Dismantling continued in Donetsk following the results of Strelkov’s return to Donetsk.

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Dismantling continued in Donetsk following the results of Strelkov’s return to Donetsk.


In addition to Khodakovsky’s departure to Makeyevka, Kurginyan’s flight to Moscow, the start of active operations against the Donetsk airport and the junta’s retreat on 10 kilometers from Donetsk, they also touched on a backstage agreement behind the militia, which necessitated a separate press conference with Strelkov (military leader DNR) and Beard (the political leader of the DNR), in order to finally remove the political trash interfering to prepare Donetsk for defense.



If it's short.

About Kurginyan, Akhmetov and Kolomoisky

1. Kurginyan was completely merged and against the background of Ragozin, Rykov and Sharansky’s laughter over the old marazmatik, they denounced the junta’s accomplice, suggesting that they go in the direction of the banderlog positions. Strelkov intelligently complained that Kurginyan at first allowed himself "incorrect statements", and then was frightened to come to talk to Strelkov, fearing that they would make an attack there. According to Boroday, it was Strelkov who did not allow Kurginyan to be arrested, although Boroday had such a desire, because Kurginyan's behavior was in the nature of complicity with enemy propaganda.

Such sewage dissatisfaction on Kurginyan. screening behind-the-scenes contacts with representatives of Akhmetov and muddy history with contacts Kolomoisky. Being in touch with "our man in the Kremlin" http://actualcomment.ru/news/59052/ Boroday, started to relieve a scandalous situation, trying to make it so that what happened is Kurginyan's private attack, declaring that Kurginyan’s customers are not sitting The Kremlin, and to the west of the Kremlin, hinting either to Washington, or to Kiev from Dnepropetrovsk.

De facto, negotiations with Akhmetov’s people on the creation of a new Transnistria at some point assumed a dual character and got a mirror version associated with the delivery of Donetsk junta (hence numerous rumors from the start of the July 1 offensive, that the main phase of the operation will end no later than July 12 , and Strelkov himself said that no later than 12 in July, the NPT and the LC would be defeated http://joinfo.ua/politic/955502_Igor-Girkin-Strelkov-priznal-12-iyulya-armiya-DNR.html, against the background of information on the Bandera resources that Donetsk will take, and Lugansk is not) when people Ahm Tova started out feelers for the agreements with the junta. Since they began to directly discredit not only Surkov, but also the Kremlin, all the consequences of the scandal were leaked to Kurginyan, who is now portrayed as a complete and complete idiot who self-propelled his sect into the toilet and resolutely pressed the sink button. Such is the selyavi, they have broken and abandoned, but who will believe in the independence of Kurginyan's actions?

With whom exactly the defeatists communicated on the part of the junta, it is not known for certain, so far only the surname of Kolomoisky’s deputy Korban, whom Kurginyan’s representative met, has surfaced. Kurginyan actually and previously had connections with Kolomoisky, so that he could well be a link in the backroom negotiations between representatives of Akhmetov and Kolomoisky who were preparing the surrender of the city. Apparently, the mayor of Donetsk, Lukianchenko (who was confined to the Ukrainian authorities that remained in Donetsk - who, after Strelkov’s arrival in Slavyansk, began to be hard-cleaned), was involved in the conspiracy, who was tilting to Kiev for a “consultation” and who apparently would have to leave, though according to the wall, according to Beard, they are not going to bet.

Here it is worth clarifying that, in addition to panic in Donetsk after Strelkov’s return, strange processes started at the opposite side - resignations began in the leadership of the punitive operation, Poroshenko suddenly asked for a truce, the junta experts began to broadcast that they had released a victory near Slavyansk possible and at the same time began a massive attack on Kolomoisky, when in the style of NTV they started pouring shit on the junta's TV to the utter bewilderment of jumping on the Maidan.

In general, this scandal, in fact, put an end to attempts to surrender Donetsk to the junta and keep Akhmetov’s positions there, the war will continue and that means the Akhmetov’s empire is exactly the end. Well, by itself, the scandal has buried Kurginyan, who of course will still paw, trying to whitewash himself, but this will already be a political-political convulsions In my memory, this is one of the toughest political crossbows.

Moscow after the incident urgently strengthened its position in the leadership of the DPR, adding to Boroday the former minister of state security of Transnistria, Antyufeev, who as a Russian citizen with the rank of lieutenant general is called upon to help arrest the scandal removing shit for Surkov’s people, whether it is on the spot to figure out what It happened in Donetsk. Given the obvious connection of this man with the "bloody gebny" http://moldnews.md/rus/news/44264, the second option is more likely. Given the position of "first deputy prime minister for power affairs," he is likely, in addition to analyzing the incident, will obviously help to establish unity of command and restore order. In general, and this urgent appointment was also a direct consequence of the arrival of Strelkov in Donetsk.

About unity of command

2. The council of commanders will start acting soon. Commanders obey Strelkovu. Strelkov’s positions as commander-in-chief did not succeed; therefore, the early informational attack failed - as before, only Kurginyan and his sectarians galloped, while Bagirov and Fitzmorgen, who lit up in her, rapidly distanced themselves from the foul-smelling history that cast a shadow on the Kremlin. A single military headquarters for Novorussia for the DPR and LPR will be formed. Who will lead him is still unknown.

In general, the work goes in the right direction, after the 3-s months of actual sabotage, work began on the construction of a real DNR army. It is completely obvious that if Strelkov had not come to Donetsk, no one would have done it now. As it is easy to see, none of the significant field commanders supported Kurginyan and Co.’s hysteria on the topic of leaving Slavyansk. The overwhelming majority of military experts spoke in favor of Strelkov’s actions and the tactically literate nature of his actions during a breakthrough from the environment.

About the "East" and Khodakovsky

3. The Vostok battalion is currently part of the DPR State Security Forces and, as Strelkov stressed, is only under the operational control of the militia headquarters, that is, it does not directly obey it. It closes at the Ministry of Security of the DPR, which is headed by Khodakovsky himself, but since the Vostok battalion performs front duties according to Beard, then Khodakovsky will actually perform his tasks separately from the Vostok battalion, which is operatively subordinated to Strelkov. Thus, it can be concluded that it was agreed that Khodakovsky surrenders the leadership of “Vostok” to Strelkov, and his information will be hidden from the growing accusations of treason, hence the attempt to disavow Gubarev’s statements (Strelkov even had to defend Gubarev from Borodai’s rage) and Purgina, although in fact it was after the events of the last two days that Khodakovsky was actually removed from the command of Vostok. The reasons for the very likely agreement are quite understandable - there was a very high risk of violent confrontation in Donetsk between the Khodakovsky and Strelkov groups, apparently choosing the lesser evil, although it is obvious that the loop of accusations addressed to Khodakovsky is not going anywhere. In the meantime, all blamed on some "collisions" and "differences", which led to the operational reassignment of "Vostok" to Strelkov. From Strelkov's statements it follows that he has not yet found a common language with Khodakovsky, but he will quite possibly find it.

In general, Strelkov’s campaign in Donetsk led to a sharp breakdown of all the previous combinations and already led to qualitative changes in the DPR, as well as caused confusion in the leadership of the junta. Donetsk and the DNI will fight, at the head of the defense of the republic will be Strelkov, on which the course and outcome of this war will largely depend. I would like this mud, which came to light in Donetsk, to be rather finished and to start a more coherent struggle against the common enemy.
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  1. +22
    11 July 2014 06: 34
    But there is Odessa and Lugansk!
    Donetsk, Slavyansk and Nikolaev,
    There is our unbroken people!
    Let the US and Europe know
    The Fascist project will not work!
    Now we have other measures,
    Black - yellow banner in the blood.
    Our flag is Dignity and Faith!
    In the colors of Hope and Love!
    1. +19
      11 July 2014 07: 09
      Companions, this is what will happen anywhere, in any country, with any people if you abandon your present, and not your invented past, from the covenants of your ancestors, from the achievements of your ancestors.

      Everyone who tries to discredit Russia, the USSR, the Russian Empire, Russia is a guaranteed traitor, whether he realizes it or not. If we in Russia just as well give up our past, then we will face the same fate as Ukraine today.

      Well, a reference to the cool maydaunov caught in a delicate situation

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HwJDN0IZOw
      1. +5
        11 July 2014 08: 00
        A couple of days ago, the Schenevmerliki started talking that Strelkov had not appeared in public for a long time and sarcastically asked if he was still alive?
        Again do not wait.
        Have to jump on.
        1. +1
          11 July 2014 10: 24
          Quote: Angro Magno
          A couple of days ago, the Schenevmerliki started talking that Strelkov had not appeared in public for a long time and sarcastically asked if he was still alive?
          Again do not wait.
          Have to jump on.


          Jumping and crying, jumping and crying ... :)
      2. +4
        11 July 2014 08: 00
        A couple of days ago, the Schenevmerliki started talking that Strelkov had not appeared in public for a long time and sarcastically asked if he was still alive?
        Again do not wait.
        Have to jump on.
    2. malahit4444
      +10
      11 July 2014 07: 10
      It seems to me that this was the plan "B" Petka parasha traitors inside Donetsk, and then such a bummer !!!!!!!!!!
      1. Hajj
        +7
        11 July 2014 09: 21
        This, plus a few hundred freaks (Kirovograd Special Forces, a separate GUR officer detachment from Kiev, and other creatures in pairs) were sitting very quietly in the airport adjacent to Donetsk. Plus, all the riffraff before that was quietly sitting in the military unit on the territory of Donetsk. Plus some inconspicuous special forces of cops and the penitentiary system, also quite peacefully sitting in Donetsk and subordinate to the junta. Plus the SBU lists for all activists. In general, if it was not possible to merge Donetsk peacefully, they would carry out a simultaneous sweep as in Mariupol. Over the past two weeks, these stables have begun to be cleaned up. With the arrival (or arrival) of Strelkov, the airport remained, plus the "sleeping" Kiev agents of which General Antyufeev will be in charge.
      2. +3
        11 July 2014 12: 46
        Plan "B" is "Escape", and Parashenko has not yet switched to it.
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    4. +2
      11 July 2014 13: 07
      Here is another positive factor Strelkova exit from Slavyansk - restoring order in Donetsk.
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    6. DPZ
      0
      11 July 2014 16: 50
      at last! do not want to volunteer - mobilization! Hooray !!!
  2. 0
    11 July 2014 06: 41
    What is going on!

    You have to decide!
  3. +8
    11 July 2014 06: 43
    God forbid that these under carpet intrigues would soon end, so that no one else would put sticks in the wheels, that there would be unity in the fight against the junta.
    1. +28
      11 July 2014 06: 45
      Junta rejoices - “The terrorists are dead!”
      And the terrorists are grandparents.
      In tears buries the mother of the "separatist"
      "Separatist" is only 8 years old ...
    2. Sergei 57
      +4
      11 July 2014 07: 00
      Yes, under this carpet there is still fuss, but I hope Strelkov will vacuum it well.
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  4. +3
    11 July 2014 06: 45
    Who will answer me this question: what and what prevents the Russian Federation from recognizing the DPR and LPR ??
    1. +12
      11 July 2014 07: 06
      This will be the loss of the rest of Ukraine. The recognition of the republics will entail the introduction of a peacekeeping contingent and the arrangement of the state border with adjacent areas. That is, New Russia will forever remain within two areas. Any force expansion to the south of the north or west will be regarded as aggression against the sovereign independent state of Ukraine.
      1. +5
        11 July 2014 08: 36
        May we not get "the whole Ukraine"! Everything has gone too far there, and we must admit it. We simply will not pull the killed country and thousands of maydanut partisans on our territory. Why keep repeating the excuses of the Kremlin, which is thus trying to justify its doing nothing in Novorossiya? NOBODY WILL JOIN UKRAINE ANYWHERE. With the current pro-Western Moscow crowd in Russia, this piece is simply too tough. We should deal with the refugees from Donbass ...
        1. +3
          11 July 2014 08: 51
          Of course you're right. All Ukraine under the jurisdiction of the Russian Federation is utopia. But why not try to get at least some benefit. For example Kharkov. Closing the border of New Russia within the existing limits, we will lose it forever. At least for a long time.
      2. Hajj
        +2
        11 July 2014 09: 31
        Apparently the task is the minimum - a corridor to Crimea, and the maximum - to Transnistria. And Galicia as a "gift" to the Poles, let them have mutually hemorrhoids. Tens of thousands of pshek are awaiting restitution, so the Banderlog will attack their owners instead of the EU.
    2. Fox
      0
      11 July 2014 07: 13
      the question is, what determines the state? except for the flag and coat of arms ...
      1. +5
        11 July 2014 07: 45
        Fox, I understand what you mean. It is likely that the state of Ukraine as such does not exist. It doesn't exist for you and me. But even for our closest "allies" - the Belarusians, it exists. And for this, force pressure from the center of two unrecognized republics, but within one country, can be regarded as a liberation struggle. Independent and recognized republics can only start military intervention.
    3. +12
      11 July 2014 07: 14
      Quote: snifer
      what prevents the Russian Federation from recognizing the DPR and LPR ??

      The lack of state institutions and a clear foreign and domestic policy of these republics. The Strelkov alone will not build the state. Tsarev only leads with his hands and speaks with his mouth, makes international contacts. Too amorphous formation is Novorossia for now. Personally, it seems to me. Grandfather Lenin wrote:"Any revolution is worth something only if it knows how to defend itself." And grandfather Stalin said this: "Holding power on the next day of the revolution is no less important than taking power." ("Trotskyism or Leninism?", Collected Works, vol. 6, p. 331)
      So far, I see the political will of several people from 7 millions of local people, and half of these few strong-willed people are Russian citizens. The conclusion is quite obvious - the residents of Novorossia are still not ready to massively uphold those demands for which they themselves voted in a referendum.
      1. +1
        11 July 2014 09: 27
        Absolutely true! There is nothing to add! And THIS is the starting point for the Kremlin. I generally wonder how the inhabitants of Donbass took up arms. Too inert people! And that’s why Strelkov came to Donetsk, and a little more would have surrendered to the junta! And here is his TRANSITION, for me there is still a mystery, HOW ?!
    4. 0
      11 July 2014 10: 43
      Balshe loot
  5. 0
    11 July 2014 06: 47
    Act in concert for the benefit of the people, the people will value everyone according to their deserts ...
  6. +4
    11 July 2014 06: 52
    First: where does all this information come from? Second: if even not everything is true here, then all our comments are barking of a yard dog on passing cars. Something similar was in the first Chechen, and in Abkhazia in 93m. And Strelkova is even a pity, living heroes to the rulers are uncomfortable.
    1. +9
      11 July 2014 07: 29
      Have you doubted? The stump is clear - we don’t even know a damn thing. And if the ear of TV drives an outright lie, then ours speaks only part of the truth. That part that can be brought to a simple layman. There is also the Internet, where half of the videos are obvious fakes, and half of the remaining fakes are professional.
      About the print media, I generally silently - the most non-operational information.
      It is in this mess that we choose what to believe what is not. Hence, such a pluralism of opinions.
      1. nvv
        nvv
        +1
        11 July 2014 07: 44
        Quote: Hariva
        Have you doubted?

        Do you still watch TV? And I’ll tell you a secret about print publications. Toilet paper, softer.
        1. nvv
          nvv
          +2
          11 July 2014 07: 49
          News of the Slavs 57
        2. +3
          11 July 2014 07: 53
          By the word We, I do not mean You or ourselves, but the population of the country as a whole. And they assure you, the vast majority still uses television and the newspaper.
          1. nvv
            nvv
            0
            11 July 2014 08: 49
            Yes, I understood you. Your second sentence, I would add words. To regret.
  7. +3
    11 July 2014 06: 54
    I wish there were no enemies among the people living in Ukraine, but, unfortunately, we live in a World where there is a lot of cruelty and stupidity. Igor Ivanovich would be glad to be a true truce, but Poroshenko does this only in words.
    With the wishes of the successes of New Russia in the hard struggle for human dignity. Thanks to the author.
  8. +1
    11 July 2014 06: 58
    so they’ll decide. It seems to me that they’ve already begun not only to decide, but also to act
  9. +8
    11 July 2014 07: 04
    Quote: http://putnik1.livejournal.com/3253219.html

    And here is the latest info about personnel changes in the DPR.

    As an Odessa citizen, that is, a native of places located close to Pridnestrovie, and even taking into account the fact that my whole active real-political life was somehow connected with the PMR, I can state: Mr. Antyufeev is not only a professional highly qualified, but also (traditionally) very closely associated with those circles of the Moscow political community for whom the word "Russia" is not an empty phrase.

    Moreover, a message has just arrived from a person who is more than aware.

    As I expected, for rumors came through, Vladimir Yuryevich, already quite consciously bred his peacocks, could drop everything and take off on the longboat only if he personally asked for it (if not himself, then through proxies) the only person whom Lieutenant General Antyufeev cannot refuse. I know the name, but I won’t say it. Smiley.
    1. +2
      11 July 2014 08: 42
      Quote: gandalf
      I know the name, but I will not say.

      Well done! You are a real Malchish-Kibalchish!
      1. 0
        11 July 2014 17: 10
        Gee, yes, we know that name ... laughing
  10. +2
    11 July 2014 07: 05
    Whatever actions Igor Ivanovich takes, I think his actions are correct a priori ... everything else is from the evil one ... reminds me of my commander ... without any equivocations and interjections ... hell, I hate diplomacy ..
    1. 0
      11 July 2014 07: 54
      everywhere in all countries those in power try to fill their pockets with money, even on the blood of their peoples. Alas, it has always been so now :(
    2. 0
      11 July 2014 12: 55
      Forecast from Strelkova:
      "In the coming days, the main operation of the militia will be the destruction of the encircled units of punitive forces (two airports and the southern border). In total, there are from 3 to 4 thousand enemy soldiers in the cauldrons. We will try to destroy these groups (and the chances are now greater than ever) as soon as possible. In a week (after the completion of the regrouping of the punitive forces), the chances will be much less. Therefore, there is a certain “haste.” What is encouraging is that our artillery fist is present at every significant point. It is essentially the main “argument” in the unfolding battle. Accordingly, for the junta it is necessary If they do not succeed, then in addition to large human losses (comparable to losses for the entire period of the fighting), the junta's troops risk leaving large "trophies" of armored vehicles in the hands of the militia at any cost. make a difference on the fronts, which is what we hope. "
  11. +2
    11 July 2014 07: 12
    Quote: snifer
    Who will answer me this question: what and what prevents the Russian Federation from recognizing the DPR and LPR ??

    There is no one to recognize. So far, only a state army has been created. Other state authorities are not formed. There is no budget, no currency, taxes go to Kiev, pensions are paid from Kiev, there are no borders, etc., etc.
    1. +1
      11 July 2014 07: 36
      Quote: Mahmut
      taxes go to Kiev,

      LPR stopped sending taxes to Kiev. And all the "necessary documentation" is now being prepared. These are not Kiev deputies - to adopt the Constitution overnight. To do - to do so in good faith. The borders are still administrative, but if they hold out, then other regions (Odessa, Kharkov) will want to become part of Novorossiya by holding a referendum. Here is the catch - they would have recognized New Russia, maybe everyone else would have rushed to them.
  12. malahit4444
    0
    11 July 2014 07: 14
    Quote: A1L9E4K9S
    God forbid that these under carpet intrigues would soon end, so that no one else would put sticks in the wheels, that there would be unity in the fight against the junta.

    in my stick already inserted but not one and not in the wheel angry
  13. wk-083
    +2
    11 July 2014 07: 15
    What does the Kurghin have to do with New Russia ?! Send him to Pisyun for his stupidity and disrespect!
    1. Khokhol-MSC
      -2
      11 July 2014 08: 46
      He oversaw the supply of armored vehicles.
      The one with which the Vostok battalion is now fighting off the Donetsk airport under control Khodakovsky.

      For Strelkvets in the tank. Vostok battalion near Khodakovsky. That is why, Strelkov says that: ours attack the airport, but there was no command to capture it.

      Those. in case of victory, he is like a winner. And in case of failure, Khodakovsky killed people.

      Shooter - balabol and brehlo.
    2. Geo
      Geo
      0
      11 July 2014 08: 56
      I don't think this is his personal initiative. Just one person was made a "scapegoat". Another question. Who sent him there, and who is behind him?
      Apparently, everyone had already hidden, and Kurginyan was put on public display with the words "this is not us, this is himself."
      1. wk-083
        0
        11 July 2014 16: 12
        Who was pulling his tongue ?! If this is not his initiative, then you’re worthless to him!
  14. +10
    11 July 2014 07: 20
    Quote:

    "General conclusions. In the coming days, the main operations of the militia will be the destruction of encircled units of punishers (two airports and the southern border). In total, there are from 3 to 4 thousand enemy soldiers in the cauldrons. The destruction of these groups (and the chances are now greater than ever) must be carried out as soon as possible. In a week (after the completion of the regrouping of punitive forces) the chances will be much less. Therefore, there is some “haste." What is encouraging is that at every significant point there is an artillery fist of the militia. it is necessary at any cost to unblock their encircled detachments as soon as possible. If they do not succeed, then in addition to large human losses (comparable to losses for the entire period of the fighting), the junta's troops risk leaving large "trophies" of armored equipment in the hands of the militia. radically change the situation on the fronts. "

    My advice for competent people in the Rostov region: to prepare the border. In order not to work, as with that APC. Dill is likely to flee to Russia than surrender to militias. Prepare shade and people. When approaching dill, be aware that surrender is done on foot without weapons with arms raised high. In the prince, it is not even necessary to control the entire border line. Nodal points. But the main forces must move on the same level with the troops of the DPR, only on the Russian side. As soon as they cross over - arrest for violating the border or fire for defeat.

    Funny in what:

    1. Russia will receive 2-4 thousand punishers against whom it is immediately possible to start a trial according to the White Paper. If you let anyone go, then like Strelkov - from hand to hand to mothers or relatives at the sight of video cameras so that they do not return or are not returned to punitive battalions and, moreover, are not shot like traitors.

    2. Remember how much noise it turned out to raise from an armored personnel carrier. And then, it was rather a shame for Russia. An unrequited slap in the face. Now imagine 2-4 thousand caught offenders. Presented? Yes it will be a holiday!

    3. Remember when I said that dill were given up on foot? They have a lot of technology. I understand the trophies. But the DNR needs it more. And most importantly, no violation of laws and "international law". The technique remains in Dill. You don't need to return anything. She is at home. And the fact that she was "picked up" by not so-called. "legal authority" and "terrorists" are the problems of the Indians. Russia was asked by the whole world not to interfere in the internal affairs of Ukropistan, so she did not interfere.
    Everything is according to the law. Everybody is alive. Psaki chokes with saliva, inventing another nonsense.

    The advice may also be deliberate, but any ingenious move before incarnation was the same.

    I ask for a repost if the advice is sensible.
    1. +1
      11 July 2014 08: 20
      2-4 thousand Banderas are not needed on the territory of Russia. “I only followed the order, I didn’t want to kill anyone, they forced me, let me go to my mother” - you have already heard. This could have been allowed 2 months ago. Now they are all knee-deep in blood. Let the prisoners pass through Donetsk or ...
    2. 0
      11 July 2014 10: 17
      Quote: Iskander Khan
      My advice for competent people in the Rostov region: to prepare the border. In order not to work, as with that APC. Dill is likely to flee to Russia than surrender to militias. Prepare shade and people. When approaching dill, be aware that surrender is done on foot without weapons with arms raised high. In the prince, it is not even necessary to control the entire border line. Nodal points. But the main forces must move on the same level with the troops of the DPR, only on the Russian side. As soon as they cross over - arrest for violating the border or fire for defeat.

      Last night this news was held:
      The Russian Foreign Ministry expressed its protest to Ukraine in connection with the next shelling of the Russian border checkpoint, noting that in case of a repeat of the situation all responsibility will fall on the Kiev authorities. This was reported on Friday, 10 July, the press service of the Foreign Ministry.

      “The actions of the Ukrainian side are a gross violation of the fundamental principles of international law. The Russian side declares a strong protest to the Ukrainian side and demands an end to the shelling of Russian territory. In the event of further recurrence of such cases, all responsibility for their consequences will fall on the Kiev authorities ”, The statement said.
      http://lenta.ru/news/2014/07/10/protest/
  15. +3
    11 July 2014 07: 21
    Kurginyan completely leaked ...

    This rat floats to the surface at the most unexpected moments. But then, when it would be necessary to speak out, Kurginyan is neither heard nor visible.
    Political scientist Kurginyan was silent when neo-Nazis and bandits staged "Odessa Khatyn."
    We did not know the great wise opinion of the political scientist Kurginyan on the gas dispute, which turned into a real show, into a game of giveaways. You guys supposedly stock up on gas until the fall, and then we will "transfer you to prepayment."
    And when the residents of Donetsk and Lugansk regions spoke out for their independence, the political scientist Kurginyan was silent again.
    He did not utter a word when the self-proclaimed republics requested accession to Russia.
    We did not hear Kurginyanov’s indignation when the first and second time killed our journalists.
    And when the "unknown" thugs defeated our embassy in Kiev - and here we did not hear the protest of political scientist Kurginyan.
    And then he specially rushed to Donetsk and sent a scandal to the whole world. Publicly began to accuse the commander Strelkova "of surrendering Slavyansk." And he complained on the radio “Moscow Says” that he did not perceive and did not answer him — to some sort of important gentleman.
    Who is Strekov and who is Kurginyan? And whose will he pinned to PRESENT to Gubarev and Strelkov?
    Kurginyan is a loyal dog in the service of the "gray cardinal of the Kremlin" - Vladislav Yuryevich Surkov (half Jewish, half Chechen) - the generator of the ideas of militant liberalism under the Kremlin elite.
    I would like to complain to Putin with the words from the "Jewish play" - "WHO WAS TRUSTED TO CARRY TALMUD" ???
    1. Khokhol-MSC
      0
      11 July 2014 08: 51
      You respected are not at all up to date.

      Surkov is subject to the Shooters through the Beard.

      “I dare to assure that the Russian leadership absolutely correctly understands how the problems of the Donetsk People's Republic can be solved. And we are ready to contribute to this at a very high level. I have also known and respect the presidential aide Vladislav Surkov for a long time, who always provides the Donetsk People's Republic with serious support. exaggeration, Surkov is our man in the Kremlin, "Borodai said.

      Therefore, be silent already
    2. Geo
      Geo
      +1
      11 July 2014 09: 05
      We'll have to take on the role of "devil's advocate". I must say right away that I do not approve of his position and I am not a member of his political "sect". He was simply not shown on central TV channels, but he expressed his opinion throughout the conflict in the Outskirts. At first, his position coincided with the all-Russian position of the masses. But what I heard from the last one in Donetsk is a shock for me. It is still not clear what it was. I think we will find out over time and who was behind him, and what kind of plan they had. I do not think that he himself decides something in this situation, there are always customers.
  16. blackberry
    +3
    11 July 2014 07: 21
    What is all the same clever IS, so pull out the dirty game of the courtiers under the spotlights. Beautiful .... That’s all right, so that his reports on the camera are not a bluff. He said - help does not reach, but did not reach. He said - I only lead the Slavic - his Donetsk sessional sabotaged. He says - do not start a rebellion against the commander-in-chief - this should be done. They are cleaning up the ranks with the commander in chief. Listen to the bulletins.
    1. Khokhol-MSC
      0
      11 July 2014 08: 53
      Help came before. His subordinates asked him why he was responding a lie, to which Strelkov "only smiled mysteriously"

      Read more not only Strelkov’s self-PR and bespoke analytics, but also those who are nearby.
  17. +1
    11 July 2014 07: 25
    Now at least something has cleared up, although the purity of the "Augean stables" is still far away. Remnants of the khuntai will quietly foul.
  18. 0
    11 July 2014 07: 25
    That’s how it is ... They don’t have hands and graters. That is, in fact, part of the leadership of the DPR was against the entry of our troops. The flight of trash from the city is also very revealing. And in fact, now we will be able to observe Strelkov’s work in completely different conditions, when there are no enemies behind him.
  19. 0
    11 July 2014 07: 27
    Let the Shooters disperse this dog's wedding, otherwise, to the sound of a wave, they would have handed over the people to the fascists. Now the main thing is decisive actions to disperse the dishonesty hiding under the guise of "Renata's friends" and other shushary
  20. +2
    11 July 2014 07: 31
    Quote: Mahmut
    Quote: snifer
    Who will answer me this question: what and what prevents the Russian Federation from recognizing the DPR and LPR ??

    There is no one to recognize. So far, only a state army has been created. Other state authorities are not formed. There is no budget, no currency, taxes go to Kiev, pensions are paid from Kiev, there are no borders, etc., etc.

    Cannot be recognized within these boundaries. But what about Kherson, Zaporizhia, Kharkiv, Dnepropetrovsk, Odessa? What they throw? Here zapadentsy rejoice.!
    Now the pendulum has gone in the opposite direction. And Poroshenko grappled with Kolomoisky. Maidan is dispersed. Time works for Big New Russia.
    1. 0
      11 July 2014 07: 57
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Cannot be recognized within these boundaries. But what about Kherson region, Zaporozhye, Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk, Odessa?

      Yes, why, recognize individual republics as autonomies, but as part of the federation - who prevents them from joining New Russia later.
      Quote: Egoza
      LPR stopped sending taxes to Kiev. And all the "necessary documentation" is now being prepared. These are not Kiev deputies - to adopt the Constitution overnight. To do - to do so in good faith.

      ? what, just now ?! Where in good faith, what are they pulling, it's good that Kiev is ALSO a mess, otherwise, looking at the map in the same Komsomolskaya Pravda, Donetsk and Lugansk would have taken it long ago! "Conscientiousness" here borders on treason, in my opinion :(
      "Formula of love": we will make a carriage in a day ... - and in a week? - well, you need to think about it ...
    2. +1
      11 July 2014 08: 06
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Cannot be recognized within these boundaries. But what about Kherson, Zaporizhia, Kharkiv, Dnepropetrovsk, Odessa? What they throw? Here zapadentsy rejoice.!

      Lord! What are you "raving" about? Now the situation is "not up to fat, I would live!"
  21. +1
    11 July 2014 07: 49
    Showdowns in the leadership were never brought to good .. Example: In the 1970s, dictator Eric Geyry ruled in Grenada. In 1979, a bloodless revolution took place, as a result of which the people's revolutionary government came to power under the leadership of Maurice Bishop. In October 1983, the leadership of Grenada split, and then a coup, as a result of which Bishop was killed by factionalists. This was followed by an American invasion (Operation "Urgent Fury"). The island was occupied.
  22. +2
    11 July 2014 07: 54
    And the Motorola militia is going to marry the girl Elena from Semenovka. God grant that they live to a very old age and have time to rejoice at the great-grandchildren.
    1. Geo
      Geo
      +1
      11 July 2014 09: 08
      By the way, Motorola broke his arm. Here's the irony of fate - three months at the forefront, and fail due to household injuries in the city of Donetsk. For being alive, thank God.
  23. +1
    11 July 2014 07: 59
    Gentlemen, friends, comrades, and explain to me why you didn’t even try to play the card of Yanukovych? De jure is the legitimate president. Take this crook by the withers, at the turntable land on the square in Slavyansk. For a long time, before the loss of Slavyansk. And so that this lover of modest luxury in front of the people would ask for forgiveness for being a shitty figure, would agitate for a single Ukrin, would complain of nervous diseases, declare martial law, appoint Strelkov as Minister of Defense of Ukraine. I would appoint a re-election of the Rada. I would urge the Armed Forces of Ukraine to obey the law, which means that Strelkov would quietly dump him back to Rostov to his secret friend Chub .... And it seems to me if such a legitimate authority in all Ukraine would turn to Russia for help in restoring the unity of the whole country and getting rid of putschists, GDP would be easier to decide on military assistance ....
    1. +2
      11 July 2014 08: 50
      Quote: Homo sapiens
      Gentlemen, friends, comrades, but explain to me why you didn’t even try to play Yanukovich’s card? De jure is the legitimate president. Take this rogue by withers, land on a turntable on the square in Slavyansk. It is a long time ago

      What is it to write-would think a little! In Ukraine, presidential elections were held, recognized by the whole "world." P. Poroshenko-All-Peacefully Recognized President of Ukraine. He was recognized by Russia and Putin. Yanukovych is nothing now, "zero without a stick".
      1. 0
        11 July 2014 09: 25
        Do you even read the question before you answer it? I wrote, not now. And before. Until all elections and referenda. Thanks for the detailed answer and advises me to think, I will try from tomorrow ....
    2. Geo
      Geo
      0
      11 July 2014 09: 12
      Two reasons:
      Yanukovych ran out of "credit of trust" even in the South-East, and no one would follow him. And Svidomye would gladly go to "finish off" him. from the west of the country.
      and the second, this would lead to a direct military conflict between Russia and B. Ukraine.
  24. 0
    11 July 2014 08: 05
    Initially, the situation in the Donbass looked muddy. Jumping out like a devil from a snuffbox from the bowels of the former MMM, Pushilin and others like him did not look very convincing. Thank God, everything falls into place and true patriots begin to lead.
  25. +2
    11 July 2014 08: 06
    my opinion is .. those who want to negotiate with the junta behind those who are at war with those need to decide on the laws of the war .. some are fighting and others are ghouls who want to surrender the city to please the oligarchs .. just shoot ..
  26. +6
    11 July 2014 08: 13
    Slowly, the reasons for the non-recognition of Little Russia and the non-entry of Russian troops come up, and all this undercover fuss around the DPR and LPR
    1. Khokhol-MSC
      0
      11 July 2014 08: 57
      Respected. I don’t know what kind of military you are, but from politics they are as far as ant from Mars.

      Custom-made article, from another Strelkov PR.

      The reason for the non-recognition of New Russia is that there is no subject that can be recognized. Well, how can one recognize something if the DPR is still transferring taxes to Kiev, and the latter pays salary to state employees?

      And it turns out that in fact there is no DNR, but there is Donetsk region. Ukraine. And the introduction of troops into its territory is a declaration of war according to all the canons due to violation of state sovereignty.
  27. +2
    11 July 2014 08: 36
    Well, who argues? -The shooters are a hero; Shooters are great! But there are some questions for him: how did it happen that for a long time, being appointed Minister of Defense of the DPR, he served as a field commander? During the defense of Slavyansk, he did not perform the functions of a minister at all And that is why all this "crap" lasted 2 months in Donetsk: "muddy" showdowns; criminal inaction in matters of forming a regular army, strengthening statehood, reorganizing and strengthening the economic component; ideas about the surrender of Donetsk; senseless storage of weapons in Donetsk, the most important for the defense of Sloviansk and Kramatorsk. Precious time is lost. Now in Donetsk they are in a hurry to make up for lost time, but will they be in time? After all, much of what is being done now; it was necessary to do “yesterday.” Effectively fulfilling the functions of the Minister of Defense of the DPR could only be in Donetsk and from Donetsk, only from there it was possible to ensure the necessary control on (over) the territory of the Donetsk region. Really, none of Strelkov's assistants (from the calls of Strelkov himself, excellent commanders) could not replace him as commander of the defense of Slavyansk?
  28. +1
    11 July 2014 08: 40
    Yes-ah ... The junta broke off ... Shooters Real Leader !!! The people and the Army of New Russia will support him! It’s a pity that only people die ...
  29. +1
    11 July 2014 08: 49
    I would like this mud, which was opened in Donetsk, to be done away with rather and transgressed into a more coordinated struggle against the common enemy. I support. hi
  30. A40263S
    0
    11 July 2014 09: 11
    request who is Kurginyan at all, where did he come from ... before the event in Novorosia, I haven’t even heard ... what kind of Robin Hood that no one knows about and which no one needs anyone ??
    1. +1
      11 July 2014 09: 31
      Man, this fruit has been flickering on the TV for a long time. Very impressive and authoritatively carries any blizzard. And most importantly, confidently ... Stalin is a tyrant and despot? - prove with facts in hand! Not? Do not? Stalin, the great commander - the savior of the country? Now depict convincingly! Grandfather Lenin called such political prostitutes. And this is already old and moth-beaten ....
  31. +1
    11 July 2014 09: 15
    Quote: samuil60
    May we not get "the whole Ukraine"! Everything has gone too far there, and we must admit it. We simply will not pull the killed country and thousands of maydanut partisans on our territory. Why keep repeating the excuses of the Kremlin, which is thus trying to justify its doing nothing in Novorossiya? NOBODY WILL JOIN UKRAINE ANYWHERE. With the current pro-Western Moscow crowd in Russia, this piece is simply too tough. We should deal with the refugees from Donbass ...


    I’ll even say tougher - millions .... I am silent about Western, Eastern Ukraine hates everything Russian, I judge by my people living in Sumy and in Kharkov .... Attach? Are you sure that everyone is sure that those 7 millions still want to be in Russia or not be in Ukraine ???? If you would like to live in New Russia, you would have long ago stood in the ranks of the militia with weapons in their hands .... And so, the Ukrainian troops are happy about the arrival, making excuses - "That nicho, we'll get used to it, we'll have to, we'll learn Ukrainian, we'll change our surnames, we'll have to jump - but don't jump, anyhow vodka, bread and bacon, pennies, but they paid, and most importantly, there would be no war ... at once ... We poff ... And if the Russians come, we will knock out the invaders, they are to blame for everyone today. "

    Try to convince me - you have a TV and the Internet in front of your eyes, and I have a difficult communication with my brother, sisters and other relatives ... The husband of a cousin, with whom the lieutenant colonel of the reserve shared the water behind the river by the throats, went to the National Guard as a private as he said - "until the last k.atsa.p is thrown out to his Katsapstan - there is no place for me at the family hearth ..."
    I don’t think that he is still ordinary, he knew how to fight, we don’t communicate with his sister after her mats and attacks ...
    1. 0
      11 July 2014 09: 45
      This is the real trouble. I have, albeit softer, but the same. Relatives said that "we will put things in order here and we will come to free you from slavery, since you yourself do not want to, weakling" ... And this is not Lvov. This is Zaporozhye, this is Kharkov, this is Donetsk ... A classmate has a second husband from Makeevka. Citizen of Ukraine, Russian. When the first shots began, I called my eldest son to find out how he was, like his grandchildren .... He was worried .... And in response: "Don't be happy until yours killed us, I'm a Nazi muzzle, s ...." Another classmate worried about the refugees. I was collecting help ... Then I heard: "You are obliged to help us! After all, it was your Putin who arranged everything! All because of you, Russians ...."
  32. +1
    11 July 2014 11: 37
    Quote: Homo sapiens
    This is the real trouble. I have, albeit softer, but the same. Relatives said that "we will put things in order here and we will come to free you from slavery, since you yourself do not want to, weakling" ... And this is not Lvov. This is Zaporozhye, this is Kharkov, this is Donetsk ... A classmate has a second husband from Makeevka. Citizen of Ukraine, Russian. When the first shots began, I called my eldest son to find out how he was, like his grandchildren .... He was worried .... And in response: "Don't be happy until yours killed us, I'm a Nazi muzzle, s ...." Another classmate worried about the refugees. I was collecting help ... Then I heard: "You are obliged to help us! After all, it was your Putin who arranged everything! All because of you, Russians ...."


    And after that, still talk about the introduction of troops ??? Where ??? If they are complete stupid people, then let them remain in the position of residents of a 333-grade country, let them go to Europe and work on their backs. You wanted all the freedoms? All I mean, the former Soviet republics? You got it. The result? The result is simple, like two times two: everything that was created during the USSR was plundered and destroyed. The EU and the USA do not need new competitors, they need cheap labor and cheap prostitutes. I can show by the example of the city in which I was born during the Soviet Union-Klaipeda. Are those consumers traveling to take a walk to the Klaipeda Acropolis that once upon this the place was a house-building factory? A hosiery factory, a meat factory, concrete goods-2, two textile factories, two shipyards, a fishing fleet, a galvanic cell factory (where people received a salary that was fantastic at that time and went to the Gdeere Wartburgs specially bought for them) - where is it everything? In ruins. For none of the fascist authorities of the EU and the USA and their Russophobic chorus need it.
    And if dill snoops into the Crimea from a sore head, well, we ask you for favors. But only then do not eat, which hurts.
  33. 0
    11 July 2014 12: 39
    Our package is already in Donetsk. We will help more !!!
    Donbass militias received humanitarian assistance from the magazine "Military Review" and representatives of small businesses from the city of Voronezh.
    Now we need to wait for the second package from our volunteer Roman Skomorokhov (Banshee), maybe someone from Rostov and Voronezh "military observatories" will call and help the common cause.
    1. 0
      11 July 2014 17: 16
      Has already handed over to representatives of the battalion "8 company" from Donbass. From hand to hand, at the border.
  34. DMB-88
    -1
    11 July 2014 12: 46
    Quote: snifer
    Who will answer me this question: what and what prevents the Russian Federation from recognizing the DPR and LPR ??

    Close financial connection with the Russian and Ukrainian oligarchic structures hinders
  35. 0
    11 July 2014 12: 53
    11.07.2014/11/29 XNUMX:XNUMX (Moscow time) Synopsis from Strelkov Igor Ivanovich

    "Yesterday, the airport in Donetsk was attacked by two special forces assault groups, two Nonami, an AGS platoon, an armored group (BMP) and mortars. The enemy suffered heavy losses. The hotel building was burned with Bumblebees. The seriously injured soldiers were taken to the city 8 hospital. The group attempted the enemy to break through the sands is reflected with great losses for him. On our side, there are no losses near the airport.
    Unfortunately, there are losses in the battles at Karlovka (including today) - continuous art continues. shelling. This morning, one "Slavic" militia died there.
    At night (or rather, in the morning, in 4.00) they struck an artillery strike against the enemy in the area of ​​Marinovka (southeast of Snezhnoye). Ukrov tent camp was shelled. Losses of the opponent we specify.
    In the morning over Donetsk marked the activity of the enemy aircraft. "
  36. PWG
    -1
    11 July 2014 14: 30
    Quote: DMB-88
    Quote: snifer
    Who will answer me this question: what and what prevents the Russian Federation from recognizing the DPR and LPR ??

    Close financial connection with the Russian and Ukrainian oligarchic structures hinders

    The war in the Donbass was conceived by the Kremlin to distract from the Crimea. And then our rats began to bargain with the West: they say, we will merge the Donbass, and you forget about the Crimea. I think something like this is the case. But our people never thought of the people. Living in Russia is no better than in Ukraine. And so the original goals of the Maidan were truly revolutionary and correct. Another thing is that this was not necessary not only for the ruling Zhid-Khokhlyatsky elite, but also for the Kremlin strategists. And the genie of nationalism with all the consequences was released into the wild.
    And Strelkov and Bolotov - seem to me to be real, and not created by the purchased media, folk heroes like Pugachev or Razin. Such authorities always interfere and therefore are not needed. But the memory of them will remain for a long time! God grant them good luck !!!
  37. DMB-88
    -1
    11 July 2014 14: 35
    I propose to read this "Let the provincial marginals - intellectuals save Baikal"
  38. 0
    11 July 2014 16: 17
    11.07.2014/7/10 Losses of the junta for the period from July 2014 to July XNUMX, XNUMX

    For 10 July - (-) 120 (LC) + 4 (Muratovo) + 13 (PP Dolzhansky) + 13 (Chervona Zarya) + 32 (Slavyansk) = 182 banderlog (more: away from Kramatorsk airport - 3 BTX , 18 people killed, on the outskirts of Slavyansk - 2 tank T-XNUMx, 64 APU killed, 4 injured, Karlovka - chined 2 tank T-2; near the village of Chervona Zarya in the DPR exploded BTR-XNUMNXXX; near the village of Chervona Zarya in the DPR exploded BTR-XNUMNUMX, near the village of Chervona Zarya in the DPR exploded BTR-XNUMN MINN; BMP-64 - 80 APU died, 5 injured; Checkpoint Dolzhansky - 2 APU, 2 APU killed and 6 injured, shot down 7 BMU-5; 4 APU injured in the village of Stukalova Belya, n.Muratovo 1 2 also died Noi; LC - destroyed before 1 APU, ammunition, mortar 1, BMP, BTR 3 and staff car, a Karlovka - may 120 shot down the plane;. Village Red and Artiomovskiy - 1-3 APU killed and burned 1 APCs).

    For 9 July - (-) 135 (Gorlovka) + 57 (LNR) + 100 (Odessa) + 8 (DPR) = 300 banderlogov (more: LNR - neutralized the group of saboteurs consisting of 5 man and 2 gunners, destroyed 1 and BTR. truck, ukrov drug loss - about 3 APU; on the Black Sea coast near Odessa, "self-destructed" before 50 National Gad; 100 APU died and 3 injured in Donbass; Bezler - 4 Ps eliminated, about 35 injured).

    During 8 July - (-) 32 banderlogov (near the Metalworker - 2 APU, maneuver; 8 border guards injured; Kramatorsk airfield - 3 of the BTR was burned, 18 of the fascists was destroyed; Slavyansk (turn at the traffic police) - 2 of the T-XNNXX was destroyed;

    For 7 July - (-) 63 banderlog (captured by the LNR 1 zyg-rah-ra-25, TN-1 (or T-64) and the 72 X-ram rats), and the DPR in Donetsk and Anthracite seized by the 1-rats rat; and T-2-54; the Bezler group in Karlovka destroyed 34 units of armored vehicles - tank T-85, BTR, BRDM and BMP, destroyed around 4-Natsgadov.