Israeli artillery shelled Lebanon

According to RIA "News" With reference to the press service of the Israeli army, IDF gunners opened fire on the Lebanese border area as a response to the missile fired.

“A rocket fired from Lebanon exploded in an open area near the (border town) of Metulla. In response, Israeli troops opened fire on the area where the launch was from, ”the military said.

The shelling of the north of Israel coincided with the military operation against the Gaza Strip, which is already the fourth day.

In recent years, the northern regions of Israel were repeatedly shelled from Lebanon. Responsibility for rocket attacks was usually assumed by small Palestinian groups. One of the most powerful enemies of the Jewish state - the Hezbollah movement of Lebanese Shiites - generally adheres to the ceasefire declared in 2006 year.

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[roman72-452]

Unfortunately, they will never end, constant mutual provocations and shelling, no one wants to give in, and does not want to negotiate. The Israelis consider the Arabs to be complete scumbags with whom it’s not worth talking, the Arabs also do not consider the Israelis to be people.

[Giant thought]

That would be our answer to the Ukrainian shelling of our territory. But apparently, the gut is thin.

[Pimply]

Quote: Thought Giant

That would be our answer to the Ukrainian shelling of our territory. But apparently, the gut is thin.

Ukraine and Russia do not have a state of war, for starters. Israel and Lebanon have one. A deliberate blow to someone else’s territory is different from random.

[bmv04636]

once, well, two, well, a maximum of three may be an accident, but when this happens periodically and at the same time we offer dill that they may be present at our checkpoints, and they refuse. Well, I don’t know what it's all called, but obviously oh, I accidentally shot and hit.

[Pimply]

Quote: bmv04636

once, well, two, well, a maximum of three may be an accident, but when this happens periodically and at the same time we offer dill that they may be present at our checkpoints, and they refuse. Well, I don’t know what it's all called, but obviously oh, I accidentally shot and hit.

When there are battles at the border, this happens on a regular basis.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: bmv04636

once, well, two, well, a maximum of three may be an accident, but when this happens periodically and at the same time we offer dill that they may be present at our checkpoints, and they refuse. Well, I don’t know what it's all called, but obviously oh, I accidentally shot and hit.

Perhaps you are right. Here, the Lebanese immediately ran in and the incident was exhausted.

Lebanese official media report that security forces have arrested a suspect in Israel’s rocket attacks in the south of the country. Traces of blood were found in his car that probably belonged to the man who was injured when he launched the rocket.

[mirag2]

The United States threw Israel, not supporting its policy of building new settlements
Plans for the construction of new Jewish settlements were condemned by both the Palestinians and the European Union. The Israeli Ministry of the Interior approved on Monday the construction of 890 new apartments in Gilo, a settlement considered to be the Jerusalem area located south of the city. A day earlier, the Minister of Construction and Housing Policy of the Jewish state, Uri Ariel, authorized the construction of 394 housing units in Jewish settlements on the West Bank and 793 apartments in East Jerusalem, including 400 in the same Gilo.
“If Israel does not act in order to implement the concept of two states for two peoples, then it can become an apartheid state,” Kerry said
The United States insisted on negotiations between Israel and Palestine to agree to conditions that were inappropriate for Israel.
The kidnapping of Jewish teenagers could have been arranged by Israel in general in order to aggravate relations with Palestine, such as: "What kind of negotiations can there be with Palestinian terrorists?"
All-Israel will no longer comply with Kerry's conditions, referring to the "objective situation" -the attack by Hamas ....
This is the hidden cause of the exacerbation between Israel and Palestine.
http://news.mail.ru/politics/14317055/
http://vz.ru/news/2014/4/28/684261.html

[volot-voin]

And we even can’t shoot the dill formations firing on the territory of the Russian Federation. The firing points would be lowered, and then they apologized, they say, by chance, the exercises were carried out ...

[Per se.]

Quote: volot-voin

The firing points would be lowered, and then they apologized, they say, by chance, the exercises were carried out ...

Why apologize and somehow make excuses - they would not apologize, but would have warned that God forbid once again! ... These would be the words and actions of a great country, and not an offended sufferer.

[rjcekz]

if the world community does not condemn the actions of Israel, then we can respond to the shelling ourselves in the same way

[volot-voin]

Quote: rjcekz

the international community will not condemn the actions of Israel,

The world community will never condemn the actions of Israel, it will always be supported by another Jewish state overseas. Therefore, Israel can bomb Lebanon and Palestine, but we are not allowed.

[Pimply]

Quote: volot-voin

Therefore, Israel can bomb Lebanon and Palestine, but we are not allowed.

Not allowed to bomb Lebanon and Palestine? 8) Oh

[atalef]

Quote: volot-voin

The world community will never condemn the actions of Israel,

Actually, we are condemned both constantly and by UN resolutions - then for a long, long time there is no one, and then some Somalia.
In general, what do you think, if we are condemned (once again by the UN), then we will lie down, spread our legs and let us calmly fire at us - sending protest notes to Palestine?
Sorry - horseradish. I don’t give a damn - no one but us will protect us, and condemnations - condemn - the notes of protest have not protected anyone yet, this is much better for SPGs and Tanks.

[Knizhnik]

"protest notes have not yet protected anyone" Hmm ... there is nothing to object

[Pimply]

Quote: rjcekz

if the world community does not condemn the actions of Israel, then we can respond to the shelling ourselves in the same way

Condemns on a regular basis.

[NATANYCH67RUS]

It’s just that in Israel, the government protects its people and land, and our currents are chewing snot, and they are selling gas and oil!

[STALGRAD76]

Israel, whatever it does, has tremendous support from the "progressive" West, and we are always enemies .............

[Pimply]

Quote: volot-voin

And we even can’t shoot the dill formations firing on the territory of the Russian Federation. The firing points would be lowered, and then they apologized, they say, by chance, the exercises were carried out ...

And I repeat. Ukraine and Russia do not have a state of war, for starters. Israel and Lebanon have one. A deliberate blow to someone else’s territory is different from accidental hit as a result of a battle in a neighboring territory.

[g1v2]

Damn, Israel already does not have enough gas, it is necessary to bomb here. It seems that they decided to dispose of the old ammunition in such a way, that’s scorching in all directions. Syria was bombed, gas was bombed, now Lebanon was bombarded - the mandatory program was implemented.

[Krogan_Urdnot]

"Dear", read again 4 lines of this news, a rocket was fired at Israel from Lebanon and in reply He opened fire, is your IQ really enough to digest it? What claims are there to Israel? Or, according to some of your incomprehensible logic, is it painstaking that it was shot at and should look at it silently?

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Krogan_Urdnot

, a rocket was launched from Israel in Lebanon and in response he opened fire, is your IQ really enough to digest it? What are the claims to Israel?

There are no claims to Israel, but Russia does. Now something will fly to us again, half of the customs will be smashed, and our HERAKS on the Ukrainian junta with a note of protest

[sds555]

Alexander Romanov

Already arrived, but what about yesterday’s last Chinese warning from the Foreign Ministry?

As a result of shelling from Ukraine, the building of the bus station at the Russian checkpoint Gukovo was damaged

The building of the bus station at the Russian checkpoint "Gukovo" is damaged by Ukrainian ammunition, which exploded a few meters from the entrance to the checkpoint, RIA Novosti reported.
11 July 2014, 11: 47


Original article: http://russian.rt.com/article/40289#ixzz37962f6KY

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: sds555

Already arrived, but what about yesterday’s last Chinese warning from the Foreign Ministry?

Well, now they are gouging in a gulp from the notes of protest on Ukrainian positions. Banderlogs are hiding so that they would not fall asleep with paper.

[g1v2]

Alexander, I'll try to answer you. All these answers from Israel, of course, look brutal, but they are useless in the case - they were fired at a year ago, fired at 2 years ago, now they are firing at and will be fired for another 100 years. What's the use of these retaliatory attacks? Tough guy image? They do not solve the problem in any way - the Israelis die every year under penny missiles and will continue to die. The Arabs are full of beggar cannon fodder, who has no hope in life and who is absolutely not afraid to die. The organizers of these attacks calmly drink coffee in the capitals of the Arabian monarchies. You can hate Hamas, consider it a terrorist organization, yes it is true, but only Hamas now controls gaza and can speak and make decisions on behalf of the Palestinians. Intimidate him with what? All these operations and shelling of Israel are like a police raid in a slum - someone was killed or imprisoned, but nothing changes, and new authorities are taking over. Israel's most successful act is friendship with Mubarak, which has made the border with Egypt much safer. If the Israelis came to an agreement with the new Egyptian government and Assad, even trivially bribing with material aid, it would be more beneficial than retaliatory shelling in 10 years. Even with Hezbollah it would be possible to come to an agreement, because they got involved in the war in Syria and now they have no time for Israel. We do not make useless and brutal steps, but simply wait for the moment when the enemy opens up and it will be possible to knock him out. It will be necessary to tolerate the shelling and other minor provocations, which are absolutely precisely carried out to elicit a response from our side. By the way, the Palestinians used to take advantage of Israel's predictability - for example, they struck a blow from a school and, knowing that the Jews would soon respond, urged journalists who were filming the "atrocities of the Israeli military" that bombed a peaceful object. And then photos and articles about "Israeli soldiers are destroying civilians" flew around the world.

[atalef]

Quote: g1v2

All of these Israeli answers certainly look brutal, but in the case they are useless - they were shelled a year ago, they were shelled 2 years ago, now they are shelled and they will shell for another 100 years

Do not explain even because you don’t understand anything. The shelling will be - this is understandable, but an alternative? There is no alternative, or rather it is, but no one will allow us to do this.

Quote: g1v2

. Sense from these retaliatory attacks? Tough guy image? They don’t solve problems at all - Israelis die every year under cheap rockets and will continue to die

They die and will die - until once we give a damn about all this opinion and send them to ....

Quote: g1v2

The Arabs are full of impoverished cannon fodder, which in life has no hope and is absolutely not afraid to die.

Let them not be afraid to die, for that we want to live and we will protect this life

Quote: g1v2

You can hate Hamas, consider it a terrorist organization, that's right, but only Hamas now controls gas and can speak and make decisions on behalf of the Palestinians

Yes, great, and here we are. Hamas makes decisions for them - let them not cry that they get hucksters with him.

Quote: g1v2

If the Israelis agreed with the new government of Egypt and Assad,

The new government of Egypt has made for the security of Israel - 100 times more than Mubarak. First of all, they declared Hamas a ter.organization and blocked all the tunnels from Gaza.
There is no point in negotiating with Assad. he does not bother us. especially now

Quote: g1v2

Even with hezbollah one could agree, maybe they got involved in the war in Syria and now they are not up to Israel

Excuse me . but after these words, I can only say one thing - you do not understand anything in the realities of the BV. Hezbollah without confrontation with Israel is doomed to poverty and oblivion.
With which I take my leave. Further, your conclusions do not make sense, because of the lack of minimal knowledge on the problem.

[g1v2]

I beg your pardon, but when I write on this topic, I am doing this absolutely not for the guys with the Israeli flags, because I realized long ago that apart from hurray-patriotism and shouts "we will show these Arabs where the crayfish spend the winter" you will not get anything from you. You have a clear line of conduct and you are not able to retreat from it. I write comments in these topics for ours who admire your brutality and try to explain that this is an absolute dead end. By the way, an interesting phrase is that there is an alternative, but you will not be allowed to. Still, is there someone who allows you or does not? As for the BV, I may not know many details, but I represent the overall picture quite clearly. In addition to radical Islamists, there are others in the Arab world for whom power and wealth are much more important, and this already opens up the possibility of negotiations. The same Hussein, although he constantly showed fakies in your direction, really did not threaten Israel in any way, because he had something to lose. In general, I think it is absolutely pointless to argue with you, because you obviously will not reveal interesting facts to me, I cannot convince you either, and if so why pound water in a mortar? I wish you a pleasant day, on which I take my leave.

[atalef]

Quote: g1v2

By the way, an interesting phrase is that there is an alternative, but they will not allow it to you.

Of course, it does exist - we could level Gaza within 2-3 weeks, and let all the remaining residents flee to 18 Arab states in the district - but who will give it

Quote: g1v2

. Still, is there someone who allows or does not allow you?

UN Fakend + Europe

Quote: g1v2

In addition to radical Islamists, there are others in the Arab world for whom power and wealth are much more important, and this already opens up the possibility of negotiations.

This once again confirms that you are not aware of the nichrome in the situation on the BV. Israel is for all these monarchies and clans of the Arab states and is intended as a lightning rod for all their internal problems. Therefore, removing this lightning rod (through negotiations) they will automatically transfer all their internal problems to themselves and in the absence of the enemy (in the person of Israel) they will have to explain all this by ourselves --- well, what the hell is everything so bad when the money is sea, and with Israel everything is OK - they will never allow solving the problem of palaces

Quote: g1v2

The same Hussein, although he constantly showed fakis in your direction, really didn’t threaten Israel in any way, because he had something to lose

Well, except for the shellings of the Scuds in 1991.
Have you ever read anything on the topic?

Quote: g1v2

In general, to argue with you I think is absolutely pointless

It is mutually - useless to explain to a person who does not even have minimal knowledge about what is happening on BV

Quote: g1v2

I wish you a pleasant day, on which I take my leave.

And you, practice on Vatnik’s ears - with him you will quickly find a common language

[2224460]

IDF artillerymen opened fire on the border region of Lebanon in retaliation for a fired missile.

They do not need the bloated apparatus of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs (notes and statements), they have a strong army.

[dima67]

Here they are not shy, but we are all afraid of something. After all, there are troops for special operations. Put things in order at night.

[gandalf]

Typical behavior of a terrorist state. Why do I think so?
If in a normal state after the killing of people (in Israel - three teenagers) the investigation begins, the search for killers, the capture operation, the court and then the sentence on the basis of evidence collected by the investigation, evidence and other. That is, in the state of Israel, the perpetrators are not sought / caught / sued, but military operations are appointed and carried out to destroy airborne missiles.

And it doesn’t matter that more civilians die than terrorists.
It does not matter whether or not the murdered person is guilty of this murder or some other crime ... These are goyim. They can be.

This is the same if, in response to the murder, for example, by an Uzbek guest worker of Russian citizens, Russia would launch rocket-bombing attacks on the territory of Uzbekistan. Wildly? Wild ... But we are a civilized state.

PS Our snipers have won international competitions recently. The Israelis also participated ... did not win. Missiles, apparently more convenient.

[Krogan_Urdnot]

Do not teach us to live in our Middle East while drinking juice in our eastern Europe. The terrorists killed the guys, so they and those who sent them will pay the price.

[gandalf]

The Middle East is not yours, it is common.
If Eastern Europe is ours, then stick the restitution lawsuits deeper into your Middle East.
So only a terrorist can justify the killing of civilians. The terrorist does not kill the direct perpetrators of their troubles, but all ... they also selected / sent those who are guilty.

PS Take your citizens Kolomoisky, Valtsman, etc. otherwise they learn how to live Russian in Ukraine.

[Krogan_Urdnot]

When I say "in my country" it doesn’t mean that it is mine personally, does it? It means that I live in it. So you include the fool in the phrase "our middle east" ?? Civilians always suffer in military conflicts. If I now begin to justify the Chechens and spread rot on Russia for the death of civilians in Grozny, then what would you tell me?

[gandalf]

1. "in my country" in your country is equivalent to "in our Middle East"? Your country is your country. Inside yourself - even if you arrange a flood, I won't care.

2. You all have only one argument - Chechnya ... Everywhere it is. There are no other arguments. Although it has been said more than once about the difference in the scale of crimes, you probably have ear plugs in your ears. Moreover, Israeli citizens Berezovsky, Gusinsky played an important role in the first Chechen one ...

3. Because of the three dead, it is necessary to unleash a military conflict, knowing that civilians will suffer? T.O. state of Israel consciously commits military aggression in which the civilian population suffers. And this fits the definition of a "war crime".

[Krogan_Urdnot]

You can’t stand the chronology and distort the facts. The operation in Gaza is a response to rocket attacks on the Israeli territory, which in turn rained down after the army began to arrest members of the Hamas involved in the killing of three children on the West Bank. No need to turn on the fool again, thinking that the country was raising cars worth a hundred million dollars to bomb some sort of gas hut there, simultaneously killing as many children as possible up to 3 years old. Such inferences do not honor you, sorry.

[gandalf]

I did not complete the chronology, but I am in the know.

From the rockets, in my opinion, there were no victims - an element of provocation.

But in general, the killing of three teenagers is a planned provocation. By whom? Those who benefit from wars in the Middle East, who needed to disrupt negotiations.
Israel was led by a provocation, the same as with Corporal Shalit.
It began with that. And it started ... Excerpts were not enough.

Where will the relatives of killed / wounded civilians (there are more than terrorists)? As militants, the ranks of militants will grow and the fire of the conflict will receive new "firewood".

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: gandalf

3. Because of the three dead, a military conflict must be unleashed,

And you preferred not to notice rocket attacks? It may be enough to measure the respected one. You take the side of the terrorists and are defending them now. Are you not sick of it?
If I were you, I would puke, looking at how many people in Russia have died at the hands of terrorists. But to see hatred of Israel, your eyes are so cloudy that you are already standing on the side of the killers and not shy about it. Minus to you.

[gandalf]

I do not protect terrorists in any way. I condemn the methods used by the State of Israel. I have no hatred of Israel.

Missile attacks were. The damage was material, I didn’t hear about the victims, it seemed there wasn’t.
Terrorists fire with rackets - there are no victims.
Israel rockets - victims.

The methods are mirror. So the conflict cannot be put out, constantly warming it with new victims among civilians.

But in general, the killing of three teenagers is a planned provocation. By whom? Those who benefit from wars in the Middle East, who needed to disrupt negotiations.
Israel was led by a provocation, the same as with Corporal Shalit.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: gandalf

I condemn the methods used by the State of Israel.

Sorry, can in this case we slow down in the Caucasus and do as you suggest? Maybe you think that terrorists do not sit in Israeli prisons, then this is not so.

Quote: gandalf

Missile attacks were. The damage was material, I didn’t hear about the victims, it seemed there wasn’t.
Terrorists fire with rackets - there are no victims.
Israel fires rockets - victims

Now our territory is bombarded by Bonderlogs and I don't give a damn if there are victims or not.

Quote: gandalf

But in general, the murder of three teenagers is a planned provocation. By whom?

Israel knows how to protect its citizens and everyone knows what they will get by the snot, how it is happening now and how it was with Shalit.

First I wrote you an answer, and then read your recent comments. You have repeatedly called on someone to hang them. Probably by law, yes

[gandalf]

In the Caucasus, missiles are not firing at villages now ... and rightly so.

The fight against terrorism will be effective with the maximum minimization of civilian casualties from the special services or the army. Otherwise, relatives, acquaintances, friends, etc. victims of the actions of the army or special services will replenish the army of terrorists. To give terrorists arguments for agitation - "look, they beat peaceful people."

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Israel knows how to protect its citizens and everyone knows what they will get by the snot, how it is happening now and how it was with Shalit.

Able ... They get ... but more civilians get and ... an army of terrorists is growing. And in the medium and long term, the war will go on. And peaceful on both sides will perish for many years to come. Defended now, so that the threat would come later and in another place.

Urki hail Slavyansk iron ... and the army of the Southeast is growing.
If, in response to the shelling of our territory, the Russian army begins rocket attacks on the villages in which the group of national guards is sitting, what will be the response of the relatives of the civilians who died from it? The question is rhetorical.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: gandalf

In the Caucasus, missiles are not firing at villages now ... and rightly so.

there is simply nothing for them to shoot.

Quote: gandalf

The fight against terrorism will be effective with maximum minimization of civilian casualties from special services or the army

Israel is perhaps the most effective in this regard.

Quote: gandalf

The question is rhetorical.

Sorry, but in this case you are a lycimer who has sided with terror!

[gandalf]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

First I wrote you an answer, and then read your recent comments. You have repeatedly called on someone to hang them. Probably by law, yes

Well, he called, but only the notorious villains ...

Yes ... and the court is mandatory if technically possible ...

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Now our territory is bombarded by Bonderlogs and I don't give a damn if there are victims or not.

No need to smack them in the villages in response. Then we will already become "Banderlog". Small special operations in populated areas, from helicopters - missiles can be in the fields.

Mirror action is not always good ...
Asymmetric response is sometimes very effective, GDP will not lie .

[Pimply]

Quote: gandalf

I do not protect terrorists in any way. I condemn the methods used by the State of Israel. I have no hatred of Israel.

Oh no. Suggest other methods? Interesting to listen - which ones?

Quote: gandalf

Missile attacks were. The damage was material, I didn’t hear about the victims, it seemed there wasn’t.
Terrorists fire with rackets - there are no victims.
Israel rockets - victims.

Have you ever wondered why? This is not because terrorists do not want victims. This is because Israel has built shelters and is effectively protecting its citizens, both with a missile defense system, and with civil defense systems and with the very same response. And Hamas, with a blue eye, requires the citizens of Gaza to climb the roofs of houses as they approach planes and conduct combat operations near civilian infrastructure.

For example, a rocket warehouse in a school warehouse.

[gandalf]

Quote: Pimply

For example, a rocket warehouse in a school warehouse.

I have already said here that the solution is to arrange for the Palestinians themselves to fight terrorists. This is a very long way. Patient.
Do not succumb to provocations, give work to the Palestinians, humanitarian programs ... There are many methods of influence, except for missiles.

Russia in Chechnya has changed the tactics of counteraction, instead of war - to negotiate, to support those with whom it is agreed, so that they fight those who do not want to negotiate ...

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: gandalf

I have already said here that the solution is to arrange for the Palestinians themselves to fight terrorists. This is a very long way. Patient.

I don’t know much about the work of the Israeli special services, but you don’t know ANYTHING at all.
You know why in Israel there are no explosions on the streets of cities, like ours. There, the terrorist does not have time to walk out of the house, they create his own.
And when rockets fly, it means that Gaza runs out of money. There is no point in negotiating with someone who is not going to do this. Do you doubt it? - Talk with Parashenko or with terrorists in the Caucasus, try it. I will put a monument at your own expense, if you can do it.

[atalef]

Quote: gandalf

in my country "is your country equivalent to" in our middle east "? Your country is your country

Yes ? You recently wrote that BV is common

Quote: gandalf

Inside yourself - even arrange a flood for yourself, I won’t do anything.

Thanks, that's why we don’t ask you

Quote: gandalf

You are in the ears of an ear plug, apparently. Moreover, Israeli citizens Berezovsky, Gusinsky played an important role in the first Chechen one ...

and poor Jew Rokhlin

Quote: gandalf

Because of the three dead, it is necessary to unleash a military conflict, knowing that civilians will suffer?

Yes, and we will tear for one
You can not understand.

Quote: gandalf

T.O. State of Israel deliberately commits military aggression in which civilians suffer

Call it what you like, on the drum, the IDF defended and will defend the country and if, in response to the death of one Israeli, on the other hand, 100 perishes - well, then it’s necessary, to snoop next time - again 100, I understand that so will be long, but if we defend ourselves only with notes of protest, this equation will reverse

Quote: gandalf

And this fits the definition of a "war crime".

Well, with syurisprudence and knowledge of international laws you have a complete zero, so it’s better to shut up - or prove

[yushch]

Why do you offer your opponent to be silent?
Gendolph has his own point of view; you understand that you will not convince each other.
The only thing I would advise everyone not to switch to insults.
Everyone has their own truth. But this does not mean at all that your truth is true.

[gandalf]

Maybe citizens from Israel thought that I was anti-Semite, so they attacked ...
I just pointed to Israel’s mirrored responses to terror, which doesn’t contribute to the establishment of peace, but rather incites war.

And if we look in the mirror, then we see ourselves, if you act like a terrorist, then what are you better (different)?

They don’t want to take criticism ...

[gandalf]

Quote: atalef

Yes ? You recently wrote that BV is common

I do not refuse these words.

Quote first.

Quote: Krogan_Urdnot

Do not teach us how to live in our Middle East ...

Quote two.

Quote: Krogan_Urdnot

When I say "in my country" ...

Hopefully it will become clear what I had in mind.

Quote: atalef

Yes, and we will tear for one
You can not understand.

Yes. You're right. I will never understand that in order to fill up a few scum, you need to kill some more women and children.

Quote: atalef

Call it what you like, on the drum, the IDF has defended and will defend the country and if, in response to the death of one Israeli, on the other hand, 100 dies - well, that’s what it should be, to snoop next time - again 100, I understand that so will be long...

So it will be forever ... And this is the problem.
Just as fire cannot be put out with kerosene, so war cannot be stopped by violence.
More peace victims - more anger - more terrorists ...

[atalef]

Quote: gandalf

I will never understand that in order to fill up a few scum, you still need to kill some women and children

Unfortunately, these scum hide behind the backs of normal people, if they are so normal that they can not put the same Hamas in a clean field for showdown - then sorry.
Generally strange. You are somehow absolutely not outraged that Hamas abducted three teenagers (note neither the soldiers nor the police - what else could somehow be explained by the struggle against the * occupation), and he killed the teenagers.

Quote: gandalf

So it will be forever ... And this is the problem.

In general, nothing ever lasts. You are neither eternal nor me. The Second World War was 70 years ago and no one thought that in the Russian Federation Natsik would run with swastikas, and in Germany gay marriage would be allowed. So . that we will live - we will see.
In Jewish history - 100 years - this is one instant.
We have been fighting for much more years and somehow survived.
We have a saying
- We survived the pharaoh - we will survive and ..... (insert necessary)

[bmv04636]

and the destiny of civilians always suffer, even if there is no war, who canceled natural and man-made disasters (floods, earthquakes, etc.) can trite you with a robbery. The function of the state is to isolate as much as possible its citizens from suffering, if it did not work, then at least compensate you or your relatives and try to do everything to reduce the suffering of your population.

[atalef]

Quote: bmv04636

. The function of the state is to isolate as much as possible its citizens from suffering, if it did not work, then at least compensate you or your relatives and try to do everything to reduce the suffering of your population.

I absolutely agree with you on this, so our army does not hide behind the backs of its citizens.

[Deer Balak]

Quote: gandalf

The Middle East is not yours, it is common.

You first persuade the Arabs that it is common and that conflicts must be resolved peacefully. They consider BV to be part of their caliphate. You, apparently, are also a supporter of the caliphate.

Quote: gandalf

If Eastern Europe is ours, then stick the restitution lawsuits deeper into your Middle East.

Transform your stream of consciousness into a more understandable form.

Quote: gandalf

So only a terrorist can justify the killing of civilians. The terrorist does not kill the direct perpetrators of their troubles, but all ... they also selected / sent those who are guilty.

A terrorist starts wars and uses his civilians as a human shield. Why Hamas, if he is so noble does not go out to fight in open space and uses private homes as a shelter for rocket launchers?

Quote: gandalf

PS Take your citizens Kolomoisky, Valtsman, etc. otherwise they learn how to live Russian in Ukraine.

P.S. on the type "Jews go to your Israel"? You yourself are not a terrorist after such words?

[gandalf]

Strange coincidences, but for some reason exacerbation of the Arab-Israeli conflict occur after fairly successful peace negotiations. Answer yourself in Israel the question of who needs it and who is fomenting a war ... Who is in war in Syria, who is in Iraq ...

Israel carried on a provocation and raced.

About Kolomoisky and restitution - this is a response to the attack "do not teach Jews how to live" in the sense "let the Jews not teach others how to live."

[Pimply]

Quote: gandalf

Strange coincidences, but for some reason exacerbation of the Arab-Israeli conflict occur after fairly successful peace negotiations. Answer yourself in Israel the question of who needs it and who is fomenting a war ... Who is in war in Syria, who is in Iraq ...

For one simple reason. Palestinians have two main centers of influence - Hamas and Fatah. One side is not profitable for the second to win

[bmv04636]

need to be neutered

[atalef]

Quote: gandalf

Strange coincidences, but for some reason exacerbation of the Arab-Israeli conflict occur after fairly successful peace talks

Well, before all peace negotiations there have never been (successful). Now check out the connoisseur of history - the second intifada when it started and who unleashed it, and most importantly why.

Quote: gandalf

. Who in Syria is stirring up a war, who in Iraq ...

Who is not in Rwanda or Ukraine? and neither I - nor believe Israel - the rest is not important

Quote: gandalf

About Kolomoisky and restitution

But about this in more detail

[atalef]

Quote: gandalf

The Middle East is not yours, it is common.

And in the hostel, as always, a mess

Quote: gandalf

If Eastern Europe is ours, then stick the restitution lawsuits deeper into your Middle East.

???????????????

Quote: gandalf

So only a terrorist can justify the killing of civilians

That's right, they (palaces) - they are immediately declared shahids, we are talking about random victims.

Quote: gandalf

The terrorist does not kill the direct perpetrators of their troubles, but all ... they also selected / sent those who are guilty.

the impression is that you did not have the Chechen war and civilians did not die because the terrorists were hiding behind their backs.

Quote: gandalf

PS Take your citizens Kolomoisky, Valtsman, etc. otherwise they learn how to live Russian in Ukraine.

Is it possible to Wasserman, Mil, Alferov, Landau, Gurevich, etc.?

[gandalf]

Quote: atalef

the impression is that you did not have the Chechen war and civilians did not die because the terrorists were hiding behind their backs.

There was also this tragedy, the echoes of which are still heard throughout the Caucasus. But now they’re not fighting terror like that, and well.
They don’t give the terrorists any arguments (and they kill peaceful people), and no reason to write to the terrorists (they killed yours ...).

About Kolomoisky and restitution - this is a response to the attack "do not teach Jews how to live" in the sense "let the Jews not teach others how to live."

Wasserman does not tell me what language to speak and what monuments to put. I am not anti-Semite ...

[STALGRAD76]

Than you are better than any other nations, you can afford too much because "friends" are bothering for you, they tell you how it is done in civilized countries, initiation of a case-investigation-court, and you invented sophism about the non-people of the Palestinians and destroy them as you like it. Guess what it's called.

[Deer Balak]

Quote: STALGRAD76

Than you are better than any other nations, you can afford too much because "friends" are bothering for you, they tell you how it is done in civilized countries, initiation of a case-investigation-court, and you invented sophism about the non-people of the Palestinians and destroy them as you like it. Guess what it's called.

You have two errors here. Hamastan is not a civilized country. Sharia reigns in them. They did not want to give a damn about Israeli proceedings.

[atalef]

Quote: STALGRAD76

You are better than any other nations, you can afford too much for yourself because your friends are busy with you

But the Russian Federation also needs friends to answer for the shelling?

Quote: STALGRAD76

, they tell you how it is done in civilized countries

We know how this is done in Europe, you turn your backside, get up in a pose, take off your pants and some especially zealous philanthropists and smear with cream - please yourself --- we somehow - for something not civilized

Quote: STALGRAD76

and you came up with sophism about the villains of the Palestinians and destroy them as you please. Guess what it's called.

Guessed - do not go to me - you will rake

[volot-voin]

Quote: Krogan_Urdnot

The terrorists killed the guys, so they and those who sent them will pay the price.

In, in killed the terrorists, and as always will pay civilians on the other side of the border.

[atalef]

Quote: volot-voin

In, in killed the terrorists, and as always will pay civilians on the other side of the border.

And the terrorists seem to be there.
By the way. and why would you (such a peace lover) not turn to the same Strelkov and not say
Mr. Minister, do not you think that your presence in the city will lead to losses among civilians. It may be worth going out into the open field. the woods . fields --- to minimize civilian casualties (rather than installing machine gun nests on the roofs of high-rise buildings) - knowing full well. that civilians will perish.
Tell me . what armed groups do. fighters (so to speak) in cities? And then they cry - do civilians die, are you protecting him? Or are you hiding for him?

[STALGRAD76]

What can I say, everything is so, having settled the Jews in 50x on the territory of the Arabs, they were doomed to constant war.

[Deer Balak]

Quote: STALGRAD76

What can I say, everything is so, having settled the Jews in 50x on the territory of the Arabs, they were doomed to constant war.

Since when is Judea and Samaria the territory of the Arabs?
Arabs must live in Arabia.
Arabs, incidentally, in the 50s drove the Jews out of their countries. For 800 thousand Arab refugees, there are 900 thousand Jewish refugees from Arab countries.

[Stypor23]

Quote: Deer Balak

Arabs must live in Arabia.

Arabs to Arabia, Jews to Israel, Caucasians to the Caucasus, Ukrainians to Ukraine, Russians to Russia

[Deer Balak]

Quote: Stypor23

Quote: Deer Balak

Arabs must live in Arabia.

Arabs to Arabia, Jews to Israel, Caucasians to the Caucasus, Ukrainians to Ukraine, Russians to Russia

Let’s at least not say that it’s their territory. With the same success, it can be argued that the territories of Ukraine and Belarus within the Pale of Settlement belong to the Jews.

[Stypor23]

Quote: Deer Balak

Let's at least not argue

I don’t claim that they are their lands. Your land disputes are on my drum. I’m sitting right now watching a movie as two Semitic people share a piece of land, but they can’t share it.

[Deer Balak]

Quote: Stypor23

Your land disputes over my drum.

Most people in Russia have some kind of grater for distant lands on the drum, your sympathy for the Palestinians is caused not by love for them, but by dislike for Jews. If Martians attack Israel tomorrow, you will sympathize with the Martians, not the Israelis.

[Stypor23]

Quote: Deer Balak

your sympathy for the Palestinians is not caused by love for them, but dislike of the Jews.

You have beguiled me with some other forum participants. on the contrary, I am going to visit your country, absolutely for peaceful excursion and medical purposes.

[Deer Balak]

Quote: Stypor23

Quote: Deer Balak

your sympathy for the Palestinians is not caused by love for them, but dislike of the Jews.

You have beguiled me with some other forum participants. on the contrary, I am going to visit your country, absolutely for peaceful excursion and medical purposes.

Welcome. If you need advice on treatment, I’ll inform the necessary people.

[Stypor23]

Quote: Deer Balak

Welcome. If you need advice on treatment, I’ll inform the necessary people.

Thank you. Only Shin-bet do not need to connect

[Deer Balak]

Quote: Stypor23

Quote: Deer Balak

Welcome. If you need advice on treatment, I’ll inform the necessary people.

Thank you. Only Shin-bet do not need to connect

Well, while you are interested in Israel exclusively from a tourist point of view, you will not be interested in it. I just have a good friend who accompanies people from the CIS who come for treatment in Israel.

[Stypor23]

Quote: Deer Balak

I just have a good friend who accompanies people from the CIS who come for treatment in Israel.

I’ll write in PM if something suddenly interests me in the future.
Nonsense, if the Palestinians know that you easily intercept their fireworks, why launch them?

[Deer Balak]

Quote: Stypor23

Quote: Deer Balak

I just have a good friend who accompanies people from the CIS who come for treatment in Israel.

I’ll write in PM if something suddenly interests me in the future.
Nonsense, if the Palestinians know that you easily intercept their fireworks, why launch them?

Grandmas paid Hamas, they need to work out. As a result, there is war, oil prices are rising, Qatar will pay back the invested money in Hamas in several. time. That’s all the simple arithmetic of war.

[Deer Balak]

By the way, in pursuit. Where did the Arabs come from in Palestine? Here's a family story told by the Arabs themselves on the Internet, or rather their Russian-speaking wives:

[Stypor23]

Entertaining reading.
A question of a different nature. In Izril, only Arabs sit on social benefits, or are Christians too?

[Rumata]

Quote: Stypor23

Entertaining reading.
A question of a different nature. In Izril, only Arabs sit on social benefits, or are Christians too?

Among Christians, a very high percentage of people with higher education, many doctors, lawyers. Their mentality is more western, so to speak. In general, comparing Arabs of Muslims and Christians is a very interesting thing. For example, Muslim Arabs are at the top of the list, in percentage terms, people who are not careful driving led to human victims, the culture of driving below the baseboard. There is no such problem among Christians. In terms of social. Benefits situation is similar. And the mentality is completely different, for some the main goal is to build a house and buy a good car, for others to get a higher education. Of course, I generalize a little, but in general the trend is this ... Unless, of course, by Arabs and Christians you mean Arabs of Muslims and Arabs of Christians.

[Deer Balak]

Quote: Rumata

Quote: Stypor23

Entertaining reading.
A question of a different nature. In Izril, only Arabs sit on social benefits, or are Christians too?

Among Christians, a very high percentage of people with higher education, many doctors, lawyers. Their mentality is more western, so to speak. In general, comparing Arabs of Muslims and Christians is a very interesting thing. For example, Muslim Arabs are at the top of the list, in percentage terms, people who are not careful driving led to human victims, the culture of driving below the baseboard. There is no such problem among Christians. In terms of social. Benefits situation is similar. And the mentality is completely different, for some the main goal is to build a house and buy a good car, for others to get a higher education. Of course, I generalize a little, but in general, the trend is ...

In fact, the difference between them is so striking that it is undoubtedly two different nations. I honestly suppose that Christian Arabs are the distant descendants of the Greek population who lived here before the Islamic conquest, who underwent a serious Arab blood infusion.

[Rumata]

Quote: Deer Balak

In fact, the difference between them is so striking that it is undoubtedly two different nations. I honestly suppose that Christian Arabs are the distant descendants of the Greek population who lived here before the Islamic conquest, who underwent a serious Arab blood infusion.

That's why I think this topic is interesting, the difference is huge. I doubt that the matter is in genetics, roots, ancestors. All these differences come from upbringing within the family and the fact that the child / teenager absorbs from the environment, school, mosque / church.

[Stypor23]

Quote: Rumata

Unless, of course, by Arabs and Christians you mean Arabs of Muslims and Arabs of Christians.

Honestly, for me, all Arabs are Muslims. People when they came from Egypt or other Arab countries, except the UAE, told me that they (Arabs) were kind of wild and intrusive, as if they had come from the desert yesterday.

[atalef]

Quote: Stypor23

Quote: Rumata

Unless, of course, by Arabs and Christians you mean Arabs of Muslims and Arabs of Christians.

Honestly, for me, all Arabs are Muslims. People when they came from Egypt or other Arab countries, except the UAE, told me that they (Arabs) were kind of wild and intrusive, as if they had come from the desert yesterday.

Well, in Israel, Christians are, of course, Arabs (mostly), a certain number of immigrants from the USSR (who came as part of mixed families) and Armenians.
Of course, the Arabs in us (Muslims) are more civilized than in Egypt or Tunisia - they will not pester on the street.
Arabs -Christians do not even mention maybe their upbringing and mentality is practically no different from the European

[atalef]

Quote: Stypor23

Quote: Deer Balak

Arabs must live in Arabia.

Arabs to Arabia, Jews to Israel, Caucasians to the Caucasus, Ukrainians to Ukraine, Russians to Russia

Penguins in Antarctica.

[djtyysq]

Quote: atalef

Quote: Stypor23

Quote: Deer Balak

Arabs must live in Arabia.

Arabs to Arabia, Jews to Israel, Caucasians to the Caucasus, Ukrainians to Ukraine, Russians to Russia

Penguins in Antarctica.

And Obama is in the jungle!

[atalef]

Quote: djtyysq

And Obama is in the jungle!

I agree.

[atalef]

Quote: STALGRAD76

What can I say, everything is so, having settled the Jews in 50x on the territory of the Arabs, they were doomed to constant war.

Indeed, after Jesus ascended to heaven from this earth, and the apostles scattered throughout the cities and towns, do you think there are no Jews left on this earth?

[igor.oldtiger]

here they only win at competitions! Whose rifles did they have?

[Deer Balak]

Quote: gandalf

Typical behavior of a terrorist state. Why do I think so?
If in a normal state after the killing of people (in Israel - three teenagers) the investigation begins, the search for killers, the capture operation, the court and then the sentence on the basis of evidence collected by the investigation, evidence and other. That is, in the state of Israel, the perpetrators are not sought / caught / sued, but military operations are appointed and carried out to destroy airborne missiles.

Search for killers is underway and their names are known. the operation in Gaza was launched in response to the ongoing shelling.

Quote: gandalf

And it doesn’t matter that more civilians die than terrorists.
It does not matter whether or not the murdered person is guilty of this murder or some other crime ... These are goyim. They can be.

I am very sorry for the Arabs, I’m sitting in a bomb shelter, listening to the explosions of their missiles, and all my thoughts are like Arabs in Gaza, if something happened to them.

Quote: gandalf

This is the same if, in response to the murder, for example, by an Uzbek guest worker of Russian citizens, Russia would launch rocket-bombing attacks on the territory of Uzbekistan. Wildly? Wild ... But we are a civilized state.

In the early 90s, several hundred thousand Russians were expelled from Uzbekistan as a result of the pogroms, some of them being piggy. The fact that such a large and strong country like Russia did not stand up for its people is really wild.

Quote: gandalf

PS Our snipers have won international competitions recently. The Israelis also participated ... did not win. Missiles, apparently more convenient.

Is this a type of hidden threat? Like "here we will send our soldiers to help the Arabs, you will not seem a little"?

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: gandalf

If in a normal state after the killing of people (in Israel - three teenagers) the investigation begins, the search for killers, the capture operation, the court and then the sentence on the basis of evidence collected by the investigation, evidence and other. That is, in the state of Israel, the perpetrators are not sought / caught / sued, but military operations are appointed and carried out to destroy airborne missiles.

Excuse me, but didn’t you write randomly, dunk, bomb, rafigachit, etc., after the terrorist attack in Russia?

[Deer Balak]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Excuse me, but didn’t you write randomly, dunk, bomb, rafigachit, etc., after the terrorist attack in Russia?

I think because of that complacency with the bandits, you Russians suffer no less, remember the recent explosions in Volgograd. I think for these suicide bombers such as gender, I would find excuses.

[Balamyt]

..... opened fire on the border region of Lebanon in retaliation for a fired missile.

How would a worthy role model! we probably should take note!
In such cases, you must first respect your country!

[bmv04636]

Sergei Guzhegetovich is waiting for the patron to finally leave for South America. Then it will be possible to frolic a little with dill. Like Putin, what does he have to watch football in America, and the "slaves" were a little overzealous that the "slaves" to take and the master seems to be not to blame. You look at the "slave" then the second apostle Andrew the First-Called with swords will appear

[Dart_Veyder]

You can blame Israel for Nazism, for the murder of civilians, admire the actions of the fighters for `` freedom '' as much as you like, but it will not go further than journalistic slogans due to the lack of facts, but this does not stop anyone. Almost all major operations were curtailed under UN pressure - this is about public opinion. So while the pipes are flying to the `` Zionist formation '' and the freedom fighters are hiding behind peaceful people, public opinion will be on the side of the terrorists and the conflict will be eternal.

[Dart_Veyder]

Quote: gandalf

1. "in my country" in your country is equivalent to "in our Middle East"? Your country is your country. Inside yourself - even if you arrange a flood, I won't care.

2. You all have only one argument - Chechnya ... Everywhere it is. There are no other arguments. Although it has been said more than once about the difference in the scale of crimes, you probably have ear plugs in your ears. Moreover, Israeli citizens Berezovsky, Gusinsky played an important role in the first Chechen one ...

3. Because of the three dead, it is necessary to unleash a military conflict, knowing that civilians will suffer? T.O. state of Israel consciously commits military aggression in which the civilian population suffers. And this fits the definition of a "war crime".

1) Due to shelling.
2) Yes, deliberately. If they do not respond to the shelling, the bulette is perceived as weakness, and as a result of the increased shelling, terrorist attacks ... in general, besides the population, there are gases also for its citizens.
3) about Chechnya, does a log begin to be chopped in the eye?
4) And if you say in your home country: `` I want peace on Earth, '' will you also accuse me of taking over the world?

[pomegranate]

Quote: volot-voin

Quote: rjcekz

the international community will not condemn the actions of Israel,

The world community will never condemn the actions of Israel, it will always be supported by another Jewish state overseas. Therefore, Israel can bomb Lebanon and Palestine, but we are not allowed.

Our situation is completely different. The USA is just waiting for whatever reason to start a war with us. Not only we but the whole world are not ready

[The Art of War]

Yes, I see Hamas rockets that fly 100-125 km! Judging by the Israeli Army, the Iron Dome does not justify its name from more than 550 missiles managed to intercept 120!

[Deer Balak]

Quote: The Art of War

Yes, I see Hamas rockets that fly 100-125 km! Judging by the Israeli Army, the Iron Dome does not justify its name from more than 550 missiles managed to intercept 120!

Many times have already been said. Only those missiles that fly into residential areas are intercepted. No one is going to intercept a rocket that flies into an open area. So far, out of the total number of intercepted missiles, there have been 2-3 failures. Fell in Beer Sheva and in Ashdod.

[The Art of War]

It turns out only cover the residential neighborhoods! And the roads are also open areas and there is no need to intercept them nude nude))

[Deer Balak]

Quote: The Art of War

It turns out only cover the residential neighborhoods! And the roads are also open areas and there is no need to intercept them nude nude))

The chance of a missile getting on the road is small, although it happens that missiles fall on or near roads.

[atalef]

Quote: The Art of War

Yes, I see Hamas rockets that fly 100-125 km! Judging by the Israeli Army, the Iron Dome does not justify its name from more than 550 missiles managed to intercept 120!

Learn the mathematical part

[DanG73]

Quote: The Art of War

Yes, I see Hamas rockets that fly 100-125 km! Judging by the Israeli Army, the Iron Dome does not justify its name from more than 550 missiles managed to intercept 120!

Stop talking nonsense - it has already been discussed 100 times - the dome shoots down only those missiles that really should fall into the populated area. To date, about 90% of missiles that were supposed to fall on cities have been intercepted.

[djtyysq]

[/ Quote]
Ukraine and Russia do not have a state of war, a deliberate blow to foreign territory is different from random. [/ Quote]


If shells fly in from the Ukrainian side "accidentally", why can't they "accidentally"?

[DanG73]

[quote = djtyysq] [/ quote]
Ukraine and Russia do not have a state of war, a deliberate blow to foreign territory is different from random. [/ Quote]


If shells fly in from the Ukrainian side "accidentally", why can't they "accidentally" from our side? [/ Quote]

Because normal countries prefer not "accidentally", but consciously and not hiding behind the backs of others to respond to shelling (unless of course there are eggs)

[stone]

What amazes me the most is how the Israelis first flogged a blank at the homes of Hamas commanders, and then when everyone flees, a combat flies. Or send SMS. Here is an intelligent high-precision war. And Ukrainians in the old fashioned way work on the squares in their own cities. It turns out that the Jews treat the Arabs better than the Ukrainians about their population.

[Deer Balak]

Quote: stone

What amazes me the most is how the Israelis first flogged a blank at the homes of Hamas commanders, and then when everyone flees, a combat flies. Or send SMS. Here is an intelligent high-precision war. And Ukrainians in the old fashioned way work on the squares in their own cities. It turns out that the Jews treat the Arabs better than the Ukrainians about their population.

We do not seek to destroy the Arabs. If this were the task, then a hundred combat bulldozers would roll Gaza into concrete dust without shots. We are trying to prove to them that armed conflict is a futile cause that Israel would eventually recognize and sit at the negotiating table.

[Stypor23]

Do not see the machine gun and guns. Merkava5

[atalef]

Quote: Stypor23

Do not see the machine gun and guns. Merkava5

D-9
You can’t even imagine what power it is. Already in unmanned performance /
second Lebanese - from the 2nd minute. D-9 pave the way for tanks.

[Stypor23]

Quote: atalef

You can’t even imagine what power it is.

Well nitsche so. Immediately a joke was remembered about an Israeli tank and an Arab running away from it. Terra at least one such meat harvester could destroy?