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Croats do not accept fighters repaired in Ukraine

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Blog bmpd With reference to the Croatian resource “jutarnji.hr” reported that 7 MiG-21 fighters arrived at the Croatian Air Force base after repairs to Ukraine (Odesaviaremservice) SE, but only one military pilots agreed to accept. The test flights revealed numerous flaws: broken radar, non-functioning identification system, fuel flow.

Croats do not accept fighters repaired in Ukraine


Of the seven MiGs who arrived, five had previously belonged to Yemen. Croatia bought them after Yemenis refused to pay Ukraine for poor-quality aircraft repair and those 5 years stood on the site of Odesaviaremservice. Understanding that the fighters are problematic, the Ukrainian specialists in the execution of the transaction significantly reduced the test program, not allowing to check the cars at low altitudes, at low speeds, etc. In general, the whole marriage got out only in Croatia, and MiGs were again sent in for repair.

Ukrainian engineers in Zagreb (and they live there for more than 2 months), in one voice say that the fighters are in perfect condition. Indeed, all devices work normally, but only on the ground. When the planes take to the air, problems appear one after another.

At the insistence of the Croats, they were still agreed to come by the chief factory test pilot along with a new team of specialists. Now they will solve the problems.

But this is only half the battle. Croats, it turns out, sent in repair not seven, but 12 fighters MiG-21. That is, five cars are still at the Odessa plant, and when they are ready, no one can say. And this is despite the fact that the period according to the contract expired on June 30.

The Croatian Defense Ministry has so far refused to pay for repairs and hints to the Ukrainian side penalties for breach of contract. Fines have yet to be calculated, but already today it is clear that the “deal of the century” will not bring Ukraine the expected profit, if anything at all.
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  1. Rubmolot
    Rubmolot 10 July 2014 10: 17
    +9
    Really, Croats want to fly on planes ??!
    1. Giant thought
      Giant thought 10 July 2014 10: 23
      +23
      And then the Ukrainians obos.ralyali!
      1. Yaks
        Yaks 10 July 2014 10: 31
        +9
        Where ukraine with a pig’s snout and to Europe. ..
        1. Denka
          Denka 10 July 2014 10: 41
          +2
          What kind of Europe they are, they crap themselves and they are going to shit Europe with their Nazi values! The maximum that suits them is South Africa and only some tribal state. laughing
          1. alex-s
            alex-s 10 July 2014 10: 50
            +1
            They would still take the PE-2 to repair! laughing
            1. Sergei75
              Sergei75 10 July 2014 11: 09
              +4
              And what is the PE-2 to blame?
            2. avg
              avg 10 July 2014 11: 15
              +17
              Croats, Romanians, rodents, dill. Here is such a won, new high-tech geyropa. But padded jackets fly on their T-50. laughing
        2. Sergei75
          Sergei75 10 July 2014 11: 08
          +4
          Gather everyone who wants to go to Europe in Western Ukraine and let them knock, but Europe does not mind.
        3. WKS
          WKS 10 July 2014 11: 34
          +1
          Test flights revealed numerous flaws: idle radars, non-functioning recognition system, fuel leakage.

          Odessa repairmen apparently thought that these aircraft would bomb Novorossia and did little harm.
      2. Alekseev
        Alekseev 10 July 2014 10: 32
        +22
        Quote: Thought Giant
        And then the Ukrainians obos.ralyali!

        Rather, it was the Croats who fled.
        An order was made for some odd Odessa factory.
        As if there is no manufacturer.
        That's right, some "American stinker" asked them strongly.
        1. Sergei75
          Sergei75 10 July 2014 11: 14
          +1
          Well, to vilify everything in a row is not a great merit, as I understand it - Yemen's "refuseniks" have given 5 planes, the Croats gave 12, got 7 back, and the remaining 10 will still receive, or only five?
          1. military
            military 10 July 2014 15: 11
            0
            Quote: Sergei75
            As far as I understand, Yemen's "refuseniks" planes 5, the Croats gave 12, got 7 back, and the remaining 10 will still receive or only five?

            and the remaining 10 xoxles put on spare parts ... laughing
      3. subbtin.725
        subbtin.725 10 July 2014 10: 35
        +4
        They are undergoing repairs to new European standards, your mother ...
      4. lex loci
        lex loci 10 July 2014 11: 22
        +4
        Nothing like this !!!
        Partisan underground works.
        Not a single repaired plane to the Nazis and their henchmen !!!
        Glory to the underground workers of Odessa !!!
      5. jovanni
        jovanni 10 July 2014 11: 25
        +1
        Ukraine, -ce ... Iuropa! ... Opa! Opa!
      6. Момент
        Момент 10 July 2014 11: 40
        +1
        Once on Earth all devices work fine, so let them become monuments of Ukrainian and Croatian friendship.
        What is attached to Ukraine, she is now not up to you.
      7. Juborg
        Juborg 10 July 2014 11: 46
        +2
        Let’s better go digging a new sea for ourselves, otherwise in the near future we will take away the entire coast from them. It’s better for them to poke around in the ground; what sea is there at the dawn of the universe? laughing
      8. xenod55
        xenod55 10 July 2014 14: 38
        0
        With this formulation of the issue with the repair of equipment, the DNI has a chance to leave dill without aviation.
      9. Silkway0026
        Silkway0026 10 July 2014 16: 26
        +1
        they have everything to deceive, steal ... what can I say, oranges will not be born from aspen!
      10. svp67
        svp67 10 July 2014 19: 06
        +1
        Quote: Thought Giant
        And then the Ukrainians obos.ralyali!

        And here it is interesting ... earlier these planes had to be repaired at a repair plant in the city of Sevastopol ... And this was not the first such order. Apparently in Odessa, the repair base is worse, much worse. Aircraft "jumping" and "screaming" are not repaired ...
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    3. Matroskin 18
      Matroskin 18 10 July 2014 10: 48
      +6
      Croats do not accept fighters repaired in Ukraine

      Ukroarmia repaired itself tanks at the Kharkov plant, 8 of them exploded when fired!
      I’m even afraid to buy Ukrainian sweets ... what if there’s a detonator capsule wrapped there! belay
      1. kotyara
        kotyara 10 July 2014 11: 39
        0
        Fake is about tanks that exploded, there was a link to Strelkov, but he didn’t say anything like that!
      2. Tumbler
        Tumbler 10 July 2014 11: 39
        +2
        Quote: Matroskin 18
        Croats do not accept fighters repaired in Ukraine

        Ukroarmia repaired itself tanks at the Kharkov plant, 8 of them exploded when fired!
        I’m even afraid to buy Ukrainian sweets ... what if there’s a detonator capsule wrapped there! belay


        Personally, I have already refused Ukrainian goods. Why support the economy of an unfriendly country? Start with yourself, buy Russian! We support our economy, do not think that this is all a trifle.
        1. 341712
          341712 10 July 2014 11: 46
          +4
          Butzkin cheese is not bad either. And the Crimean wine, but the Abkhazian finally ... pesTnya !!))))))))))))
          1. Silkway0026
            Silkway0026 10 July 2014 16: 30
            +1
            Belgian cheeses and sausages - just a song! When buying, I always ask, Belarusian is a priority!
        2. Sergei75
          Sergei75 10 July 2014 12: 03
          +3
          I bought sprats and bacon - I helped the SS veteran!
      3. Sergei75
        Sergei75 10 July 2014 12: 02
        0
        Well, the tanks that exploded are the result of our good work. For this situation, the plan for such tanks must be exceeded.
    4. GSH-18
      GSH-18 10 July 2014 11: 10
      +2
      Quote: "The fines have yet to be calculated, but it is already clear today that the" deal of the century "will not bring Ukraine the expected profit, if anything brings."
      ================================================== ==============
      Of course it will! Penalties for non-fulfillment of contractual obligations and the fall of the image below the baseboard! lol
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  2. Yellow white
    Yellow white 10 July 2014 10: 17
    +5
    NOT, they will not receive the Croats technique, they feel my heart, they will not receive, scrap metal and that's it ..
  3. Cossack Ermak
    Cossack Ermak 10 July 2014 10: 18
    +3
    Strangle them economically. However, they themselves do it perfectly)))
  4. alexandr-budarin1
    alexandr-budarin1 10 July 2014 10: 18
    +2
    Yes! And I would be afraid too! And then they have already repaired the tanks!
  5. Vik.Tor
    Vik.Tor 10 July 2014 10: 18
    +3
    Yes, the success of ukrooboronki and rod. The largest damn exporter of weapons. Laughter and more.
    1. yur58
      yur58 10 July 2014 10: 33
      +3
      Weapons that were inherited from the USSR are not of the latest times.
  6. Gypsy girl
    Gypsy girl 10 July 2014 10: 20
    +2
    And right! good
  7. papont64
    papont64 10 July 2014 10: 20
    +2
    Why torture scrap metal, it’s high time for them to be re-melted.
  8. Gomunkul
    Gomunkul 10 July 2014 10: 20
    +10
    Ukrainian engineers in Zagreb (and they live there for more than 2 months), in one voice say that the fighters are in perfect condition. Indeed, all devices work normally, but only on the ground. When the planes take to the air, problems appear one after another.
    One gets the impression that soon these machines will go into service with the Ukrainian army.
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 10 July 2014 10: 24
      +3
      Quote: Gomunkul
      Ukrainian engineers in Zagreb (and they live there for more than 2 months), in one voice say that the fighters are in perfect condition. Indeed, all devices work normally, but only on the ground. When the planes take to the air, problems appear one after another.
      One gets the impression that soon these machines will go into service with the Ukrainian army.


      Do you want to say for disposal in the Ukrainian army?
    2. alexandr-budarin1
      alexandr-budarin1 10 July 2014 10: 25
      +2
      Yes, how the armored personnel carriers have been abandoned! They are now on the "Southern Front"
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    4. alex-s
      alex-s 10 July 2014 10: 53
      0
      And indeed, all devices work fine, but only on the ground.

      They made a campaign from MiGs of armored personnel carriers! laughing
    5. lex loci
      lex loci 10 July 2014 11: 26
      +2
      And the engineers are great !!!
      More than 2 months on a freebie, but for a European salary, but at a resort in Croatia ...
      you need to be able to work this way so that you don’t do anything, and you don’t have anything but a salary for it ...
  9. Yellow white
    Yellow white 10 July 2014 10: 21
    +1
    Although it’s not hell to sell them anything at all, the emblem hurts their eyes, they immediately recall their atrocities in Voronezh, p.a.s.k.u.d.y.
    1. Dangerous
      Dangerous 10 July 2014 10: 48
      0
      And what happened in Voronezh?
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  10. Dazdranagon
    Dazdranagon 10 July 2014 10: 21
    +6
    Let the Croats decide - either the plane flies, or devices work on it! laughing
  11. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 10 July 2014 10: 24
    +11
    Somehow like this...

    But seriously:
    The first MiG-21 appeared at the Croatian Air Force when in October 1991 one MiG-21Р was hijacked to Austria, and later three more MiG-21МФ flew to the Pleso and Zagreb airports.

    former Mi-21MF JUNA Croatian Air Force
    It was decided to make the MiG-21 the main aircraft: fortunately, all the pilots mastered it very well, and besides, on the European market this aircraft cost a little more than a used car (the "Soviet" republics and East Germany were actively getting rid of the fleet of these outdated fighters). As a result, by 2001, the fleet includes about 30 aircraft of various modifications. During the fighting, the Serbs shot down 4 Croatian MiG-21s.
    Under the terms of the agreement, Ukrspetsexport is to carry out repairs and modernization of 7 MiG-21 aircraft owned by the Air Force of the Republic of Croatia. In addition, the Ministry of Defense of Croatia acquires 5 repaired MiG-21, which are the property of Odesaviaremservis SE. At the 1 of January 2014 of the year, the Croatian Air Force had only three MiG-21 aircraft capable of flying and fulfilling the tasks of protecting the country's airspace. That is, with the repaired, the Croats will have 15 MiG-21.

    The Air Force of the main enemy of Croatia, Serbia, currently has 3 MiG-29 and 1 MiG-29UB, repaired by RSK MiG in 2009-2011. (5 repaired in total, but one car was lost in an accident). The Serbian Air Force also has 28 fighters of two modifications - 21 MiG-21bis (L-17, including two converted into a reconnaissance version equipped with Vinten 880 and 753A cameras) and seven two-seat MiG-21UM (NL-16Sh). But in fact, most of them have exhausted their resource, while others do not fly due to the lack of spare parts, the rest are simply declared redundant for the existing tasks. Attack aviation consists of 18 Yugoslav attack aircraft SOKO Ј-22 Orao (2-UBS NЈ-22) and 31 UBS SOKO G-4 Super Galeb, used as light attack aircraft. Also, most likely, the Croatian Air Force at the given time cannot compete with the Serbian ...
  12. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 10 July 2014 10: 26
    +10
    When they work, they need to jump!
  13. Caa
    Caa 10 July 2014 10: 27
    +3
    Even to military orders ukrov SUCH attitude. What to say about conventional production. And they are supposedly exporting something else to the EU. They merge the country into the open, and the fools on the Maidan rejoice.
    By the way, over the Donbass these twigs have not yet been seen?
  14. Roshchin
    Roshchin 10 July 2014 10: 27
    +14
    Croatians got stuck in their Europe. Just think the fuel is leaking or the altimeter does not show altitude. And what about the eyes? A good pilot feels height with his butt. Or do the techies have no hands to cover up the leak? And the fact that only 12 out of 7 were "repaired" so it should be understood that cheerful Odessa citizens made 12 out of 7, and the remaining 5 went to spare parts. Apparently the transfer of the aircraft took place on April 1 And the customer's complaints indicate a complete lack of humor in the latter.
  15. Turbo rabbit
    Turbo rabbit 10 July 2014 10: 28
    +5
    The reception program in general will soon be reduced in Ukraine to "gas-taxi-taxi-approach-take". Croats! Remember! Protoukry launched man into space long before Gagarin. They are not interested in your old stuff.
  16. michurinec
    michurinec 10 July 2014 10: 31
    +9
    When airplanes take off, problems appear one after another.

    As an engineer, I’ll say the most unpleasant and difficult to diagnose malfunction. It will be cheaper to buy new equipment.
  17. fktrcfylhn61
    fktrcfylhn61 10 July 2014 10: 31
    +3
    Khokhlyat breed, plus the greed of the oligarchs, the components of the real situation in Ukraine! Hence, everything that follows, in the literal sense!
    1. meriem1
      meriem1 10 July 2014 10: 42
      +1
      So the rumor says. Where Crest passed, there Judea do nefig ....
  18. 1-Patriot
    1-Patriot 10 July 2014 10: 36
    +3
    Take the New Yak-130 !!!
  19. zheka
    zheka 10 July 2014 10: 36
    +9
    I understand Croatians) I would also not dare to fly on a plane that went through maintenance in Ukraine) There are more spare parts ... t than replace it)
  20. CONTROL
    CONTROL 10 July 2014 10: 37
    +12
    z.a.s.r.a.s.ts.y!
    Ukraine’s main economic (natural) resource is to lie, steal, shit, bite and tick ... after eating and drinking hard!

    "tsytata" (from the site politonline): ... And China cut the entrance for Ukrainian women, Ukraine will not squeak about this anyway. Because Ukraine has no time for that.
    And the citizens of Ukraine - very much even. Thanks to them, by the way, any blonde is considered to be easily accessible, arguing that "Well, all the Russians - from where you can get them - even from Vinnitsa, even from Lvov, even from Odessa - are easily accessible." Will you explain to everyone? The answer is clear.
    This is the only international brand of Ukraine. Such a stable one. Third size. And the rest - do not care.
    Do you understand that now Ukraine is raw materials and girls? ...
    1. Vik.Tor
      Vik.Tor 10 July 2014 10: 42
      0
      Yeah, something between a cockroach and a rat.
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 10 July 2014 10: 46
      +3
      Quote: CONTROL
      Ukraine’s main economic (natural) resource is to lie, steal, shit, bite and tick ... after eating and drinking hard!

      Apparently it even reached the IMF! They refused to give the second tranche until the commission figure out what happened to the economy and where the money from the first tranche went. Poor Yaytsenyuk could not answer a simple question - "How much money does Ukraine have." And this is in conditions that have already increased the price of gas, electricity, water, food for the population.
      So - what repair is there? nothing to repair. Everything has long been stolen!
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  22. kowalski
    kowalski 10 July 2014 10: 41
    +3
    Let them rejoice that they did not explode!
  23. kostik1301
    kostik1301 10 July 2014 10: 44
    +2
    Dill even the Chinese surpassed in quality ..............
  24. evilrussian
    evilrussian 10 July 2014 10: 46
    +1
    After repairs in Ukraine, even a cart is not a hunt to go. And then here you fighter!
  25. Gomunkul
    Gomunkul 10 July 2014 10: 52
    +5
    The Croatian Defense Ministry has so far refused to pay for repairs and hints to the Ukrainian side penalties for breach of contract. Fines have yet to be calculated, but already today it is clear that the “deal of the century” will not bring Ukraine the expected profit, if anything at all.
    Croats are reappearing, take the planes until they give them away, otherwise you won’t receive any planes or see any fines! An example for you: the supply of Russian gas to Ukraine in 2014 does not teach anything. laughing
    1. izGOI
      izGOI 10 July 2014 14: 11
      0
      Croats do not show up! It is in a dispute with Russia that arbitration may take the Ukrainian side, and even then,
      and in a dispute with a European country, the result is known in advance. Remember how Ukraine was looking for justice over the Snake Island, most recently it was. And now even more so, the desire to enter Europe is such that Ukraine agrees in advance to any conditions
  26. Andrew K
    Andrew K 10 July 2014 11: 19
    +1
    Apparently the normal mechanical engineers were completely exhausted from dill, since everything is so sad.
  27. kozkna
    kozkna 10 July 2014 11: 24
    +1
    The degradation of Ukraine cannot even be repaired ...
  28. vlad-ns
    vlad-ns 10 July 2014 11: 34
    +1
    Hmm ... All Ukrainians have "not thank God."
  29. kotyara
    kotyara 10 July 2014 11: 40
    +1
    They liked them in Zagreb and they are in no hurry to go home!
  30. Vend
    Vend 10 July 2014 11: 52
    +1
    Well, as you can see, Ukraine is not the only one with an inadequate attitude towards Russia. So Croatia is raking in, who is next in line? EU countries, USA? Do not crowd, spitting at all is enough. Swing to dry.
  31. Appius
    Appius 10 July 2014 12: 05
    0
    They are trying to deceive everyone, it seems that there was no repair there. Which accepted, such and surrendered to the Croats.
  32. Cristall
    Cristall 10 July 2014 12: 11
    +1
    before driving to the inhabitants of Odessa - I want, firstly, the Croatian military evidence of shortcomings (climbed onto the resource only on the subject of S.eks and Zeze rejoiced, that's such a resource)
    Secondly, no one officially said anything.
    Thirdly, all refer only to this resource, neither the Ukrainians and the military of Croatia nor gu gu ..
    Until there is official information, everything will be declared insufficient to drive Ukrainians and Odessans.
    Especially "zanyuhanny little factory" For your information, it is in Anatra's place! And be so kind as to read what it is on the Internet!
    Comrade comrades ... you already do not look like yourself!
  33. wladimir
    wladimir 10 July 2014 12: 13
    +1
    Class! And here they were scolded before future European partners.
  34. Sergei 57
    Sergei 57 10 July 2014 12: 13
    +1
    Most importantly, you pay money for repairs, but you will fall later.
  35. DPZ
    DPZ 10 July 2014 12: 24
    +1
    once they are engaged in Croatian aircraft, ATO outside the window! everywhere the crooks will snatch
  36. Kakaktus
    Kakaktus 10 July 2014 12: 26
    +1
    Yes, there is no fuel flowing, and Ukraine is merging laughing
  37. zheka
    zheka 10 July 2014 12: 27
    +1
    I think UFO does not happen ... All these plates are the work of Ukraine)
  38. Sochi
    Sochi 10 July 2014 12: 27
    +1
    the next 3,14 transaction of the century of Ukraine ... either with the armor of Chergov’s overpower, then with the super tanks Bulat and strongholds, now with planes. Comrades are on the right track, a little more and everyone will be shut up in the backyards and all contracts will be theirs.
  39. Sergey S.
    Sergey S. 10 July 2014 12: 55
    +2
    Quote: Thought Giant
    And then the Ukrainians obos.ralyali!

    This is a retribution for breaking the umbilical cord with Russia, the rejection of the Russian language, our system of technical documentation, the development of education according to the Western model and, in general, for all their coddles and maidans.
    The Croats missed, they would have to turn to Russia right now. when our defenders torment our receivers ...
  40. papa-billy
    papa-billy 10 July 2014 12: 57
    +1
    There’s nobody to work. All on the Maidan
  41. flSergius
    flSergius 10 July 2014 13: 13
    +1
    Jen Psaki:
    - Croats simply do not know how to properly operate aircraft. They fly in too "tough" regimes, which do not yet correspond to the young Ukrainian democracy. This does not fit the spirit of relationships in the 21st century.
  42. sever.56
    sever.56 10 July 2014 13: 13
    +2
    The Croats did not take into account, returning for repair equipment that there is such a national Ukrainian fun - to steal! Probably half ZiPa successfully stolen and sold. wassat
  43. olegkrava
    olegkrava 10 July 2014 13: 39
    +1
    Quote: Giant thought
    And then the Ukrainians obos.ralyali!

    We must write, once again.
  44. izGOI
    izGOI 10 July 2014 13: 57
    0
    Yes, the main joke in the article is not about "ukroremont", about him, and so everyone understands. And here is what a European country flies on the MiG-21. I do not want and have no right to speak badly about "21", but everything has its time. MiG-21 fought a lot and well in the Vietnam War. It is possible that it is good for Zanzibar or Vanuatu, but ... a European country, in the 21st century ... on MiG-21 .. !!!! Wonderful are the works of the Lord!
  45. Kulneff2009
    Kulneff2009 10 July 2014 14: 54
    0
    Ukram should not work !!!!!!!!!!! They are proud. Pride does not allow them to work!
  46. mamont5
    mamont5 10 July 2014 15: 00
    0
    “The Croats, it turns out, sent not seven, but 12 MiG-21 fighters for repair. That is, five aircraft are still at the Odessa plant, and no one can say when they will be ready.”

    And Ukrainians, by chance, did not use these planes in the Donbass, otherwise it will become with them. They themselves have nothing to fly on.
  47. GHOST29RUS
    GHOST29RUS 10 July 2014 15: 48
    0
    I wouldn’t buy anything from krivoruky ukrofashists myself, let them use this shit
  48. dosyl
    dosyl 10 July 2014 16: 14
    0
    Great damn great.
  49. Leshka
    Leshka 10 July 2014 18: 02
    0
    I won’t be surprised if Ukrainians stole something else from them laughing