Leonid Ivashov: Today in Russia, the most unprofessional government in the world

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Our "Military Power Union of Russia" initiated the creation of the "Sovereign Union of Russia". The front, as hastily began to call the new press association, is not the best name — we don’t want to fight anyone. Moreover, in their own country. But this term was adopted as a compromise after Putin announced the creation of his Popular Front.

Our solution has not matured spontaneously. We have long been waiting for the tandem to offer for Russia at least something that can save it from ruin and destruction, which will set some new course of development. However, besides chatter, idle talk and round-the-clock PR, we did not see anything. Whether it will be the front on the part of Putin, or will be called something else, but this liberal course and the Pharisee model of power are still preserved. So, lead the country to trouble.

Whoever sits in the Kremlin chambers, whoever sits in the White House, Russia is ruled by an oligarchy. All our politics, both external and internal, is aimed at raising an oligarchic class. It is no coincidence that on the background of the ruin as a result of the crisis of small and medium-sized enterprises, the impoverishment of the masses, we are constantly being forced into this liberal model. There is no way to allow this.

Modern Russian power is unable to govern, and the lower classes do not want such power. As a result, we see the general anger of the masses, of all segments of the population. And from the opposite side they are still trying to continue this disastrous course. If today we do not offer a strong-willed decision about power in Russia, we can get unrest, revolt, civil war and anything.

Therefore, we propose to unite the masses who want to change the political course of Russia.

Those who want to see Russia as an independent power in the community of world states.

Those who want the country to turn from a warehouse of resources, which is sold to the right and left, into a power producing a cultural, intellectual and technological product.

We consider the Russian people as a subject responsible for all the indigenous peoples of Russia. We need to build a course that will be convenient for everyone. There is already a Muslim movement in our union, and the rest will catch up. Today, everyone feels the scourge of separation. Who began to live better after the collapse of the USSR? Yes, a certain stratum in 2%, both here and in the rest of the new states in this territory, except perhaps Belarus.

Until now, no republic has reached the level of social and economic status of 1990 of the year. The Soviet Union ended its existence on the 4 technological structure of the economy. There were also directions where we already broke through into the fifth technological mode. We did not lag behind either the United States or Europe, and were approximately equal to them. Today they have mastered the fifth technological order, China is somewhere at the level of the fourth fixed, while in the meantime we have slipped into the third. If we talk about, for example, Kyrgyzstan or Tajikistan, it is even lower there.

We are moving in the opposite direction, but the current government cannot offer anything.

I am a supporter of design work. If we talk about the CIS, we can take as a basis the draft of the Eurasian Union of Nursultan Nazarbayev, jointly finalize it and accept it as a basis. Not just the Customs Union is just one particle of the whole. Need a common project.

We must clearly state what place in the world we wanted to have in the quality of this Union - where our niche is. And we have something to offer - and the project of a new philosophy of life, because with the current model, humanity is approaching a catastrophe. And a new type of international security system, or world order - it's time to change the universal international organizations, such as the UN Security Council, etc. We have both developments and publications on this. For example, I recently spoke in Greece with this project.

We need to create our global economic zone. Today there are three of them - North America, Europe and China. We also have a southern zone project - Russia-Iran-India as the basis. And we need each other - Russian minds and technologies, the Iranian model as transit to India, the Indian consumer market, joint technological projects, etc. And the whole CIS space fits into this global project. Of course, a common cultural, educational and scientific space should be formed within the framework of the Eurasian Union. In another way, simply will not survive. And the economy of our countries, all resources must work for every citizen and for society as a whole.

Our principle is the people's parliament, people's government, people's president. We will interact with those political parties that are already represented in the Duma. In particular, we will suggest the interaction of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, which may become the core of consolidation. For example, we jointly go to the Duma and, depending on the percentage of votes cast, the composition of the deputies is determined. But the main thing is that we jointly nominate a presidential candidate.

Now we do not call anyone, but in Russia there are a lot of talents and worthy citizens - much more than we can see on television. They are in university circles, and in the governor's building, they just do not allow them to the screen. A presidential candidate will be nominated conciliarly, a general decision. That he was not a communist. If Gennady Andreyevich Zyuganov wants to become such a candidate against the will of the cathedral, it will be folly on his part.

I have already said in the media that even any honest and educated village teacher will bring more benefit to Russia at this place than the current tandem. At least he will not rob. He can be a nominal figure, which will be surrounded by real and decent professionals. Today in Russia, the most unprofessional government in the world. Agrarians should be engaged in agriculture, the military-industrial complex - military specialists. And who is a professional in our government, except Shoigu and Lavrov? All other outsiders. What can they do?

It is necessary to transform the system of government. Not the way it is happening now, from the ceiling - Medvedev dreamed of something, woke up and went to Skolkovo or to the Central Internal Affairs Directorate. There should be a strategic decision-making body, and in our opinion the Council of State should be such a body.

We have a pre-painted composition who could be in it. It will be necessary, we will, of course, make it public, but the basis in any case should be the governors and the heads of regional administrations. After all, we are, after all, a federal state. Putting the governors in a position like today is a crime. It is not clear whether he is elected, or whether he is appointed, what his powers are. During his term, the governor may never meet or even talk over the phone with the president, because the subscribers have a different clientele. For some reason, the president has time to meet with a rock band, but there is no time to accept the governor. Have you ever seen him accept any governor and together they discussed the development program of this or that region? Such a system needs to be broken.

The State Council must have a security council, a higher economic council, councils on culture, science, nationality, and so on. And the core of the Council should be the best professionals of Russia, not Fursenko, who believes that our education should prepare a competitive consumer. To offer the president this or that decision should the Council of Wise Men.

And most importantly, in the country you just need to establish an elementary order. Today, no matter what sphere you take, everywhere is crime and corruption, the uttermost mess. And the fact that Putin and Medvedev during 24 hours do not disappear from the television screen, the order no longer becomes.
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  1. Oleg
    0
    1 July 2011 09: 03
    Is this, again, to rewrite the Constitution?
  2. lan76
    0
    1 July 2011 09: 13
    To adjust pricing, it is enough to take control of gas prices and diesel fuel and just lower them automatically, prices for everything else will start to fall. After all, half the price of goods is gasoline.
    1. Superduck
      0
      1 July 2011 12: 26
      In Ukraine under Tymoshenko they tried to do this, in Russia a couple of months ago, also in some regions, if I am not mistaken. As a result, gasoline disappeared, prices soared, and then when gas appeared, prices did not fall. This does not work.
  3. -2
    1 July 2011 11: 21
    tired of it "analyst" Ivashov
    Here are some facts:
    As a military analyst, L. Ivashova perfectly characterizes the track record:

    since 1976 - D.F.Ustinov, head of the apparatus of the USSR Minister of Defense Marshal of the Soviet Union
    since 1987 - head of the affairs department of the USSR Ministry of Defense,
    in 1992-1996 - Secretary of the Council of Ministers of Defense of the CIS member states,
    in 1996-2001 - head of the Main Directorate of International Military Cooperation of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation (what international cooperation was under Yeltsin we know)

    Here is such a great specialist, all his life he worked as a clerical rat in great posts, seven years in retirement, and there is also an excellent military expert. Since General Ivashov is the leader of all kinds of national "patriotic" movements, the people take his words with confidence. Of course - "a man with his soul is rooting for our army" (c), not a liberal in the end.
  4. dmb
    0
    1 July 2011 11: 56
    Ivashov (if he reads) With deep respect, I treat you. But I would like to get an answer to the following questions: 1) Who are those worthy, who can lead the country. There was nothing left before the election, and of the real opposition for which one can vote, only the Communist Party, and even that is led by a completely worthless person. 2) How are you going to tell the people about these worthy ones? Whoever has the media in their hands knows everything. 3) Are you firmly convinced of the honesty of the vote? How do you intend to prevent falsification already tested in 1996 and 2006? 4) Are you seriously sure that the existing power, having lost the elections, will voluntarily part with it? Those characteristics that you give her, and with which I completely agree, completely dismiss this possibility. 5) What do you intend to do in this case? Thank you in advance for your reply.
  5. Sergey M.
    Sergey M.
    -1
    1 July 2011 14: 15
    For Ragnarek
    If you are talking about Ivashov, then bring the personal path of our guarantor, Medvedev.
    We are waiting!
    1. -1
      1 July 2011 14: 17
      and who said that Medvedev is my guarantor? thank God without a guarantor I live somehow. And about Ivashov, he brought the info only because I don’t like when FIG knows who is building himself a great analyst and strategist.
  6. Stavr
    Stavr
    +1
    1 July 2011 14: 49
    I did not understand: is Ragnarek coming out a great analyst and strategist, or what? Brother, you’re not good enough for Leonid Ivashov!
    1. 0
      1 July 2011 14: 52
      Where did you see my comment with analytics? I do not pretend. but Ivashov, too, is not an analyst; there are more worthy people.
      at the expense I fit in soles or not fit - everyone is good in its place
  7. mitrich
    0
    1 July 2011 14: 57
    STAVR,
    don’t take my words as a desire to grapple with you again, but RAGNAREC, in my opinion, citing Ivashov’s biography, wrote that this strategist was a cabinet general and chaos, nothing more. Well, what can you do that Ivashov is not Gromov? And whether you like his articles or not, this is your personal matter. Sorry, STAVR, if you offended.
  8. Sergey M.
    Sergey M.
    0
    1 July 2011 16: 11
    Lord comrades!
    If someone says A, then he SHOULD SAY B, otherwise - a prostitute.
    Medvedev is a typical cabinet worker. Who will deny?
    Where does Medvedev practice?
    Only up and up.

    And Colonel General Ivashov has respect from the military. He has a normal position for the country.
    Or someone for a stool?
  9. mitrich
    +1
    1 July 2011 16: 29
    SERGEY M.,
    firstly, you boldly declared respect from ALL military. And if some military do not agree with respect? So you really are for yourself, please, I do not mind.
    Secondly, ex-general Ivashov took as a basis the most simple, popular rhetoric. The rhetoric of criticism of the current government. A win-win. I’m starting to grind like that - will you vote for me?
    Thirdly, what to criticize when the ass is in shit. In the 1990s, as far as I remember, he was responsible for the Yugoslav trend, without the slightest success.
    Fourthly, I do not like the "Arbat" generals with their biographies. I still don't like Tolboev, but not because of his biography, but because he comments on every plane crash the next day, as the ultimate truth.
    That's it, my friend Sergey M.
  10. Stavr
    Stavr
    +2
    1 July 2011 16: 31
    I have great respect for Colonel-General Leonid Ivashov.
    Shake my hand firmly, Stavr. We, perhaps, are like-minded people, although thousands of kilometers separate us.
  11. +2
    1 July 2011 16: 55
    I almost always agree with Ivashov!
  12. Serey M.
    Serey M.
    +1
    1 July 2011 17: 27
    Ivashov, Primakov - Yugoslavia wasn’t handed over, as were Gromov Afgan and Shamans with other Chechnya.
    Everyone handed over politicians. Yeltsins, Berezovskys ..., yes, and the Poles of Grachy are also licking.

    No need to run into honest generals.

    Yes, someone Mitrich - I was not there, I'm in the Navy.
    And who are you? Stab!
    You weren’t there either.
    Who are you for?
  13. mitrich
    0
    1 July 2011 17: 48
    Major I, mayor, SERGEY M.
    Write an autobiography? Or will you manage?
    You, my friend, yourself have discovered a strange detail. You are SERGEY M., then SEREI M. Explain to me, stupid, why.
    Forgot to add. I am for Putin.
  14. His
    0
    1 July 2011 17: 56
    Ivashov realizes he is against the current Minister of Defense
  15. Sergey M.
    Sergey M.
    -3
    1 July 2011 18: 22
    You, my friend, yourself have discovered a strange detail. You are SERGEY M., then SEREI M. Explain to me, stupid, why.

    Putins, it is not understandable. Only, "Major" didn't say who you are? And where?
    And lope and when!

    I do not like these dudes. Who in life ???? .......... but steadfastly tin one-legged soldier stands for power that the people will not see.
    1. MichaelVl
      +1
      1 July 2011 20: 06
      Sergey M.,
      And when did we have a strong power then loved? The people of our fashion have such a custom - to criticize.
      Click here, dear, here’s a reference and listen to what the Americans are saying about Putin. Although, I suspect that with your position in life, at least give me this link, put God at the head of Russia, one thing will be - everyone has been bought, sold and bought, and only you know how to live right and what to do :)

      Fox News radio station: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5q2xUjkv9d8&feature=autoplay&list=PLDBBFA804331DD

      99B & index = 24 & playnext = 4
  16. mitrich
    0
    1 July 2011 18: 26
    What blurted out - did not understand. Are you a drunk or something, sailor SERGEY M.?
  17. Sergey M.
    Sergey M.
    -4
    1 July 2011 18: 37
    And you are just a slug. And I'm sober.
  18. mitrich
    +1
    1 July 2011 18: 46
    SERGEY M.,
    Well - offended! In the most real way - offended!
    Understand, my friend, I’m not at all trying to improve your worldview. Like Ivashov - yes, let him enjoy your health! Read it, love, appreciate, you can write out quotes - it's up to you.
    But I think differently than you, and you should not be offended by this.
    I hope that we will agree on other issues, SERGEY M.
  19. Sergey M.
    Sergey M.
    -3
    1 July 2011 18: 52
    You are not a major.
    And you were nobody, like "buddy" - what are you mowing under Muller?

    Officers since you are not talking.
    You are nobody.
    You can declare yourself Colonel General - but according to the statements - everything is clear right away.
    I have the honor.
  20. mitrich
    0
    1 July 2011 18: 54
    Thank you.
  21. mitrich
    0
    1 July 2011 19: 00
    I do not see the need to participate more in the forum. Thank you, Seryozha.
  22. Sergey M.
    Sergey M.
    -5
    1 July 2011 20: 59
    For "MikhailVl"

    Is this pressure on the girl "mitrich"?

    Another one was found with an indefinitely stupid position.
    Cho you ..... need from your comments?
    I just answer them.
    And you ask them.
    What do you want?
    Or are you "mitrich"?
    That. is there a woman?

    Look for happiness wherever you want and under what happens.
    1. MichaelVl
      0
      1 July 2011 23: 12
      Sergey M.,
      My position is just the same. I threw a reference in my comment for an example. Did you listen to her? I’ll answer for you - you didn’t listen to anything and did not think about anything, because you are hysterical against everyone who disagrees with you. That's why everything is bad for you in life, because everything around you is to blame. Here we are all bad, and in the state - our managers. Here is my opinion about you, Sailor Sergey M.

      And I don’t need anything from you at all. You entered the forum, said your opinion, and I expressed mine, that's all. And with such a hysterical person like you I never get involved, for it is ridiculous to look at such defective creatures like you, a miracle! I wouldn’t even beat you, because you will begin to pour tears before the fight :)
  23. +3
    1 July 2011 21: 33
    Over the past 25 years, we have the most productive government, or is it worth recalling the times of vouchers and default?
    1. His
      0
      1 July 2011 21: 34
      I agree. There is something to compare. In general, we go from bad to good
    2. MichaelVl
      0
      1 July 2011 22: 50
      DAGESTAN333, I agree unequivocally. We are moving normally!

      But there are comrades (such as those offended by Sergei M.) who whine on the topic that we are all degrading and falling apart ... Only in 20 years we can’t fall apart in any way, but only grow stronger. Our mother Russia, dear Sergey M., is getting stronger for you with the help of Putin, and Medvedev too. :)
    3. 0
      5 February 2012 20: 13
      God give Russia time to get out of the Yeltsin pit. Ivashov respect. Man cares about the future of Russia.
  24. Sergey M.
    Sergey M.
    -12
    1 July 2011 21: 39
    For site administration only.

    Why do you put a score in front of each comment?
    EXPLAIN US!
    What, like, are you GODS, who has the right to EVALUATE PEOPLE?

    Only you have the right to ban, but do not give an assessment to everyone!

    CLEAR TO YOU?
    No need to greet!
    1. slan
      +2
      1 July 2011 21: 48
      Register and also be able to put plus / minus to other people's comments.
    2. 0
      4 July 2011 02: 00
      This is exhibited by registered visitors.
  25. mitrich
    +2
    1 July 2011 21: 52
    You know, the curse removed, SEREZH M. I’m ready to fill you with a fucking-up pen anywhere you tell me, tell me at least a point on the map of Russia where you can be calculated. I read you, you bastard, and laughed, I thought that I was with the naval officer in correspondence, but now I realized - the next scum is a provocateur! Come on, fart something, vomit!
    1. +3
      1 July 2011 22: 12
      Mitrich, dear, please do not be nervous. You see, the person is not in adequate, well, let yourself indulge. People respect you, your position in life, although many may disagree with you. These Sergey M. only achieve that normal people would spoil their mood. Happy weekend!
      1. +2
        1 July 2011 22: 19
        I agree with the Cheese
      2. His
        0
        1 July 2011 23: 22
        Then probably Friday influenced someone, or he was fucked in life
    2. voin-xnumx
      0
      4 July 2011 05: 56
      mitrich: we are not familiar with you, but you should not exchange and pay attention to everyone. I went to this site solely because I wanted to learn new things or discuss the history of arms and military equipment, and no more. All those who are gundos about the frailty of our weapons or did not serve at all are simply authentic Cossacks. Such a place at the bucket.
  26. mitrich
    0
    1 July 2011 22: 27
    ost,
    I am not against different points of view. You and I, I remember, argued on the forum. But this bastard, after all, hits the very gut! I told him a little about myself, but as soon as I opened up, so immediately "the wrong one" and " you're lying -> you're lying ". I'm not a Caucasian, of course, but I take accusations of lies to heart, especially since I did not infringe on this bastard in his faith. Honestly, because of several people, including you (do not count that licked) and I forum.
    1. voin-xnumx
      0
      4 July 2011 06: 04
      Read the post at the top. Take it easy. If you write something to the mail, we'll figure it out.
  27. mitrich
    0
    1 July 2011 22: 32
    And further. I ran into UNGU in due time. Now I apologize to him if I read, of course.
  28. Sergey M.
    Sergey M.
    -7
    1 July 2011 22: 32
    Well, that it was HERE that all the junk gathered, including the leaky product of RTI No. 2.
    Heap enjoy ...

    I STATEMENT - NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO PUT AN ESTIMATION TO COMMENTS,
    1. +3
      1 July 2011 22: 42
      Sergey M.why do we try to respect you? Do you STATE different things here? The rules are set by the owners of the site and not by us.
  29. mitrich
    0
    1 July 2011 22: 37
    Slightly open the gate yourself, if you are asking others, SERGEY M. Are you a sailor, really or was it ordinary?
    I apologized at least for the coming dream.
    1. His
      0
      1 July 2011 23: 28
      It’s dangerous to trust weapons like this, not to mention a boat
  30. mitrich
    +1
    1 July 2011 22: 54
    It’s empty, DAGESTANIAN, there’s no answer. Another "Flying Dutchman" with offensive messages.
    Do not want to talk a little?
    1. +1
      1 July 2011 22: 56
      Accepted.
  31. MichaelVl
    +2
    1 July 2011 22: 58
    Mitrich, Sergei M. is exactly m..th and is. He spread the hysteria that he had been stuck on the scores, he didn't know the rules, he was crying, the girls named us here, junk, their goods ... I haven't met such people for a long time, "SEAMANTS" :))))))))))))))))) )))))))))))))))))))))))))))) More precisely, never :)))
    Sergey M., why so much hysteria? And what right do you have to insult us all? You are the most natural one, since you behave like that.
  32. +3
    1 July 2011 23: 02
    Why shouted !?
    You interfere with sleep!
  33. mitrich
    +1
    1 July 2011 23: 02
    I remember that I had to go through an emergency in the explosive brigade in Kizlyar, but I got in the wrong place. In 1991, in my opinion, there was already tension, including shelling. All the same, I didn’t pass by the war. Tell me, DAGESTAN, why do young people go to the forests? Not all, of course, I understand, but the part is going the same?
  34. mitrich
    0
    1 July 2011 23: 05
    MIKHAIL Vl,
    I already begin to hate this Ivashov. Such a srach because of one article!
    1. MichaelVl
      +1
      1 July 2011 23: 21
      Mitrich,
      Or maybe Sergey M. - is this Ivashov? :)))

      We are waiting for the answer of the Dagestan 333.
  35. 0
    1 July 2011 23: 25
    I read here the opinion that our guys prefer the "forest" because the economic situation is pushing, etc., not quite so, the whole point is in a well-built recruiting mechanism, with the use of NLP quite often. Radicals attract young people, and only those who believe that jihad (ghazavat) exists - they took a Kalash and killed as many kafirs as possible.

    (sorry for so long)
    1. His
      0
      1 July 2011 23: 30
      I agree in part. Here the environment plays, the situation is the gangster environment, so to speak. Not everyone will find the strength to tell them that I do not play your games.
  36. mitrich
    +3
    1 July 2011 23: 28
    Mikhail Vl,
    I must pay tribute to Sergei M. Warm up, strain, shit and remain unrecognized he quite succeeded. I hate I-no because of this, is it not for the notebook to clatter on the wall as Serezha’s head?
    1. +1
      1 July 2011 23: 32
      Or maybe this Sergey M. just an enemy bot? Could this be?
    2. His
      0
      1 July 2011 23: 32
      No need to pay attention to patients. He will oversleep tomorrow and will not remember anything, but then still worry about some shit
    3. MichaelVl
      0
      2 July 2011 00: 00
      I agree, Mitrich, this is a minus and-net :))) Or maybe a plus - after all, Sailor Seryozha doesn’t fall into his arm, he remains invisible to him, but we don’t take a sin :)))) Oh well, they forgot . But I laughed heartily, honestly :)))
  37. mitrich
    0
    1 July 2011 23: 32
    I also heard the noun "apostate". And if certain representatives of the Muslim clergy professing Salafism are removed from circulation, the people of Dagestan will be indignant, what do you think?
    1. 0
      1 July 2011 23: 40
      Take what? .... I wanted to ask ... ... but it seems I understood that the Salafis should keep up with the grass, otherwise the feds might not have time to save them by sitting in jails, they are not the only ones who can fight here, honestly, many of us have nerves they don’t stand it, our sheikhs only calm us down.
  38. mitrich
    0
    1 July 2011 23: 44
    Do you want to say that the Dagestanis are being restrained by the federals from reprisal against the Salafis? Did I understand you correctly?
    1. 0
      1 July 2011 23: 47
      Yes. More precisely, the constitution and our principles.
  39. mitrich
    0
    1 July 2011 23: 52
    DAGESTAN,
    do not write as if we were with you at a rally of "United Russia".
    Another question: You are a connoisseur of Islam. Is it true that according to Islamic canons, Jesus Christ is one of the prophets?
    1. 0
      2 July 2011 00: 01
      Honestly, I didn’t think about it, write off my thinking.

      A KNOWLEDGE - it would be too loud, it would be more correct to say - I adhere.

      Jesus (GIisa) (GI.s.) - it is, the penultimate prophet.
  40. mitrich
    0
    2 July 2011 00: 07
    The last question.
    You wrote that the Avar is by nationality. So, they should know whether the transfer of 2 Avar villages to Azerbaijan in recent days is true. Is it true?
    1. 0
      2 July 2011 00: 12
      Fall asleep?

      Unfortunately I can’t answer, I don’t know, but there are such villages, even my friends were from there.
    2. 0
      2 July 2011 00: 14
      mitrich can you drop the mail in my mail?
  41. mitrich
    0
    2 July 2011 00: 22
    DAGESTAN,
    Thanks for the clarification and generally for the support. Although I must say that you are just an example of political correctness. In this regard, I’m definitely a bigger Caucasian, a granny, however, you won’t ask about this topic anymore ...
    I’ll drop the mail if you explain what it is.
    See you tomorrow, friend!
    1. +1
      2 July 2011 00: 28
      Good night.

      friend - this is serious.
    2. +1
      2 July 2011 00: 46
      I will send you an email at this site tomorrow.
  42. +2
    2 July 2011 00: 28
    I had a chance to communicate with Ivashov personally, and participated in a sinful affair as a delegate at one of the congresses of the Sovereign Union. Ivashov sincerely believes in what he says and writes. The problem is different. Many of the leaders of this Sovereign Union themselves dream of power, but Ivashov does not. He is honest, intelligent, but in some ways utopian, idiolizing the readiness of the entire Russian people for decisive action. Such people are definitely needed. Such excite the consciousness of the masses, not letting them go into hibernation according to our not the best tradition. But in the state in which Russia is now, people like Ivashov, honest to the bone and uncompromising to fanaticism, will lead Russia to a civil war. Therefore, based on the principle of least evil, I personally am for Putin.
    1. +1
      2 July 2011 00: 34
      Victor, here people got into a fight, had you had time before, and your comment would not have allowed this.
  43. +2
    2 July 2011 01: 12
    DAGESTANETS333 Unfortunately, he was busy in the garden, arrived late, to debriefing, as they say. Yes, by the way, I read your correspondence with Mitrich. It’s certainly interesting. Personally, I taught a lot and, in fact, gave a ticket to life, the chief of artillery 98 VDD under the USSR. Colonel Kuliev Shamil Magomedovich-Avar. Truly beautiful and strong man.
  44. +1
    2 July 2011 10: 18
    mitrich great.

    Check your mail through your account.
  45. mitrich
    +1
    2 July 2011 10: 34
    DAGESTAN,
    Did I reply to that letter? Or did you send me something else today?
    1. 0
      2 July 2011 10: 41
      I realized the connection test, otherwise they didn’t react before.

      I'll write more soon.
  46. mitrich
    0
    3 July 2011 09: 06
    VICTOR,
    agreed, I'm taking my run-ins on Ivashov back. After all, unlike you, I have never seen him or talked to him in my life. Yesterday I watched "The Last Word" on NTV - there was talk about corruption in the army - he took part there, however, not with the first violin, but what he said was, in general, correct.

    SERGEY M.,
    you bastard, you bastard ... Even your apology is lacking in spirit. The naval ones didn’t behave like that for a long time, whom I know, those people are literate, though sharp, but kindly. And you are just a bastard.
  47. Jury
    +1
    3 July 2011 18: 53
    Again "let's" ... And try ... mobilize ...
  48. Sergey M.
    Sergey M.
    0
    3 July 2011 19: 28
    As for all the bastards - look at yourself in the mirror in the morning when you shave.
    You just have your own party here, and I wedged myself. Well then - the stranger is more unpleasant.

    And then a stream of dirt from you - who else is there in the club.

    I forgive everyone.
    Neher climb ... One-deleted-, that no one says - nothing depends on the site.

    And to put the site owners + - for each post - this is to keep everyone with monkeys on a leash - I liked the dog - I’ll give her a bone.
    Well fight further with the mills .... Good luck!
  49. mitrich
    0
    3 July 2011 19: 46
    It’s a pity, Sergei M., that you didn’t understand anything.
    And for the bastard Sorry, since I began to forgive. I have no desire to write anything more to you.
  50. Sergey M.
    Sergey M.
    -1
    3 July 2011 23: 23
    To close the topic about me, "RTI # 2" is your mutual friend "Ost"
    How did he paraffin me on another branch 3 days ago. And who stopped this mess? I did not rush such words.
    Everything, a loner will do nothing for you.
    Live together!
    Heap up.
  51. +2
    3 July 2011 23: 46
    Quote: Sergey M.
    And to put the site owners + - for each post - this is to keep everyone with monkeys on a leash - I liked the dog - I’ll give her a bone.


    The grades are given by you registered opponents, not “owners.” This is how people show their solidarity or their disagreement with the comment.
  52. Sergey M.
    Sergey M.
    0
    4 July 2011 01: 05
    I'm also registered.
    And where can I see these ratings, who gives them and how?
    Tell EVERYONE REGISTERED!

    No one will be allowed in here without registration.
    In short, everything is wrong.
    This is so that there are some more numbers next to your post.
    He has been resting for 37 years.
    Give each other pros and cons - just tell the figs how?
    FUNNY ! And this is such bullshit!
  53. Sergey M.
    Sergey M.
    0
    4 July 2011 02: 31
    And the last.
    Where is this site registered? Where is his address?
    Try to find out who didn’t find out - yes, in Europe, not in my country.
    And why? - taxes? Or a NATO project?
    THE BROTHEL CONTINUES!
  54. cabin boy
    0
    4 July 2011 04: 39
    mitrich 1 July 2011 22:32
    “I ran into YUNGU at one time. Now I ask his forgiveness if he reads it, of course.”

    Yes, no problem, I treat the Internet like the Internet)))
  55. cabin boy
    0
    4 July 2011 04: 55
    Sergey M. Today, Today, 01:05
    "I'm also registered.
    And where can I see these ratings, who gives them and how?”

    Some time ago, comments could be rated by any site visitor, even those who were not registered, but then they changed it. You were told that this is an opinion about your comment, whether you agree with it or not. Why start shit out of the blue?

    By the way, I don’t register on the site mainly because of the moderators’ loyal attitude towards such squabbles.
  56. cabin boy
    0
    4 July 2011 05: 46
    “As a result, we see the general embitterment of the masses, all segments of the population. And on the opposite side they are still trying to continue this destructive course. If today we do not offer a strong-willed decision on power in Russia, we can get unrest, rebellion, civil war and everything that whatever."

    If Ivashov is such a great analyst, as some here say, why doesn’t he honestly say that civil war is the scenario that “our Western friends” are trying to implement, and not “the modern Russian government”?

    “We are moving in the opposite direction, but the current government cannot offer anything.”

    The current government is precisely working to stop the movement in the opposite direction, but what Ivashov proposes below this line, in my opinion, is blah blah blah.

    “...even any honest and educated village teacher will bring more benefit to Russia in this place than the current tandem. At least he won’t rob.”

    Robbery is a criminal offense, if you have the facts, present them to the public, if you don’t, it turns out you are spreading slander.

    “During his term, the governor may never meet or even talk on the phone with the president, because he has some other clientele among his subscribers. ... Have you ever seen him receive any governor and they together discussed the development program for this or that region?”

    It seems that Ivashov lives in a different reality and is trying to instill this reality in others. Or is he outright lying? I foolishly typed a question on the Internet, the first link is “Working meeting with the Governor of the Primorsky Territory Sergei Darkin” July 1, 2011 http://president.rf/news/11809

    “The core of the Council should be the best professionals in Russia... The Council of Wise Men should propose this or that decision to the President.”

    So he would have voiced at least one name, who is the sage in Ivashev’s opinion, especially since there is a pre-determined composition of the State Council, but for now it is almost like in Libya with their Transitional Council.

    “And most importantly, we just need to establish basic order in the country. Today, no matter what area you look at, there is crime and corruption everywhere, a complete mess.”

    In the end, it was just a joke, “everything is gone, boss, everything is gone!” and not one specific thought, just general phrases. Public administration is effective when it is dealt with constantly, systematically, consistently.
  57. Stavr
    Stavr
    +2
    4 July 2011 07: 18
    Just like “Zucchini 13 Chairs”. Did everyone quarrel among themselves as best they could and for what? Truth is born in argument, not in scolding. Most even moved away from the topic altogether.
    Regarding mitricha, I can say that this person does not just share his opinion, but tries to impose it, in a way, “shepherds the flock of this site.” Curious personality. I would like people to share their opinions in the comments, but intrusiveness is more often associated with those who specifically visit sites. Although Medvedev promised that the authorities would not control the Internet, the intelligence services have no idea: they receive other orders.
    But in principle, all comments are divided into two: for the government and against. Since Leonid Ivashov is clearly against it, various types of accusations are poured on his head from those who are for power, that is, for Putin. The latter know too little about him, and his official appearances on TV are only positive. Those who include an analytical mindset, the ability and ability not only to “read between lines”, but also to “obtain real information” have long been judging people by their deeds, and not by verbiage. And only then the positions “For” and “Against” become more objective. Read more, analyze and draw conclusions yourself; imposing it on others makes no sense, because... everyone should have their own head on their shoulders. The future of the country will depend on how many people correctly understood the information imposed from outside, and how many remained controlled cattle. A revolutionary situation is brewing, closer to the elections on this site, if the comments continue to be antagonistic, one will be cursed. However, the moderator is not asleep here.
  58. mitrich
    0
    4 July 2011 09: 34
    stavr,
    You embarrassed me so much that I even farted and blushed. Well, several users agreed with me, and you immediately called them my “flock.” You didn’t agree, SERGEY M. took a mouth full of drool and began to practice spitting at a distance.
    I’m on the site because I like the articles and the reviews on them. Medvedev didn’t call me about this, by the way, starting next Monday I’ll go on air much less often, to your delight.
  59. mitrich
    +1
    4 July 2011 09: 41
    Well, what can you do if I like Putin? Like a man, of course. Of course, immediately write them down as “enemies of the people” and hidden security officers.
  60. mitrich
    +1
    4 July 2011 10: 05
    And I apologized for Ivashov. I really went a little too far.

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