the economic and political situation in the country will worsen. The external enemy for the ruling regime is urgently needed and, moreover, numerous feudal armed formations of the oligarchs and the Right Sector can be used to combat it. The United States will give money for a war with Russia, so you should not dismiss the words about the liberation of the Crimea and the loud calls to attack the enemy on its territory.

In this regard, Moscow in the near future should clearly develop its position in relation to Novorossia, its leaders and the methods of the struggle there. In addition, the de facto formed Eurasian Economic Union should immediately be strengthened in every possible way. Here steps are important not only in the real economy, but also in determining the value priorities of a new education. At the same time, it is necessary to talk not about the development of a new ideology - the path is dead-end, since Russia itself does not yet have its own ideology.

The peoples of Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan (as well as countries preparing for accession), and without a formal ideology, bind a lot. We have, by and large, a similar worldview, much in common in the rejection of the corrupting basis of being a pseudo liberalism of the modern West. But this association is not out of hatred, but on the preservation of its national and cultural identity. We cannot repeat the negative experience of Ukraine, where neighboring Slavic peoples managed to be put on opposite sides of the barricades, using the mechanisms for the formation of aggressive parochial Nazism. Now it will take years to overcome what happened. And, unfortunately, there will be considerable sacrifices.
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  1. +6
    14 July 2014 14: 24
    Propaganda is GREAT power!
    Goebbels, Stalin, Lenin understood this!
    And in our country, Americans launch trampolines, and throw their hats over, oh ...
    1. +19
      14 July 2014 14: 34
      The more we try to convince the world of our complacency and peacefulness, the more they become wild and accuse us of aggressiveness.
      Something we are not doing right. Obviously.
      Every century we give vaccinations to Europe, but for a long time is not enough.
      1. +4
        14 July 2014 18: 44
        They will calm down only when the country does not become Russia. Our task is not to let them calm down. Russia was, is and will be. good
    2. +9
      14 July 2014 14: 35
      Hmm ... Nazism in Germany rose on the VICTORY ... AND ECONOMIC GROWTH ... !!! I think Ukraine does not threaten !!! Let DOWNLOAD can still !!! Soon ALL RACES ARE NACK !!!
      1. +4
        14 July 2014 14: 48
        Quote: Armagedon
        ALL RACES ARE NACK
        They will be covered in any case, jumping does not work!
      2. +7
        14 July 2014 16: 55
        http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/979/kfwf857.jpg
      3. +2
        14 July 2014 17: 46
        Quote: Armagedon
        Hmm ... Nazism in Germany rose on the VICTORY ... AND ECONOMIC GROWTH ... !!! I think Ukraine does not threaten !!! Let DOWNLOAD can still !!! Soon ALL RACES ARE NACK !!!

        Nazism in Germany was ideologically shaped not by "VICTORIES", but by a kindled feeling of national humiliation after the defeat in the First World War and slogans for revenge for this defeat.
        And he was economically fed on Anglo-American loans. By the way, the Anglo-American Union earned tremendous funds, lending to all warring parties. And then he invested the same capital made from blood into Hitler and unleashed the Second World War, once again increasing his capital from his blood through his credit and banking network.
        It is the Anglo-American alliance that Mr. Putin calls "partners and friends."
        Seen not at all taught the History of the USSR-Russia, Mr. President
    3. +4
      14 July 2014 15: 12
      When people lack something, they begin to invent something in return, so the Ukrainians invented for themselves both history and heroes, and you don’t want to lose even this virtual power.
      1. 0
        14 July 2014 23: 01
        Giant thought
        When people lack something, they begin to invent something in return, so the Ukrainians invented for themselves both history and heroes ...

        Quote from the Ukrainian textbook:
        Ukrainians are a great nation that once populated almost all of Europe. Gauls - residents of Galicia (Galicians - Western Ukrainians) Some of the Galicians also inhabited Thrace. So Spartak and Bandera are national heroes of our homeland.

        It remains to prove that the first person was also Ukrainian (of course - Galician).
        By logical reasoning, this is done simply. Is Ukrainian a man? Definitely. Just like not a man - not a Ukrainian. But, if these statements are true, then the reverse is also true, that is: not a Ukrainian is not a man, but a man is a Ukrainian.
        The Holy Scripture says specifically that God created man, and since Adam was the first man, he is also the first Ukrainian. Adam is the creation of God. Any creation of God is perfect. It is said: "And God saw that it was good." And what could be better and more perfect than a Ukrainian-Galician?
        God forbid that Svidomo Ukrainians will read it, they will generally blow down the roof.
        If the quote about the "great people" from the history textbook, cited above, is taken without distortion, then the word Motherland, written with a small letter, says that it is nothing for them ...
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    5. +1
      14 July 2014 15: 49
      It's simple. Stalin dealt with this easily .. If you "chat" - "you will" sit. They took not those who spoke, but purposefully chatted! Those same Decembrists ... but a lot of such stories in history. You need to answer for the words. Put it into a state of law. Yanyk "s vigna" did not understand this, and where was it to be understood? he has no time, he needs to "grab" ... he took it into account "... but started with Kuchma ..." We do not take Bender's man "Kravchuk", he ruined the Union .. Yeltsin asked him what we would do in Belovezhskaya Pushcha .. Shushkevich didn't care.
    6. +5
      14 July 2014 17: 02
      - Ukrainians are a great nation that once populated almost all of Europe.
      Why only Europe. The largest alpine lake in South America in terms of fresh water reserves, Titicaca, is translated from "ancient Galician" as "ugly bust" ...
      1. leglun
        +2
        14 July 2014 17: 35
        Do you want Baikal? Fuck you !!!!
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    8. 0
      14 July 2014 21: 09
      on the censor wanted to talk with ukram so several innocent comments and everything was blocked
  2. +10
    14 July 2014 14: 24
    Yes, I already noticed for a long time that people were very brutal there very quickly, talked about all kinds of topics with my acquaintance, and after about three or four days I became a cursed masal for him. It’s just that fast people don’t turn their brains over, something works there
    1. Matroskin 18
      +3
      14 July 2014 14: 43
      Yes, I already noticed for a long time that people were very brutal there very quickly, talked about all kinds of topics with my acquaintance, and after about three or four days I became a cursed masal for him. It’s just that fast people don’t turn their brains over, something works there

      To be more precise, it "does not work"!
      Because "stubbornness is the first sign of stupidity"! A wise person will not give an instant answer to a difficult question. First, he will try to understand the interlocutor, listen to his arguments, deal with the situation, and only then he will try to explain "the view from his bell tower"!
      And with regards to relatives in Ukraine - for me the topic is sore ...
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    3. +3
      14 July 2014 15: 06
      does not interfere with checking water and food ... psychotropic drugs have already been applied on the Maidan!
    4. +4
      14 July 2014 15: 49
      Quote: Coffee_time
      Yes, I already noticed for a long time that people were very brutal there very quickly, talked about all kinds of topics with my acquaintance, and after about three or four days I became a cursed masal for him. It’s just that fast people don’t turn their brains over, something works there


      If you look at the archive of comments and articles, so your humble servant two years ago, in disputes with sane Ukrainian "svidomites" on the site, told them that the guys at such a rate will send you to the okpa to fight with us for NATO bases, Yes, Nevsky was shouting about banderization. We were called chauvinists who hate the Ukrainian people, they said that everything was fine with them. And here's the result.
      Here's an example of my comment two years ago

      Ascetic SU February 10, 2012 09:00 | According to experts, the Ukrainian army is the most backward in Eastern Europe
      The leadership of Ukraine lacks a clear understanding of the zachach that the army (the armed forces as a whole) must decide. Under Yushchenko, emphasis was placed on joining NATO, which gave Ukraine security guarantees in the opinion of the leadership and, accordingly, the Natavtsi were supposed to bring the scattered army units remaining from the Union to their common standards, and for their money, like in Georgia.
      "Yanukovych came to power, declared about Ukraine's non-aligned nature. The issue of obtaining security guarantees has disappeared, but by inertia the president continues to" cut "the army. We are always given an example of" peaceful and non-aligned "Switzerland, but no one mentions that this country has one of the most powerful armies in Europe. There potentially almost the entire population of the state is under arms. The country is full of bomb shelters and various fortifications. This is an example of neutrality, "the analyst stressed. Timchuk

      Uncertainty reigns in the heads of many officers. Many feel like mercenaries: "I gave three oaths to the Union, Russia and Ukraine, this is how fate developed," says one of the many officers. Therefore, the army is demoralized and incapable of fighting, almost like ours in the 90s.
      The Armed Forces of Ukraine are optimized by endless reductions, reforms, due to constant underfunding, they almost do not conduct combat training. The Navy can be said to exist only on paper, the army is going to be cut even further. Therefore, soon the Ukrainian Armed Forces will not be able to defend even the border areas during the invasion of the armies of Romania and Hungary.
      For the EU, it’s stupid to join Ukraine to yourself, you just need to swell fantastic amounts, with a vague prospect of returns. The big question is whether the EU will survive the current global crisis. It’s easier to go into dismemberment scenarios and, in parts, include the lands of small Russia in Hungary, Romania, Poland, and create several new “independent” states.
      The only way to maintain integrity, to solve their problems, to secure the frontiers is to go for decisive integration with Great Russia. If this is not done, Russia will be forced to return to unity, integrating the East, possibly the regions of the Center, Crimea, otherwise they will be lost. The history of the 17th century is repeated ...


      So you will not escape fate Yes
      1. +4
        14 July 2014 16: 05
        And further reaction of our Svidomo brothers

        Sas UA February 10, 2012 12:02
        "Indeed, the variant with the division and annexation of the eastern regions, the Center and the Crimea to Russia is quite probable." Do not write nonsense! What a dismemberment ?!


        ANTK DE February 10, 2012 10:43
        Quote: Ascetic
        The only way to maintain integrity, to solve their problems, to secure the frontiers is to go for decisive integration with Great Russia.
        Hoo-hoo not ho-ho? And what is "great" Russia?


        But it turned out that huh hu and ho-ho were the very tomatoes from Great Russia. And this is only the beginning, despite the cries of Putin.

        ANTK DE February 10, 2012 10:44
        Quote: esaul
        Indeed, the option of dismembering and joining the eastern regions, the Center and the Crimea to Russia is quite likely.

        Fresh news from Putin's presidential campaign headquarters - "Russia will not be able to lay claim to Crimea - neither militarily nor economically."

        It turns out even as it can, just at that time it was not necessary to exacerbate and upset the banderlogs. laughing

        link to article.
        It is interesting sometimes to look at events in retrospect ...
        1. +1
          14 July 2014 18: 55
          I completely agree with you, Stanislav, the aunt is wise in history - she puts everything in its cells and in retrospect, and in the long run it rarely makes mistakes. Wait and see.
    5. +1
      14 July 2014 16: 48
      Quote: Coffee_time
      Yes, I already noticed for a long time that people were very brutal there very quickly, talked about all kinds of topics with my acquaintance, and after about three or four days I became a cursed masal for him. It’s just that fast people don’t turn their brains over, something works there

      Awareness of one’s mistakes will come along with poverty, hunger, cold, unemployment, and the contemptuous consumer attitude of the West. Russia can be blamed for all its troubles for a long time, but not endlessly. A hangover will be very difficult.
  3. +6
    14 July 2014 14: 25
    Today I wrote in the comments to one of the articles that it is extremely surprising that at the same time several tens of millions of people in Ukraine went crazy !! I immediately remembered the fairy tale about Niels and a huge flock of rats who were deceived by a magic pipe, bewitching them and leading to their death, but there, this good conquered evil, and here, on the contrary, the rat of world imperialism (and this is not a stamp of the Soviet era, but the reality of today) promising the golden mountains through the media pipe led the Ukrainian people to the abyss!
    1. Stalin8175
      +4
      14 July 2014 14: 50
      And still it is not possible to believe that the neighboring people, with almost a common language, culture and history, could be turned into such an evil pack of Nazis, sadists and bloody kov. All the same, this happened because they never were brothers to us, but, as Solovyov said in the program yesterday, a nation with treason in mentality and, accordingly, replacing its inferiority with animal cruelty and blind hatred. And at the same time, he is looking for a master, because without him he is not able to realize himself as a people, a state, and simply a community. Of course, winter and the realities of European integration in the economy and social life can turn our minds around, but it will act more like kerosene and make the crowd of ukrofanatics and Ukrainized representatives of other nations who join them even more crazy because rabies is contagious.
      1. +6
        14 July 2014 15: 09
        exactly - a complex of national inferiority! Zaporizhzhya Cossacks differed in this ... sold to the one who will give more ...
      2. 0
        14 July 2014 23: 58
        Quote: Stalin8175
        a nation with a betrayal of mentality and, accordingly, replacing its inferiority with animal cruelty and blind hatred. And at the same time, looking for the owner, because without him they are not able to realize themselves as a people, a state, and simply a community

        enchanting nonsense ...
        Was it really about a nation or specific scum? I hope you made a mistake with the term ..
  4. valery1389
    +5
    14 July 2014 14: 25
    Winter is coming soon without gas. It remains only to ride to keep warm. Then European integration. Better if the hahly tell us poor Muscovites how they now live in a bright and rich Europe? Probably all polls now go to Porsche, get 5 t.evro per month, live in villas and Poles clean their boots, and Czechs, Hungarians and Romanians come to them to work? Khakhlam was lucky. Finally, a completely independent life has come ... (http://i057.radikal.ru/1407/65/aec7b97a5dbf.jpg)
  5. +2
    14 July 2014 14: 26
    Perhaps they use the technology of 25-frame impact on a person and his subconscious or similar, but quite powerful developed taking into account modern technological developments.
    1. +3
      14 July 2014 15: 24
      Hitler rallied the nation for several years with the slogan that
      Jews are to blame for everything, using only their horizon.
      In our age of high technology, apparently, they did it faster.
      The construction of a spent nuclear fuel storage facility will soon begin, which will be brought in from all over Europe.
      We add here a huge damage to nature from the extraction of SG,
      an agreement has already been concluded for a period of 50 years
      with the possibility of extension, and it turns out that from Ukraine
      it turns out a big cash cow and garbage at the same time, and Russia will again be to blame for all this
    2. 0
      15 July 2014 00: 10
      Quote: Baatyr
      Perhaps they use the technology of 25-frame impact on a person and his subconscious or similar, but quite powerful developed taking into account modern technological developments

      I can explain a little how the media "worked"
      I don’t take the Maidan - "there was no unrestricted media war" therefore "Ukraine slept" in spite of the attempts to wake her up by the Maidan.
      How did Russia come to the idea of ​​a real enemy?
      very simple - Crimea turned up, because of the nationalists (their abolition of Russian) and played the role of a catalyst for the bad smoldering "Moscow is to blame for everything"
      try to prove to every Ukrainian that it was all about garlic, so that Kiev did not even participate in such a "legitimate" case as the transition of Crimea. And this is not the worst thing. The fact is that Moscow could rely on the opinion "that Crimea is still more Russian" in the Ukrainian community - if it had not demanded an indemnity (unilateral gas revision and an increase in payments) and had not set its citizens to write very bad words about Ukrainians (trophies , do not give up the property of the army and navy, confiscate everything and everything Ukrainian) something like For Sevastopol they answered ... so you and you need bastards ..
      After demands for reparations, confiscation of property, the expulsion of Ukrainian firms, an outright mockery of the Ukrainian blogosphere by the Russian blogosphere ... Sorry, in our age when all this comes to mind very quickly, a backlash of disagreement begins. Every Ukrainian felt the "price of transition" on himself, which became similar to the "price of aggression" .. Everyone!
      Well, now having received such a trump card, even in any Russian city of Ukraine, you can find many who want to fight with Russia for the Crimea. And the opinion has already changed ... For example, I agreed with the transition - but it’s impossible to endure these bullying as if it really was a war (this word already displays trophies) indemnity .. loss of firms .. Full stop of communication between Odessa and Crimea ... full stop of communication (except for calls to relatives) .. just a watershed ..
  6. +3
    14 July 2014 14: 26
    In the near future, Moscow should clearly develop its position in relation to New Russia

    Not that word!
    Much earlier, the "no-fly zone", and about the shelling of their territory - to respond to provocations, where they came from - to return there, the darn was not repeated. For this, it is not necessary to cross the border, which, by the way, has not yet been officially recorded!
  7. +5
    14 July 2014 14: 28
    In Russia, for many years they spoke with irony and sarcasm about the “globe of Ukraine”, about the stolen goods that supposedly invented and discovered everything in the world - a wheel, a plow, steam, toothpicks, and, possibly, and toilet paper.

    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/047/quob810.jpg
    1. Caa
      0
      14 July 2014 18: 02
      They even wipe the ass. Disgusting!
    2. Caa
      +1
      14 July 2014 18: 02
      They even wipe the ass. Disgusting!
  8. +5
    14 July 2014 14: 30
    "But is it possible to bring millions of people to such a state with psychotropic drugs?" - It turns out that you can, once brought. At first glance, naive and silly propaganda, the story written in Washington has a very strong psychological impact. If, for example, a person is constantly told that he is, then sooner or later he will believe in it. If you constantly tell him that he is a great Ukrainian, and all the troubles come from her, then he will believe it even more willingly. So we are now watching hordes of "corrupted elves" who commit atrocities and genocide in Novorossiya. Even Hitler said that many battles in Germany were won by the history teacher, and in many ways he was right (the man was cruel, but far from stupid).
    1. galinka
      +3
      14 July 2014 14: 58
      Not Hitler said this, but Bismarck about the Franco-Prussian War of 1870.
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    2. +3
      14 July 2014 15: 10
      about teachers - this is Otto Bismarck ...
    3. +2
      14 July 2014 18: 58
      And here is another from Adolf:
  9. +1
    14 July 2014 14: 32
    I think so again, all this Russian gauno will have to be raked ...
    1. leglun
      +1
      14 July 2014 17: 36
      And hu hu you don’t want to, comb yourself now !!
  10. +4
    14 July 2014 14: 33
    Ukrainians are a great nation that once populated almost all of Europe. Gauls - the inhabitants of Galicia (Galicians - Western Ukrainians), Galicia (in Spain), Gaul - in France and Northern Italy and the gels - the Scots, as well as the Irish - they are one and the same people. Part of the Galicians inhabited Thrace. So Spartak and Bandera are the national heroes of our homeland.


    This was written by homegrown historians, by political order.
    And what world history says:
    The papal abbot Mavro Orbini wrote Historiography back in 1606.
    A small excerpt from it:
    - The Russian people are the most ancient people on earth, from which all other peoples descended. Empire courage of its warriors and the best weapons in the world for millennia kept the entire universe in obedience and humility ...
    1. DPZ
      +1
      14 July 2014 16: 43
      the papal abbot meant the Ukrainians, simply called them Russian. because foreigners confuse Russian Belarusians and Ukrainians and they all call Russians !!!! lol
  11. +3
    14 July 2014 14: 34
    Very competent article. In addition, let me recall the situation in which fascism took root in Germany. And he took root precisely when Germany was in a difficult economic situation, and the citizens' self-esteem was underestimated + defeat in the First World War and, as a result, a feeling of wounded pride. The parallel with Ukraine is obvious.
  12. arch_kate3
    +3
    14 July 2014 14: 35
    Keyword - LOCAL!
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  14. +1
    14 July 2014 14: 37
    everything is correctly written in the article ...... I can only assure you that a maximum of 1 lamas of Ukrainians thinks so, the rest do not think so, they are afraid, still don’t care ... but as always this active crazy percentage steers ...
    1. +1
      14 July 2014 14: 51
      Quote: sullen fin
      I can only assure you that a maximum of 1 lamas of Ukrainians thinks so, the rest don’t think so, they’re afraid, still don’t care ... but as always this active crazy percentage steers

      I willingly agree, our people even in Ukraine, even in Russia from one test. In me, ethnic Russian flows the blood of Ukrainians for example. bully And under the diktat you don't show off much, the "maydanutye" will come and explain what you think is wrong.
  15. Evgtan
    +1
    14 July 2014 14: 38
    EURONEWS shows the meeting of the GXNUMX countries. The sleek Euro announcer broadcasts:
    - Western leaders are demanding that Russia urgently INTERFERE with the situation in southeastern Ukraine and help Kiev regain control of this region. Otherwise, the US and the EU are ready to apply to Russia another package of sanctions FOR INTERVENTION in the internal affairs of Ukraine ...
    Wife to husband (indignantly):
    - And after that you still say that it’s female logic - @ banuta? !!!
  16. +8
    14 July 2014 14: 38
    Perhaps many believed and still believe that there is no point in arguing with obviously illiterate delirium.


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  18. +2
    14 July 2014 14: 40
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  19. +3
    14 July 2014 14: 40
    I served an emergency in 1977 with guys from Ukraine, and they talked between us that without us, the maskals would live perfectly. So it’s been such a mood there for a long time. But the fact remains that they are now all in the rear aperture. That's how it turns out. drinks
  20. +1
    14 July 2014 14: 42
    History creates modernity. History as a science. Twisted truth in a school textbook in twenty years will turn into a revolution in the country.
    Ukraine - see and LEARN !!!!
    1. +2
      14 July 2014 19: 07
      Comrade K. Marx remarked very aptly: "A nation, as a woman, cannot forgive its weakness when any rogue can take over it." Yes
  21. 0
    14 July 2014 14: 42
    After all the dramatic events, the choice is formally and unambiguously determined - the European development path based on the Association Agreement with Europe signed by President Poroshenko.


    Anecdote on the topic of the day:

    - Mykola, and sho tse "Associated membership"?
    - Well, godmother, Ukraine will participate in the EU.
    - So, it will enter the EU?
    - Neither will enter, but will participate.
    - Yak so?
    - Well, roughly, like eggs in sexual intercourse: participate, but do not enter. And so, dangling nearby
  22. +1
    14 July 2014 14: 44
    However, after violent enthusiasm, the Verkhovna Rada did not immediately ratify the agreement, and even the date for discussing this issue in Parliament is unknown.

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  23. arch_kate3
    +4
    14 July 2014 14: 46
    And one more thing: in order not to repeat the Ukrainian Maidan in Russia, our government must turn to face the people and take real steps to overcome the flagrant inequality and unfair divide after the collapse of the USSR. It is necessary to share with the people! Reduce energy tariffs, adjust taxes, write new laws aimed at creating a middle class in Russia ... and much more ...
    1. DPZ
      0
      14 July 2014 16: 46
      Putin has repeatedly talked about the big gap between the oligarchy and ordinary citizens. I hopefully listen to his words. maybe they’ll think about the people. not only about the army and law enforcement agencies, but about all segments of the population.
  24. 0
    14 July 2014 14: 46
    considerable support among the country's elites - the oligarchs ascended to power.

    And what if our oligarchs suddenly want to steer Russia directly? Their money is already immeasurable, and here the Americans will help. DON'T GIVE GOD!
  25. +1
    14 July 2014 14: 47
    “But such a primitive, shtetl in its essence, the idea of ​​national exclusivity contrary to common sense” - we all went through, in the sense of the uniqueness of the Swedish nation, which has taken root so much in our history that many are still confident in the Swedish origin of Rurik and his brothers, Varangians, the formation of Rus by the Swedes (although the Swedes themselves gathered in a bunch for almost 3 centuries, until the early 13th century) and much more ... What can we say about Ukraine ?, she also had to somehow assert herself on this planet and look for and find her own start, justify your existence.
    1. +1
      14 July 2014 15: 18
      with the Ruriks and the Varangians, for a long time, we were all powdered with brains ... but their brains - sometimes it is necessary to turn on! we have this - reverence for the printed word, we believe him unconditionally ... so thank God that all sorts of "rains", "echoes" and "the most up-to-date newspapers" have appeared, even though we started to understand the liars, we begin to distinguish where the enemies are .. ...
  26. Old Cynic
    +1
    14 July 2014 14: 47
    Recall in end of 1012 year US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton concluding her tenure


    Remove the GLASSES !!!
  27. 0
    14 July 2014 14: 49
    The development of a UNIFIED IDEALOGY will help the Eurasian Union to strengthen.
    1. Old Cynic
      0
      14 July 2014 15: 07
      One thing?
  28. 0
    14 July 2014 14: 54
    all this is a near-death bunch of a Western project called great European Ukraine .. I'm not an optimist in this regard, just the fact that there is a public entity near RUSSIA from whose territory we can intercept our missiles is not included in RUSSIA's plans .. even if the president does not want to .. military either forced to ... either intervene indirectly or directly ... wang ... there is a certain limit that we don’t know about after which a lightning-fast operation of forcing dill to the world will begin- instant troop entry strikes in key areas, that is, aviation and air defense and heavy weapons are knocked out. .after which rotation on the captured victorious positions is the transfer of its and dill weapons and the withdrawal of the Russian Military! .. I would really like to believe in this ..
  29. kompotnenado
    +1
    14 July 2014 15: 00
    History is repeated first in the form of tragedy, then in the form of farce. Ukrop Nazism is the farce that the Masonic evil spirits pulled out of naphthalene.
  30. Evgtan
    +1
    14 July 2014 15: 02
    Ukraine and the United States have much in common in their statehood. Both those and other dregs of society in search of a good life fled from their countries. Some from Europe to the new world, where they committed genocide of the indigenous population, others from Russia to Zaporozhye for freemen. Both lived robbery, some robbed the Indians, others who turn up by the arm (Poles, Tatars, Russians). No wonder they sang, the mentality was the same, at the genetic level
    1. 0
      14 July 2014 23: 56
      Quote: EvgTan
      Ukraine and the United States have much in common in their statehood. Both those and other dregs of society in search of a good life fled from their countries. Some from Europe to the new world, where they committed genocide of the indigenous population, others from Russia to Zaporozhye for freemen. Both lived robbery, some robbed the Indians, others who turn up by the arm (Poles, Tatars, Russians). No wonder they sang, the mentality was the same, at the genetic level

      something new in terms of "Ukraine is to blame for everything" ...
      not bad in terms of "the US is the main enemy" plus Ukraine in the union ... so they said "enemy number 1 +"
      Sounds amazing but "from Russia" to Zaporozhye (Obviously Sich)
      in general, nothing but a smile ... although such "water" for the general "mill" of the formation of public opinion causes more than just fear ... This is a sharp change in the "climate" in the minds of the inhabitants of the Russian Federation (this has already happened in Ukraine) .. which is impossible admit.
  31. +1
    14 July 2014 15: 04
    And it seems to me that the paramount issue is faith or ideology ... What ideology was in the post-Soviet space for all 23 years (but in reality - much earlier) - worship of the golden calf! At the same time, all Christian and communist values ​​were rejected (and in fact, they turn out to be very close: the Commandments of God and the Moral Code of the builder of communism). From here all the problems began to float, the most important of which is the "partition" of a single people! And then the "technologies of friends" - NGOs, Soros foundations and others - were already involved, which laid down on fertile ground for worshiping a new idol - BABL!
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  33. kudryan
    0
    14 July 2014 15: 11
    There will be no limit to atrocities and provocations. A handful of people are opposed (many sympathize) with the fooled nationalism of people who allegedly defend the sovereignty of an independent, in fact fulfilling the interests of predatory capital. And who is better? What is better with us? The vast majority are mired in self-interest. This is waiting for us ...
    But what if...?
  34. Nina Zima
    +1
    14 July 2014 15: 24
    Yes, to live with such scum in the same country and breathe the same air with him rightly zapadlo, Lord ...
    1. DPZ
      0
      14 July 2014 16: 50
      . God's chosen. I’d rather die!
  35. +1
    14 July 2014 15: 26
    It started back in the times of the USSR, Ukrainians were already whining that they feed everyone. And after the collapse, it was only enough for 23 years, everyone was fucked up.
    1. +1
      14 July 2014 16: 05
      these 23 years they, like in the USSR, were sitting on tacit subsidies from Russia: there was a bunch of military industry ... where did the oligarchs come from? they also know how to cut, no worse than ours ...
  36. +1
    14 July 2014 15: 30
    there is an opinion (based on the results of trips to Ukraine over the past 4 months): they themselves will "figure it out" - the ukroarmiya will simply run out of steam (the money will run out), all the basics and the Dnieper do not fight, but rob ... mercenaries go for money, not for their own death, when they start killing them with the released forces and professional volunteers, everyone will fade, except for adrenaline junkies like this Swede and Italian ...
    the usa will not dare to interfere so brazenly (they have already stopped skating on every occasion - they may even crash: with a pinpoint strike, a sniper, a volley of hail or an explosion of a powerful "homemade" land mine, laid by a "terrorist" who has been studying this for 4-5 years); and money into this hole - only demonstratively, drop by drop - it is all the same already clear that they will not return, they "cannot be taken away ..."; from weapons - they will give old stuff, Apaches written off with a frantic raid of hours ... and the militia will grow in the meantime!
    Poroshenko - a fool, stuck in this presidency! his term is maximum until spring ...
  37. +3
    14 July 2014 15: 54
    There is no point in defending the Ukrainians and singing songs about "brotherhood". These tales were invented under the communists in order to somehow control the territory of Little Russia after the Makhnovism and Petliurism. Ukrainians are Eastern Poles, not Russians. Their language is closer to Polish, their folk costume and architecture are similar. Previously, they were different only by faith. For which the Poles despised them. And now there is no faith. There are no obstacles to return to Warsaw.
    1. +3
      14 July 2014 16: 09
      Ukrainians - Little Russians who accepted Uniatism, renounced Orthodoxy (in the 16th century). someone escaped - they live in Siberia ... they escaped from the "rope", they say, but they themselves don't remember what it is! and when they were baptized into Uniatism, they took a child from the family, tied it to a rope - and into a well! you renounce Orthodoxy - they got the child out of the well ... this is the Uniates! ...
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      2. 0
        14 July 2014 17: 44
        Quote: CONTROL
        CONTROL Today, 16:09 ↑
        Ukrainians - Little Russians who accepted Uniatism, renounced Orthodoxy (in the 16th century). someone escaped - they live in Siberia ... they escaped from the "rope", they say, but they themselves don't remember what it is! and when they were baptized into Uniatism, they took a child from the family, tied it to a rope - and into a well! you renounce Orthodoxy - they got the child out of the well ... this is the Uniates! ...


        In fact, the Russian faith in Rus is not Orthodoxy at all. Catholicism and Uniatism are also foreign ideas, only later ones. The Slavs have their gods, otherwise everything was imposed by cunning Jews, who, however, themselves did not want to worship the cross. Not profitable, sir, let the goyim bow.
    2. 0
      14 July 2014 18: 09
      Quote: formidable
      formidable (1) Today, 15:54
      There is no point in defending the Ukrainians and singing songs about "brotherhood". These tales were invented under the communists in order to somehow control the territory of Little Russia after the Makhnovism and Petliurism. Ukrainians are Eastern Poles, not Russians. Their language is closer to Polish, their folk costume and architecture are similar. Previously, they were different only by faith. For which the Poles despised them. And now there is no faith. There are no obstacles to return to Warsaw.


      Yah! Closer to Polish! Do you have any, the most remote idea of ​​the Ukrainian language? In Russian, yes, very similar. And in Polish - like a pig on a horse. In the Ukrainian language, do they "pshekayut" and "pshiskayut"? It can also be said that the Russian language is close to Polish, especially since the Poles even managed to climb the throne of the Muscovy 400 years ago. Rumor has it that the forks appeared in Muscovy after those pshesok. Their woman, Marina Yurievna, brought with her such a tsyatska, the boyars and the people liked her very much. And the Smolensk lands, and in general with the Polish ones, overlapped ... The Russian national costume, as well as the Ukrainian one, also has its own embroidered shirts. The Ukrainians of the Sumy region and the Russians of the Bryansk region are more similar to each other than the Russians of Novocherkassk are similar to the Russians of Tver.
    3. 0
      15 July 2014 00: 17
      Quote: formidable
      Ukrainians are eastern Poles

      uh ... that's the turn ...
      I know Ukrainian, but Polish I don’t understand at all. But the Serbs understand better ... knowing the Ukrainian language ..
      Yes, and here's the Latin and Cyrillic too different from each other ..
      Oh, in general, what am I proving here .. right away there is "Ukraine has long been such an enemy number van"
      It's a shame that none of you is resisting exactly the same "Ukrainian way of hatred for everything russkomu" just the opposite.
      Such stuffing went with me, even patience is not enough to assess the depth of their stupidity and influence ..
      1. 0
        15 July 2014 05: 04
        ) I never learn Bulgarian to read it freely. But in Ukrainian I don’t understand horseradish. Rewrite Ukrainian in Latin and cannot be distinguished from Polish! Embroideries))) there is no hatred, but contempt for everything Ukrainian !!!
      2. 0
        15 July 2014 05: 04
        ) I never learn Bulgarian to read it freely. But in Ukrainian I don’t understand horseradish. Rewrite Ukrainian in Latin and cannot be distinguished from Polish! Embroideries))) there is no hatred, but contempt for everything Ukrainian !!!
        1. 0
          15 July 2014 12: 28
          Quote: formidable
          formidable (1) Today, 05:04 ↑ New
          ) I never learn Bulgarian to read it freely. But in Ukrainian I don’t understand horseradish. Rewrite Ukrainian in Latin and cannot be distinguished from Polish! Embroideries))) there is no hatred, but contempt for everything Ukrainian !!!


          Reading and understanding are two different things. You read in Bulgarian, but do you understand? This is a big question. If you are a Bulgarian yourself, then of course you understand. "Badger" in Russian and "Yazovets" in Bulgarian are very similar words? I can read German and English fluently. And I read it quite correctly, with good pronunciation. Well, to the point, if nothing is clear, I don’t know 90% of the words. By the way, do you know that modern Russian writing is lightweight, truncated and does not convey all the richness of the Russian language that was in the old spelling before 1917? But in that writing of the great and mighty Russian language there was the letter "i". And in the Ukrainian language, this, at first glance, a Latin letter is present to this day. So, contempt for the Ukrainian language is how to say ... Tamas, as the Hindus say
  38. +1
    14 July 2014 16: 02
    Gauls, Galicians ... Basques, Gascons ... Dartanyan - a hero of Ukraine ...
    completely crazy!
  39. Stasi
    0
    14 July 2014 17: 14
    The so-called small-town Ukrainian nationalism was implanted in many ways by the Bolsheviks after the end of the Civil War. The policy of so-called "Ukrainization" began in April 1923, when the Seventh Conference of the CP (b) U adopted a decision on the Ukrainization of state structures and enterprises, which was planned to be completed by January 1, 1926. All employees of state institutions, including cleaners and janitors, were subject to Ukrainization. Those who did not want to give up their native language or did not pass the MOV exams were dismissed without the right to unemployment benefits. Paid courses in the Ukrainian language and culture were introduced, to which everyone was driven after work. Everything and everyone was Ukrainianized: the press, schools, universities, theaters, institutions, production, stamps, signs, etc. For example, in Odessa, where Ukrainian students accounted for less than a third, all schools were Ukrainianized. The Russian theater was destroyed. In 1930. in Ukraine there were only three Russian-language newspapers, one each in the cities of Odessa, Stalino, Mariupol. The secretary of the Communist Party of Ukraine Kosior called on the communists: "At meetings, sessions, when meeting with comrades, speak only Ukrainian." Another interesting point. The peak of Ukrainization came in 1932 and 1933, and coincided with the famine, which today is called the Holodomor and genocide of the Ukrainian nation. Accident? I can't believe it. Only after the cleansing of 1937, which sent the Ukrainian elite into oblivion, the process of violent Ukrainization was stopped. In 1938, Russian was introduced as compulsory in schools. And in Kiev, the only Russian-language newspaper, Pravda Ukrainy, appeared.
    1. 0
      15 July 2014 00: 26
      Quote: Stasi
      For example, in Odessa, where Ukrainian students were less than a third, all schools were Ukrainized. Russian theater was destroyed

      Article-B. Chernyshov
      Ukrainization as she was
      They pull out such articles very often ... how to prove that it was the Bolsheviks who fed the Natsiks ...
      Why, guess ..
      Regarding Odessa, neither administrative methods nor public methods helped ...
      Signs and advertisements hang and wait ... and what's the point? We automatically translate everything and still speak Russian. And then it was probably even cooler ...
      Wait a moment, I wanted to turn on Russian on my site (English or Ukrainian), I cut myself what I liked (the era of the consumer, he decides which product he wants)
      Something bad Odessa was Ukrainized that in 1988 I started learning Ukrainian as early as the 4th grade when the primer was still Soviet (Russian)
      There are three most important books for forming the Primer (the language you will think in)
      History (what you will do) - everyone chooses the third book himself.
      But if you want to Ukrainize the city you need to start with the primer! And not from history or advertising ...
  40. lg41
    +1
    14 July 2014 17: 50
    At the end of the 19th and beginning of the 20th centuries, the Western Ukrainian regions were territorially part of Austria-Hungary. The official doctrine of this state was aimed at the physical destruction of the Slavs - Rus, living in these regions through concentration camps. Officially vacated housing, the land was reissued to the Gallic.
    The Gallicans are even genetically different from the Slavs and Russians. The fact that their "govirka" is similar to the Ukrainian "mov" cannot serve as a basis for classifying them as Slavs.
    According to the 1940 census in Lviv, more than 40% of the population were Jews. Almost the same proportion of the population of the city were Poles. As a result of the events of 40-45, only 12% of the population remained in the city. The vacant apartments, houses of an almost empty city were occupied by Gallicians, calling in from the Carpathian farms.
    Now history is repeating itself AGAIN! Carrying out the policy of cleansing the eastern regions, Ukrainian statesmen promise to give the vacated apartments, houses, land to ATO activists, proclaiming at the same time: “... Education and culture will belong only to the titular nation, and not to pigs who speak the bastard Tatar-Mordovian language. In democratic Ukraine, every true patriot will have slaves. Let the icy cattle work, since b is not a man ... He can live only for the sake of working for a real owner - a Ukrainian. If he doesn’t want it, it’s a dog's death! I must, by conscientious work, bring about my right to live among us. "
    At the same time, the Gallicians are officially positioned as the elite of the Ukrainian nation.
  41. Caa
    0
    14 July 2014 17: 50
    Quote: Consul-t
    Every century we give vaccinations to Europe, but for a long time is not enough.


    The fact is that Europe is mentally ill ... vaccinations cannot help it. Now it is becoming violent, so I would not have to put in a punishment cell. And first you need to remove the "tick" - the United States. At least there will be less poison.
    1. +1
      14 July 2014 19: 15
      Buzz, Buzz, Buzz. What exactly is "needed"? request
  42. 0
    15 July 2014 00: 33
    I thought about writing about the meaning of this article ... I won’t (the next article about Ukraine, didn’t you get bored?)
    I will say this ... today I heard that VV Svolota again demands the abolition of the regional language. Refer to its contradiction with the Constitution (by the way, the law was written by Odessa lawyers - there is compliance with the Constitution, which grants the right to speak any language)
    But this is not about legal subtleties (it is easy to prove their bankruptcy in court)
    we are talking about the fact that in February these moral freaks and traitors to the Motherland (in this case, Ukraine) were already allowed to do this! After that we got Crimea and SE.
    And they were silent .. I don’t know if they felt guilty or shut them up, but they were silent.
    But for just trying to repeat February, they already need to be jailed for the collapse of Ukraine ..
    Ironically..nationalists who are fighting "For Ukraine" should be imprisoned for the collapse of Ukraine ... Or an attempt.
    They are the best "agents of the Kremlin" laughing because after their work in Ukraine something "falls off" ....

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