Two M-346 training aircraft arrived in the Israeli Air Force

According to the Blog The Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies referring to flightglobal.com, 9 in July, the Israeli Air Force received two training aircraft M-346 Master, built by the Italian company Alenia Aermacchi, which is part of the Finmeccanica group.

In total, the contract worth 1 billion dollars, signed in July 2012, provides for the transfer of 30 aircraft that have received the name Lavi in ​​Israel. In addition, the agreement includes the supply of engines, simulators, spare parts, as well as pilot training and aircraft maintenance.

As of July 9, the enterprise is completing the final assembly of another X-NUMX M-6 aircraft. In addition, five are in the initial assembly stage. In 346, the Israeli Air Force will receive 2014 M-9, in 346 - 2015, and in 18 - the latest 2016.

The M-346 training aircraft will be replaced by McDonnell Douglas TA-4H / J Skyhawk (Ayit) aircraft, which are in service with the 102 squadron deployed at the Hzerim airbase.

It is worth noting that Israel has become the largest customer of these aircraft. Previously they were ordered by the Italian Air Force (6 units) and Singapore (12 units), and in February, 2014 was signed by Poland for the supply of 8 M-346.

Comments

[Magic archer]

Poured Yak-130 .... cleverly Italians fussed

[RESEARCHER]

Outwardly similar. Moreover, the OKB them. Yakovleva collaborated with them. But Italians can only do what is on wheels on the ground (cars and bicycles).

[fzr1000]

What about motorcycles? Forgot? And Beretta, Binelli?

[Bayonet]

Quote: RESEARCHER

But Italians can only do what is on wheels on the ground (cars and bicycles).

Between the two world wars, Italy established itself as an aviation power. The Royal Italian Air Force - Regia Aeronautica - was considered one of the most advanced in the world. During this period, Regia Aeronautica (hereinafter RA) won 96 international awards for achievements in aviation. Italian aircraft were known throughout the world. In 1939, just before Italy entered the war, it was the third largest civilian commercial fleet, after Germany and Great Britain. The most important branches of the military industry of Italy are helicopter, shipbuilding, engine building, armored, aviation, electronic and space industries. The main manufacturers of military aircraft in Italy (excluding weapons systems and engines) are the firms Alia Aeronautica, Aermacki, as well as CO.BR.AT, DEMA, Aero Secur, Lital, Piagio Aero Industries, and Salver. " The annual output is 2,05 billion euros. Aermakki specializes in the design and manufacture of mainly training and combat aircraft. 1800 people are employed in the production. Aermakki factories produce SF 260, M-290TR, S-211A, MV-339, M-346 aircraft. The training aircraft (UTS) of the new generation M-346, created jointly with the Design Bureau named after A.S.Yakovlev, is the Italian version of the UTS Yak / AEM-130.

[svp67]

Quote: Magic Archer

Poured Yak-130 .... cleverly Italians fussed

So if the Italians have been working in close cooperation with the Yakovlevites for a long time, so why be surprised ...

[Magic archer]

I know! The glider is fully developed by Ilyushin Design Bureau. It's a shame another thing. We actually created it, with the exception of the engine and avionics, and the Italians cut the money ...

[IFreedman]

Quote: Magic Archer

I know! The glider is fully developed by Ilyushin Design Bureau. It's a shame another thing. We actually created it, with the exception of the engine and avionics, and the Italians cut the money ...

This has already been discussed. They worked together, then parted, but agreed that the UC supplies its aircraft only to the CIS, and Italians - to all other countries.

[Magic archer]

They divided the market perfectly! Who shared it like that?))) Just like in a Wedding in Robin! And this is for you and it is again for you

[IFreedman]

Quote: Magic Archer

They divided the market perfectly! Who shared it like that?))) Just like in a Wedding in Robin! And this is for you and it is again for you

So divided ...
In general, not everything is so sad for the Russian manufacturer. In the Russian Air Force, it is necessary to update the UBS fleet, this is not bad money. Well, traditional customers: Belarus, Syria, then Ukraine (was).
But pasta will have to compete with Czechs, Koreans, Americans, Brazilians, etc.

[Bayonet]

Quote: Magic Archer

) Just like at a Wedding in the Robin! And this is for you and it is again for you

In this case, it will be more accurate - "this is me, this is me again ..."

[NC1982]

Syria is not yet the CIS, but they have already delivered the Yak-130.

[cyberspace]

Quote: IFreedman

Yak supplies its aircraft only in the CIS, and Italians - to all other countries.

Somewhat not so divided - Italians do not deliver to the CIS, Russia to NATO, to other countries - as the competition determines.

[IFreedman]

Quote: siber

Quote: IFreedman

Yak supplies its aircraft only in the CIS, and Italians - to all other countries.

Somewhat not so divided - Italians do not deliver to the CIS, Russia to NATO, to other countries - as the competition determines.

Maybe so. Vicki thinks otherwise:

L'Alenia Aermacchi retained the rights to distribute and market the aircraft worldwide, with the exception of the CIS (including Russia).

[cyberspace]

Quote: IFreedman

Vicki thinks otherwise

And when did Vicki think Syria, Algeria and Vietnam entered the CIS?

[ultra]

Quote: IFreedman

but agreed that the UC supplies its aircraft only to the CIS, and Italians - to all other countries.

How did you agree? In words?

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Magic Archer

I know! The glider is fully developed by Ilyushin Design Bureau. It's a shame another thing. We actually created it, with the exception of the engine and avionics, and the Italians cut the money ...

If so, many thanks to Russian aircraft designers. I hope that the pilots trained on the M-346 and on the Yak-130 will never fight with each other.

[Bayonet]

Quote: Magic Archer

.We actually created it, with the exception of the engine and avionics, and the Italians cut the money ...

Why buy an Italian plane, not our Yak? What do you think ?

[Giant thought]

The Israelis have not in vain ordered so many combat training aircraft, many pilots will be preparing. This is all done in anticipation of the expected losses, i.e. they already know for sure that they will fight.

[Pimply]

Quote: Thought Giant

The Israelis have not in vain ordered so many combat training aircraft, many pilots will be preparing. This is all done in anticipation of the expected losses, i.e. they already know for sure that they will fight.

You are talking nonsense. Just replace all old planes

[ruslan207]

And rhinestones were inclined to purchase Korean supersonic t-50s, English hawks are no worse

[ruslan207]

And rhinestones were inclined to purchase Korean supersonic t-50s, English hawks are no worse

[voyaka uh]

In the Israeli Air Force, the norm is 3 equally trained crews for combat
aircraft. Therefore, pilots are always trained "with a margin". This is to
a combat aircraft could be days in the air, descending only to change the pilot
and replenishment of ammunition.

[Paradoxov]

Goofy plagiarism!
About forty years ago, I remember somewhere in the suburbs flying overhead such

[boom_bah]

In the sense - in advance? This was their joint development with the Yakovlev Design Bureau, until they parted at a certain stage. Of course, they are "brothers" (find ... differences ) Just markets are officially divided. Israel is not part of our aura. Till. We have, as it were, only the CIS. (we have Syria in the CIS ).

[Peace Russian]

How many Italians did not work, did not see anything worthwhile! All equipment is constantly breaking, ambition is higher than the roof, and the effect is zero!

[boom_bah]

With all due respect. I didn’t work with Italians, but the first thing that comes to mind: car industry, small arms, pizza . As for aviation, they have good traditions. Almost everything works pretty well.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Peaceful Russian

How many Italians did not work, did not see anything worthwhile! All equipment is constantly breaking, ambition is higher than the roof, and the effect is zero!

As I remember "Zhiguli", I say so.

[Bayonet]

Quote: Mirny Russian

All equipment is constantly breaking

Breaking is not necessary!

[The Art of War]

I agree to the Yak -130 more like that!

[dr.star75]

Where do they all fit then?

[Khalmamed]

GOOD DAY TO ALL PEOPLE AND HEALTH TO YOU RUSSIA!

..... "rams" for the future we WILL have nothing to HELP cheaters!

[KAPITANUS]

Yes, in general, it doesn’t matter what they arrived. The Zulus have new spears and fresh poison curare, but do not care for them.

[atalef]

Quote: KAPITANUS

Yes, in general, it doesn’t matter what they arrived. The Zulus have new spears and fresh poison curare, but do not care for them.

Moldova? You can not continue

[Apollo]

quote-As of July 9, the enterprise is completing the final assembly of another 6 M-346 aircraft. In addition, five are at the initial assembly stage. In 2014, the Israeli Air Force will receive 9 M-346, in 2015 - 18, and in 2016 - the latest 3.

[Khalmamed]

minus for what?
for your sincere desire? - "GOOD DAY TO ALL PEOPLE AND GOOD TO YOU RUSSIAN!"
for the truth? - FOR THE FUTURE WE WILL KNOW NOTHING TO HELP the cheaters!

[Magic archer]

I put you a plus. There is nothing out of the blue people are set to spoil

[Neighbor from below]

It’s good that at least someone helps Israel, otherwise the Arabs squeezed in a vice.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Downstairs Neighbor

It’s good that at least someone helps Israel, otherwise the Arabs squeezed in a vice.

Well, how the Arabs are fighting, it’s now clearly visible in Iraq. The army is either scattering, or fighting so that the whole world is hardened.

[Pimply]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Well, how the Arabs are fighting, it’s now clearly visible in Iraq. The army is either scattering, or fighting so that the whole world is hardened.

They run away from other Arabs

[Krogan_Urdnot]

Where is the help, a billion bucks, business and nothing more))

[avt]

Quote: Downstairs Neighbor

It’s good that at least someone helps Israel, otherwise the Arabs squeezed in a vice.

Yeah, just the same boobs are crumpled! That's just the question of who to whom. They pinched them specifically once at the very beginning, well, then when Stalin, represented by the USSR representative in the UN, Gromyko, announced that Israel had the right to exist and threw weapons from captured and produced in Czechoslovakia - Messers from the backlog with Yumo engines in particular and Spitfires that the Angles gave the Czechs when they moved to La "and Me-262. Again, they drove all this through Yugoslavia. diplomacy and scored on the Levant in general, and Tito also got it.

[atalef]

Quote: Downstairs Neighbor

It’s good that at least someone helps Israel,

Does it help?

The Italian Defense Ministry has signed a contract with the Israeli state-owned company Israel Aerospace Industries for the supply of two early warning radar aircraft based on Gulfstream G550 passenger liners, Flightglobal reports. The deal amounted to $ 750 million. In parallel, an agreement was signed to create a tracking satellite for the Italian company Telespazio worth $ 182 million.

As part of the Israeli Air Force, G550-based AWACS are designated Eitam. The flight range of the aircraft is about ten thousand kilometers, and cruising speed - 900 kilometers per hour. The aircraft’s avionics kit includes the EL / W-2085 radar with a phased array in the conformal compartment, electronic warfare equipment, and radio and electronic reconnaissance systems.

According to Flightglobal, the conclusion of contracts with Israel for a total of $ 932 million was Italy’s retaliatory move to purchase the M-346 Master Italian training combat aircraft by the Israeli side. The supply contract for the 30 M-346 was signed on July 19; its value amounted to 600 million dollars.

[corporal]

Quote: Magic Archer

Poured Yak-130 ..

So a collaborative development glider. We have Yak, they have M 346. Only here each engine and avionics.
I wonder what it is that Israel buys from Italy for 30 mln. Green for a car and not from us for 15-18? It seems like money is considered accustomed. Or, again, politics instead of the market?

[Pimply]

Quote: Corporal

So a collaborative development glider. We have Yak, they have M 346. Only here each engine and avionics.
I wonder what it is that Israel buys from Italy for 30 mln. Green for a car and not from us for 15-18? It seems like money is considered accustomed. Or, again, politics instead of the market?

Not only. Italians have a large number of composites in construction

[Baatyr]

Very beautiful plane!
"Only beautiful planes fly well." Tupolev A.N.
"For a plane to fight well, it must be beautiful." Marcel Daso.

[bmv04636]

and we have "willow" entered the eastern military district

[voyaka uh]

The tender was still South Koreans. I would prefer their plane. Because the tender
was bartering. Israel is unleashed by arms. Which Italy doesn’t need,
unlike South Korea.