On the evacuation of the population of Donetsk and the comments of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation on the possibility of conducting a peacekeeping operation in the Donbas

During the briefing, the Prime Minister of the Donetsk People's Republic, Alexander Boroday, announced that voluntary evacuation of the population had been announced in Donetsk. Evacuation will be carried out in connection with the statements of Kiev on taking measures aimed at taking the capital of Donbass in the ring. Alexandra Boroda quotes RIA News:

We have to do it. Russia needs to prepare for several hundred thousand refugees. Almost all of them want to go to the Russian Federation.

Boroday announced that voluntary evacuation of the population could begin as soon as possible.

Meanwhile, the Russian Foreign Ministry made a statement regarding the possible conduct of a peacekeeping operation with the participation of Russian troops in the Donbas. Answering a question from a Ukrainian journalist about plans to conduct such an operation with participation in an international contingent of Russian military personnel, Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman Alexander Lukashevich said:

You have been reading somewhere, probably in your sources about some kind of peacekeeping operation. Nothing like this. And in my opinion, at the highest levels, this version, which someone has launched, apparently deliberately provoking a Russian reaction to events in Ukraine, is wanted to get.

At the same time, Lukashevich noted that Russia will support OSCE events, which are (hereinafter referred to as quotation) important monitoring mechanism. How many more days (months, years) this “important monitoring of the OSCE” will continue, have not been specified in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation.

Comments

[Yellow white]

Everything is still nothing new.
we accept hundreds of thousands of refugees, thousands die, we complain to the OSCE and other mongrels ...

[Lord of the Sith]

Here is a video about the battles near Karlovka (20km from Donetsk)

[Stalker]

Here is a video about the battles near Karlovka (20km from Donetsk)

Well ... everything somehow ... In general .. a show !!! Believe me - pros ...

[Spnsr]

Quote: Stalker

Here is a video about the battles near Karlovka (20km from Donetsk)

Well ... everything somehow ... In general .. a show !!! Believe me - pros ...

I do not argue! but...
when tv removes some actions at the post, everything looks like a window dressing! firstly, because they fear for the life of the operator
2. due to the fact that it should be acting in such a situation, and in the third, and you can confidently say that it will not arrive at any moment !?

[Sandov]

Quote: Sith Lord

Here is a video about the battles near Karlovka (20km from Donetsk)

The army of New Russia successes in the fight against fascist plague.

[fyvaprold]

[quote = Sandov] Sandov [/ quote] I put you minus exclusively for "left" picture. Well tell me, right, what does the shooter have to do with Group Adepicted in the background? Maybe stop posting campaign leaflets? At least wait for the presidential election (I don’t know where the shooters are going to preside), and now the election campaign is a clear excess. With respect.

[Sandov]

Quote: fyvaprold

Maybe stop posting campaign leaflets?

Banderostan dorlzhen be destroyed. It is most important. The people themselves must choose their fate, and not under the pressure of punishers and crusaders.

[I am a Russian]

Quote: fyvaprold

Well, tell me, right, what does the shooter have to do with Group A

10 minutes trying to put you + ...alas, it didn’t work out.

+ I put other companies and no problems, but I can’t put you ... as if someone doesn’t want you to be put +.

[I am a Russian]

Quote: I am a Russian

As if someone doesn’t want you to be put on +.

yeah, and I slapped a minus ****** in the "shoulder straps" above the colonel

[fyvaprold]

Quote: I am a Russian

I tried to deliver you 10 minutes + ... alas, it did not work out.

Thank you, but you shouldn’t be worried, you can see karma i have a bad ... The minuses of my opinion do not change in any way, but the "hamsters" are pleased, it seems like << FOR GOD - Strelkov avenged >>Well, let it be, I do not mind. With respect.

[Zaslavsky-S]

This is photoshop, of course. BUT MEANING, NOT IN THIS !! The war is on !! Both on the battlefield and information! And you, all smart. E .... b BATTLE !!

[Baitly]

Minus put "fyvaprold".
You shoot yourself and then criticize

[Khokhol-MSC]

And what does Strelkov have to do with it?!?

The airport takes the Vostok Khodakovsky battalion.

Shooters sits in Donetsk and is actively promoting. And yes, he does it as usual. Therefore, STRELKOV HAS NO LOSS!

[Zaslavsky-S]

Are you at the forefront? Is it on a high chair with viscarik?

[Khokhol-MSC]

And you? The report says the battalion East. The shooter is just smeared. But yes, go and pray to him, for to see who is in charge of the East and how he shoots and as usual shooter Shooter is not familiar to you from his messages.

Girkin has no losses. For he is not at the airport. He did not set the task of capture. But, if it suddenly burns out, it is “our strength”

[Paradoxov]

Here's more:
Fighting continues in the area of ​​Donetsk airport. Currently, the militias are conducting a massive shelling of the positions of the Ukrainian troops. Used including MLRS "Grad"


Militiamen are ready to begin the elimination of punitive units
today • 01:49
In the coming days, the main operations of the militia will be the destruction of the surrounded punitive squads (two airports and the southern border). In total, from 3 to 4 thousand enemy soldiers are in the boilers. The destruction of these groups (and the chances are now greater than ever) we will try to carry out as quickly as possible.

In a week (after the completion of the regrouping of the punishers) the chances will be much less. Therefore, there is also some "haste". What is reassuring is that our artillery fist is present at every significant point. It is, in fact, the main "argument" in the unfolding battle. Accordingly, for the junta it is necessary at any cost to unblock its encircled detachments as soon as possible.

If they do not succeed, then in addition to large human losses (comparable to losses for the entire period of the fighting), the troops of the junta risk leaving large "trophies" of armored vehicles in the hands of the militia. which can radically change the situation on the fronts, which is what we hope for.

[Matroskin 18]

Planned evacuation ... They wouldn’t just have been doing it! This severely undermines an already weak economy. Here is the first hint of what is expected and where!

[Lord of the Sith]

10.06.14/16/34. XNUMX:XNUMX Message from the militia of Slavyansk

"The guerrilla war in Kramatorsk and Slavyansk continues. Our RD groups destroy the punitive tanks and armored personnel carriers. On the night of 10 July, reports on the clashes in these cities were sent to the Donbass militia headquarters. The militia left for sabotage activities inflict serious strikes on roadblocks and positions punitive in these cities. The actions are carried out mainly at night. As a result of the recent attacks, the militia managed to destroy 3 BTR, two t-64, as well as more 19 punitive. "

10.07.14/XNUMX/XNUMX Message from Valery Bolotov

"The battle at the Lugansk airport began with a mortar shelling of the Ukrainian positions, which turned out to be quite productive. The ammunition depot, checkpoint, 1 BMP, and the headquarters vehicle were destroyed. After this, the junta army units attempted to flee from the airport, but were met with crushing fire from the defenders of Novorossia. as a result of an unsuccessful attempt at a breakthrough, the losses of the fleeing fascists were: 1 BTR and about 20 personnel, the cumulative punitive losses in manpower for the entire battle amounted to 50 people. out of encirclement, the enemies requested help from the air. The X-NUMX of the Su-2 and 25 and the Su-1 aircraft came to the rescue. Attacking the MANPADS of the militia, the attack aircraft worked from a great height, so their attacks were not accurate. positions. "

10.07.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX Summary from places for the last hours

As a result of the morning shelling of the checkpoint ukrov at the border station Dolzhansky - at the punishers minus 1 BMP-2 and officially 5 "300".
Early in the morning, near Seversk, a punitive tank was shot down.
Received information that punitive took with. Trekhizbenka (west of the city of Happiness and north of Slavyanoserbsk) - created the threat of an attack on Slavyanoserbsk.
12: 55 (ISC) According to unspecified information, an aircraft shot down by the militia fell around the second mine.
15: 36 Fighting resumed in the area of ​​Karlovka (reinforcement of the DPR troops arrived there) and in the area of ​​the Donetsk airport.

[VengefulRat]

It seems that another storm of the airport in Donetsk is planned



And another movie

[Lord of the Sith]

10.07.2014/15/40 XNUMX:XNUMX LPR militia report

“10 July in Lugansk remained tense situation. The sabotage group of the Ukrainian army opened mortar fire on residential areas allegedly from the territory of the Lugansk Diesel-Locating Plant. One of the mines fell near a children's sanatorium, a resident of the Shevchenko quarter was killed by shrapnel.
The territory of the enterprise was cordoned off, the LC units tried to identify the enemy fighters, but so far without success.

In the 12: 00 area, information was received that the enemy first attacked the LC checkpoint at the airport with a mortar attack, and then hit the area of ​​the Regional Hospital, and the fire itself was fired from the Ostroi Grave area. In the afternoon, a car with enemy spotters was detained in the Yubileiny area.
In the area of ​​the airport there was an explosion of a gas pipeline damaged on the eve of the fighting, a column of white smoke was visible in the city.

Ukrainian Air Force aircraft violated the airspace over Lugansk several times, Su-27 and An-30 were seen near the airport, one of which, apparently, carried out reconnaissance, and the other threw off Ukrainian troops ammunition and supplies.

In the area of ​​15: 00 from mortars was shelled residential First district of Lugansk.

In the village of Lugansk in the morning 4 the enemy fired at the bridge over the Seversky Donets.

In Krasnodon and Izvarino were positional battles, the Armed Forces of Ukraine fired our positions from howitzer artillery, mortars, tanks, bombed from the air. In response, units of the LC Army fired point-to-point aggressor positions from howitzers. In Izvarino, several Ukrainian shells flew into Russia.

In 3: 30, the enemy subjected Sverdlovsk to massive artillery fire. Information on the victims is still being clarified, but already now with a great degree of obviousness it can be argued that they are. "

[Russ69]

Quote: VengefulRat

It seems that another storm of the airport in Donetsk is planned

Militias attacked the positions of security forces in the vicinity of Donetsk airport. This was stated by Minister of Defense of the Donetsk People’s Republic Igor Strelkov. “Today, our special forces attacked the enemy’s position in the area of ​​the Donetsk airport. We used artillery. The task of taking the airport was not set. There are no losses on our side, the enemy suffered serious losses, ”said Strelkov, quoted by RIA Novosti.

[Geo]

Why take the airport right off the bat when you can hit the enemy with multiple "raids" and leave without losing your people. Withdrawn, regrouped, hit, and again surveillance and reconnaissance.

[datur]

But what were you doing all this time, all this huyuyuya in DONETSK?

[Geo]

maybe engaged, but to no avail. and now it’s clear that they are engaged.

[aksakal]

Quote: datur

But what were you doing all this time, all this huyuyuya in DONETSK?

Quote: Geo

maybe engaged, but to no avail. and now it’s clear that they are engaged.

- I insulted General Shpak today, with resentment that no one is going to Strelkov as the chief of the Staff. And he thought hard why. It seems like some kind of mosaic has formed in my head, and a plausible explanation is obtained why experienced generals stay away from all this. In a nutshell I can’t, so be patient.
It seems that Surkov has just begun to negotiate with Akhmetov (the shadow master of Khodakovsky) about taking into account the interests of Russia, and Akhmetov, in turn, began to make his first successes in shadow negotiations with other oligarchs (let's face it - everything that is happening in Ukraine now - by and large, the division of Ukraine between all of these Kolomoisky, Poroshenko, firtash, Tymoshenko), and the Supreme Council of the Oligarchs of Ukraine (the supreme power in Ukraine, if anyone does not know) decided to meet one of its members, as one of Akhmetov’s tools, and it was Girkin, who suddenly realized that he was just an instrument, quietly used by Akhmetov with the help of his own, Girkin, his own romantic and ideological beliefs, and made a real attempt to stop being such. Thus, Girkin got out of control and became a headache like Surkov (who, through Kurginyan, tried to convey to Girkin the idea that Girkin’s share was to heroically die in Slavyansk and become a sacred victim, and now Girkin is a hindrance to the almost reached agreements between Surkov and Akhmetov) and so is Akhmetov, who, through his Khodakovsky, is trying to explain the same to Girkin. Poroshenko and Kolomoisky Girkin were told about this even earlier by Surkov and Akhmetov. But Girkin either had his own plans for his life, or just out of spite, or for whatever reason, but somehow he did not heed these explanations and began his game. A hindrance to Surkov, a stranger to Russian elites, already an unnecessary tool of Akhmetov and a fierce enemy of the West and the Ukrainian junta, what fate awaits him? To be continued, sit back. Pop Corn, Coke?

[aksakal]

Read more.
And now, more specifically, to the question:

Quote: datur

But what were you doing all this time, all this huyuyuya in DONETSK?

- What did the Donetsk people do? And here's what: Let me remind you - two ideological ones, namely Borodai and Girkin, came to Donetsk with the ideological goals of "helping Mother Russia." We agreed - one will focus on defense (as you understand, this is Girkin), the other, Borodai, will focus on creating the republic as such. That is, Boroday needed all the institutions of the state, everything, including the social security system, the fiscal system, the treasury, financial authorities, the education and health care system and all others, to squeeze out of Ukraine and force them to work autonomously, redirecting tax flows to the internal Donetsk treasury, which would essentially be a separation. This did not happen, but there was a stupid paralysis of the power and law enforcement system of the Donetsk region, thanks to which incomprehensible armed people began to walk with impunity throughout the Donetsk region, it is good, at least not to be bandits (individual incidents do not count, there is no systematicity), calling themselves the people's militia, but at the same time, all other state institutions and companies worked as usual, with subordination to Kiev, everything as usual. Stupidly, while Girkin heroically defended Slavyansk, Borodai did nothing, simply calling himself "the prime minister of the DPR", nothing at all. And it won't do it already. And Girkin, who, in addition to direct leadership of military affairs, also decided to resolve the issue with the real organization of the DPR, for which he escaped from the encirclement, will also do little in real life. Prior to that, Borodai had threatened to nationalize Akhmetov's assets. Things did not go further than declarations. Why? Because everyone else - Pushilin, Khodakovsky, and others - are Akhmetov's people! That's all! Two romantics will not do anything here, Duc and also begin to get tangled under the feet of the big uncles! And then Surkov persuaded Putin (most likely) to settle the issue on the quiet with those who have real influence in Donetsk and are at the same time weighty in Kiev. There is only one such person - Akhmetov. And Akhmetov is an oligarch, this is just a herd, sometimes Surkov is used to herding. And now negotiations are in full swing, there is trade, and then one of the romantics breaks out of the encirclement and begins his game: "We will never reconcile! Get the wax out of the DPR!" etc. In addition to these two romantics, no one is interested in an independent DPR - neither Kiev, nor Russia (it will be satisfied with the guarantees of Ukraine's non-aligned nature, and there are other details), nor the West, not even the population of Donetsk. Well, that means there will be no DNR either. And Luhansk is a separate topic. Akhmetov does not need Lugansk, Russia does not, either, but in Lugansk, unlike Donetsk, there was a real separation from Kiev, Bolotov was able to do this, and an almost full-fledged army appeared. Lugansk will be soaked seriously. With no interference from Russia. To be continued. Sit down comfortably. Popcorn, cola?
And before Shpak, I apologize. You should not climb into this moth, it is still unknown how Girkin and Borodai will be able to get out.

[g1v2]

Well, you expressed your version, I'll try and express my own. The Russian Federation set itself the main goal - the federalization of Ukraine, since it solves many problems and removes the issue of joining the outskirts to NATO, etc. Akhmetov in this matter actively collaborated with us, and also introduced his people to the leadership of the DPR in order to secure his position and property in the Donbass. Federalization is extremely profitable for him, as in Kiev, his enemies have now dug in, who want to impersonate him. And the support of the militia came from him with the goal of preventing the Maidanut oligarchs from squeezing out his property. However, the amers and the junta federalized like a sickle in the balls and they decided to solve the problem by force. If you remember for a long time on our channels, militias were called supporters of the federation. And here from the Crimea Strelkov with volunteers came to Slavyansk, dreaming of helping to hold a referendum. Ukrainians immediately declared the fight against separatism, although then no one wanted to separate. Well, then it was May 2, after which the population of Donbass massively said - well, to hell with such a country. And she voted for the branch, which Akhmetka didn’t need for hell, the Russian Federation, in principle, is also not particularly. After that, graters of Akhmetov’s people with Ukrainians and Strelkov’s sink began. We basically armed the LPR and drove the armament to Donetsk, beyond which it did not go. Strelkova crumbs fell from Donetsk. Ours looked that the DPR was being merged and decided to push through the exchange - we do not stop Akhmetov’s people from surrendering Donetsk in exchange for the federalization of Ukraine. At the same time, negotiations began directly with the piglet, through his old friend Zurabov and Medvedchuk. In principle, piglets need help from the Russian Federation, but federalization is a vigorous bomb under Ukraine and the bargaining was difficult. And here Uncle Igor mixed all the cards breaking out of the boiler and dramatically changed the layout on the table. The DNR began to prepare for war, the drain was unlikely, and the piglet was in the priest, as he simply did not have the strength to take the millionth city, and even more so to block. Our cards sharply increased in price and Novorossiya from a virtual project became quite real. In general, our goal, as before, is the federalization of Ukraine, but since there was a chance to break away 6 million people from it, then it’s a sin not to use it. Now a lot depends on Strelkova. Will be able to clean up and prevent the Ukrainians from strangling New Russia until November - then the Ukrainians do not shine anything further. Although the superiority of dill is considerable, but in fact they need 4 times more troops to win. 25 thousand soldiers, most of which do not have either motivation or skill, against 12 thousand militias are tears. Aviation was more frightening than real power in a metropolis. The artillery was not able to destroy the militia in Slavyansk in 3 months of shelling, and even more so in the city of Donetsk. Armored vehicles are the main striking force of dill, since they have it to the navel, but without the support of infantry in the city of Strelkov it will burn it. Now, in theory, piglets will declare a new truce to increase the atomic group to at least a miserable 50 thousand soldiers, who are still few, and Strelkov will conduct a partial mobilization and increase the army of New Russia to 20 thousand soldiers.

[aksakal]

Quote: g1v2

Well, you expressed your version, I'll try and express my own.

- I like Only Kurginyan here with his oror and two machine gunners from Akhmetov does not fit here. Kurginyan’s actions also need to find an explanation. Whose is he? Before that, it seemed like he was an ultra-patrit. You have bypassed this moment here:

Quote: g1v2

directly with the piglet, through his old friend Zurabov and Medvedchuk. In principle, piglets need help from the Russian Federation, but federalization is a vigorous bomb under Ukraine and the bargaining was difficult. And here Uncle Igor mixed all the cards breaking out of the boiler and dramatically changed the layout on the table

. So why was Kurginyan yelling like hell?

[Khokhol-MSC]

Because Strelok is a traitor who will merge Donetsk now

[g1v2]

Well, no one expected changes in the alignment, and when some stocks go up, others go down. Judging by the fact that the kurginyan was guarded by the people of Khodakovsky - Akhmetov, the kurginyan came to negotiate with the ahmetka, and now bang, there’s nothing to talk about since the situation of the figures has changed. Well, now imagine, an uncle is sitting, who believes that he will now decide everything and will grow up after negotiations, is making ambitious plans, and here the bang and all his floodlights in the trash, as the situation and settings have changed dramatically. Here Napoleonchik and broke. Surkov, however, is hardly a player on his own; he has been given a task, will decide - he will be respected and rewarded, will not fulfill - tsarist disgrace and loss of weight and influence. In general, the more useful it is, the greater the bonus. There is no need to sabotage him, another thing is that he is realistic and if the choice between a crane in the sky and a tit in his hands - he will choose a tit.

[baltika-18]

Quote: aksakal

. Kurginyan’s actions also need to find an explanation.

Kurginyan is a Kremlin man, his task is to try to stop the Girkin performance, the Kremlin does not want war, he doesn’t need to hell. This is an attempt to seize the initiative. But the players who obey Girkin are set up only for war, and if in the coming months they won’t manage to promote everyone full-fledged military operations, they will curtail the performance.

[nycsson]

Quote: aksakal

And now negotiations are in full swing, there is trade, and then one of the romantics breaks out of the encirclement and begins his game: "We will never reconcile! Get the wax out of the DPR!" etc.

And rightly so! Though he has a conscience!

Quote: aksakal

In addition to these two romantics, no one is interested in an independent DPR - neither Kiev, nor Russia (it will suit the guarantees of Ukraine’s non-aligned nature, and even there for little things), nor the West,

But Russia, or rather its leadership, is not interested in anything at all, except for one ......

Quote: aksakal

And before Shpak, I apologize. You should not climb into this moth, it is still unknown how Girkin and Borodai will be able to get out.

Your analysis, dear, is not worth a penny! I'll look at you when all this shobla climbs to the Crimea! Then we’ll talk whether it would be worthwhile to climb there or not!

[g1v2]

By the way, there is infa that Strelkov and Boroday have appointed Antyunfeev, responsible for counterintelligence and law enforcement agencies. Who doesn’t know, he created the KGB of Transnistria and for a long time led it, in general, a seasoned pro.

[baltika-18]

Quote: aksakal

aksakal (

Almost everything is true, Aksakal. The main definition is clearly given.

Quote: aksakal

adder

The tops are much more serious there, the ukro-oligarchs there are no good at all, they are just guides of someone else’s will, just like ours. There is a play, the goal is a maximum war between Russia and Ukraine with the gradual pulling of more and more new players. Minimally undermine Russia economically, creating many problems. Girkin, Borodai, Berezin-henchmen, let's say, of extra-matrix structures. Speaking simply provocateurs. Kiev, Donetsk, Lugansk, all their actions are supervised from a single center. They are not ideological, the idea is just a cover. In Slavyansk it did not work, the scale is not the same. Donetsk with its environs is already a completely different scale. His statements are like ultimatums and all the time requests to send troops. And the statement of Beard is generally blackmail.

[nycsson]

Quote: baltika-18

Simply put, provocateurs.

Hi Nikolay! I fundamentally disagree with you ......

[baltika-18]

Quote: nycsson

Hi Nikolay! I fundamentally disagree with you ..

Alexey, time will tell ....... If I am wrong to take my words back with pleasure. But for now I will say the following: this performance will win the victory of New Russia, and indeed its existence is not provided for.

[Vasek]

Quote: baltika-18

They are not ideological, the idea is just a cover.

Alas, everything is according to Lenin:
"War is the continuation of politics by other" (namely: violent) "means", and "Politics is a concentrated expression of the economy."
So, nothing new. Noble ideas, high-profile slogans, people's fates and lives are just a tool for sharing / redistributing resources.
And this is very unfortunate ...

[Khokhol-MSC]

Dear, Donetsk airport heroically takes Khodakovsky. Huh? For those who are promoting Strelka. The shooter is in Donetsk.

Now you can continue to hang your noodles

[s1н7т]

Quote: Russ69

Today, our special forces attacked enemy positions

With the names, of course, they do not have this in the first place. But that’s okay, if only successful.

[meriem1]

In the course of 12.7, the Sniper eased the sniper.

[shasherin.pavel]

Quote: meriem1

In the course of 12.7

It looks like they pulled the bullet out of the cartridge and demonstrate: "found on the armor", since there are no traces of rifling in the barrel and no damage to the bullet on the armor. If such a ... hit a fighter, and having pierced him would fall on the armor, then there would be nothing to bury from the fighter. Even 9 * 39 from no noise "explodes" the head, like a watermelon. And here is a whole shell.

[SSeT]

Left bullet, fact. The fighter’s whole body, and these bullets are in the shell, and here it’s silvery in appearance. Could be a core from 12.7, but it does not lose the shell from getting into the carcass

[Fofan]

Quote: meriem1

In the course of 12.7, the Sniper eased the sniper.

after 12.7 there would be a pile of meat.

[Zaslavsky-S]

Not always. It’s just that they shoot a head.

[Vasek]

Quote: meriem1

The sniper eased the sniper

Yes, and the sniper camouflage was ...
Duel for sure. Therefore, it is not worth sobbing, both risked the same and both knew what they were doing.
Won the best.

[pensioner]

But it looks like a sniper was killed!

[VengefulRat]

Press Conference Strelkova and Beard
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/49860053

A new deputy prime minister for state security has been appointed to the DPR.
Vladimir Yurievich Antyufeev was appointed Vice Prime Minister of the Donetsk People's Republic for State Security. He was presented to journalists at a joint press conference in which Alexander Boroday and Igor Strelkov took part. 1992 to 2012 Antyufeev served as Minister of State Security of the Pridnestrovskaia Moldavskaia Respublika. In 2004, he received the title of professor at the Academy of Military Sciences of Russia. “In the government of the Donetsk People’s Republic, I will oversee issues of state security, the courts, justice and internal affairs,” said a new member of the Council of Ministers. ”

[Luzhichanin]

finally, at least one of those military science professionals whom Strelkov called for. Now there will be someone to organize at least part of the work on a number of areas

[VengefulRat]

Part of the press conference

[VengefulRat]

Well, add the positive here)

[Angro Magno]

Thank you for the positive.
However, judging by the video, the information about the wound turned out to be true.

[Angro Magno]

Thank you for the positive.
However, judging by the video, the information about the wound turned out to be true.

[VengefulRat]

And still dokin.

[Nevyatoy]

What can I answer ....?

[max73]

activation of traffic in the area of ​​both airports suggests .... about the words of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs ... but, in general, in Donetsk they should have been puzzled by this for a long time, only it seems that the people there were driving the muddy ... and ... yes! Thanks to the admins of the site for the revival of groups in social networks. much more convenient to read and, hopefully, will comment

[31231]

Alas, in Donetsk and the muddy population is almost half. Because of this, most local militias are from the province, not Donetsk.

[novobranets]

On the last video, the murdered Ukrainian is dressed in a goblin, probably a sniper. The bullet calmed him, looking 12-14 mm, most likely worked as an anti-sniper. Does anyone feel sorry for the deceased?

[Hajj]

Meat is meat ...

[Victor-M]

Quote: VengefulRat

It seems that another storm of the airport in Donetsk is planned
And another movie

Well done, on the third video the campaign of the sniper failed.

[shasherin.pavel]

All the same, the circuit fits under the 9 * 39 noiseless air force, and they snatched a sniper on the approach to the bench, and not from the 12 * 7 anti-sniper.

[SSeT]

The bullet is not the same. On the video, the core is from 12.7

[datur]

only 1 ukropovoin --- not enough !!! HUNDREDS HAVE TO HAVE, in the West, many hundreds of mothers, cried, as the SOUTH-EAST MOTHER are now crying !!! let these banderlogs pay their price !!!

[1Andrei]

12,7 exhaust

[gfhjkm]

And in the last video that dill sniper eliminated the army of New Russia fellows.

[Kolya]

in the last video the sniper was also.

[Penachet]

And what does the Koklyat language mean - "video of Mustafi Nayem"? Is this a Ukrainian name, or is it Mustafa's mercenary?

[VengefulRat]

This zhurnaliZd, actively supports the Maidan and all the rest. A rare shit in general.

[old man]

Sniper killed ukropovsky. Share it with him.

[Vanko]

Judging by the last video, the killed fighter himself in the sniper outfit ... Did a duel happen?

[mealnik2005]

And the armored car is then a video collector. Yes, and on the killed sniper camouflage like. No other Kolomoisky people.

[Sandov]

Quote: Sith Lord

"The partisan war in Kramatorsk and Slavyansk continues. Our RD groups are destroying the tanks and armored personnel carriers of the punitive.

The people of New Russia urgently need help with weapons, I hope at least Russia will help.

[I am a Russian]

we look we read

Yes

[Fast]

Sori, confused to whom I answer. We need Russian-speaking specialists from Ukraine, civilized people of the highest class, which we have few left in Russia, despite the fact that there are endless plans, who will raise all this? There is enough room for everyone. Do not drive the blizzard.

[Geo]

More precisely, "We need Russian-speaking specialists from Ukraine, civilized people of the upper class, which we have little left in Russia" but on the territory of B. Ukraine or together with the territory. Otherwise we lose it.

[lelikas]

Quote: Matroskin 18

Planned evacuation ... They wouldn’t just have been doing it! This severely undermines an already weak economy. Here is the first hint of what is expected and where!

For those who wanted to sit out - in Kramatoske, a topic has already been opened at the forum where you can knock on DPR supporters - and they are knocking.
http://www.ridus.ru/news/163461

[Geo]

Well yes. Everyone understood that they could serve out, but only in Russia, or take up arms. Only no one has yet figured out how long they will have to sit out and what will happen after a victory or a “win”.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Black and White

thousands die, complaining to the OSCE

Well, thanks for that, although it’s clear that Russia will not intervene.
Although there will be no disputes on the site, otherwise we are sitting here for Lukashevich and we’re breaking spears, we don’t understand why.

[222222]

Russian Foreign Ministry website, news feed .. since July 8, Lukashevich NO. He spoke on July 10, probably .have not yet managed to print .. We are waiting ..
http://www.mid.ru/bdomp/brp_4.nsf/newsline

[222222]

http://www.mid.ru/brp_4.nsf/newsline/B156CDC2494E188D44257D110049DD26
Briefing by Russian Foreign Ministry Spokesman A.K. Lukashevich, July 10, 2014

[Roshchin]

The Foreign Ministry continues to be "surprised" from what the shells are flying into our territory in swarms. Isn't there anything interesting ripening at our top? Not to believe, no matter what, that the Nazis will be allowed to the borders. Is it getting worse on the territory of the DPR and LPR, and then it will become worse on the territory of the Russian Federation?

[aksakal]

Quote: Grove

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs continues to "wonder" from what the shells fly into our territory in swarms

What are your shells? Catch the news. It will be more interesting than your half-shells: http://www.zakon.kz/4638188-ukraina-napravila-boevuju-tekhniku-k.html. Read, enjoy, look forward. We observe the events and remember what Lavrov said there yesterday? What about the Crimea? Did he make a stern face and say that? I wonder if he was bluffing or seriously warning? I really hope that seriously! In the meantime, sit down more conveniently. Popcorn? Coke? It will be interesting.

[portoc65]

One of the plans of the Kiev junta is to liberate Ukraine from the pro-Russian population and populate the liberated lands with ethnic Ukrainians. In the process, they do everything for this.

[Egoza]

Quote: portoc65

One of the plans of the Kiev junta is to liberate Ukraine from the pro-Russian population and populate the liberated lands with ethnic Ukrainians

Well, for starters, Yatsenyuk offers to return to refugees and help rebuild cities and towns. I ran away! How to destroy - and restore. But how to destroy - is full of willing, but how to work - Russian? A cookie to you!

[Spike]

Slogans are slogans. And if Russia accepts the pro-Russian population, there will be enough space. A visa regime with the so-called dill, let them work in Geyrop ... And the northern fluffy animal with blue fur will come very quickly ...

[shasherin.pavel]

Of course, after all, now it is necessary to return the property to the former owners who fled abroad from the revolution, and this is billions of compensation for demolition of estates or destruction, as well as giving empty lands to Poland, Hungary, Romania, maybe there will still be kickbacks to your own account and gutting my, sky.

[aksakal]

Quote: shasherin.pavel

Of course, because now we need to return the property to the former owners who fled the revolution abroad,

Restitution is referred to as a mandatory procedure when joining the EU. The key date is 1918, but I don't remember exactly who was the owner before this year, so the property or asset that was taken away is returned to him. By the way, it concerns not only individuals, legal entities and the state can also make claims. So, Crimea and Novorossia, upon entry of restitution, will definitely go to Kazakhstan, half of Lvov - after all the representatives of the Jewish dispute, the Carpathians - also to Kazakhstan. In general, if Europe "as an exception" does not give up the demand for Restitution, then Ukraine will go nuts - it simply will not exist. There will be Kazakhstan.

[fyvaprold]

Quote: aksakal

Restitution is referred to as a mandatory procedure when joining the EU. The key date is 1918, but I don't remember exactly who was the owner before this year, so the property or asset that was taken away is returned to him. By the way, it concerns not only individuals, legal entities and the state can also make claims. So, Crimea and Novorossia, upon entry of restitution, will definitely go to Kazakhstan, half of Lvov - after all the representatives of the Jewish dispute, the Carpathians - also to Kazakhstan. In general, if Europe "as an exception" does not give up the demand for Restitution, then Ukraine will go nuts - it simply will not exist. There will be Kazakhstan.

Sorry, could you explain? With respect.

[Giant thought]

In this case, it is thought that the policy of Russia in this particular case in Novorossia requires adjustment from expectantly poherastic to decisive and active.

[strelok93rus]

Now V.V. The "fifth column" will definitely bite.

[Normal]

Quote: strelok93rus

Now V.V. The "fifth column" will definitely bite.

Do not peck. How can you peck your leader and leader?

[Lord of the Sith]

Mine airstrike 71. Rovenky

[fyvaprold]

Quote: Black and White

Everything is still nothing new.

How nothing? The Prime Minister of the Donetsk People’s Republic Alexander Borodai received the right (apparently from Strelkov) to give orders to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the FMS of the Russian Federation ("Russia needs to prepare for several hundred thousand refugees" Borodai A.), I assure you, BEFORE THERE WASN’T. With respect.

[kowalski]

But Boroday is not ready to send the same proposal to Kiev ?! And then the guys can’t agree among themselves, and Russia get ready ?! Managers, shitty ...

[Wellych]

Boroday does not give instructions to the Foreign Ministry, he states the obvious consequences. Can't you suppose that Russia will not accept refugees? You also cannot assume that she accepts them out of pleasure. This is the meaning of the verb "have to". I think you shouldn't find fault with words.

[fyvaprold]

Quote: Wellych

I think you should not find fault with the words.

I did not think to find fault with the words, you did not understand my irony, I meant that in addition to Russia, refugees can flee to Ukraine, here I absolutely agree with:

Quote: kowalski

But Boroday is not ready to send the same proposal to Kiev ?!

With respect.

[Nick]

Quote: Black and White

Everything is still nothing new.
accept hundreds of thousands of refugees, thousands die, complain to the OSCE

And you, as I understand it, are against the reception of refugees, and the involvement of international bodies to suppress the genocide in New Russia.
You are a big minus from me personally.

[kowalski]

Sorry, I forgot! Always, "the involvement of international bodies for the suppression of genocide" had an effect ... had an effect ... had an effect ... well, now, again I forgot what ?!

[Predator]

I don’t want to comment on anything. It’s empty and sad at heart. Nazis can’t stop talking about words. Even in our news, phrases about separatism sometimes skip. We are waiting and waiting .... why only ?!

[Weniamin]

we accept hundreds of thousands of refugees, thousands die, we complain to the OSCE and other mongrels ...

And the European Parliament is laughing at eyewitnesses of the Odessa tragedy.

[mig31]

Forcing peace where !!! ???, the humanitarian catastrophe begins with a thousand, but here are millions, what are we waiting for!? ...

[portoc65]

We are waiting for the famous red line .. that's just where it is? No one knows

[1Andrei]

Quote: portoc65

We are waiting for the famous red line .. that's just where it is? No one knows

Nord Stream

[1Andrei]

South Stream

[ATATA]

Quote: 1Andrei

South Stream

Blood flow?

[vezunchik]

Information on Moscow’s preparations for a peacekeeping mission in Ukraine is untrue, said Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman Alexander Lukashevich.

“You probably read that in your sources, about some kind of peacekeeping operation. Nothing of the kind,” Lukashevich said at a briefing in Moscow, answering a question from journalists.

According to him, this version, "apparently, was specially launched to provoke a Russian reaction."

At the end of June, the "people's governor" of Donbass Pavel Gubarev asked to bring Russian peacekeeping forces into the territory of the self-proclaimed Donetsk and Lugansk "people's republics".
Lukashevich is a zapadentets ???

[VengefulRat]

"Everything is not so simple" (c)

Russia is ready for international monitoring on the Russian-Ukrainian border at the checkpoints "Gukovo" and "Donetsk", said on Thursday the official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry Alexander Lukashevich.

“At present, we are talking about establishing an OSCE monitoring mechanism along the border between Russia and Ukraine. We presume that at the checkpoints at which the militias are located, it is the militias that must accompany the observers. The Russian side is ready to carry out monitoring on the Russian-Ukrainian border, and is ready to receive Ukrainian border guards at the Russian checkpoints on the border of the two countries, Gukovo and Donetsk. But, of course, all this will be possible with the achievement of a stable ceasefire and ceasefire in the south-east of Ukraine, ”he said.

[Iline]

"People's Governor" of Donbass Pavel Gubarev.

Let's not dissemble, but dot the "i".
1. There were no elections of the governor in those places (there was only a referendum, and that was not about joining unequivocal to Russia).
2. Peacekeeping forces can be introduced under the auspices of the United Nations, which this organization, controlled by the United States, will never do.
3. Initially, such a turn of events was not planned by Russia and therefore for her it turned out to be a BIG surprise.
Do you want to have our country as an aggressor with all the ensuing consequences? Me not.

[Canep]

Quote: Iline

Me not.

I am also against the deployment of troops. It is impossible to substitute 140 million Russians for two regions of Ukraine with a population of 4 million. There is no unity in Donetsk, but they are for rapprochement with Russia but they don’t particularly want to fight, Strelkov himself says. Now, if Ukraine is recognized as a fascist state by at least two countries of Western Europe, namely Germany and France, this is not to be expected from the USA, then it will be possible to think, but wait for now. And waiting for your cons.

[Canep]

Look carefully at the number of +/- of my comment and the previous one and it will be clear that we do not have unity on the forum either. If you write America bad you will earn pluses and only pluses, if you also write about Putin or God forbid about Russia, you will earn some minuses, even a lot of minuses, but we don’t have a single opinion in this either in the Donbass. And if there is no single position and the prospects for this are not clear, then I think it's better to refrain from using force.

[shasherin.pavel]

Quote: Canep

and it will be clear

But it is not clear to me, since the estimates are being replaced! Okay, when "ka.ca.p" is replaced with "I am a Nazi muzzle", but I had a replacement when writing "folk" or "people" twice, while the "cancel" button does not work. So someone replaces our opinion with their own, as it happened in the famous game "What? Where? When?", For the sake of intrigue, and here we are thinking at each other. Maybe someone else will try to replace a minus with a plus and tell you what happened.

[shasherin.pavel]

Something is wrong in this kingdom: I put a plus, and the result is -2 instead of -4. Administration: I definitely pressed "+" and not minus. Minesweeper forgive me this did not happen by my will.

[kowalski]

I agree. There is no "censor.net" in the asset ?! Admins ...!

[net abortion]

If we don't stop this carnage on
the territory of Ukraine
no one can hold it.


Major General Kanchukov:
Mercenaries are clearing Slavyansk

Major General Sergey Kanchukov,
expert, ex-intelligence head of the Trans-Baikal Military District,
I am sure that Slavyansk left by the militias
clearing mercenaries from private military companies.
According to Kanchukov,
distinction between punitive regular
junta army and foreign
mercenaries are hard to miss.

“It is clearly seen that this is not the Ukrainian army.

If you look at the pictures,
Ukrainian army - without bulletproof vests
or with bulletproof vests of the last century,
without helmets.

They show people here
who went to the administration of Slavyansk,
they are fully equipped, "in the latest fashion",
not from Yudashkin, however, but from the Americans,
- Major General is sure. - They have unloading,
body armor,
helmets, tactical glasses - all that
that accompanies private military companies.
The cost of this equipment is at least $ 4 thousand.
unarmed
individually for each. "

Kanchukov is also sure
that if the confrontation in the Donbass does not stop,
it will go to the territory of Russia.
“You need to understand that this is the beginning of the collapse of Russia, -
said Kanchukov. -

- Next will be Belarus,

and after that Russia.

If we do not stop this massacre in Ukraine,
no one can hold it.

The collapse of Russia is inevitable in this scenario.

This is a task, a goal set by the Americans. ”

[Canep]

Quote: net abort

If we do not stop this massacre in Ukraine,
no one can hold it.

If we begin to stop the slaughter in Ukraine by force, this will be the beginning of the collapse of Russia. Without a UN resolution, one cannot meddle there.

[Wheel]

Quote: Canep

If we begin to stop the slaughter in Ukraine by force, this will be the beginning of the collapse of Russia.

If we begin to end the massacre in Ukraine, this will be the beginning of a real revival of Russia.
And poker all UN.

[Leshka]

if we cannot help by force, we will help at least people

[Canep]

Quote: Leshka

help at least people

This must be done, almost to the detriment of oneself.

[raccoon]

Lightning: Strelkov’s army has begun the elimination of punishers at Donetsk airport
URAAAA to expel fascist scum from Novorossia, urine of fascist non-humans !!!

[tomket]

for me, it’s still a mystery a) how can someone still sit at the airport in the rear? b) what are they hatching there ????

[donavi49]

In Donetsk, there are 2 bata of the airborne forces and several SPN / power steering companies under 900 people with mortars and BMD. Moreover, airplanes fly at night even now, but rarely. Mostly parachutes throw supplies. In addition to Aero, they control a piece of green stuff in case the escape route becomes very bad.

In Lugansk, there is a combined group of the Lvov airborne brigade (about 400 people) with mortars, gas stations and other LNG + SPN, army men, various reinforcements and whom they managed to throw before Ilyusha was shot down - it’s also 700-800 people there. The supply of parachutes.



At the same time, aero is actually a convenient bridgehead:
Donetsk is now breaking through the corridor to the aero - from here attempts to break through Karlovka-Neytalovo-Pervomaiskoe and immediately find themselves in the City.

Luhansk in the deep rear, draws back forces and, thanks to its location, allows for raids of special forces and DRGs in the rear, which was done several days, when the group ran into the bus depot - they shot the UAZ militia and the guard of the bus fleet (3 corpses), today when DRG has already been running around the city and has been bullied in fact in the center. From this point of view, the Luhansk air force is being held stubbornly, but Bolotov has no strength ... For it is necessary to send equipment and reinforcements to the front line so that 1 Guards. TB, Airborne Forces, Mechanized Brigade and all sorts of "Tolerant Baty" did not break into Lugansk.

On air defense at least gain - Arrows-10M appeared. But there are few of them.

[Geo]

And the technique looks fresh somehow.

[Egoza]

Quote: tomket

for me, it’s still a mystery a) how can someone still sit at the airport in the rear? b) what are they hatching there ????

I answer on points. They appeared there when the Ukrainians were still, took up defense, only now they were tightly blocked. The provision took place by air or by mail !!! And then Strelkov came. So they do not hatch, but simply can’t get out of there.

[UREC]

to work with mortars seriously the greenback and constantly hammer on the aero - they won’t last long.

[kowalski]

"or by mail" ???
That is, the uncle the postman comes, brings in a huge bag cartridges, food, fuel, money transfers and letters from relatives? Then an evil postal inspector Strelkov came and drove out the uncle-postman ... EGOZA, who are you for?

[shasherin.pavel]

Quote: tomket

still a mystery

And I wrote before: Learn from grandfather Lenin "Banks, train stations, post office. That is, money for the salaries of the security officials from you, the stations and the airport under control, the media under control. From the Donetsk airport, security officials arrived near Slavyansk. Madhouse.

[lukke]

Strelkov’s army began the elimination of punishers at the Donetsk airport

It is alarming that the Vostok battalion (count Akhmetov controlled by Khodakovsky) is blocking the greenback, and how the first attempt to storm the airport led by Khodakovsky ended is no longer a secret. Question: where is Khodakovsky and what is he doing (to whom he submits)?

[Egoza]

Quote: lukke

Question: where is Khodakovsky and what is he doing (to whom he submits)?

It seems to me that it’s Khodakovsky who the Cossack was sent there, or rather bought, you know who.

[Hajj]

Bought (Akhmetov) and mishandled (Kiev) is not exactly the same thing. I think if there were strong evidence of despatch, Strelkov would have voiced them for a long time and Khodakovsky would not have been there.

[RUSS]

At the same time, Lukashevich noted that Russia will support the OSCE events, which are (hereinafter referred to as quotation) an important monitoring mechanism. How many more days (months, years) this “important monitoring of the OSCE” will continue, the Russian Foreign Ministry did not specify.

Lukashevich is a normal man and an experienced diplomat, I think he is ashamed of his words, but our diplomats have nothing to say .... but we must speak.

[Egoza]

Quote: RUSS

Russia will support the OSCE events, which are (hereinafter referred to as quotation) an important monitoring mechanism.

The OSCE has already stated that it is increasing the number of observers - now 300, will be 500, and has invited Russia to participate in the monitoring.

[Urahan]

"You read somewhere, probably in your sources, about some kind of peacekeeping operation. Nothing like this. And in my opinion, at the highest levels they already want to get this version, which was launched by someone, apparently on purpose, provoking a Russian reaction to the events in Ukraine. "
Maybe, of course, this is necessary, they - the experts in international politics - know better ... But somehow after such words you sit and wrap yourself around ... It's a shame ...

[BEGGAR]

“You've read somewhere, probably in your sources, about some kind of peacekeeping operation. Nothing of the kind. And in my opinion, at the highest levels this version, which was launched by someone, apparently on purpose, provoking a Russian reaction to events in Ukraine, they want to get it. "

And what can they do? They rang the bell, they arrested a deputy miscarriage in the Maldives. But they all have miscarriages over the hill, as hostages. Plus loot. And what, they will save the innocent victims? I DOUBT

[Loner_53]

YOU are right, ashamed and insulting

[services]

One gets the impression that the shelling of the Russian-speaking cities of Donbass is revenge for the shelling by Assad Aleppo, so that the Western press will remain silent even if the cities are wiped off the face of the earth ...

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Well, let’s take it .. where to go .. (most importantly children ..) The slaughter is planned serious! And all these OSCE UN State Deputies slurries .. The junta goes all-in!

[BEGGAR]

I’m wildly sorry, I’m not hinting at anything, but in our city center this photo can be done. This is me about the great Russian Federation

[shuhartred]

Quote: BEGGAR

I’m wildly sorry, I’m not hinting at anything, but in our city center this photo can be done. This is me about the great Russian Federation

Make, post on the forum, specify the city and street. Let's see what you have for "Dresden". Photos from the times of the Nazi occupation, please do not post.

[SPAAARTAAA]

Well, in which city of the Russian Federation do you live?

[BEGGAR]

Astrakhan, I’ll try to take a picture. A street, for example, Sofia Perovskaya.

[Wheel]

Well, why go somewhere and take something, for a long time everything is there.

[Wheel]

Another plus

more on the website of Mr. Kizela

[BEGGAR]

I am very grateful to you, comrade!

[shuhartred]

Quote: BEGGAR

I am very grateful to you, comrade!

Sorry, but these photos do not draw on the results of the shelling. Abandoned abandoned ones that could not be demolished. In almost any country in the world, such photos can be taken. Especially in the "great psi.n.d.s.i.i." We note that there was no war, no perestroika and other "reforms".

[tomket]

I wonder if someone will have a desire, over time, to use hundreds of thousands of refugees as a "Czechoslovak Corps" ???

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: tomket

I wonder if someone will have a desire, over time, to use hundreds of thousands of refugees as a "Czechoslovak Corps" ???

This option is possible..but hardly feasible The people of Russia survived the 90s and knows what's what .. They want to destroy us as a nation as a state (ask any grandmother or young ones) This feeling exists at the genetic level .. (I don’t look. .))))

[Anper]

Quote: MIKHAN

. (I do not watch Kiselev ..))))

From Ukraine. Kiselev (Russian, and like ours, Ukrainian)), of course, is not very pleasant, but, oddly enough, sometimes his exhausts push us to comprehend what is happening. Here our maydauns, choking on saliva, all asked me "Well, well, where here for the Russian language beat the population? " But, in fact, they do not beat. The Russian language has been systematically and purposefully destroyed since the 90s. at the state level, completely removing it from schools and universities (this is not a bloody Soviet regime for you - for 28 schools in the city - 1/4 of the Russians), TV broadcasts in Russian - only because there are no smart Ukrainian ones or they are designed for the Russian audience ... And if not for Kiselev - and would not have thought.

[26rus]

Women, children, the elderly - naturally it is necessary to accept and equip. Men capable of holding weapons - to mobilize, send to training camps, then to the front. To do this, create commandant offices and military commissariats of Novorossia at border crossings. Residents of Donbass must finally understand that hoping for Russia is good and right, but they themselves must do something for themselves.

[MIKHAIL-163]

Sorry, but you won’t force anyone! !!! If you feel shaky, it’s most likely for life !!! How sad it is FACT !!

[DOMINO100]

it’s not difficult to understand what they want to do. Slavyansk and Kramatorsk compared to Donetsk villages. But they are still a big city. People are more coddled. And when they start pecking every day, and they start despite the vomit of gunpowder, people will become more indignant than in those gorodishkah. plus alarmists throw 200 people, they need boiling. and so they will not take the city.

[saag]

Yes, no weak evacuation is expected

[Geo]

Recall 1941 That was the evacuation ... With millions of people, with factories, with factories, and beyond the Urals. Before Tajikistan, the population was transferred, nothing was defeated, and part of the population of the occupied territory was saved.

[DOMINO100]

well, you compared. against the USSR there was a 10-million-strong army, and not some kind of soap from Ternopil, but I’m gritsko from a half-ditch, and the Wehrmacht’s troops had already passed all of Europe. And the USSR at that moment was supposed to save industry. Something like that .. Sorry, and millions of Soviet people are not able to fight.

[Geo]

I'm talking about the fact that the scale is incomparable - Donetsk and Lugansk, so that we have already experienced in the Second World War. This is not a disaster nationwide, but for everyone personally, of course, a tragedy.

[DOMINO100]

Well, hard to disagree.

[Geo]

Unless, of course, proceed from the fact that there is an ordinary war, and not some kind of mess. And the war is against us (Russia, Russkiy Mir, the Russian-speaking population, Orthodox Christians, Slavs .. whatever you want to call it) but against us, then the "maneuvers" must be considered on the scale of the whole "our world", so two cities must be evacuated to save the population , and then return them there is logical. My opinion, of course.

[DOMINO100]

is it you slapped me minus? I kind of supported you ... but oh well.

[Geo]

No, it's not me. Apparently, the enemies will scream on the site. :)

[dgm]

And why not a truly PEACEFUL operation? We want peace!

[Geo]

How do you imagine it ?! Did our soldiers come without a UN resolution and began to "pacify" the army of a neighboring state? In this case, this is not a peacekeeping operation, but as in Georgia in 2008 "peace enforcement".

[Sanya Terek]

Yesterday at VO there was an article with the opinion of General Mr. Kanchukov. Why repeat it?

[vezunchik]

The battle in Ukraine is near the Russian checkpoint "Donetsk" in the Rostov region. Customs post evacuated. This was reported to ITAR-TASS by the head of the press service of the Southern Customs Administration Ryan Farukshin.

“The shooting on the other side does not cease. At 08:00 Moscow time, the personnel was evacuated to a safe distance inland, now the employees are in the administrative building of the city of Donetsk (Rostov Region). A car with a driver in the customs control zone was also evacuated, ”Farukshin said.

He noted that in the evening of July 9, due to the shooting that had occurred, workers at the Novoshakhtinsk point also left jobs. “At 20:30 Moscow time, the personnel of the customs post was forced to take refuge in the basement of the administrative building due to heavy shooting in the area of ​​the adjacent Dolzhansky checkpoint. At midnight, after the ceasefire, Russian customs officers were able to return to their jobs, ”Farukshin said, adding that the shooting was also heard at the Gukovo MAPP.

Recall that from the beginning of June, there is still no traffic through the Kuybyshevo MAPP due to the termination of the adjacent Marinovka checkpoint. However, Russian officials at the checkpoint are on the ground and are ready to allow individuals and vehicles to cross the border, said the representative of the Southern Customs Administration.

On the eve of the RIA Novosti news agency reported in the DPR that the Ukrainian security forces continue to transfer forces from the north of the Donetsk region. “Troops are being transferred from Krasny Lyman, movement near Volnovakha has also been noticed. In the western direction, in the Karlovka area, we managed to push the enemy away from the village of Galitsynovka with artillery fire, which he was going to occupy, ”the militia headquarters reported. Militias also reported the appearance in Donetsk of intelligence groups of security forces.

[kelevra]

To be honest, such an answer by Lukashevich just killed me! Of course, I am for Putin and Russia, but this seems to me a clear betrayal of the population of Novrossia!

[strelok93rus]

Quote: Black and White

Everything is still nothing new.
we accept hundreds of thousands of refugees, thousands die, we complain to the OSCE and other mongrels ...

as it’s already sickening to listen to it. It remains to rely on Strelkova so that his nerves can withstand it.

[v245721]

once again, don’t send troops, give weapons and equipment.

[mamont5]

Vanga's prophecy about the Crimea and the Donbass. Took today at classmates.

"Vanga's prophecy about Crimea has come true, about Donetsk is coming true! ... Writer Sergei Lukyanenko remarked: It is interesting that at one time there was a quatrain in Vanga's predictions, which everyone considered the fantasy of a Bulgarian grandmother:" Crimea will break off from one coast and grow to another. " really - how can Crimea break away? Now we saw how ... But even more surprising is the following prediction, which was considered completely meaningless and incomprehensible. Try to understand it now! "Crimea will break off from one coast and grow to another ... In the edge of underground burrows and the man-made mountains will shake everything, from this much will collapse in the west and much will rise in the east. And the Sagittarius will come and will stand for twenty and three years, and what stood for twenty and three years will be rubbed into powder ... " if you carefully read Vanga! News Agency "Russian Novosti" looked with a fresh eye and found even more interesting moments. 543.4 "In the edge of underground holes and man-made mountains, everything will shake, from this will collapse a lot e in the west and much will rise in the east. And Sagittarius will come, and it will stand for twenty and three years, and what stood for twenty and three years will be erased into powder ... "Explanation:" In the edge of underground holes and man-made mountains "- it is obvious that Donetsk land, Sagittarius - Igor Strelkov is the leader defense of Novorossiya. “… And will stand for twenty and three years” - this is a prediction of the future, but the second part “and what stood for twenty and three years will be erased into powder…” is obvious… After the collapse of the USSR, the state existed for 23 years. But Sergei Lukyanenko did not pay attention to 544 at all, but it was also right on target! Namely: "There will be a cry, there will be gunpowder, there will be darkness, there will be a rabbit, but everything will scatter and be blown away by the wind ..." Explanation: the cry is Klitschko, gunpowder is Poroshenko (as a teenager he earned the nickname Gunpowder), rabbit is the nickname Yatsenyuk, darkness - Tymoshenko. Those interested can be convinced - buy or find the publication: Wang "Predictions and Prophecies", volume 4 Moscow, 1999, publishing house "TP". At the end, we will give her another prediction: “There is no force that could break Russia. Russia will develop, grow and grow stronger. Everything will melt like ice, only one thing will remain intact - the glory of Vladimir, the glory of Russia. Too much has been sacrificed. Nobody can stop Russia. She will sweep everything out of her way and not only survive, but also become the ruler of the world. "

[MSA]

She’ll sweep everything away from her path and not only survive, but also become the ruler of the world. ”

I would like it to happen faster.

[dimbass]

predictions about the rabbit and Co. appeared on the net after well-known events, so I personally have some doubts.
Yes, I heard the last part of the post for a long time, it’s a pity that I have to wait another 35 years before execution.
To live.

[Denbfrkas]

how you got with your wang. Where she talked talked about Kursk, too, a lie, there is not a single video recording and an old newspaper from the archive.

[ATATA]

Quote: DenBfrkas

how you got with your wang. Where she talked talked about Kursk, too, a lie, there is not a single video recording and an old newspaper from the archive.

I found a way out to fight the URY with patriots and just idiots.
There is a black list.
Yesterday I’ve included all such people in it.
Today it’s at least a little bit possible to read comments.

[Wheel]

Quote: ATATA

I found a way out to fight the URY with patriots and just idiots.
There is a black list.
Yesterday I’ve included all such people in it.
Today it’s at least a little bit possible to read comments.

Not an option ...
Alas!

[Egoza]

Quote: DenBfrkas

Where she talked talked about Kursk, too, a lie, there is not a single video recording and an old newspaper from the archive.

You are probably still very young. There was such an article and more than one in Komsomolskaya Pravda. Why did you remember? Because then the correspondents of the Komsomolskaya Pravda went to the residents to ask how they feel about this phrase "Kursk will go under water and the whole world will mourn about it." Interesting answers were in Kursk -
-This grandmother grabbed, we have no sea here
- not our city and important so that the whole world mourns for it
Well, in general, everything in this regard - I don't remember anymore. But when the "Kursk" sank, that's when they remembered "But Wang spoke."

[Denbfrkas]

I heard this 1000 times only the number of the newspaper in the studio, another one told me that there was an article in a crocodile humor magazine, also there is no such issue as a compromise in lies. Understand that there are no UFOs and barobashes in the world, Babai was in Brownies in Slavyansk, and there are no predictors of bobakhs either. I understand people want to believe in miracles but the devil of fanaticism is necessary.

[kashik]

I myself am from Kursk, in local newspapers many times this prediction was discussed when there was nothing to write about. Year since 91.

[urganov]

Respected! Do not resent loudly if you are not aware of any fact. I perfectly remember the TV and newspaper articles about Vanga’s prophecy about Kursk: like this grandmother really moved, how can a city be under water. And that was in the early 70s.

[aleksfill]

And where are the miner divisions formed, they seem to have built up to 10 volunteers from themselves?
For two days Porosyenko ultimately threatened. Or only, with helmets on the asphalt, can they wage their salaries?

[Russ69]

Quote: aleksfill

And where are the miner divisions formed,

One, already formed ...

[Vitaly Anisimov]

That's what war is for, not for life but for death .. (otherwise bearded gay parades, children addicts and complete brain degradation will end up ..)

[Denbfrkas]

since the year 85, the Kremlin has been giving up and surrendering the interests of Russians. The question is once again, when did the USSR send troops to Vietnam, S. Korea to Cuba, Bvostok, eastern Europe and other places. Afraid of sanctions, 3 world war, threatened to threaten? And he fought against the navel of the land of America and not Che ... b.

[Geo]

I think the potential is now not the same, neither military nor economic. zv 23 years destroyed everything they could. But in the days of the USSR there were sanctions, but we had more "friends" in the socialist camp, and the United States had fewer (Eastern Europe, the Arab world, Latin America) We will not pull the fight already (or for now).

[Denbfrkas]

Well, Lugansk is across the ocean, and next to it there are not Koreans and Vietnamese but Russians.

[Geo]

I'm not talking about the people, but about the political influence, economic condition and military potential of the USSR in comparison with our current situation. Then one could afford to send troops to the moon at least. And the people of Donbass must be saved, no one here argues. Only the methods should be thought out competently, and not let the tanks in the "forehead" and reach Kiev with the "tricolor" hoisted over the Verkhovna Rada.

[Wheel]

Quote: Geo

I think the potential is now not the same, neither military nor economic. zv 23 years destroyed everything they could. But in the days of the USSR there were sanctions, but we had more "friends" in the socialist camp, and the United States had fewer (Eastern Europe, the Arab world, Latin America) We will not pull the fight already (or for now).

If you think a little, the picture is exactly the opposite.
This West will not pull the confrontation with Russia now.
They began to use Russia too actively.
In the days of the USSR, the West did not depend on the Union in anything.
Now, a break in relations will lead to an immediate and unambiguous economic catastrophe, starting from energy dependence and ending with the loss of the Russian market.
Russia, on the other hand, doesn’t depend on the West vitally, without the Sneakers, chips, and Coca-Cola, I think we will somehow manage (exaggerated, of course).
Regarding combat readiness, the post-Soviet conflicts and wars have shown the real level of combat readiness of NATO and mattresses. Do not shine, to say the least.
In addition, the West is well aware that by staying away during the turmoil, China will certainly take advantage of a fair weakening of the conflicting parties and will not seem to anyone.
Therefore, with sober reasoning, the peacekeeping operation to return Ukraine will not lead to anything from the west, except for a loud howl and making terrible faces.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: DenBfrkas

since the year 85, the Kremlin has been giving up and surrendering the interests of Russians. The question is once again, when did the USSR send troops to Vietnam, S. Korea to Cuba, Bvostok, eastern Europe and other places. Afraid of sanctions, 3 world war, threatened to threaten? And he fought against the navel of the land of America and not Che ... b.

No need to bark at idle .. (go to the censor ..)

[Denbfrkas]

no need to tell me where to go, did I ask you for advice?

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: DenBfrkas

no need to tell me where to go, did I ask you for advice?

No, they didn’t ask .. I just answered your post .. and that’s it! What is this (I didn’t even minus you) Write! but keep in mind you need to be more modest and have enough emotions here .. Did you understand me I hope?

[Denbfrkas]

I am always modest and calm. I asked a question, and in response they send me.

[Committee]

They don’t finish something and think of little information ...

[Agent 008]

In vain is this Lukashevich from the Foreign Ministry making such statements. On the contrary, Poroshenko must be kept in suspense so that the pictures where our troops enter Kiev, he dreamed every night, and he woke up in a cold sweat ... And when the zhinka asks him: "What is my piglet, has a nightmare again?" will answer: "ugh, it's good that only a dream."

[Geo]

And shouting "Russians are coming!" jumped through the window. I think he is not too afraid of this. Just like, in his time, the "tie-eating" Saakashvili will simply wash off to Europe, and Russia will have to clean up the porridge he brewed. His task is complete.

[Denbfrkas]

Quote: aleksfill

And where are the miner divisions formed, they seem to have built up to 10 volunteers from themselves?
For two days Porosyenko ultimately threatened. Or only, with helmets on the asphalt, can they wage their salaries?

you don’t have all of our blood in the Donbas. Let's put all of them, even fighting with 50s carbines against tanks and planes is cool. the clashes didn’t give out as a month the guys were given not even self-loading gwentivka even 100 rounds of ammunition but they told someone to get it from the enemy.

[Russ69]

10.07.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX. The message of the press center of the DPR.

"In the DPR, a new vice prime minister has been appointed for state security.
Vladimir Yurievich Antyufeev was appointed Vice Prime Minister of the Donetsk People's Republic for State Security. He was presented to journalists at a joint press conference in which Alexander Boroday and Igor Strelkov took part. 1992 to 2012 Antyufeev served as Minister of State Security of the Pridnestrovskaia Moldavskaia Respublika. In 2004, he received the title of professor at the Academy of Military Sciences of Russia. “In the government of the Donetsk People’s Republic, I will oversee issues of state security, the courts, justice and internal affairs,” said a new member of the Council of Ministers. ”

10.07.14/XNUMX/XNUMX. Message from Igor Ivanovich Strelkov (press conference).
"If the militia wants to surrender weapons to the Ukrainian authorities, then such a fighter will be put on trial in the military field, if he wants to leave the unit for any other reason, then he must write a report, as is customary in all armies of the world, which will be considered by the leadership and by which an appropriate formal decision will be made. "

[Dave36]

At the moment, Ukrov is attacking Karlovka ... they won’t hold ... there will be a paragraph

[Const]

Tactics KIEV - the tactics of North American tyrants. The distance of long-range defeat does not give reliable orientation to the target, which are people, cars. T.O. dill deliberately iron cities and villages, simply from helplessness.

[Egoza]

Quote: Const

T.O. dill deliberately iron cities and villages, simply from helplessness.

Rather, for the report and in order to demand more money.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

There is a regrouping .. Strelkov Well done! how everything immediately spun on all fronts of New Russia!
No wonder he left Slavyansk ..! (Soon back .. but with serious force)

A new deputy prime minister for state security has been appointed to the DPR.
vk.com/strelkov_info?w=wall-57424472_6014
This is very good news for the DPR - Antyufeev - just a drop dead specialist headed the Ministry of State Security of Transnistria for more than 20 years - it was he who organized the border guards and all the special services of the PMR - which the Romanian sabotage groups neutralized and caught mercenaries during the war and then the MGB - was at its best - the most combat-friendly units of our army.

[B.G.-54]

It is disgusting to feel that our country is once again betraying Russian ... a lot of words, but they are obscene ...

[Geo]

Our country is us, not the president or government. Whoever wants, he has already crossed the border and stood up. And to sit on the couch and wait for the 18-year-old, the 19-year-old conscript to go without any desire to fight is not consciously for the citizen. Also, let someone say that the president personally prohibits joining the militia of New Russia. And do not criticize someone if he himself did nothing.

[Denbfrkas]

Quote: B.G.-54

It is disgusting to feel that our country is once again betraying Russian ... a lot of words, but they are obscene ...

And it's disgusting that this is not the last time.

[shaman-25rus]

On the great "in Ukraine"
Lucifer rules the ball
He Maidan "cattle"
I put the bent "yer" into the "dupe"
And unscrupulous
Gruntingly grunting in ecstasy
Led in power respectably
Freshly hatched scum.
Not doctors and scientists
Not the descendants of ancient nations-
Smoked hellish
Vile victims of rotten mutations.
Those taking root in power
Suppressing the protest brutally,
Flood dream blood
Dissent in the east.
But not long to wait-
The Russian cross has already been erected:
The Strelkovites will rest a little,
And the troops will move west.
So get ready, you bastards
Harvest revenge is ripening ...
In the next world - the devils are happy -
Boilers warm you hotter.

And hoping it's not too late
I'll give you one simple tip:
"From the MAYDANFILIS brain,
There is no medicine except bullets. ”

[Denbfrkas]

As a lot of poets divorced.

[vallex8888]

74 thousand Kadyrovites are waiting for orders to enter the territory of Ukraine, they sit for free, they eat bread and receive money

[Agent 008]

So I noticed: every time after such statements by another Foreign Ministry official, the Ukrainian army goes on the offensive! Is there anything in the Foreign Ministry that moles are wound up?

[kindly man]

Putin is the first to blame for the destruction of the Russian people in Novorossia. Yes, he is not a defender of Russian children and women; his soul hurts for the three Jews killed in Israel. http://maxpark.com/community/politic/content/2852270

[bubalik]

Alexander Romanov (2) RU Today, 17: 39 ↑ even though it is clear that Russia will not intervene.

,,, may have to be all the same ,,,

Ukraine has pulled the Grad installation and the Osa complexes to the border with Crimea
The movement of heavy military equipment was noticed in the village of Strelkovoye, Genichesk district, Kherson region. According to a LifeNews source, armored personnel carriers, the Osa anti-aircraft missile system (SAM) and the Grad system are actively moving to the border with Crimea.
Meanwhile, the movement of Ukrainian military equipment in the Genichesky region was noticed as early as July 8. This was reported by the local information portal "New Visit". According to him, many vacationers and residents of the area saw a column of military equipment on the Arbat Spit. She moved towards the Crimean territory.

[boozer]

They are transferring forces through the south of Ukraine, then up to the border and further to Lugansk, they are preparing a complete encirclement. And where is the Crimea?

[bubalik]

boozer RU Today, 19: 20

,,, so I ask , and if all the same remain in the south of Ukraine?

[azbukin77]

Lukashevich full du..ak! Slippery, dodgy as it is! Cowardly to see!

[AIR ZNAK]

It seems that the moment of truth will be no later than September 1, judging by the actions of Kiev and Moscow. And the Kremlin warned deputies and officials to rest in the Crimea, not the Maldives. Depovskiy’s son didn’t listen, the result is resting in Guam. And daddy is moaning in his thought.

[Geo]

And the president warned, they don't listen. think it will cost. Now our officials will at least see them only on the "golden ring of Russia", Crimea, Krasnodar Territory, Baikal. Maybe they will think more about Russia. :)

[Lord of the Sith]

10.07.14/XNUMX/XNUMX Message from the militia

"A group of 27 militias broke through to Donetsk from Slavyansk. After the main forces of the militia left the city, they got out in small groups. Near Nikiforovka, they united and continued their way, making their way in a roundabout way to avoid meeting with the army of Ukrainian punishers. In the area between the village of Krasnoe and Artyomovsk A group of militiamen stumbled upon a checkpoint of the Ukrainian army and fought their way through. On the Ukrainian side, about 6-8 killed and a burnt armored personnel carrier. On the side of the militia, two were killed and two wounded - one seriously. Later he died on the way to Donetsk. The second was carried out on homemade The militias managed to take with them a recoilless gun with two shells. One of the soldiers “survived” to Donetsk, with the help of the second an armored personnel carrier in Artemovsk was burned. None of the fighters managed to avoid injuries and concussions of varying severity. All of them are already provided with qualified medical care . "

[boozer]

Here is a fresh map of the fighting. http://strannik-rf.livejournal.com/ Just do not understand where Karlovka?

[MAG]

from the Donetsk airport to the north-west near the reservoir of the same name

[Egen]

Yes, this is a map from yesterday’s Komsomolka’s, yesterday they discussed at the forum that looking at it, in the development of events, the Republics have no chance — without direct military assistance from Russia — simply :(.
And tovarisch Alexander Lukashevich said directly above - "Nothing of the kind" :(
So we will prepare for
1) Refugee Reception
Xnumx) the coming war
Shl here it is interesting WHEN (not IF!) - then the Nazis will attack Russia, they will rebalance with the hands of ukrov or Kazakhs, this is another question - what will our elite do? Where to rattle, it’s kind of like a ban for officials to have something abroad ... like ...

[Flatter]

A fair statement by A Boroday. If the Russians do not abandon their own, then let them accept. The OSCE mission at the border is carried out at the request of the Russian side in order to prove the lack of military assistance to the militias.

[Geo]

and who transfers "contraband" through the official points of customs control ?! and then no one will let them in, it is dangerous, they say, "hooligans" shoot

[siberalt]

Why are Donetsk prepared for flight to Russia? Judging by the general mood, not all militias are there. There are also neighboring Ukrainian regions with a Russian-speaking population. Moreover, pensions and benefits remain. So it seems that this Great Exodus was planned in advance. What kind of quatrains does Vanga have there, let the lovers of deciphering dreams dream, but Ukrainian Oles Buzina talked about this outcome on Russian TV about four months ago.

[kind]

For some reason, in Chechnya and Georgia, Ukrainians did not fight on the side of Russia. Now they take pity on us: "They are killing us, save us !!!" So after all, we are saving, we are adding refugees, we are sending humanitarian aid, and why should our guys fight against the junta, which the Ukrainians themselves have missed, while healthy men are either inactive or have gone to refugees.

[Geo]

All that under the "one comb, do not scratch." Not the same people fought in Chechnya and live in Donbass. rather, those who are now fighting against "her" in the Donbass and fought against us in Chechnya.

[Agent 008]

Quote: azbukin77

Lukashevich full du..ak! Slippery, dodgy as it is! Cowardly to see!

Yes, he is essentially no one, so, a screw in the mechanism! They give him a PAPER - he reads out ... But the one who composes these papers can be asked - why?

[komrad.klim]

Quote: services

One gets the impression that the shelling of the Russian-speaking cities of Donbass is revenge for the shelling by Assad Aleppo, so that the Western press will remain silent even if the cities are wiped off the face of the earth ...

the roots are here:

[Yarik]

Fidget Today, 18:30 ↑ New
Quote: portoc65
One of the plans of the Kiev junta is to liberate Ukraine from the pro-Russian population and populate the liberated lands with ethnic Ukrainians
Well, for starters, Yatsenyuk offers to return to refugees and help rebuild cities and towns. I ran away! How to destroy - and restore. But how to destroy - is full of willing, but how to work - Russian? A cookie to you!


Not a cookie, but a bolt in a banal (commonplace for some) hole.

[Russ69]

Respect for the peasants ...
From nothingness
When no one was already waiting, 27 militiamen left the boiler near Slavyansk to make their heroic raid on the rear of the enemy and successfully leave for their own. A true classic reminiscent of the heroism of Soviet soldiers in 1941, passing hundreds of kilometers through the rear of the enemy.
A group of 27 militiamen broke into Donetsk from Slavyansk. After the city left the main militia forces, they were selected in small groups. Near Nikiforovka they united and continued their journey, making their way in a roundabout way to avoid meeting with the army of Ukrainian punishers. Somewhere between the village. The Red and Artyomovsky group of militias stumbled upon a checkpoint of the Ukrainian army and broke through further with battle. On the Ukrainian side there are about 6-8 killed and an armored personnel carrier burned. On the part of the militias, two killed and two wounded - one is heavy. He later died on his way to Donetsk. The second was carried out on a makeshift stretcher.
“We walked 100 kilometers and stayed alive. So, this is not in vain. We will continue to fight, we have nowhere to retreat. The one Slavyansk, who was already gone, was destroyed by Ukrainian terrorists, ”said the 31-year-old militia officer, electrician Valery.
The militia managed to take out a recoilless gun with two shells. One "lived" to Donetsk, with the help of the second, an armored personnel carrier was burned in Artemovsk.
Among the breakthroughs from the environment - Sergey Nikolaevich with 10-year-old granddaughter Katya. His daughter, Katya's mother, died in Slavyansk as a result of an artillery strike by the Ukrainian army on July 3. “Those who follow what is happening on television and did not encounter dill in battle did not speak with the prisoners, he does not understand what is happening. They came to kill, they want our blood. Where this hatred comes from, I don’t know. And I have no time to understand, ahead of the war. The situation today is either we are them, or they are us. There is no turning back, ”says Alexander Denisovich, a 53-year-old militia.
None of the fighters managed to avoid injuries and concussions of varying severity. All of them are already being provided with qualified medical assistance, the government of the republic provides material compensation.

[fed11]

I personally think that if there was a war in my city I would not have fled to Russia and would have stood until the end but why if out of 7 million in Novorossia they cannot get 50 thousand you watch on TV and disgusting men of 25-35 years old sit and eat women and children

[Andron_by]

На одном из новостных порталов Донбасса появилась заметка, посвящённая действиям украинских силовиков в ходе операции в Новороссии. В частности, в статье под названием «Украинские каратели расстреливают жилые районы Артёмовска» автор рассказал, как подконтрольные Киеву военные расстреляли из бронетехники ряд зданий в городе, который уже покинули ополченцы.

Один из украинствующих читателей в комментариях пообещал расправиться с автором заметки. Однако редактор портала «Единый Донбасс» Алексей Петров оказался не робкого десятка и пригласил оппонента на беседу.



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[Russ69]

Активист Майдана, казак Михаил Гаврилюк, командующий казачьим батальоном добровольцев в составе Национальной гвардии, взят в плен ополченцами на территории самопровозглашенной Донецкой Народной Республики, на блокпосту между Славянском и Донецком. Гаврилюк стал известен после того, как 23 января во время беспорядков в Киеве в Интернет попало видео, на котором бойцы отряда “Беркут” держат его на улице обнаженным. Тогда МВД Украины открыло производство по статье "Превышение власти или служебных полномочий".
В дальнейшем суд признал двух беркутовцев виновными в преступлении и приговорил одного к трем годам лишения свободы с испытательным сроком на год, другого – к двум годам ограничения свободы с аналогичным испытательным сроком. После завершения Евромайдана Михаил Гаврилюк собрал из добровольцев казачий батальон, вступил в Национальную гвардию Украины и поехал воевать с ополченцами на юго-восток страны.

Это тот самый...

[Lord of the Sith]

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[diamond]

ребята, никто ничего не слил, не переживайте)))

[Geo]

Тут уже непонятно кто кого "сливает"...

[Lord of the Sith]

10.07.14/XNUMX/XNUMX Message from the militia

"As of 17: 00, according to unspecified information in the Krasnodon region, a pair of dryers has been shot down."

[S_W_A_T_72]

А вот интересная ссылочка, мне понравилось.....Погрузка техники в помощь Юго-Востоку....

https://yadi.sk/d/BcTEfx2UWM6Fz/Погрузка%20военной%20техники%20для%20Новороссии%
20в%20Ростове.mp4

[waisson]

нужен Приднестровский вариант миротворцев но не в коем случае нельзя допустить войска ООН

[Lord of the Sith]

Моторола в ресторане с женой

[Lord of the Sith]

Ставленик Киева на должность гяуляйтера Донецка Сергей Тарута заявил, что батальон Коломойского "Днепр" будет убран из области. Оригинальный фокус, особенно с учетом того, что этот батальон сегодня полег в боях под Карловкой, попавшись в западню.

«Мы будем защищать себя сами, и в этой связи не вижу необходимости пребывания военизированных подразделений из других областей», — заявил Тарута на встрече с городскими властями Курахово.

«Батальоны «Днепр» будет убран» - пояснил он.

По имеющимся на сегодня боевым сводкам "Днепр" уже убрали. Так что Сергею Таруте остается только привычная канцелярская работа: списать отборных фашистов врасход.

[GHOST29RUS]

Миротворцев на Украину не введут, из-за того что ООН не даст согласия на их ввод. Потому что в ООН есть ы

[Koshak]

Quote: fyvaprold

[quote = Sandov] Sandov [/ quote] I put you minus exclusively for "left" picture. Well tell me, right, what does the shooter have to do with Group Adepicted in the background? Maybe stop posting campaign leaflets? At least wait for the presidential election (I don’t know where the shooters are going to preside), and now the election campaign is a clear excess. With respect.

Стрелков всегда говорил, что он не политик, а военный. Не нужно ему приписывать президентские амбиции.

[Vesnik]

Quote: Canep

.......думаю лучше воздержаться от применения силы.

Правильно! Воздержитесь.
Америка по ходу даже не думает и не смотрит "кто-там, ...что", берет, вмешивается и бомбит.
Здесь "все думают". Уже и так окружили со всех сторон.
Когда Европа России помогала?..да никогда...все испокон веков было наоборот. 2Й фронт в 1944- не в счет, когда все уже было решено..
Помощь нужна. Или мы или они. Все просто. Здесь просто "закрученная" какая то "шахматная" комбинация.
Настроен оптимистично.

[Lord of the Sith]

10.07.14 Аэропорт Донецка

[Finches]

Я, как простой обыватель не знаю и сотой части той информации, которой владеет руководство страны! Естественно им виднее, как поступать в этой ситуации, но?! И обладая всеми знаниями о происходящем многие руководители поступали не верно. В этом случае все рассудит история!
Это то что понимает или старается понять голова !
А вот сердце (мое сердце человека рожденного и закончившего школу в СССР) говорит лишь об одном-ввести войска, уничтожить сопротивляющихся с оружием, выслать не согласных и присоединить Украину обратно к России, потому что Украина это ее законная часть! Обильно политая кровью наших предков!
Чужой земли нам не надо, но своей и пяди отдавать по-прежнему не следует!

[Naval]

This is a repost from the Novorossia website, Strelkov needs to be supported.
"Friends, I appeal to you once again
Now on the portal Vzdlyad there is an online voting between Gubarev and Kurginyan. The day before yesterday, the situation was as follows: Gubarev was cast a vote of 1000, and Kurgenyan was less than 100. Now Gubarev is 3600, and Kurgenyan is already 1900. Every hour, the number for Kurgenyan is increasing by 100. Probably, bots are activated or additional Surkov-Kurgenyan forces are brought in, giving such numbers .
Let's vote for Gubarev! Let's prove that Gubarev is a hero, and Kurginyan is a political prostitute.
To vote for Gubarev - follow the link:

http://vz.ru/discussions/2014/7/8/694640.html"

[Wagron]

The link does not work.

[boozer]

Видео с места боев в районе Донецкого аэропорта. Кстати обратите внимание как закреплена "бронировка" на автомашины, Югославский вариант. Молодцы, подготовились, время зря не теряли, да и есть кому подсказать!

[avia1991]

Вот уж действительно: "ДА КАК ВАМ ТАКОЕ В ГОЛОВУ МОГЛО ПРИЙТИ?! ЧТОБ РОССИЯ ВВОДИЛА СВОИХ МИРОТВОРЦЕВ В УКРАИНУ? ДА БОЖЕ УПАСИ! НАМ ДАЖЕ ПОДУМАТЬ О ТАКОМ СТРАШНО!.. А если снова начнут нашу территорию обстреливать - мы Киев тоннами бумажек с протестами закидаем!"

Стыдно и противно осознавать, что это говорят представители НАШЕЙ ВЛАСТИ. И страшно понимать, что они действительно решили не вмешиваться. Президента надо бы на учебу командировать - В ИЗРАИЛЬ! Там умеют себя вести с теми, кто нарушает покой израильских граждан..

[Yugra]

Пока на Донбассе есть такие бойцы как Бес,нашим пока надо быть спокойными,но наготове

[DOMINO100]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELPFnTCm8GA

аж дух захватывает! а ведь украинцам не правильным с этим столкнутся придётся.

[understudy]

"...По лицу фюрера было видно, что это не обычное совещание, и как только он заставил присутствующих дать обещание соблюдать секретность, все насторожились. Шок наступил очень скоро, когда Гитлер попросил «в интересах долгосрочной германской политики рассматривать его заявление, в случае его смерти, как политическое завещание». Целью германской политики, подчеркнул фюрер, является обеспечение, сохранение и укрепление расового общества. Будущее Германии зависит от приобретения достаточного жизненного пространства, а найти его можно только в Европе. «Пространств без хозяина никогда не было, нет их и сейчас, нападающий всегда сталкивается с владельцем, – утверждал фюрер. – Перед Германией стоит вопрос: где она могла бы добиться самого крупного выигрыша при минимальных затратах?» Эта проблема, сообщил он ошеломленным слушателям, «может быть решена только силой, что всегда сопровождается риском».
Германская мощь, продолжал он, достигнет своего пика лет через шесть. Надо идти в наступление, пока другие готовятся к обороне. Проблема жизненного пространства для Германии должна быть решена самое позднее к 1943 – 1945 годам..." (с)
___________________________________

Похоже, вот откуда у укров мания величия начало берет... Всерьез восприняли тезисы Гитлера и озаботились зачисткой "жизненного пространства" для расселения чистокровных бандерлогов?

[Mik-51]

Quote: aksakal

Read more.
And now, more specifically, to the question:

Quote: datur

But what were you doing all this time, all this huyuyuya in DONETSK?

- What did the Donetsk people do? And here's what: Let me remind you - two ideological ones, namely Borodai and Girkin, came to Donetsk with the ideological goals of "helping Mother Russia." We agreed - one will focus on defense (as you understand, this is Girkin), the other, Borodai, will focus on creating the republic as such. That is, Boroday needed all the institutions of the state, everything, including the social security system, the fiscal system, the treasury, financial authorities, the education and health care system and all others, to squeeze out of Ukraine and force them to work autonomously, redirecting tax flows to the internal Donetsk treasury, which would essentially be a separation. This did not happen, but there was a stupid paralysis of the power and law enforcement system of the Donetsk region, thanks to which incomprehensible armed people began to walk with impunity throughout the Donetsk region, it is good, at least not to be bandits (individual incidents do not count, there is no systematicity), calling themselves the people's militia, but at the same time, all other state institutions and companies worked as usual, with subordination to Kiev, everything as usual. Stupidly, while Girkin heroically defended Slavyansk, Borodai did nothing, simply calling himself "the prime minister of the DPR", nothing at all. And it won't do it already. And Girkin, who, in addition to direct leadership of military affairs, also decided to resolve the issue with the real organization of the DPR, for which he escaped from the encirclement, will also do little in real life. Prior to that, Borodai had threatened to nationalize Akhmetov's assets. Things did not go further than declarations. Why? Because everyone else - Pushilin, Khodakovsky, and others - are Akhmetov's people! That's all! Two romantics will not do anything here, Duc and also begin to get tangled under the feet of the big uncles! And then Surkov persuaded Putin (most likely) to settle the issue on the quiet with those who have real influence in Donetsk and are at the same time weighty in Kiev. There is only one such person - Akhmetov. And Akhmetov is an oligarch, this is just a herd, sometimes Surkov is used to herding. And now negotiations are in full swing, there is trade, and then one of the romantics breaks out of the encirclement and begins his game: "We will never reconcile! Get the wax out of the DPR!" etc. In addition to these two romantics, no one is interested in an independent DPR - neither Kiev, nor Russia (it will be satisfied with the guarantees of Ukraine's non-aligned nature, and there are other details), nor the West, not even the population of Donetsk. Well, that means there will be no DNR either. And Luhansk is a separate topic. Akhmetov does not need Lugansk, Russia does not, either, but in Lugansk, unlike Donetsk, there was a real separation from Kiev, Bolotov was able to do this, and an almost full-fledged army appeared. Lugansk will be soaked seriously. With no interference from Russia. To be continued. Sit down comfortably. Popcorn, cola?
And before Shpak, I apologize. You should not climb into this moth, it is still unknown how Girkin and Borodai will be able to get out.

Внимательно прочитал ОПУСЫ АКСАКАЛА...
много думал...:-))))) смеялся
и пытался предположить - кем же является этот аксакал, коли с ним советуются и всё ему рассказывают в подробностях и Путин, и Сурков, и Ахметов...

Потом понял - простой провокатор, может быть искренне завидующий такой всенародной поддержке не Гиркина, а СТРЕЛКОВА!!!
Тебе, аксакалушка, к.а.к.а.т.ь и к.а.к.а.т.ь до этого человека.
Заканчивай испражняться...

[avia1991]

Quote: mik-51

Внимательно прочитал ОПУСЫ АКСАКАЛА...
много думал...:-))))) смеялся

Михаил, рад, что Вы внимательно это прочитали - но нам-то здесь тааакую цитату зачем выкладывать? Не проще ссылочку вставить - кому интересно, прочтут!
Сейчас много рассуждений на эту тему появилось, и здесь, в общем-то, "аксакал" ничего плохого о Стрелкове не говорит: разве плохо быть романтиком? Искренне верить в Правду и Справедливость?
А по поводу "провокаторства" - так власть активно дает повод за поводом так думать. К тому же, всякого рода закулисные "игрища" от наших глаз скрыты, ничего удивительного, что рассуждения о Суркове, который "уговорил Путина", кажутся нам бредом.. но посмотрите, как себя ведут СМИ, что говорят, и с какими интонациями? Похоже.. к сожалению, ОЧЕНЬ ПОХОЖЕ..
Надежда на людей, и только. На добровольцев, на гуманитарку, на стойкость народного руководства республик - не верю я, что ВСЕ там продажные!
The problem is that Новороссия - в том виде, как она задумана тем же Губаревым - НЕ ВЫГОДНА НИКОМУ. Кроме самих новороссов.

[Neighbor from below]

Еще несколько тысяч ртов,рук и желающих получить имущество,и работу. А нужно ли это России?

[Agent 008]

Предлагаю модераторам не печатать больше заявления МИДа, потому что их можно разделить на две категории:

1. Заявление решительного протеста в связи с обстрелом Российской территории!
2. Выражение озабоченности в связи - (вставить любое преступление Хунты)

Тройка ПМО - (Путин-Меркель-Олланд) по телефону договариваются о каком-то мифическом мире и переговорах, которых УЖЕ НИКОГДА не будет!

Вот эти заявления политиков можно не печатать, потому что это - лапша на уши Россиян...

[pvv113]

Последняя инфоромация о потерях нацистов:
http://vk.com/id163797967

Igor Panarin
Общие потери карателей в Донбассе за 2 мая - 10 июля 2014 года – 4660 человек. В течении двух суток каратели понесли большие потери под Карловкой (фактически уничтожен батальон карателей Коломойского "Днепр"), под Славянском и Краматорском, на аэродромах в Луганске и Донецке (более 200 убитых наемников).
So, the total loss of punitive - 4660 people (killed, wounded, prisoners): of them
- 1700 extremists "Right Sector", mainly included in the National Guard, as well as losses among the soldiers of the National Guard of Ukraine. On May 29, Major General Sergei Kulchitsky, head of the National Guard Combat Training Directorate, was assassinated under Slavyansk.
- 1370 Ukrainian mercenaries of Kolomoisky (special battalions of Ukrainian mercenaries of Olomoisky "Dnepr", "Donbass", "Aydar" and "Azov", etc.). In May, the leaders of Kolomoisky's mercenaries Demidenko and Bereza were killed in Mariupol.
- 115 employees of the Security Service of Ukraine (Sumy Alpha completely destroyed, Kiev, Poltava, Ternopil, Ivano-Frankivsk, Lviv, Rivne, Lutsk, Volyn, Vinnitsa, Zhytomyr Alpha suffered great losses, etc.)
- 300 foreign mercenary: Polish PMC "ASBS Othago" lost 109 people, the American PMC "Graystone" - 40 people., American PMC "Asademi" (up to 2009, known as Blackwater) - 125 people. Baltic women snipers lost 26 man.
- 190 military 95 airborne Zhytomyr brigade
- 150 military 25 airborne Dnipropetrovsk brigade
- 90 military 79 airborne brigade (Nikolaev)
- 70 military 24 mechanized brigade (city Yavoriv, ​​Lviv region)
-130 military personnel of the 80th airmobile regiment (Lviv)
- 40 military 3 Special Forces Regiment (Kirovograd)
- 15 military 8 Special Forces Regiment (Khmelnitsky)
- 50 military 93 mechanized brigade (v. Cherkassky, Novomoskovsk district of Dnipropetrovsk region)
- 45 military 72 mechanized brigade (Belaya Tserkov, Kyiv region)
- 55 military personnel of the Lugansk border detachment
- 40 servicemen of the Donetsk border guard unit
- 30 military personnel of the 51 Brigade of Army Aviation of the National Guard (Alexandria, Kirovograd Region)
- 30 military personnel of the 16 Army Aviation Brigade (Brody, Lviv region)
-30 military personnel of 128 mountain infantry brigade (Mukachevo, Transcarpathian region)
- 50 Territorial Defense Battalion Service Men
- 25 military personnel of the 831 brigade of tactical aviation (Mirgorod, Poltava region)
-5 military personnel of 114 tactical aviation brigade (Ivano-Frankivsk)
-20 military personnel of the 299th tactical aviation brigade (Nikolaev)
- 5 servicemen from a reconnaissance aircraft AN-30, shot down by 6 June (tentatively of the city of Chuguev, Kharkiv region)
- 25 CIA and FBI officers (13 killed, 12 injured)
- 40 MIA employees
Destroyed equipment:
-1 aircraft AN-26
-1 reconnaissance aircraft AN-30
- 2 Aircraft - IL 76
- 6 of Su-25 airplanes (+ 1 SU-25 captured on July 7)
- 5 Su-24 aircraft
- 4 drone
- 18 attack helicopters ("Mi-24", "Mi-17" and "Mi-8")
- 32 T-64 tanks
- 7 T-72 tanks
- 5 Hammers
- 10 Gas-66
- headquarters machine
- truck crane
- 14 Uralov
- 14 KAMAZ
-2 UAZ 469
-2 SAU-Nona
-1 anti-aircraft gun ZU 23-2
-4 installation MLRS GRAD
-6 installations MLRS Hurricane
- 9 D-30 howitzers
-12 122 mm mortars
- 28 BMP
- 35 BMD.
- 76 BTR.

[fed11]

Quote: Nick

quote

Quote: Nick

quote

Quote: Nick

Quote: Black and White

Everything is still nothing new.
accept hundreds of thousands of refugees, thousands die, complain to the OSCE

And you, as I understand it, are against the reception of refugees, and the involvement of international bodies to suppress the genocide in New Russia.
You are a big minus from me personally.

Quote: Nick

Quote: Black and White

Everything is still nothing new.
accept hundreds of thousands of refugees, thousands die, complain to the OSCE

And you, as I understand it, are against the reception of refugees, and the involvement of international bodies to suppress the genocide in New Russia.
You are a big minus from me personally.

Quote: Nick

Quote: Black and White

Everything is still nothing new.
accept hundreds of thousands of refugees, thousands die, complain to the OSCE

And you, as I understand it, are against the reception of refugees, and the involvement of international bodies to suppress the genocide in New Russia.
You are a big minus from me personally.

[VNP1958PVN]

Ну наконец то мы услышали твёрдую и решительную официальную точку зрения Москвы!

[Iskander Khan]

Quote:

"General conclusions. In the coming days, the main operations of the militia will be the destruction of encircled units of punishers (two airports and the southern border). In total, there are from 3 to 4 thousand enemy soldiers in the cauldrons. The destruction of these groups (and the chances are now greater than ever) must be carried out as soon as possible. In a week (after the completion of the regrouping of punitive forces) the chances will be much less. Therefore, there is some “haste." What is encouraging is that at every significant point there is an artillery fist of the militia. it is necessary at any cost to unblock their encircled detachments as soon as possible. If they do not succeed, then in addition to large human losses (comparable to losses for the entire period of the fighting), the junta's troops risk leaving large "trophies" of armored equipment in the hands of the militia. radically change the situation on the fronts. "

My advice for competent people in the Rostov region: to prepare the border. In order not to work, as with that APC. Dill is likely to flee to Russia than surrender to militias. Prepare shade and people. When approaching dill, be aware that surrender is done on foot without weapons with arms raised high. In the prince, it is not even necessary to control the entire border line. Nodal points. But the main forces must move on the same level with the troops of the DPR, only on the Russian side. As soon as they cross over - arrest for violating the border or fire for defeat.

Funny in what:

1. Russia will receive 2-4 thousand punishers against whom it is immediately possible to start a trial according to the White Paper. If you let anyone go, then like Strelkov - from hand to hand to mothers or relatives at the sight of video cameras so that they do not return or are not returned to punitive battalions and, moreover, are not shot like traitors.

2. Remember how much noise it turned out to raise from an armored personnel carrier. And then, it was rather a shame for Russia. An unrequited slap in the face. Now imagine 2-4 thousand caught offenders. Presented? Yes it will be a holiday!

3. Remember when I said that dill were given up on foot? They have a lot of technology. I understand the trophies. But the DNR needs it more. And most importantly, no violation of laws and "international law". The technique remains in Dill. You don't need to return anything. She is at home. And the fact that she was "picked up" by not so-called. "legal authority" and "terrorists" are the problems of the Indians. Russia was asked by the whole world not to interfere in the internal affairs of Ukropistan, so she did not interfere.
Everything is according to the law. Everybody is alive. Psaki chokes with saliva, inventing another nonsense.

The advice may also be deliberate, but any ingenious move before incarnation was the same.

I ask for a repost if the advice is sensible.

[fed11]

я не против женшин и детей мужики должны воевать

[fed11]

сейчас начнут долбить Донецк и Луганск беженцев будут уже за миллион если у них не найдется 20000 мужиков как можно такое терпеть может хотят быть рабами как в славянске

[fed11]

сейчас начнут долбить Донецк и Луганск беженцев будут уже за миллион если у них не найдется 20000 мужиков как можно такое терпеть может хотят быть рабами как в славянске

[fed11]

может я объясните мне почему Россия должна воевать если население Новороссии не хочет воевть 7000000 жителей 10000 воинов

[Denbfrkas]

Цитата: kashik

I myself am from Kursk, in local newspapers many times this prediction was discussed when there was nothing to write about. Year since 91.

дай ссылку на местную газету 91 года или фотку или скажи название номер я сам найду.Местных газет еще не было комправда была ,кракодил был по телику передача была только следов не осталось.Ванга не когда не говорила про Курск не чего.

[Denbfrkas]

Quote: urganov

Respected! Do not resent loudly if you are not aware of any fact. I perfectly remember the TV and newspaper articles about Vanga’s prophecy about Kursk: like this grandmother really moved, how can a city be under water. And that was in the early 70s.

О уже в начале 70 было раньше в 90 теперь в 70.Какая передача ? вспомните конкретно все только и коворят гдето когдато а факты где.?

[foxxi]

Quote: VengefulRat

It seems that another storm of the airport in Donetsk is planned



And another movie

по ходу убит снайпер, на нем спецкостюм типа "лешый".. работал видимо антиснайпер и мужики кругом явная спецура...

[zorch]

Обращение к Новороссии.
Братья и сестры! Жизнь это борьба со смертью. Наши деды отдали свои жизни в битве с гитлеровцами, чтобы мы могли счастливо жить и растить детей. Сейчас лютый враг пришел на вашу землю, он не щадит не стариков ни детей. Пришло ваше время сражаться за родную землю. Не пощадите своей жизни за вашу землю, за ваше будущее, за будущее ваших детей!
С вами Бог, вместе победим!

[yegor_k]

Quote: DenBfrkas

how you got with your wang. Where she talked talked about Kursk, too, a lie, there is not a single video recording and an old newspaper from the archive.

Про Курск не враньё. примерно за год до трагедии по радио слышал это предсказание, диктор отнёс его в разряд курьёзных, мол, как это равнинный город Курск может пойти на дно....

[Denbfrkas]

у же по радио было только вот жалость следов не осталось.Все газеты сожгли видео радио стерли. Был док фильм где ее брат или кто не помню родственик говорил что про Курск она не когда не говорила. Хоть один факт приведите вы ванго поклонники она состояла на гос службе Болгарии(В 1967 году Ванга была оформлена как государственная служащая. С этого момента она стала получать официальную зарплату — 200 левов в месяц, а визит к ней стоил для граждан социалистических государств — 10 левов, для граждан «западных» государств — 50 долларов. До этого момента Ванга принимала людей бесплатно, принимая лишь разные подарки[4].)(В то же время люди, знавшие Вангу лично, говорят, что она не давала предсказаний о гибели подводной лодки Курск, как и прочие события, а большинство всех этих сообщений мифы и неправда.[10][11] Известны многочисленные случаи, когда приписываемое Ванге не сбывалось на самом деле. Например, было предсказано, что в финале чемпионата мира по футболу 1994 года будут бороться «две команды начинающиеся на букву „Б“», однако в финал из всех стран, название которых начинается на букву «Б», вышла только Бразилия, в то время как Болгария проиграла в полуфинале Италии и осталась четвёртой.[12] Ванга якобы предсказывала, что Третья мировая война начнётся в ноябре 2010 года, а закончится в октябре 2014 года.[13][14] Согласно свидетельству близких друзей Ванги она никогда не предсказывала начала Третьей мировой войны и последующий конец света.[11]

Также имя Ванги довольно часто можно встретить в рекламных баннерах мошеннических сайтов, предлагающих за СМС получить предсказание будущего, якобы сделанное самой Вангой.)даже в вике ой есть

[Egen]

"Мы вынуждены это делать. России нужно приготовиться к нескольким сотням тысяч беженцев. Практически все они хотят в Российскую Федерацию."

Т.е. это жители другой страны указывают России че делать? :) Нормально! :) А куда мы их, сотни тысяч, денем? Где столько работы и пособий возьмем? И сейчас уже не все с энтузиазмом воспринимают у себя беженцев (по этому вопросу см. мою статью), а если так? Че-то наше правительство недорабатывает, или чего-то я не понимаю в его социальной политике.
С другой стороны, ИМХО - я хорошо понимаю товарищей в ДНР и ЛНР, я тоже считаю, что "бучу забузили" они, надеясь на помощь России, которая их... самое верное слово - просто не замечает :((

[VALBEL]

Очень медленно идут все эти подковеренные переговоры (консультации)счет идет не на дни, а на человеческие жизни